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JCF vs David Ferrer

raeesa301
04-19-2006, 07:12 PM
Hope JCF keeps up with the good form! :yeah: :bounce:

NATAS81
04-19-2006, 07:18 PM
Hrbaty is a joke. He had the match in his palms.

JCF should win this.

LaTenista
04-19-2006, 07:19 PM
Hrbaty is a joke. He had the match in his palms.

JCF should win this.

Don't you know Ferrer's specialty is coming back to win after being 0-4 down in the final set? See his match vs Gaudio at RG last year. :p

LaTenista
04-19-2006, 07:20 PM
Ferrer leads Ferrero 2-1 in previous meetings, none on clay.

LaTenista
04-19-2006, 07:21 PM
Hope JCF keeps up with the good form! :yeah: :bounce:

Chela is pretty poor on dirt. :tape:

Blue Orange
04-19-2006, 07:24 PM
Can't see it being easy for either player - Ferrero has clearly picked up his form but Ferrer is a fighter and good on the red stuff - I will stick my neck out and say Ferrer in three.

raeesa301
04-19-2006, 07:28 PM
Chela is pretty poor on dirt. :tape:

Yeah, but at least Ferrero's gained some confidence. His scoreline in the tournament so far must have some impact on him. :p

Corinna
04-19-2006, 07:33 PM
Yeah, but at least Ferrero's gained some confidence. His scoreline in the tournament so far must have some impact on him. :p
finally some confidence he lacked so far...though it'll be a tough match i think :scratch:
vamos jc

lucashg
04-19-2006, 09:03 PM
I'd want to say Ferrer because he's been the better player for ages now and actually leads their H2H, but JCF's run has been more impressive, if beating Tursunov and Chela with those scorelines on clay can be called such a thing, on the other hand though, Ferrer got one of the toughest draws in the tournament and as stated many times, he never dies.

Vamos David, I think he will pull it off 2 or 3 tight sets.

Billabong
04-19-2006, 09:10 PM
GO JC, you can do it man:yeah:!!!

Sjengster
04-19-2006, 09:37 PM
Chela is pretty poor on dirt. :tape:

Eh? All his titles and his best GS result are on clay, I'm pretty sure he has his best career W/L record on that surface too. True, he didn't show up to work today with 12 winners to 40 UE, but certainly not a claycourt clown by any means.

NATAS81
04-19-2006, 09:38 PM
Titles shmitles. He hasn't done jack on clay lately.

Sjengster
04-19-2006, 09:49 PM
Apart from reach the final in Acapulco, the last tournament he played on clay before this one, but don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.

NATAS81
04-19-2006, 09:50 PM
Yeah, but that was a Spanish tourney.

Fisico
04-19-2006, 10:32 PM
i dont wanna jinx juan carlos, so i wont make a prediction. JC will be more fresh for this match, he had two easy matches compared to David's pair of 3 setters, so maybe he will cope better if it goes the distance even though ferrer is known for his fighting qualities..
Good luck JC, vamos :)

NATAS81
04-19-2006, 10:35 PM
Sometimes being fresh means being unprepared for a close battle.

Fisico
04-19-2006, 10:39 PM
it's ok :lol: , i think JC knows what to expect from David, all their previous matches have gone the full distance

NATAS81
04-19-2006, 10:44 PM
I wonder if they trained together ala Moya/Nadal. That would bode well for Ferrer to cut into Ferrero's current form thus far.

Jimnik
04-20-2006, 12:31 AM
I don't think Ferrer's long matches will put him at a disadvantage. He'll have more confidence if the match goes to a final set. Even if he's tired, the adrenaline will carry him through this match.

JC will have to out-play Ferrer. This is definately JC's biggest test, so far.

NYCtennisfan
04-20-2006, 12:38 AM
They've always had tough battles off of clay so I expect this to be more of the same. Expect a war.

Freeze17171
04-20-2006, 06:15 AM
Ferrer in 3, JCF has stormed through his first two matches but he was never tested and there weren't any big points to play. Ferrer is one of the biggest fighters around, and is used to playing close 3 set matches. JCF will fade as the pressure mounts and Ferrer takes the decisive set.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-20-2006, 06:51 AM
Ferrer is a good mental player,yesterday he lagged a break in last set and finally he could fight back,so it will be tough for Juan,esp play in longer time.I hope Juan will finish it fast! :rocker2:

Puschkin
04-20-2006, 08:13 AM
I will stick my neck out and say Ferrer in three.
I do the same, with the opposite result, though ;).

Leo
04-20-2006, 08:33 AM
Chela is pretty poor on dirt. :tape:

He's good enough, a former RG quarterfinalist.

I think Ferrero hadn't beaten a single Top 50 player coming into MC, so for him to beat two in a row with such ease is good. :) But David Ferrer is definitely a horse of a different color on this surface.

almouchie
04-20-2006, 08:42 AM
its 6-1 to Ferrer
he made quick work of JCF
come one Mosquito

LaTenista
04-20-2006, 08:42 AM
Ferrer has won 1st set 6-1. He's solid as a rock. :yeah: And it's 15-40 2 BPs in 1st game of 2nd set.

almouchie
04-20-2006, 08:54 AM
David Ferrer seems to be an underestimatd player
he has been in the top 20 for some time now
but looks to be floating with noone noticing him
he doesnt have any big weapons, but playing consistently, percentage play
& a good tactic on the court, he knows when to change something when things are not going well for him

Leo
04-20-2006, 08:55 AM
Ferrero 3-1, 15-15 in the 2nd set. :) Fight, vamos, fight. Ferrrrrr-ero, Ferrrrrrrr-ero.

Leo
04-20-2006, 08:56 AM
Ferrer's only getting 39% of his first serves in. But no matter, he wins almost as many points on his 2nd serve as his 1st.

almouchie
04-20-2006, 09:04 AM
3 all second set
JCF looks to have regained his composure

almouchie
04-20-2006, 09:07 AM
oops Ferrer has broken to lead 4-3 in third

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 09:07 AM
Ferrero has been ***** in a violent fashion.

Leo
04-20-2006, 09:16 AM
***** but fighting. Point for 5-3 Ferrer but break-back makes it 4-4. :)

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 09:30 AM
60% of the points in the 2nd set have gone against serve, typical dirtballing.

Guybrush
04-20-2006, 09:35 AM
60% of the points in the 2nd set have gone against serve, typical dirtballing.

They need to come in Croatia and learn how to serve :D

Click on this link (http://sports.si.cnn.com/default.asp?c=cnnsi&page=tennis-m/stat/atp-matchfacts.htm) and check the top "Acers" in the 2006. Ivanisevic's school :haha:

almouchie
04-20-2006, 09:36 AM
6-5 Ferrero
Ferrer on serve

almouchie
04-20-2006, 09:36 AM
its tie breaker time
vamos JCF

almouchie
04-20-2006, 09:43 AM
4 all in breaker
JCF had a mini break but wasted it

Guybrush
04-20-2006, 09:45 AM
JCF had a mini break but wasted it

A break is nothing in this match. Like in 99% of clay matches :haha:

betterthanhenman
04-20-2006, 09:47 AM
Pleeeeeease win now JC!!

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 09:50 AM
4 breaks not enough to win a set before a tb ferrerroeoroero clowns?

Guybrush
04-20-2006, 09:52 AM
4 breaks not enough to win a set before a tb ferrerroeoroero clowns?

What is this? Women's tennis? :haha:

Dirk
04-20-2006, 10:00 AM
Ferrer breaks 2-0 over JC.

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:04 AM
Ferrer breaks 2-0 over JC.

who cares about breaks? let us know when someone holds serve.

did anyone see the celebration ferrer did when he defied all odds and logic and held serve first game of the third set? super effort :worship: :worship:

almouchie
04-20-2006, 10:04 AM
it's one set all
but Ferrer s up 3 nil in third set

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:05 AM
Routine break of serve by ferrer to consolidate his holding of serve.

its not a vital hold of serve until you break in the next game

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 10:06 AM
Routine break of serve by ferrer to consolidate his holding of serve.

its not a vital hold of serve until you break in the next game
:haha:

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 10:12 AM
4:1 Ferrer, Ferrer leads by a double service hold!

Dirk
04-20-2006, 10:13 AM
:lol: Hiker. :)

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:13 AM
4:1 Ferrer, Ferrer leads by a double service hold!

looks over for ferrer with the o, he cant even break serve anymore

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 10:15 AM
looks over for ferrer with the o, he cant even break serve anymore:lol:
He does make it 2 holds to 3 :eek:

Dirk
04-20-2006, 10:16 AM
That Tommy and David match looks like it will be a long one. Glad they are not on Center Court. :)

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:20 AM
That Tommy and David match looks like it will be a long one. Glad they are not on Center Court. :)


there must be a unspoken rule in clay court tennis between players.
whenever a match is shorter then 3 hours the player with the huge lead must begin playing like crap before the other player is in control. Rinse and repeat until match has gone on for at least 3 hours.

Guybrush
04-20-2006, 10:24 AM
5-2 for Ferrer. Now JCF will win 3 in a row. Clay tennis :rolleyes:

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:27 AM
come on ferrer! break the match out.

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:32 AM
Ferrer you choker :mad: :mad: you better not screw up then next time you have a chance to break the match out

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 10:34 AM
Yeah, they're trading holds as if they were playing on grass :rolleyes:

Ferrero Forever
04-20-2006, 10:35 AM
did Ferrero win it? I damn hope so

hitchhiker
04-20-2006, 10:37 AM
Yeah, they're trading holds as if they were playing on grass :rolleyes:

lol
its over. :D

almouchie
04-20-2006, 10:37 AM
it is all over
Ferrer def JCF 6/1 6/7 6/3

Rogiman
04-20-2006, 10:39 AM
its over. :DThat pretty much sums it up :)

Guybrush
04-20-2006, 10:40 AM
it is all over

Thanks god! :worship:

Ferrero Forever
04-20-2006, 10:44 AM
DAMN.......not fair. Oh well, good for Ferrer I suppose.

Raquel
04-20-2006, 11:00 AM
Disappointing that JCF lost this match but it was more encouraging a loss than some lately. First set aside, it was pretty even. I was worried JC would quietly slip out at 1-6, 4-5 but he fought hard and it was the second game of the third set that let him down. A few loose errors in that game and he was always behind. JC had his chances. Two break points at 2-4 in the third set but two unforced errors on returns :( Another close loss in the end. He needs to start winning these matches again. I was encouraged to see him fight hard though. And his backhand was strong.

Ferrer was very solid though and played better when it counted at the end of that third set. That's the second Masters Series event in a row that I've seen Ferrer get warnings for kicking those big courtside clocks. He could do himself a freak injury one day :p I think he smashed a ball off one at close range as well. Don't think Rolex will be getting in touch for a sponsorship deal any time soon ;)

Andre♥
04-20-2006, 11:03 AM
Ferrero is the most defensive player in the ATP.

And against Ferrer, he had no chances because of that.

:sad:

Jimnik
04-20-2006, 11:05 AM
Ferrer was very good. He just had the mental edge throughout the whole match. Whenever there was a risk of JC sneaking ahead, Ferrer would play his best tennis.

Federer v Ferrer will be interesting but I hope David doesn't run out of gas.

Jimnik
04-20-2006, 11:10 AM
Ferrer in 3, JCF has stormed through his first two matches but he was never tested and there weren't any big points to play. Ferrer is one of the biggest fighters around, and is used to playing close 3 set matches. JCF will fade as the pressure mounts and Ferrer takes the decisive set.Good prediction.
Ferrer is a good mental player,yesterday he lagged a break in last set and finally he could fight back,so it will be tough for Juan,esp play in longer time.I hope Juan will finish it fast! Looks like we all knew about Ferrer's mental qualities. I guess it was a predictable result.

jrm
04-20-2006, 11:47 AM
JCF will NEVER again be where he once was ...

Puschkin
04-20-2006, 11:49 AM
Ferrero is the most defensive player in the ATP.

:rolleyes:

Billabong
04-20-2006, 12:01 PM
JC:bigcry: You needed this win, now many points are lost:sad:...

hablovah19
04-20-2006, 01:00 PM
JCF, hope you get back to your 2003 form soon! :hysteric:

sadhbh
04-20-2006, 01:11 PM
I am sad that he lost, but he was playing well. i really hope he regains his form again. But don't forget someone like Ivanisavic practically dissapeared and then suddenly won Wimbledon so I keep my hopes up.

bad gambler
04-20-2006, 01:13 PM
I'm shocked to see ferrero lose

LaTenista
04-20-2006, 01:17 PM
I'm shocked to see ferrero lose

Before today, their H2H was 2-1 Ferrer, now it's 3-1. Let's not forget Ferrer lost to Rafa last year in Miami, Roma, and Roland Garros.

bad gambler
04-20-2006, 01:21 PM
Before today, their H2H was 2-1 Ferrer, now it's 3-1. Let's not forget Ferrer lost to Rafa last year in Miami, Roma, and Roland Garros.


lol ;)

*Ljubica*
04-20-2006, 05:57 PM
Wel done David :bounce:

stebs
04-20-2006, 06:07 PM
Well done Ferrer but tough luck for Ferrero. I think the simple fact is Ferrero isn't a great player anymore. In my book Ferrer was favourite and he proved it, he will test Federer surely and an upset is a distinct possibility.

Scotso
04-20-2006, 06:14 PM
David :bounce:

Sue
04-20-2006, 08:50 PM
Congratulations to David!

:-))))))))))))))

NATAS81
04-20-2006, 09:01 PM
Next time, gadget. Next time.

Seriously, JCF is still a darkhorse for RG.

Corswandt
04-20-2006, 10:41 PM
I think the simple fact is Ferrero isn't a great player anymore.

In JCF, you can see the ruins of what once was a world class game. He used to be a contender for Slams, now he's an above average claycourter. On a few points here and there, you can still catch glimpses of a huge forehand, a dependable backhand that can hit deep shots or create sharp angles, and even a good first serve (better than Ferrer's anyway). But he can't get that game to work consistently for a full game, let alone a set or a match.

RogiFan88
04-21-2006, 12:58 AM
... Let's not forget Ferrer lost to Rafa last year in Miami, Roma, and Roland Garros.

:confused: What's that got to do with the price of milk?? :shrug:

LaTenista
04-21-2006, 02:56 AM
:confused: What's that got to do with the price of milk?? :shrug:

Just that had David not lost to Rafa those 3 times, he might have won a title last year or at least risen higher in the rankings.

:shrug: I fail to see what's shocking about him getting to the QFs, that was his result last year.