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(4) Ljubicic def Andreev: 6-3 4-6 6-2

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 06:33 PM
Ivan didnt face BP in 1st or 3rd set, had 3bps to start 2nd set, andreev savedd all of them, Andreev served for 2nd at 5-3, got broken at love, then broken Ivan at *30-40 for the set.

Ivan played good overall match, but had a shitty 2nd set, when he got broken 3 of last 4 service games, on good side, he did break Andreev back 2 of those 3 times

BP
ivan 5/11
Andreev 3/6 all in 2nd

coreyschucky
04-18-2006, 06:35 PM
Well done Ljubo...Congrats!!!!

gusman890
04-18-2006, 06:35 PM
hey, igor played a good 2nd, breaking ivans serve.

good match, too bad he was broken alot in the 3rd.

ivan wins on clay..yay ! (sorry about the rythem)

KalleOnAir
04-18-2006, 06:35 PM
well done Ivan :)

mangoes
04-18-2006, 06:36 PM
YAY! Ljubicic :)

Andre♥
04-18-2006, 06:36 PM
Be careful Nalbandian, Ivan is coming to get you!

Thank God he's not the Boogeyman! :tape:

croat123
04-18-2006, 06:36 PM
ajmo :p

Guybrush
04-18-2006, 06:38 PM
ivan wins on clay..yay ! (sorry about the rythem)

He will win a lot of clay matches this year. Mark my words! ;)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-18-2006, 06:40 PM
Ivan can win some matches on clay.Andreev isn't a poor clay player,so it's good to see this result,I'm really happy to see that! :smooch: The second set sucked though. :p

What a Russians' bad day! :aplot:

gusman890
04-18-2006, 07:01 PM
lol the members of the russian DC team must be kicking them selves.

watch out russia, Mardy Fish is here to save the day ! ;)

ys
04-18-2006, 07:03 PM
Who cares.. I remember the first time I've heard about Ljubicic was when he beat Kafelnikov in Monte Carlo in 1999 or so.. And? Kafelnikov is still a legend. Ljubicic? Still pretty much a nobody. Who cares about this mickey mouse tournament..

The Undertaker
04-18-2006, 07:12 PM
Did somebody say that Ljubicik is better then Kafelnikov? Or what is your point? Are you on drugs?

I don`t care about Ljubicic, but this is not mickey mouse tournament.

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 07:22 PM
Who cares.. I remember the first time I've heard about Ljubicic was when he beat Kafelnikov in Monte Carlo in 1999 or so.. And? Kafelnikov is still a legend. Ljubicic? Still pretty much a nobody. Who cares about this mickey mouse tournament..

according to who?

yeah, you're an idiot

where were you during Ivan last 5 majors

Madrid F
Paris F
AO- QF
IW- QF
Miami-F

i would say you care about Ljubicic, since you have been worried about him for past few years, must be killing you that he is #4, and has winning record vs "the legend" Kafelnikov

DrJules
04-18-2006, 07:26 PM
Not a surprising result considering the form of Ivan.

ExpectedWinner
04-18-2006, 07:33 PM
He continues to live up to his No2 in the world fantasy. :p

gusman890
04-18-2006, 07:36 PM
lol

if Ivan knocks out Nadal, (i dunno if they are even in the same half), THEN Ivan will deff. back him self up as the no.2 for beating the no.2 on his FAV surface.

Scotso
04-18-2006, 07:41 PM
Igor :sad:

NYCtennisfan
04-18-2006, 07:42 PM
Very good win for Ivan. Andreev is no pushover on any surface but is especially good on clay. Ivan served like he was on hardcourts in the 1st and 3rd sets.

ys
04-18-2006, 07:49 PM
where were you during Ivan last 5 majors

Madrid F
Paris F
AO- QF
IW- QF
Miami-F


Here is Ivan's last 5 majors.

AO2005 - R2
RG2005 - R1
W2005 - R1
US2005 - R3
AO2006 - QF

A result of mediocrity, if you ask me. :wavey:


i would say you care about Ljubicic, since you have been worried about him for past few years, must be killing you that he is #4


#4? So what? Haas was #2.. Bjorkman was #4, Davydenko was #5.. All fucking tennis giants..

and has winning record vs "the legend" Kafelnikov

Leave this one to yourself to enjoy.. You won't have many of those.. :wavey:

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 07:54 PM
Here is Ivan's last 5 majors.

AO2005 - R2
RG2005 - R1
W2005 - R1
US2005 - R3
AO2006 - QF


getting better, thanks for making me look good :yeah:


Leave this one to yourself to enjoy.. You won't have many of those.. :wavey
well as long as there are Russians playing he will

14-7 vs the Russians :lol:

ys
04-18-2006, 07:56 PM
Did somebody say that Ljubicik is better then Kafelnikov?


No.. Just memoiries.. From the times when the tennis Internet resources were scarce, and probably none of you guys were around.. But even then, after that win, there were tons of Croatians who instantly declared him "new Goran".. Same fools, who did the same two years later when another Croatian mediocrity fluked out a win over Federer..

I don`t care about Ljubicic, but this is not mickey mouse tournament.

Oh, yes it is..

NYCtennisfan
04-18-2006, 07:58 PM
All tournaments that are not Slams or where Marat loses are mickey mouse tournaments.

Signed,
ys

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 07:59 PM
this is too easy, he is mad about Croatia spanking Russia in DC last year. Ivan record vs Russians top 4 and Ivan 28-4 this year.

you fear those who you hate.


WOOT NOW BIATCH

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 08:00 PM
All tournaments that are not Slams or where Marat loses are mickey mouse tournaments.

Signed,
ys

:lol: :yeah:

bad gambler
04-18-2006, 08:01 PM
congrats ljubo

Sjengster
04-18-2006, 08:06 PM
No.. Just memoiries.. From the times when the tennis Internet resources were scarce, and probably none of you guys were around.. But even then, after that win, there were tons of Croatians who instantly declared him "new Goran".. Same fools, who did the same two years later when another Croatian mediocrity fluked out a win over Federer..

This would be the same Federer that you called a poor man's Kafelnikov at the time and described as "an all-court player with no real weapons"? :lol:
Here's the link to the words of wisdom: http://www.wtaworld.com/archive/index.php/t-28218.html

News for ya, ys: things change.

NYCtennisfan
04-18-2006, 08:17 PM
ysJun 25th, 2002, 06:32 PM
He is overrated, definitely.. He is an allcourt player with no real weapons. Pretty much like, say, Kafelnikov, except that I don't think he is as good as Kafelnikov. If he is not in his best form, anybody can beat him. His serve is not big, his volley is not of Rafter or Sampras class. One-handed topspin backhand is generally no good for any surface other than clay. And his forehand is not a killer shot either. If even one component of his allcourt game is off, he is in trouble.

Normally I would say that it's pretty weak to go back and find something that someone said a long time ago said and bring it back up, but with a poster as arrogant as ys, perhaps it should be done. How can anyone watch Federer at any time and say that his FH is not a killer shot? Even when he was losing to everybody he would hit FH winners from all over the place.

Mrs. GugaJun 22nd, 2002, 08:32 PM

Rogi will prove the nay-sayers wrong. It doesn't have to be today. But soon. You will all see! Wait and watch!

ys
04-18-2006, 08:18 PM
This would be the same Federer that you called a poor man's Kafelnikov at the time and described as "an all-court player with no real weapons"? :lol:
Here's the link to the words of wisdom: http://www.wtaworld.com/archive/index.php/t-28218.html

News for ya, ys: things change.

Oh my.. :lol: I am so flattered.. You keep track of everything of what I say.. I really appreciate.. :wavey:

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 08:21 PM
its time to close this thread, too many people making ys looking like a fool

gusman890
04-18-2006, 08:23 PM
ah-men to that ^

Sjengster
04-18-2006, 08:42 PM
Normally I would say that it's pretty weak to go back and find something that someone said a long time ago said and bring it back up, but with a poster as arrogant as ys, perhaps it should be done. How can anyone watch Federer at any time and say that his FH is not a killer shot? Even when he was losing to everybody he would hit FH winners from all over the place.

I know hindsight is a marvellous thing, but come on, no weapons - if I had been around at the time I would still have laughed at that statement. And it's relevant to the discussion in this thread anyway, because it goes to show how players change and improve with time; hence, it's unreasonable for ys to sneer about Ljubicic based on his past results from previous years. I'm not implying he's going to improve to the level Federer did, but he is already a better player and can still go further.

Sjengster
04-18-2006, 08:43 PM
Oh my.. :lol: I am so flattered.. You keep track of everything of what I say.. I really appreciate.. :wavey:

Rest assured, I'm not stalking all your posts - just bringing up the relevant ones. :)

DrJules
04-18-2006, 08:45 PM
according to who?

yeah, you're an idiot

where were you during Ivan last 5 majors

Madrid F
Paris F
AO- QF
IW- QF
Miami-F

i would say you care about Ljubicic, since you have been worried about him for past few years, must be killing you that he is #4, and has winning record vs "the legend" Kafelnikov

When did master series events become majors; possibly you could classify the Masters Cup as a major, but then Ivan did not do too well there - a slight problem with David :lol: .

Yergeht Fladnag
04-18-2006, 09:07 PM
possibly you could classify the Masters Cup as a major, but then Ivan did not do too well there - a slight problem with David :lol: .
"Problem" is a matter of the past, it seems... :tape:

El Legenda
04-18-2006, 09:07 PM
When did master series events become majors; possibly you could classify the Masters Cup as a major, but then Ivan did not do too well there - a slight problem with David :lol: .

majors= 4GS 9TMS too me, rest-minor :)

Neely
04-18-2006, 09:40 PM
Good job, Ljubicic!

justClaudia
04-18-2006, 09:41 PM
:awww: Igor.

NATAS81
04-18-2006, 10:20 PM
That, ladies and gentlemen, completes the mafia for MC.

Fergie
04-19-2006, 02:07 AM
Well done Ivan! :yeah:

Merton
04-19-2006, 02:10 AM
Congrats Ljubo, Andreev on clay is a solid win.