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smucav
07-07-2006, 08:30 PM
http://www.asapsports.com/tennis/2006teles/070506PC.htmlPAUL ROETERT (USTA Managing Director of Player Development): You may or may not know. We just this week finished--Arlen and I just finished a trade with the Australian Open for men's and women's wildcard in the main draw. So we will give a 2006 US Open wildcard on the men's and women's side, and trade that for the Australian Open 2007.

dudi_fan
07-08-2006, 09:25 PM
I hope dudi gets a wildcard!!!

smucav
07-30-2006, 02:43 AM
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19943290-23216,00.htmlNo auto Open wildcard for Scud
By Paul Malone
29jul06

MARK Philippoussis may have to win a play-off series against Australian players to receive a US Open wildcard - and he will have to also declare his Davis Cup availability.

Tennis Australia director of player development Craig Tiley confirmed last night that the body had secured a wildcard exchange program between the Australian and US Opens in recent talks with the US Tennis Association.

Tiley said Tennis Australia would decide closer to the US Open in New York, which starts on August 28, whether to award the male and female wildcards at Australia's disposal or invite players to a wildcard play-off series at Flushing Meadows or Forest Hills.

Philippoussis's first title in almost three years, at Newport this month, lifted his world ranking to No. 121, 32 places ahead of thirdt-ranked Australian Peter Luczak - and behind only one compatriot, Lleyton Hewitt (No. 13).

"If someone says 'I'm not playing Davis Cup, but give me a wildcard', it's not going to happen," Tiley said.

"Obviously, we can't control it if they said they are going to play Davis Cup and then pull out the day before, but we can remember it for next time around . . . I don't think that would happen."

Australia is the underdog for its Davis Cup semi-final against Argentina in Buenos Aires from September 22-24 on clay, a surface on which Philippoussis won the deciding rubber of the 1999 Davis Cup final in France.

Philippoussis will not be a direct entry into the 128-man main draw because places are held for wildcards, qualifiers and exempt players.

"It's great for the players that we have these US Open wildcards again and we want to take our time to decide the best way for Australian tennis to use them," Tiley said.

"We've had Mark Philippoussis do well and win a tournament and Alicia Molik is now back on track. They may get a couple of wins the next few weeks and if they do then we can make a selection.

"Mark won't be a direct entry, but if his ranking goes below 100 we'd consider it (not having a play-off). On the men's side, one of the considerations is we have Davis Cup and it goes into the equation."

Australia's US Open men's wildcard allocation will be decided by Tiley, Australia Davis Cup captain John Fitzgerald and Australian Institute of Sport head coach Brent Larkham.

© The Australian

WhataQT
07-31-2006, 06:05 AM
No auto Open wildcard for Scud
By Paul Malone
July 29, 2006

MARK Philippoussis may have to win a play-off series against Australian players to receive a US Open wildcard - and he will have to also declare his Davis Cup availability.

Tennis Australia director of player development Craig Tiley confirmed last night that the body had secured a wildcard exchange program between the Australian and US Opens in recent talks with the US Tennis Association.

Tiley said Tennis Australia would decide closer to the US Open in New York, which starts on August 28, whether to award the male and female wildcards at Australia's disposal or invite players to a wildcard play-off series at Flushing Meadows or Forest Hills.

Philippoussis's first title in almost three years, at Newport this month, lifted his world ranking to No. 121, 32 places ahead of thirdt-ranked Australian Peter Luczak - and behind only one compatriot, Lleyton Hewitt (No. 13).

"If someone says 'I'm not playing Davis Cup, but give me a wildcard', it's not going to happen," Tiley said.

"Obviously, we can't control it if they said they are going to play Davis Cup and then pull out the day before, but we can remember it for next time around . . . I don't think that would happen."

Australia is the underdog for its Davis Cup semi-final against Argentina in Buenos Aires from September 22-24 on clay, a surface on which Philippoussis won the deciding rubber of the 1999 Davis Cup final in France.

Philippoussis will not be a direct entry into the 128-man main draw because places are held for wildcards, qualifiers and exempt players.

"It's great for the players that we have these US Open wildcards again and we want to take our time to decide the best way for Australian tennis to use them," Tiley said.



"We've had Mark Philippoussis do well and win a tournament and Alicia Molik is now back on track. They may get a couple of wins the next few weeks and if they do then we can make a selection.

"Mark won't be a direct entry, but if his ranking goes below 100 we'd consider it (not having a play-off). On the men's side, one of the considerations is we have Davis Cup and it goes into the equation."

Australia's US Open men's wildcard allocation will be decided by Tiley, Australia Davis Cup captain John Fitzgerald and Australian Institute of Sport head coach Brent Larkham.


http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,19943290-23216,00.html

flip_fan
07-31-2006, 06:17 AM
...this article really pisses me off, Mr Tiley was wrong to make such a silly assumption about mark's loyalty. Mark has made it clear all year if 100% fit he is available for DC.

This is also old news.. it was announced at the beginning of the year that the aussie's will have a play-off for the WC. If mark does well in the Vancouver Open and NY challenger this month he should be given the WC... if not then the play-off is the fair option.

ASP0315
08-01-2006, 12:20 AM
This is also old news.. it was announced at the beginning of the year that the aussie's will have a play-off for the WC. If mark does well in the Vancouver Open and NY challenger this month he should be given the WC... if not then the play-off is the fair option.

If he does well in the next three weeks and he will be definitely be given a wild card.

...this article really pisses me off, Mr Tiley was wrong to make such a silly assumption about mark's loyalty. Mark has made it clear all year if 100% fit he is available for DC.

Yeah. He dosen't like clay. I would choose Luzcak over Scud. Luzcak got a decent results on clay over the last two years. Plus he has beaten Gonzalez in Brazil(on Clay) last year. Wayne is also dangerous on any surface too. So it is better for Australia not to select Scud in DC SF.

Hawkman
08-01-2006, 12:36 AM
...this article really pisses me off, Mr Tiley was wrong to make such a silly assumption about mark's loyalty. Mark has made it clear all year if 100% fit he is available for DC.

This is also old news.. it was announced at the beginning of the year that the aussie's will have a play-off for the WC. If mark does well in the Vancouver Open and NY challenger this month he should be given the WC... if not then the play-off is the fair option.

He never made an assumption towards the Scud; he just is making the policy clear.

I'd like to see him get a WC.

CooCooCachoo
08-01-2006, 12:45 PM
I hope dudi gets a wildcard!!!

He won't. There is no reason for the USTA to hand it out :(

madmanfool
08-01-2006, 01:39 PM
He can also play qualies you know, it's not like he doesn't have a direct entry into qualies

zicofirol
08-01-2006, 02:57 PM
...this article really pisses me off, Mr Tiley was wrong to make such a silly assumption about mark's loyalty. Mark has made it clear all year if 100% fit he is available for DC.

This is also old news.. it was announced at the beginning of the year that the aussie's will have a play-off for the WC. If mark does well in the Vancouver Open and NY challenger this month he should be given the WC... if not then the play-off is the fair option.
DO the Australians have any good players coming up (between 15-20 yrs old)?

Its incredible they only have 1 top 100 player, for the tennis history of the country.

Pigpen Stinks
08-03-2006, 05:48 PM
Here are my early guesses for the Wild Card selections:

1. Aussie pick (probably Flip)
2. Querrey
3. Simmonds
4. Jenkins
5. Oudsema
6. Reynolds
7. Kuznetsov
8. Gambill
Just missing the cut - Brendan Evans

I think Querrey is the only stone cold lock. Simmonds, Jenkins and Oudsema would seem like pretty good bets considering the support they've received, their somewhat promising results, and their youth. Gambill could probably help himself most with a few more wins in the upcoming weeks. There are certainly lots of other options, but many of the other Americans ranked in the 100-300ish range are getting a bit older and/or haven't done anything special in the past to merit serious consideration. I can't think of any foreign players that might be considered.

Any other predictions?

odeeztreez
08-03-2006, 07:58 PM
who do u htink the USTA should give wildcards too?

They are OBVIOUSLY going to give them out to: Kalamazoo winner, trade with Australia, Sam Querry, Alex Kusnetov, Phill Simmonds (for some dark reason), Scovell Jenkins (same reason as Simmonds), and 2 more.

I think in contention are Wayne Odesnik, Amer Delic, Jesse Witten, Sam Wharburg

What u guys think?

rexman
08-03-2006, 08:09 PM
What is the dark reason?

Action Jackson
08-03-2006, 08:10 PM
What is the dark reason?

Cause they happen to be black.

Deboogle!.
08-03-2006, 08:11 PM
Wow :retard:

odeeztreez
08-03-2006, 08:13 PM
hey its true...the USTA is VERY political and they need some black players...seems fair huh?

Deboogle!.
08-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Maybe Sco and Phil actually have potential and the USTA sees that and because they have been fighting through futures and challengers the USTA might give them a chance at the USO? Maybe it has to do with merits and they are putting in the work? :shrug:

Nice way to introduce yourself to MTF :o

robinhood
08-03-2006, 08:57 PM
Cause they happen to be black.

:eek:
I thought it was dark because they didn't deserve the WC.

Then I hope to see some half-dark, yellowish, etc. reasons in the future.

mongo
08-03-2006, 09:00 PM
Ryan Sweeting

Pigpen Stinks
08-03-2006, 09:09 PM
Actually posted my thoughts on this on the US Open tournament page earlier today. I had Querrey, Simmonds, Jenkins, Oudsema, Reynolds, Kuznetsov and Gambill but I forgot to take into account the 18's champ. I had Brendan Evans just missing the cut.

gusman890
08-03-2006, 09:30 PM
Querrey is probally going to get one since he is playing the best among the up and comers.

and with the aussies...i have no idea.

DY isnt going to get one, im pretty sure.

DrJules
08-03-2006, 09:46 PM
Any possibility that Marat Safin may require a wild card?

Deboogle!.
08-03-2006, 09:47 PM
Any possibility that Marat Safin may require a wild card?Nope he's in, the entry list closed several weeks ago and Marat is safely in the top 100. you can look at the list in the USO tourney Forum :)

SHB
08-03-2006, 10:04 PM
Don't forget that the winner of the USTA National Hard Court Championships next weekend gets an automatic wild card into the U.S. Open. Donald Young won it last year and is the top seed this year (Jenkins won it in 2004). Tim Smyczek, Jesse Levine, and Marcus Fugate are a few of the other favorites.

Querrey's the only lock, but Kuznetsov is a very strong bet after winning a challenger two weeks ago and vaulting into the top 300. He's been consistently solid all year. Plus, he's still only 19, and if not for his car accident last year would probably be ranked quite a bit higher.

Jenkins and Simmonds are decent bets, although both have had disappointing years. Neither has taken the step forward that was expected. Jenkins is a stronger candidate based on his good play in the U.S. Open last year.

Oudsema's chances may have taken a hit after being demolished by Kevin Kim this week, although he did reach the second round in L.A. and took a set off of Roddick. He'll probably get one.

I hope that Brendan Evans gets one. I still think he has a chance to be pretty good. He reached the semis in Lexington last week. If it comes down to him or Oudsema, I hope Evans gets the nod.

If an older player receives a wild card, it'll probably be Reynolds or Kendrick. Gambill will have to play well in the next few weeks to make a case for himself.

If Donald Young doesn't win the Nationals, there's an outside possibility that he could get one. Ryan Sweeting is another dark horse. He won the U.S. Junior Open last year and just reached the second round in Washington after qualifying for the tournament. From what I've read, he has the game to be competitive.

odeeztreez
08-03-2006, 10:09 PM
ok maybe scovell and simmonds have been fighting it out...but u tend to forget the fact that jenkins got a wc the last TWO years..and simmonds has done SHIT this year

Bobby Reynolds has lost A MILLION first rounds in a row this year..and Evans hasnt done SHIT either...as far as Gambill goes im not even gonna touch that one...he is now a veteren and deserves no more help..he had his shot

Oudsema ok ill give u that one...he is still young...and the only reason Querry is doing so well is that he has been given like a million WCs this yera just like delic did when he turned pro

Meanwhile Odesnik has been the ONLY one representing the USA in europe and has won a challenger on CLAY...and has moved up over 100 spots in the past 3 months...but thats ese to forget right?

Some people just go with the media...unbelievable...what about Jesse Witten...Zack Fleishman...althought they may be old they still have moved up significantly and deserve a lil help too

odeeztreez
08-03-2006, 10:17 PM
i cant believe none of you recognize Wayne Odesnik...he has beatin Querry TWICE this year...and has moved up into the top 200 and is playing phenominal tennis...granted he has spent the summer on red clay...but its not like the USA needs a clay player...seems like they got that covered (sarcasam for those of you who dont get it)

and i cant believe u guys think Evans, and Reynolds , and Gambill deserve a WC. Tell me one thing they have done this year besides Evans getting to the semis in Lexington (which by the way the cut was 1000 something...it was about as tough as a regular futures)

SHB
08-03-2006, 11:09 PM
I forgot about Odesnik. He should certainly be in the mix. As for his clay court aptitude, it's not particularly relevant since this is a hard court tournament. But based on his body of work and age, you can make a strong case for him. (By the way, he's only beaten Querrey once this year -- the other match was in November. Besides, Querrey has taken his game to another level in the past couple months.)

For the record, I don't think Gambill or Evans *deserves* a wild card, but I don't always want the more deserving player to get the wild card. If the end goal was to always have the most deserving players get in, you wouldn't even have wild cards -- you'd just go straight by the rankings. Reynolds, you could argue, is more deserving than Odesnik based on his ranking, despite not being quite as good this year. I have no great desire to see Gambill or Reynolds get a wild card, but Evans interests me because he still has some upside. While he hasn't had a stellar year by any means, he has done more than you suggest: semifinal in Lexington, quarterfinal in Tallahassee, win in F12, finals appearance in F4, and semifinal appearances in F10 and F13. He also advanced to the final round of qualifying in Indianapolis and Newport. Overall, he's played pretty well recently.

R.Federer
08-03-2006, 11:45 PM
Hey, Scoville did himself proud last year at the USO. He should get one regardless of whether he's black white purple etc

cartmancop
08-03-2006, 11:54 PM
What about Donald Young? Not saying he deserves it, but I'm willing to bet that he'll get one... He'll probably win the 18s if he plays it though, so then it won't take one away from one of the others listed.

Querrey and Oudsema will both get one I think. Scoville played well last year, he should get one I think. They need to stop giving repeated WCs to players who lose in the 1R every year though (the middle age americans who haven't and won't do anything special)

robrulz5
08-04-2006, 12:02 AM
I've seen Jenkins play a couple of times and he looks to be an alright player.

IDJ49
08-04-2006, 12:14 AM
I believe Robert Kendrick is in the running for a wildcard.

Pigpen Stinks
08-04-2006, 01:04 AM
I've been impressed by Odesnik and Witten in particular. Don't agree about Simmonds. He had good results in the Spring. Not listing what players I think should get wild cards, just the ones that I think will get them. Yes, SHB, I did forget about the 18's winner.

odeeztreez
08-04-2006, 02:27 AM
well since u have seen jenkins play i feel a lot better....and now i think he deserves a WC (ass!)

The point is: that the USTA only helps those players who they feel will benefit them in the long run and not those players who are actually good and have potential and can benefit the USA and the USTA in the long run. If they cant help them now then they offer NO help.
I.E. Brendan Evans- was supposed to be the next Roddick b/c he was tall, blond, and goodlooking. Looks like he has lived up to that one! Cant even make the US Open qualies cut.

And besides Odesnik, and Witten. What about Alex Bogamolov. Talk about someone who has proven themsleves time and time again. But once again he isnt that marketable, but then again neither was Pete Sampras in the beginning. UNTIL HE STARTED WINNING!!!!!!!!!

Mistaflava
08-04-2006, 02:29 AM
Hope Scoville can do well...

odeeztreez
08-04-2006, 02:38 AM
The point i was making about Odesnik playing clay all summer is that the USTA doesnt really hold as much weight on it as they should. I mean you gotta look at it from a career standpoint. If you could win on a particular surface and its easier to get points that way and make $ what would u do? The USTA doesnt really care, which is wrong in my view.
And i agree that not everyone should particulary deserve a WC. But i dont agree with them giving them away to people that really havent had any success this year. I.E. Bobby Reynolds and Brendan Evans. The point of the WC should be to help those players who actually have a chance of doing something with them, and belong at that level of play, but just arent there yet. in other words, a WC should be a catalyst. Not another chance at glory for those who have already had that chance.

And maybe Querry has moved his game up a bit, but so has Odesnik who i saw play in Milan when he won last month. He really came back in the finals and showed a level of play that could match ANYONE in the top 100. Just saying my $ would be on Odesnik if he were to play Querry, except on grass. Hard or clay he would dominate!

SHB
08-04-2006, 03:44 AM
He would dominate Querrey on hard court? Come on now. No one's buying what you're sellin'. He didn't dominate when they played in March. It took him three sets to win, and Querrey actually won more games in that match.

Glad to hear that Odesnik is looking good, though. I see that he's advanced to the quarterfials this week. If he can get a win there, I'd say he'd be close to a lock to get a WC. And it sure would be nice to have a competent clay court player for a change. I think the USTA would love to have a clay court specialist, by the way. The question is, do you give a clay court specialist a WC at a hard court tournament? Odesnik has had some good results on hard court, so in this case, the answer may well be yes.

For the most part, I agree with you about wild cards. I like to see young guys get them. That's why I wouldn't mind Evans getting one. He's a young player with some untapped potential.

Reynolds' year, by the way, has not been that much worse than Odesnik's. You're overstating your case there. Regardless, I'd rather Odesnik get a WC than Reynolds.

Grinder
08-04-2006, 03:50 AM
Odesnik's a grinder aided by lefty spin, he's like a poor man's Vinciguerra, he has some upside still and his results on clay have been promising, but I still think Sam would swat him aside if they played now. He bageled Wayne in his most recent loss to him and I think it would be an easy 6-4 6-3 type win for Sam, he could hit through him easily. I think the wildcards will be:

1. Aussie Wildcard
2. Kalamazoo Winner
3. Sam Querrey
4. Phillip Simmonds
5. Scoville Jenkins
6. Scott Oudsema
7. Brendan Evans
8. Alex Kuznetsov (maybe)...could also be Ryan Sweeting, Nikita Kryvonos, Tim Neilly, Marcus Fugate, Tim Smyczek, Wayne Odesnik

Fee
08-04-2006, 07:29 AM
The USTA has six wildcards to give, in addition to the card reserved for Aus and the spot reserved for the Kalamazoo winner. They won't make the final decision on those cards until after the Bronx and Binghamton Challengers are over. This year is one of the toughest years they have to make the decision because no one has really stood out and caught attention like a few players did last year. Sam will get one because he is playing well and has made some noise with the WC's he has received since he turned pro in May. Warburg? I don't think so, the USTA doesn't seem to like guys who went to college much. Jan-Mike has not requested one yet and he's not sure if he will. If he does, he'll have to put up a few more results to show that he is strong enough to finish a five set match and I'm just not sure he's there yet. Wayne needs to get back to the US and play some hardcourt tournaments if he wants to get attention. Nice that he was winning matches in Europe, but I wonder if anyone noticed. The next two Challenger tournaments might give us a better idea of who is still in the running for these 6 spots.

mr_burns
08-04-2006, 09:52 AM
Gambill will get one, Young another
For Australia, OMG they have no talents..It will lead to Scud, but they will have a play out, right

What about Dent, is he in?

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2006, 10:50 AM
Odesnik does not deserve one. What a horrible player that is :o A poor man's Vinciguerra sounds about right.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2006, 10:51 AM
Also, Jenkins and Simmonds haven't been doing much, unfortunately.

I really hope Kuznetsov gets one over them.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2006, 11:03 AM
Kendrick deserves one.

Hopefully Kuznetsov gets one. Sweeting seems a logical choice. Evans too, and Oudsema.

Really, I don't think Simmonds should get one, seeing as he has had a very bad year. The same goes for Jenkins, but at least he had a good performance last year to possibly warrant a WC this year.

Reynolds? I hope not.

And Odesnik is not a crafty player and would lose to most players in straight sets, in my humble opinion. He is frankly the worst Top 300 player I have seen in my life.

CooCooCachoo
08-04-2006, 11:04 AM
Gambill will get one, Young another
For Australia, OMG they have no talents..It will lead to Scud, but they will have a play out, right

What about Dent, is he in?

Nathan Healey is still very dangerous on this kind of surface. He could take Philippoussis to tie-breaks and win them.

odeeztreez
08-04-2006, 05:14 PM
Odesnik does not deserve one. What a horrible player that is :o A poor man's Vinciguerra sounds about right.


like i said before who the hell r u to say that. I think he is one of the best players that the US has, and within the next year he will be top 100 FOR SURE!!!!!!!!!!!

Pigpen Stinks
08-04-2006, 05:25 PM
I saw Odesnik play in person last year. Nice game, but does he have any real weapons? Some guys can make it into the top 100 or even higher without anything special, but it's increasingly become the exception to the rule.

odeeztreez
08-04-2006, 06:04 PM
I agree that most guys cannot make it without any certain "weapons". But realize that u saw him play last year, i only saw him play this year in a final and he really impressed me. I havent seen him play on hard latley, as you should know that it is hard to demonstrate "weopons" on red clay.
U could argue that his weapon is his spin on his forehand, and his ground game in general. But i do agree that he needs a lot of work on his net game, especially if he wants to win on hard courts this season. But nevertheless i still maintain that he is one of the best out of the younger players and belongs in the top 100, and will be there soon enough.

odeeztreez
08-04-2006, 08:26 PM
Kendrick deserves one.

Hopefully Kuznetsov gets one. Sweeting seems a logical choice. Evans too, and Oudsema.

Really, I don't think Simmonds should get one, seeing as he has had a very bad year. The same goes for Jenkins, but at least he had a good performance last year to possibly warrant a WC this year.

Reynolds? I hope not.

And Odesnik is not a crafty player and would lose to most players in straight sets, in my humble opinion. He is frankly the worst Top 300 player I have seen in my life.

u cant back up that ignorant opinion of yours on Odesnik. If you could maybe you would hvae some credit, but instead you sound like someone who has a hard on for him. At least back yourself up. Moron!

mongo
08-04-2006, 08:44 PM
and the only reason Querry is doing so well is that he has been given like a million WCs this yera just like delic did when he turned pro

You're talking out of your ass.

L.A. Times
July 11, 2006

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-querrey11jul11,1,6329381.story?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true

"Querrey on Sunday collected his second victory in three tournaments since turning pro last month. This time it was the $50,000 USTA North Shore Pro Tennis Championships, a challenger tournament in Winnetka, Ill., in which he beat Andrea Stoppini of Italy in the final, 6-2, 6-3...

http://www.atptennis.com/en/tournaments/eventhistory/draws.asp?TournamentID=228&TournamentYear=2006

...Querrey, has had a startling climb in the rankings, jumping from No. 1,146 to No. 207 in less than a year...

Within days of turning pro, Querrey made his presence felt, winning the $50,000 Sunset-Moulding Yuba City Racquet Club Challenger. USTA officials could not recall a challenger-level tournament — one step below the ATP tour — ever being won by a player in his debut."

http://www.atptennis.com/en/tournaments/eventhistory/draws.asp?TournamentID=2212&TournamentYear=2006

odeeztreez
08-04-2006, 08:46 PM
The USTA has six wildcards to give, in addition to the card reserved for Aus and the spot reserved for the Kalamazoo winner. They won't make the final decision on those cards until after the Bronx and Binghamton Challengers are over. This year is one of the toughest years they have to make the decision because no one has really stood out and caught attention like a few players did last year. Sam will get one because he is playing well and has made some noise with the WC's he has received since he turned pro in May. Warburg? I don't think so, the USTA doesn't seem to like guys who went to college much. Jan-Mike has not requested one yet and he's not sure if he will. If he does, he'll have to put up a few more results to show that he is strong enough to finish a five set match and I'm just not sure he's there yet. Wayne needs to get back to the US and play some hardcourt tournaments if he wants to get attention. Nice that he was winning matches in Europe, but I wonder if anyone noticed. The next two Challenger tournaments might give us a better idea of who is still in the running for these 6 spots.


This is a very thought out, and intelligent statement Fee. I agree with everything said, and would like to add that Oudsema will almost also be a shoe in not so much b/c of his results, but b/c of his game style and the fact that he is still rather young. The fact that Odesnik is in Europe rather than in the USA should hold little weight when it comes to WC choices, except for the fact that yes he is playing on clay, but from what i heard when i spoke to his coach in Milan is that he feels Wayne can make an easy transition b/c of his game style. But i guess we will have to wait and see. But like you said a lot can happen in the next 2 weeks and it should give a better idea.

CooCooCachoo
08-05-2006, 04:38 PM
u cant back up that ignorant opinion of yours on Odesnik. If you could maybe you would hvae some credit, but instead you sound like someone who has a hard on for him. At least back yourself up. Moron!

My own eyes are all I need :shrug:

If you were there in Scheveningen and Amersfoort, you would have been completely flabbergasted too. He generates no pace and was being outhit by Dutch juniors that have trouble standing their ground at the moment.

CooCooCachoo
08-05-2006, 04:39 PM
Kendrick might slightly deserve one, but I hope he doesn't get one. Meh.

I hope Kuznetsov, Sweeting, and Evans get one... Oudsema maybe... but he was totally spanked in D.C. and really isn't all that great.

I'd love for Tim Smyczek to get one, but I don't see that happening. Maybe he and Kuz can get a doubles WC or something. :D

There aren't that many that really deserve them :shrug: If Young gets one I'll puke.

I don't like Kendrick either ;) But he has done well for himself this year. It's been a good comeback.

SHB
08-06-2006, 07:26 PM
ok maybe scovell and simmonds have been fighting it out...but u tend to forget the fact that jenkins got a wc the last TWO years..and simmonds has done SHIT this year

Bobby Reynolds has lost A MILLION first rounds in a row this year..and Evans hasnt done SHIT either...as far as Gambill goes im not even gonna touch that one...he is now a veteren and deserves no more help..he had his shot

Oudsema ok ill give u that one...he is still young...and the only reason Querry is doing so well is that he has been given like a million WCs this yera just like delic did when he turned pro

Meanwhile Odesnik has been the ONLY one representing the USA in europe and has won a challenger on CLAY...and has moved up over 100 spots in the past 3 months...but thats ese to forget right?

Some people just go with the media...unbelievable...what about Jesse Witten...Zack Fleishman...althought they may be old they still have moved up significantly and deserve a lil help too

Wow, your pro-Odesnik bias knows no bounds. First of all, Odesnik has moved up about 40 spots in the past three months. He's moved up about 70 since early January. Querrey, on the other hand, has moved up about 180 spots in the past three months and 430 spots since early January. Your facts are just a wee bit off there. Any way you look at it, Querrey is the better choice for a WC. He's two years younger, he has significantly more upside, his game is better suited for hard courts, his results have been much better recently, and he has a higher ranking. On what basis is Odesnik more deserving of a wild card? The fact that he beat Querrey back in March in three sets? If that's what your argument rests on, you're in trouble. Aside from Odesnik's relatives and close friends, you've got to be the only person remaining who thinks that Odesnik is better than Querrey (or at least more worthy of a WC).

And WCs are hardly the only reason Querrey is doing as well as he is. As has already been mentioned, he's won two challengers in the past two months (the first and only two challengers he's played since turning pro). Those wins were partly why he received the WCs in the first place. Furthermore, he proved worthy of those WCs by winning three first round matches and barely losing his fourth. I doubt that Odesnik would have had similar results.

As for Scoville and Simmonds, their race is hardly the only or primary reason why they would receive WCs. I won't naively insist that the USTA wouldn't like to see some black players succeed to generate interest and inspire others the black community to take up the game, but they're not going to hand WCs to just any black player. While they haven't had very good years, Jenkins and Simmonds are solid young players (19 and 20 years old, respectively) who still have the potential to make an impact on the tour. If they were 26, as Fleishman is, or even 23, as Witten is, there would be far less interest in them. The USTA is mainly interested in helping out young Americans with potential, and Jenkins and Simmonds do meet that criteria. And Jenkins' respectable performance in the U.S. Open last year is actually why he might receive a WC despite somewhat poor results this year. He showed promise.

You continue to overstate your case about Reynolds. He won a first round match in London in June. He's also had three SF appearances in challengers and one QF appearance. I'm not sure why you're so vehemently opposed to him while at the same time endorsing Fleishman. Fleishman is two years older, ranked lower, and has actually been worse than Reynolds since April. Overall, his year has maybe (and I mean MAYBE) been slightly better than Reynolds due to the one challenger win, but it's a small difference. And when you factor in age . . .

And Witten's only a few months younger than Reynolds. I guess I'd prefer to see Witten get the WC since he's had a little better year, but I wouldn't be particularly thrilled about either getting one. If you really want to give one to a 24-year-old, then you should take a close look at Amer Delic.

Fee
08-08-2006, 05:19 AM
Last year's wild cards:
James Blake (Tampa, Fla.),
Mark Philippoussis (Australia),
Jan-Michael Gambill (Colbert, Wash.)
Brian Baker (Nashville, Tenn.),
Scoville Jenkins (Atlanta),
Rajeev Ram (Carmel, Ind.),
Bobby Reynolds (Acworth, Ga.)
Donald Young (Fairburn, Ga.)

Some middlin ranked American players...

142 Reynolds, Bobby (USA)
149 Delic, Amer (USA)
156 Kendrick, Robert (USA)
158 Dent, Taylor (USA)
173 Morrison, Jeff (USA)
179 Querrey, Sam (USA)
183 Odesnik, Wayne (USA)
189 Witten, Jesse (USA)
190 Bogomolov Jr., Alex (USA)
196 Russell, Michael (USA)
199 Fleishman, Zack (USA)
200 Widom, Todd (USA)
204 Armando, Hugo (USA)
234 Vahaly, Brian (USA)
236 Simmonds, Phillip (USA)
249 Weiner, Glenn (USA)
250 Warburg, Sam (USA)
259 Jenkins, Scoville (USA)
265 Ram, Rajeev (USA)
269 Nunez, Eric (USA)
270 Kuznetsov, Alex (USA)
283 Fruttero, John Paul (USA)
305 Joseph, Lesley (USA)
319 Monroe, Nick (USA)
327 Wilson, Brian (USA)
331 Yani, Michael (USA)
335 Evans, Brendan (USA)
345 Oudsema, Scott (USA)
347 King, Phillip (USA)
351 Cleveland, Tyler (USA)
382 Lipsky, Scott (USA)
413 Salzenstein, Jeff (USA)
420 Gambill, Jan-Michael (USA)

So, I'm leaning towards... (trying to think like the USTA)

Aus wildcard
Kalamazoo winner
Sam Querrey
Robert Kendrick
Alex Kuznetsov
Scott Oudsema

Jan-Mike might ask for one and get it by pulling the 'I've done everything you ever asked of me' card on the USTA (he's never missed an autograph session and every tournament director will vouch for him on that). So that leaves one, and it could go to Reynolds, or it could go to Odesnik (who is playing in South America next week, not the Bronx Challenger). Personally, I think Amer should get one, but I doubt they will give it to him. The other guys might have to settle for wildcards into qualies if they aren't getting direct entry.

NyGeL
08-08-2006, 05:57 AM
I think they'll go to:

Kendrick
Reynolds
Querrey
Young
Jenkins
JM Gambill / Weiner / Kuznetsov

Scotso
08-08-2006, 06:16 AM
Why was my post here deleted? Weird.

Scotso
08-08-2006, 06:17 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=3912659&postcount=51

my post is in there in any case.

Grinder
08-08-2006, 06:47 AM
Kendrick deserves one.

Hopefully Kuznetsov gets one. Sweeting seems a logical choice. Evans too, and Oudsema.

Really, I don't think Simmonds should get one, seeing as he has had a very bad year. The same goes for Jenkins, but at least he had a good performance last year to possibly warrant a WC this year.

Simmonds has won a challenger this year and made it to the final of another, Sweeting, Evans, and Oudsema haven't done anything even close. All Sweeting and Oudsema have going for them is winning a single ATP match...

Mistaflava
08-08-2006, 06:56 AM
Jenkins hasn't developped into the Monster that he has the potential to be. Sad to see such talent completely wasted...

CooCooCachoo
08-08-2006, 12:35 PM
Simmonds has won a challenger this year and made it to the final of another, Sweeting, Evans, and Oudsema haven't done anything even close. All Sweeting and Oudsema have going for them is winning a single ATP match...

Yes, he has won the Léon Challenger, which had a decent field, but there are mostly early losses to add to that. He won a Future in January, but the field there was far from good (beating Fugate, Obradovic, Wurtzman, Wilson and Miranda). I fail to see what other final he reached. I just don't think it is that special.

Scotso
08-09-2006, 04:34 AM
Simmonds has won a challenger this year and made it to the final of another, Sweeting, Evans, and Oudsema haven't done anything even close. All Sweeting and Oudsema have going for them is winning a single ATP match...

Sweeting is a far better player than Simmonds.

Grinder
08-09-2006, 05:00 AM
Sweeting is a far better player than Simmonds.

:bs:

revolution
08-09-2006, 01:46 PM
Scud or Xristos to get the Aussie WC no question.

Pigpen Stinks
08-11-2006, 11:18 PM
Looks like Oudsema might be sewing up his wild card with a strong showing in Binghamton this week.

binkygirl
08-12-2006, 04:03 AM
DO the Australians have any good players coming up (between 15-20 yrs old)?

Its incredible they only have 1 top 100 player, for the tennis history of the country.


Guccione is working on it. He was supposed to be the successor to Lleyton. What has happened to Australia's developmental program?

Flip shouldn't get the wild card. He's had his opportunities in the sport professionally and has managed to blow all of them (to the disgust of coaches, fans, and his own tennis federation!). He chose to waste his talent, so its off to the qualies for him.

The Newport tournament is the Mickey Mouse tournament of the ATP tour and has been ever since I can remember!

binkygirl
08-12-2006, 04:05 AM
Ryan Sweeting

Good one.

When did the USTA stop giving the Boys 18 champions an automatic wild card into the US Open main draw? I liked that tradition.

Pigpen Stinks
08-12-2006, 03:20 PM
I think they still do, binky. They also used to give the NCAA singles champ a wild card, but they stopped that a few years back. I guess that was due to the influx of foreign players that started to dominate the college ranks.

SHB
08-12-2006, 08:51 PM
When did the USTA stop giving the Boys 18 champions an automatic wild card into the US Open main draw? I liked that tradition.

The tradition is alive and well, and the recipient will either be Donald Young or Jesse Levine. They play in the final tomorrow.

usmensfan
08-12-2006, 10:34 PM
New here whats up to everyone. If i was deciding this is who id give Md WCs
Wcs
1. Aussie
2. Jessie Levine (my pic 2 win the 18s)
3. Scott Oudsema ( md win on tour and the final in binghampton probably secured )
4. Alex Kuznetsov
5. Robert Kendrick
6. Sam Querrey
7. Amer Delic ( i see it as Odesnik, simmonds, witten, evans, jenkins or young for this last WC)
8. Phillip Simmonds ( i see it as Odesnik, simmonds, witten, evans, jenkins or young for this last WC)
This puts 16 americans in the MD
So in qualies this year wed have a ton of guys, I could see like 8 making it out.
Americans in QUalifying
1. Bobby Reynolds
2. Alex Bogomolov
3. Scoville Jenkins
4. Jesse Witten
5. Sam Warburg
6. Glen Weiner
7. Zack Fleishman
8. Jan Mike
9. JEff Salzenstein
10. Wayne Odesnik
11. Todd Widom
12. JP Fruttero
13. Jeff Morrison
14. Brian Vahaly
15. MiChael Russel
16. Rajeev Ram
they should get in on their rank
17. Wc Donald Young (no matter what anyone says are top junior in the ranks)
18. Wc Tim Smycek (top 4 finish at nationals)
19. Wc Ryan Sweeting
20. Wc Brendan Evans
21. Wc Phillip King
22. WC Brian Wilson
23. WC Lesley Joseph
24. WC Michael Yani
25. WC John Isner
If the usta goes with youngsters over any of these last 4 id bet Marcus Fugate, Kellen Damico, Alex Clayton and possibly Nikita Kryvonas since he is from flushing
Alot of players capable of winning 3 Qualies matches in my opinion
Eric Nunez might sneak in qualies on his own

Fee
08-13-2006, 01:39 AM
Here are the US players in the qualie entry list:
19 Reynolds, Bobby USA 127
45 Kendrick, Robert USA 156 - main draw WC?
51 Morrison, Jeff USA 170
56 Delic, Amer USA 177
61 Querrey, Sam USA 182 - good bet for a main draw WC
64 Fleishman, Zack USA 187
66 Bogomolov Jr., Alex USA 189
69 Odesnik, Wayne USA 192
72 Witten, Jesse USA 195
73 Gambill, Jan-Michael USA @195 - injured, 50/50 to play at this time
74 Russell, Michael USA 196
76 Salzenstein, Jeff USA @198
81 Widom, Todd USA 203
84 Armando, Hugo USA 206
96 Fruttero, John Paul USA 220
102 Vahaly, Brian USA 229
110 Simmonds, Phillip USA 241
120 (WC)
121 (WC)
122 (WC)
123 (WC)
124 (WC)
125 (WC)
126 (WC)
127 (WC)
128 (WC)

Alternates
1. Warburg, Sam USA 254 - will get in to qualies as the list moves
2. Jenkins, Scoville USA 255 - same
5. Weiner, Glenn USA 259 - same
8. Ram, Rajeev USA 263
17. Nunez, Eric USA 275

Okay, so Young will either win a main draw WC in the Zoo finals, or a qualie wild card as the runner up. That takes care of him either way. Scoville may not get a main draw wildcard this year because his results have not been as good. I'd say that Clayton, Kuznetsov and Sweeting are sure bets for qualie wildcards, but maybe not main draw because winning one ATP match isn't enough. Oudsema could go either way.

I thought that might clear it up, but now I'm more confused than ever. :lol:

Scotso
08-13-2006, 04:46 AM
I like Amer, but I kind of feel like he's had his chance before :shrug: They should spread the love a little.

Sweeting deserves a WC over Oudsema from what I saw of the two of them.

I don't like Kendrick but for some reason, losing to Nadal seems to give him one. :shrug:

Scotso
08-13-2006, 04:48 AM
Smyczek better get at least a Qualifying WC :mad:

usmensfan
08-13-2006, 08:22 PM
Donaly Young has the Usta WC dont know why Jesse Levine withdrew. shame i think he wouldve beat young. Young also won the doubles with Alex Clayton

SHB
08-13-2006, 09:38 PM
Levine was ill according to the web site. You hate to see a great tournament end like that.

SHB
08-13-2006, 09:48 PM
Oudsema won the Binghamton challenger, pretty much ensuring that he'll get a WC. He'll now be ranked around 260.

NyGeL
08-14-2006, 02:19 AM
Levine was ill according to the web site. You hate to see a great tournament end like that.

everybody know that Nike or Young's dad pay him to be ill.

usmensfan
08-14-2006, 06:50 AM
Scott Oudsema def should have the a WC now. I think he got screwed out of a qualies wc last year. So big step up for him this year. I think the USTA should give a MD to Jesse Levine.

CooCooCachoo
08-16-2006, 06:40 AM
Sam Querrey just guaranteed himself a MD WC, I would think, by taking a set off Nadal.

Scotso
08-17-2006, 03:31 AM
The womens' WCs have been announced.... so what about the men?

flip_fan
08-17-2006, 10:53 AM
mark got the aussie WC.

smucav
08-17-2006, 10:30 PM
http://www.atptennis.com/1/en/newsandscores/news/usopen_wildcards.asp
US OPEN
WILD CARDS
August 17, 2006
US Open Wild Cards Accounced

The USTA today announced that a talented group of young Americans consisting of Scoville Jenkins (Atlanta), Alex Kuznetsov (Richboro, Pa.), Wayne Odesnik (Weston, Fla.), Sam Querrey (Thousand Oaks, Calif.), Phillip Simmonds (Reston, Va.), Ryan Sweeting (Fort Lauderdale) and Donald Young (Atlanta), as well as Mark Philippoussis of Australia, have been awarded men's singles main draw wild card entries into the 2006 US Open, to be played Aug. 28-Sep. 10.

The US Open Men's Singles Championship is presented by Lexus. Both the men's and women's US Open singles champions will earn $1.2 million with the ability to earn an additional $1 million in bonus prize money (for a total $2.2 million potential payout) based on their performances in the US Open Series.

Jenkins, 20, is currently ranked No. 265 in the world. He reached the second round at the 2005 US Open, defeating George Bastl in a fifth set tiebreak after a 4 ½ hour marathon, before losing to No. 2 seed Rafael Nadal. Jenkins won his first pro singles title at a $10,000 event in Kissimmee, Fla., in January. He also reached the second round as a qualifier at the U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships in Houston in April, and reached the semifinals of a $50,000 challenger in Winnetka, Ill., in July. Jenkins won the 2004 USTA Boys' 18s National Championship.

Kuznetsov, 19, is currently ranked No. 272 in the world. He improved his ranking over 130 places in one week after winning his first pro singles title at a $75,000 challenger in Aptos, Calif. in July. In 2005, Kuznetsov began the year strong, reaching two Futures finals before suffering a broken leg in a car crash in late May. He was the 2004 French Open boys' singles runner-up.

Odesnik, 20, is currently ranked No. 185 in the world. He has won seven career Futures titles in 13 final appearances, including consecutive titles at $15,000 events in Little Rock, Ark., and Mobile, Ala., in March. Odesnik also won in consecutive weeks at $15,000 events in Waikoloa, Hawaii and Honolulu in November. He improved his year-end ranking for the fourth consecutive year in 2005.

Philippoussis, 29, is currently ranked No. 112 in the world. He has been ranked as high as No. 8 and reached the final at the 1998 US Open and 2003 Wimbledon. Philippoussis has played only nine tour-level events this year due to injury and won his 11th career ATP title at Newport in July. His wild card is part of a reciprocal arrangement with Tennis Australia, which will grant a men's singles main draw wild card into the 2007 Australian Open to a player designated by the USTA.

Querrey, 18, is currently ranked a career-high No. 178 in the world after beginning the year at No. 756. The 6'6" teenager won two singles titles in his first three events played since turning pro in June, beginning with a victory at his pro debut at a $50,000 challenger in Yuba City, Calif. He also won a $50,000 challenger in Winnetka, Ill., in July before winning first round matches in consecutive ATP events in Newport, Indianapolis and Los Angeles.

Simmonds, 20, is currently ranked No. 240 in the world. He won his first pro singles title at a $10,000 event in Boca Raton, Fla. in January, and also won a $25,000 challenger in Mexico in April. In October, he reached his first pro singles final at a $50,000 challenger in Sacramento, Calif. He won the 2003 Australian Open boys' doubles title with Scott Oudsema.

Sweeting, 19, is currently ranked No. 557 in the world and is the reigning US Open boys' singles champion. He won his first pro singles title at a $10,000 event in Vero Beach, Fla. in May, and reached the semifinals at Futures events in Buffalo, N.Y., and Peoria, Ill. this summer. Sweeting reached the second round in his tour-level debut this month in Washington, D.C., defeating Justin Gimelstob in the first round before losing to eventual champion Arnaud Clement of France.

Young, 17, earned his wild card by successfully defending his title at the 2006 USTA Boys' 18s National Championship last weekend in Kalamazoo, Mich. He finished 2005 as the world's No. 1 ranked junior, the youngest ever to accomplish that feat at 16 years, 5 months. He was the 2005 Australian Open boys' singles champion. Young is currently ranked No. 573 in the world.

In addition to the eight US Open men's singles main draw wild cards, the USTA also announced the nine men who have been awarded wild card entries into the US Open Qualifying Tournament, which will be held August 22-25 at the USTA National Tennis Center.

Six of the nine qualifying wild card recipients are age 20 or younger.

Players receiving US Open qualifying wild cards are: Ryler De Heart (22, Tampa, Fla.), Brendan Evans (20, Key Biscayne, Fla.), Marcus Fugate (18, Fairport, N.Y.), Nikita Kryvonos (19, Flushing, N.Y.), Jesse Levine (18, Boca Raton, Fla.), Scott Oudsema (20, Kalamazoo, Mich.), Rajeev Ram (22, Carmel, Ind.), Tim Smyczek (18, Hales Corners, Wisc.), and Robert Yim (21, Glendale, Calif.).

The 2006 US Open will mark the culmination of the US Open Series, the six-week summer tennis season linking all major ATP and Sony Ericsson WTA Tour tournaments in North America to the US Open. The US Open is the highest attended annual sporting event in the world. More than 87 million viewers watched the 2005 US Open on CBS Sports and USA Network, and international broadcasts reached 184 countries.

usmensfan
08-17-2006, 11:09 PM
im shocked they didnt give it to Scott. He got screwed last year out of a qualies when he deserved now this year out of MD

usmensfan
08-17-2006, 11:22 PM
Following usa players sometimes i get so fuckin frustrated with the usta. fuck them. Wonder who will get the qualie wc that opens up now that Rajeev Ram will get in on his own. Hope it goes to Brian wilson or phillip king. Usta def screwed Robert Kendrick and scott oudsema. Scott won the challenger in NY leading up to the Open.

Scotso
08-17-2006, 11:58 PM
Scoville is the only one I really have to roll my eyes at.

Alex, Wayne, Sam, Ryan, Brendan, Nikita, Jesse, Scott, Tim :D :yeah:

Scotso
08-19-2006, 09:19 PM
:bs:

He proved it today.