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PYW discussion thread (for losers like Stebs)

stebs
05-09-2006, 08:35 PM
A thread for general discussion of PYW. I guess that maybe I will be the only one to post in this thread. :sad: :)

CooCooCachoo
05-09-2006, 08:45 PM
PYW :rocker: :p

stebs
05-09-2006, 08:49 PM
PYW :rocker: :p
:wavey: Did you notice Rochus-Baggy in the first round of Rome? #1 vs #2 in the first round :devil: Only in PYW :worship:

CooCooCachoo
05-09-2006, 08:54 PM
I did not notice ;) It happens in WTA too :) It is funny. We had a really tough match Harkleroad v. Sprem in the first round of Prague :eek: Though both are not Top 15 :lol:

PYW is my creation so I am proud of it :angel:

stebs
05-09-2006, 08:57 PM
I did not notice ;) It happens in WTA too :) It is funny. We had a really tough match Harkleroad v. Sprem in the first round of Prague :eek: Though both are not Top 15 :lol:

PYW is my creation so I am proud of it :angel:
You created it :eek:

I bow before you :worship: :worship:

I never knew who created. Well done, it is the best game on MTF, the only one I play. So simple.

CooCooCachoo
05-09-2006, 09:00 PM
You created it :eek:

I bow before you :worship: :worship:

I never knew who created. Well done, it is the best game on MTF, the only one I play. So simple.

:lol: Thank you *Blushes*

PYW was voted into the Top 3 of most popular games on WTAWorld. And there are many games there and PAW is unbeatable. So I was really happy!

We even have ITF events there now, $50K and $75K events :) And qualifying. It's really popular and we have 700+ players ranked :eek:

NyGeL
05-10-2006, 05:33 AM
yeah, it's very complete and matches finish so fast (i think I only had the chance to vote once).

But there is no Fed Cup PYW like we have here with Davis Cup :)

CooCooCachoo
05-10-2006, 05:53 AM
yeah, it's very complete and matches finish so fast (i think I only had the chance to vote once).

But there is no Fed Cup PYW like we have here with Davis Cup :)

We did have it :) But it was in the off-season and it was a different format. Instead of using real teams, we made teams ourselves and Russia was allowed to send five teams or so. Otherwise it really depends on who is selected in real life and stuff and it becomes quite a hassle.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 07:07 AM
PYW is my creation so I am proud of it :angel:
Really? :eek: Wow! :worship::worship:
I rarely go to WTAW. In fact, I don't think I've been there for more than 2 or 3 times (and on one of these occasions I was spying on you guys playing the weakest link. Don't know if you remember :p) Anyway, thanks for bringing the game to MTF :worship:

CooCooCachoo
05-10-2006, 07:52 AM
:lol: Yes, I remember you spied and refused to play :nerner: :p

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 02:09 PM
Yeah, well I wasn't very familiar with the game. :p We had WL on tv in Romania 5 or 6 years ago but the show got cancelled shortly :rolleyes: Besides, my English isn't very good and I probably would have embarrassed myself there if I had played :p

Anyway, back to PYW. Oli lost in the second round in Rome. And he lost to Roddick of all ppl. No offence to the Roddick fans but he hardly ever wins matches in PYW and now all of a sudden he takes out the world #2. I never gave Roddick a chance. Guess I was wrong :p

stebs
05-10-2006, 02:39 PM
It's a shame. I would have liked Oli to do well and close the gap more between him and Baggy.

At RG are we going to have five sets from the start? I think we should, when there is only one tournament on and it's as big as RG many people go in the forum and I think the rounds will get done.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 02:54 PM
Yes, we should have 5 sets at RG.

stebs
05-10-2006, 02:55 PM
Yes, we should have 5 sets at RG.
Hooray. Glad someone agrees. It will be tough to find anyone who will be able to beat Marat over 5 sets.

He's the next PYW world number 1. Mark my words.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 03:06 PM
It will be tough to find anyone who will be able to beat Marat over 5 sets.
Tursy might have smth to say about that. :p Now with his blog and everything.. :p

stebs
05-10-2006, 03:16 PM
Tursy might have smth to say about that. :p Now with his blog and everything.. :p
He only just took out Feds in the Rome second round, the hysteria will die quickly.

What do you think about Rafa being a contender for RG? He hasn't shown much yet in PYW but if, as seems likely, he gets to the latter stages of it then maybe there will be some hype to get him a result.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 04:04 PM
I don't think Nadal will do much damage at RG. He only won 4 matches this year :p But of course, it depends on the draw. If he can avoid top players like Nieminen, JCF, Moya, Safin,... who knows what he'll do :p

stebs
05-10-2006, 04:06 PM
JCF is doing great lately. He will be a contender for sure.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 04:47 PM
I wouldn't mind Richie Gasquet winning RG :p

stebs
05-10-2006, 05:14 PM
I wouldn't mind Richie Gasquet winning RG :p
Richard is one of my three favourite players along with Roger and Gaston.

Roger already wins enough in real life and I have given up on Gaston so in PYW Ricchie is my fave.

On another note, power of the blog seems to be over. Niemenen is beating Dima 6-2 3-1 in the Rome third round. Juanqui lead 6-0 5-0 over Bracciali as well but he was saved from a double bagel.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 05:23 PM
Roddick is about to win 3 matches is a row :speakles: Shocking! :p This will do wonders to his ranking :p

stebs
05-10-2006, 05:24 PM
Roddick is about to win 3 matches is a row :speakles: Shocking! :p This will do wonders to his ranking :p
I wish Oli had beaten him.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 05:40 PM
Fabrice will take care of him. :devil: (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=520#)

Mara_M
05-10-2006, 05:59 PM
tursy :ras;..he likes to be called mitya..well,who knows who will be on fashion then :rolleyes:!
i'm thinking to become a pyw manager,but i guess u don't need any:awww:!

stebs
05-10-2006, 06:22 PM
tursy :ras;..he likes to be called mitya..well,who knows who will be on fashion then :rolleyes:!
i'm thinking to become a pyw manager,but i guess u don't need any:awww:!
ALways need more help with PYW. Updates for the opening rounds of AMS and slams take forever.

Tursunov closed the gap on Jarrko but it's now MP at 5-4 in the second set. Jarrko's been on good form lately. I can't say for sure but I guess that he will take over as world no.2 after Rome.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 06:28 PM
Nieminen needs to reach SF to become #2

Mara_M
05-10-2006, 06:31 PM
ok,so i must sign in in pyw managers thread?

stebs
05-10-2006, 06:32 PM
Nieminen needs to reach SF to become #2
He'd be favourite to reach the SF against either Verdasco or Acasuso in my eyes, assuming he comes through his 3rd round encounter.

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 06:34 PM
ok,so i must sign in in pyw managers thread?
:lol: You don't need to sign in anywhere :p Hey vsis, I didn't know you care so much about PYW :p Since when the sudden interest? :p

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 06:36 PM
He'd be favourite to reach the SF against either Verdasco or Acasuso in my eyes, assuming he comes through his 3rd round encounter.
He can handle Nando. But with Chucho, he'll have a tough match IMO :p

Mara_M
05-10-2006, 06:37 PM
when did i say i don't care abt pyw:eek:?i always wanted to run something,but i was always afraid this stupid net not to fell and the rankings get outdated...now if it fells i call u :p!

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 06:43 PM
when did i say i don't care abt pyw:eek:?i always wanted to run something,but i was always afraid this stupid net not to fell and the rankings get outdated...now if it fells i call u :p!
you can run PTS. :p I know sw is looking for managers. :p

Mara_M
05-10-2006, 06:51 PM
ignore this..idiot browser:ras:

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 06:56 PM
lol. I did a PAW tournament once and I didn't have Internet access for 3 days :mad: I know how frustrating it can be :mad:

Mara_M
05-10-2006, 06:57 PM
you can run PTS. :p I know sw is looking for managers. :p
why,SW is the boss?

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 06:57 PM
ignore this..idiot browser:ras:
already saw what it was :nerner:

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 07:00 PM
why,SW is the boss?
I think he was the one who brought the game from WTAW :p

Mara_M
05-10-2006, 07:00 PM
i know :p
i remember that tournament:p!anyway u should run paw again,i have the best result with u as admin:o!(:secret: not that i won't suck at paw or pts :o)!

scythe19pro
05-10-2006, 07:10 PM
They need managers for the tournamens in June but I have exams next month so...
Anyway we're way :topic: here. Let's just take this to our chat thread :p

CooCooCachoo
05-10-2006, 08:01 PM
Hooray. Glad someone agrees. It will be tough to find anyone who will be able to beat Marat over 5 sets.

He's the next PYW world number 1. Mark my words.

I disagree, personally. Best-of-five, as has been advocated sometimes on WTAWorld, would take away much of the excitement and unpredictability of the game. It would become very boring with the same players winning over and over again.

stebs
05-10-2006, 08:03 PM
I disagree, personally. Best-of-five, as has been advocated sometimes on WTAWorld, would take away much of the excitement and unpredictability of the game. It would become very boring with the same players winning over and over again.

Well, it would only be used in the slams as in real life. Otherwise the slams just seem like normal tournaments.

NyGeL
05-10-2006, 09:00 PM
I would like to see 5 sets matches :)

stebs
05-12-2006, 02:53 PM
Roddick and Santoro are locked at 5-5 in the third in the Rome Quarters. I am shocked at this Roddick love, just goes to show what a couple of victories do for your popularity.

scythe19pro
05-12-2006, 03:08 PM
Who can stop A-Rod now? :lol: Oli was no match for him and now Fabrice is fighting hard to stay in the match :p

stebs
05-12-2006, 03:15 PM
Who can stop A-Rod now? :lol: Oli was no match for him and now Fabrice is fighting hard to stay in the match :p
I don't want Roddick to beat Fabrice :sad:

scythe19pro
05-12-2006, 03:30 PM
MP Rod :mad:

stebs
05-12-2006, 03:31 PM
Roddick beats Santoro :mad:

scythe19pro
05-12-2006, 03:38 PM
Roddick beats Santoro :mad:
:hug:
Go ToJo/Gonzo in SF!! :banana:

stebs
05-12-2006, 03:44 PM
PYW rules.
theres a nice battle between ferrero and safin
Yes, I hope for JCF to come out victorious but Safin is the more likely.

stebs
05-12-2006, 03:48 PM
In fact all of the quarter finals are fairly tight.

Roddick beat Santoro 7-5 in the third.

JCF beat Safin 7-5 in the third.

ToJo leads Gonzo 4-2 in the third.

Niemenen leads Chucho 5-4 in the third.

stebs
05-12-2006, 04:16 PM
JCF :woohoo:
tojo's having a good comeback tourny, he'll boost up the rankings
Comeback's always produce good results, Joachim Johansson won a tournament in his comeback. Safin reached the semis.

scythe19pro
05-12-2006, 05:26 PM
With his QF win, Roddick is now at #29 (from #56) :tape:
ToJo is at #43 (from #100) :)

stebs
05-19-2006, 06:10 PM
Jarkko will be new no.1 when the new rankings come out. :yeah:

scythe19pro
05-19-2006, 08:28 PM
Jarkko will be new no.1 when the new rankings come out. :yeah:
Yes that's true. And Tursy will be #5 regardless of what happens in the final.
But why is Nieminen so popular? :confused: I don't really like the guy. What am I missing? :confused:
It will be tough to find anyone who will be able to beat Marat over 5 sets.

He's the next PYW world number 1. Mark my words.
You were saying Stebs? :p

scythe19pro
05-19-2006, 08:43 PM
And about RG and whether or not we should have 5 sets. I'm starting to have second thoughts about best of 5 sets matches in the first week. It took more then 24 h per round in the first days in Rome and Hamburg before all matches were finished. QF, SF and F - only a couple oh hrs. Maybe we should have best of 3 in the first week and best of 5 in the second. What do you guys think?
BTW, who's running PYW in first week of RG? :p

NyGeL
05-19-2006, 09:14 PM
I agree. Round 1 to 3 should be best of 3. Round of 16 to finals best of 5.

stebs
05-20-2006, 11:34 AM
Yes that's true. And Tursy will be #5 regardless of what happens in the final.
But why is Nieminen so popular? :confused: I don't really like the guy. What am I missing? :confused:

You were saying Stebs? :p

:o :o :p

Okay, he's the year end number 1. Mark my words ;)

stebs
05-20-2006, 11:36 AM
Okay, I agree with the five set thing. The first three rounds will be three sets and the last four rounds will be best of five sets.

Everyone will have to chip in during RG and Wimby's first two rounds.

scythe19pro
05-20-2006, 05:53 PM
:o :o :p

Okay, he's the year end number 1. Mark my words ;)
We'll see about that :p

stebs
05-20-2006, 06:06 PM
We'll see about that :p
Check out the stats thread. I made a long, stat filled post about Nieminen. Hope you like it.

NyGeL
05-23-2006, 04:14 AM
I'm running both tournaments this week... but I think the World Cup won't be finished :S

stebs
05-28-2006, 06:07 PM
The tourneys aren't being finished again. Leave it another day and Pavel Gasquet may well finish though.

RG has started and it's exciting. Safin got roasted in his first round match and he falls to Gonzo.

scythe19pro
05-28-2006, 09:17 PM
RG has started and it's exciting. Safin got roasted in his first round match and he falls to Gonzo.
not very good for a guy who's gonna finish #1 at the end of the year :p:p

stebs
05-29-2006, 12:56 PM
not very good for a guy who's gonna finish #1 at the end of the year :p:p
:eek: :o My prediction is going badly wrong. He has to go deep at Wimby.

Mara_M
05-29-2006, 01:16 PM
They need managers for the tournamens in June but I have exams next month so...
Anyway we're way :topic: here. Let's just take this to our chat thread :p
i can run PYW in june !and stebs,i agree,marat should be no ! :cool:!

stebs
05-29-2006, 01:23 PM
i can run PYW in june !and stebs,i agree,marat should be no ! :cool:!
I'm afraid I have no particular desire to see Marat as #1. He's a nice player but not a favourite of mine. I justthink he will eventually end up #1 but it looks like I could be wrong. Much to my horror :mad:

Mara_M
05-29-2006, 01:28 PM
well,i particularely like Marat and WANT him to win :angel:!

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 02:43 PM
well,i particularely like Marat and WANT him to win :angel:!
like???? That's such an understatment! :p You, just like 90% of MTF are :crazy: about him for reasons I'll never understand :rolleyes:

stebs
05-29-2006, 02:53 PM
like???? That's such an understatment! :p You, just like 90% of MTF are :crazy: about him for reasons I'll never understand :rolleyes:
But he can still be dominated by Gonzo. :p

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 03:06 PM
I never thought Gonzo would have such an easy match with Safin. I'm glad he won in straight sets :p Safin didn't even know what hit him :p

stebs
05-29-2006, 03:11 PM
I never thought Gonzo would have such an easy match with Safin. I'm glad he won in straight sets :p Safin didn't even know what hit him :p
I would be glad if I hadn't made my statement about Safin's ranking. :o

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 03:28 PM
Make another prediction if you like :p

stebs
05-29-2006, 05:59 PM
Make another prediction if you like :p
Okay, we each have to predict the PYW RG tourney

I predict this for the last 16:

Federer vs. Berdych
Ancic vs. Acasuso
Gasquet vs. Nieminen
Ferrero vs. Moya

Rochus vs. Baghdatis
Johansson vs. Simon
Blake vs. Gonzalez
Daniel vs. Mathieu

last 8:

Berdych vs. Acasuso
Gasquet vs. Ferrero

Rochus vs. Johansson
Gonzalez vs. Mathieu

last 4:

Acasuso vs. Ferrero
Rochus vs. Gonzalez

final:

Ferrero vs. Gonzalez

winner:

Ferrero


Okay, now you go. While I was making this prediction I noticed that the 2nd and 3rd quarters are much stronger for PYW than the 1st and 4th quarters.

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 06:25 PM
Ok. Let's see: :p

R16

Fed d. Berdych
Acasuso d. Ancic
Nieminen d. Tursunov
JCF d. Moya

Rochus d. Baghdatis
ToJo d. Ljubicic
Gozo d. Blake
PHM d. Karlovic

QF

Acasuso d. Fed
Nieminen d. JCF
ToJo d. Rochus
Gonzo d. PHM

SF

Nieminen d. Acasuso
Gonzo d. ToJo

F

Nieminen d. Gonzo

stebs
05-29-2006, 07:06 PM
Ok. Let's see: :p

R16

Fed d. Berdych
Acasuso d. Ancic
Nieminen d. Tursunov
JCF d. Moya

Rochus d. Baghdatis
ToJo d. Ljubicic
Gozo d. Blake
PHM d. Karlovic

QF

Acasuso d. Fed
Nieminen d. JCF
ToJo d. Rochus
Gonzo d. PHM

SF

Nieminen d. Acasuso
Gonzo d. ToJo

F

Nieminen d. Gonzo


Certainly a possibility. We have only 3 differences in our last 16 line up. ;)

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 07:22 PM
So, are you willing to bet your vCash on your PYW RG predictions? :p

Mara_M
05-29-2006, 07:33 PM
boo not nieminem again :lol:!

stebs
05-29-2006, 07:38 PM
So, are you willing to bet your vCash on your PYW RG predictions? :p
I'll bet my vCash on anything. I don't really care about vCash.

stebs
05-29-2006, 07:40 PM
boo not nieminem again :lol:!
You just can't handle the fact that it isn't Safin :p :devil:

Mara_M
05-29-2006, 07:42 PM
oh no,i didn't expect marat to win!the girls on his board don't usually come on games thareaads;)!

Mara_M
05-29-2006, 07:48 PM
like???? That's such an understatment! :p You, just like 90% of MTF are :crazy: about him for reasons I'll never understand :rolleyes:
cuz he's such a sweetie :p!

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 07:52 PM
You just can't handle the fact that it isn't Safin :p :devil:
:worship::worship::worship:

scythe19pro
05-29-2006, 07:57 PM
cuz he's such a sweetie :p!
we've already been through this in our chat thread. You know how I feel about him :p

scythe19pro
05-31-2006, 01:46 PM
Stebs, how come you're voting against Nadal? I thought he's one of your fav. players since you have him in your sig :p

stebs
05-31-2006, 03:39 PM
Stebs, how come you're voting against Nadal? I thought he's one of your fav. players since you have him in your sig :p
Lets just say I, um, respect him ;)

scythe19pro
05-31-2006, 08:14 PM
Oh yes. There is a big difference between liking someone and respecting someone ;)

stebs
06-02-2006, 07:21 PM
Soon we get five set matches :eek: A month or so ago we were getting floods of voters but now I'm not sure how we'll get through a match if it goes to five sets. Oh well, maybe there'll have to be some 'vote again' rounds.

scythe19pro
06-02-2006, 08:08 PM
yeah, where are the days when rounds were finishing in a few hrs? :awww: Maybe we should let best of 3 sets with no TB in the 3rd and only make the final best of 5.

stebs
06-02-2006, 11:15 PM
yeah, where are the days when rounds were finishing in a few hrs? :awww: Maybe we should let best of 3 sets with no TB in the 3rd and only make the final best of 5.
No. Please don't do that :sad: I really like the five sets. I say we stick to our decision and make 'em five set matches. We can use vote again if we need to and this place will get more visitors in the second week of a slam. If we don't do five sets from 4th round onwards it's just the same as a normal tournament.

Do I have you convinced?? :devil: Please. ;) :p

NyGeL
06-03-2006, 05:01 AM
4th Round (best of 5 matches) will be*:

[15]Federer vs [17]Berdych
[35]Ancic vs [9]Acasuso
[5]Tursunov vs [1]Nieminen
[20]Gaudio vs [7]Moya

[4]O.Rochus vs [60]Tipsarevic
[26]T.Johansson vs [40]Monaco
[22]Blake vs [12]F.Gonzalez
[45]Karlovic vs [21]Mathieu

* PYW Ranking between brackets.

scythe19pro
06-03-2006, 05:15 AM
5 sets it is :p I already started the thread to give ppl more time to vote.

stebs
06-03-2006, 07:34 PM
I predicted this for the last 16:

Federer vs. Berdych
Ancic vs. Acasuso
Gasquet vs. Nieminen
Ferrero vs. Moya

Rochus vs. Baghdatis
Johansson vs. Simon
Blake vs. Gonzalez
Daniel vs. Mathieu

You predicted this

Fed d. Berdych
Acasuso d. Ancic
Nieminen d. Tursunov
JCF d. Moya

Rochus d. Baghdatis
ToJo d. Ljubicic
Gozo d. Blake
PHM d. Karlovic

This is the real last 16.

[15]Federer vs [17]Berdych
[35]Ancic vs [9]Acasuso
[5]Tursunov vs [1]Nieminen
[20]Gaudio vs [7]Moya

[4]O.Rochus vs [60]Tipsarevic
[26]T.Johansson vs [40]Monaco
[22]Blake vs [12]F.Gonzalez
[45]Karlovic vs [21]Mathieu


I got 5 out of sixteen wrong, you got just 3 out of sixteen wrong. I guess you win.

stebs
06-03-2006, 07:34 PM
Also, five sets is going okay. So far we are havign enough voters and everything's going okay.

+alonso
06-03-2006, 07:43 PM
I can't believe people is choosing Karlovic :rolleyes: over PHM! :o!

stebs
06-03-2006, 07:44 PM
I can't believe people is choosing Karlovic :rolleyes: over PHM! :o!
Ivo, Ivo, Ivo. :devil: :devil: :p

scythe19pro
06-03-2006, 08:05 PM
I got 5 out of sixteen wrong, you got just 3 out of sixteen wrong. I guess you win.
:lol: Let's see if Nieminen will win RG :p
I can't believe people is choosing Karlovic :rolleyes: over PHM! :o!
yeah, I don't get it either :rolleyes: Poor PHM :sobbing:

+alonso
06-03-2006, 08:23 PM
yeah, I don't get it either :rolleyes: Poor PHM :sobbing:
Yeah, :( PHM played an awesome match against Rafa! I don't think Karlovic could have done that! :o!

Karlovic d. PHM :o [*fainting*] in 4 sets

stebs
06-03-2006, 08:28 PM
1.Roger Federer(SUI)..... vs 20.Tomas Berdych(CZE)..... | 2-6 6-7 6-1 6-1 0-0
12.Mario Ancic (CRO)..... vs 26.Jose Acasuso (ARG)...... | 6-2 2-6 7-6 2-3
31.Dmitry Tursunov(RUS).. lt 16.Jarkko Nieminen(FIN).... | 6-3 2-6 3-6 4-6
10.Gaston Gaudio (ARG)... vs 30.Carlos Moya (ESP)....... | 6-1 6-3 3-6 4-5 SP!!

27.Olivier Rochus (BEL).. d. Janko Tipsarevic (SCG)..... | 6-1 6-2 6-0
18.Thomas Johansson (SWE) d. Juan Monaco (ARG).......... | 6-3 6-0 3-6 6-2
8.James Blake (USA)...... vs 9.Fernando Gonzalez (CHI).. | 2-6 7-5 6-4 3-3
Ivo Karlovic (CRO)....... d. 29.Paul-Henri Mathieu (FRA) | 0-6 6-1 7-6 6-3

That's the way the round of 16 looks so quarters will be:

Fed/Berdych vs Ancic/Acasuso
Nieminen vs Gaudio/Moya

Rochus vs Johansson
Blake/Gonzalez vs Karlovic

Rochus, Gonzo and Nieminen all have a good chance to repeat the semi's they reached at the AO and Rochus reaching the final again is a real possibility.

Ivanatis
06-03-2006, 08:45 PM
Yeah, :( PHM played an awesome match against Rafa! I don't think Karlovic could have done that! :o!

Karlovic d. PHM :o [*fainting*] in 4 sets

Of course he wouldn't but would you have chosen Djokovic over Gonzalez? ;)

scythe19pro
06-03-2006, 09:05 PM
Rochus, Gonzo and Nieminen all have a good chance to repeat the semi's they reached at the AO and Rochus reaching the final again is a real possibility.
Gonzo (if he gets through) will be tough for Oli. I expect a 5 setter :p

stebs
06-03-2006, 09:57 PM
Gonzo (if he gets through) will be tough for Oli. I expect a 5 setter :p
At the moment Blake is favourite to beat Gonzo. 2 sets to 1 up and 3-3. Whoever goes through I doubt Oli will win 1, 2 and 0 but I'm not sure Gonzo would take him to a fifth.

+alonso
06-03-2006, 10:56 PM
Of course he wouldn't but would you have chosen Djokovic over Gonzalez? ;)

What's your point :( !!
Karlovic is having a great run on clay but nothing else! :o You're comparing completely different players :o :(
.. and Hey I don't mean to bash Ivo, I just thought people after watching Nadal d. PHM :hearts: They would have voted for PHM :sad: It was such a quality match!

scythe19pro
06-04-2006, 06:42 AM
Oli didn't break a sweat in his run to the QFs. He only lost 13 games in 4 matches :eek: His toughest match was in R3 against Martin where he lost 5 games, but he won his other matches very convincingly :worship: Let's see how he does against ToJo :p

Ancic is just about to defeat Chucho :eek: I didn't see this coming. And Berdych choked against Fed. He was leading 2-0, but Fed came back and now they're in the 5th.

Ivanatis
06-04-2006, 07:40 AM
What's your point :( !!
Karlovic is having a great run on clay but nothing else! :o You're comparing completely different players :o :(


My point is that PYW has not much to do with the question who is the better one, but who is liked by more people. You say that you wonder why people voted for Karlovic and not for PHM, because PHM played such a great match against Nadal. Of course he did. Maybe there would have been another result if the poll had taken place after the match. Anyway, you seem to be a quite big fan of Gonzalez, so you would of course never vote Djokovic who was better in their matchup, which shows that it's quite simple to say, he played so strong, that's why I want him to get to the next PYW-round :wavey: .

stebs
06-04-2006, 11:04 AM
Oli didn't break a sweat in his run to the QFs. He only lost 13 games in 4 matches :eek: His toughest match was in R3 against Martin where he lost 5 games, but he won his other matches very convincingly :worship: Let's see how he does against ToJo :p

Ancic is just about to defeat Chucho :eek: I didn't see this coming. And Berdych choked against Fed. He was leading 2-0, but Fed came back and now they're in the 5th.
Berdych lost the third and fourth sets 0 and 1 but came back to win the fifth 6-2 :sad:

Gonzo and Blake are in a fifth at 1-1. A real epic that one is :)

scythe19pro
06-04-2006, 11:42 AM
Nieminen will stay #1 regardless of what happens from now on and Oli is one win away from regaining the #2 spot.

stebs
06-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Nieminen will stay #1 regardless of what happens from now on and Oli is one win away from regaining the #2 spot.
Good I hope he does. Gonzo is 4-3 up against Blake in the fifth. This is going to the wire. :devil:

scythe19pro
06-04-2006, 06:48 PM
Gonzo won :banana: He shouldn't have problems with Karlovic in the next round :p A semifinal will put him in the 5th place in the rankings but he needs to win RG to climb higher. A win will put him in the 3rd place (if Oli doesn't win his next match) or in the 4th place (if Oli wins against ToJo). :)

Edit: Looks like I spoke too soon. Ivo is crushing Gonzo :sobbing:

stebs
06-04-2006, 07:46 PM
Gonzo won :banana: He shouldn't have problems with Karlovic in the next round :p A semifinal will put him in the 5th place in the rankings but he needs to win RG to climb higher. A win will put him in the 3rd place (if Oli doesn't win his next match) or in the 4th place (if Oli wins against ToJo). :)

Edit: Looks like I spoke too soon. Ivo is crushing Gonzo :sobbing:
Yes so far but I think Gonzo will certainly put up a sterner test than it looks like at first glance. Topsy turvy first two sets for Nieminen and Gaudio.

NyGeL
06-06-2006, 12:46 AM
Gaudio owned Jarkko... big upset.
Also ToJo over Rochus is another one!

scythe19pro
06-08-2006, 09:58 PM
Berdych is now a top 10 player (currently at #5 but he will go down to #6 if Gonzo wins his SF match) and cannot go higher than #5 even if he wins RG. ToJo will enter top 10 (at #9) only if he defeats Gonzo in SF. If not he'll stay at #15.

Mara_M
06-08-2006, 10:21 PM
be happy vsis,gonzo's winning :)! and yes,i voted for him :p!!!
well,i knwo i show off round here i'll run pyw,but i won't do anything if u don't give me tasks :angel:!

scythe19pro
06-08-2006, 10:42 PM
Why should I give you tasks? :confused: If you wanna run a tournament, just say which one and.. run it :p I won't be able to update scores from now on if we use the scoring method Alonso proposed because I just don't know how to align the damn columns :mad: :retard:

Mara_M
06-08-2006, 10:47 PM
well,i'll just chose what u don't want to :angel:!

scythe19pro
06-08-2006, 10:53 PM
You don't get it. I'm not running tournaments anymore because I don't know how to post scores. I'll just do the rankings :p

Mara_M
06-08-2006, 11:25 PM
i did get it! but yr not the only one round here..u know..you has various meanings ;)!

scythe19pro
06-08-2006, 11:28 PM
:ras: I thought you were referring to me

Mara_M
06-08-2006, 11:31 PM
:p

+alonso
06-09-2006, 04:21 AM
I'm gonna leave this as a model for the final :p

Live Scoring after --


Berdych [20] CZE vs González [9] CHI or Johansson [18] SWE 0-0

stebs
06-10-2006, 09:57 AM
Live Scoring after --


Berdych [20] CZE vs González [9] CHI or Johansson [18] SWE 0-0



Okay, just reposting it to see if it works for me. :)

NyGeL
06-12-2006, 12:56 PM
somebody should open First Round for Queens and Halle!

shotgun
06-25-2006, 09:47 PM
I don't understand how Olivier Rochus does so well in PYW. I mean the guy doesn't even have his own forum here on MTF. :confused:

NyGeL
06-27-2006, 01:01 AM
he may lose another final against Bracciali!

NyGeL
07-05-2007, 02:52 PM
I should have posted here, sry.

why are we voting again so quickly???

I agree that "vote again" is ok when we are delayed respect to the real tournament, but for example, at Wimbledon final (and most rounds) we voted again when we were like 3 days ahead of the real tournament. I think this is not necessary.

scythe19pro
07-05-2007, 02:58 PM
I should have posted here, sry.

why are we voting again so quickly???

I agree that "vote again" is ok when we are delayed respect to the real tournament, but for example, at Wimbledon final (and most rounds) we voted again when we were like 3 days ahead of the real tournament. I think this is not necessary.
Yes I agree, it's not like the ATP tournament has finished and we're rounds behind with PYW.
Also, I saw managers allowing a 3rd vote in the same round :help: :tape: What is this? :rolleyes:

Wojtek
07-07-2007, 08:03 AM
I should have posted here, sry.

why are we voting again so quickly???

I agree that "vote again" is ok when we are delayed respect to the real tournament, but for example, at Wimbledon final (and most rounds) we voted again when we were like 3 days ahead of the real tournament. I think this is not necessary.

New person WIMBLEDON ( i don't know why he started PYW threads :rolleyes: ) is posting so quickly each round in every event that we have such crazy situation like in London.

NyGeL
07-10-2007, 11:22 PM
Yup. There's no matter with his help, we should thank him all his dedication, but he shouldn't be so hurry.

Deathless Mortal is also helping a lot, but I think that "24hs Rule" they invented isn't good.

The vote rule should be aplicated when, for example, there are no votes (or a # of votes) in a period (8hs for example).

Deathless Mortal
07-11-2007, 01:43 PM
I didn't invent that rule, I saw others use it, and when i started opening PYW threads I thought that's normal. It's true Wimbledon finished on Wednesday or Thursday, so 3-4 fays before the real final was played. I made a mistake there.
Anyway, I think the second vote after 24hours is a good rule, but if 1st round finishes on Tuesday, maybe we should wait till Wednesday to open the second round thread. And then the QFs on Friday etc.
Is that ok?

Deathless Mortal
07-11-2007, 02:09 PM
So what about 2nd vote?

W!MBLEDON
07-11-2007, 11:12 PM
Yup. There's no matter with his help, we should thank him all his dedication, but he shouldn't be so hurry.

Deathless Mortal is also helping a lot, but I think that "24hs Rule" they invented isn't good.

The vote rule should be aplicated when, for example, there are no votes (or a # of votes) in a period (8hs for example).

that's probably the best rule to implement.

W!MBLEDON
07-11-2007, 11:31 PM
New person WIMBLEDON ( i don't know why he started PYW threads :rolleyes: ) is posting so quickly each round in every event that we have such crazy situation like in London.

elaborate on 'crazy situation', please. as of current there is no rule stating that i can't post a PYW thread for the, say, semifinals at any time after the quarterfinals finish.

i actually forgot about the fact that we can't vote more than twice in one thread (one initially, one after 24 hours). my bad. :retard: somebody told me that once.

also i guess if what Deathless Mortal meant was to do the PYW threads over the allocated week, that would be cool too. for example 32 size draws:

monday: 8 of the first round matches
tuesday: other 8 of the first round matches
wednesday: 4 of the second round matches
thursday: other 4 of the second round matches
friday: quarterfinals
saturday: semifinals
sunday: final

or for grand slams:

monday, tuesday: 32 of the first round matches on monday, other 32 on tuesday
wednesday, thursday: 16 of the second round matches on wednesday, other 16 on thursday
friday, saturday: 8 of the third round matches on friday, other 8 on saturday
sunday, monday: 4 of the fourth round matches on sunday, other 4 on monday
tuesday, wednesday: 2 of the quarterfinals on tuesday, other 2 on wednesday
thursday, friday: 1 of the semifinals on thursday, other 1 on friday
saturday: no PYW
sunday: final

i guess i do post the threads a little fast, but hey, it's always fun to keep it going. this would pretty much spread it over the whole tournament. if anyone's in agreement with this, i think it would be a good idea to implement it starting with the tournaments next week.

NyGeL
07-12-2007, 04:18 AM
Don't forget that IS tournaments aren't as active as GS. If you implement that schedule, all IS might be delayed a lot.

Like I said, I think that the vote again rule should be aplicated when, for example, there are no votes (or a # of votes) in a period (8hs for example).

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 09:18 AM
So, the thread starter can decide when people can vote again? And we don't accept anybody's second votes if we didn't say to vote again?

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 12:28 PM
So, the thread starter can decide when people can vote again? And we don't accept anybody's second votes if we didn't say to vote again?
I think that's what should be done :p And the manager shouldn't vote again right after he says 2nd vote is allowed, it's not fair imo.

qczi
07-12-2007, 01:05 PM
i think there isnt nothing with with 24h rule, its just being overused. we only used to apply it when we were behind the real tournament, but nowdays some starts the thread on sunday so obviously it wouldnt be needed. i personally hate seeing players' name in the pyw draw who withdrew earlier. i know this inevitable, but the game shouldnt be started before the play has begun.

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 02:18 PM
I think that's what should be done :p And the manager shouldn't vote again right after he says 2nd vote is allowed, it's not fair imo.

Well then we have to have a rule about that. Then at least one vote before manager's?

NyGeL
07-12-2007, 02:51 PM
I think that's what should be done :p And the manager shouldn't vote again right after he says 2nd vote is allowed, it's not fair imo.

yup, I agree. I remember that this season somebody said "vote again" when there was a MP and then, the same guy (manager) gave his vote to the winner.

I don't think that only the one who started the thread can apply the vote again rule. We all know who are those that use to manage PYW and I think all of them/us can do it.

We shouldn't abuse of the vote again. Like qczi said, we only have to use it when we are behind the real tournament.

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 05:10 PM
Well then we have to have a rule about that. Then at least one vote before manager's?
I'd say 5 or more :p
yup, I agree. I remember that this season somebody said "vote again" when there was a MP and then, the same guy (manager) gave his vote to the winner.
:help:

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:11 PM
I'd say 5 or more :p

:rolleyes:

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 05:13 PM
:rolleyes:
what? It would be perfect if the manager didn't vote at all :p

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:15 PM
what? It would be perfect if the manager didn't vote at all :p

And why is that? :rolleyes:

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:18 PM
Oh I know, I voted for Moya and not for ToJo so you're mad at me :p

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 05:20 PM
And why is that? :rolleyes:
First, second or third vote, they're not much different. It'd be better if the person who allows the second vote didn't have any influence in the final result of the matches. Just my opinion.

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 05:21 PM
Oh I know, I voted for Moya and not for ToJo so you're mad at me :p
:haha: no it's not the reason :p

maldini
07-12-2007, 05:22 PM
First, second or third vote, they're not much different. It'd be better if the person who allows the second vote didn't have any influence in the final result of the matches. Just my opinion.

yes i agree with you there, but i think this is not the most important subject...
it's more important to state that the "vote again" can only be applied by the manager;)

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:24 PM
First, second or third vote, they're not much different. It'd be better if the person who allows the second vote didn't have any influence in the final result of the matches. Just my opinion.

I don't believe anybody will agree with you because every PYW thread starter also votes there, it isn't just me. I'd rather vote than start a thread then. :p

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:25 PM
:haha:

thanks maldini :rolleyes:

:p

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:25 PM
I have not seen you 2 start a PYW thread lately. How interesting is that. :p

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 05:27 PM
I don't believe anybody will agree with you because every PYW thread starter also votes there, it isn't just me. I'd rather vote than start a thread then. :p
They won't agree because they want to have fun, not because they want a 100% fair game :p
I have not seen you 2 start a PYW thread lately. How interesting is that. :p
as far as I know, only PYW managers are allowed to start PYW threads.

Deathless Mortal
07-12-2007, 05:30 PM
They won't agree because they want to have fun, not because they want a 100% fair game :p

as far as I know, only PYW managers are allowed to start PYW threads.

Ok but you want to make a rule where manager shouldn't be able to vote and you are not a manager. :p

maldini
07-12-2007, 05:31 PM
I have not seen you 2 start a PYW thread lately. How interesting is that. :p

i'm sorry i didn't know that only PYW managers are allowed to discuss here :p

stebs
07-12-2007, 05:40 PM
There is no need for set in stone rules, we aren't a bunch of kids who need specific boundaries.

It is simple, allow the PYW tournament to keep pace with the real tournament, if it is too slow then become more active and encourage second votes so long as 24 hrs have passed. If it is too fast then do not allow second votes.

Only start a thread for a round when it is that round in the real tournament. You are doing great with the PYW stuff W!mbledon so keep it up but you were wrong to start the threads before the tournament was scheduled to reach that stage and that is not something I have just made up, it has always been the agreement between the previous PYW managers.

So much interest is a good thing, when I was running tournaments last year it was near impossible to finish events on time.

keqtqiadv
07-12-2007, 05:50 PM
Ok but you want to make a rule where manager shouldn't be able to vote and you are not a manager. :p
it's just an idea of a perfect game, not I rule I want to make :p

I just don't like cases like the one NyGel mentioned to happen. So I think managers should wait more than only one vote before voting again.

W!MBLEDON
07-12-2007, 10:26 PM
Personally I think the 24 hour rule is fine the way it is.

W!MBLEDON
07-12-2007, 10:33 PM
wait, hang on.. why does the manager even decide when it's time to vote again? i thought the actual voters had to wait 24 hours between posting on their parts. if a manager decides when they can vote again, doesn't that mean they could vote like 2 minutes before the manager decides for the users to vote again, then vote immediately after that? there is no point in a manager saying vote again if it isn't helping anybody. is that rule even implemented in the original explanation in the main posts? i always thought the users checked when they voted last in that thread and if it'd been 24 hours or longer, they'd vote again.

stebs
07-13-2007, 10:25 PM
wait, hang on.. why does the manager even decide when it's time to vote again? i thought the actual voters had to wait 24 hours between posting on their parts. if a manager decides when they can vote again, doesn't that mean they could vote like 2 minutes before the manager decides for the users to vote again, then vote immediately after that? there is no point in a manager saying vote again if it isn't helping anybody. is that rule even implemented in the original explanation in the main posts? i always thought the users checked when they voted last in that thread and if it'd been 24 hours or longer, they'd vote again.

Read my post a couple above yours and that explains that the 24 hour rule isn't needed if everyone has common sense. If vote again is NEEDED then it is used, the aim ofg PYW IS NOT to finish as soon as possible, the aim is to have a bit of fun and give everyone maximum chance to vote as long as it is possible. Unless behind with the tournament then don't use vote again at all unless voting is completely dead.

W!MBLEDON
07-14-2007, 03:24 AM
You are doing great with the PYW stuff W!mbledon so keep it up but you were wrong to start the threads before the tournament was scheduled to reach that stage and that is not something I have just made up, it has always been the agreement between the previous PYW managers.

ahhh. thanks. i wasn't exactly familiar with this rule. will not create threads so fast now. :p

Caio_Brasil
07-14-2007, 04:48 PM
I'd like to suggest that managers updated the scores in the first post :)

W!MBLEDON
07-15-2007, 10:47 AM
but not all managers will have time for constant updates like that.

chewy
07-25-2007, 01:43 AM
Hi all, (If i'm not suppose to post here, PM me and i'll delete my post)

I was just wondering are there any PYW managers free to start the thread for Indianapolis? The other two tournaments in the same week have started and Indianapolis might be left behind...just a reminder. thz guys.

W!MBLEDON
08-02-2007, 10:45 PM
that was because you have to wait until all qualifiers are decided in the main draw before you can start a pyw thread. indianapolis monday featured qualifying matches, so naturally we couldn't wait until play was finished for monday and the four qualifiers in the draw were placed.

Wojtek
09-11-2007, 02:08 PM
W!MBLEDON should be banned as PYW thread starter. We have another week when he started thread and then nothing and we have unfnished event. This week the same story :rolleyes:

FilipeMB
01-07-2008, 07:54 PM
I'd like to see challengers in PYW :(

Caio_Brasil
01-07-2008, 07:56 PM
vamos challengers :)

FilipeMB
01-07-2008, 08:01 PM
I will not be able to manage any (besides on challengers on january and selected weeks) but I think it'd be a nice iniciative. Not all challengers but some.

FilipeMB
01-09-2008, 02:18 PM
May I run one Challenger (Bergamo)?

W!MBLEDON
01-12-2008, 09:49 AM
So after all the hoo-hah, what's the OFFICIAL rule for voting again? Is voting again only allowed after the manager says so, or after twenty-four hours? And are managers allowed to vote again immediately after 'vote again' is shown in the thread title or in a post in the thread? Is voting again allowed only if first voting has become infrequent? If so, about how many votes per certain amount of time must be happening for voting again to be implemented? I'm very confused. Right now, all I'm seeing is that voting again is allowed after twenty-four hours of first voting, and that it isn't up to the manager to decide; it's up to anyone to point out that twenty-four hours have passed since the thread has started. Am I wrong? A reply would be much appreciated. :tape:

FilipeMB
01-12-2008, 02:06 PM
I believe we should be allowed to vote again after 6 or 12 votes.

NyGeL
01-19-2008, 05:31 PM
I thought that everyone agreed about the following "Vote Again" rule:

- "Vote Again" can only be implemented if in a period of X hs (I think 5hs would be ok) there are no votes.
- "Vote Again" could also be implemented if the original tournament is one round ahead of PYW tournament (ex: Now, at AO we are running Round 3 and R4 will start tonight. So, since first match starts, managers are able to implement "Vote Again" on PYW R3).
- The manager that allows "Vote Again" can't vote right after it (should be able after 3 votes for ex.)

Wojtek
01-26-2008, 05:57 AM
I believe we should be allowed to vote again after 6 or 12 votes.

sorry stupid idea

Wojtek
01-26-2008, 05:59 AM
I thought that everyone agreed about the following "Vote Again" rule:

- "Vote Again" can only be implemented if in a period of X hs (I think 5hs would be ok) there are no votes.
- "Vote Again" could also be implemented if the original tournament is one round ahead of PYW tournament (ex: Now, at AO we are running Round 3 and R4 will start tonight. So, since first match starts, managers are able to implement "Vote Again" on PYW R3).
- The manager that allows "Vote Again" can't vote right after it (should be able after 3 votes for ex.)

I agree with 2 and 3 point.

FilipeMB
01-26-2008, 11:46 AM
sorry stupid idea

don't think so :)

NyGeL
01-26-2008, 05:43 PM
I agree with 2 and 3 point.

anyone else agree with it?

NyGeL
01-26-2008, 05:44 PM
May I run one Challenger (Bergamo)?

It would be nice to see if there is activity on Challengers.

FilipeMB
01-28-2008, 06:53 PM
anyone else agree with it?
me.

FilipeMB
01-30-2008, 06:06 PM
Please PYW managers, put rankings link in first page, as it was in AO.

Alonsofz
02-05-2008, 03:06 AM
Can I be a PYW manager? :awww:

FilipeMB
02-05-2008, 11:45 PM
Can I be a PYW manager? :awww:

I believe you can, there have never been a strong organization for PYW

stebs
02-06-2008, 04:47 PM
These are the players with the most titles in PYW history:

Titles (Finals)

Mathieu 13 (18)
Gasquet 9 (16)
Gonzalez 9 (12)
Rochus 8 (17)
Pavel 6 (11)
Safin 6 (10)
Verdasco 6 (9)
Federer 6 (8)
Santoro 5 (15)
Moya 5 (10)
Tursunov 5 (7)
Dancevic 4 (9)
Youzhny 4 (7)
Nieminen 4 (6)
Johansson, J 4 (6)

Pim Pim probably only was in a few events and still reached 6 finals and had 4 victories. Sad to see him retire.