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After 2 hours and 27 minutes, Murray is new British no. 1

Sjengster
02-23-2006, 10:46 PM
Defeating Rik de Voest 7-6, 3-6, 7-5 after leading 4-0 in the first set and 1-0 with a break in the second. Not exactly great stuff, but a victory nonetheless!

stebs
02-23-2006, 10:47 PM
He's battling through this tournament but he'll have to play better than that against Soderling or he'll be smashed to bits.

Sjengster
02-23-2006, 10:48 PM
Soderling again, eh? That man has been a good luck charm for him twice in indoor events now, two wins and he's been in the final both times. I hope his luck can hold out for three successive wins, because Soderling is certainly in impressive form. Just think, he's taken out last year's runner-up and winner in the first two rounds.

Trivial
02-23-2006, 10:49 PM
Suppose this is the end of an era for British tennis then :sad: but the start of a new one which will hopefully bring better results than the previous! :)

Thank You Tim, Welcome Andy! :wavey:

stebs
02-23-2006, 10:51 PM
Suppose this is the end of an era for British tennis then :sad: but the start of a new one which will hopefully bring better results than the previous! :)

Thank You Tim, Welcome Andy! :wavey:

The shift really happened when Murray beat Henman. Ranking points seperated the two for a while but Murray has been the better player for a while now.

Horatio Caine
02-23-2006, 10:51 PM
Well done Andy! The rematch rule will heavily favour Soderling for a win this time :bigcry:

Fisico
02-23-2006, 10:57 PM
Congratulations Andy!!
i wonder how long he can hold on to the number 1 spot

revolution
02-23-2006, 10:58 PM
Andy :o

At least he did it.

But unfortunately I think Soderling will end his title bid tomorrow evening.

federated
02-23-2006, 11:01 PM
well done andy! such a poignant passing of the torch, especially after andy's recent kind words re tim :sobbing:

Nathaliia
02-23-2006, 11:26 PM
Well, I guess this is what the UK really wanted. Now they have the new hero, and hopefully Henman, by the shade of no flashlights, peacefully will win Wimbledon.

For the past era, I especially wanted to thank Tim for Roland Garros, where he was a buddy of three Argentinians in semis. I am a lover of all dumb / pathetic / hilarious situations at life.

Sjengster
02-23-2006, 11:34 PM
I wouldn't say his RG showing was any of those three - and that includes the last option, considering that he came through a weak section of the draw and still had to battle hard. And he had previously beaten Chela on clay, so that result wasn't a surprise, but the impressive scoreline certainly was. I doubt you'll ever see Hewitt or Roddick, or for that matter Federer, demolishing Chela 2, 4 and 4 in the quarters of RG.

Neely
02-23-2006, 11:39 PM
Looks like an average job, but congrats for the win and new British #1 ranking, Murray! :yeah: :bounce:

Nathaliia
02-23-2006, 11:49 PM
Oh, the previous defeating Chela was in Monte Carlo 2002 when he was Mister No-one, and at the time of the match they were tied 2-2... But no matter, indeed he was lucky with the draw, and Chela performed very poorly (old good times when I had access to a TV set) in that match against Henman. It was also fun to watch Henman - Llodra on clay, long beautiful match (me supporting Llodra).
But I actually don't say about people who he defeated then, he could have even lost to this Llodra, but the fact that "proud son of England" was so close to the top of French (his fight with Coria was fascinating by the way).

Just to pure amusement, let's follow Tim's losses in French:
1996 - 1st round, Kris Goossens (BEL) - journeyman, often guest of events in Poland
1997 - 1st round, Olivier Delaitre (FRA)
1998 - 1st round, Sargis Sargsian (ARM)
1999 - 3rd round, Alberto Berasatequi :rocker2:
2000 - 3rd round, Fernando Vicente (still was able to defeat Vince Spadea)
2001 - 3rd round, Guillermo Canas (Canas was his curse)
2002 - 2nd round, Galo Blanco
2003 - 3rd round, Juan Carlos Ferrero (ok... respect for this one... and for defeating Voltchkov and T. Martin - could have felt like at home)
2004 (...)
2005 - 2nd round, Luis Horna (but still, def. Brzezicki)

belco
02-24-2006, 12:03 AM
good luck Andy

Horatio Caine
02-24-2006, 12:07 AM
Well done Andy! I wonder whether this was the reason for his poor performance today...although I'm not sure he would have known of Henman's defeat before his match :shrug:

Conita
02-24-2006, 12:09 AM
Go ANDYY
GO ANDYY
GO ANDY!!

YAY!!
xD

ps: tim love u 2 mate!! :P

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 12:11 AM
Oh, the previous defeating Chela was in Monte Carlo 2002 when he was Mister No-one, and at the time of the match they were tied 2-2... But no matter, indeed he was lucky with the draw, and Chela performed very poorly (old good times when I had access to a TV set) in that match against Henman. It was also fun to watch Henman - Llodra on clay, long beautiful match (me supporting Llodra).
But I actually don't say about people who he defeated then, he could have even lost to this Llodra, but the fact that "proud son of England" was so close to the top of French (his fight with Coria was fascinating by the way).

Just to pure amusement, let's follow Tim's losses in French:
1996 - 1st round, Kris Goossens (BEL) - journeyman, often guest of events in Poland
1997 - 1st round, Olivier Delaitre (FRA)
1998 - 1st round, Sargis Sargsian (ARM)
1999 - 3rd round, Alberto Berasatequi :rocker2:
2000 - 3rd round, Fernando Vicente (still was able to defeat Vince Spadea)
2001 - 3rd round, Guillermo Canas (Canas was his curse)
2002 - 2nd round, Galo Blanco
2003 - 3rd round, Juan Carlos Ferrero (ok... respect for this one... and for defeating Voltchkov and T. Martin - could have felt like at home)
2004 (...)
2005 - 2nd round, Luis Horna (but still, def. Brzezicki)

Chela was having a very good season though with a final in Sydney and quarters in Miami, and I remember that before that meeting with Henman he double-breadsticked both his first two opponents, and that included the finalist from the previous year, Arazi.

It was Malisse in 2002, not Blanco he lost to - a slightly more respectable defeat there. :p

96 and 97 were write-offs because he was far too inexperienced on the stuff, 98 was a retirement, and then came the three consecutive five-set defeats from 99 to 01. All very good players, even including Pornstar Vicente, but the way he lost (like, from two sets and 3-1 up against Berasategui) was not encouraging. Ironic that he made a comeback from two sets down twice in 2004 en route to the semis.

Neely
02-24-2006, 12:24 AM
Defeating Rik de Voest 7-6, 3-6, 7-5 after leading 4-0 in the first set and 1-0 with a break in the second. Not exactly great stuff, but a victory nonetheless!
well, the Memphis website disagrees with you here ;) it says that it was very great stuff :lol:

"Murray Produces Another Magical Effort"
"Magical Murray Prevails in Second Round"


simply pure maaaagic, this three set win over de Voest :rolls: :yeah:


(seriously, anybody saw the match? was it great or -how I think- is "magic" a bit exaggerated for this win? :confused: )

gusman890
02-24-2006, 12:44 AM
yeahhh he was ahead and he should have won it alot faster without loosing a set. :-P

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 12:44 AM
I've always been an ardent admirer of the ATP's alliterative acumen, but this time they've gone too far. Fantastic Federer, Awesome Agassi, Magical Murray.... magical? They could at least have tried to come up with something that fits his game a little better.

OddJob
02-24-2006, 01:31 AM
Andy being the British #1 was just a matter of time. Congrats to Andy! :bigclap:

NYCtennisfan
02-24-2006, 01:32 AM
or for that matter Federer, demolishing Chela 2, 4 and 4 in the quarters of RG.


I like Chela, but I could easily see Federer doing this.

Back to the topic at hand, congrats to Murray. He has won his last two matches using a heavy dose of mental toughness and guts. I think Soderling ends the run, but what a good run it has been.

Sjengster
02-24-2006, 01:41 AM
Ah, but at RG, I doubt it would be that comfortable. He still hasn't played Chela on clay, I note - could be an awkward one, although the big man isn't a great returner and has a rather rigid and attackable backhand.

BaselineSmash
02-24-2006, 07:37 AM
It's a relief that we now have a British number one that's actually posting some really good results on a regular basis. Unlike Henman, whose retirement at the end of 2006 seems inevitable at the moment.

Soderling is in good form and will likely beat Murray, whose form is clearly under-par this week. I think it's for the best, and will give Murray more time to rest up for Indian Wells. Unless he has another tournament lined up in the interim. Anyone?

Nathaliia
02-24-2006, 09:47 AM
I've always been an ardent admirer of the ATP's alliterative acumen, but this time they've gone too far. Fantastic Federer, Awesome Agassi, Magical Murray.... magical? They could at least have tried to come up with something that fits his game a little better.
Fighting Nature Murray... ;) No, magic definitely doesn't suit here. I would call Ollie Rochus a Magician, because despite of his height (he's not much taller than me, actually) he is making wonderful job in ATP and all the best luck to him, except today's rematch with Nieminen.

Headlines of press or ATP make me sick.

MariaV
02-24-2006, 09:56 AM
I've always been an ardent admirer of the ATP's alliterative acumen, but this time they've gone too far. Fantastic Federer, Awesome Agassi, Magical Murray....
I need Superb Safin headlines soon! ;) :lol: Or does anyone have better ideas? :scratch:

ClaycourtaZzZz.
02-24-2006, 03:45 PM
Bullshit. Should've been a double bagel. He can be happy if he doesn't lose 0 and 0 Vs. Söderling.

keep_er_lit!
02-24-2006, 03:53 PM
Bullshit. Should've been a double bagel. He can be happy if he doesn't lose 0 and 0 Vs. Söderling.

I agree that Andy should have won the match more comfortably, but your being a bit harsh on both players there - I didn't see the match, but I definately got the impression that RDV played very well for most of the second and third sets. He made it hard, and served well, particuarly on his 2nd serve.

R.Federer
02-24-2006, 03:57 PM
Very impressive!
And it seems that he also has an effect on other young UK players like Parmar, who is coming back to his better form from prevous time

stebs
02-24-2006, 06:15 PM
other young UK players like Parmar

He is between 26 and 28 years old. I wouldn't say that's young

keep_er_lit!
02-24-2006, 06:16 PM
28 next month to be exact.