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Don't be afraid of some dirt - U.S. Men's Claycourt Championship

16681
03-02-2006, 05:17 AM
I started this thread because this in the next Tournament that I saw Robby's name as being on the Entry List. I guess he is taking a long break, maybe he needs one, because this Tournament doesn't start until April :confused:

Deboogle!.
03-02-2006, 05:22 AM
UH..... did you just.... miss the two big masters events coming up in the next month??????????????

http://menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=66877
http://menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=68703

:scratch: :confused: :shrug:

Deboogle!.
03-02-2006, 05:30 AM
Robby's confidence is so low he might lose to Bye..... maybe he doesn't want to take that risk :sad:

Fee
03-02-2006, 05:33 AM
um... wow...

16681
03-02-2006, 05:44 AM
I thought he would be at Indian Wells or Miami? But I didn't see his name anywhere :confused: Come to think of it the next place I saw Andy's name was also at the Claycourt Championships :confused: Am I missing something here :confused: All of you know by now I'm no tennis expert :sad:

Deboogle!.
03-02-2006, 05:45 AM
Ummmmmmm..... I posted the links to the entry lists for you????????????

Fee
03-02-2006, 05:47 AM
Where did you look Mae? Did you look here at MTF in the tournament threads?

am&a
03-02-2006, 05:48 AM
underlined items are links to something else.

Deboogle!.
03-02-2006, 05:48 AM
Where did you look Mae? Did you look here at MTF in the tournament threads?What, you mean the ones I explicitly link to in the 2nd post of this thread?!!?

Fee
03-02-2006, 05:51 AM
No, I mean before that. I want to know where Mae looked before she started this thread.

superpinkone37
03-02-2006, 06:04 AM
HI MAE!

16681
03-02-2006, 07:54 AM
Where did you look Mae? Did you look here at MTF in the tournament threads?
Yes, but I finally noticed there were two entry lists and that I had looked at the wrong list! Sorry Deb I didn't pick up on the links you gave in your posts. I was so busy trying to figure out what was wrong that I didn't even notice that you had given me the correct information! Gee I don't know when I will be able to follow everything about these Tournaments. All I'm used to doing is watching Matches on TV when I can find any to watch with the poor TV coverage. I'm not like the rest of you I have never been to a Tennis Tournament in my life :sad:

tangerine_dream
03-02-2006, 04:36 PM
Robby's confidence is so low he might lose to Bye..... maybe he doesn't want to take that risk :sad:
:lol:

16681
03-02-2006, 05:42 PM
:lol:
Actually I think Robby is doing better than I am which certainly isn't saying much :eek:

Horatio Caine
03-05-2006, 12:54 AM
All of you know by now I'm no tennis expert :sad:

Neither is Ginepri :tape:

bavaria100
03-29-2006, 05:48 PM
I guess it's time to look forward to Houston. The clay season is already knocking at the door. :scared: How many matches will Robby win in Houston this year? I think he will lose his first round match, but I wouldn't be mad at him if he decides to prove me wrong. :bigclap: Good luck Robby!!! :bigclap:

16681
03-29-2006, 07:17 PM
I guess it's time to look forward to Houston. The clay season is already knocking at the door. :scared: How many matches will Robby win in Houston this year? I think he will lose his first round match, but I wouldn't be mad at him if he decides to prove me wrong. :bigclap: Good luck Robby!!! :bigclap:
I agree on both points and I also agree with Good Luck Robby because I think he is going to need it :scared:

bavaria100
03-30-2006, 04:12 PM
Speaking of clay season, I just read that Robby is going to play the World Team Cup in Düsseldorf this year. Looks as if he really wants to become a better player on clay. :yeah:

16681
03-30-2006, 04:39 PM
Speaking of clay season, I just read that Robby is going to play the World Team Cup in Düsseldorf this year. Looks as if he really wants to become a better player on clay. :yeah:
I hate to say it, but this year he needs to be a better player everywhere :sad: However, he has had some health
problems which I'm sure hasn't helped him any :bigcry: So ready or not here comes the Clay Court Season :scared:

Deboogle!.
03-30-2006, 04:43 PM
He's also playing the River Oaks International exhibition next week. So it'll be Andy, Robby, and the Bryans in Dusseldorf, one of the best teams the US has put there in a while :)

16681
03-30-2006, 05:23 PM
He's also playing the River Oaks International exhibition next week. So it'll be Andy, Robby, and the Bryans in Dusseldorf, one of the best teams the US has put there in a while :)
Oh how nice. Thank you for posting that Deb ;)

Fee
03-30-2006, 05:23 PM
Andy is playing Dusseldorf? wow.

Deboogle!.
03-30-2006, 05:27 PM
Yep he confirmed months ago, he was like the first person to confirm. Craziness.

Here's the site of the River Oaks thingy

www.riveroaksinternational.com

bavaria100
03-30-2006, 05:50 PM
I hate to say it, but this year he needs to be a better player everywhere :sad: However, he has had some health
problems which I'm sure hasn't helped him any :bigcry: So ready or not here comes the Clay Court Season :scared:

That's true, but in contrast to his clay results he already showed that he can compete on hard courts. I don't know how his record on clay looks like, but I think it might be 3-18 or something like that. I'm sure that he will be healthy for the tournament in Houston.

Lee
03-30-2006, 05:53 PM
Thanks for the link. May be it's a good thing that Robby can play some matches without the kind of pressure in ATP tour.

Pepper LaRue
03-30-2006, 07:13 PM
Is anyone here going to the River Oaks thingy?

16681
03-30-2006, 11:45 PM
Yes Deb thanks for the link ;) It may be just what Robby needs :)

Fee
03-31-2006, 12:58 AM
Looks like Robby is going to be the one who plays Pete at the River Oaks Thingy. Scared of that (wish I could see it).

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 01:01 AM
Cool cool that's what the rumor mill had suggested (well him or Taylor and Taylor's obviously not fit or whatever). River Oaks is supposed to be a nice little event. Shame on me that I never made it over there while I was in town.

16681
03-31-2006, 04:25 AM
Looks like Robby is going to be the one who plays Pete at the River Oaks Thingy. Scared of that (wish I could see it).
AHHHHHHHHHHH May be this isn't what Robby needs :scared: But it does sound like a nice event ;)

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 04:27 AM
I bet he's really excited and honored to be a part of it :)

16681
03-31-2006, 04:54 AM
I bet he's really excited and honored to be a part of it :)
Oh I'm sure he is ;) I think Robby really does want to be a part of events, but he is just having such a bad year on the courts so that holds him back. I honestly thought Robby would at least be able to hold what he gained last year, but he just hasn't done it :sad: I was ready for James to have a break out year and he seems so far to have really done that :yippee: But Robby :shrug:

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 05:19 AM
I don't really think an exhibition with Pete has any logical relevance to anything related to his struggles this season one way or the other.

am&a
03-31-2006, 05:24 AM
AHHHHHHHHHHH May be this isn't what Robby needs :scared: are you saying robby doesn't need may? |:

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 05:25 AM
maybe he's a Juneist

idolwatcher1
03-31-2006, 06:08 AM
Will Robby be able to talk Andy into playing doubles with him in Houston? :p I want Gineproddick back! Andy played doubles there last year I believe...

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 06:12 AM
hm, maybe... except that Andy will be coming from Davis Cup which he wasn't last year, and last year he just played with an oooollllllldddd buddy. I suppose if they were guaranteed a match before his singles match he might, to get his clay feet, but I would be pretty surprised if he plays doubles in houston this year.

idolwatcher1
03-31-2006, 06:21 AM
:sad: well, maybe Robby will play with Bobby again... yay... :awww:

16681
03-31-2006, 08:05 AM
:sad: well, maybe Robby will play with Bobby again... yay... :awww:
Since Bobby is in the Tournament that would work out probably well for both of them. I just hope that Robby doesn't get sick in Houston :eek:

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 03:44 PM
You don't like Bobby, Andrea? He seems like a nice guy :D

Horatio Caine
03-31-2006, 09:08 PM
Oh man...Robby is going to have so much fun in 2 weeks...and for the next 2 months :haha: :haha:

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 09:26 PM
oh Jez you don't even have to wait that long. clay season starts next week!

idolwatcher1
03-31-2006, 10:55 PM
You don't like Bobby, Andrea? He seems like a nice guy :D
I like Bobby... I'm just not excited about them playing doubles together... Gineproddick won their last match! And I want a continuation of what they started because they deserved to play another match together... :awww:

Deboogle!.
03-31-2006, 10:59 PM
Well, they won but it was a really easy match considering one of the guys had like never played pro tennis before, certainly not against (or with) top players. I doubt they're gonna go out and win titles :lol:

Anyway I really doubt Andy will play doubles anyway. I suppose anything's possible, but I'd be surprised.

idolwatcher1
04-01-2006, 12:04 AM
titles!?? :lol: I wasn't even going there! I just like them playing together :D ...and when they win, it's icing on the cake for me! :lick:

Deboogle!.
04-01-2006, 12:13 AM
well Andy made it sound like they had fun so maybe they will play together again :) It would be good to see him play on clay over in Europe a bit, maybe they can play Rome doubles or something :)

idolwatcher1
04-01-2006, 05:34 AM
:secret: just as long as no one has any accidents...

Deboogle!.
04-01-2006, 06:08 AM
they won't :)

idolwatcher1
04-02-2006, 04:23 AM
Is anyone here going to the River Oaks thingy?
Oddly enough, I had planned to be in Houston next weekend even before I was aware of the River Oaks thingy... I may just try to fit that into my schedule and be there Saturday (maybe even Sunday), but we'll see... I will definitely have to be back in Austin, Monday...

Deboogle!.
04-02-2006, 04:25 AM
You planned to be in Houston? why would anyone PLAN to be in Houston!?!!!!? :p

superpinkone37
04-02-2006, 04:30 AM
I would.

Wait, what's today......

Deboogle!.
04-02-2006, 04:33 AM
:haha:

16681
04-03-2006, 02:18 AM
Oddly enough, I had planned to be in Houston next weekend even before I was aware of the River Oaks thingy... I may just try to fit that into my schedule and be there Saturday (maybe even Sunday), but we'll see... I will definitely have to be back in Austin, Monday...
I hope you get to go and get to see Robby ;) If you do go, be sure to take some pictures for the rest of us to see :cool:

Deboogle!.
04-03-2006, 04:05 PM
Here's the draw for the River Oaks Exho - robby has a bye like all the seeds :)

http://riveroaksinternational.com/draw.htm

And it appears that his match against Pete will be viewable live online at the USTA site!

idolwatcher1
04-03-2006, 10:17 PM
hmm... very cool! :)

Deboogle!.
04-04-2006, 02:06 AM
Appears Robby's also playing doubles.. with Francisco!

16681
04-04-2006, 05:14 AM
Appears Robby's also playing doubles.. with Francisco!
He is playing doubles with his coach? That would be great fun to see ;)

idolwatcher1
04-04-2006, 05:52 AM
lmao!

idolwatcher1
04-04-2006, 05:53 AM
maybe now Francisco will remember how it feels to lose? :haha:

idolwatcher1
04-04-2006, 05:56 AM
j/k

but it will be interesting for them to play a match together ;)

16681
04-04-2006, 04:25 PM
I like your Avatar idolwatcher1 ;) And lets hope Robby and his coach don't loose :)

idolwatcher1
04-04-2006, 10:51 PM
Thanks, Mae! The avatar you see is a much lower quality version of what I originally created to use :sad:....because of the upload limit, I had to compress it a lot!... :ras: That's why most of my avatars have been monochromatic looking... the compression is less obvious that way...

I would love it if Robby won doubles and singles at River Oaks... we'll have to wait and see ;)

Deboogle!.
04-05-2006, 02:21 AM
Well doubles was shortlived

Horna / Monaco defeats Ginepri / Montana
7-5, 6-3

But Horna and Monaco are actually really good players and really good on clay. and when's the last time Francisco played? :lol: Anyway Robby will play his match tomorrow (probably at night?)... he'll play Vasilis Mazarakis

superpinkone37
04-05-2006, 03:10 AM
well that sucks.

idolwatcher1
04-05-2006, 03:26 AM
I had a feeling that would happen... :p oh well... at least they didn't get clobbered, I guess.

Robby needs to improve his results during evening matches! :eek: The two singles matches he won this year (which he did in straight sets) were during the morning/noon... Ever since TMS Paris (where Robby won his morning match, and then lost his night match the next day to Gaudio), his evening matches have basically..sucked! :ras: Hope he beats Mazarakis tomorrow... I was hoping Jeff would win, actually... Mazarakis makes me think of Gremelmayr for some reason... :o

16681
04-05-2006, 05:17 AM
Well Good Luck in the Singles Match then ;) I was also wanting Jeff to win, but he didn't :sad:

Fee
04-05-2006, 07:22 AM
April 5, 2006, 12:33AM
RIVER OAKS INTERNATIONAL
Ginepri keeping up the fight
U.S. Open run raised expectations before current lull


By DALE ROBERTSON
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

Robby Ginepri finally revealed his full potential last summer, when he won a big tournament in Indianapolis and reached the semifinals of that much bigger one in New York.

Then, rather than rest on his U.S. Open laurels, which he admittedly feared might happen, Ginepri kept grinding through the fall. More successes followed, including a trip to the semis at the Masters Series Madrid event. He left no reason to doubt the trend would carry over into 2006.

But it hasn't. Why?

"It's tough to say," Ginepri said Tuesday at the River Oaks International, where he'll play his first match today and take on Pete Sampras in an exhibition on Thursday night. "I feel I'm hitting the ball the same. But the mental side is a little off, and that's such a big part of getting to the top.

"I had a couple tough matches and didn't squeak them out, so I got a little discouraged. But I'm still working hard. That's all you can do — put your head down and keep working. These guys are still the same guys I played last year and beat. I need to remember that every time I step out there on the court. I've done this before and I can still do it."

Neither his health nor his fitness is an issue. He has a new trainer, Jamie Gable, and he insists he feels "like I'm 19 again."

Fatigue? Hardly. If anything, he's too rested because he's not playing himself into tournaments, having survived his first match just twice in seven starts.


Time for a tuneup?
Ginepri beat Jurgen Melzer at the Australian Open and Kenneth Carlsen at the Nasdaq-100 Open. Otherwise, he has taken an oh-fer on the year. But you look at his scores, and you see nobody's blowing him out. The matches are littered with tiebreakers, and rarely has he lost to anybody in straight sets.

That's why can insist with a straight face, "I don't think anything's wrong. I've just got to tighten up some screws.

"I'm still (ranked) 21 in the world. If somebody tells you a year ago you're going to reach two Masters Series semifinals and a Grand Slam semifinal, but you're also going to lose (in) five first rounds, you're going to take that. There will always be a week here and week there where things don't go as well as you'd like."

Ginepri's first-round travails are a reminder of the depth of the men's tour. Everybody who has beaten the 23-year-old Georgian was ranked well below him. Of course, he got himself in that pickle by climbing as high as he did.

"You can't underestimate anybody," he said. "Respect all and fear none. It's not getting any easier, that's for sure."

Nor will it with the clay-court season starting, never mind his pending milestone encounter with Sampras in the River Oaks Stadium. He has never played the 14-time Grand Slam champion other than during Davis Cup practice sessions, and Sampras hasn't played anybody in 3 1/2 year, so Ginepri said he has no idea what to expect.


More work welcome
Ginepri rolled his eyes when told that Sampras had pronounced himself "a big underdog" during a conference call earlier in the day.

Ginepri jumped at the chance to participate in Sampras' post-retirement return to the court, even if it meant he must play five days in a row here should he reach the final. That's perfectly OK. As previously noted, he needs the work, more for his brain than for his legs.

"I've always been physically fit," Ginepri said. "Preparing myself mentally has been harder for me. It's a battle I fight every day."

Australian Mark Philippoussis, on the other hand, has long struggled on both fronts. In the early stages of another comeback, the onetime U.S. Open and Wimbledon runner-up was no match for Scoville Jenkins Tuesday. Jenkins, a recent U.S. national junior champion, won 6-1, 6-3 in 59 minutes.

dale.robertson@chron.com

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/ten/3771972.html

Pepper LaRue
04-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Great article. Thanks for posting Fee!

16681
04-05-2006, 09:00 PM
I agree Fee great article and thanks for posting it ;) And now if Robby will as he put it "tighten up some screws"
may be he will start winning again. And of course all those screws that need tightening are all in his head a fact which I think he knows :p

idolwatcher1
04-06-2006, 02:49 AM
I'm getting the feeling Robby lost to Mazarakis, but I don't know yet... I feel this way because I think Mazarakis is a clay court specialist who made the semis of a challenger on clay...

Deboogle!.
04-06-2006, 03:01 AM
But Robby is a top 20 player.... even if he's crap on clay he should be beating someone whose best result is a CHALLENGER semifinal. There is a vast vast difference between the quality of play in challengers and the tour.

You could always call the club in River Oaks to find out the score :)

idolwatcher1
04-06-2006, 04:34 AM
did I say anywhere that Robby shouldn't be able to beat Mazarakis?? :lol: Robby being a Top 20 player has nothing to do with my feelings about his possible loss today. If Robby's results this year correlated with his ranking, then he would have beaten everybody he's lost to this year... :p

16681
04-06-2006, 05:19 AM
did I say anywhere that Robby shouldn't be able to beat Mazarakis?? :lol: Robby being a Top 20 player has nothing to do with my feelings about his possible loss today. If Robby's results this year correlated with his ranking, then he would have beaten everybody he's lost to this year... :p
:lol: I have to laugh to keep from crying :crying2: Everything idolwatcher1 said is true, sad but true :sad: The official site still doesn't have a score from Robby's Match. I hope it wasn't so bad that they wouldn't post it :p

Fee
04-06-2006, 06:05 AM
There is a headline on the Houston Chron website that says Mazakiris makes short work of Ginepri. Unfortunately, the link doesn't work at the moment.

16681
04-06-2006, 06:30 AM
There is a headline on the Houston Chron website that says Mazakiris makes short work of Ginepri. Unfortunately, the link doesn't work at the moment.
Well I guess idolwatcher1 really knows Robby because she said she thought he would lose :crying2: I don't think Robby could buy a win right now :banghead: :smash: :bigcry:

Deboogle!.
04-06-2006, 06:31 AM
I don't see any such headline on the main page, the sports page, or the "other" sports page (that has a headline about Robby, but the one you posted this morning).

Well anyway, I'm going to bed so I guess I'll have to wait til tomorrow to find out what happened.... but..... all I will say is.... :tape:

Fee
04-06-2006, 06:33 AM
It's on this page, along the side.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/ten/3771972.html

16681
04-06-2006, 06:40 AM
Idolwatcher1 sure was right! Mazarakis defeated Robby 6-2 and 6-1 :ras:

bavaria100
04-06-2006, 02:35 PM
Oh my, Robby is totally hopeless on clay. :bigcry:

Deboogle!.
04-06-2006, 02:59 PM
It sounds like Robby beat himself :o like badly :o

I stand by my original statement..... which was ..... :tape:

Pepper LaRue
04-06-2006, 04:24 PM
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/ohsnap.gif

I echo Deb's sentiment of :tape: and will add a http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b217/Pepper-LaRue/thWTH.gif to that.

Wow. Just...wow.

16681
04-06-2006, 04:54 PM
You know if I hadn't seen pictures of Robby's g/f Josie I would think that idolwatcher1 was dating him. She seems to know him so well. She knew he had lost that Match before the score was even reported :aplot:

16681
04-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Oh my, Robby is totally hopeless on clay. :bigcry:
Sorry to say Robby seems totally hopeless everywhere this year :crying2:

Lee
04-06-2006, 06:15 PM
Let's say again, I'm totally speechless about this lost.

:help: :help: :help:

16681
04-06-2006, 06:19 PM
Let's say again, I'm totally speechless about this lost.

:help: :help: :help:
:lol: Lee I'm totally speechless about all the loses he has had this year. The players he is getting beat by makes no sense at all :fiery:

Deboogle!.
04-06-2006, 06:28 PM
Yeah, but this one makes the absolute least sense of all :o

superpinkone37
04-06-2006, 06:36 PM
Robby :retard:.

bavaria100
04-06-2006, 08:24 PM
Wait!!! I just had an idea. Maybe Robby lost this badly on purpose. :scratch: It could be that this is only a setup and next week he'll come out and surprise everyone with his elegant, spectacular and Rafael Nadal-like clay court game. :hearts: No one will stop Robby Ginepri from dominating this year's clay court season and lifting up the Roland Garros trophy in June. You'll see!!! ;)

idolwatcher1
04-06-2006, 11:08 PM
:haha: ...in our dreams...

I'm really not that surprised Robby lost... Mazarakis played 62 clay court matches last year... Robby played a whopping 4...and lost 3 of those... :lol:

Has anyone read the article in Tennis magazine that Brad Gilbert wrote about Robby's game? #3 had to do with Robby's ground strokes becoming too "predictable" to his opponents... giving them the edge in rallies, and allowing them to control the points and play their best...

I don't think Robby's the only one losing it mentally... the person he played doubles with this week I think is also losing it... :scared:

Pepper LaRue
04-07-2006, 12:35 AM
I read that article in Tennis Magazine. While Brad criticized certain aspects of Robby's game...he also compared him to Agassi. I think Robby needs to pry Brad from in front of the cameras and try to hire him as his new coach.

BocaBabe
04-07-2006, 03:35 AM
talk about losing it - how amazing is it that Robby beat Sampras!!!!!!!!??? Why couldn't he have won in the actual tournament? Just goes to show that the mental pressure of winning when it counts is a problem for him....not a lack of physical ability.

idolwatcher1
04-07-2006, 04:59 AM
well, Robby did 3 things tonight that he hasn't done very much of in the past... he won a tie-break, he won a match on clay, and he beat a tennis legend! :) I recorded the live stream on my computer too, yay! :bigclap: Every match he's won this year has been in straight sets... :p

I agree that the pressure to win tonight probably wasn't bearing on him as much as during regular ATP matches...

And I like Francisco, but how can he feel good about what he's doing with Robby if Robby keeps losing? He's got to crack down on what's wrong with his game (like when it's littered with errors during his matches) the way Brad Gilbert did! If Robby needs to see a sports psychologist again to get his head cleared and focused, then let's do it! The whole idea of "oh, maybe next time things will fall into place" is getting a bit old and naive... let's actually crack down on some things and improve those things! And for crying out loud, Robby's first serve percentage NEEDs to go UP! None of this below 50% crap anymore... :unsure:

idolwatcher1
04-07-2006, 06:25 AM
I'll be in Houston tomorrow until Sunday... I don't know where Robby will be during that time, but I may stop by Westside Tennis Club to see who's there... If I see Robby, I'll molest him with hugs and... well... pictures, of course! ;) And if Josie is there, I might... I dunno... shoot her? She seems so sweet though, I might give her a hug too. If I see Francisco, I'll hand him... a note... :p

C y'all later... :)

bavaria100
04-07-2006, 01:21 PM
I'll be in Houston tomorrow until Sunday... I don't know where Robby will be during that time, but I may stop by Westside Tennis Club to see who's there... If I see Robby, I'll molest him with hugs and... well... pictures, of course! ;) And if Josie is there, I might... I dunno... shoot her? She seems so sweet though, I might give her a hug too. If I see Francisco, I'll hand him... a note... :p

C y'all later... :)

Have fun! :)

16681
04-07-2006, 07:11 PM
talk about losing it - how amazing is it that Robby beat Sampras!!!!!!!!??? Why couldn't he have won in the actual tournament? Just goes to show that the mental pressure of winning when it counts is a problem for him....not a lack of physical ability.
Yes I agree. Robby's issues about tennis are mental. He certainly has the physical ability to play tennis. I hope beating Pete, even if Pete hasn't played in a tennis tournament for years, might help Robby. It certainly won't hurt him any. And since Robby got a new trainer, why not go ahead and get a new coach :shrug:

16681
04-07-2006, 07:15 PM
I'll be in Houston tomorrow until Sunday... I don't know where Robby will be during that time, but I may stop by Westside Tennis Club to see who's there... If I see Robby, I'll molest him with hugs and... well... pictures, of course! ;) And if Josie is there, I might... I dunno... shoot her? She seems so sweet though, I might give her a hug too. If I see Francisco, I'll hand him... a note... :p

C y'all later... :)
I hope you have a good time ;) And it would be great if you could run into Robby get some pictures and get his head straighten out--well that last may be asking too much :p

bavaria100
04-08-2006, 01:30 AM
The Houston Main Draw is out now and unfortunately, it doesn't look good for Robby. :scared: His first round opponent will be Albert Montanes, a spanish clay court specialist. I don't have high hopes for this match. :sad:

16681
04-08-2006, 05:08 AM
Poor Robby nothing seems to be going his way this year :sad: He is sick or his draw is bad, I just don't know what he should do :shrug: But I can't honestly say I think he will get his season turned around during clay court season. It is true that he doesn't have many points to defend, but there are so many excellent clay court players around :bigcry:

superpinkone37
04-08-2006, 05:10 AM
wow, that sucks.

16681
04-10-2006, 12:10 AM
wow, that sucks.
:lol: I think you have just described Robby's whole year of tennis so far.

Fergie
04-10-2006, 05:11 AM
Monday OOP

Gallery Furniture
Starting at 7:00 PM
Oscar HERNANDEZ (ESP) vs Tommy HAAS (GER)
followed by
Albert MONTANES (ESP) vs Robby GINEPRI (USA)

Go Robby!!! :bounce:

idolwatcher1
04-10-2006, 06:00 AM
After visiting Westside Tennis Club today, I did not see Robby anywhere... and believe me, I looked for him :p I watched some of Gilles Muller's match (he threw his racquet down after one missed point in the 2nd set and smashed it :eek: ), and I watched a few others play... I also saw James Blake's brother, Thomas, practicing there and got a few pics... As I watched Michael Russell during his match (he was like the chunkiest tennis player I've ever seen with big muscles and everything), I noticed he was wearing an Under Armour sleeveless shirt with Nike shorts, hehe!... anyways, that reminded me of how I still hadn't seen Robby yet, so I looked around again, circling the stadium to see if he was practicing on any of the courts there, but still no sign of him. :awww: I had a good time there, but it would have been a whole lot nicer if I had bumped into Robby. ;)

idolwatcher1
04-10-2006, 06:17 AM
Okay, I thought if Robby had any chance of success against Montanes, it would be if he was scheduled during the hottest part of the day... but NOOOOOO... he had to be scheduled at the last match of the day... :rolleyes:
Montanes is a clay court specialist, and Robby is going to have to play near perfect to win against him...

Maybe it's just me, but I think one of the main reasons Robby has consistently done poorly on clay, is because his movement on that surface is so much poorer than his movement on other surfaces. If he could learn to master his movement and rythym on clay courts, then I think he would have a lot more success on that surface... And, of course, if he just upped his first serve percentage level and reduced his unforced errors dramatically, that would help too... ;)

Deboogle!.
04-10-2006, 06:25 AM
Movement on clay is all about practice. Robby is a good enough mover that some good practice on clay would be all he needs. It's not like he's slow and is thus magnified even more on clay, so hopefully he practiced on it a lot and will be ready to go tomorrow:) He'll be a huge favorite in Houston against Montanes, night crowds in Houston are good, so he should get nice support, maybe that will help him. But I agree, that is a very unlucky draw. I don't much like the draw in general really. :ras:

Anyway, how is Houston? I sort of miss it there sometimes. Not often. But sometimes. Glad you had a good time but sorry you didn't see Robby :(

idolwatcher1
04-10-2006, 06:43 AM
Houston was nice (and smoggy :o )... I avoided I-10 because I heard it was closed off both ways this weekend (even though I saw people driving on it |: )... Anyways, it was nice and breezy in the shade (when i was in it), but I should have brought sunscreen with me, because it was clear and sunny out the whole time, and me and the sun don't always get along after awhile :sobbing: ... I may try to go next year during the week if I can take off during that time.

Deboogle!.
04-10-2006, 03:09 PM
LOL Yes, oh the humid houston smog. Now that I do not miss! of course now I live in LA which is supposedly just as bad, but I've never walked outside here and felt unable to breathe :lol:

Indeed, sunscreen is a must. Hope you're not burned TOO Badly.

They closed the 10?????? how did you get to Westside? Surface streets? OY VEY.

I'll have to go back to Houston some point and see my friends.

Well hopefully Robby can click into gear tonight :)

16681
04-10-2006, 05:28 PM
Sorry idolwatcher1 that you didn't get to see Robby in Houston. I really hoped you could not only see him, but talk to him, and get some pictures :bigcry:

Deboogle!.
04-11-2006, 04:09 AM
Robby lost 4-6 4-6... maybe he will go to Monte Carlo after all. though he's still in the doubles draw.

16681
04-11-2006, 04:37 AM
Robby lost 4-6 4-6... maybe he will go to Monte Carlo after all. though he's still in the doubles draw.
Just as we expected and I don't think he will last long in the doubles either :bigcry: So I guess he might as well go over to Monte Carlo and get beat there :banghead: :smash:

idolwatcher1
04-11-2006, 05:16 AM
well, at least he didn't get demolished... we're trying to see positives, right? ;)
Any stats of the match?? I miss my stats... :sobbing: Mae, I really wanted to see and talk to him too! For all I care, we just missed each other by minutes :sad: but I'll have more chances to see him in the future, hopefully! :D

rrfnpump
04-11-2006, 09:48 AM
OMG Robby :crying2:
please come and play at the ARAG

bavaria100
04-11-2006, 10:43 AM
Robby :sad: I think this will be a very long season.

Fergie
04-11-2006, 01:53 PM
Robby :sad: :hug:

Deboogle!.
04-11-2006, 04:44 PM
please come and play at the ARAGHe's supposed to be there I believe :)

16681
04-11-2006, 05:07 PM
Robby :sad: I think this will be a very long season.
bavaria100 I'm very much afraid you are right :scared:

rrfnpump
04-11-2006, 05:13 PM
He's supposed to be there I believe :)

yep, I know
he was there also 2004 and I saw him for the first time then
I also made some pics which he used then on his homepage. we exchanged like two or three emails. Robby is a great guy :D it hurts seeing him going down lately

16681
04-11-2006, 05:19 PM
yep, I know
he was there also 2004 and I saw him for the first time then
I also made some pics which he used then on his homepage. we exchanged like two or three emails. Robby is a great guy :D it hurts seeing him going down lately
:lol: Well we hope those e-mails were actually from Robby.
We have heard that his sister will answer his e-mails pretending to be Robby. Why she does this, I don't know :confused: I would be afraid to answer anyone else's e-mails even my brother :eek:

rrfnpump
04-11-2006, 05:21 PM
:lol: Well we hope those e-mails were actually from Robby.
We have heard that his sister will answer his e-mails pretending to be Robby. Why she does this, I don't know :confused: I would be afraid to answer anyone else's e-mails even my brother :eek:

well of course that might be, but I think they were from Robby ;)

16681
04-11-2006, 05:26 PM
well of course that might be, but I think they were from Robby ;)
I certainly hope so. I wouldn't want anyone answering my e-mails.

rrfnpump
04-11-2006, 05:28 PM
I certainly hope so. I wouldn't want anyone answering my e-mails.

I think I will never figure out if it was him or someone else answering me. it actually doesnt really matter. His whole showing at the ARAG 2004 was very nice and refreshing. He can play decent stuff on clay when he is on

16681
04-11-2006, 05:36 PM
I think I will never figure out if it was him or someone else answering me. it actually doesnt really matter. His whole showing at the ARAG 2004 was very nice and refreshing. He can play decent stuff on clay when he is on
He can play decent stuff on hard courts also when he is on, but the problem is this year he just can't seem to be "on" :sad:

rrfnpump
04-11-2006, 05:40 PM
He can play decent stuff on hard courts also when he is on, but the problem is this year he just can't seem to be "on" :sad:

his forhand can be a real weapon on clay. If he gets his spin working he can really do some damage with his FH. His serve and BH are not that dangerous on clay. I hope he starts to play better soon. I want him to win at the ARAG

16681
04-11-2006, 05:47 PM
his forhand can be a real weapon on clay. If he gets his spin working he can really do some damage with his FH. His serve and BH are not that dangerous on clay. I hope he starts to play better soon. I want him to win at the ARAG
I am to the point now of just wanting him to win anywhere :eek:

bavaria100
04-11-2006, 06:52 PM
I want him to win at the ARAG

We all want him to win at the ARAG, but as of now, I think he'll lose all 3 matches.

rrfnpump
04-11-2006, 07:00 PM
We all want him to win at the ARAG, but as of now, I think he'll lose all 3 matches.

ich werd schon dafür sorgen, dass er gewinnt :devil:
sei nicht so pessimistisch :awww:

16681
04-11-2006, 07:28 PM
We all want him to win at the ARAG, but as of now, I think he'll lose all 3 matches.
I agree with you again sad to say :sad: I don't know what has happened to Robby that he couldn't carry his last year's results over to this year :shrug: James did and look at him now ;)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
04-11-2006, 10:49 PM
The defeat wasn't too hard to accept.He has nothing to lose right now because he has nothing on clay,but it will be great to surprise us. :) I just don't understand why he skips MC. :eek: He can't hide from himself to play USA only.

16681
04-11-2006, 10:55 PM
The defeat wasn't too hard to accept.He has nothing to lose right now because he has nothing on clay,but it will be great to surprise us. :) I just don't understand why he skips MC. :eek: He can't hide from himself to play USA only.
I'm afraid anything to keep the U.S. men tennis players home is used. Robby promised to show up for something here in the U.S. Idolwatcher1 posted about it I can't remember what it was now. But they need the work on clay :fiery:

Lee
04-12-2006, 04:59 AM
:awww: Good luck on clay tomorrow.

idolwatcher1
04-12-2006, 06:27 AM
Yes, Robby could use a win during doubles tomorrow... he has a decent chance to win, but I dunno...

I feel like Robby must master his movement on clay to become better at it... Montanes was giving Robby drop shots, but was Robby able to move like he needed to, to hit the ball back effectively?? I'm thinking no... I'm also thinking (based on what I read of the match) that Robby probably would have done much better holding serve if his first-serve percentage was higher... his second serve on clay was probably all the ammunition Montanes needed to break Robby (which he did twice in the second set to seal his win)...

Mr. Montana, where R U? And what have you done with your former self? :scratch:

Deboogle!.
04-12-2006, 03:08 PM
What was his first serve %?

idolwatcher1
04-13-2006, 01:17 AM
^ I have no idea, but the highest Robby's first serve percentage was in a 2006 match, was 77%, which is high, but there's still room for higher... (and BTW, he won the match that he got that 77% in)

I think we have something to smile about! Robby apparently won his doubles match today! :D :yeah: I wanted him to win a match in Houston, so I guess this was something he could feel good about there! :P

Deboogle!.
04-13-2006, 01:41 AM
77% is ridiculous. Robby has a pretty good serve - if he's anywhere in the mid-60s he should be OK. I think 77% or anything even from high 60s up is a lot to ask from almost any player (except maybe.... coria)... there may technically be room for higher, but not really practically. So we have no idea how Robby served in the match, maybe that wasn't even the problem.

idolwatcher1
04-13-2006, 05:54 AM
May I remind you, the 77% was the only time this year that Robby served over 65% (of first serves) for a match, and he happened to win that match!

Out of the current Top 50 players, Robby has one of the overall 15 lowest first-serve percentages this year... And who joins him? Hanescu (who hasn't won a match this year), Gasquet, Monfils, Verdasco, & Rusedski (all of whom have lost more matches than they have won this year)... Coria also :p

Robby has typically won at least 70% of points on his first serve... so I'm pretty confident that if he got more first serves in, he'd be winning more points, and thus not getting broken as easily, or as often. There's always other factors that can contribute to a loss, but this one stands out to me... I guess because the last set he played in Miami, his first-serve % was 39! Opponents are much more confident when they continue to get weaker second serves coming their way, especially on a surface like clay...

Deboogle!.
04-13-2006, 06:30 PM
I agree that first serves are important for pretty much any player on any surface, I never said otherwise..... but we don't even know how Robby served the other night....there's simply no way to know. But this particular matchup on this particular surface and it's entirely possible Robby was just simply outplayed.

idolwatcher1
04-13-2006, 11:59 PM
deb, why are you making this into an argument? :lol: ...it doesn't matter to me if my speculations are entirely correct or not :p I often just vent concerns of mine that are based on general statistics, where I feel Robby can improve his game... even if they don't completely apply to a particular match. Like I said, there's always multiple factors that can contribute to a loss... Nowhere did I say that first-serve percentage alone is the reason Robby lost his match against Montanes, only that I suspect it played one... :)

Deboogle!.
04-14-2006, 12:16 AM
I'm not arguing, I'm just voicing my concern that you're trying to analyze the loss without having any details about it, except that several reports, including stuff Robby himself said, suggested that Montanes played really well. If he served poorly, then by all means get on his back about it, but there's just no way to know yet so it doesn't seem fair to him - maybe he served ok. So I was just presenting that logic. And anyway, 1st serve % is probably least relevant on clay, even if he were only serving say, in the 50s, he doesn't rely on his serve so much that it should be a large factor into him losing a match. My guess is that he probably played ok, but not great, and he was up against a guy who has had some seriously good scalps on clay in his career, regardless of the rankings. I understand the impulse to analyze a loss, I do it all the time but it's kind of hard to do logically when there are zero stats available :shrug:

idolwatcher1
04-14-2006, 03:15 AM
why are you voicing your concern? :haha: I don't need details of a match in order to speculate about it... And you think I'm not being "fair" to Robby by merely speculating?? I don't think Robby or anyone should be concerned about my speculations :lol: ... because there's really nothing weighing on them... It's not like I'm getting mad at Robby over something that may not have even happened :lol: ...I'm simply speculating on what may have happened, based on the past, well aware that I could be wrong... :)

idolwatcher1
04-14-2006, 05:03 AM
grrrr.... The dark cloud loves Robby, and it proceeded to move back over his head :( ... If Robby doesn't get sick after winning a match, it might as well be his doubles partner, right? :rain:

16681
04-16-2006, 05:43 AM
grrrr.... The dark cloud loves Robby, and it proceeded to move back over his head :( ... If Robby doesn't get sick after winning a match, it might as well be his doubles partner, right? :rain:
Maybe I really am a jinx :sad: Robby has had a poor year and now his doubles partner gets sick just as they were doing some winning. And Tommy hurts his rt. wrist and has to retire from the Semi-Final he was playing in Houston :tears: I'm actually almost thinking of having a blank signature :lol: Maybe that would help some players, but I must say I doubt it :p It seems like there are just a lot of dark clouds going around :(