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NBL ROUND TWO

Mr Flamboyant
09-25-2006, 01:44 PM
Tomorrow night's total of 205.5 could be a little low considering some of the marksmen on show for both New Zealand and the South Dragons.

The Breakers boast Brian Wethers and Carlos Powell in what is a pretty potent import pairing. Meantime the Dragons are pretty loaded with offense-geared players in Shane Heal, Kavossy Franklin and Todd Fuller.

Infact looking across the Dragons' list it's hard to pinpoint where too much 'D' is going to come from! Matt Burston maybe?!

It's hard to see either team finishing this match with less than a hundred beside their name.

bad gambler
09-25-2006, 01:47 PM
Already on it Flambo, play of the day IMO. Just too many question marks for me about this Dragons team earlier in the season. Unlike the Slingers, Dragons don't have any pre existing combinations to work with apart from Kavossy and Hammer but they only played with each other nearly 3 years ago now.

I wouldn't expect much from Burston at this stage as yet, coming back from a long term injury...

OVERS 205.5 Breakers v Dragons - $1.90

good luck

Mr Flamboyant
09-25-2006, 02:00 PM
Yep, here's hoping my mob set a similar line tomorrow ..

Mr Flamboyant
09-26-2006, 06:12 AM
Yep, here's hoping my mob set a similar line tomorrow ..

204.5 .. :boxing:

dave nz
09-26-2006, 06:15 AM
YTD 1-1 -0.25


One tonight :


South Dragons +3.5 over NZ Breakers-----------1 unit







gl

dave

SwiSha
09-26-2006, 08:04 AM
okay game on lets do this

SwiSha
09-26-2006, 09:04 AM
55-47 HT ..can t be any closer for the over

Mr Flamboyant
09-26-2006, 09:04 AM
Need a BIG third quarter from both teams ..

SwiSha
09-26-2006, 09:05 AM
53 first
49 second quarter points

SwiSha
09-26-2006, 10:09 AM
OVERS HITS YEAHH BABY

Mr Flamboyant
09-26-2006, 10:20 AM
Breakers win 111-106

Looked pretty shakey at halftime (47-55) but second half turned into a track meet .. Good work overs backers ..:yeah:

bad gambler
09-26-2006, 10:20 AM
FT:Breakers 111-106

NBL site is a fucking joke, been a disgrace for years now. They can't even get a final score correct.

Mr Flamboyant
09-26-2006, 10:24 AM
betandwin.com had a great livescore going ..

bad gambler
09-26-2006, 10:28 AM
betandwin.com had a great livescore going ..


lol the point is the official website for the NBL can't even provide people (i.e. those who want to follow outside Australia, even in Australia for that matter) with real time scores :shrug:

Mr Flamboyant
09-26-2006, 10:39 AM
lol the point is the official website for the NBL can't even provide people (i.e. those who want to follow outside Australia, even in Australia for that matter) with real time scores :shrug:

I hate to be cynic but it's par for the course given that we are talking about the NBL .. :lol:

Mr Flamboyant
09-26-2006, 12:53 PM
Centrebet's posted a line of 191.5 for Singapore v Perth .. If my book goes any higher than than I'm on. Think the Wildcats have a slight edge in this game via their defense.

These guys combined for 178 on the weekend and I can see this one being a similar sort of 90something - 80something outcome either way.

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 01:51 AM
I prefer the side in that one Flambo, hitting this one hard as well...


Wildcats to cover -2.5 v Slingers - $1.90


*Wildcats squad spent two weeks in Singapore as part of a training camp in preseason therfore familiar with the conditions.
*Both played last Friday with Wildcats winning by 10+ as a 10 point favourite.
*The long distance travelling is foreign to the Slingers players given essentially they are a product of the now wound up Hunter Pirates team that was based in the East coast of Australia last season, therefore recovery time advantage to the Cats give they are used to the long hauls by virtue of living on the other side of Australia.

good luck

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 04:57 AM
I prefer the side in that one Flambo, hitting this one hard as well...


Wildcats to cover -2.5 v Slingers - $1.90


*Wildcats squad spent two weeks in Singapore as part of a training camp in preseason therfore familiar with the conditions.
*Both played last Friday with Wildcats winning by 10+ as a 10 point favourite.
*The long distance travelling is foreign to the Slingers players given essentially they are a product of the now wound up Hunter Pirates team that was based in the East coast of Australia last season, therefore recovery time advantage to the Cats give they are used to the long hauls by virtue of living on the other side of Australia.

good luck

They've also taken a couple of home games to Singapore in the last season or two which will have them all the more familiar with the gym .. I do also like the visitors in this one .. Think their front court trio (Rogers, Redhage & Ronaldson) stands them in good stead tonight.

Having gone 3-0 so far just on totals, I think it's time to fade that play and take a side!

Also like Adelaide to cover the -2.5 against the Kings .. Horvath has slotted in nicely to their group and gives them some meaningful inside presence at last. Brett Maher also gave us a reminder of his worth in Wollongong on Sunday. Reckon the Kings might be a few games away from hitting their straps yet. Home court advantage has always been big for Adelaide.

andrew057
09-27-2006, 09:10 AM
With you guys.

Kings x Wildcats

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 09:17 AM
Interesting piece of trivia .. Last time Wildcats won a round two road game was 1998 .. I guess long standing records like that are just begging to be broken.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 09:41 AM
Going with both unders tonight.

Perth V Singapore - Under 191.0

Last week these two fought out a low scoring game. In the 170's I think? As BG said, the travel factor for the Slingers will be huge at this point in time this early in the season and I can't see them scoring over 85.

Adelaide V Sydney - Under 203.0

Feel this total is a little high. Last year I would have said this total was an easy over, however so far this year Adelaide's offence hasn't looked too good. 91 against the Slingers and 89 against the Hawks. Sydney have scored over 100 each time they have played but this is Adelaide they're playing and I feel this will be about a 190 - 195 point game. Both teams scores will finish in the 90's, I'm thinking something like Adelaide 96 - Sydney 94

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 09:50 AM
Going with both unders tonight.

Perth V Singapore - Under 191.0

Last week these two fought out a low scoring game. In the 170's I think? As BG said, the travel factor for the Slingers will be huge at this point in time this early in the season and I can't see them scoring over 85.


Yeah .. Can't bring myself to lay anything on the Wildcats on the road. I liked unders (I've got 192.5) in this game as soon as I saw the total and that's the way I'm going too .. Just can't see this game getting out of hand .. Perth is tough defensively and won't look to engage in an up tempo shoot out with Singapore because it's advantage is inside the paint.

The Slingers just flat-out don't scare anyone offensively and apart from Mike Helms (and Aaron Trahair) they're a group of grafters.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 09:57 AM
Yeah .. Can't bring myself to lay anything on the Wildcats on the road. I liked unders (I've got 192.5) in this game as soon as I saw the total and that's the way I'm going too .. Just can't see this game getting out of hand .. Perth is tough defensively and won't look to engage in an up tempo shoot out with Singapore because it's advantage is inside the paint.

The Slingers just flat-out don't scare anyone offensively and apart from Mike Helms (and Aaron Trahair) they're a group of grafters.

Yep - exactly right.

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 10:05 AM
Like that under in Adelaide as Bolar - still pondering what the play is in the early game

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 10:07 AM
Just took the bait...

UNDERS 203.5 36ers v Kings - $1.90

good luck

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 10:10 AM
Like that under in Adelaide as Bolar - still pondering what the play is in the early game
That number is a bit of a blast from the past .. Adelaide hasn't hit top gear offensively yet and Sydney is sure to want to invade the personal space of messers Horvath and Farley (even though the latter has been a little off so far)

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 10:12 AM
That number is a bit of a blast from the past .. Adelaide hasn't hit top gear offensively yet and Sydney is sure to want to invade the personal space of messers Horvath and Farley (even though the latter has been a little off so far)


Horvath on the defensive end has really stiffened the 36ers up IMO, agree that the line is based purely on last season. Kings still IMO haven't really found their feet combination wise.

Ellitot has been impressive thus far those on offense, especiialy given he isn't fully conditioned yet. I lean on the 36ers for the win tonight, but not confident enough to make a play on it.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 10:31 AM
Most points line

Elliot -0.5 over Farley

Elliot has averaged about 20 points a game whereas Farley has been averaging about 14.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 10:55 AM
Wasn't a good start for us unders betters to start the game but the scoring has seemed to have slowed somewhat near the end of the first.

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 11:16 AM
there goes the under, wortho has gone ballistic :lol:

dave nz
09-27-2006, 11:31 AM
Watching this one.....the raw player in Ng is no longer, this guy looks to have developed his game well.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 11:45 AM
I should have gone. Looks a good game.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 11:54 AM
This is what I'm talking about.

Keep it up ya bastards

dave nz
09-27-2006, 11:54 AM
For the large part they have put the whistles away, good stuff hopefully a sign of things to come for the season.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 12:07 PM
The unders is definately shot.

My Elliot more points than Farley will get up.

Hopefully the later game goes under and it will be a good night.

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 12:11 PM
C'mon sixers, cover for the tipping comp!

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 12:13 PM
You unders backers .. it might just tighten now it's close .. still needs 33 points in nine mins ..

SadrieL
09-27-2006, 12:14 PM
All those games in a short amount of time have caught up with the Kings.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 12:16 PM
Spoke too soon with Farley.

The bastard is starting to score.

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 12:16 PM
Sixers are flying home .. 35-19 since the long break ..

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 12:17 PM
I think the Kings have stalled though ..

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 12:19 PM
Elliot has such a sweet shot from long range

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 12:24 PM
Another Elliot 3 and it's all tied up at 100

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 12:26 PM
Wortho fouled out

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 12:34 PM
Overtime .. what the heck happened in that last 17 seconds ??!! (only following this on live scores)

SadrieL
09-27-2006, 12:34 PM
What a huge choke from the 36ers. Two stupid turnovers and now OT.

Bolar Bolabi
09-27-2006, 12:35 PM
Damn I wish I had went to this game

bossboss
09-27-2006, 12:35 PM
omg OT

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 12:36 PM
Maher :haha:

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 12:45 PM
Great effort by the Kings ..:hatoff:

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 12:47 PM
EJ in OT :sport:

dave nz
09-27-2006, 12:49 PM
Kings baby :)

Crosswhite was limping and didn't look happy, interesting to see how long he will be out (If at all).

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 01:30 PM
The tyranny of distance brings the stone-age NBL undone again as their livescore shits itself for the Singapore game..!

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 01:40 PM
this one will go over as well

43-34 Cats 8 Min 2nd quarter

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 01:42 PM
Damn .. gotta go online with this stuff .. overtime game and Terri Irwin interview kept me from getting putting my money where my mouth was (unders) for the late game

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 01:50 PM
Cats up y 19 60-41

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 01:53 PM
Cats up y 19 60-41

SHIT-OH-DEAR! what's the timepiece say .. ?

dave nz
09-27-2006, 01:56 PM
I don't want to step on anyones toes here but.....

Historically in the NBL I'm talking the last 10 years especially if u had backed all overs, u would be far better off than if u had backed all unders. In fact the last few seasons overs backers have made a killing.

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 02:02 PM
The tyranny of distance brings the stone-age NBL undone again as their livescore shits itself for the Singapore game..!
64-53 .. Looks like the tyranny of distance (between me and the nearest Tab) has also saved me some money .. :eek:

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 02:04 PM
Just been checking out the Slingers website .. the lads have been pretty proactive in the Singapore community .. lots of school visits ..

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 02:14 PM
I don't want to step on anyones toes here but.....

Historically in the NBL I'm talking the last 10 years especially if u had backed all overs, u would be far better off than if u had backed all unders. In fact the last few seasons overs backers have made a killing.
Am not surprised by that .. Think it's a matter of picking your poison .. certain matchups and situations lend themselves to unders and others to overs ..

Personally it's been a matter of jumping on early while the books are warming to their task .. Don't think the NBL is the sharpest capped of all the sports ..

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 02:15 PM
66-53 Cats HT

dave nz
09-27-2006, 02:20 PM
Personally it's been a matter of jumping on early while the books are warming to their task .. Don't think the NBL is the sharpest capped of all the sports ..


You just need to compare Australiasian sports bookmakers to say those who instigate the lines for the US big pro 4 sports. Its like comparing chalk to cheese.....

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 02:21 PM
67-55 10 min 3rd Q

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 02:34 PM
You just need to compare Australiasian sports bookmakers to say those who instigate the lines for the US big pro 4 sports. Its like comparing chalk to cheese.....
Would you agree that certain sports do sail under the radar a bit .. ? It seems the lower profile competitions / leagues are far easier to find good bets ..

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 02:37 PM
88-82 Cats

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 02:43 PM
what was the overs for this game
90-82 3rd Q time

dave nz
09-27-2006, 02:43 PM
Would you agree that certain sports do sail under the radar a bit .. ? It seems the lower profile competitions / leagues are far easier to find good bets ..


Yes this can be true. Just quietly too the lower profile sports certain bookmakers can sometimes get start times wrong or make errors. One of numerous examples I could give : A certain bookmaker (who I won't name) had golf 2 ball betting open with the players already on the back nine they had it wrong by 2 had a half hours.

Sometimes I will alert them of the error if they have been good to me, but since this particular book had screwed me over with something previous where they were totally in the wrong.....I didn't say anything.

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 02:51 PM
Yes this can be true. Just quietly too the lower profile sports certain bookmakers can sometimes get start times wrong or make errors. One of numerous examples I could give : A certain bookmaker (who I won't name) had golf 2 ball betting open with the players already on the back nine they had it wrong by 2 had a half hours.

Sometimes I will alert them of the error if they have been good to me, but since this particular book had screwed me over with something previous where they were totally in the wrong.....I didn't say anything.
:eek: Did you capitalise on it..? :devil:

good_gambler
09-27-2006, 02:51 PM
I can't believe this Kings side. :lol:

They just keep bringing it.
:shout: Die already.

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 02:54 PM
I can't believe this Kings side. :lol:

They just keep bringing it.
:shout: Die already.
You'd better start by killing their coach! :armed:

dave nz
09-27-2006, 02:55 PM
:eek: Did you capitalise on it..? :devil:


lol Yes which is why I won't be naming them ;)

dave nz
09-27-2006, 02:57 PM
You'd better start by killing their coach! :armed:

I'm still not sold they are a genuine title contender this season.

dave nz
09-27-2006, 02:58 PM
105-97 Perth 3.00 to play.....

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 03:01 PM
Getting back to the point regarding lesser profile stuff though .. and this is certainly no disrespect to your NPC competition (especially not from an Australian at present!) but you and Anders have had a field day on that so far .. I can't imagine anyone maintaining a strike rate of 75% (at least?) in say NRL or NBA ect on ATS plays, which is what you blokes bet 99% of the time ..

SwiSha
09-27-2006, 03:06 PM
CATS WIN 109-100

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 03:06 PM
FT: Perth 109-100 .. got the Cats cover for tipping ..

dave nz
09-27-2006, 03:12 PM
FT: Perth 109-100 .. got the Cats cover for tipping ..


You swine making it hard for me to gain on you :mad: J/K!!

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 03:15 PM
You swine making it hard for me to gain on you :mad: J/K!!
:nerner: .. lol don't worry, we've gone like five metres into a marathon!

dave nz
09-27-2006, 03:17 PM
Getting back to the point regarding lesser profile stuff though .. and this is certainly no disrespect to your NPC competition (especially not from an Australian at present!) but you and Anders have had a field day on that so far .. I can't imagine anyone maintaining a strike rate of 75% (at least?) in say NRL or NBA ect on ATS plays, which is what you blokes bet 99% of the time ..


Yeah in the NBA/NFL that is near on impossible long term IMO.
But I think Anders would agree with me here even hitting at 75% on the ANZ Cup long term would be very tough. We may have done that or close to that so far, but as I say 75% is abit of a stretch. 65% long term on any sport is outstanding. What u can do to work in your favour is have great discipline, money management and shop around for the best lines and all of a sudden hitting at a lower % can still be profitable.

bad gambler
09-27-2006, 03:18 PM
good job all

Mr Flamboyant
09-27-2006, 03:30 PM
You're right about discipline .. It's definitely a must to have certain rules and stick to them .. One thing I've learnt watching certain guys here (including yourself) is to get a feel for when to fade teams .. A few guys have really nailed this during NRL and AFL finals ..

dave nz
09-27-2006, 03:50 PM
You're right about discipline .. It's definitely a must to have certain rules and stick to them .. One thing I've learnt watching certain guys here (including yourself) is to get a feel for when to fade teams .. A few guys have really nailed this during NRL and AFL finals ..


Yeah u need capping methods that work well for you, they can vary from sport to sport. Never think u are the best, always be willing to pick up and learn things. Don't ever get too cocky with sports betting, because no matter how good you are a losing streak can strike at any time. You really do need to have an even keel on your emotions eg. Not get over hyped on a win or too low on a loss.

good_gambler
09-28-2006, 04:21 AM
Yes this can be true. Just quietly too the lower profile sports certain bookmakers can sometimes get start times wrong or make errors. One of numerous examples I could give : A certain bookmaker (who I won't name) had golf 2 ball betting open with the players already on the back nine they had it wrong by 2 had a half hours.

Sometimes I will alert them of the error if they have been good to me, but since this particular book had screwed me over with something previous where they were totally in the wrong.....I didn't say anything.
:haha:
That is classic stuff! :o

I remember once my only book (so I'm sure you could figure it out) left a Myskina match open for a couple extra minutes. :lol: That is the only one like that I've known about.

You'd better start by killing their coach! :armed:
I have to admit, I really don't like the guy, but he must be doing something right. :(

I'm still not sold they are a genuine title contender this season.
I'm not sold either but they have beat 2 genuine contenders in their first three games. Bullets and 36ers... 36ers at home - possibly the 2nd toughest trip in the competition.

Hopefully they fall in a shit heap now. :devil:

bad gambler
09-28-2006, 04:22 AM
The Kings' imports have looked promising though, but early stages in the season so really hard to get a gauge of where they are at both as individuals and how they are fitting into Goorj's system.

Can't question the talent that still remains on the roster though...

good_gambler
09-28-2006, 05:08 PM
BG did you get my Friday tips?

I din't get a message receipt thing so I don't know if they sent?...:unsure:

I thought it may have something to do with the new set up though. :scared:

bad gambler
09-29-2006, 12:46 AM
BG did you get my Friday tips?



I got it :cool:

bad gambler
09-29-2006, 03:17 AM
Couple for Friday...


Dragons to cover +10.5 v Kings - $1.90

&

UNDERS 198.5 Pussies v 36ers - $1.90


good luck

Mr Flamboyant
09-29-2006, 04:26 AM
Tricky trio of matches .. Notice elsewhere there's been some interest in unders for the Taipans - Hawks game .. One to avoid IMO .. These two can be hot and cold (very cold in the Hawks case) from the floor .. who knows whether the shots will drop for one or both tonight ..? In that last season alone I've seen these guys engage in a grind that had no more than 160 points scored, then their most recent meeting in Cairns had something like 230 ..I'd lean on Cairns to cover the -5.5 but Brendan Joyce will have the Hawks pretty geared up for this after their loss at home. Cairns should win this straight up though.

Like both Bad Gambler's plays .. the +10 for Souths because it's being played at a neutral venue and the under in the Perth - Sixers game for the fatigue factor ..

Mr Flamboyant
09-29-2006, 09:08 AM
Hmmmm .. at this stage it's either unders in Perth or the Wildcats x Taipans
($2.10) for me .. logic gives the unders play a little more strength given the sixers and hawks both have good recent records in Perth and Cairns ..

Mr Flamboyant
09-29-2006, 11:10 AM
Hmmmm .. at this stage it's either unders in Perth or the Wildcats x Taipans
($2.10) for me .. logic gives the unders play a little more strength given the sixers and hawks both have good recent records in Perth and Cairns ..
Unders in the late game it is..

Mr Flamboyant
09-29-2006, 11:34 AM
Worst suspicions confirmed for now at least re Martin Cattalini carrying the Taipans 'O' this season .. down 47-59 2nd term .. Cat has 21 of those ..

Hawks have nine fouls for the term (still 3mins left) .. Snakes gotta use their smarts and get to the line ..!

Mr Flamboyant
09-29-2006, 01:02 PM
Crazy finish in Cairns .. Saville slips on the halfway line with scores tied and seven seconds left, Darnell Mee scoops up the dregs drives the lane and dishes off to Cattalini for the game winner .. 103-101 .. If only they'd F&CKING COVERED THOUGH!!

Mr Flamboyant
09-29-2006, 01:35 PM
Unders in the late game it is..

Or isn't .. damn family functions!! Bet it hits now!

bad gambler
09-29-2006, 02:11 PM
Couple for Friday...


Dragons to cover +10.5 v Kings - $1.90

&

UNDERS 198.5 Pussies v 36ers - $1.90


good luck

Not a good night with the Aussie hoops, Robins hitting a meaningless 3 right on the buzzer to go over in Perth sums it up :banghead:

good_gambler
09-29-2006, 04:12 PM
Fucking WOW!!

Glad I didn't bet on any of these games.
I only have 2 or 3 teams I usually bet on anyway.

Great win for Cairns. Cattalini 39 points. He may crack 50 this season if he keeps going that way. :scared:

And Sydney again. :rolleyes:
Lose a fucking match DAMMIT. :(

Mr Flamboyant
09-30-2006, 01:25 AM
Not a good night with the Aussie hoops, Robins hitting a meaningless 3 right on the buzzer to go over in Perth sums it up :banghead:

No f&cking way!? Of all people! Brad Robbins couldn't shoot the ball into the ocean let alone the basket during his season in Cairns ..