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monte carlo final who will win? federer or nadal

dylan24
04-22-2006, 03:51 PM
who wins
and in how many sets?

PaulieM
04-22-2006, 03:52 PM
um federer hasn't won his semi yet.

Black Adam
04-22-2006, 03:53 PM
Nadal in 3 or 4 or 5 sets

Flibbertigibbet
04-22-2006, 03:53 PM
:o Sometimes this arrogance/foolishness/whatever you want to call it astounds me...

Saumon
04-22-2006, 03:54 PM
:rolleyes:

rofe
04-22-2006, 03:55 PM
i am sure dylan has bet big money on Fed to win the semi-final.

hitchhiker
04-22-2006, 03:55 PM
betting odds say federer loses 1% of the time from here. its alright to make a thread.

redsox1133
04-22-2006, 03:57 PM
i hope nadal does.....HE NEEDS TO KEEP HIS CLAY COURT STREAK ALIVE SO HE CAN GET THE RECORD....and he needs to put federer in his place (on hard courts and grass courts)

NATAS81
04-22-2006, 04:02 PM
Federer has defeated Gonzalez and earned the right to lose the final in four sets.

dylan24
04-22-2006, 04:02 PM
federer in 4

PaulieM
04-22-2006, 04:03 PM
i hope federer does and i don't care how long it takes.

Rogiman
04-22-2006, 04:04 PM
Nadal is the favourite, no doubt ;)

dylan24
04-22-2006, 04:05 PM
fwiw
federer favored to beat nadal at befair right now

Black Adam
04-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Before Hewitt led something like 8-1 against Fed and that shows us the time Fed takes to adjust to the game of a grinder like Hewitt or Nadal. Nadal is gonna win this one.

LLeytonRules
04-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Nadal is the favorite but Roger has looked so hungry in this tournament, slay the dragon Roger.

R.Federer
04-22-2006, 04:05 PM
So hard to call against the kid
But heres hoping Roge wins it .... in 3, 4 or 5
GO ROGE
HOPP!!!!

lucashg
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
i hope federer does and i don't care how long it takes.

Ditto. :yeah:

sadhbh
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
I think Nadal will win cause he plays better on clay, it would be different if the match was on grass.

daze11
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
i hope nadal does.....HE NEEDS TO KEEP HIS CLAY COURT STREAK ALIVE SO HE CAN GET THE RECORD....and he needs to put federer in his place (on hard courts and grass courts)
oh thats right! :eek: then ESPECIALLY federer in 3. nadal is undeserving.

Black Adam
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
The bookmakers aren't the one who play the game ;) :p

stebs
04-22-2006, 04:06 PM
Nadal should win this match but I'm going to go with Federer. It will take a performance of remarkable skill and consistency to defeat Nadal on clay over five sets.

Johnny Groove
04-22-2006, 04:08 PM
Let me be as clear as I can possibly be:

THERE IS NO WAY, NO WAY THAT NADAL WILL LOSE TO FEDERER TOMORROW. Rafa is in his head, of the 4 matches that Federer lost last year, only the Nadal match was the one where he had no chance of winning. All the others, he had match points and shot a tweener,(Safin) or just choked away the lead when serving for the match (Nalbandian). Nadal truly owned him at RG last year. Fed beat him ONCE on hard courts, and Rafa was 2 points from the match, and Rafa has won the last 2 encounters. Rafa has that 41 match winning streak on clay going too. He is the King Of Clay, and Fed is the merely the Prince.

Andre♥
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
Federer will everything and I mean EVERYTHING to win tomorrow.

And if Federer wins tomorrow, he's going for the Grand Slam this year.

oneandonlyhsn
04-22-2006, 04:09 PM
My heart says Roger my head says Rafa, he is the claycourt king for a reason

LLeytonRules
04-22-2006, 04:10 PM
All u can hope is that Roger doesnt make unforced errors.U have to admit, he has looked alot better then Nadal so far in this tournament.Also i think he wants that shot.Nadal hasnt looked unbeatable.

oneandonlyhsn
04-22-2006, 04:10 PM
i hope nadal does.....HE NEEDS TO KEEP HIS CLAY COURT STREAK ALIVE SO HE CAN GET THE RECORD....and he needs to put federer in his place (on hard courts and grass courts)

What place is that smart ass :rolleyes:

LLeytonRules
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Federer will bring all he got.He is willing to go all 5 sets.I think he knows Rafa has that streak and wants to end it.I think Rafa better watch out.

Rogiman
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Let me be as clear as I can possibly be:

THERE IS NO WAY, NO WAY THAT NADAL WILL LOSE TO FEDERER TOMORROW. Rafa is in his head, of the 4 matches that Federer lost last year, only the Nadal match was the one where he had no chance of winning. All the others, he had match points and shot a tweener,(Safin) or just choked away the lead when serving for the match (Nalbandian). Nadal truly owned him at RG last year. Fed beat him ONCE on hard courts, and Rafa was 2 points from the match, and Rafa has won the last 2 encounters. Rafa has that 41 match winning streak on clay going too. He is the King Of Clay, and Fed is the merely the Prince.Okay, now go to bed :baby:

Junes
04-22-2006, 04:12 PM
Fed in 4

PaulieM
04-22-2006, 04:13 PM
i hope nadal does.....HE NEEDS TO KEEP HIS CLAY COURT STREAK ALIVE SO HE CAN GET THE RECORD....and he needs to put federer in his place (on hard courts and grass courts)
:lol: what place is that exactly? hopefully Wimbledon champ '06, although i don't think federer needs rafa's help for that.;)

1sun
04-22-2006, 04:17 PM
nadal in 3, the match up is just too bad for roger.

Flibbertigibbet
04-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Does anybody know how long it's been since the top two seeds have met in the finals of a big (3 Masters/RG) clay court tournament?

Billabong
04-22-2006, 04:18 PM
Nadal also has won his last 11 finals, I hope Rogi can stop that tomorrow:yeah: GO FED:bounce:!!!

hitchhiker
04-22-2006, 04:20 PM
nadal, possibly rather easily as well. he will be extra focused against roger.

LLeytonRules
04-22-2006, 04:21 PM
I think if Roger has patience, he has a shot.Nadal wants a target, Roger just needs to bring it from the beginning.I hope he pulls it out, cause then we can rag on the Nadal fans. :mad:

mandoura
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
My heart says Roger my head says Rafa, he is the claycourt king for a reason

Same here.

I like them both, but Rogelio more. So in my heart, as Mooya said, I hope he wins tomorrow and I don't care how many sets it will take him to do so. :)

Yet, my head keeps telling me Rafa will win. :)

Anyway, may the best man wins. :D

Regenbogen
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
federer in 4. i don't see why so many people are saying nadal, i think federer has looked better than him this tournament, personally. but i'm really hoping i'm wrong.

LLeytonRules
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
I think Nadal is in for a surprise tomorrow. ;) Payback's a bitch!

mandoura
04-22-2006, 04:22 PM
I think if Roger has patience, he has a shot.Nadal wants a target, Roger just needs to bring it from the beginning.I hope he pulls it out, cause then we can rag on the Nadal fans. :mad:

:lol:

tenniswiz
04-22-2006, 04:23 PM
Fed in easy 3. :devil:

stebs
04-22-2006, 04:25 PM
31 votes for each man. MTF is split for this one folks. :):p

Phunkadelicious
04-22-2006, 04:29 PM
Nadal in 5

Tatanka
04-22-2006, 04:29 PM
roger in 4

gsm
04-22-2006, 04:32 PM
would looove to see fed take this, will make the clay season sooo much more interesting IMO.

my fingers are crossed for fed, GL to him in what will prob be an up hill battle.

hitchhiker
04-22-2006, 04:32 PM
rafager in 5
fedal in 4

Fergie
04-22-2006, 04:33 PM
Rogi in 4 :)

Tennis Fool
04-22-2006, 04:34 PM
Feds seems hugely confident right now and by the scores, Nadal seems pretty iffy. I think Feds will mow him down.

rofe
04-22-2006, 04:37 PM
I think Nadal will win in 4. I will offcourse be happy to be proven wrong.

asotgod
04-22-2006, 04:40 PM
Even most of Roger fans seem to be doubting him. Roger will win easily tomorrow. Pretty easily tomorrow and make Nadal look out of sorts even on clay. You watch.

ezekiel
04-22-2006, 04:41 PM
the fed stops here. Aside from some fluke occurence, everything points out to Nadal victory

mangoes
04-22-2006, 04:46 PM
Well, since every other time I was confident Roger would win, this time, I'll go ahead and concede this final to Nadal in 4 sets......and prepare myself for all the nadal fans to dominate GM for the next three days..............HOWEVER, should Roger surprise Nadal, I'll be very happy to be wrong and more than happy to laugh my butt off on GM for the next three days........... Nevertheless, this is Nadal's home, clay, so I'm figuring he'll win...........afterall, Nadal is dubbed the King of Clay.......

Raul-Lopez
04-22-2006, 04:46 PM
Nadal of course and maybe easy .

16681
04-22-2006, 04:47 PM
Before Hewitt led something like 8-1 against Fed and that shows us the time Fed takes to adjust to the game of a grinder like Hewitt or Nadal. Nadal is gonna win this one.
I think Nadal is much more of a grinder than Hewitt. And I do hope Nadal wins ;) I want the streak to continue :cool:

ChloeLove
04-22-2006, 04:48 PM
I don't know who will win . . . Federer's performance so far, has been a lot more convincing than Nadals. So I wouldn't be surprised if Federer won. Then again, Nadal is an amazing clay courter, and I would like to see him extend his record on clay past 41.

Unlike a lot of people, my head says Federer, but my heart says Nadal. If you look at the statistics, Federer actually should win. :rolleyes: But i'm rooting for Nadal on this one.

rue
04-22-2006, 04:49 PM
I really think that Nadal will take this one. He has just been superb on clay and he is a better player on clay than Federer is. I have to go with Nadal winning in 5 sets.

Johnny Groove
04-22-2006, 04:50 PM
Does anybody know how long it's been since the top two seeds have met in the finals of a big (3 Masters/RG) clay court tournament?

Monte-Carlo: Lendl vs. Wilander, '85, Lendl won 6-1, 6-3, 4-6, 6-4, and the draw was only 48, and it wasnt a TMS until 1990

Rome: Vilas vs. Gerulaitis, '79 :eek: Vilas won, 6-7, 7-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-2, again, not a TMS until 1990

Hamburg: Federer vs. Coria, '04 lol, Fed won 4-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3

but before that,

Lendl vs. Mecir, '87, Lendl won 6-1, 6-3, 6-3, with a 56 draw, and again, not a TMS until 1990

Roland Garros: Mcenroe vs. Lendl, '84 :worship: Lendl won 3-6, 2-6, 6-4, 7-5, 7-5, the only GS that Mcenroe didnt win that year when he went 82-3.

bokehlicious
04-22-2006, 04:51 PM
Fed in 4 with a breadstick

connectolove
04-22-2006, 04:53 PM
How many polls asking the same Q are around?

I hope that Nadal wins.

rrfnpump
04-22-2006, 04:54 PM
Roger in 5

its time for him

mallorn
04-22-2006, 05:01 PM
I don't know who will win . . . Federer's performance so far, has been a lot more convincing than Nadals. So I wouldn't be surprised if Federer won. Then again, Nadal is an amazing clay courter, and I would like to see him extend his record on clay past 41.

Unlike a lot of people, my head says Federer, but my heart says Nadal. If you look at the statistics, Federer actually should win. :rolleyes: But i'm rooting for Nadal on this one.
Ditto. :)

Flibbertigibbet
04-22-2006, 05:05 PM
Monte-Carlo: Lendl vs. Wilander, '85, Lendl won 6-1, 6-3, 4-6, 6-4, and the draw was only 48, and it wasnt a TMS until 1990

Rome: Vilas vs. Gerulaitis, '79 :eek: Vilas won, 6-7, 7-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-2, again, not a TMS until 1990

Hamburg: Federer vs. Coria, '04 lol, Fed won 4-6, 6-4, 6-2, 6-3

but before that,

Lendl vs. Mecir, '87, Lendl won 6-1, 6-3, 6-3, with a 56 draw, and again, not a TMS until 1990

Roland Garros: Mcenroe vs. Lendl, '84 :worship: Lendl won 3-6, 2-6, 6-4, 7-5, 7-5, the only GS that Mcenroe didnt win that year when he went 82-3.

Thanks for that! I wasn't sure if Hamburg 2004 was the last time (didn't know if Roddick had played or not), so it hasn't been that far back as I would have thought. But then again, it still is a relative rarity to see it occurring.

federated
04-22-2006, 05:25 PM
my GOD I can't wait for this match. I wish I had a fast forward button. BLAH, back to work. :sad:

vvv
04-22-2006, 05:28 PM
It's time FedEx rolled on into the Clay court season royally, as well..... The key to tomorrow's win would be the minimal unforced errors by Fed.... He should win in four sets, going by his current track record. He is in a peak form......

daze11
04-22-2006, 05:31 PM
my GOD I can't wait for this match. I wish I had a fast forward button. BLAH, back to work. :sad:
exactly my thought! :lol: enough talk, get out the racquets!! :worship:

DrJules
04-22-2006, 05:37 PM
The wall :lol: Nadal

denisgiann
04-22-2006, 05:43 PM
Tough match but i want Fed to take it cause i prefer grace over power anytime and at any sport.

propi
04-22-2006, 05:58 PM
I don't know who will win . . . Federer's performance so far, has been a lot more convincing than Nadals. So I wouldn't be surprised if Federer won. Then again, Nadal is an amazing clay courter, and I would like to see him extend his record on clay past 41.

Unlike a lot of people, my head says Federer, but my heart says Nadal. If you look at the statistics, Federer actually should win. :rolleyes: But i'm rooting for Nadal on this one.
Same here :scared:
But as long as Rafa wins in Paris (unless facing Tommy Robredo, of course), it all will be OK :)

Rogiman
04-22-2006, 06:11 PM
Break down the wall! :fiery:

ReturnWinner
04-22-2006, 06:19 PM
federer if plays his best

Beforehand
04-22-2006, 06:20 PM
Federer has looked pretty good this week. It seems he's finally finding his clay court game the way he should play it if he's seeking big titles. That said, that doesn't necessarily mean that he's going to blitz Nadal.

I'm not sure about this one at all. I'm completely split down the middle.

jenanun
04-22-2006, 06:24 PM
nadal in 4

cornellboy
04-22-2006, 06:30 PM
I just don't see how Federer, or ANYONE for that matter, can string together 3 sets of tennis good enough to beat Nadal on clay. You just KNOW that Nadal is eventually going to wear Federer down with his "body blows"

Dirk
04-22-2006, 06:37 PM
Roger will not get worn down, because his game is smooth and efficient. Nadal will be the one who will likely cramp out if the match goes the distance.

Deea
04-22-2006, 06:38 PM
In my view, Nadal is gonna win! :D

cornellboy
04-22-2006, 06:39 PM
Roger will not get worn down, because his game is smooth and efficient. Nadal will be the one who will likely cramp out if the match goes the distance.

I meant worn down mentally. It's exactly what happened last year at RG and this year at Dubai.

Dirk
04-22-2006, 06:41 PM
I meant worn down mentally. It's exactly what happened last year at RG and this year at Dubai.

Yeah that could sadly happen. :sad: Roger just needs to think of nothing else but his game tomorrow on the court.

rofe
04-22-2006, 06:41 PM
I meant worn down mentally. It's exactly what happened last year at RG and this year at Dubai.

I agree that it is quite possible. He has not had patience for Nadal's game and patience is the key for him tomorrow.

kindablue
04-22-2006, 06:44 PM
Rogelio in 3!!!!

Clara Bow
04-22-2006, 06:47 PM
Unlike a lot of people, my head says Federer, but my heart says Nadal. If you look at the statistics, Federer actually should win. But i'm rooting for Nadal on this one.

My thoughts as well.

Allez
04-22-2006, 06:59 PM
I just don't see how Federer, or ANYONE for that matter, can string together 3 sets of tennis good enough to beat Nadal on clay. You just KNOW that Nadal is eventually going to wear Federer down with his "body blows"

Yep. I have to agree with this. I desperately hope Rogi can halt his losing streak to Rafa, but the finals of a Clay Masters event isn't the ideal place to stop the rot. My heart is always with Rogi :yeah: but my head is screaming Nadal in 4. :eek: :eek: :eek:

R.Federer
04-22-2006, 07:17 PM
Roge has got the match he wants to play
I hope Roge wins tomorrow, but must concede that the odds are in the kid's favor
If Roge wins, it is great and will put him in confidence for the clay season
If Roge loses.... well, he will have one more lesson from which to learn how to play the kid

asotgod
04-22-2006, 08:17 PM
Yeah that could sadly happen. :sad: Roger just needs to think of nothing else but his game tomorrow on the court.


Roger already discovered this. He said in a recent article after the match today that the key is to stay with Nadal all the time, especially physically. So, I think he will be perfectly fine tomorrow. No wandering here and there.

cobalt60
04-22-2006, 08:20 PM
The First 49% of MTF: ":singer: Omg mah player is going 2 own ur player! :singer:"
The Second 49% of MTF: ":rolleyes: Omg u r teh stupid! We all know ur player is going 2 b the owned 1. :devil:"
The Other 2% of MTF: ":eek: Can I please say something reasonab-"
The First 49% of MTF: ":rocker2: We'll see 2moro whose the dumass then! :rocker2:"
The Second 49% of MTF: ":lol: u r so lame! get a life lol :retard: :lol:"

The Other 2% of MTF: ":banghead: :smash: :banghead: :smash:"
:lol: you are way to scientific. I don't think I care to watch tomorrow's final. But I can't wait to read MTF afterwards;)

redsox1133
04-22-2006, 08:23 PM
as i said in an earlier post....i REALLY hope that Rafael wins tomorrow. and if rafael does happen to win ***knock on wood** all i can say is i hope federer doesnt make us excuses like he did in the past..aka Roland Garros...remember fed, nadal has to deal with the same comditions you do...be a gracious loser for once!!!


i realize alot of people are going to be upset with me for this post, but this is how i see and and how i see roger.

cobalt60
04-22-2006, 08:28 PM
Wish RonE had access to a computer. I want to read his posts on this match up again;)

stebs
04-22-2006, 08:30 PM
remember fed, nadal has to deal with the same comditions you do...be a gracious loser for once!!!


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: If you think Roger Federer is not gracious then you have no clue about tennis.

el güero
04-22-2006, 09:26 PM
I meant worn down mentally. It's exactly what happened last year at RG and this year at Dubai.
Yes, this is the most likely outcome tomorrow. It doesn't help that Roger is prepared for Nadal's game and knows what to wait for. After two gruelling sets he's still going to find out how hard it is to go on hitting those winners against a guy who never stops and never loses his intensity.

But then again, Nadal is not a machine and even he can get down on himself and lose the spirit, which happened against Blake in Indian Wells. So if Fed starts exceptionally well, doesn't lose too much energy in the first 2 sets and stays positive, he might actually wear Rafa down.

DrJules
04-22-2006, 09:26 PM
Well, since every other time I was confident Roger would win, this time, I'll go ahead and concede this final to Nadal in 4 sets......and prepare myself for all the nadal fans to dominate GM for the next three days..............

Only three days - you think that you will escape that lightly :lol: :lol: :lol:

Actually it is NOT the Nadal funs, but those obsessed with seeing Roger lose that will dominate MTF. If you had a "who do you want to lose" poll on MTF I think Roger would probably win it.

Phunkadelicious
04-22-2006, 09:28 PM
Yes, this is the most likely outcome tomorrow. It doesn't help that Roger is prepared for Nadal's game and knows what to wait for. After two gruelling sets he's still going to find out how hard it is to go on hitting those winners against a guy who never stops and never loses his intensity.

But then again, Nadal is not a machine and even he can get down on himself and lose the spirit, which happened against Blake in Indian Wells. So if Fed starts exceptionally well, doesn't lose too much energy in the first 2 sets and stays positive, he might actually wear Rafa down.
dude, you've contradicted yourself here.

DrJules
04-22-2006, 09:33 PM
Roger should ask James Blake to play for him tomorrow. :lol:

almouchie
04-22-2006, 09:33 PM
from the looks of it
this match could go the distance

jen_nz
04-22-2006, 09:35 PM
rafa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: :worship: (It is not going to be an easy match. When the usual brain bug starts to be active in Fed's head, it will help.) Vamos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

deliveryman
04-22-2006, 09:58 PM
Voted Nadal in 4. Let's face it, that top spin lefty forehand to Roger's back will always cause him problems. There's no way his BH will stay consistently good enough over 3 sets to beat Nadal.

I really really hope I'm wrong.

bad gambler
04-22-2006, 10:03 PM
Nadal in 3 sets, 4 sets if he feels charitable

kapranos
04-22-2006, 10:25 PM
Nadal has zero chance. Roger Federer, 2006 MC winner.

bad gambler
04-22-2006, 10:56 PM
Nadal has zero chance. Roger Federer, 2006 MC winner.


A mortal lock?

KoOlMaNsEaN
04-22-2006, 11:03 PM
My loyalty goes to Roger as always :D

but he sucks against rafa :sad:

Corey Feldman
04-22-2006, 11:17 PM
Nadal in 4, he's the best on clay and mentally edges Fed..
i really hope im wrong tho !!

stebs
04-22-2006, 11:19 PM
Alright, seeing as I won't be on here tomorrow morning and I'm off to bed now I guess now is the time for me to predict the exact score and see just how incredibly wrong I can be.

I'll go for Federer to beat Nadal 6-4 2-6 7-5 4-6 6-1

hitchhiker
04-22-2006, 11:26 PM
i think this is the last time a nadal v federer match on clay will have this much uncertainty about it prematch. nadal WILL win in 4 sets and show he is in a different league from federer on clay.

bring on the hardcourts because federer v nadal matches are predictable here.

hitchhiker
04-22-2006, 11:27 PM
seriously federer v nadal on clay is similar to federer v nadal on grass

Corey Feldman
04-22-2006, 11:33 PM
Roland Garros: Mcenroe vs. Lendl, '84 :worship: Lendl won 3-6, 2-6, 6-4, 7-5, 7-5, the only GS that Mcenroe didnt win that year when he went 82-3.Well that aint true seen as Mcenroe never won the Aussie Open that year, or even .. ever.

gillian
04-22-2006, 11:38 PM
Rafa is just too good on clay.

RonE
04-22-2006, 11:40 PM
Wish RonE had access to a computer. I want to read his posts on this match up again;)

Since you asked so nicely:

Nadal is the favourite to win this match. I voted for Nadal to win in 4.

However, the one big difference in this match as opposed to their previous encounters is that for the first time Federer goes in as the underdog. That may be the determining factor, however it all depends on Roger approach to the match.

From what I have seen of their previous matchups, Nadal does trouble Federer with the topspin to the B/H however the issue here is not so much technical as it is mental. It is the constant barrage and the fact that Roger constantly has to win the point 3 or 4 times in a rally playing a high risk game.

In Dubai Roger did show glimpses of a slightly different approach- work Nadal around the court, throw in a few slices, loopy shots etc and suddenly nail a big F/H. He was quite successful when he mixed the play as opposed to just trying to bludgeon Nadal. The question that remains to be seen is wether Roger can keep on doing it over a 5 set match especially on clay where Rafa has a lot more time to return the big shots.

The odds are stacked quite heavily in Nadal's favour, however I feel the more Roger plays him the better off he will fare against him in future matches and on clay too.

In the odd chance that Roger does win the match it will give him a huge confidence boost and could potentially fuel him to even greater heights over the next few months.

That is my take on the match.

We now return you to the trash talking slugfest.

hitchhiker
04-23-2006, 12:25 AM
i bet most of the neutrals voted for nadal

Viken01
04-23-2006, 12:45 AM
VAMOS nadal !!

Bagelicious
04-23-2006, 12:52 AM
My heart says Roger my head says Rafa, he is the claycourt king for a reason

With you on that. I think it'll be Rafa in 4.

Saturn66
04-23-2006, 01:11 AM
Roger in 4.

NyGeL
04-23-2006, 01:46 AM
Nadal in 4

atheneglaukopis
04-23-2006, 03:08 AM
"Nadal in four," speaketh the voice of reason, yet the heart crieth, "Ninja!"

Ultimately--meaning in time for the French--Federer needs to learn to beat Nadal, and I think playing him as often as possible will do him more good in the long term than an increasingly lopsided head-to-head will do him mental harm. Therefore I am not disappointed that someone else didn't take out Nadal earlier, even if it means Federer doesn't win this one. Plus rivalry=good. I'm prepared for defeat, as prepared as I'm capable of being, and will be proud of Rafa if his clay streak continues. Then, of course, I will be delighted if I wake up to a champion with the first three TMSs and the first GS of the year. :eek:

MisterQ
04-23-2006, 03:41 AM
Rafael "Single Point" Nadal def. Roger "Tesseract" Federer, 6-4, 7-6, 2-6, 3-6, 6-4 ;)

atheneglaukopis
04-23-2006, 03:47 AM
Roger "Tesseract" Federer def. Rafael "Single Point" Nadal, 6-4, 7-6, 2-6, 3-6, 6-4 ;)
Clever! :worship: Maybe we can get a Fibonacci sequence going: (taking absolute values) 7-6 7-6 4-6 3-6 6-1...

MisterQ
04-23-2006, 03:49 AM
Clever! :worship: Maybe we can get a Fibonacci sequence going: (taking absolute values) 7-6 7-6 4-6 3-6 6-1...

:lol: excellent! :cool:

Except, as you can see, I can't make up my mind who will actually win this one!

atheneglaukopis
04-23-2006, 03:58 AM
:lol: excellent! :cool:

Except, as you can see, I can't make up my mind who will actually win this one!
You may notice I haven't voted either.

hitchhiker
04-23-2006, 04:44 AM
nadal tight first set then bring out the steamroll

nadal WILL WIN either 7-5 6-3 6-2 or 3-6 6-2 7-5 6-3

El Legenda
04-23-2006, 05:02 AM
Roger: 6-4 5-7 7-6 6-4

Jaffas85
04-23-2006, 05:07 AM
Federer is extremely hungry for Clay success this year which he hopes will culminate with taking the French Open title.

I think Federer will win in 4 sets.

landoud
04-23-2006, 05:51 AM
Nadal is the favourite to win but hopefully Roger will

jacobhiggins
04-23-2006, 06:21 AM
Let me be as clear as I can possibly be:

THERE IS NO WAY, NO WAY THAT NADAL WILL LOSE TO FEDERER TOMORROW. Rafa is in his head, of the 4 matches that Federer lost last year, only the Nadal match was the one where he had no chance of winning. All the others, he had match points and shot a tweener,(Safin) or just choked away the lead when serving for the match (Nalbandian). Nadal truly owned him at RG last year. Fed beat him ONCE on hard courts, and Rafa was 2 points from the match, and Rafa has won the last 2 encounters. Rafa has that 41 match winning streak on clay going too. He is the King Of Clay, and Fed is the merely the Prince.

This is just fanboy talk right here. Roger has a good chance to beat Nadal!

hitchhiker
04-23-2006, 06:27 AM
This is just fanboy talk right here. Roger has a good chance to beat Nadal!


not on clay

yanchr
04-23-2006, 06:31 AM
I'm lost at predicting this match...

Roger seems in good form at the moment, but when it comes to Nadal, things are different cuz the match-up doesn't favor Roger at all, and the match-up thing will always be there no matter what forms they are in.

I hope Roger can stay with Nadal physically, as well as mentally. That will be the key.

I just want Roger to win, no matter in which way for low long, even if it's 5 hours of ugly tennis.

PamV
04-23-2006, 06:34 AM
i hope federer does and i don't care how long it takes.

Well said PaulieM !

oz_boz
04-23-2006, 08:32 AM
I think Nadal still has to be seriously exhausted to lose on clay, a la Valencia 2005. Nadal will win in 3, and cause Federer's first straight set loss in almost two years. If they meet once more during clay season, Roger could be up for the pigeon thread :scared:.

mickymouse
04-23-2006, 08:36 AM
The minute Fed wins a match against Nadal, especially on clay, he's going to own Nadal for the rest of his career.

Rogiman
04-23-2006, 08:37 AM
The one-dimensional one will probably win.

Now let's see if he can get himself in a position to play Roger at the top grass and HC tourneys the way Roger did at the RG and MC on clay.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-23-2006, 08:43 AM
Nadal in 4.

Monteque
04-23-2006, 08:50 AM
Fed in 5.
This time fed will find the way, so Nadaaaal :bigwave:

Art&Soul
04-23-2006, 09:42 AM
Hopp ROGI, time to end his clay streak in three straight set win

stebs
04-23-2006, 09:47 AM
If Roger loses this match I think it doesn't matter for him because he will have taken away a good idea of what tactic is best to try and defeat Rafa on clay in the future. He has already done better here than most people expected and now joins a small list of players to have reached the final of all three clay TMS.

If Rafa loses this match things could be different. He might deal with it well but he might not. It will snap a very long streak on clay and Rafa will failed to win in the first tournament he is defending this year. Also he may not feel as confident going into the rest of the clay season.

It will be a great match for sure.

bad gambler
04-23-2006, 10:03 AM
If Roger loses this match I think it doesn't matter for him because he will have taken away a good idea of what tactic is best to try and defeat Rafa on clay in the future. He has already done better here than most people expected and now joins a small list of players to have reached the final of all three clay TMS.

I think it is widely accepted that Federer is the No.2 player on dirt so from my way of thinking it was expected he was to reach the final and play Nadal, the No.1.


If Rafa loses this match things could be different. He might deal with it well but he might not. It will snap a very long streak on clay and Rafa will failed to win in the first tournament he is defending this year. Also he may not feel as confident going into the rest of the clay season.

It will be a great match for sure.

It's more important for Federer to win this match than Nadal from a "who is going to win the French Open" perspective, another clay court beatdown is going to damage him mentally leading to the French Open.

oz_boz
04-23-2006, 10:35 AM
I think it is widely accepted that Federer is the No.2 player on dirt so from my way of thinking it was expected he was to reach the final and play Nadal, the No.1.

I think many people had not already became convinced that Roger is #2 on clay. Somehow in discussions of favourites on the dirt, Nadal-Coria-Gaudio-Ferrero are mentioned and Federer seems to be considered good-but-not-a-top-contender. Time for everyone to revise that opinion? At least Roger has had good runs in all major clay events, as stebs pointed out.

Deivid23
04-23-2006, 10:40 AM
If Roger wins, Nadal is done for the year and he will never win Federer again. Looking forward to reading the classical excuses if Rafa does, though.

willrock
04-23-2006, 11:40 AM
Roger will be the outsider for once and he'll win hopefully!
Whatever happens, it'll be a good training before Roland...

cornellboy
04-23-2006, 12:11 PM
I think that Nadal is the slight favorite (lke 55-45), and I think that IF Roger wins, it'll be in straight sets.

TennisGrandSlam
04-23-2006, 12:24 PM
Will Bjorn Borg come to watch the Federer-Nadal final as, Dubai Championship?

Bagelicious
04-23-2006, 04:43 PM
My heart says Roger my head says Rafa, he is the claycourt king for a reason

With you on that. I think it'll be Rafa in 4.

Man, I've never been so sad to be right.

NATAS81
04-23-2006, 04:44 PM
Federer has defeated Gonzalez and earned the right to lose the final in four sets.
The original and still the best.

bad gambler
04-23-2006, 05:14 PM
The original and still the best.


Nadal in 3 sets, 4 sets if he feels charitable


charity in the form of 2DF's whilst serving 5-3 up in the second set

i think i get this round :p ;)