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Slammin' At the Siebel Open to take first title of 2004!!!!!

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Deboogle!.
02-07-2004, 11:28 PM
Hope this title is acceptable to all ;)

Andy opens against Christophe Rochus on Wed. night.

Seeded to meet James in QF, Taylor in SF (but Robby is in that quarter as a WC seeded 5), Andre in final. Should be a relatively easy road for him, assuming he keeps up his level of play. The other half seems to me to be a good deal tougher.

Singles draw at http://www.siebelopen.com/siebelopen/draws_results/

I wouldn't be too shocked to see Andy do dubs with either James or Mardy. Will post that info when they release it :)

Jace, what days are you going you lucky bum you?

MisterQ
02-08-2004, 12:13 AM
Ooooooo, a tantalizing final awaits if the seeds make it through... ;)

MisterQ
02-08-2004, 12:14 AM
Your title is good, bunk, despite the poor diction. :)

Deboogle!.
02-08-2004, 01:16 AM
well :nerner: to you and yes, a tantalizing final would await, and really... they should both make it to the final lol

Actually several tantalizing finals could possibly await - since they're playing a very similar schedule all the way through April - Siebel Open, Scottsdale, and Houston!

Havok
02-08-2004, 02:09 AM
geaux Andy:banana: poor James if they meet up in the quarters:lol: what is it 8-0 in favor of Roddick??? and as for doubles, Andy doesn't play with James, in fact i don't think they ever played a dubs match together. he'll most probably join with Fish. unless Vahaly is there? is he?

Deboogle!.
02-08-2004, 02:33 AM
it's 7-0 right now... would be 8-0 should they meet in QF ;)

oh I didn't know Andy never played with James. Yes Vahaly is playing too so I wouldn't be surprised to see Andy play doubles (which is good, he needs to learn to love the net ;) )

Havok
02-08-2004, 02:47 AM
I'm pretty sure Andy has never played with james. I'm not 100% sure, but more than 50% sure of it. so Vahaly is in huh? so imo it's set, Roddick/Vahaly will be partners. Fish will most likely go with Ginepri, that's if he wants to play doubles, if not he'll go with Blake

Deboogle!.
02-08-2004, 02:56 AM
lol yes sir

Gambill is also playing and he and Andy have even won a title together.... so, who knows. but Andy and Brian are *likethisclose* so yeah probably be him ;)

I'm sure we'll find out soon enough LOL!!!!!!!

Deboogle!.
02-08-2004, 05:14 PM
We were wrong anyway.... Andy's not playing dubs.

Mardy and James are playing together and Vahaly's playing with Lee from Korea.

Deboogle!.
02-08-2004, 05:32 PM
looks like tomorrow night will have a little role reversal.... at the 1-set exo between BG and Chang, Andy's coaching BG (and Grandpa Todd is coaching Chang)

:haha: damn them for not televising this nationally!

Havok
02-08-2004, 08:16 PM
OMFG:haha: i knew about this but i didn't know Andy was gonna be coaching BG. this is what he;ll say
Andy to Brad: "Ok, so you're gonna hit a 150 mph serve and the point is yours!":lol:

Deboogle!.
02-08-2004, 08:34 PM
hahha yea

Prophetic suggested that Andy make Brad wear a visor and spike his hair :) and maybe Andy will wear the Metalicca hat and all black :haha:

J. Corwin
02-08-2004, 08:57 PM
I'm gonna be at the tournament on Sunday for the finals! I can't promise any exclusive pics for RO since it's not guaranteed Andy will make the finals. ;)

Havok
02-08-2004, 09:00 PM
go Andy for the finals:banana: how come only the finals Jace?

J. Corwin
02-08-2004, 09:49 PM
Well those are the only tickets I ordered. lol

I have school during week and I'm too far away from it.

Mr. Man
02-08-2004, 11:46 PM
I hope baldy ( :p ) wins the title! :banana:

Deboogle!.
02-09-2004, 12:26 AM
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Baldy v. Baldy

MisterQ
02-09-2004, 12:27 AM
It's sort of like Baldy v. Baldier.

Havok
02-09-2004, 01:03 AM
:haha:
how about:
bald "because i wanna be" vs bald "because that's the way it goes when you're old" ?

MisterQ
02-09-2004, 01:08 AM
or "bald because it gives me a distinctive look" vs. "bald because even after winning the USOpen and winning a million dollars and getting endorsements and a pop star girlfriend I can't find a freakin' competent hairdresser" :lol:

star
02-09-2004, 01:26 AM
You guys are too much. :)

Deboogle!.
02-09-2004, 02:04 AM
BAHAHAHAAH Q!!

Havok
02-09-2004, 02:09 AM
:haha:

J. Corwin
02-09-2004, 09:27 AM
lmao!!

Deboogle!.
02-09-2004, 03:28 PM
So the top TEN americans are playing the Siebel Open..... dannnnnggggggg lol

btw, one article I read said Andre is getting a $300,000 appearance fee to play, Andy $150,000. Dang!

J. Corwin
02-09-2004, 10:36 PM
Dang much? :)

Deboogle!.
02-09-2004, 10:39 PM
:p

Actually I find it interesting that Andre still commands fully DOUBLE what Andy does.

tangerine_dream
02-09-2004, 10:42 PM
:p

Actually I find it interesting that Andre still commands fully DOUBLE what Andy does.

As he damn well should. ;)

Age before beauty.....

Deboogle!.
02-09-2004, 10:47 PM
lmfao!!! Him getting more makes sense, but double was surprising.

oh and thankfully there is live scoring for this tourney... :woohoo:

J. Corwin
02-09-2004, 10:56 PM
oh I love the live scoring. I can actually do work while I follow the scoreboard *cough*

As for Andre's appearance fees, I believe he's the player who gets the most in the history of the game. He certainly got paid more than Pete did when they entered the same tournies. Pete, of course, was annoyed.

Deboogle!.
02-09-2004, 11:07 PM
well if he can get 300,000 for a small tourney (which is a full half of the entire fees - 600,000 they're paying out) then what does he get for bigger ones? LOL wow...

So if you think about it.... Andy and Andre are getting $450,000 and the other 30 players split the rest. :eek:

I don't know how it works - they don't get appearance fees for the Slams do they?

J. Corwin
02-10-2004, 12:17 AM
No they don't get appearance fees for the required ATP/ITF events.

Most players WANT to play the slams, without any persuasion needed lol. But for the smaller optional tournies, they try to entice the players to play their events.

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 12:23 AM
Right that's what I assumed but just wanted to make sure :)

Grandpa Toddy lost today :(

I wish they were showing Andy coaching Brad later on tv..... LOL

star
02-10-2004, 12:27 AM
So if you think about it.... Andy and Andre are getting $450,000 and the other 30 players split the rest. :eek:



The appearance fees are above and beyond the prize money.

J. Corwin
02-10-2004, 12:28 AM
Oh really? Where's the news on this? I had no idea that was gonna happen lol.

J. Corwin
02-10-2004, 12:28 AM
^I was referring to Andy coaching Brad lol

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 12:40 AM
The appearance fees are above and beyond the prize money.


Yeah!

Jace I posted it earlier in the thread.... and now I'm forgetting where I originally read it though - Andy's coaching Brad and Todd Martin is coaching Michael for the one set charity thing in a couple hours. I suppose the article could've been totally wrong too but I think that's just hilarious. Then again I'm pretty easily amused :o

Havok
02-10-2004, 12:40 AM
it was posted yesterday i think Jace. in the DC thread i think. aren't appearance fees totally separate from what the tournie's total amount of $ given away to players in the field:shrug:

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 12:44 AM
oh did I post it in the DC thread? that's odd, why would I do that? lol

anyway yes it seems they are completely separate. Which is why in Doha Andy was accused of taking the appearance fee and running.

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 12:45 AM
Nope it was this thread ;) Post #10 to be exact http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=407552&postcount=10

J. Corwin
02-10-2004, 12:52 AM
Single post page eh? You're just too good. ;)

And thanks.

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 12:56 AM
yea when you link direct to the post # it just comes up by itself ;)

tangerine_dream
02-10-2004, 03:10 AM
As for Andre's appearance fees, I believe he's the player who gets the most in the history of the game. He certainly got paid more than Pete did when they entered the same tournies. Pete, of course, was annoyed.

Hee hee hee! Petey always hated how people would bend over backwards for Andre and throw money at him but they weren't quite as accommodating for him---HIM. The great Pete Sampras! The one who won the most titles and was No. 1 six years in a row while Andre was busy chowing down on Taco Bell and dating Barbra Streisand. LOL! :lol: Aaah, the good ol' days. I miss the 90s. :)

But it worked out for all involved. Petey got all the titles but Andre ran away with all the hearts. :hearts:

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 03:53 AM
Not Everyone's hearts.....

:hearts: :kiss: for Pete :lick:

star
02-10-2004, 04:02 AM
Yeah..... well neither of them had my heart. Stefan had my heart. :)

and then Guga. :)

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 04:15 AM
yea.. I like Andre, but I don't feel emotionally attached to him like I did Pete.

J. Corwin
02-10-2004, 11:39 AM
I can say I like both of them.

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 10:10 PM
According to one of the betting things on livescore, Andy is 1.04 to beat Rochus and Rochus is 20.00 to beat Andy... I just found that highly amusing.

J. Corwin
02-10-2004, 10:28 PM
aw, poor Oliver

Deboogle!.
02-10-2004, 11:15 PM
nope, poor Christophe lol

the guy Andre's playing isn't faring much better if I recall, he was 15.00 and Andre was like 1.00 lol

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 03:40 AM
Andy was up a break in the first and just gave it back.... eep come on Andy!

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 03:45 AM
Have you ever seen Cristophe play? I haven't --- only Olivier... what's his style like?

star
02-12-2004, 03:47 AM
I'm assuming it's a lot like Ollie, but I don't know for sure. I'm hoping to see him at IW.

I :hearts: Ollie. He is entertaining to watch and he fights so hard.

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 03:50 AM
Andy broke to take the set 6-4 and gets to start serving in the second.... :bounce:

Well Christophe is pretty little too right? They'd have to fight hard!

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 03:50 AM
Well roddick won the first set. He only needed one set point, at 5-4, 30-40 on CR's serve.

sucks for Rochus, having Roddick serve first is a major disadvantage!

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 03:54 AM
well I want Andy to win so I think him serving first is good ;)

star
02-12-2004, 03:56 AM
One is the taller. I think it is Christophe.

Just think how well Ollie might do if he DID have a big serve!!

Christophe is 5'7" and turned 25 last December.

Ollie is 5'5" and was 23 in January.

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 03:57 AM
well I want Andy to win so I think him serving first is good ;)

Well I guess we're both just stating the obvious!

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 04:09 AM
And now it looks like Andy might run away with it! 4-1 in the second.

Havok
02-12-2004, 04:09 AM
6-4, 4-1:banana:
but Andy you should be winning these matches a little bit easier:o

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 04:18 AM
6-4 6-2 nice! :)

another Belgian next..... anyone know anything about him?

Havok
02-12-2004, 04:29 AM
if the player is Belgian, then that means they're not good:lol: no seriously only the Rochus brothers and Malisse are the known belgians, and they aren't so great. shouldnt be a problem for Andy. COME ON ANDY 3 MORE WINS AND YOU'RE IN THE FINALS:banana: do it for Jace:rocker2:

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 04:39 AM
If someone from Wales is Welch, why can't someone from Belgium be BELCH?

Havok
02-12-2004, 04:41 AM
well Belgium to Belgian is much easier and understandable, rather than Belgium to Belch:lol:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 04:42 AM
LOL Do it for Jace, Do it for you do it for all of us, do it for Roddick Online!!!!!

and LMFAO @ belch!!!!!!

Havok
02-12-2004, 04:53 AM
Roddick hits 16 aces in straight-set win over Rochus

By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer
February 11, 2004

AP - Feb 11, 11:05 pm EST
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SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) -- Andy Roddick rode his powerful serve to a 6-4, 6-2 victory over scrappy Belgian Christophe Rochus in the first round of the Siebel Open on Wednesday night.

The top-seeded Roddick hit 16 aces, the fastest of which was clocked at 143 mph, in his first career meeting against the 109th-ranked Rochus. The match lasted 58 minutes.

``There's so much intensity in his game,'' Rochus said. ``Everything goes so fast. He doesn't let you breathe.''

In the fifth game of the second set, Roddick's service game went: 143 mph ace, 136 mph first serve, 137 mph first serve, 118 mph ace, 136 mph ace.

Roddick's girlfriend, actress and singer Mandy Moore, attended the match, yet another girl believes Roddick can do better. The young female fan held up a sign reading, ``Don't Marry Mandy, Pick Me.''

Roddick pounded 29 winners to 18 for Rochus.

``I've played some good players, but like this? No,'' Rochus said.

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Earlier in the day, Robert Kendrick, a 24-year-old wild-card entry, pulled off the first upset of the tournament with a 6-4, 6-4 win over 23rd-ranked Taylor Dent in a second-round match.

Kendrick, from Fresno, Calif., made 67 percent of his first serves, hit 33 winners and never faced break point on the way to the best win of his career. He reached the quarterfinals of an ATP tournament for the second time after advancing to the semifinals at Delray Beach last year.

The Siebel is the first North American stop on the ATP circuit.

``It's a big event for me, being from Fresno,'' Kendrick said. ``I had played Taylor a few times, so I wasn't nervous at all. I had a game plan. I served real well at his body and kind of took the net away from him.''

Kendrick lost three of his previous four meetings with Dent.

Dent, the tournament's fourth seed, came to the net 48 times, but won just 22 of those points. He double-faulted four times, hit only 14 winners to 23 unforced errors and converted only two of seven break-point chances.

More wins like this one and Kendrick believes he will start to gain the same respect as Americans Roddick, Robby Ginepri, James Blake and Mardy Fish.

``They are all close friends of mine,'' said Kendrick, who often attended this tournament growing up. ``I'd like to be mentioned in that group.''

Fish held on to beat Kenneth Carlsen of Denmark 6-3, 3-6, 7-6 (2) in another second-round match. Fish led 5-3 in the third set before Carlsen broke serve to get back into the match. Fish, who hit aces of 129 and 127 mph, had to go to deuce five times to take a 6-5 lead, then hit six winners in the tiebreaker.

``I haven't seen the stats, but I would assume that it's a little messy,'' said Fish, who moments later grimaced when he learned he'd hit 50 unforced errors and 44 winners. ``I felt I played great at times and I felt I played some pretty bad points at times. Today was one of those matches you just try to get a win. ... I couldn't have played a better breaker.''

Jan-Michael Gambill also advanced to the round of 16 with a 6-3, 6-2 victory over qualifier KJ Hippensteel in the first meeting between the players.

In first-round action Wednesday, Hyung-Taik Lee defeated Xavier Malisse 7-6 (1), 6-1 and Joachim Johansson rallied to beat Nicolas Kiefer 5-7, 7-5, 6-2.

It was a particularly impressive result for Johansson because he played for Sweden in the Davis Cup on Saturday in Adelaide, Australia. He and partner Jonas Bjorkman beat Wayne Arthurs and Todd Woodbridge of Australia 7-6 (5), 6-4, 2-6, 6-7 (4), 7-5 in a match that lasted nearly 4 1/2 hours.

dumb stupid articles that were written by brainless idiots. they're still going out:banana:
and :eek: at Andy's serves. man is he ever fealing it:rocker2:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 04:53 AM
Roddick Wins First Match in San Jose
20 minutes ago

By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Andy Roddick always allows himself a little time to adjust to a new court and different surroundings — and it rarely takes very long. Roddick rode his powerful serve to a 6-4, 6-2 victory over scrappy Belgian Christophe Rochus in the first round of the Siebel Open on Wednesday night.


AP Photo



"I felt it was just a matter of time until I found my groove," Roddick said. "I could have served better. I had more double-faults than usual, but that's just nitpicking."


Yes, it certainly was.


The top-seeded Roddick pounded 16 aces, the fastest of which was clocked at 143 mph, in his first career meeting against the 109th-ranked Rochus. The match lasted 58 minutes. Roddick double-faulted three times.


"There's so much intensity in his game," Rochus said. "Everything goes so fast. He doesn't let you breathe."


In the fifth game of the second set, Roddick's service game went: 143 mph ace, 136 mph first serve, 137 mph first serve, 118 mph ace, 136 mph ace.


Roddick's girlfriend, actress and singer Mandy Moore, attended the match, yet another girl believes Roddick can do better. The young female fan held up a sign reading, "Don't Marry Mandy, Pick Me."


Roddick's popularity is on the rise, especially after he won the U.S. Open (news - web sites) last fall. Some even call him "A-Rod," the same nickname as star Texas Rangers (news) shortstop Alex Rodriguez.


"I'll give him the nickname, but I want his contract," Roddick said, referring to Rodriguez's $252 million deal. "I'll change my nickname fast."


Roddick hit 29 winners to 18 for Rochus.


"I've played some good players, but like this? No," Rochus said.

Havok
02-12-2004, 04:54 AM
HAH i beat the almighty bunk to a news article:banana:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 05:04 AM
lol posted at the same MINUTE

not to pics though ;)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040212/capt.caps11002120448.siebel_open_caps110.jpg

Top-seeded Andy Roddick waves toward his girlfriend, singer and actress Mandy Moore, after he defeated Christophe Rochus of Belgium 6-4, 6-2 in the first round of the Siebel Open, Wednesday, Feb. 11, 2004 in San Jose, Calif. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040212/capt.caps10802120403.siebel_open_caps108.jpg

Top-seeded Andy Roddick returns a shot to Christophe Rochus of Belgium in the first round of the Siebel Open, Wednesday, Feb. 11, 2004, in San Jose, Calif. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma)

Havok
02-12-2004, 05:06 AM
oh blah!. :lol:

star
02-12-2004, 05:08 AM
And you all even highlighted the same part.

Havok
02-12-2004, 05:11 AM
i know:banana: because me and bunk knew those 2 articles written about the break up were complete :bs: so we streesed that part:banana:

star
02-12-2004, 05:17 AM
From those pictures, I don't think red is a really good color for Andy..... or maybe it's just that very dark red.

Havok
02-12-2004, 05:32 AM
you don't like the red?? i like it. he should wear the red shorts now, with the blue top:yeah: but out of the 2 red tops, i loke the red striped on the shoulder better than the full red on the top. he should wear the blue one for the full color on the top

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 05:41 AM
I edited my article post with an updated version, some quotes from Andy etc.

tangerine_dream
02-12-2004, 06:04 AM
HAH i beat the almighty bunk to a news article:banana:

ROTFL! :worship: Naldo and bunk for their quick news and picture postings!

:bowdown: Andy!

mandy
02-12-2004, 08:07 AM
so relax, andy comes to the 2nd ground.

J. Corwin
02-12-2004, 11:38 AM
lol yes naldo. Andy, do it for me!! you have to win 3 more matches so i can see you win in the final!! ;)

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 02:35 PM
even if winning in the final means beating Andre? ;)

Plenty of news from the local Bay Area papers:
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Riding his serve, Roddick pulls away in Siebel opener
San Jose Mercury News

The suffocating savior of American men's tennis was in San Jose on Wednesday night.

``He doesn't let you breathe,'' said Christophe Rochus, who collapsed 6-4, 6-2 under Andy Roddick's devastating serve.

Actually, Roddick has the whole tennis world breathing -- a big sigh of relief. At 21, Roddick is just what the game needs: A new young star, and the most charismatic one the American game has had in ages.

Roddick is the entire package, arriving just in time as Pete Sampras exited and Andre Agassi was revving up the minivan.

``Everyone was saying, `Where are the good young Americans?' '' said Siebel Open Chairman Barry MacKay.

And then, along came Andy.

Roddick won the U.S. Open and started the year ranked No. 1. He's committed to representing the United States in the Davis Cup -- on Monday he lapped the court carrying a U.S. flag. He's affable, accommodating and charismatic.

When Agassi -- now the game's greatest statesman -- was Roddick's age, he came across as mostly hair and attitude. Sampras never seemed to be having fun with his stardom. Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe were never going to win any popularity contests.

But Roddick seems to get it. He comes across as a regular guy, maybe because he wasn't raised within the walls of a tennis academy.

He's funny, as he showed Monday night when he grabbed a microphone and did a running commentary/stand-up routine while his coach, Brad Gilbert, played an exhibition against Michael Chang.

He has been on ``Saturday Night Live.'' He has a pop star girlfriend in Mandy Moore. He has groupies -- on Wednesday, one teenager held up a sign that read, ``Don't Marry Mandy -- Pick Me!'' He signs autographs. He has been in Rolling Stone. And, oh yeah, he blasts through opponents. ``At his young age, he has a real flair,'' MacKay said. ``He's a breath of spring.''

Don't talk to Rochus -- the Belgian ranked 109th in the world -- about breath or breathing. Though he won six games from Roddick, he felt like he was choking for air.

``I never had the feeling I was controlling the ball,'' Rochus said. ``There's so much intensity in his game. Everything goes so fast.''

Mostly, the tennis ball goes so fast. Roddick opened the game with a 126 mph ace. In the fifth game of the second set, his serves registered in order: 143 mph (ace), 136, 137, 118 (ace) and 136 (ace). But he can do better. Last weekend, when Roddick played in a Davis Cup match against Austria in Connecticut, he broke the record for fastest serve, a record he had tied with others at 149 mph.

He hit 150 in Connecticut. And when he played a meaningless game Sunday, the crowd started chanting ``one-fifty-one, one-fifty-one.'' They wanted to see a new record. They didn't get it, but they did see another 150 mph ace -- which bruised the shoulder of a spectator, stopping play briefly.

There was no chanting from the Siebel crowd on Wednesday night. Maybe they were worried about getting hurt. The closest Roddick got was his 143 mph ace, but the on-court interviewer asked him, ``No 150 tonight?''

``It's probably not going to happen every night,'' Roddick said.

OK, so he's not perfect. But even on a less-than-record-setting day, Roddick dominated the match. His new coach, Gilbert, makes a point of never looking concerned, and he really, truly didn't look concerned. Moore wasn't worried -- she even signed her own autographs and didn't seem bothered by the teenager who had put an X over her face on the ``Pick Me'' poster.

Roddick had 16 aces and won 84 percent of his first serves. Rochus was reeling, but good-guy Roddick didn't seem to notice.

``I really thought actually that he was handling my stuff decently,'' Roddick said, sounding exactly like a flame-throwing relief pitcher.

Just like a baseball player, Roddick has ``stuff.'' He also has a familiar nickname: A-Rod, though he's willing to give that up to the Texas Rangers shortstop.

``I'll give him the nickname,'' Roddick said. ``I want the contract.''

But Roddick has something that even the other A-Rod's $252 million can't buy. He's having fun with his stardom. And, at only 21, he gets it.

star
02-12-2004, 02:49 PM
you don't like the red?? i like it. he should wear the red shorts now, with the blue top:yeah: but out of the 2 red tops, i loke the red striped on the shoulder better than the full red on the top. he should wear the blue one for the full color on the top

He's got a lot of red in his hair, and with his head shaved like this the color looks a lot lighter. Maybe with his full head of hair he would look better in red.......... well, let's face it, he would look better in anything with more hair ;)..... People with red hair have to be careful about red but some can wear it successfully..... but usually a orange red instead of the dark blue red he is wearing now. Also a dead white isn't really a good color for him with his complexion and hair. I'd like to see him in some warm beigey things and some bluegreens. He looks good in a deep warm brown, but I don't know about that for tennis. :)

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 02:58 PM
LOL Star Ms. Fashionista!!!

Here's a funny article... but someone posted it to a yahoogroup and didn't list the source so I'm trying to find out.
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SIEBEL OPEN
Speed of the essence for Roddick

Andy Roddick needs our help, folks.

Tennis' vocabulary hasn't caught up with Roddick's serve.

In baseball, the fastball is Gas, Smoke, Bee-bees, Aspirin Tablets, Nasty Stuff, Filthy, The Heater, Hard Cheese.

In tennis, a really big serve is ... a really big serve.

Roddick's serve is special. It deserves a nickname. The A Train?

The problem, according to Roddick's coach, Brad Gilbert, is that in tennis the players don't sit around a clubhouse talking ball, inventing names.

"I call it Wood," says Gilbert, the Shaman of Swat. "I say Andy is bringing wood. He's got a lot of wood."

Roddick brought about a cord of wood Wednesday night, his opening match in the Siebel Open. He mowed down 5-foot-7 Belgian fireplug Christophe Rochus 6-4, 6-2 with an arsenal that included the woodiest serve in tennis.

Roddick's fastest serve was 143 mph, well below his world record of 150, recorded earlier this month. That one broke the record of 149 that Roddick shared with Greg Rusedski (registered in '98), whose big serve apparently is steroid-aided.

The only other guys to hit the 140-mph level since the radar gun came onto the tour in 1991 are Taylor Dent (144), Mark Philippoussis (142), Julian Alonso (140) and Gilles Elseneer (140). Roddick also has a 147 clocking.

As one can conclude from some names on that list, you need something more than a big serve to crack the top 10. Roddick didn't get to No. 1 last year (No. 3 now) with nothing but a hellacious serve.

But it's a nice thing to have, and it goes well with the other stuff.

"There is so much intensity in his game," Rochus said. "Everything goes so fast. He doesn't let you get as break."

What's fast?

"The stroke, between the points, everything," said Rochus, with the dazed look of a guy whose car just got buzzed by a UFO.

Hey -- the UFO?

Roddick, who plays like he's got a cab waiting (come to think of it, he did have Mandy Moore waiting), uses the big serve to set up his other serves - - change-up, spin, kick, corner-placement stuff. Rochus returned several of the 130-plus serves, but got aced on serves clocked in the 103-mph range.

"You know he serves really fast," said Rochus, "so most of the time you choose one side, and if you choose the wrong side..."

Kiss your match goodbye.

Gilbert says Roddick's right arm is a natural rocket. When he chucks a football, it jumps out of his hand. And it's more than just speed. His serve has heft. It's heavy.

"You feel it," Gilbert said. "In baseball, some guys throw 98 but it's not popping the mitt. (Roger) Clemens explodes the mitt. (Boris) Becker had a heavy serve."

Rochus said the same thing.

"The ball is so heavy," he said.

The Fat Boy? The Big Load? I'm trying.

Roddick refers to it as the Big Flat One.

He vividly remembers the voila moment when he discovered the Big Flat One. He was just short of his 17th birthday, practicing, getting angry at himself.

"I just stepped up to the line and took a wicked swing at it without really going through the proper motions," he told the Times of London. "And it went in, and I did it again and it went in again, and it was pretty hot, and the rest is history. ... It's completely natural."

Instead of a big flourishing wind-up, Roddick's Big Flat One is delivered from a half-motion, a fast, angry lash, like the cast of a frustrated fly- fisherman.

"To go for the Big Flat One, it takes the least amount of thought," Roddick says.

Gilbert says he believes Roddick can hit a serve 160 mph one day. He's 21 years old and could add muscle to his already-sturdy 190-pound, 6-2 frame.

Of course, Gilbert is working to achieve more than more pure octane in Roddick's serve. Gilbert points out that Roger Federer, considered the game's greatest all-around artist, serves at about 124 mph, tops.

"But he paints the lines," Gilbert says.

Roddick, Gilbert feels, has miles (and mph) to go before he sleeps. He can improve in a million ways, including following that Big Flat One to the net more often. Roddick usually hangs back to admire the bomb.

Still, the biggest crowd reaction of the match came when Roddick unleashed the 143. Rochus topped out at 107. When you're giving up almost 30 mph on the serve, you have to figure you're giving up about that much on groundstrokes. Short night.

And Roddick does hit balls hard. As they say in baseball, he does not get cheated on his hacks.

And when a player is serving in the 140s, he's going to get a lot of calls, because linespersons are making their calls by ear.

The Rumor? Mr. Big? Woody? The Gutbuster?

Fumus
02-12-2004, 03:47 PM
Associated Press
SAN JOSE, Calif. -- Andy Roddick refuses to take himself too seriously, acknowledging that an athlete can be at the top one day only to fall the next.


The American tennis star exhibited his laid-back personality when someone reminded him that he shares the nickname "A-Rod" with Texas Rangers shortstop Alex Rodriguez.


"I'll give him the nickname, but I want his contract," Roddick said, referring to Rodriguez's 10-year, $252 million deal. "I'll change my nickname fast."


His game is much more serious than his off-court persona.


Roddick rode his powerful serve to a 6-4, 6-2 victory over scrappy Belgian Christophe Rochus in the first round of the Siebel Open on Wednesday night.


"I felt it was just a matter of time until I found my groove," Roddick said. "I could have served better. I had more double-faults than usual, but that's just nitpicking."


Yes, it certainly was.


Top-seeded Roddick pounded 16 aces, the fastest of which was clocked at 143 mph, in his first career meeting against 109th-ranked Rochus. The match lasted 58 minutes. Roddick double-faulted three times.


"There's so much intensity in his game," Rochus said. "Everything goes so fast. He doesn't let you breathe."


In the fifth game of the second set, Roddick's service game went: 143-mph ace, 136-mph first serve, 137-mph first serve, 118-mph ace, 136-mph ace.


Roddick's girlfriend, actress and singer Mandy Moore, attended the match, but someone believes Roddick can do better. The young female fan held up a sign reading, "Don't Marry Mandy, Pick Me."


In the late match, James Blake, seeded seventh, beat fellow American Zack Fleishman 6-1, 6-3. Blake hit six aces and 22 winners and was done in 50 minutes against the qualifier.


Earlier in the day, Robert Kendrick, a 24-year-old wild-card entry, pulled off the first upset of the tournament with a 6-4, 6-4 win over 23rd-ranked Taylor Dent in a second-round match.


Kendrick, from Fresno, Calif., made 67 percent of his first serves, hit 33 winners and never faced break point on the way to the best win of his career. He reached the quarterfinals of an ATP tournament for the second time after advancing to the semifinals at Delray Beach last year.


The Siebel is the first North American stop on the ATP circuit.


"It's a big event for me, being from Fresno," Kendrick said. "I had played Taylor a few times, so I wasn't nervous at all. I had a game plan. I served real well at his body and kind of took the net away from him."


Kendrick lost three of his previous four meetings with Dent.


Dent, the tournament's fourth seed, double-faulted four times, hit only 14 winners to 23 unforced errors and converted only two of seven break-point chances.


American Mardy Fish held on to beat Kenneth Carlsen of Denmark 6-3, 3-6, 7-6 (2) in another second-round match. Fish led 5-3 in the third set before Carlsen broke serve to get back into the match. Fish, who hit aces of 129 and 127 mph, had to go to deuce five times to take a 6-5 lead, then hit six winners in the tiebreaker.


"I haven't seen the stats, but I would assume that it's a little messy," said Fish, who moments later grimaced when he learned he'd hit 50 unforced errors and 44 winners. "I felt I played great at times, and I felt I played some pretty bad points at times. Today was one of those matches you just try to get a win. ... I couldn't have played a better breaker."


Jan-Michael Gambill also advanced to the round of 16 with a 6-3, 6-2 victory over qualifier KJ Hippensteel in the first meeting between the players.


In first-round action Wednesday, Hyung-Taik Lee defeated Xavier Malisse 7-6 (1), 6-1, and Joachim Johansson rallied to beat Nicolas Kiefer 5-7, 7-5, 6-2.

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 03:49 PM
I love how the AP puts out an article like 4 times and just changes the headline and opening paragraph or so :o lmao

Fumus
02-12-2004, 03:56 PM
I love how the AP puts out an article like 4 times and just changes the headline and opening paragraph or so :o lmao

haha, I know, I read the other articles that you guys put up. They are exactly the same but, slighty rephased.

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 04:12 PM
yea.... it's highly amusing lmfao

Fumus
02-12-2004, 04:22 PM
yea.... it's highly amusing lmfao

It reminds me of that book...

"How to Write the Same Article 5 Times and Pretend it's Different For Dummies"

did you read that one?

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 06:39 PM
lol yep it was assigned in one of my classes ;)

Havok
02-12-2004, 07:07 PM
:sad: i need to get that book

Prophetic
02-12-2004, 08:02 PM
im sorry but most of the names they listed for his serve shuold not be following a guy with the last name Roddick..wood, Mr. big......The Big Load?? that's just wrong.

Havok
02-12-2004, 08:08 PM
how about STOP making nicknames. the A-Train, widely used, imo, is extremely dumb. Federer Express is another one that kills me:haha: just call them by their respective namse, and thats that! and a big serve is just a big serve, not wood:rolleyes: are we talking about tennis here, or a dick:haha:

Fumus
02-12-2004, 08:14 PM
im sorry but most of the names they listed for his serve shuold not be following a guy with the last name Roddick..wood, Mr. big......The Big Load?? that's just wrong.

:haha: The should just come out and say it, I can imagine it now.....


(Campy Announcer voice) - "Introducing USA's Andy Roddick!" "Andy has the fastest serve in the world at 150mph, so fast ladies and gentlemen, that they nicknamed it 'The Male Sex Organ', so let's hear a round of applause for Andy Roddick and 'The Male Sex Organ'"

*-Crowd Cheers-*

Andy later responded to the criticism on his abbreviated wind-up on the serve "It's not the size of 'The Male Sex Organ' that counts it's all about the Motion"


:lol: it could work

Havok
02-12-2004, 08:17 PM
:haha::haha:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 08:20 PM
LMGDFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How bout we just call him Andy. Just plain Andy :)

Fumus
02-12-2004, 08:31 PM
I was hoping you would find that funny...yea Andy works..how bout' Roddy?

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 08:42 PM
Roddy? No that just sounds ridiculous lol.

In general, I'm just not a fan of nicknames.

Fumus
02-12-2004, 08:46 PM
Roddy? No that just sounds ridiculous lol.

In general, I'm just not a fan of nicknames.

haha yea, Roddy, you know you love it!!

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 08:58 PM
no.... actually I really don't lmao

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 09:16 PM
Roddy, that name reminds me a lot of Debbie... :bolt:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 09:17 PM
That better have been a general observation Q, or you're in a lot of trouble :armed:

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 09:19 PM
Oh, of course bunk, it was extremely general! General all the way! :angel: ;)

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 09:21 PM
better have been!!!

:armed:

You might think I'm kidding...............

tangerine_dream
02-12-2004, 09:25 PM
I keep thinking "Roddy McDowell".....no like! :ras:

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 09:25 PM
:scared:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 09:28 PM
:scared:


Now that's more like it!!!

*Rubs hands together* :devil:

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 09:39 PM
Here's TennisOne's account of Andy and the match last night... interesting:
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Andy Roddick

On Wednesday night Andy Roddick displayed his US Open championship form. The kid is the real thing, and as Gilbert has said, “Knows how to take care of his serve.”

Interestingly, many have questioned his abbreviated service motion and even speculated on potential injuries that may ensue. Baloney. There is as much known as unknown when anyone conjures the biomechanics of the serve.

Roddick is balanced, he has a dual leg drive up and into the hit (as opposed to favoring one leg more than the other which would diminish the summation of the forces from both legs) and he creates tremendous racquet head speed. In fact I would guess he creates more racquet head speed than anyone on the tour, as would be indicated by his 150mph effort in the recent Davis Cup.

A few years ago I spoke with his former coach Tarik Benhabiles and asked where this huge serve came from. Initially Tarik motioned to show that both legs drive equally. But then he went on to say that Roddick is the most limber man on the tour, and up to that point it was Sampras who was known for this, Pete could touch his elbows behind his back. Well if you combine the balanced dual leg drive with extremely limber shoulder and arm, viola you find the whip. And whip it indeed.

If his serve were average, Roddick would be perhaps top 30 in the world. His forehand is penetrating, but there are many better (Agassi, Federer, Safin). His backhand is poor at best. Listening last night, I counted generally one of every three backhands slightly mishit; the sound was a dead giveaway. Compared to the thud of Agassi or Safin, this part of his game either needs serious work or is simply tolerated because the serve is so darn good.

I believe he may have served 60 aces in his semifinal and final matches at the US Open. And against Rochus he was devastating, mixing 143mph bombs, with wicked sidespin aces to the deuce court and huge topspin kicks to the ad court. Kids looking up to the future of tennis would do well to study his serve, but then go to Agassi for groundstroke models, and Taylor Dent for advanced study of the chip and charge. When will we have an American that can do it all?

Havok
02-12-2004, 10:01 PM
Safin and Federer no way have better forehands than Andy. the best forehands in the game are Roddick, Ferrero, and Moya, with Roddick/Ferrero a little better than Moya.
and i dont get the part of the sound you hear from a misshit? don't mishits have different sounds than when its properly struck for everyone??? and Roddick's backhand poor at best:eek: is this dude smoking crack? at best Roddick's backhand is good. on average his backhand is just that, average

tangerine_dream
02-12-2004, 10:06 PM
Andy's backhand has definitely improved, but it's to his advantage that many still think it's as bad as it was in 2002! ;)

Havok
02-12-2004, 10:07 PM
;) tangerine

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 10:20 PM
LOL Tangy..... good point!

MisterQ
02-12-2004, 10:23 PM
Well if you combine the balanced dual leg drive with extremely limber shoulder and arm, viola you find the whip. And whip it indeed.


For a moment I was stunned to see a Viola joke, of all things, in a tennis article! ;) But on second thought, they probably meant "voila."

Deboogle!.
02-12-2004, 10:26 PM
HAHAHA Q such a good eye... yes I imagine they meant voila

Havok
02-13-2004, 12:46 AM
things are looking good for Jace to see Roddick live in the finals. Blake just went out to Johansoon, so Andy's draw is WIDE open. he should have gotten to the finals regardless of his opponents, but now he'll get there with greater ease. he plays that belgian tonight, Johansoon tomorrow, Kendrick/Saulnier in the semis. Saulnier has given Roddick HEAPS of trouble in the 2 times they've met, but Andy pulled through in both matches. but he's playing much better than he did at Miami 2003, and RCA champs 2003

star
02-13-2004, 01:12 AM
Blake just went out to Johansoon, so Andy's draw is WIDE open.

Pim Pim :woohoo:

And anyway Naldo, I like to think that Andy will have a more difficult time with Pim Pim than with Blake. :p

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 01:14 AM
yea I agree with star, Blake would've been beaten before even walking out on court most likely. This will be much harder for him, IMO. And so would Saulnier moreso than Ginepri, another of Andy's pigeon buddies.

star
02-13-2004, 01:16 AM
Well, now this also brings up Davis Cup as well.

They are probably going to face off in Davis Cup and I'm sure that both of them want to make an impression.

Havok
02-13-2004, 01:18 AM
i guess i was talking seeding wise:shrug: nobody's a pushover, but it's Roddick we're talking about. not the old Roddick, the new Roddick. he should be in the finals regardless

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 01:19 AM
true, star, it does.

Yes Naldo, but just because Andy should win on paper doesn't mean he will lol

star
02-13-2004, 01:21 AM
But I agree, If Andy isn't in the finals of this tournament, we should start to worry about him. :D

star
02-13-2004, 01:22 AM
The serves are gonna be booming though. Pim Pim served 240 in Davis Cup. :)

Havok
02-13-2004, 01:31 AM
how did he get the nickname Pim Pim??? and how does he play? just a big serve? how about groundstrokes??? return, etc

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 01:42 AM
But I agree, If Andy isn't in the finals of this tournament, we should start to worry about him. :D

Are you being facetious? lol

star
02-13-2004, 01:43 AM
I haven't seen him play. Hope I get to see him at IW.

He's reportedly got a very big serve. He was practicing with Lleyton all during the break.

Swedes just have wacky nicknames for people. Tompa... Pim Pim.......

I started following Pim when I saw him in a draw for the junior RG. I think that was 1999. He was just a youngster then. I never really have read much about how he plays. Only that he dates Jaslyn. ;)

star
02-13-2004, 01:44 AM
Are you being facetious? lol

facetious?

Why?

I think that if Andy can't get to the finals of this tournament something is WRONG.

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 01:45 AM
no I wasn't assuming you were, I just wanted to make sure! :)

I agree, though... he should make the finals.

Havok
02-13-2004, 01:48 AM
why did you take him up by just seeing his name in the 1999 Rg juniors draw??? btw how did he do? and how old is he now?

star
02-13-2004, 01:58 AM
Birthdate:
7/1/1982
Birthplace:
Lund, Sweden
Residence:
Sodertalje, Sweden
Height:
6'6'' (198 cm)
Weight:
198 lbs (89 kg)
Plays:
Right-handed
Turned Pro:
2000

I like to look at the junior draws at slams to pick up youngsters to follow. Joachim Johansson had a nice ring to it. Also he was Swedish. :)

I started following Jarrko Niemenen that year too.

Havok
02-13-2004, 02:03 AM
:eek: he's 6'6. so you like them Sweeds huh;)

star
02-13-2004, 02:05 AM
Yeah. If he can't serve big, who can? :)

Yes. I like all the Scandinavians. I cheer like mad for them.

star
02-13-2004, 05:31 AM
Kristof is no match for Andy this night.

6-2

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 05:36 AM
I've never even heard of him til this tourney... not that this means much LMAO!! :o

Really, if he gave Andy too much trouble I'd be a bit concerned lol

star
02-13-2004, 05:39 AM
Kristof is one of the lesser Belgians, but the youngest of the top Belgians too. Another big guy.

Birthdate:
6/22/1982
Birthplace:
Maaseik, Belgium
Residence:
Maaseik, Belgium
Height:
6'4'' (193 cm)
Weight:
159 lbs (72 kg)
Plays:
Right-handed
Turned Pro:
2001

star
02-13-2004, 05:40 AM
Pronounced Flee-gen.

Havok
02-13-2004, 05:42 AM
well Andy has bp's in that last game, lets see if it affects him? oh and Andy, hurry it up please, i wanna go to bed:mad:

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 05:44 AM
he's a week older than I am (and incidentally I know SO many people born on 6/22/82!!!!)

lol Naldo, why would that affect him unless he gets all mad at himself and stuff?

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 05:49 AM
obviously didn't bother him too much since he just broke and then held at love lol

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 06:03 AM
6-2 6-3 :dance: :banana:

good luck in the QF, Andy!!

The match is last (4th) in the afternoon session tomorrow.

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 07:14 AM
:eek:

Roddick next plays longtime friend and former junior doubles partner Joachim Johansson. The two reached the French Open Junior doubles final in 2000.

:eek:

I did not know:

1: they even knew each other
2: they played doubles
3: Andy made it to the junior dubs FO Final (Andy should most definitely repeatedly point out that he's been in a final at Roland Garros ;) )

You learn new stuff every day!

J. Corwin
02-13-2004, 09:56 AM
Yep...those were new to me too! lol

congrats andy. his next match should be a lil tougher. so good luck to him.

star
02-13-2004, 01:41 PM
:eek:



I was also :eek: :eek:

I don't even remember that AT all, even though I was aware of both of them in 2000. I guess I have to start paying more attention to doubles. ;)

But GREAT facts.

The only thing I wonder is if playing doubles at RG is evidence that they are friends. Acquaintances, for sure. But friends?

star
02-13-2004, 01:42 PM
I'm gonna go and post it on the Pim Pim thread.

MisterQ
02-13-2004, 02:46 PM
The only thing I wonder is if playing doubles at RG is evidence that they are friends. Acquaintances, for sure. But friends?

I'd go so far as to say lovers. :lol:

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 03:44 PM
Q :haha:

Here's more of what Andy said, posted from the ATP, it sounds like they are pals.

On playing Johansson: "We were buddies in juniors and we played a couple times and there were a lot of tiebreakers in those matches. I knew it was just a matter of time before he would kind of come through and start getting some wins and he had too many weapons not to win matches out here. He’s going to be a lot to deal with, he’s going to serve huge and I just kind of have to try to play solid on his return game and kind of get him in when I can and take control from the baselines. I’m not going to get a whole lot of rhythm because he takes big cuts from the baseline as well so I’m going to have to pick my spots to aggressive because I know it's not going to be possible at all times."

Glad you guys didn't know either, I would've felt like a nimrod if you all had already known :o

The good news for Andy is that he should know his game and know what he needs to do..... but, I'm worried about this one!

Oh and here's the ATP's little wrapup:
----
Top seed Andy Roddick and second seeded Andre Agassi took another step towards a possible final showdown at the 2004 Siebel Open when both won matches Thursday night and moved into the quarterfinals having yet to lose a set. Roddick cruised through with a 6-2, 6-3 victory over Belgian Kristof Vliegen. Roddick, who never faced break point in the 51 minute match, fired nine aces and lost only three points in nine service games (:eek: ). Roddick had a first serve percentage of 77, his best of the season (:eek: :yeah: ).
----
I cannot imagine getting 77% of serves in at the speed in which he serves them. Holy good LORD!!!!!!!! lol

tangerine_dream
02-13-2004, 05:13 PM
Andy! :banana:

Mardy! :bounce:

Andre! :worship:

All are doing well so far in Siebel although it looks like it's Andy who's having a smoother ride than the others.

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 05:31 PM
Yep tangy it does.

Mardy's 2-0 against Lee so hopefully he can make it through, an Andre-Mardy SF would be interesting since they've never played.... that would be very exciting for Mardy, I am sure.

and let's just hope Andy's easy ride continues :drive:

Havok
02-13-2004, 06:06 PM
go Andy go:drive:

J. Corwin
02-13-2004, 10:50 PM
He had an easy ride at Oz...until boom! :p

tangerine_dream
02-13-2004, 10:56 PM
I know! lol. But there's no white Russian or Swiss cheese for Andy to worry about this time. He only has to worry about the A-train. ;)

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 10:58 PM
lmgdfao Andy needs a food name

Nebraska Beef?? ;)

star
02-13-2004, 11:05 PM
Texas Toranado

star
02-13-2004, 11:06 PM
U.S.A. Prime Cut

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 11:11 PM
hahahaha good ones!

J. Corwin
02-13-2004, 11:21 PM
clever ones, star

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 11:26 PM
Andy MUST win tonight because my friend is having a party tomorrow and he said if I come he'll let me watch TTC :dance: :banana:

Havok
02-13-2004, 11:30 PM
:banana: i can picture it now, everyone's partying, and then there's little 'ol bunk sitting in front of the tv cheering andy on:rocker2:

Deboogle!.
02-13-2004, 11:33 PM
obviously!!! He's off campus in an apt so I can't drink so watching TTC would be the ONLY viable option!!!

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 01:21 AM
Play has begun. Andy holds serve to begin the match against Joachim Johansson.

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:25 AM
Roddick 2-1:banana: he's having some difficulties holding. come on Andy break now:rocker2:

star
02-14-2004, 01:26 AM
Go Everybody!! :)

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:32 AM
Roddick leads 4-1. thanks for listening to me Andy:yeah:

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:34 AM
ugh poor you star:hug: your two faves battling it out. i don't have that problem because Jelena and Andy are my 2 big faves and they can't face off against eachother now can they:lol:

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:36 AM
Roddick 5-2:banana:

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 01:37 AM
Andy leading 5-2

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:39 AM
come on Andy!!

he had me scared at the beginning with the bp then Johansson holding at love!

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:40 AM
and don't waste break set points!

star
02-14-2004, 01:40 AM
ugh poor you star:hug: your two faves battling it out. i don't have that problem because Jelena and Andy are my 2 big faves and they can't face off against eachother now can they:lol:

I would just like it to be a close match, but it's not turning out that way.

Jelena and Andy could face off......... Think of the fireworks. What could be better for you than if Andy started dating Jelena? ;)

star
02-14-2004, 01:41 AM
BP for Mr. Roddick.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:42 AM
Andy killed two set point babies :(

I dunno star, it's not a slaughter so far or anything. he had a BP against andy in the first game and took him from 40-15 to deuce twice on another...

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:43 AM
6-3 :D halfway there! Come on Andy!!!!

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:46 AM
I would just like it to be a close match, but it's not turning out that way.

Jelena and Andy could face off......... Think of the fireworks. What could be better for you than if Andy started dating Jelena? ;)
nah Jelena and Andy can stay far away from eachother relationship wise. besided i like Roddick with Mandy anyways

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:47 AM
6-3, 0-1 on serve;) go Andy:banana:

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:47 AM
that's good Naldo I like them too :)

This second set is gonna be a battle I think. Andy better be careful since he's playing catchup

star
02-14-2004, 01:49 AM
Winning a set 6-3 is an easy win. Wasn't it two breaks?

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:50 AM
no just one... he had 2 set/break points to take the set 6-2 and start out serving but he didn't convert them.

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:51 AM
6-3, 1-2 on serve. seems like a battle of serves for this 2nd set

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:52 AM
the whole match is like that no? I mean they have about the fastest serves on the tour right now lol

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:56 AM
yup, but the 1st set had some points won returning serve. now they're basically holding serve at love constantly Roddick 6-3, 2-3 on serve

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:57 AM
well Pim Pim had 15-30 on Andy's serve in the last game.... but yea holding pretty easily.

come on Andy time to break!

Havok
02-14-2004, 01:58 AM
Pim Pim :haha: what a name

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 01:59 AM
it's cute... though it doesn't really fit for a big tough 6'6" guy but yeah lol

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:00 AM
6-3, 3-4 on serve. i smell a tie-break coming, or a 7-5 2nd set scoreline

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:00 AM
exactly why its funny bunk;)

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:01 AM
what's funny?

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:05 AM
the name Pim Pim for a 6'6 dude

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:05 AM
I didn't say it's funny... just a little odd. PimPim is so cutesy and a 6'6" jock type wouldn't normally fall under 'cutesy' lol

this second set is frustrating lol

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:06 AM
6-3, 4-5 on serve. Johansson is hoding serve easier than Roddick is. come on Andy hold your serve and break:banana:

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 02:06 AM
Pim Pim :haha: what a name

He should spell it:

Pimp I'm ;)

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:06 AM
well you're odd= my funny;)

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:07 AM
He should spell it:

Pimp I'm ;)
:haha: thats a classic Q:worship:

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:08 AM
Q LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yea Naldo he is holding easier. that's why I'd prefer it not go to a tiebreaker lol.

I'm not laughing about the nickname or anything it's just like one of those, you think about it and go "hmm" lol that's it.
commonnnnnn Andy

star
02-14-2004, 02:08 AM
He should spell it:

Pimp I'm ;)

bad bad Q

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:10 AM
nahhhhhhhhhhh funny funny Q..

Q, I am jealous of the way your mind works lol. I want to be that funny!

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 02:11 AM
thanks bunk :)

star
02-14-2004, 02:11 AM
Me too. :)

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:11 AM
6-3, 5-6. hmmm looks like a tie-break. COME ON ANDY. hold serve, and take your chances on your return!!! he might get tight

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:12 AM
come on Andy force the TB and then win, please!

Have I ever mentioned I hate TBs!?

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:12 AM
i LOVE tie-breaks. so intense

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:15 AM
TB time:banana: lets go Andy, take it home:rocker2:

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:15 AM
well I don't like them.... too nerve-wracking!

star
02-14-2004, 02:16 AM
Andy has the coveted mini-break.

star
02-14-2004, 02:17 AM
Andy has all the points.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:17 AM
I thought you didn't like talking about mini-breaks star? or is that someone else? LOL

star
02-14-2004, 02:17 AM
There's one for Joachim at last.

star
02-14-2004, 02:18 AM
One coveted mini break back.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:18 AM
he gave one of the mb back

come on Andy!

star
02-14-2004, 02:19 AM
oops.... another coveted mini break

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 02:19 AM
I like TBs as well. I love the excitement and edge-of-your-seat feeling. That's what tennis, and sports in general, is all about.

What's the fun in Andy winning easily all the time?

star
02-14-2004, 02:19 AM
Match points

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 02:20 AM
He gave the mb back...

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:20 AM
GAH ANDY!!!!!!!!!!

star
02-14-2004, 02:20 AM
I'm thinking it's over.

star
02-14-2004, 02:21 AM
Oh my gosh.......... The main page has it tied at 6 all.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:21 AM
why are you thinking that lol it's not

star
02-14-2004, 02:22 AM
why are you thinking that lol it's not

Because my scoreboard wasn't moving.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:22 AM
yea star... what are you looking at? PimPim with SP

7-7 now

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 02:22 AM
7-7!

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:22 AM
ooooooo sorries.....

my computer is spazzzzzzing out...

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 02:22 AM
this scoreboard refreshes really slowly...

star
02-14-2004, 02:23 AM
Chill. I'm up with it now. I posted it was 6 all.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:23 AM
probably so many people watching lol

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:23 AM
1-0*
*2-0
*3-0
4-0*
4-1*
*4-2
*5-2
5-3*
5-4*
*6-4
*6-5
6-6*
6-7*
*7-7
*8-7
game, set, and match Roddick 6-3, 7-6(7) shoulda closed it out at 6-3 in the TB but oh well. GO ANDY:rocker2:

star
02-14-2004, 02:23 AM
Andy Wins!! 9-7

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:23 AM
YES ANDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thankkkkkkk youuuuuuuuuuuuu

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:24 AM
*breathes*

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 02:24 AM
Andy wins the return point to win it 9-7 in the breaker!

*cheers*

This means I will at least get to see him on TV now. ;)

star
02-14-2004, 02:24 AM
At least Pim Pim put up a good fight in the second set.

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 02:25 AM
Yes he did. :)
He did awesome playing against the 2003 year end #1.

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:27 AM
good job Pim Pim:hug: if he has that kind of a serve(don't know if hes got the kick of Andy, or the nasty slice, esc) he'll become one heck of a force on the ATP tour. this means that Andy gets himself into the top 10 in the Race leaderboard:banana: and Jace, imo there's NO WAY Roddick's losing to Kendrick tomorrow in the semis. such a lucky bum getting to watch Andy live and in person:sad: FUCK YOU RAIN:fiery:

star
02-14-2004, 02:28 AM
What? What does the rain have to do with it?

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:29 AM
awwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!

Naldo don't be so confident, who thought Kendrick would beat all the players he beat!

LUCKY everyone...... but hey this means I'll get to go to my friend's house and see it on tv (or at least be able to tape it!!)

whooooooooo I feel the feeling coming back to my cheeks now. I HATE TIEBREAKERS!!

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:29 AM
because i was supposed to see the Roddick/Chela match live here in Montreal, but after 3 games, the rain came and they canceled the day session:sad:

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:34 AM
nah bunk, im not too worried about Kendrick

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 02:36 AM
I went to the USO this year and saw Lindsay Davenport and Paola Suarez warm up. That was it. They were about to start playing and it began to rain again.

I did see Younes El Aynaoui in a booth selling T-shirts too.

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:37 AM
poor Naldo

and LMAO why was Younes selling tshirts???

tangerine_dream
02-14-2004, 02:40 AM
Hurray! Andy wins another TB! The curse is broken. :banana:

An-DEE! An-DEE! An-DEE! :worship:

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 02:40 AM
and LMAO why was Younes selling tshirts???

That's how bored the rain was making everyone! :lol:

Probably he's a nice guy and someone said hey Younes wanna sell some T-shirts with me? There were a few people gathered around talking to him but he's so laid back, I don't think many people realized there was a celeb (at least in tennis terms) there.

Havok
02-14-2004, 02:43 AM
hey i think Andy's a perfect 3-0 in tie-breaks:eek::worship: far cry from how his TB record ended in 2003

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:46 AM
yes Naldo he is, thank god!!!!

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 02:47 AM
That's how bored the rain was making everyone! :lol:

Probably he's a nice guy and someone said hey Younes wanna sell some T-shirts with me? There were a few people gathered around talking to him but he's so laid back, I don't think many people realized there was a celeb (at least in tennis terms) there.


LOL!!!!!!! Did you go up and talk to him??

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 03:02 AM
BATTLE of the serves is right..... Andy hit 27, yes 27 aces :eek:
------
Roddick Reaches Siebel Open Semifinals
9 minutes ago

By JANIE McCAULEY, AP Sports Writer

SAN JOSE, Calif. - Andy Roddick paused and scratched his head as he thought back to the last time he played poorly.


That in a straight-sets loss to Sweden's Jonas Bjorkman early last month in Doha, Qatar.


"That was sneaky bad," said Roddick, referring to one he'd rather just forget.


He made sure to take care of a different Swede on Friday night in the Siebel Open, advancing to the semifinals with a 6-3, 7-6 (7) victory over Joachim Johansson.


Roddick pounded 27 aces to 14 for Johansson in the first meeting between the two 21-year-old big servers.


"It works," Roddick said of his serve. (THANKS Captain obvious!!!) "I've been feeling good rhythm. I'm getting the kind of action I want."


After breezing through the first set in 25 minutes, Roddick had to battle to win the second. He jumped out to a 4-0 lead in the tiebreaker but couldn't hold it as he was forced to chase down hard groundstrokes in the corners. Roddick, ranked third in the world, improved to 10-2 this year.


He hit a 133-mph ace for a 5-2 edge in the tiebreaker, then Johansson answered with a 130-mph ace to the corner and a 135-mph first serve that didn't come back.


Johansson went up 7-6 with a 137-mph ace before Roddick hit a 125-mph ace and went on to close out the match. The two were doubles partners as juniors for the French Open, where they reached the finals in 2000.


After he lost one point in the second set on a mis-hit, Roddick slammed his racket to the ground in frustration.

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 03:16 AM
LOL!!!!!!! Did you go up and talk to him??

I should have!

*regrets*

I have trouble going up to people I admire because I really don't want to bother them.

But I'm sure in this situation he would have expected it, so I should have.

maybe in '04! :)

Havok
02-14-2004, 03:16 AM
slammed racquet:banana: lol so intense this dude

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 03:23 AM
I should have!

*regrets*

I have trouble going up to people I admire because I really don't want to bother them.

But I'm sure in this situation he would have expected it, so I should have.

maybe in '04! :)


awwwww too bad! I'm sure I'd have done the same thing though :) Yea! '04!

WyveN
02-14-2004, 03:26 AM
I have trouble going up to people I admire because I really don't want to bother them.


You could just pretend you didn't know who he was and start asking him questions about the shirts he was selling ;)

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 03:27 AM
LMFAO that would've been heeeeelarious

J. Corwin
02-14-2004, 03:30 AM
Pretend to not know him and then ask for his autograph. ;)

WyveN
02-14-2004, 03:33 AM
the old "Sign my shirt so that I don't forget where I bought it" excuse would have worked

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 03:34 AM
hahahahahahah you guys are funny.

Oh I updated the AP article with a slightly newer version w/quotes for those who care.

tangerine_dream
02-14-2004, 03:54 AM
What's the score so far for Andre and Mr Hollywood? :bounce:

MisterQ
02-14-2004, 04:02 AM
What's the score so far for Andre and Mr Hollywood? :bounce:

4-4!

Deboogle!.
02-14-2004, 04:05 AM
My friend's plans changed..... no party at his apt.... no TTC for Debra :fiery: :bigcry: