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Lisnard defeats Murray 4-6, 7-6, 7-5

mangoes
04-18-2006, 03:59 PM
Now, is this the definition of a choke????

Congrats Lisnard :D

revolution
04-18-2006, 04:05 PM
Yes. Too negative when in front, should be going for the kill not sitting back. Too many mistakes that weren't forced, crappy serving, well, maybe he's not that good.

Still support him, but there's no doubt he's the worst of the eight youngsters. :(

Jimnik
04-18-2006, 05:16 PM
Andy :banghead:

So typical :rolleyes:

musefanatic
04-18-2006, 05:26 PM
Andy!!! :( He did get an injury though in the third, his ankle obviously. Damn thing!!! :( :(

Duncan
04-18-2006, 05:32 PM
Yes. Too negative when in front, should be going for the kill not sitting back. Too many mistakes that weren't forced, crappy serving, well, maybe he's not that good.

Still support him, but there's no doubt he's the worst of the eight youngsters. :(


Who are the 8 youngsters you are going on about?

Duncan
04-18-2006, 05:33 PM
Andy!!! :( He did get an injury though in the third, his ankle obviously. Damn thing!!! :( :(


Don't think he's injured, Live score from monte carlo site suggests he's playing doubles right now with Tim

mangoes
04-18-2006, 05:37 PM
Andy!!! :( He did get an injury though in the third, his ankle obviously. Damn thing!!! :( :(

Doubtful, he's playing doubles right now.......

Duncan
04-18-2006, 05:54 PM
Tim and Andy are through i think, retirement!

JBdV
04-18-2006, 06:00 PM
Yes. Too negative when in front, should be going for the kill not sitting back. Too many mistakes that weren't forced, crappy serving, well, maybe he's not that good.

Still support him, but there's no doubt he's the worst of the eight youngsters. :(
yeah who are the 8 youngsters?

musefanatic
04-18-2006, 06:01 PM
Oh right, i heard he got injured and could hardly run or serve towards the end of the match! :confused:

ezekiel
04-18-2006, 06:07 PM
yeah who are the 8 youngsters?

Nadal, Djokovic, Gasquet, Berdych, Murray, Baghdatis, Monfils is all I can think of

A_Skywalker
04-18-2006, 06:12 PM
Hes definately better than Monfils . In the last set he served the last points with speed avout 80 km\h , cause he couldnt get his feet of the ground

Allez
04-18-2006, 06:14 PM
Wasn't injured. He was cramping as usual. Perhaps firing Petchey wasn't such a wise move afterall. He used to go on about how clay is his favourite surface. Quite strange then that he should be losing to the world no. 154 who isn't even a clay specialist :eek: :eek: :eek: . He's got his work cut out for him if he wishes to be seeded for Wimbledon. If he lacks the stamina to go the distance on clay, he can forget about picking up points during the clay season. Such a pity. No Brits left :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Allez
04-18-2006, 06:16 PM
Nadal, Djokovic, Gasquet, Berdych, Murray, Baghdatis, Monfils is all I can think of

Throw in Wawrinka in there as well...though he lost as well :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

JBdV
04-18-2006, 06:17 PM
oh yeah, Wawrinka... forgot him, though he doesn't get mentioned with those others that often

JBdV
04-18-2006, 06:18 PM
Or maybe he meant Almagro :confused:

ezekiel
04-18-2006, 06:20 PM
Throw in Wawrinka in there as well...though he lost as well :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Actually both Wawrinka and Baghdatis are 20 years old and thus not teenagers so I'd take them out as they have been around long enough

Allez
04-18-2006, 06:27 PM
Actually both Wawrinka and Baghdatis are 20 years old and thus not teenagers so I'd take them out as they have been around long enough

It's weird when Murray lost to Wawrinka at IW, news reports here had the headlines "Murray crashes to Swiss teenager". I was, like Stan is no teenager :scratch:. He's 21 :secret:. Still I think of him as one of the young guns.

Fisico
04-18-2006, 06:48 PM
i wanted a Nadal vs Murray match :( . obviously rafa would have ripped him a new one anyway but it would have been nice

Scotso
04-18-2006, 07:42 PM
Pf, Andy.

Sjengster
04-18-2006, 07:54 PM
i wanted a Nadal vs Murray match :( . obviously rafa would have ripped him a new one anyway but it would have been nice

I was thinking so too until about an hour and a half into the match, when I realised that the way Murray was playing it would have been downright painful to watch him against Nadal even if he managed to scrape through this one.

DrJules
04-18-2006, 08:06 PM
Bad result for Murray, but overall has had successful year highlighted by win in US beating Andy Roddick in semi-final and Hewitt in final; even out of form they are still worthy players to beat.

LaTenista
04-18-2006, 08:31 PM
Is this the same Murray who beat Hewitt to win San Jose?

I hope Nadal double bagels Lizard Lips tomorrow.

CooCooCachoo
04-18-2006, 08:45 PM
About the easiest draw possible for Murray, so a very bad loss.

Lisnard :yeah: :banana:

Allez
04-18-2006, 08:47 PM
Aside from San Jose, Murray has had a horrific 2006. You're only as good as your last match. He just can't hack it at the big tournaments at the moment. I hope he's entered himself in other small clay tournaments or he could wind up having only played 3 matches on clay before Paris :eek::eek::eek:

Sjengster
04-18-2006, 08:48 PM
Is this the same Murray who beat Hewitt to win San Jose?

I hope Nadal double bagels Lizard Lips tomorrow.

No no, Mahut has been designated Lizard Lips - Lisnard is Mini-Me.

stebs
04-18-2006, 08:51 PM
Murray is on terrible form. It's a shame because it would have been nice to see how his game fairs on clay. Hard to judge when he has cramps and plays so badly.

DrJules
04-18-2006, 08:59 PM
Aside from San Jose, Murray has had a horrific 2006. You're only as good as your last match. He just can't hack it at the big tournaments at the moment. I hope he's entered himself in other small clay tournaments or he could wind up having only played 3 matches on clay before Paris :eek::eek::eek:

Winning your first tournament is always a big step and achievement. He was actually 30th in the ATP race for this year before Monte Carlo. If he ended the year 30th I would not call it a horrific year.

Jaap
04-18-2006, 09:03 PM
Murray is better than Monfils and Djokovic surely?

Allez
04-18-2006, 09:12 PM
Winning your first tournament is always a big step and achievement. He was actually 30th in the ATP race for this year before Monte Carlo. If he ended the year 30th I would not call it a horrific year.

That is why I said "aside from San Jose" He had a brilliant 3 weeks in San Jose/ Memphis, when ironically, his coach wasn't there. But other than that he's lost 1st or 2nd rounds in all other tournaments. There's nothing great about that. I'm a Murray fan, but I'm a realist as well.

Jaap
04-18-2006, 09:15 PM
That is why I said "aside from San Jose" He had a brilliant 3 weeks in San Jose/ Memphis, when ironically, his coach wasn't there. But other than that he's lost 1st or 2nd rounds in all other tournaments. There's nothing great about that. I'm a Murray fan, but I'm a realist as well.
I guess its all part of the learning process. Monfils is suffering this year, as is Gasquet. Both have barely got past 1st rounds.

Duncan
04-18-2006, 10:50 PM
to be fair to Andy if he was suffering from glandular fever just 2 weeks ago then that can be a 6month illness which really does knock the stuffing out of you. He wasn't just tired in the 3rd set he was blowing out of his backside midway through the 2nd.

LaTenista
04-18-2006, 11:13 PM
No no, Mahut has been designated Lizard Lips - Lisnard is Mini-Me.

My bad. :o

silverwhite
04-19-2006, 12:03 AM
Is this the same Murray who beat Hewitt to win San Jose?

I hope Nadal double bagels Lizard Lips tomorrow.

Chole is going to murder you. :o

SwissMister1
04-19-2006, 12:08 AM
Two of Monaco's native sons into the second round. I'm sure Jean-Rene will be knighted by the Prince for his brilliance.

Merton
04-19-2006, 01:31 AM
Murray looked totally out of conditioning but losing to Lisnard is embarassing under any circumstances.

Merton
04-19-2006, 03:42 AM
Is this the same Murray who beat Hewitt to win San Jose?

I hope Nadal double bagels Lizard Lips tomorrow.

The mighty Monegasque crowd will boost Lisnard to a win over Rafa in a match that will be remembered for the ages.

robert6061
04-19-2006, 04:15 AM
Andy was the author of his own misfortunes. He was a break of serve up in the second set and should have closed out the match before cramp became a real problem. He was a break of serve up yet again in the third. Murray has quite a way to go before he matures mentally as well as physically. Full marks though to Jean Rene.He had a very successful junior career and it was a disappointment that he hasn't had more success at senior level. He is a great athlete and ground out a three hour match without having won a match on the ATP tour this year. His forehand is a joy to watch.