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Galaxystorm is famous..made Bodo's Blog

artlinkletter
02-24-2006, 05:00 AM
http://www.tennis.com/Tennis_World_Blog/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=805
He is referring to this link http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=3111729&postcount=548

Just about a week ago, in a meeting with Tennis staffers, new ATP President Etienne de Villiers responded to a question about the credibility the tour lost when so many of the top men skipped the “official” ATP Championships (Shanghai) with a fairly light rejoinder: “Well, I would hope that next year Lleyton Hewitt isn’t expecting his first child again, that Andre Agassi will realize he’s not meant to be a racquetball player, and that Rafael Nadal will have avoided the kind of injury he suffered this year. . .”

Next week, I’ll be posting a more thorough report on the state of the game following our first meeting with de Villiers, but on the issue above I’m not exactly convinced that it was merely a case of the stars being out of alignment. An alert TW reader sent me this link in which there’s an extremely interesting discussion about Nadal having pulled out of Rotterdam.

Keep in mind that this thread is especially revealing because it takes place at the official RN Kool-Aid drinkers fan site, whose webmistress, Susan Seemiller, put on a full court press to convince us of the severity of the foot injury that caused Nadal to miss the Australian Open. At least one poster at the fan site picked up this curious comment posted by at the Men's Tennis Forum by someone (Galaxystorm???) who purports to have serious knowledge of Rafael’s situation, plans and short-term strategy.

A caveat is in order here: this is the internet; we all know people can get up to all kinds of mischief, so I wouldn’t take anything I read on a message board to the bank. But even apart from that comment, it’s fascinating to read what the Kool-Aid drinkers say and think about the withdrawal when they're just talking amongst themselves.

In some ways, Nadal is the ideal guy to take the growing “I’ll do what I want, when I want” movement to the next level. He's a great clay-court player who can stay within his athletic and cultural comfort zone without leaving Europe, where people often put a higher premium on quality of life than success. At that next level - and I'm not sure we're there yet - players will simply cast aside all pretense of accepting the implicit obligations that became part and parcel of a tennis star’s life in the Open era.

Those obligations include taking part in a requisite number of tournaments and, more importantly, having a strong sense of professionalism and ethics – the latter being the only protection fans have against players allowing tournaments to use their name to sell tickets when, in reality, they have no intention of playing in the event.

Curiously, I heard just the other day that a top name player accepted the equivalent of a “promotional” fee for allowing a Tournament Director to use his image and alleged entry into an event to fatten the coffers, even though both parties implicitly understood that the guy wasn’t going to show up. It was rumor. Let me repeat. It was rumor. But it would hardly surprise me if it turned out to be true, given where the game appears to be heading.

And before you get all worked up about this being just an excuse to slam Nadal, ponder recent history. The drift has been as clear as it has been gradual: the pioneers of the Open era built a tour, and fell to their knees each night, thankful for every new tournament opportunity that came their way. Imagine that! Once the vaults filled with riches and the calendar filled up, stars began to want to play less, for greater compensation, and more on their own terms. Each generation pushes the envelope that much further. If Nadal and Bjorn Borg were to change places in time, this post would be about Borg.

The WTA has an even more pressing, glaring problem than than the ATP, as we saw last year. The Williams sisters are MIA from the tour. Many top players, starting with Justine Henin-Hardenne, seemed to play only at those times when they chose. Oh, I know there were injuries involved, and some of them undoubtedly were real, and serious. But you have to be really naïve to deny that the present commitment and injury rules simultaneously force players to commit to events and give them an easy way to bag those committments.

You know, I accept the fact that you can lead a tennis player to a tournament, but you can’t make him play. Tennis players should not be coerced into playing any more than I should be coerced into writing more stories than I’d like to post. It’s the hypocrisy and the incessant screwing of the ticket-buying public that I despise – that, and the increasing role that money plays in this tableau.

I know why, but I fail to understand why, players don’t just block out the Grand Slam and Davis Cup/Fed Cup weeks, fill in the other weeks they are willing to play, and honor those commitments.

P.S. - I had to edit this item after posting because in the original I attributed the MTF quote on Nadal to the wrong poster.

nobama
02-24-2006, 06:08 AM
Does Bodo have anything good to say about the state of tennis these days?

NicoFan
02-24-2006, 01:09 PM
Galaxystorm...you're famous!!!!! :worship: :lol:

Nathaliia
02-24-2006, 01:22 PM
wow... Galaxystorm :worship: :yeah:

yomike
02-24-2006, 01:24 PM
A celebrity in our forums.:)

artlinkletter
02-24-2006, 01:50 PM
Does Bodo have anything good to say about the state of tennis these days?
Yeah, he's especially hard on players like Kim and Hewitt. And his facts often are incorrect, or come from shady resources.

star
02-24-2006, 02:03 PM
Obviously they come from shady resources if Bodo is trolling this board for information. :lol:

kundalini
02-24-2006, 02:32 PM
Galaxystorm is the most reliable source on Nadal anywhere - hardly your average MTF poster.

Experimentee
02-24-2006, 02:40 PM
Galaxystorm :yeah:

lau
02-24-2006, 02:44 PM
Galaxystorm is the most reliable source on Nadal anywhere - hardly your average MTF poster.

That doesn´t make less shameful the fact that a pro journalist wrote something (I don´t care if it´s "only" a blog) having public Internet board members he didn`t even know, as source. ;)

Lopaka
02-24-2006, 03:35 PM
:yeah: :yeah: Galaxystorm and the Rafael Nadal's Kool-aid stand.

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 03:43 PM
He's a great clay-court player who can stay within his athletic and cultural comfort zone without leaving Europe, where people often put a higher premium on quality of life than success.

Eh? How the hell does a tennis journalist make such a sweeping, ludicrous generalisation of an entire continent? What a cretin.

And forgive me for my ignorance here, but after having trawled through Bodo's blog archive, what or who are these "Kool-Aid drinkers" to whom he keeps referring? :confused:

NYCtennisfan
02-24-2006, 03:58 PM
And forgive me for my ignorance here, but after having trawled through Bodo's blog archive, what or who are these "Kool-Aid drinkers" to whom he keeps referring?

Hehehehehe. I think 90% of the posters here at MTF could be called Kool-aid drinking posters after their favorites lose.

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 03:59 PM
Lost in cultural translation, NYC?

alfonsojose
02-24-2006, 04:07 PM
Bodo knows that i'm gay :scared: :bolt:

NicoFan
02-24-2006, 04:08 PM
And forgive me for my ignorance here, but after having trawled through Bodo's blog archive, what or who are these "Kool-Aid drinkers" to whom he keeps referring? :confused:

I was wondering that myself and I'm an American.

I could be wrong - am a lot of times :lol: - but I think that he's suggesting that the posters here are very young. Not adults.

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 04:12 PM
Interesting. Well, he's wrong there too. But really, you can't blame him for thinking so when you look at the content of most of the threads in GM.

Lopaka
02-24-2006, 04:13 PM
Eh? How the hell does a tennis journalist make such a sweeping, ludicrous generalisation of an entire continent? What a cretin.

And forgive me for my ignorance here, but after having trawled through Bodo's blog archive, what or who are these "Kool-Aid drinkers" to whom he keeps referring? :confused:

In this case our "tennis journalist" was refering to a page copied from the vamosrafael's temporary message board. I guess he thought the posts somehow made a statement about Nadal fans. To bad Peter did not quote Galaxystorm's really in depth discussion of withdrawals. Of course it was much better than the tripe and innuendo Peter has recently written about Rafa in his blog. Seems to me he is saying Spanish "dirt ballers" are to held to a different standard of conduct than other tennis players when it comes to withdrawals.

MTF:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=34482&page=38&pp=15

(fyi the new VR home page is online)

Clara Bow
02-24-2006, 06:16 PM
Eh? How the hell does a tennis journalist make such a sweeping, ludicrous generalisation of an entire continent? What a cretin.

And forgive me for my ignorance here, but after having trawled through Bodo's blog archive, what or who are these "Kool-Aid drinkers" to whom he keeps referring? :confused:


"Kool-Aid drinkers" is a term sometimes used to imply people how are rabid or cultish. The term comes from the Jonestown Massacre of the 1978, when People's Temple cult leader Jim Jones ordered his followers to drink poisoned Kool-Aid in a mass suicide. More than 900 people died, including more than 200 children. Jones shot himself in the head.

So I think Peter Bodo is using it as a pejorative term to imply that vr.com is full of rabid fans. And as one how has visited that site, I can tell you that there is a nice balance of fans there- no worse than on other player sites.

Bodo has frankly acted like he has his drawers in a twist for the past several years.

edited because Kool-Aid is not Kook-Aid. I don't know what Kook-Aid is, although it sounds interesting.

NicoFan
02-24-2006, 06:19 PM
"Kook-Aid drinkers" is a term sometimes used to imply people how are rabid or cultish. The term comes from the Jonestown Massacre of the 1978, when People's Temple cult leader Jim Jones ordered his followers to drink poisoned Kool-Aid in a mass suicide. More than 900 people died, including more than 200 children. Jones shot himself in the head.

So I think Peter Bodo is using it as a pejorative term to imply that vr.com is full of rabid fans. And as one how has visited that site, I can tell you that there is a nice balance of fans there- no worse than on other player sites.

Bodo has frankly acted like he has his drawers in a twist for the past several years.

Thanks Clara Bow!

I stand corrected. :)

I never heard that before ever. You learn something new everyday. ;)

nobama
02-24-2006, 06:34 PM
I've heard the term Kool-Aid used in politics when someone believes anything that comes out of a politicians mouth just because they're a fan of the politician or share their political affiliation.

ExpectedWinner
02-24-2006, 07:01 PM
Galaxystorm is the most reliable source on Nadal anywhere - hardly your average MTF poster.


Hm .. yeah, rarher an average internet troll. Sorry. A person who is really close to a "royal body"(coaching/medical/PR team, hitting partners, family members, friends,etc) will never post such things on an obscure, public board out of recpect to a player.

NYCtennisfan
02-24-2006, 10:06 PM
"Kool-Aid drinkers" is a term sometimes used to imply people how are rabid or cultish. The term comes from the Jonestown Massacre of the 1978, when People's Temple cult leader Jim Jones ordered his followers to drink poisoned Kool-Aid in a mass suicide. More than 900 people died, including more than 200 children. Jones shot himself in the head.

I was assuming everyone knew this so I was adding on to good old Bodo's comments. Now...I gotta go make some Kool-Aid. :)

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 10:26 PM
Assumptions are dangerous. I must admit I'd never even heard of the Jonestown Massacre, or if I had done I had long since forgotten about it.... isn't Jim Jones the nom de plume of a certain poster on this board?

NYCtennisfan
02-25-2006, 02:34 AM
Assumptions are dangerous.

LOL! It's a messageboard...

star
02-25-2006, 06:08 PM
Assumptions are dangerous. I must admit I'd never even heard of the Jonestown Massacre, or if I had done I had long since forgotten about it.... isn't Jim Jones the nom de plume of a certain poster on this board?

Yup.

I'm surprised you've never heard of Jim Jones, but sometimes I forget how young you are. :p

http://www.religioustolerance.org/dc_jones.htm

star
02-25-2006, 06:16 PM
Jungle reclaimed Jonestown years ago. But even now I can see them together in the open-air pavilion there - Rep. Leo Ryan (D-San Mateo) on stage, microphone in hand, addressing a rainbow of Peoples Temple members from the heartland, San Francisco and Los Angeles. Taking their cues from the Rev. Jim Jones, they applauded Ryan on the opening night of his mission to find whether the settlement was the brutal work camp described by escapees or the utopia extolled by supporters.

Within 24 hours, virtually all would be dead. Ryan was shot to death on a nearby airstrip, along with a church defector and three of my fellow newsmen. Then the temple members were killed at the pavilion in a ritual of mass suicide and murder. The final toll: 913.

"We need to remember to remember," Norwood said. "If you can say 1,000 people died and it can easily fall from your lips, you are remembering to forget."

-- Tim Reiterman

amierin
02-25-2006, 07:08 PM
He's a great clay-court player who can stay within his athletic and cultural comfort zone without leaving Europe, where people often put a higher premium on quality of life than success.

WTF???

And we Nadal fans are mindless Kool-Aid drinking bots huh? What-evah!! :drink:

Yes the tennis pioneers worked hard to set up a tour. So the players are supposed to play themselves into exhaustion(as Rafa did last year) and play with abdominal tears (as Venus did a couple of years ago during Wimby) to satisfy the tour directors and tennis organizations of each country now?

And for all you Europeans who play sports (and are presently kicking azz in the Olympics) , get on with your quality of life issues. What do you know about competition and success in the world of sports? World Cup Shmearl Cup. It's all about quality of life for you guys according to Bodo. Loser.


ETA: It's too bad he didn't really quote GalaxyStorms post on withdrawals. He wouldn't have written such utter bull.

Geniey2g
02-25-2006, 07:32 PM
Lost in cultural translation, NYC?
I believe Ol' Pete's referring to the insane, hormone-ravaged girls (yes, girls) who post at Rafa's official fan site. (vamosrafael.com)