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Yes, it's a Roddick vs. Safin Quarterfinals

Tennis Fool
01-25-2004, 06:50 AM
Interesting stats:

Roddick
US Open winner 2003
Road to glory:
R128 Tim Henman (GBR) W 6-3 7-6(2) 6-3
R64 Ivan Ljubicic (CRO) W 6-3 6-7(4) 6-3 7-6(8)
R32 Flavio Saretta (BRA) W 6-1 6-3 6-3
R16 Xavier Malisse (BEL) W 6-3 6-4 7-6(5)
QF Sjeng Schalken (NED) W 6-4 6-2 6-3
SF David Nalbandian (ARG) W 6-7(4) 3-6 7-6(7) 6-1 6-3
F Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) W 6-3 7-6(2) 6-3


Yet to drop a set at this tournament. Hardest match was against Gonzo in the 1st rd.
Bageled Taylor Dent in the 3rd Rd.
Semifinalist here last year.
Has lost only once before the Semis of a Slam in the last year (RG 2003).

Safin
US Open winner 2000
Road to glory: :lol:
R128 Thierry Guardiola (FRA) W 7-5 6-7(5) 6-4 6-4
R64 Gianluca Pozzi (ITA) W 6-3 3-6 6-3 3-6 6-4
R32 Sebastien Grosjean (FRA) W 6-4 7-6(3) 1-6 3-6 7-6(5)
R16 Juan Carlos Ferrero (ESP) W 6-1 6-2 6-2
QF Nicolas Kiefer (GER) W 7-5 4-6 7-6(5) 6-3
SF Todd Martin (USA) W 6-3 7-6(4) 7-6(1)
F Pete Sampras (USA) W 6-4 6-3 6-3

Will turn 24 on day of match against Roddick.
Finalist here in 2002.
Best Slam result since RG 2002.
Has never lost in the Quarters of a Slam.


H2H:
2001 Los Angeles, Hard, R3 Safin 6 3 6 4




Who will win?

Fedex
01-25-2004, 06:51 AM
Safin!!!!!

TheBoiledEgg
01-25-2004, 06:52 AM
Marat :D :)

undomiele
01-25-2004, 06:56 AM
I think Safin is at a disadvantage. He's more tired and been out of the game too long. If he had been at his peak he would have Roddick for sure.
Surprise me Saf!

Hingie
01-25-2004, 06:56 AM
Sorry, as much as I would love to see Marat win(and believe me, I love that man!!!!!!!!), I think that realistically Andy has got to be the favorite. I'm just proud of Marat for reaching the quarterfinals of his first grand slam back, and no doubt will be rooting for him big time against that annoying little brat, but my head tells me that Andy is going to win, only because of confidence and the serve. However, Marat CAN win, but as of now, I say Roddick in 4.

WyverN
01-25-2004, 06:57 AM
Hope Safin will win but I think Roddick will pull it out

Tennis Fool
01-25-2004, 06:58 AM
New poster, welcome to the board :wavey:

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 07:04 AM
Welcome Hingie! :wavey:

Andy will sit on Safin's face and fart and it'll be buh-bye Marat! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/contrib/edoom/fart.gif

CooCooCachoo
01-25-2004, 07:09 AM
Hope would make me vote for Marat (please win!), but I have to be realistic and vote for Andy, since he has beaten some average to good players without absolutely any problems. Marat has struggled more, and, although his comeback is great, he'll need to do much better to beat Andy.

Fedex
01-25-2004, 07:14 AM
Well, no offence, but in my mind Shalken is only an average player. Marat will still give Andy problems with his big serve and All Court game!

Dirk
01-25-2004, 07:16 AM
Safin is not a good volleyer and oh Marat no more diving unless its on grass. That is how hurt yourself to begin with. Safin could stay at the baseline and handle Andy.

CooCooCachoo
01-25-2004, 07:18 AM
Well, no offence, but in my mind Shalken is only an average player.

In my mind, he is average to good. I don't think he is good, but he is above average for sure.

Fedex
01-25-2004, 07:20 AM
I dont think Shalken will ever beat the top 10 players

Bubble
01-25-2004, 07:20 AM
I give the edge to Marat.. :)

Marat is leading the king of aces title so far..
He has hit 71 aces while Dickhead has 58 :devil:

Tennis Fool
01-25-2004, 07:31 AM
Well, I just added stats and if you look at Safin's road to his US crown :eek: , hell, anything is possible :o

undomiele
01-25-2004, 07:36 AM
Id like to see a frustrated Roddick end up having to do this with Safin LOL :

[Robby Ginepri of the U.S. looks to play an unorthodox shot in frustration during his fourth round loss to France's Sebastien Grosjean at the Australian Open in Melbourne, Australia, Sunday, Jan. 25, 2004. Grosjean won in four sets 6-4, 3-6, 6-4, 6-1. ]

tazban1
01-25-2004, 07:49 AM
I'd say that Marat at his peak would beat Andy at his peak, but Marat's had such a long break and I haven't seen him play.

Tennisfool, I don't understand why you :lol: at Marat's "road to glory". He beat a lot of good players on the way to that title.

Tennis Fool
01-25-2004, 08:01 AM
The :lol: was because I couldn't add "he won without losing a set", or something to that effect. He won that title on the tip of his nails, until Sampras.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:03 AM
I dont think Shalken will ever beat the top 10 players
*sigh*

Off the top of my head, I know that he has several wins over Schuettler, and one over Roddick himself.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:05 AM
I think that Roddick will win. Safin is by far the superior talent, but he's been out far too long for me to believe that he's going to pull this off. Roddick is riding on confidence and matchplay that Safin simply doesn't have.

Regardless, Roddick fans across the globe will celebrate this as if it's much more than it really is.

Tricky_Forehand
01-25-2004, 08:14 AM
I'm going for Marat just because i would like to see him keep this "comeback" run going. I'm not a big fan of Marat but I can tolerate watching him better than I can Roddick. I only hope that Marat uses the temper tantrums that he'll surely have in this match in a positive way and not let the tantrums bring him down.

J. Corwin
01-25-2004, 08:44 AM
I think Andy will take this in 4. He's confident and he's focused. I don't think Marat is ready yet.

Vass
01-25-2004, 09:12 AM
I'm not voting in this one. The player whom I wish would win is not the one I think would win.

yanchr
01-25-2004, 11:12 AM
This one will be great and interesting!
But I'd say the result may not go the way in my favor. Roddick will take it but Marat pls prove me wrong!

Conchon
01-25-2004, 11:53 AM
At his peak, Marat would win. However, after that long injury layoff, he's not at his best fitness level to match Roddick just yet. Hopefully, he'll prove me wrong. :)

Scotso
01-25-2004, 12:29 PM
This is your chance to redeem yourself to me Marat :angel:

KCVH
01-25-2004, 12:39 PM
Marat has played his 4 setters before, and winning tournaments. Hard to tell who to predict. If there's a player to bt. Roddick, Marat has the game. Though go for 50/50. Hope Marat wins.

jmp
01-25-2004, 01:20 PM
I can't deny that Andy has rolled through his draw in superb fashion up to this point. But, there is NO way I'm betting against Marat in his come back tourny. I'm not hoping he'll do it, I expect him to tighten up his game, tighten up his mind, and kick butt! Go Marat!

Vass
01-25-2004, 02:01 PM
Well the poll should be named "who do u hope will win".

Lady
01-25-2004, 02:20 PM
Actually I do believe in Marat! I even don't know why!
Maybe because I didn't expect him to be in the last 8 in the 1st way!

Marat said he's not tired! And with every win his confidence grows!
And I think he believes he can beat Andy, that's very important! :)
Win would be incredible, loss is no shame ;)

Shy
01-25-2004, 02:25 PM
I want Marat to win , but I think Andy will.

Conchon
01-25-2004, 02:26 PM
Win would be incredible, loss is no shame ;)

That's a great way to state things. :)

Tennis Fool
01-25-2004, 03:10 PM
Safin, lunging for the ball at break point. The racquet flew out of his hands, but the ball went over the net and hit the baseline. Safin then served for the set against Blake

http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1074965436083_2004/01/25/26tennismain,0.jpg

Shy
01-25-2004, 03:15 PM
For instance, if Roger lose his round 16 , and Safin win his QF , does that mean that Roger will be no 1 since Andy didn't defend his point?

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 03:18 PM
Regardless, Roddick fans across the globe will celebrate this as if it's much more than it really is.

Becca, please don't judge what I'll do before it even happens.

and I see this thread/poll has turned into a popularity contest. what a surprise :rolleyes:

and no shy, I believe Andy would keep #1 by a very slim margin, at least that's what someone told me I haven't done the math myself.

Fumus
01-25-2004, 03:23 PM
Becca, please don't judge what I'll do before it even happens.

and I see this thread/poll has turned into a popularity contest. what a surprise :rolleyes:

and no shy, I believe Andy would keep #1 by a very slim margin, at least that's what someone told me I haven't done the math myself.

eh, no worries... :p

Rat will have to play his best game. He can't loose focus like he did against Todd Martin. Honestly I don't think the Ginepri match should have gone 4 sets for him. You need to be beating people down to get the kind of momentum you need to beat someone like Andy, Agassi, Fed or any of the Top players. Marat hasn't been playing his best tennis...if he can start to play like I know he can he could defly beat Roddick. I just will be suprised if he did because I don't think he is ready

lzhaol
01-25-2004, 03:49 PM
it will be tough
but i think Andy will simplt blast his way thru in 5 sets!

ys
01-25-2004, 04:29 PM
I think Roddick's wins are overvalued. He beat few single-handers. Single-handers never really did well at AO. Also, Roddick has not faced a Safin-like serve+baseline power combination in Grand Slams since Wimbledon semifinals, he might not like it.

Marat's lack of match toughness should not be overvalued too. It's his 8th match of the season, and he won 6 out of 7. So, he is not exactly playing his first point after long layoff.

On top of that, it is still not US hardcourts, so it is not exactly best Roddick's surface. After all, it is Safin, who won his last 12 out of 13 matches at AO. On paper Roddick is favourite, at least 60:40, but I think we'll be surprised.

Mr. Man
01-25-2004, 04:31 PM
Anything is possible. But I predict Andy will win in 4 sets.

Raul-Lopez
01-25-2004, 04:36 PM
Roddick in four.

But i hope that Marat win this match.

SaFed2005
01-25-2004, 04:40 PM
Anything can happen but Roddick prolly has a better chance.

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 04:58 PM
Regardless, Roddick fans across the globe will celebrate this as if it's much more than it really is.

Nah. When Andy crushes Marat I'll just celebrate his win my usual way: with a banana gig :banana: :p

star
01-25-2004, 05:05 PM
Id like to see a frustrated Roddick end up having to do this with Safin LOL :

[Robby Ginepri of the U.S. looks to play an unorthodox shot in frustration during his fourth round loss to France's Sebastien Grosjean at the Australian Open in Melbourne, Australia, Sunday, Jan. 25, 2004. Grosjean won in four sets 6-4, 3-6, 6-4, 6-1. ]

YUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Put up a warning before posting pictures like that. Put me right off my breakfast.

Fumus
01-25-2004, 05:07 PM
Nah. When Andy crushes Marat I'll just celebrate his win my usual way: with a banana gig :banana: :p

Are you going to play the drinking game for that match? haha because I know the match will drive alot of Rat fans to drinking!! :haha:

star
01-25-2004, 05:09 PM
Reading the posts, it seems that of the people who are willing to go on the record, Roddick is the favorite to win.

Knowind this board that is :scared:

:D

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 05:16 PM
lol star!!!!!!!

And isn't it interesting that if you look at those who voted, of those who openly dislike Andy, they all voted for Marat and of those who openly like Andy, they all voted for him. Big shocker there :o

Iza
01-25-2004, 05:23 PM
Marat is gonna have a tough match with Roddick, but if he doesn't lose his temper he's gonna thrash Rod like Rogi did in the Wimby SF. Oh god, this match has to be a most interesting QF! I'ma even skip school to watch it!!!

star
01-25-2004, 05:26 PM
lol star!!!!!!!

And isn't it interesting that if you look at those who voted, of those who openly dislike Andy, they all voted for Marat and of those who openly like Andy, they all voted for him. Big shocker there :o

I'm just talking about the people who wrote posts.

I'm far to lazy to go looking up who voted what in a poll. :)

Fumus
01-25-2004, 05:28 PM
I'm just talking about the people who wrote posts.

I'm far to lazy to go looking up who voted what in a poll. :)

:haha:

croat123
01-25-2004, 05:32 PM
safin struggled, but his opponents played good matches against him while gonzalez, dent, and sjengster all played like crap. i think roddick might start off slow cause he hasn't played someone of safin's calibre yet this tournament.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 05:33 PM
I'm just talking about the people who wrote posts.

I'm far to lazy to go looking up who voted what in a poll. :)

lol! well I don't really care who voted and for whom... it's just interesting.

Fumus
01-25-2004, 05:35 PM
Marat is gonna have a tough match with Roddick, but if he doesn't lose his temper he's gonna thrash Rod like Rogi did in the Wimby SF. Oh god, this match has to be a most interesting QF! I'ma even skip school to watch it!!!

:fiery: what are you talking about!!


Ok, first of all Safin's game is no where near Fed's game and this isn't grass so think again! Second, loose his temper or not Rat needs to play his best just to stand a chance. C'mon dude he struggled with Todd Martin and James Blake tested him. So he could win but, definitely no blow outs here, except maybe A-Rod blowing out Rat.

star
01-25-2004, 05:35 PM
lol! well I don't really care who voted and for whom... it's just interesting.

You're just all round more energetic than I am. :)

:smooch:

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 05:40 PM
hahaha aw thanks star :hug:

Fumus, it's not even worth trying lol.

Andy hasn't been tested that hard so far, but it's not like Safin has played any really top players yet either so let's not be so one-sided.

I don't see a blowout in either direction. Nope don't see it.

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 05:41 PM
You're just all round more energetic than I am. :)

:smooch:

Who needs to look at who voted for who? I can tell you without even looking. We all have each other memorized by now when it comes to these polls. ;)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 05:42 PM
lol sheesh I was just curious ok???

:p

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 06:05 PM
well Andy's a lot match-tougher, he's played a lot less tennis in the past week, and he's looked REALLY solid (both mentally and tennis-wise) in all his matches. Those are three reasons to think Andy might win :shrug:

star
01-25-2004, 06:05 PM
lol sheesh I was just curious ok???

:p

Yes, we know.... little energizer bunny.

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 06:07 PM
lol sheesh I was just curious ok???:p

;) bunkie-boo :hug:

BTW, ESPN showed the last two sets of the Safin/Blake match. Good stuff! Saw that *illegal* shot Marat made that everyone was blowing their load over (lobbing a ball by throwing his racket).

Marat better not try any funny shit like that in his match against Roddick. :devil:

Havok
01-25-2004, 06:08 PM
Roddick in 4. i see the safinsluts have taken control of this poll though:yawn:

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 06:09 PM
BUNKIE-BOO??????????????????

lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fedex
01-25-2004, 06:09 PM
Oh and in case no one knew, where i live after they finished the Andy-Shalken match, they showed a set of Marats match. Oh my god, is what i said, to some of those shots that Marat did. Ho, andy is gonna have tantrums if Marat plays like that unbelievable shot making!!

Fedex
01-25-2004, 06:10 PM
Safin in straight sets. I've only seen Roger make shots like Marat :) Vamos Marat

AtPGiRL
01-25-2004, 06:13 PM
Marat is going to kill Pandy for 3 reasons.

1) he is match tough and has been through many tests and Pandy has not been tested at all.. he won't be ready for Marat's power and all around superior game.

2) Marat will take away Pandy's main weapon: His serve. Marat is one of the best returners in the game, right up there w/Agassi. His return of serve is underrated!

3) Marat will take away Pandy's only other weapon, his forehand. Just like he took away Blake's.

I expect Marat to win in 3-4 sets. If Pandy takes a set, it would be in a tiebreak.

:worship: Go Marat! :worship:

MisterQ
01-25-2004, 06:16 PM
Flashy shots don't always win matches.

Sometimes the duller, more pedestrian approach is equally effective.

Fedex
01-25-2004, 06:19 PM
He might not kill Andy, but if safin comes up with those shots, it will be a remake of Wimbledon Semi finals!! I completly agree with you AtP GiRL! Roddick hasnt had many challenges, and could get steamrolled because of that. Marat returns very well , has a great serve of his own, great groundies, great volleys, great everything!!!

Mr. Man
01-25-2004, 06:20 PM
Roddick in 4. i see the safinsluts have taken control of this poll though:yawn:
No surprise there. :haha:

Havok
01-25-2004, 06:27 PM
ah people talking out of sheer hope. apply the same shit to Safin as you did to Roddick. I'm sorry but Roddick's opponents were of a much higher calibur than Safin's opponents. Vahaly, Martin, Blake i mean come on :yawn: there's no doubt Safin has some huge talent and can hit some awesome winners, but he's still very spotty, while Roddick isn't hitting above 15 errors per match. Safin's errors are way up there. and he's hitting his 2nd serves like the WTA girls hit their 1st serves, and im not kidding. anyways lets just stop the talking and wait until this match is over

sigmagirl91
01-25-2004, 06:31 PM
I will root for Safin. Not because I'm a Safinslut, but because I want to see an upset....

Fedex
01-25-2004, 06:37 PM
He's hitting serves like that becuase he wants to fuck youre timing up!!! Kinda like Federer. Fed can throw some really fast 1st and 2nd serves, and then some really slow ones, so you dont know whats coming. Actually Blake and Martin are much higher caliber opponents then Sjeng!!! Obvously Dent could have been very tough and even beat andy, but you know that Dent wasnt there at all. Marat will still beat up on Andy. Please stop calling them safin SLUTS, for i am a guy and i like Safin for his game and raw talent!! Vamos Marat :bowdown:

jmp
01-25-2004, 06:43 PM
Fedex, I saw the same portion of the Marat/James match, too. I really enjoyed seeing Marat's style after his long absence.

sigmagirl91
01-25-2004, 06:48 PM
I'm sorry but Roddick's opponents were of a much higher calibur than Safin's opponents. Vahaly, Martin, Blake i mean come on :yawn: there's no doubt Safin has some huge talent and can hit some awesome winners, but he's still very spotty, while Roddick isn't hitting above 15 errors per match.


I would hardly call Todd Martin a "low caliber" opponent. He used to be ranked in the top 5, for pete's sake. He is always a threat, regardless of surface, so to underrate Marat's ability to pull that match out is totally short-sighted.

Fedex
01-25-2004, 07:07 PM
jmp, did you see those unbelievable volley points?? Damn amazing!! :eek:

J. Corwin
01-25-2004, 07:08 PM
They better show this match live on ESPN.

Fedex
01-25-2004, 07:12 PM
If you mean the Safin-Roddick one they will definitly show it live! If not i wont really follow live scores

J. Corwin
01-25-2004, 07:13 PM
Yes, that one.

Fedex
01-25-2004, 07:28 PM
I'm sure it will be live. I'm also looking forward to that match!

the cat
01-25-2004, 07:28 PM
Even though I like Andy Roddick, I will be rooting for Marat Safin who is my favorite men's tennis player since Stefan Edberg. :) But Safin was tired at the end of his fourth round match against James Blake and that's not a good sign. But if Safin can somehow win 1 of the first 2 sets Roddick who hasn't been in a close match since November of 2003 might falter from not being match tough. That's Marat's only hope. I think Roddick will win in 4 sets.

In my mind Safin has had a fine comeback to tennis at the 2004 Australian Open. :) But I would like his chances much better if he was in the other half of the draw.

jmp
01-25-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Fedex

jmp, did you see those unbelievable volley points?? Damn amazing!! :eek:

Yes! I agree! Here's what I wrote on another thread:


That one (plus some) set of Marat/James I just saw was the happiest viewing experience I've had since the AO coverage started. :) James was playing VERY well. I hope he can continue to improve his ranking throughout the year. But, MARAT! :woohoo: I got a chance to see the shot making, the movement, the aces!! YES! I heard about his incredible shot to break James. But, words didn't do it justice! That was :eek: :eek:

Now I can go back to watching whatever ESPN feels like slapping up on the screen in duplicate...

Tennis Fool
01-25-2004, 08:00 PM
Here it is again.
http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpicture_id_1074965436083_2004/01/25/26tennismain,0.jpg

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 08:01 PM
They better show this match live on ESPN.

If it's an afternoon match, they probably will but if it's a night match that'd be 3:30am or so Eastern so we'd surely get it tape delayed.

Lady
01-25-2004, 08:08 PM
Safin's errors are way up there. and he's hitting his 2nd serves like the WTA girls hit their 1st serves, and im not kidding. anyways lets just stop the talking and wait until this match is over

You know watching Sydney & AO I noticed, that Justine's avarage 2nd serve speed are @ the same numbers as Lleyton's, Marat's, Carlos', Todd Martin's & many more ;)
And not even talking about 1st serve ;)

darnyelb
01-25-2004, 08:23 PM
I hope Marat Safin but think Andy Roddick will take this match.

It's really hard to say really since I've barely gotten to see Safin play any. All I know is Andy's been in great form the past 4 matches.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:27 PM
Becca, please don't judge what I'll do before it even happens.

and I see this thread/poll has turned into a popularity contest. what a surprise :rolleyes:

and no shy, I believe Andy would keep #1 by a very slim margin, at least that's what someone told me I haven't done the math myself.
I have this uncanny ability to predict the future.

Just watch.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 08:30 PM
Some fans might, but that's always the case with any player and his/her fans. I'm very confident in myself that I will not react as you suggest if Andy beats Safin.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:32 PM
lol star!!!!!!!

And isn't it interesting that if you look at those who voted, of those who openly dislike Andy, they all voted for Marat and of those who openly like Andy, they all voted for him. Big shocker there :o
Right. Because, as we all know, Wyver and I are fucking regulars in the Roddick forum.

Generalize all you please, but for the love of God, don't do it in the same thread where you whined about generalizations :rolleyes:

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:33 PM
lol! well I don't really care who voted and for whom... it's just interesting.
If you didn't care, you wouldn't be in here commenting on it at least three times.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:35 PM
well Andy's a lot match-tougher, he's played a lot less tennis in the past week, and he's looked REALLY solid (both mentally and tennis-wise) in all his matches. Those are three reasons to think Andy might win :shrug:
And you like him more As we know, people ONLY vote for who they like in this poll. Nobody around here can actually use their fucking brains when voting.

Especially me.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:36 PM
I will root for Safin. Not because I'm a Safinslut, but because I want to see an upset....
No, this makes you a Safinslut. Only people who vote for Roddick know how to think. Haven't you been reading the thread? ;)

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 08:38 PM
Some fans might, but that's always the case with any player and his/her fans. I'm very confident in myself that I will not react as you suggest if Andy beats Safin.
There is a reason that I didn't say "ALL Andy fans around the globe".

YAWN

star
01-25-2004, 08:55 PM
:drive:

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:00 PM
;) bunkie-boo :hug:

BTW, ESPN showed the last two sets of the Safin/Blake match. Good stuff! Saw that *illegal* shot Marat made that everyone was blowing their load over (lobbing a ball by throwing his racket).

Marat better not try any funny shit like that in his match against Roddick. :devil:

:confused: ESPN only showed the match from 1-1 in the 4th set. They should have shown more of that, instead of re-playing Agassi/Srichaphan. :rolleyes:

And the shot was not illegal. Marat had control of the racquet when the ball hit his strings and bounced off. Only after that did his racquet come out of his hands.

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:01 PM
Roddick in 4. i see the safinsluts have taken control of this poll though:yawn:

Should I start calling you and your clan the "andysluts"? I don't really see a difference.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 09:03 PM
I don't think Naldo would like being called a slut ;)

Fedex
01-25-2004, 09:05 PM
Well then Naldo shouldent dish it out, bunk ;)

star
01-25-2004, 09:06 PM
Our clan. I like that.

Clan names are always good.

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:09 PM
ah people talking out of sheer hope. apply the same shit to Safin as you did to Roddick. I'm sorry but Roddick's opponents were of a much higher calibur than Safin's opponents. Vahaly, Martin, Blake i mean come on :yawn: there's no doubt Safin has some huge talent and can hit some awesome winners, but he's still very spotty, while Roddick isn't hitting above 15 errors per match. Safin's errors are way up there. and he's hitting his 2nd serves like the WTA girls hit their 1st serves, and im not kidding. anyways lets just stop the talking and wait until this match is over

I can't speak for Vahaly, but Martin, Blake, and Nieminen were playing at an incredibly higher level than any of Roddick's opponents. And Marat's serve has not been a problem; he's hit more aces than Roddick.

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:10 PM
Well then Naldo shouldent dish it out, bunk ;)

Exactly. I don't think Safin's fans like being called sluts either.

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:12 PM
They better show this match live on ESPN.

You know they will ;) God forbid we don't see Andy play, whether it's actually a good match against a top player or a demolition job against #20167

andylover_16
01-25-2004, 09:15 PM
im superstitious and dont want to jynx anything...

btw marat safin= pussy:)

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:19 PM
Should I start calling you and your clan the "andysluts"? I don't really see a difference.
There isn't a difference, no. Well, except that the "Safinsluts" are far less irritating. Perhaps because Safin isn't winning as much these days, though.

All Hail Hypocracy!

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:21 PM
im superstitious and dont want to jynx anything...

btw marat safin= pussy:)
Here I was thinking that the earth had been spared of your stupidity through a dramatic death. Guess not, huh? :)

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:21 PM
im superstitious and dont want to jynx anything...

btw marat safin= pussy:)

Oh wow, I just love the intellect on this thread. It's overwhelming.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:21 PM
Exactly. I don't think Safin's fans like being called sluts either.
All Hail Hypocracy!

Anyways, I'm 12. So although I think that Roddick is going to win, his fans better hope to Hell that he does.. ;)

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:22 PM
Oh wow, I just love the intellect on this thread. It's overwhelming.
Why didn't Ferrero get a few weeks to have an enormously stupid fan base? Or is that going to happen later? ;)

star
01-25-2004, 09:23 PM
Well then Naldo shouldent dish it out, bunk ;)

I see the joke went over you head.

andylover_16
01-25-2004, 09:23 PM
Here I was thinking that the earth had been spared of your stupidity through a dramatic death. Guess not, huh? :)


hmm..no..just didnt feel like listening to your diahrea at the mouth...

everyone is entitled to their own opinions..:wavey:...

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 09:23 PM
I can't speak for Vahaly, but Martin, Blake, and Nieminen were playing at an incredibly higher level than any of Roddick's opponents. And Marat's serve has not been a problem; he's hit more aces than Roddick.

I highly doubt Vahaly was playing at a high level, unfortunately for him lol.

As for serving and aces, I don't think that tells anything. Against Dent especially and Schalken, Andy served a lot into the body, and while just as hard to return successfully, the guys manage to get their rackets on body serves usually so it's not an ace, even though it's an unreturned serve. Andy's percentage has been high and he's winning around 90% of his first serve points, I think his serve is doing A-OK too lol (not that you said it wasn't.. but yeah lol).

In any case... I'm just not gonna be anywhere near this board tomorrow night/Tuesday morning lol. Everyone's scaring me at this point. It's only a tennis match lol but you'd think it's gonna be the outbreak of WWIII :bolt:

star
01-25-2004, 09:24 PM
Exactly. I don't think Safin's fans like being called sluts either.

Some of them do. :)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 09:25 PM
I see the joke went over you head.

CLEARLY. :)

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:25 PM
hmm..no..just didnt feel like listening to your diahrea at the mouth...

everyone is entitled to their own opinions..:wavey:...
Right. If you could read, you would realize that nobody here has indicated otherwise. Except for the Roddickwhores, who are being condescending and rude to everybody who voted for Safin.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:28 PM
CLEARLY. :)
CLEARY it was just a really stupid "joke", that said poster was not in on.

Leo
01-25-2004, 09:29 PM
Why didn't Ferrero get a few weeks to have an enormously stupid fan base? Or is that going to happen later? ;)

Oh, don't underestimate some Ferrero fans for their stupidity. Thankfully none of them migrate here, but there's some really clueless folk on Ferrero fan forums. As a general rule, I avoid fan forums at all costs.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:29 PM
I highly doubt Vahaly was playing at a high level, unfortunately for him lol.

As for serving and aces, I don't think that tells anything. Against Dent especially and Schalken, Andy served a lot into the body, and while just as hard to return successfully, the guys manage to get their rackets on body serves usually so it's not an ace, even though it's an unreturned serve. Andy's percentage has been high and he's winning around 90% of his first serve points, I think his serve is doing A-OK too lol (not that you said it wasn't.. but yeah lol).

In any case... I'm just not gonna be anywhere near this board tomorrow night/Tuesday morning lol. Everyone's scaring me at this point. It's only a tennis match lol but you'd think it's gonna be the outbreak of WWIII :bolt:
That goes both ways.

If you want to know why people are "yelling" at you, perhaps you should re-examine your posts.

It's okay to be a condscending shithead. I act like one all the time. Just don't wonder and bitch when you get it back.

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:30 PM
Oh, don't underestimate some Ferrero fans for their stupidity. Thankfully none of them migrate here, but there's some really clueless folk on Ferrero fan forums. As a general rule, I avoid fan forums at all costs.
Don't think that I haven't noticed ;)

I meant on this board, though. They haven't ever tried to take out GM with their assholes, thankfully ;)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 09:31 PM
um.... no one's yelling at me. In fact I don't have a clue what you're talking about. I was replying to Leo.

and when I said "Everyone's scaring me" I meant EVERYONE

andylover_16
01-25-2004, 09:31 PM
Right. If you could read, you would realize that nobody here has indicated otherwise. Except for the Roddickwhores, who are being condescending and rude to everybody who voted for Safin.


all i said was that safin was a pussy:rolleyes:..and dont start about condescending and rude until you read some of the other posts that were not made by roddick fans throughout this message board..if you want to point fingers...then go do it somewhere else..

Chloe le Bopper
01-25-2004, 09:36 PM
all i said was that safin was a pussy:rolleyes:..and dont start about condescending and rude until you read some of the other posts that were not made by roddick fans throughout this message board..if you want to point fingers...then go do it somewhere else..
You CLEARLY missed the post where I called my self a conscending shithead. That, or you can't read.

Anyways, you're managed to bore me. I'm going back to my math ;)

andylover_16
01-25-2004, 09:36 PM
condscending shithead. I act like one all the time.


*phew*...at least we agree on something

andylover_16
01-25-2004, 09:38 PM
You CLEARLY missed the post where I called my self a conscending shithead. That, or you can't read.

Anyways, you're managed to bore me. I'm going back to my math ;)


funny how you posted that almost exactly the same time as i posted...hmm..anyhow..im glad to see you leave..

darnyelb
01-25-2004, 09:42 PM
I'm offended by the term 'slut'... if anything I want to be referred to as a tramp, or a man-whore. mwhahahaha... <evil laugh>

star
01-25-2004, 09:43 PM
Oh, don't underestimate some Ferrero fans for their stupidity. Thankfully none of them migrate here, but there's some really clueless folk on Ferrero fan forums. As a general rule, I avoid fan forums at all costs.

Absolutely correct, Leo!!

I'm a Ferrero fan. :)

star
01-25-2004, 09:45 PM
I'm offended by the term 'slut'... if anything I want to be referred to as a tramp, or a man-whore. mwhahahaha... <evil laugh>

I'll try to keep your sensibilities in mind, darnyelb. :)

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 09:52 PM
And the shot was not illegal. Marat had control of the racquet when the ball hit his strings and bounced off. Only after that did his racquet come out of his hands.

Hee! I know Leo, I threw that in there just to be annoying. I like to tweak the Safinites. :p A little pre-battle trash-talking before WWIII breaks out, if you will. :)

And awww, bunkie, you sure you don't wanna join us? the Andy fans will be outnumbered by the Safin soldiers and we need every man/woman/child/transexual we can get. LOL. :devil: ;)

andylover_16
01-25-2004, 09:57 PM
Hee! I know Leo, I threw that in there just to be annoying. I like to tweak the Safinites. :p A little pre-battle trash-talking before WWIII breaks out, if you will. :)

And awww, bunkie, you sure you don't wanna join us? the Andy fans will be outnumbered by the Safin soldiers and we need every man/woman/child/transexual we can get. LOL. :devil: ;)



lol tang..your just too much:smooch:

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 09:57 PM
And awww, bunkie, you sure you don't wanna join us? the Andy fans will be outnumbered by the Safin soldiers and we need every man/woman/child/transexual we can get. LOL. :devil: ;)

I'm quite sure, tangy.

Plus, it seems likely that the match will be a night one so it'd be overnight anyway and I can easily sleep through the storm ;)

Ma. Estefania
01-25-2004, 09:58 PM
Oh great, then another fight here....

I hope I can be wrong, very wrong, but I think that though I haven't watched any Marat's match so far, and Roddick's one ag. Ulihrach (who isn't a great referent, but well....) I think Andy is the fave here, and for me he is it too.

I deeply want Marat to win, but it seems more likely to be an Andy's win. :o

star
01-25-2004, 09:58 PM
Careful there Tangy. Safin fans might not like being called soldiers. ;)

star
01-25-2004, 09:59 PM
Oh great, then another fight here....

I hope I can be wrong, very wrong, but I think that though I haven't watched any Marat's match so far, and Roddick's one ag. Ulihrach (who isn't a great referent, but well....) I think Andy is the fave here, and for me he is it too.

I deeply want Marat to win, but it seems more likely to be an Andy's win. :o


I'm not fighting.

And I think your deep wish may come true. :)

Leo
01-25-2004, 10:00 PM
I'm quite sure, tangy.

See! Bunk takes the high road towards peace. Quite surprising for someone who spends most of her time in Texas, actually. :)

star
01-25-2004, 10:00 PM
But Tangy, I'm interested. Did your watching that bit of Marat that we got to see let you know why people are so deeply impressed with Marat?

renatoal
01-25-2004, 10:01 PM
SAFINNNN !!!! GOOO !

star
01-25-2004, 10:02 PM
See! Bunk takes the high road towards peace. Quite surprising for someone who spends most of her time in Texas, actually. :)

Yes, but she comes from peacenicky Mass. :)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 10:03 PM
And I think your deep wish may come true. :)

*gasp* star, whose side are you on!?! j/k j/k :p

LOL Leo.... if I thought the fight would be worth something then I'd participate, but it's just easier for me to avoid the situation lol. Marat fans are passionate enough to fight for Marat and the Andy fans that are here are passionate enough to fight for Andy. But it almost doesn't matter who wins. I can see the arguments now.

If Marat wins it's "yayyyyyyyyyyyyy I told you sooooooo Pandy Sucks"

if Andy wins it's "yayyyyyyyyyyyy I told you so Andy Rocks" and ALSO "Marat wasn't at his best and Andy got lucky." I'm sure a few bum line calls in Andy's favor would also be responsible.

So really when the argument is that predictable... why bother sticking around? ;)

As for Texas... I'm not a Texan lol. Actually we just established I'm a proud Masshole :lol: Plus I am counting down the days til I become a Californian :)

Ma. Estefania
01-25-2004, 10:06 PM
I'm not fighting.

And I think your deep wish may come true. :)

Ok, great. Thanx ;)

Fedex
01-25-2004, 10:07 PM
Why would you want to be a Calfiornian. They have Arnold for Govorner! :eek:

Aurora
01-25-2004, 10:07 PM
And Marat's serve has not been a problem; he's hit more aces than Roddick.

Not an argument if he's played like, what, 5 sets more than Roddick, is it?

udachi Marat!

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 10:08 PM
Why would you want to be a Calfiornian. They have Arnold for Govorner! :eek:

I know... but they also have nice weather :D

Leo
01-25-2004, 10:09 PM
Yes, I know you're not a Texan. But there was always the possibility that you be brainwashed by the Texan way of thinking. Thankfully you've avoided the evil and have stayed true to your New England roots. ;)

Ooooh, you're off to Cally? Cool, maybe you can move in with Lindsay. :D

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 10:13 PM
Yes, I know you're not a Texan. But there was always the possibility that you be brainwashed by the Texan way of thinking. Thankfully you've avoided the evil and have stayed true to your New England roots. ;)

Ooooh, you're off to Cally? Cool, maybe you can move in with Lindsay. :D

When we moved in Freshman year, the advisers made us all make a vow to accomplish a goal.

Mine was to never say "y'all"...my second goal was to never attend the Rodeo. I've succeeded in both :)

Yes, off to Cali with almost certainty, one of the non-Cali law schools I've applied to would have to give me a HELL of an offer.

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 10:34 PM
But Tangy, I'm interested. Did your watching that bit of Marat that we got to see let you know why people are so deeply impressed with Marat?

Yes and no. The guy's got a lot of heart, he reminds me of Lleyton in that department, so that's good. I love players who spill their guts on the court. But I need to see him play more. I can't wait to see him in action for a full match with Andy on Monday. Win or lose, I think I'll have a better understanding of his appeal and game afterwards. ;)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 10:36 PM
I can see why people would like Marat, for sure. he's very crafty. I still haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion though. however I've never had any negative feelings towards him anyway lol

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 10:43 PM
This place is crawling with Massholes. :devil:

star
01-25-2004, 10:47 PM
I know... but they also have nice weather :D

shhhhhhh

Don't let Easterners know about good weather.

We like to keep it a secret.

WyverN
01-25-2004, 10:56 PM
Marat will have to play close to his USO 2000 form to have a chance. It would be one of the upsets of the tournament if he won considering the form Andy in and how little Safin has played.

Roddicks never going to have a better opportunity to beat him as Safin will only get better

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:01 PM
When we moved in Freshman year, the advisers made us all make a vow to accomplish a goal.

Mine was to never say "y'all"...my second goal was to never attend the Rodeo. I've succeeded in both :)

Yes, off to Cali with almost certainty, one of the non-Cali law schools I've applied to would have to give me a HELL of an offer.

Well, congrats on achieving your goals in life! Although I think mine would be more academics-based, I understand how important yours could be. I have never set foot in Texas (phew), but I do enjoy throwing around the term "y'all" every now and then. :)

star
01-25-2004, 11:02 PM
Now how can you say "phew" if you've never set foot there. That's just ignorance and prejudice.

J. Corwin
01-25-2004, 11:03 PM
You know they will ;) God forbid we don't see Andy play, whether it's actually a good match against a top player or a demolition job against #20167

Not necessarily. ESPN has already decided on the time slots they are going to televise the AO. It's up to the AO officials on whether they want to make this a night or day match on Rod Laver. If it's night, then ESPN will show it taped the next day. :rolleyes:

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:05 PM
shhhhhhh

Don't let Easterners know about good weather.

We like to keep it a secret.

Some of us happen to like extreme humidity.

Well, no. But you do get four seasons in the Northeast, which I like.

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:06 PM
Now how can you say "phew" if you've never set foot there. That's just ignorance and prejudice.

Texas executes more people than the other 49 states combined. I don't want to be there. Sorry.

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:07 PM
Not necessarily. ESPN has already decided on the time slots they are going to televise the AO. It's up to the AO officials on whether they want to make this a night or day match on Rod Laver. If it's night, then ESPN will show it taped the next day. :rolleyes:

Oh yeah, that's true. But we will at least see it at one point or another, most likely in full. :)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:07 PM
This place is crawling with Massholes. :devil:

*high fives*

LOL star.... there's some good weather in New England. May-June and October....

LOL Leo, not my goals in life, just for my time in texas ;) I must say I had a lot of pre-conceived notions about Texas/Texans.... and, I must say that I've found a lot of them to be mostly true.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:08 PM
Marat will have to play close to his USO 2000 form to have a chance. It would be one of the upsets of the tournament if he won considering the form Andy in and how little Safin has played.

Roddicks never going to have a better opportunity to beat him as Safin will only get better

Interesting. Thanks for your take on it Wyver :)

J. Corwin
01-25-2004, 11:16 PM
I know... but they also have nice weather :D

Not really. It's a common mistaken notion. ;)

But I guess when compared to MASS-uh-CHEW-sehts, it is so. ;)

star
01-25-2004, 11:18 PM
I was shocked when I found out what weather in the east was like.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:19 PM
Not really. It's a common mistaken notion. ;)

But I guess when compared to MASS-uh-CHEW-sehts, it is so. ;)

:haha: LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

star
01-25-2004, 11:19 PM
*high fives*

LOL star.... there's some good weather in New England. May-June and October....

LOL Leo, not my goals in life, just for my time in texas ;) I must say I had a lot of pre-conceived notions about Texas/Texans.... and, I must say that I've found a lot of them to be mostly true.

:p

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:24 PM
I was shocked when I found out what weather in the east was like.

in what way? you mean b/c we actually get 4 seasons? :p

and by my preconceived notions of texas, I was referring to the Everything-is-bigger-in-Texas-and-we're-the-best-state-in-the-country-because-we-were-an-independent-nation-for-10-years-even-though-it-was-only-b/c-the-US-wouldn't-let-us-into-the-union sense of pride. It's really annoying! One of my friends made the pronouncement that she never wanted to leave the state of Texas. I couldn't believe it!

MisterQ
01-25-2004, 11:26 PM
I never realized how bad the weather in the northeast (upstate NY, specifically) was either, until I moved away during college. Lake effect snow, and lots of humidity in the summer. And many days that are simply overcast and dark.

But I have to say I don't hate it. I'm attached somehow. It builds character. (irritable, cranky character, lol!)

and NOTHING compares to New York State and New England in AUTUMN. Aaaaah. the leaves...

Sjengster
01-25-2004, 11:28 PM
There was an interesting documentary over here on Channel 4 a couple of weeks back entitled America's Fattest City, and guess which recent YEC-related city qualified for that dubious distinction? Typical me, I forgot it was on, but I gather from the reviews that it was less a serious sociological examination of American eating habits and more a chance to gawp and stare at highly obese foodbags. A lot of all you can eat restaurants around, I gather.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:28 PM
and NOTHING compares to New York State and New England in AUTUMN. Aaaaah. the leaves...

That's true, the foliage is wonderful.

but I HATE snow.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:31 PM
There was an interesting documentary over here on Channel 4 a couple of weeks back entitled America's Fattest City, and guess which recent YEC-related city qualified for that dubious distinction? Typical me, I forgot it was on, but I gather from the reviews that it was less a serious sociological examination of American eating habits and more a chance to gawp and stare at highly obese foodbags. A lot of all you can eat restaurants around, I gather.

Houston is always on the list because per capita there are more fast-food restaurants, and for some reason that's one of the huge indicators in the study. Houston's not a walking city - in part b/c of the heat during msot of the year and in part because it's just SO spread out that you just drive everywhere. that might have something to do with it.

But, I've never noticed that people are by far more overweight here than in Boston or any other big city I've been to. but whatever :shrug:

Sjengster
01-25-2004, 11:41 PM
I wouldn't worry about it bunk, Channel 4 seem to have a major anti-American complex going on in their programming - or perhaps anti-Bush would be more appropriate. That programme was preceded by a documentary called The State of Texas (nice double meaning there), which basically had a go at Texas under Bush's governorship and since then.

star
01-25-2004, 11:41 PM
Well, the area where Rice is located is very upscale. People around West U, are on the svelte side.

If you go out to wallmart in Channelview you might see something else.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:44 PM
Sjengster, we get the same reports here, on the local news and such...

and lol star... I don't even know where channelview is :o

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:45 PM
I never realized how bad the weather in the northeast (upstate NY, specifically) was either, until I moved away during college. Lake effect snow, and lots of humidity in the summer. And many days that are simply overcast and dark.

But I have to say I don't hate it. I'm attached somehow. It builds character. (irritable, cranky character, lol!)

and NOTHING compares to New York State and New England in AUTUMN. Aaaaah. the leaves...

Yeah, the humidity sucks. But I love the snow, 'specially when it sticks to everthing. It becomes a winter wonderland. Plus shovelling snow is actually good exercise for me; forces me to get off my lazy ass and work.

And yeah, the foliage in autumn is spectacular. Even more so further up north than New York, in New New Hampshire/Vermont/Maine. The only problem is that far up north it's always overcast and muggy in the mornings, whether it actually rains or not.

MisterQ
01-25-2004, 11:48 PM
Well, I'm talking pretty far upstate in New York, like around the Adirondacks, which is basically the same latitude as Vermont and New Hampshire.

And I like the snow, too, especially if I don't have to drive!

star
01-25-2004, 11:48 PM
Sjengster, we get the same reports here, on the local news and such...

and lol star... I don't even know where channelview is :o


You are a poor cloistered little thing.

star
01-25-2004, 11:49 PM
Well, I'm talking upstate, upstate, like around the Adirondacks, which is basically the same latitude as Vermont and New Hampshire.

And I like the snow, too, especially if I don't have to drive!


arrrrrrrrhhhhggg Snow.

I shudder when I have to go up north over the pass.

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:49 PM
Ah, okay MisterQ. I've never been that far up north in New York state, although I do make regular trips to New Hampshire, especially since my sis attends college there (although right now she's in New Zealand, the lucky bitch ;)).

MisterQ
01-25-2004, 11:51 PM
She is a lucky bitch, you're right!

Would love to go to NZ someday.

The upper half of New York is a lot like Vermont or New Hampshire, but with more lakes.

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:52 PM
You are a poor cloistered little thing.

lol I had no car the first 2 years and NO sense of direction still.... the only place I can successfully get to is ChinaTown.

tangerine_dream
01-25-2004, 11:53 PM
Houston is always on the list because per capita there are more fast-food restaurants, and for some reason that's one of the huge indicators in the study. Houston's not a walking city - in part b/c of the heat during msot of the year and in part because it's just SO spread out that you just drive everywhere. that might have something to do with it.

Houston was last year's dubious winner of the Fat City, USA contest. ;) I read that the mayor actually hired a fitness czar to help implement a weight-loss program for Houston citizens and now ... ta daaaa! ... Houston is no longer the fattest city in the country! Guess who won this year's Fat City, USA contest?

Anybody from Detroit post here? :lol: ;)

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:53 PM
She is a lucky bitch, you're right!

Would love to go to NZ someday.

The upper half of New York is a lot like Vermont or New Hampshire, but with more lakes.

I know! I'm so jealous of her! And I'm pissed that she's in Auckland but didn't once go to the men's tournament when it was being played. Simply inexcusable.

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:54 PM
Houston was last year's dubious winner of the Fat City, USA contest. ;) I read that the mayor actually hired a fitness czar to help implement a weight-loss program for Houston citizens and now ... ta daaaa! ... Houston is no longer the fattest city in the country! Guess who won this year's Fat City, USA contest?

Anybody from Detroit post here? :lol: ;)

Didn't Detroit also win "worst crime city" as well? :eek:

Leo
01-25-2004, 11:55 PM
lol I had no car the first 2 years and NO sense of direction still.... the only place I can successfully get to is ChinaTown.

Haha, I feel the same way. I need to use yahoo maps just to drive 10 miles away. Otherwise, I'll get completely lost.

star
01-25-2004, 11:56 PM
I know! I'm so jealous of her! And I'm pissed that she's in Auckland but didn't once go to the men's tournament when it was being played. Simply inexcusable.

Extremely inconsiderate girl!

MisterQ
01-25-2004, 11:57 PM
Detroit also won the "worst pronunciation of a French word" award.

star
01-25-2004, 11:57 PM
lol I had no car the first 2 years and NO sense of direction still.... the only place I can successfully get to is ChinaTown.

Which China Town..... The one east of downtown or the one out west?

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:57 PM
I can get around at home ok, but Houston's just so flat and gridded that I get lost!! I can only understand directions, such as "Get on the highway and go left" - if you said "take 610 east" that's like a foreign language to me here. But at home I'm fine, I don't know what it is!

star
01-25-2004, 11:58 PM
Detroit also won the "worst pronunciation of a French word" award.

Yes. Well, we've always had it in for the French. ;)

Deboogle!.
01-25-2004, 11:58 PM
Which China Town..... The one east of downtown or the one out west?

See there you go with north/south/east/west business. it baffles me LOL

whichever one is out Bellaire Blvd.

star
01-25-2004, 11:59 PM
I can get around at home ok, but Houston's just so flat and gridded that I get lost!! I can only understand directions, such as "Get on the highway and go left" - if you said "take 610 east" that's like a foreign language to me here. But at home I'm fine, I don't know what it is!

God. I love to drive in Houston. It's like I have a map of that city on the back of my eyeballs.

And..... Don't you come from Boston? I've heard that city is a bit of a maze.

star
01-26-2004, 12:00 AM
See there you go with north/south/east/west business. it baffles me LOL

whichever one is out Bellaire Blvd.

West

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 12:06 AM
God. I love to drive in Houston. It's like I have a map of that city on the back of my eyeballs.

And..... Don't you come from Boston? I've heard that city is a bit of a maze.

well, may I borrow the back of your eyeballs, then? :)

I'm from the suburbs, it's easy to get around :)

and actually, I think I'd be able to get to the other chinatown too (it's right by the baseball stadium right?)

star
01-26-2004, 12:16 AM
well, may I borrow the back of your eyeballs, then? :)

I'm from the suburbs, it's easy to get around :)

and actually, I think I'd be able to get to the other chinatown too (it's right by the baseball stadium right?)

You've got it!! :)

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 12:17 AM
woohoo! :dance:

btw star you should see the light rail.... it's awesome!

star
01-26-2004, 12:20 AM
Is it done already???

I wonder if I will be able to use it in April. :)

star
01-26-2004, 12:21 AM
You know, I was there when Kathy Whitmire proposed the light rail system and she basically lost the election because of the outcry against it.

Crazy.

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 12:23 AM
Is it done already???

I wonder if I will be able to use it in April. :)

Yep it goes from downtown to the new Reliant stadium!

Sjengster
01-26-2004, 12:24 AM
I don't mean to intrude or anything, but out of interest, how did this thread progress from a Roddick vs Safin debate to a discussion on Houston's topography?

J. Corwin
01-26-2004, 12:24 AM
That's true, the foliage is wonderful.

but I HATE snow.

I've seen pics of the foliage...and it's incredible.

I'd imagine I'd hate snow too if it came down here often. Never any snow here, unless you count the trip to Yosemite. ;)

Leo
01-26-2004, 12:36 AM
I don't mean to intrude or anything, but out of interest, how did this thread progress from a Roddick vs Safin debate to a discussion on Houston's topography?

The same reason the heated Federer/Hewitt/Nalbandian debate became a serious and in-depth conversation on penises.

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 12:36 AM
I don't mean to intrude or anything, but out of interest, how did this thread progress from a Roddick vs Safin debate to a discussion on Houston's topography?

um..... I have no clue!!!!!!!!!!

star
01-26-2004, 12:50 AM
Yep it goes from downtown to the new Reliant stadium!

What is the reliant stadium?

star
01-26-2004, 12:52 AM
I don't mean to intrude or anything, but out of interest, how did this thread progress from a Roddick vs Safin debate to a discussion on Houston's topography?

Partially, because Bunk and I are involved. :)

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 12:52 AM
It's the big new football dome where the Super Bowl is taking place next week.... it's out Kirby, where Astroworld is and the old Astrodome was. the Light Rail goes from there all the way down Main/Fannin into downtown. like in a straight line.

star
01-26-2004, 12:52 AM
The same reason the heated Federer/Hewitt/Nalbandian debate became a serious and in-depth conversation on penises.

That was totally Scotso.

Bless his little heart. :)

Havok
01-26-2004, 12:56 AM
damn look at this threa go :drive:

Hingie
01-26-2004, 05:42 AM
Thanks everyone for the welcome!!! Heres hoping to a great match tomorrow. Go Safin!!!!!

the cat
01-26-2004, 03:01 PM
bunk, I found the voting peculiar, too. :confused: Safin is my favorite men's tennis player and I want him to win this match. But Safin is the clear underdog in this match and anyone who doesn't realize that isn't being fair. People voted for Safin because they like him more than they do Roddick. Well I like them both. Although I prefer Marat. Looking at this exciting matchup logically, Andy's playing much better tennis than Marat is and Marat missed most of last year and isn't in top form. If Safin had been playing well for a couple of months I would pick him in this match. But Roddick is the clear favorite. Marat's chance is to keep the match close and put some doubt in Roddick's mind. That way Safin could win a close match.

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 03:19 PM
bunk, I found the voting peculiar, too. :confused:

well, the cat, it doesn't seem like much logic goes into who votes for whom on a poll (and well, it's a silly message board poll so logic isn't really required lol)... it's just interesting b/c it's indicative of the atmosphere of MTF in general. Andy is my favorite player, but I know Marat has a good chance of winning. Since I am unsure of what the result will be, I did not vote. Maybe all the people who voted really are just uber-confident in their favorite player. If so that's great for them... that's just not how my brain works lol I always get nervous and I displace my nervous energy on other people than myself (I'm way more likely to get nervous about a tennis match than anything going on in my own life).

And though I'm nervous, I will be ok with whatever happens because I know that if Andy loses it wasn't for lack of preparation or hard work or trying. He (almost) always goes down fighting hard til the end, and that's one of the reasons I like him so I won't be disappointed. and if Andy wins I would hope that Marat's fans won't be disappointed either as he's made a fabulous comeback already and is showing everyone that he's back and still a force to be reckoned with.

I'm glad it's a night match so it's overnight for me so I can't be here. I don't like this "war" that appears to be ready to break out. I don't think it can end well no matter who wins. :sad:

qliz2000
01-26-2004, 07:55 PM
if Andy wins I would hope that Marat's fans won't be disappointed either as he's made a fabulous comeback already and is showing everyone that he's back and still a force to be reckoned with.


cat, bunk, well said

I'm thinking that it will be a close match.
If Marat plays as well as he has been doing, he could win the match.
His tennis is better than Roddick.

Ultimately, if he loses, it doesn’t mean that he stinks, or anything, or that Roddick is better.

Like you guys have been saying, Marat is coming back from an injury and a few months off. His performance already is amazing.

If he does win, it’ll probably be in 5, and it should be an interesting match. Maybe the match of the Quarterfinals.

Havok
01-26-2004, 08:01 PM
qliz2000, you contradicted yourself there. i agree whatever happens happens, and the better player will win. but you said that if Marat plays well he can beat Roddick. therefore he played better tennis. but then you go and say if Roddick wins, its not because he's better:confused:

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 09:13 PM
My point was not that whoever wins is better, but whoever wins will have PLAYED BETTER IN THIS ONE MATCH. I'm not a fan of the "So and so is more talented" bull.

My point is that it doesn't need to turn into a fight, but if you read much around this board, you'd know it's almost inevitable, and that just makes me sad.

If I thought that if Andy loses I could come to this board and see people say "yay Marat but nice effort Andy" then I wouldn't be saying this. but by and large, that's not going to happen, so I'll just stay away and avoid the situation :)

Oh and I just want to add that I'm not putting a double standard on those who are Marat fans/Andy haters. Plenty of Andy fans are baiting the Marat fans too.. and I just personally do not want to be involved :)

the cat
01-26-2004, 09:19 PM
bunk, logic has to enter into this at some point. I want Safin to win. But I think Roddick will win because he's in great form while Safin is just coming back from a long injury. Advantage Roddick. It was a rather simple deduction on my part.

I suppose I'm one of the few fans whose 2 favorite men's tennis players are Marat Safin and Andy Roddick.

andylover_16
01-26-2004, 09:30 PM
qliz2000, you contradicted yourself there. i agree whatever happens happens, and the better player will win. but you said that if Marat plays well he can beat Roddick. therefore he played better tennis. but then you go and say if Roddick wins, its not because he's better:confused:

i was kind of thinking the same thing:scratch:..oh well


GO RODDICK!

andylover_16
01-26-2004, 09:32 PM
I suppose I'm one of the few fans whose 2 favorite men's tennis players are Marat Safin and Andy Roddick.


their is nothing wrong with that:)

Deboogle!.
01-26-2004, 09:36 PM
bunk, logic has to enter into this at some point. I want Safin to win. But I think Roddick will win because he's in great form while Safin is just coming back from a long injury. Advantage Roddick. It was a rather simple deduction on my part.

I suppose I'm one of the few fans whose 2 favorite men's tennis players are Marat Safin and Andy Roddick.

Well the tautological answer would be that only those who are capable of using logic can use it ;)

As for your being a fan of both, I think it's great. I don't have any problems with Marat and in fact from what I've seen I like... I just have not seen enough to make up my mind about him yet. :)

Lisbeth
01-26-2004, 09:44 PM
I think Roddick has to start favourite just because Safin is still on the comeback trail while Roddick is on a high ... but I would never, ever underestimate Safin's raw ability. I would say there's a 33% chance of an upset.

Tennis Fool
01-27-2004, 11:38 AM
Funny to read these comments after Marat's victory. Oh, some Marat fans who didn't vote :points to self: ye of so little faith...

and to those like Andy16, #1 Roddick loses to a "washed up" Safin
:lol:

TheBoiledEgg
01-27-2004, 11:43 AM
just think when Marat is 100% match tight and has more confidence :tape:

Chloe le Bopper
01-27-2004, 11:49 AM
Funny to read these comments after Marat's victory. Oh, some Marat fans who didn't vote :points to self: ye of so little faith...

and to those like Andy16, #1 Roddick loses to a "washed up" Safin
:lol:
hehe... glad somebody else bumped this up ;)

Apologies to the Roddick fans who have NOT acted obnoxiously. It's a shame that those who do have to ruin it for the rest.

Tennis Fool
01-27-2004, 11:53 AM
just think when Marat is 100% match tight and has more confidence :tape:

Not only that but one more loss by Rodduck, and he becomes OAF's bagel boy :)

TheBoiledEgg
01-27-2004, 12:00 PM
and one more thing

Duck lost to the World No 86 :haha: :rolls: :lol:

Kiara
01-27-2004, 12:14 PM
hehe bump bump bump :D :D :D

Tennis Fool
01-27-2004, 12:16 PM
and one more thing

Duck lost to the World No 86 :haha: :rolls: :lol:

An World No 86 cripple to boot :lol: :lol: :lol:

tangerine_dream
01-27-2004, 03:00 PM
and one more thing

Duck lost to the World No 86 :haha: :rolls: :lol:

Now Eggy, you know rankings don't really matter because after all, Andy was never the TRUE No. 1. That was Federer. ;)

jmp
01-27-2004, 10:01 PM
Tennis Fool, you should have known to put it all on the line for DA MAN! :worship: :cool: ;)

Congrats to Andy for fighting the good fight, showing his heart, and showing good sportsmanship. :)

Burrow
11-12-2008, 04:26 PM
I reckon Marat and he lost in the quarters of wimbledon in 2001 by the way but this is going 5 sets.

W!MBLEDON
11-12-2008, 05:04 PM
what the fuck

Johnny Groove
11-12-2008, 05:22 PM
I reckon Marat and he lost in the quarters of wimbledon in 2001 by the way but this is going 5 sets.

You are the dumbest fucker on the board

Come on man, what was the point of this bump?