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Haas def. Roddick to move into the Houston semis 6-7 6-4 6-4

NATAS81
04-15-2006, 03:26 AM
Whoa baby. The king has been dethroned. Guess this makes the Haas the favorite to hoist the big boy.

Volcanic Tennis
04-15-2006, 03:26 AM
Poor Andy :hug:

Better luck next time.

Good job Tommy...

whosthis77
04-15-2006, 03:27 AM
Well done tommy..

andy.. :sobbing:

Fee
04-15-2006, 03:28 AM
wow, I bet that was a heck of a match to be in the bleachers for. Bummer.

Tennis Fool
04-15-2006, 03:30 AM
How many points will Roddick lose/Haas gain?

kerrie1981
04-15-2006, 03:30 AM
Awesome! Does this mean that Roddick would slip down to fifth in the rankings?

The Daviator
04-15-2006, 03:30 AM
WTG Tommy! :yeah:

Havok
04-15-2006, 03:30 AM
Andy :sad:. INcedible effort though for a "crappy clay courter" :p.

Haas :yeah:. This match was pretty much the finals, now it should be smooth sailing for Tommy. Just don't fuck up PLEASE, orelse this match will be all for nothing.:o

tangerine_dream
04-15-2006, 03:32 AM
Congrats to Tommy! :D

Congrats to Andy on a good fight, even though he couldn't hold serve and blew away a million bp's. :lol: He did good to steal a set from Tommy on clay.

Tommy-Mardy SF. Intriguing. :aplot:

Havok
04-15-2006, 03:32 AM
How many points will Roddick lose/Haas gain?

Not a lot, and not a lot yet respectively. If Haas goes on to win the title he can add something like 175 points this week. Off the top of my head, I'd guess Andy drops around 100-120 points, nothing big at all really.

Jimnik
04-15-2006, 03:32 AM
:banghead: Andy has only himself to blame. He missed many break point chances and, as the match progressed, he was being broken very easily.

Not only will he drop to no.5 in the rankings but he'll head into Europe even more poorly prepared than ever.

He could have easily made it to Monte-Carlo but instead he'll have to go the next 3 weeks without any competitive tennis. By Wimbledon, he'll probably be ranked 6 or 7.

amierin
04-15-2006, 03:33 AM
Seems like this was a competitive match with Andy coming up short in the third set. Too bad we have nothing to go on but the scores of the three sets and the worst scoreboard ever. Thanks Mattress Mat or whatever your name is.

Givenchy
04-15-2006, 03:35 AM
Tommy:yeah: Congrats on the win! :D

Now go on and take the title :)

georgekuo1017
04-15-2006, 03:35 AM
Good job Tommy...

Leo
04-15-2006, 03:36 AM
Haas simply couldn't lose to Roddick on clay and maintain any credibility.

Methinks Tommy is becoming the Mickey Mouse Tournament Champion of 2006! This could be his 3rd.

mojo37_12
04-15-2006, 03:36 AM
Maybe that's what Andy needs... slipping outside the top ten might just put back some sense into him.

Havok
04-15-2006, 03:36 AM
:banghead: Andy has only himself to blame. He missed many break point chances and, as the match progressed, he was being broken very easily.

Not only will he drop to no.5 in the rankings but he'll head into Europe even more poorly prepared than ever.

He could have easily made it to Monte-Carlo but instead he'll have to go the next 3 weeks without any competitive tennis. By Wimbledon, he'll probably be ranked 6 or 7.

Prepared or not heading into the Euro clay swing doesn't matter for Andy :o. It's his attitude/belief that makes all the difference, and he'll likely suck yet again for the 6th straight year and every single year of his entire career :(. YEah He'll probably dropp in the 6-8 range in the ranks for a bit, but it doesn't matter because if he finds his head he can add SO many points during his 2nd favorite swing of the year, summer hardcourts :bounce:.

tt boy
04-15-2006, 03:37 AM
ANDY!!!!!!WTF WAS THAT http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9369/trxsmly013lr.gif

Havok
04-15-2006, 03:39 AM
Maybe that's what Andy needs... slipping outside the top ten might just put back some sense into him.
Agreed, although his DC match vs Chile seemed to knock some sense back into him and this loss to Haas really isn't all that bad. YEs the blown/watsed opportunities suck, but there is no shame whatsoever losing to Haas, especially on clay. 6-4 in the 3rd shows that he was in there for the entire match and gave Haas one hell of a battle. It just sucks that there's a solid 1-2 months of clay now because Andy'll just tank on it.

Yappa
04-15-2006, 03:43 AM
Congrats Tommy! If only he could have similiar success in the big tourneys. I am already seeing him losing in first or second round of MC IF he plays there.

bellascarlett
04-15-2006, 03:44 AM
Haas :yeah:

Havok
04-15-2006, 03:53 AM
Congrats Tommy! If only he could have similiar success in the big tourneys. I am already seeing him losing in first or second round of MC IF he plays there.
Ran into Federer early at both AO and Miami, and had food poisoning vs Blake in the 4r of IW. He's definitely holding his onw in the big events.;)

bavaria100
04-15-2006, 03:53 AM
Prepared or not heading into the Euro clay swing doesn't matter for Andy :o. It's his attitude/belief that makes all the difference, and he'll likely suck yet again for the 6th straight year and every single year of his entire career :(.

Don't be so hard on him. He played a good european clay court season in 2002 (he reached the semis in Rome, third round in Monte Carlo and Hamburg). :) But I agree with you that his attitude decides wether he has a good clay season or not.


Still, this is a great win for Tommy and I hope that he takes the title now.

WuMiE
04-15-2006, 03:55 AM
I love Haas. So congrats ! But Andy =[

darnyelb
04-15-2006, 03:56 AM
seems to have been a competitively played match. From seeing Haas play on Monday, I thought he was mostly in good form except for a brief dip in concentration.

Who would've thought neither Blake nor Roddick would be the Americans to make the final weekend? Instead it's Fish and Goldstein.

robinhood
04-15-2006, 03:58 AM
Andy... he just can't get over the hump.... I feel bad for him.

anserq
04-15-2006, 04:00 AM
Hell yeah Haas, nice job!

disturb3d
04-15-2006, 04:03 AM
I'm pretty dissapointed in Haas.
He really shouldn't be struggling against Roddick.

morningglory
04-15-2006, 04:43 AM
Good try Andy. as expected. but you took a set
(see how much Andy's followers have faith in him)

star
04-15-2006, 04:51 AM
:sad: Andy

:hatoff: Haas

mangoes
04-15-2006, 05:00 AM
Just got home and saw the score................Damnit Andy!!! :sad: :sad:

simer
04-15-2006, 05:14 AM
He made the finals of Rome in '02 man, I'm pretty sure ...but then got a drubbing from Agassi unfortuantely in the final

prima donna
04-15-2006, 05:29 AM
Move it to the left, move it to the right ...

Roddick is finished.

NYCtennisfan
04-15-2006, 05:41 AM
Ivan moves up to #4 in the world, and Davydenko is only about 30 points behind in the rankings but has a lot to defend in the next month.

Merton
04-15-2006, 05:59 AM
Congrats to Haas, it was a very close match. Andy had his chances at both the second and third set but couldn't convert.

Jairus
04-15-2006, 06:21 AM
he'll probably be ranked 6 or 7.

Wimbledon is not an issue because they will still seed him highly, likely at #2

Allez
04-15-2006, 06:45 AM
Andy :bigcry::bigcry::bigcry:

Tommy :yeah::yeah::yeah:

Black Adam
04-15-2006, 08:02 AM
Wimbledon is not an issue because they will still seed him highly, likely at #2
He will automatically be seeded number 2;)

mickymouse
04-15-2006, 08:14 AM
Considering the form that Haas is in, this isn't a bad result for Roddick at all, especially on clay.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-15-2006, 08:42 AM
The duck wasn't too bad,but I think Tommy should have won earlier! :o
Anyway congrats Tommy! :dance:

TheBoiledEgg
04-15-2006, 09:35 AM
says alot about Houston when Mardy Fish can make semis on a clay tourn :rolls:

Tommy !!!!!!!!!!!!!

OddJob
04-15-2006, 09:44 AM
The clay court season will be over soon enough Andy. :)


Congrats to Tommy.

Alexiana
04-15-2006, 11:48 AM
Great job Tommy :yeah: I really like the Haas06 version :lol:

nobama
04-15-2006, 12:00 PM
He will automatically be seeded number 2;)How far would he have to fall in the rankings NOT to be seeded #2? I mean if he's ranked #6 or higher at the time the draw is done can they still seed him #2 at Wimbledon? :confused:

Neely
04-15-2006, 12:13 PM
Andy :sad: :shrug:

Congrats Tommy, now win the tournament please! :)

TheBoiledEgg
04-15-2006, 12:53 PM
How far would he have to fall in the rankings NOT to be seeded #2? I mean if he's ranked #6 or higher at the time the draw is done can they still seed him #2 at Wimbledon? :confused:


he wont be seeded #2 at Wimbledon for sure
thats a guarantee unless Rafa or Fed dont play.
he's too far behind in pts.

Duck will be #3 seed, but i'm sure he'll be fixed to be in the other half :rolleyes: :o

avocadoe
04-15-2006, 12:59 PM
it's hard to judge those chances without seeing the match, or, at least some stats, but seemed like a fighting effort from Andy throughout. Maybe he'll have an okay european clay tour this year and surprsie us all. Remember he's going with "home-cooking" John :) I think Wimbledon can do what they want. Rafa #2 on grass doesn't sound right. I mean will Roger be #1 at RG, No, and he is more points ahead of Rafa.

avocadoe
04-15-2006, 01:02 PM
ps.I know my example is totally different, but its the same, too :)

LCeh
04-15-2006, 06:30 PM
How far would he have to fall in the rankings NOT to be seeded #2? I mean if he's ranked #6 or higher at the time the draw is done can they still seed him #2 at Wimbledon? :confused:

I will give a crack at this, but I am no expert in these calculations, so I might make a mistake. :o

If I am not mistaken, Wimbledon gives a 100% bonus to your points earned on grass in the previous year, and 75% for the year before that.

So not counting what happened this week, currently Nadal is at 4545 and Roddick is at 2655. Nadal got 35 points from Wimbledon last year and 5 points from Halle, so I guess 40 points would be added to his current ranking, giving 4585.

Roddick was finalist for the last 2 years in Wimbledon and won Queen's both years, so that is an extra 1619 points? So his points on grass this year would be 4274.

So if I didn't make any mistake, and both players defend all the points from last year and not win anything extra, then Nadal would be seeded 2 at Wimbledon.

oneandonlyhsn
04-15-2006, 07:32 PM
I will give a crack at this, but I am no expert in these calculations, so I might make a mistake. :o

If I am not mistaken, Wimbledon gives a 100% bonus to your points earned on grass in the previous year, and 75% for the year before that.

So not counting what happened this week, currently Nadal is at 4545 and Roddick is at 2655. Nadal got 35 points from Wimbledon last year and 5 points from Halle, so I guess 40 points would be added to his current ranking, giving 4585.

Roddick was finalist for the last 2 years in Wimbledon and won Queen's both years, so that is an extra 1619 points? So his points on grass this year would be 4274.

So if I didn't make any mistake, and both players defend all the points from last year and not win anything extra, then Nadal would be seeded 2 at Wimbledon.

:eek:

Nadal #2 seed at Wimby :tape: its as funny as Andy being the 2nd seed last year at RG. I wish they sticked with surface rakings

morningglory
04-15-2006, 07:34 PM
:lol: Everyone's gonna be praying to be in Rafael's 1/2 this Wimby...

TenHound
04-15-2006, 07:51 PM
It's a hoot for Roger to be seeded #1 in Paris. Sounds like it's time for RG to adopt Wimby's practice of doing independent surface based seeding, as obviously Thuggy should be #1 seed.

guess Hewitt won't be bitching about his Wimby seeding this yr :)