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Who is the best player in the history

Mane
01-26-2004, 04:23 PM
1.Sampras
2.Borg
3.Agassi
4.Laver
5.Emerson
6.Lendl
7.Mcenroe
8.Perry
9.others

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 04:24 PM
I think it's Sampras.

MisterQ
01-26-2004, 04:26 PM
I think it's Borg.

But there are very strong cases for Sampras and Laver as well, and it's hard to argue with those too.

Definitely one of those three though.

Aphex
01-26-2004, 04:27 PM
Rod Laver. 'Cause he won the big kahuna twice.

soink2
01-26-2004, 05:13 PM
Bobby Riggs!!!!!!!

Scotso
01-26-2004, 05:53 PM
Who in Sampras' time really troubled him? And is it really that impressive to just win the same tournament a billion times? I like Sampras and I agree that he was a great player, but I think Laver was better.

Nan Cu
01-26-2004, 09:12 PM
A few guys, but they either were constantly injured, disinterested, or head cases.

Havok
01-26-2004, 09:52 PM
bope. i would have to see them play in their generation to vote. so i didn't :p

andylover_16
01-27-2004, 12:58 AM
steffi graff;)...i am allowed to say a womens player right...i think sampras is great too:D

WyverN
01-27-2004, 01:07 AM
How can you compare someone like Laver and Sampras when they played 40 years apart.
It is impossible to tell

TennisLurker
01-27-2004, 01:27 AM
Borg Sampras and Lendl.

tennisvideos
01-27-2004, 07:17 AM
Ken Rosewall ... couldn't play the Grand Slams for 11 years (that's 44 Slams he missed during his peak years) and yet he still won 8 Grand Slam singles titles.

He won 4 before he turned pro in 1957 (age 23) and won 4 more after being able to return to the tour in 1968 (at the age of 34). He also won a heap of World Pro Championships (against the true best players in the world during the 60s - Laver, Gonzales et all).

rogicomel
01-27-2004, 08:09 AM
Borg for winning RG and Wimbledon in the same year.

Mimi
01-27-2004, 10:14 AM
sampras :wavey:

fed_rad
01-27-2004, 01:35 PM
sampras and borg

star
01-27-2004, 02:56 PM
Laver.

Hands down. No contest.

After that, I have to give the nod to Sampras just because the ****** hung around and won for so long.

Then Borg.

star
01-27-2004, 02:57 PM
Borg for winning RG and Wimbledon in the same year.

You mean in the same yearS

:)

Clara Bow
01-31-2004, 08:07 AM
Oh, I wish Edberg was on the poll. I used to love to watch him plya. As a serve and volley fan, he really was one of the best to watch. His foot faults could be annoying but I loved the way he moved around the court.

He was my first great crush in kindergarten and grade school...sigh. All the girls had Kirk Cameron on their walls, I had Edberg.

I also like Wilander's game, something about the Swedes.

As for the greatest...until now- probably Sampras. Now - Federer- he really has a wonderful talent, one of the best ever.

Raoul Duke
01-31-2004, 08:15 AM
Hmmm how about:

Greatest = Laver

Best = Federer (or even Safin!)

Most unbeatable = Sampras

:devil: :wavey:

J. Corwin
01-31-2004, 11:13 AM
Sampras, Laver, and Borg are the standouts.

Crazy_Fool
01-31-2004, 12:01 PM
Most unbeatable = Sampras
Yep, as for the greatest who knows? I would say Borg winning Wimbeldon and RG b2b twice. Pretty amazing stuff.

WyverN
01-31-2004, 12:56 PM
Yep, as for the greatest who knows? I would say Borg winning Wimbeldon and RG b2b twice. Pretty amazing stuff.

twice?
he did it 5 times

Crazy_Fool
01-31-2004, 12:58 PM
twice?
he did it 5 times
5 times!! now no-one can be arguing he is the best.

WyverN
01-31-2004, 01:05 PM
sorry my mistake
he did it 3 times

he won the french in 74,75,78,79,80,81
he won wimbledon in 76,77,78,79,80

MisterQ
01-31-2004, 01:41 PM
and then he made the final of wimby in 81, so almost 4 times in a row!

yeah borg was amazing

J. Corwin
01-31-2004, 10:16 PM
He also had the most consecutive wins at a single grand slam event (Wimbledon-41 matches).

star
01-31-2004, 10:24 PM
sorry my mistake
he did it 3 times

he won the french in 74,75,78,79,80,81
he won wimbledon in 76,77,78,79,80

Wyver, I think it should be mentioned that Borg was unable to play the French Open in 1977 because of an injury. Wimbledon was his first tournament after the end of April 1977.

WyverN
01-31-2004, 11:05 PM
good point star, would be amazed if someone beat a healthy borg at 77 french

TennisLurker
01-31-2004, 11:23 PM
Yeah, Guillermo Vilas won his only Roland Garros in 1977, the year Borg had to pull out because of injury.
Vilas also lost the 1975 and 1978 finals to Borg, Borg was a real tragedy to Vilas.

Only Adriano Panatta defeated borg in Roland Garros, he did it in 1976 and 1973.

J. Corwin
01-31-2004, 11:49 PM
I think what makes Borg not THE best is his failure to win a single US Open.

*~ The Leopard ~*
01-31-2004, 11:51 PM
Are we talking about the player who, at his best, has produced the highest quality tennis ever?

Or are we talking about the greatest record of achievement?

They are very different things. Also, the first is difficult, because the game has changed so much that you can't really compare Laver and Sampras (for example).

I think it's easier to debate "greatest record of achievement", in which case I might go with Rod Laver.

When we are debating this, at least we have historical records to compare. We don't have to imagine how Sampras or Federer or Safin, or someone like that, might fare if we sent them back with a time machine to play with different rackets from what they're used to, etc.

J. Corwin
01-31-2004, 11:53 PM
Personally I take it as who has achieved the most.

star
02-01-2004, 12:07 AM
I think what makes Borg not THE best is his failure to win a single US Open.


Yes. I agree that is a blemish on his record.

That's why I put Laver ahead of him.

star
02-01-2004, 12:09 AM
Personally I take it as who has achieved the most.


I do too. So....... Laver, Sampras, Borg.


Of course, had Borg bothered to play the Australian Open, his achievements might look better, but he didn't.

MisterQ
02-01-2004, 12:14 AM
I think what makes Borg not THE best is his failure to win a single US Open.

It's a fair point jackson.

But he did make the final 4 times! Which is not the same, of course, but shows he could play there.

The 1980 match was particularly close.
1981 John McEnroe Bjorn Borg 4-6 6-2 6-4 6-3
1980 John McEnroe Bjorn Borg 7-6(4) 6-1 6-7(5) 5-7 6-4
1978 Jimmy Connors Bjorn Borg 6-4 6-2 6-2
1976 Jimmy Connors Bjorn Borg 6-4 3-6 7-6(9) 6-4

TennisLurker
02-01-2004, 12:41 AM
Sampras never reached the french open final, McEnroe, Leconte, Edberg, Stich reached the final.
Noah even won there in 1983.

Crazy_Fool
02-01-2004, 04:14 PM
If u are saying that Borg cant be classed as the best cos of he didnt win the US Open then that means Sampras cant be classed as the best cos he didnt win the French. Laver must win in that case.