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Let the REAL tennis begin. on the green green grass!

revolution
06-11-2006, 05:27 PM
I'm sooooooooooooo happy! :cool: :woohoo: :yeah:

The clay is over and now the beautiful green grass is here! :angel:

My fave time of the year always, bring on Queens/Halle!

Although I hope Roger doesn't win yet again, we need a new champion :o

Chloe le Bopper
06-11-2006, 05:32 PM
The REAL tennis. As opposed to on all those other surfaces where they play badminton.

supersexynadal
06-11-2006, 05:41 PM
If clay wasnt real tennis then fed should be the one with the 6-1 head to head aginst rafa. People just say that clay isnt real tennis coz americans were never able to win on clay! There even too scarred to make there so called clay courts clay color. A great payer is one who can adapt to all surfaces and all situations and so far the closest to that is federer. DUH!

Neely
06-11-2006, 05:53 PM
(hey, normally it's my job to make the grass court propaganda threads *g* )

Tennis on grass here! :banana: :banana: Let the fun begin! :D :smoke: :cool:
:woohoo: :woohoo:

Neely
06-11-2006, 05:56 PM
People just say that clay isnt real tennis coz americans were never able to win on clay!
Just going not further back than 15 years, Courier was a repeat champion at Roland Garros (like Nadal today) and Agassi won not too long ago, too. :) And not going to mention the US women who won it... :)

NicoFan
06-11-2006, 05:59 PM
Just going not further back than 15 years, Courier was a repeat champion at Roland Garros (like Nadal today) and Agassi won not too long ago, too. :) And not going to mention the US women who won it... :)

True.

And Chrissy's record - 125 consecutive clay court wins. :yeah:

Neely
06-11-2006, 06:04 PM
True.

And Chrissy's record - 125 consecutive clay court wins. :yeah:
Yes, these players with (USA) behind their names really have never ever in the history of tennis done something on clay... ( ;) )

prima donna
06-11-2006, 06:07 PM
Amen.

Scotso
06-11-2006, 06:47 PM
If tennis = serving :shrug:

Jimnik
06-11-2006, 06:51 PM
We've finally entered the fast court season. From now on, I don't expect Federer to lose any more matches for the rest of the year.

jenanun
06-11-2006, 07:12 PM
unfortunately the grass season is not long enough...

just 5 weeks.....

Fee
06-11-2006, 07:18 PM
Tennis comes home to the land and surface that invented it!!!! :yippee:

Scotso
06-11-2006, 07:32 PM
Tennis comes home to the land and surface that invented it!!!! :yippee:

Tennis was invented in France. :p

DDrago2
06-11-2006, 07:35 PM
Tennis on grass IS real tennis because it is here where the more skilfull, the more naturaly talented wins. It's like in art - it's not about how badly you want, it's about how good you are.
Let the real games begin!

Solid_Snake
06-11-2006, 07:35 PM
Grass is by far my favorite surface.

I wish Grass season was as long as Clay season.

Neely
06-11-2006, 07:57 PM
:bigwave: Be welcome all grass lovers! :wavey: :hug:
I'm glad there are a few who admit their love to tennis on this surface :cool:

yes, jenanun, it would be cool if the grass season had near as many weeks as the tournaments taking place on hardcourt and clay :sad:
5 weeks? :eek: I see you already counted Newport :yeah:

Raquel
06-11-2006, 08:02 PM
If tennis = serving :shrug:
I don't think there is that many more aces served on grass compared to hard and indoor nowadays. Players like Ljubicic, Karlovic, Roddick will serve aces on pretty much any surface. Grass tennis has changed quite a bit from the 1990s aces fests. Players like Hewitt, Nalbandian, Grosjean, Kiefer, Thomas Johansson have all had pretty good grass results over the last 5/6 years playing the same style they would on hard courts.

I think it's great tennis has this variety. I enjoy tennis on clay but it's nice to see some different styles of matches after a couple of months of long topspin battles.

stebs
06-11-2006, 08:16 PM
I love grass, another change. All the surfaces require different skills and grass is a nice contrast from clay.

Clay: fight = 4/10 talent = 3/10 fitness = 3/10

Grass: fight = 1/10 fitness = 3/10 talent = 6/10 :)

propi
06-11-2006, 08:41 PM
Time for Feli to wake up :bounce::bounce::bounce::woohoo:

Deivid23
06-11-2006, 08:44 PM
Time for Feli to wake up :bounce::bounce::bounce::woohoo:

Time for Feli to fall out top 60 :D

stebs
06-11-2006, 08:44 PM
It's Ivo time :)

tangerine_dream
06-11-2006, 08:45 PM
Yay! Grass stains on Rafa's pants. :banana:

propi
06-11-2006, 08:46 PM
Time for Feli to fall out top 60 :D
Sorry but I can't take seriously any post coming from someone with El niño Torres as avatar :p

joeb_uk
06-11-2006, 08:47 PM
You have been smoking the grass joey!!

Man grass court tennis :eek: , try watching a week of the grasscourt specialists such as arthurs, moodie, fish, etc at event like surbiton and you will realise how boring it is. At least with the womens game on grass players dont dominate by their serve.

Deivid23
06-11-2006, 08:48 PM
Sorry but I can't take seriously any post coming from someone with El niño Torres as avatar :p

I will bump this thread if u want after grass season is over, we can see then where´s LaLo at that point in the rankings :p

joeb_uk
06-11-2006, 08:49 PM
I love grass, another change. All the surfaces require different skills and grass is a nice contrast from clay.

Clay: fight = 4/10 talent = 3/10 fitness = 3/10

Grass: fight = 1/10 fitness = 3/10 talent = 6/10 :)

You are forgetting in some occasions power and serve on grass outweigh talent, and fitness hugely! Thats the boring part.

stebs
06-11-2006, 08:54 PM
You are forgetting in some occasions power and serve on grass outweigh talent, and fitness hugely! Thats the boring part.
Only in the lower realms of tennis. At the top talent is the most important, maybe he is not liked but there is no denying that Roddick has huge talent and I don't think anybody would question Fed's.

Raquel
06-11-2006, 08:57 PM
try watching a week of the grasscourt specialists such as arthurs, moodie, fish, etc at event like surbiton and you will realise how boring it is.
I think maybe Moodie and Arthurs are specialists on grass at somewhere like Surbiton with Challenger-level depth. I don't see them lasting long at Wimbledon though. And Fish? I thought he was a clay court specialist these days? :p

propi
06-11-2006, 08:59 PM
I will bump this thread if u want after grass season is over, we can see then where´s LaLo at that point in the rankings :p
Well you don't have to, but I sense you'd enjoy doing it :p
I know Feli's playing bad currently and he has 1/4 points to defends, but I can still be optimistic... people still thinks Spain is favourite for Football World Cup :p
You may say I'm a dreamer

But I'm not the only one

I hope someday you'll join us

And the world will be as one
:p
Vamos Feli and Paradorn :bounce:

revolution
06-11-2006, 09:04 PM
Deivid I picked Bracciali to beat LaLo in Queen's :lol:

Grass tennis is different these days- you need more than a serve to be a threat. Gonzalez, Nalbandian, Federer, Gasquet have all been major grass threats recently. Anyone who seen Gonzalez' match with Joachim Johansson last year would have realised that tennis on grass has evolved- the big server was ripped to shreds by the inventive player.

Bring on Queen's, we'll see good matches :D

supersexynadal
06-11-2006, 09:05 PM
If anyone here plays on clay ull know how hard it is to be consistent. Im not and its hard to change. I play on clay everyday of my life but the day i play on hard, its much better. Its not only about "baseline rallies". We dont see it on tv clearly but changing pace is a must. Being patient within the point is hard enough. Its MUCH tougher to make clear winnerscoz sometimes its returned and playing and thinking of where to put the ball next is hard and FRUSTRATING. Grass has its good side too but ive never played on grass so i cnt talk

ChloeLove
06-11-2006, 09:45 PM
'REAL' tennis? Tennis is tennis, and that's a pussy excuse. :lol: A true tennis fan, appreciates all surfaces. However, I do enjoy the green grass, it gives unfit guys like Murray a chance.

scoobs
06-11-2006, 09:47 PM
'REAL' tennis? Tennis is tennis, and that's a pussy excuse. :lol: A true tennis fan, appreciates all surfaces. However, I do enjoy the green grass, it gives unfit guys like Murray a chance.
Heh - you do remember the cramping against Johansson and Nalbandian last year, right?

Grass just gives him a softer surface to dramatically pirouette onto. :)

Deboogle!.
06-11-2006, 10:10 PM
Grass!! :hearts: I was watching this thing on TTC last night, it was DAvis Cup highlights from 1947. Grass tennis has come a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way.

cobalt60
06-11-2006, 10:14 PM
Grass!! :hearts: I was watching this thing on TTC last night, it was DAvis Cup highlights from 1947. Grass tennis has come a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong way.
:D Did you watch the USTA Futures/college program too? Interesting information :yeah:

Merton
06-11-2006, 10:15 PM
The Mountains are High, and the Emperor lives in Basel.

scoobs
06-11-2006, 10:16 PM
The Mountains are High, and the Emperor lives in Basel.
Well that was good and cryptic :)

Merton
06-11-2006, 10:22 PM
Well that was good and cryptic :)

I just paraphrased a Chinese proverb, changing Basel for Beijing :D You can also see the version "The Mountains are High, and the Emperor lives far, far away". I don't think it is cryptic at all.

zicofirol
06-11-2006, 10:27 PM
If tennis = serving :shrug:
What takes more talent, to serve and volley, use slices and mixt it up or stand 10 ft from the baseline just hitting groundstrokes??

Also you make it sound as if the serve is something all teniss players have, bs, a good serve just like any other aspect takes time to learn and develop, look at how many players cant serve that well, that shows you how hard it is to really have a good serve.

Neely
06-12-2006, 12:25 PM
:banana: :banana: Yeah, I'm watching the first grass matches of the season!!! :inlove: :drool: :D

Kristen
06-12-2006, 12:42 PM
I love the grass. I never see any clay, and like to think most of my guys are crap on it, even if a couple of them won titles, incl. Grand Slam doubles :tape:

It does make me miss Alexander Popp, and when Newport comes around I tend to resent Greg Rusedski more than usual.

Golfnduck
06-12-2006, 12:42 PM
The grass season is by far my favorite part of the year. I think they should take away one of the clay masters (specifically Hamburg) and replace it with a grass masters :smoke:

alfonsojose
06-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Grass :inlove: :inlove:

Neely
06-16-2006, 10:48 AM
Very nice start to the grass season, I'm enjoying it very much to see the different style of play again after clay :)

I think we have interesting QFs today, especially in Queen's IMO :yeah:

:banana:

jenanun
06-16-2006, 11:32 AM
'REAL' tennis? Tennis is tennis, and that's a pussy excuse. :lol: A true tennis fan, appreciates all surfaces. However, I do enjoy the green grass, it gives unfit guys like Murray a chance.

in fact,

tennis is tennis (aka lawn tennis)

real tennis is real tennis (aka royal tennis or court tennis)

different racquet, different ball, different court (not neccesarily grass)...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_tennis

madmanfool
06-16-2006, 01:35 PM
Whash off the red dirt! Mow your lawn! ah, don't you just love the smell of green gras :p !!!

I love this thread, you people rule :woohoo:

JMG
06-23-2006, 09:39 PM
Does anyone know how good the grass courts are in Futures? There are 3 Futures in Great Britain and last year there were 2 grass court tournaments in Australia.
Do they have a good quality or is it more like a mowed football field?

DDrago2
06-23-2006, 10:03 PM
There is only one future, JMG.

Neely
06-23-2006, 10:42 PM
Does anyone know how good the grass courts are in Futures? There are 3 Futures in Great Britain and last year there were 2 grass court tournaments in Australia.
Do they have a good quality or is it more like a mowed football field?
Sorry, no idea. But are you asking because Petzschner plays there?

Sjengster
06-23-2006, 10:57 PM
There is only one future, JMG.

A budding philosopher in your spare time Drago, I am impressed.

oneandonlyhsn
06-23-2006, 11:00 PM
A little late but :yippee: green grass, a sight for my sore eyes

Neely
06-23-2006, 11:13 PM
A little late but :yippee: green grass, a sight for my sore eyes
You sound like me!!!! :eek:
:angel: I think I used the same words "a sight for my sore eyes" one or two years ago in a similiar grass propaganda thread :worship: ;)

anyway, enough with the claying around for already two weeks now and still more than two weeks of pure, elitist grasscourt tennis coming up (at least on ATP level), finally a surface again that doesn't slow down good shots... All four Slams are Slams and give equal points and almost equal prize money for winnig it, but Wimbledon is the true thing that matters, irrespective of how much people want to disrespect it because "tennis is suited to the English speaking world" or because there is a "bias for fastcourters" or whatever.

JMG
06-23-2006, 11:40 PM
Sorry, no idea. But are you asking because Petzschner plays there?

No. ;) I just wanted to write something in this thread.

bad gambler
06-23-2006, 11:50 PM
:lol:

lordmanji
06-24-2006, 12:10 AM
grass season should be longer. it lasts only a month whereas the others last 2+ months. i think thats one reason why many consider it not to be real tennis. come to think of it, there isnt even a masters tournament on grass either like there is on hard or clay courts.

Neely
06-24-2006, 12:44 AM
No. ;) I just wanted to write something in this thread.
;) okay, very good http://www.mainzelahr.de/smile/cool/yo.gif

grass season should be longer. it lasts only a month whereas the others last 2+ months. i think thats one reason why many consider it not to be real tennis. come to think of it, there isnt even a masters tournament on grass either like there is on hard or clay courts.
Yes absolutely. This is often a discussion and I agree with you that there should be AT LEAST one Masters on grass and one with an International Series Gold status.

supersexynadal
06-24-2006, 08:40 AM
people who thing grass is real tennis are people whose favorite players play best on grass. Im sorry but its so naiive to think grass is the only real tennis around and that clay courters have no style and game. I personally dont like serve and volley style but that doesnt mean grass tennis isnt real. Its just not m favorite surface

Allez
06-24-2006, 10:01 AM
Grass is the original surface :worship: . It's natural :D . Easy on the eyes and on your clothes too ;) . You can do all sorts of crazy stuff on it :eek: . We'll be seeing dive volleys galore over the next fortnight :bounce::bounce::bounce:. Yes, we all love the green green grass. :banana: :yippee: :banana:

Neverstopfightin
06-24-2006, 10:04 AM
A surface where a lot of matches can be won only due to one shot ( serve ) I think it can't be considered as the real surface for playing tennis.

If we had to choose the representative surface in tennis I would say hardcourts . It's the intermediate court between fast and slow courts and it's the surface where serve&volleyers and baseliners had the chance of making his playstyle almost in equal conditions.

A match on grass between Gasquet and Federer is very funny :hearts:, but a match between Karlovic and Roddick as it happened last year at Queen's is a waste of time if you want to see an interesting thing on TV (IMO)

Allez
06-24-2006, 10:07 AM
But they've slowed the grass down over the last few years. The era of big servers is over...

kindablue
06-24-2006, 10:09 AM
;)

Neverstopfightin
06-24-2006, 10:24 AM
But they've slowed the grass down over the last few years. The era of big servers is over...

Nowadays grasscourts are slower than in previous years but players with very good serve keep being playing the finals on grass unlike baseliners with crappy serves. Your point of view seems to be excessively pessimistic.

For example two last seasons:

*Queen's 05 : Roddick-Karlovic
*Halle 05 : Federer-Safin
*Nottingham 05 : Gasquet-Mirnyi
*s-Hertogenbosch 05: Ancic-Llodra
*Wimbledon 05: Federer-Roddick
* Newport 05: Rusedski-Spadea
*Queen's 06: Hewitt-Blake
*Halle 06 : Federer-Berdych
*Nottingham 06: Gasquet-Mirnyi
*s-Hertogenbosch 06 : Ancic-Hernych

Maybe I'm blind :rolleyes: but i would say this list is plenty of very good servers except a few exceptions

PS: If some big serves were able to do something more than only serving as for example Karlovic their era wouldn't be in extinction :lol: ( I don't think they are in extinction but i'm supposing Allez's theory is true only for posting this PS )

Action Jackson
06-24-2006, 01:09 PM
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DrJules
06-24-2006, 01:21 PM
Your title is misleading.

"Real Tennis" was an earlier and different sport. What we call tennis today was originally called "Lawn Tennis" to differentiate it from "Real Tennis".

revolution
06-24-2006, 02:48 PM
I can't believe the outrage and offense caused at this thread!

Neely
06-24-2006, 10:37 PM
Neverstopfighting, I can see your point when you are trying to present the facts that big servers are still more likely to make it far at grass tournaments than on other types of surface.

But it's also crap to think that grass is only serve or power or so. You can have as many bad or boring matches on clay or hardcourt as well.

Or why did Hewitt win Wimbledon?
Or why does Federer dominate grass like nobody before probably? (not because he serves 230km/h or 40 aces each match)
Or why does Nalbandian play well and made the final and other good results?
Or why is Rochus more than a capable grass court player over many years already?

These guys actually give effors and have key elements which make them play better on grass than others and risk good shots themselves or/and can handle the fast conditions good enough and don't have to rely on the surface to slow down the shots of their opponets. But it's surely more their extraordinary serving which gets them to this point, if at all. Well, if Gaudio, Acasuso & Co choose not to turn up at Wimbledon, they just are too lazy to put an effort into it trying to become a complete player and rather prepare to snub a whole Slam.

Also always another neglected question is:
How do all these said-to-be pathetic returners like Roddick, Rusedski, Karlovic get their returning points, their breaks of serve?
Yes, Roddick and all these others must really suck a lot in returning when they frequently break their opponents' serves on the fastest surface (which of course makes serves the most difficult to return, requires better reaction time etc.) better than their opponents.

It's a whole different style of play which requires other abilities and features in your game than two meter high topspin balls over the nets which are maybe very dangerous on some spin-adapting hardcourts or on clay (yes, I am exaggerating now :p ). And this is good so! :) :smoke:

heya
06-24-2006, 11:18 PM
Federer, with Roddick's poor footwork and indifference, wouldn't even be ranked in the top 2.

eddie_hyden
06-25-2006, 03:55 AM
You are forgetting in some occasions power and serve on grass outweigh talent, and fitness hugely! Thats the boring part.

yup, looks who's with big serve and nothing else at the wimby final twice in a row...

heya
06-25-2006, 05:04 AM
Poor folks don't realize that some players didn't start serving big until they were 16 years old.

BAMJ6
06-25-2006, 05:10 AM
If Agassi gets by Nadal, it'll be the final weekend of a slam for the second staright event played by Agassi

DrJules
06-25-2006, 08:05 AM
Also always another neglected question is:
How do all these said-to-be pathetic returners like Roddick, Rusedski, Karlovic get their returning points, their breaks of serve?
Yes, Roddick and all these others must really suck a lot in returning when they frequently break their opponents' serves on the fastest surface (which of course makes serves the most difficult to return, requires better reaction time etc.) better than their opponents.




Why they invented the tie-break :lol: :lol: :lol:

supersexynadal
06-25-2006, 09:23 AM
I dont see how people thing think its real tennis. Clay is NOT just an exchange of balls. Just try lsting in long rallies and tell me about it. Grass is BOOOORING

Kristen
06-25-2006, 11:21 AM
God forbid!
Opinions on MTF :tape: :bolt:

admiralpye
06-25-2006, 11:30 AM
grass season should be longer. it lasts only a month whereas the others last 2+ months. i think thats one reason why many consider it not to be real tennis. come to think of it, there isnt even a masters tournament on grass either like there is on hard or clay courts.

Does anybody know the "official" reason why there aren't more grass tournaments in a season compared to clay and hardcourts (is maintenance the only factor)?

And how exactly can you "slow down" a grass court? Less grass? Shorter grass blades?

supersexynadal
06-25-2006, 12:51 PM
Does anybody know the "official" reason why there aren't more grass tournaments in a season compared to clay and hardcourts (is maintenance the only factor)?

And how exactly can you "slow down" a grass court? Less grass? Shorter grass blades?

I was reading an article once but didnt understand y. It said that countries that dont have grass courts ae countries where it doesnt rain a lot. Doesnt really make sense but maybe the sun is harmful to the type of grass sheets used??

Neely
06-26-2006, 08:23 AM
:rocker: Wimbledon just a few hours ahead! Bring it on finally! :rocker2:

kindablue
06-26-2006, 08:55 AM
:rocker: Wimbledon just a few hours ahead! Bring it on finally! :rocker2:

If the weather allows :(

Neely
06-26-2006, 08:59 AM
If the weather allows :(
damn, don't get me down now! I didn't check for the weather and think of it which would be of course useful because the weather is mostly a component at Wimbledon...

ezekiel
06-26-2006, 09:02 AM
If the weather allows :(

I am just seeing this , 90% rain sounds bad,
http://weather.yahoo.com/forecast/UKXX0085.html

Today: Periods of rain. High 62F. Winds NNE at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch.

Action Jackson
06-26-2006, 10:48 AM
If the weather allows :(

Grass needs rain for it grow.

joeb_uk
06-26-2006, 11:00 AM
I have come to the conclusion, that wta tennis is actually better to watch on grass than ATP :eek: :eek: Well apart from a few atp players who can make it seem fairly bearable to watch.

Aleksa's Laydee
06-26-2006, 11:04 AM
:rocker: Wimbledon just a few hours ahead! Bring it on finally! :rocker2:

:worship: :worship: yaaay :wavey:

Neely
06-27-2006, 08:43 AM
The Ministry sends its special salutes to:

Gaudio - for playing Wimbledon again, be welcome! :wavey:
Calleri - he will need some luck, his grass court record isn't that impressive with only one career win
Ramirez-Hidalgo - for not snubbing Wimbledon again and again and so he finally will be getting his 2nd career match on grass under his belt today (if the weather permits). I would say, not bad for a 28 year-old! :)
Portas - he managed to win back-to-back matches at Wimbledon and furthermore I acknowledge that he was trying in the past, playing even some optional grass events in which he unfortunately always faced capable grasscourters like Schalken, Kiefer or Federer early, otherwise his record would be better. Good luck, son! :yeah:

alfonsojose
06-30-2006, 06:59 PM
Grass :yeah:

Jogy
06-30-2006, 11:05 PM
grass suck a bit because Federer win all time :o

PamposCypriot
06-30-2006, 11:55 PM
Gary Lineker said once: “Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans win”

Wimbledon is a tournament were 128 players hit the ball from the one to the other and eventually federer wins

heya
07-01-2006, 01:50 AM
That "exciting tiebreak" in the Federer match and service game broken by Mahut, were highly entertaining. Thank goodness for Federer's amazing existence.

ugotlobbed
07-01-2006, 07:04 AM
hell yea billy bob grass owns clay, clay is for poor ppl

Neely
07-03-2006, 01:12 PM
:worship:

Some enormous respect goes out to Nadal and Ferrer because of their achievements last week.

Ferrer once again proves he is even capable of beating good people on fast surfaces. I unfortunately did see nothing of his match against Gonzalez, but he was down by two sets! :eek: Now he has made two hardcourt TMS and a 2nd week/fourth round at Wimbledon on grass.

Nadal: I value his determination to play on grass, to respect it and want to achieve something very high and appreciate it. You know, how in the past many people did it who won RG or did very well during the claycourt season, he could have just not cared about it. But he had his little breakthrough at Wimbledon some years ago and he knows what a frigging huge number this tournament is. His strong mind put him through against Kendrick who threw everything at him. It's a bit sad that he ended Agassi's last Wimbledon appearance so clearly in three sets, but he deserved to go on. I can enjoy his grasscourt game very much too. A good change in his game regarding his 2nd serve. Also a few forehands were more a killer weapon on grass now.

Neely
07-10-2006, 08:03 AM
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What a joke, grass court season is already over again :banghead: :banghead: and now we have these non-sense post-Wimbledon claycourt tournaments again. Why not hold them before Wimbledon and concentrate on the hardcourt season now? :confused: :o


But don't wanna complain too much now because, as always, the green stuff was fun :D :yippee:

Action Jackson
07-10-2006, 08:04 AM
It's too long, glad it's over, though Newport is the tournament of champions.

revolution
07-10-2006, 12:02 PM
It's too short :p

WHERE'S OUR AMS EVENT ATP!!!! :banghead:

kindablue
07-10-2006, 04:05 PM
though Newport is the tournament of champions.

:lol: I 'm so glad Marcos has withdrawn!

DrJules
07-10-2006, 07:39 PM
It's too long, glad it's over, though Newport is the tournament of champions.

:scratch: It is only 4 weeks long. That makes it the shortest surface season of all. Hard courts, particularly, and clay have far longer. Even indoor carpets have a longer season.

It is ridiculous that a grand slam event only has a 2 week build up. Gap between Wimbledon and French Open should be expanded to 4 weeks to have a proper build up to one of the 4 biggest events of the tennis calender.

DrJules
07-10-2006, 07:44 PM
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What a joke, grass court season is already over again :banghead: :banghead: and now we have these non-sense post-Wimbledon claycourt tournaments again. Why not hold them before Wimbledon and concentrate on the hardcourt season now? :confused: :o


But don't wanna complain too much now because, as always, the green stuff was fun :D :yippee:

It rather inconsistent having clay court events in the year after the French Open and grass court events after Wimbledon (i.e. Newport). The season needs to make more sense.

Natural flow should be hard court/rebound ace events to AO, clay court events to FO, grass court events to Wimbledon, hard court events to US Open and indoor events until year end masters which should be indoors. :unsure: I am sure the ATP would consider such common sense madness.

GlennMirnyi
07-30-2006, 05:12 PM
It's absurd that in 9 MS, there's 3 on clay, 5 on hard, just one in a really fast surface: carpet and NO MS ON GRASS!!!

Neely
07-30-2006, 05:45 PM
It's absurd that in 9 MS, there's 3 on clay, 5 on hard, just one in a really fast surface: carpet and NO MS ON GRASS!!!
Bingo, there should be one!

related: there are quite many outcries for a Masters on grass
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=74857
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=40420
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=32065
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=6508

revolution
07-30-2006, 06:19 PM
Neely!!! I haven't spoke to you in long time :sad:

DrJules
07-30-2006, 07:33 PM
What about having 8 master series; 3 clay before FO, 1 grass before Wimbledon, 2 hard court before US Open and 2 carpet before masters on carpet. That seems fair to me, consistent with the seasons and reduce the total number from 9 to 8. Any opinions?