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serena85
02-07-2007, 09:28 PM
Is Tommy on #10 of the rank? That's so BAD! :sad::crying2:
Hope he plays well and get lot of victories now for get some points


I hope so:sad: :sad:

Denise
02-08-2007, 03:54 AM
I hope so:sad: :sad:

For sure :crying2:
I want a rank better than the number 10, c'mon...I want a hightest one! :o

16681
02-08-2007, 09:45 PM
Well as I said Tommy had better play better than he did at Delray. I don't know what happened to him since he had just done so well at the AO :confused:

Denise
02-10-2007, 12:29 AM
Well as I said Tommy had better play better than he did at Delray. I don't know what happened to him since he had just done so well at the AO :confused:

He is good...that's why he played the semis at AO and I think he is playing DC well! but he needs a better place at the rank :rolleyes:

16681
02-11-2007, 09:25 AM
He is good...that's why he played the semis at AO and I think he is playing DC well! but he needs a better place at the rank :rolleyes:
Well the only way to a higher ranking is winning Matches and even better Tournaments :)

Denise
02-15-2007, 06:30 PM
Well the only way to a higher ranking is winning Matches and even better Tournaments :)

Yeah, I undestand and I totally agree! specially with the "tournaments". I rather "tournies" than just winning some matches ;)

16681
04-09-2007, 07:14 AM
Well Tommy is at #10 right now so he needs to start playing better to stay in the Top Ten :yeah:

16681
04-16-2007, 07:19 AM
So much for the Top Ten :sad: As of today 4/16/07 Tommy is now #11:crying2: The young guns are really moving up in the Rankings :ras:

leng jai
05-16-2007, 01:17 PM
Haas is back in the top 10

16681
05-17-2007, 07:35 PM
Haas is back in the top 10
No Tommy is still #11 in the ATP Ranking. I think you are thinking of the ATP Race. They are two different rankings.
The ATP Ranking is like a history of how well the player has done over time. The ATP Race is how well they have played this year :)

supertommyhaas
05-17-2007, 11:21 PM
No Tommy is still #11 in the ATP Ranking. I think you are thinking of the ATP Race. They are two different rankings.
The ATP Ranking is like a history of how well the player has done over time. The ATP Race is how well they have played this year :)

Tommy will be back in the top 10 on monday!:D Murray failed to defend hip Hamburg points which will allow Tommy to rise in the rankings without even playing.lol. Hopefully Tommy can defend his 3rd rd points at RG and then have a good run at Wimbledon to consoloidate a place in the top 10!

leng jai
05-18-2007, 12:51 AM
No Tommy is still #11 in the ATP Ranking. I think you are thinking of the ATP Race. They are two different rankings.
The ATP Ranking is like a history of how well the player has done over time. The ATP Race is how well they have played this year :)

Check the ranking thread in GM honey.

16681
05-24-2007, 05:18 AM
Check the ranking thread in GM honey.
I checked the rankings at the ATP site. So Tommy moved up after I checked it there. But since he won't be at RG he won't defend his points there :sad:

16681
07-09-2007, 07:01 AM
Of course we all knew this would happen with all of Tommy's recent health problems, but it is still sad :crying2: As of 7/09/07 the ATP Site shows Tommy's ranking is #11 which is down one position :sad: And what is worse is this is just the beginning of the drop :bigcry:

<Eve>
07-09-2007, 08:00 AM
:bigcry: booo :sad:

TommyB.
07-09-2007, 10:36 AM
Don't worry, #11 is still a good ranking. :)

Well he has some points to defend now, especially LA, QF New York and SF Paris.

martine2
07-09-2007, 06:18 PM
Too bad :( , but most important right now is that he recovers completely...and then the ranking will follow!

<Eve>
07-10-2007, 10:29 AM
Too bad :( , but most important right now is that he recovers completely...and then the ranking will follow!
exactly :D

Leen.
07-26-2007, 01:00 PM
tommy is no. 9!! :banana:
top 10 again!

TommyB.
07-26-2007, 03:57 PM
Yes, but only this week. He'll lose his LA points and drop out of the top 10. :sad:

16681
07-28-2007, 06:24 AM
Yes, but only this week. He'll lose his LA points and drop out of the top 10. :sad:
And if he can't start playing and winning he will just keep dropping :bigcry:

martine2
07-28-2007, 10:23 AM
And if he can't start playing and winning he will just keep dropping :bigcry:

:hug: :hug: He'll be back, don't worry :)

TommyB.
07-30-2007, 10:42 AM
Tommy is #12 (-3) now, he lost his LA points last week.

Sean.J.S.
07-31-2007, 12:52 PM
Good news is, that Tommy didn't play Washington last year, so he has an opportunity to gain points there, and he didn't do too great in the AMS events in Toronto and Cincinatti in 2006, so there is another opportunity to gain points and return to the Top 10. :)

TommyB.
08-13-2007, 11:01 AM
# 9 (+3)...Tommy is back in the top 10. :)

16681
10-15-2007, 04:20 AM
Well Tommy is now #10 in the Rankings, but what is better is the fact that he is now #8 in the Race :woohoo: :banana: :dance: :yippee:

16681
10-23-2007, 09:02 PM
As of 10/22/07 the ATP Site shows Tommy still ranked #10 and 8th in the race, but we all know that is going to change :sad:

Tommy fan
10-24-2007, 02:17 PM
As of 10/22/07 the ATP Site shows Tommy still ranked #10 and 8th in the race, but we all know that is going to change :sad:

:hug:
When he'll be healthy.... :)

16681
10-24-2007, 06:33 PM
:hug:
When he'll be healthy.... :)
I love your positive thought, but I was thinking about the drop that will occur since he is sick and isn't playing.

Tommy fan
10-24-2007, 07:49 PM
I love your positive thought, but I was thinking about the drop that will occur since he is sick and isn't playing.

I know, because of that I write that when he'd be helthy again he'd climb back (hopefully)..
I hope his ranking won't drops badly...
I'm not that positie thinker usually, but whatever I can do to make myself (And you) fell happier about it..
(And if you really worried, then watch on youtube the highlights from his match against Gonzalez..:) )

16681
10-25-2007, 08:10 AM
I know, because of that I write that when he'd be helthy again he'd climb back (hopefully)..
I hope his ranking won't drops badly...
I'm not that positie thinker usually, but whatever I can do to make myself (And you) fell happier about it..
(And if you really worried, then watch on youtube the highlights from his match against Gonzalez..:) )
It's very nice of you to try to make everyone feel better about Tommy's situation :) Thanks :D

Tommy fan
10-25-2007, 03:13 PM
It's very nice of you to try to make everyone feel better about Tommy's situation :) Thanks :D

You welcome :) :wavey:
And one thing, do you know if he will be healthy for Paris?

16681
10-25-2007, 11:19 PM
You welcome :) :wavey:
And one thing, do you know if he will be healthy for Paris?
Believe me there are two things we have a hard time knowing with Tommy 1) if he will be healthy and 2) who his current girlfriend is :rolleyes:

Tommy fan
10-26-2007, 05:29 PM
Believe me there are two things we have a hard time knowing with Tommy 1) if he will be healthy and 2) who his current girlfriend is :rolleyes:

Tottaly :D
But isn't he date that model/acteres?[Spelling?] (Or she's just really skinny..And for some reason I thought dhe was a model or an actres)

16681
10-27-2007, 09:30 PM
Tottaly :D
But isn't he date that model/acteres?[Spelling?] (Or she's just really skinny..And for some reason I thought dhe was a model or an actres)
At the moment (at least as far as I know) he is still dating Sara Foster who is a model/actress. But he could show up with someone else in Paris, if he plays :rolleyes: I saw a bio on Sara Foster that said she and Tommy were married :lol: I sent in a correction to the site saying they were just dating. By the time the site does a check on my correction they might not even be dating :rolls:

Tommy fan
10-28-2007, 03:23 PM
At the moment (at least as far as I know) he is still dating Sara Foster who is a model/actress. But he could show up with someone else in Paris, if he plays :rolleyes: I saw a bio on Sara Foster that said she and Tommy were married :lol: I sent in a correction to the site saying they were just dating. By the time the site does a check on my correction they might not even be dating :rolls:

:lol: :lol:
Hopefully they will.. :) At least for this weeks so he won't go down in Paris..

Tommy fan
10-28-2007, 03:28 PM
At the moment (at least as far as I know) he is still dating Sara Foster who is a model/actress. But he could show up with someone else in Paris, if he plays :rolleyes: I saw a bio on Sara Foster that said she and Tommy were married :lol: I sent in a correction to the site saying they were just dating. By the time the site does a check on my correction they might not even be dating :rolls:

:lol: :lol:
Hopefully they will.. :) At least for this weeks so he won't go down in Paris..

Leen.
10-28-2007, 06:02 PM
tommy has still a chance to qualify for shanghai, no?

Tommy fan
10-28-2007, 09:49 PM
tommy has still a chance to qualify for shanghai, no?

Very little..
He needs to do very well in Madrid and do better results than Murray,Blake, Robredo, Gasquet and Berdych..
He leads Robredo by a single point..

Good luck Tommy!!!!

leng jai
10-29-2007, 06:58 AM
His chances are pretty decent. He played well in Paris last year and those other clowns could easily lose early.

16681
10-29-2007, 08:00 AM
His chances are pretty decent. He played well in Paris last year and those other clowns could easily lose early.
I don't know those "clowns" you mentioned read like some pretty good tennis players to me :tape:

Tommy fan
10-29-2007, 03:21 PM
Murray can make good run(For him..) in Paris, and Gasquet too.

The others ofcourse can do well too, but I mention Gasquet and Murray since I think they can go pretty far..I hope Tommy can Make good run too.

16681
10-30-2007, 05:42 AM
I hope so too :D He has to do well or I don't think he will remain in the race :sad:

16681
11-02-2007, 01:24 AM
Bye Bye Race :bigcry:

16681
11-05-2007, 07:58 PM
Well as of 11/05/07 according to the ATP Site Tommy's Ranking is #13 which is down 3 positions :sad: So not only did he drop out of the Race he dropped out of the Top Ten :bigcry:

Tommy fan
11-06-2007, 03:59 PM
:bigcry:
I think he sould play a tourniment before AO next year so his seeding will be higher

Denise
11-07-2007, 05:31 PM
Bye bye top 10
Bye bye bye Shanghai :crying2::sad:
Is he 13# now? That's suckssssss! he had good chances to go to Shanghai and it was so closeeeee, I can't believe he missed it !!! It' so unfair. Good luck next year baby! :drool:

Denise
11-07-2007, 06:33 PM
At the moment (at least as far as I know) he is still dating Sara Foster who is a model/actress. But he could show up with someone else in Paris, if he plays :rolleyes: I saw a bio on Sara Foster that said she and Tommy were married :lol: I sent in a correction to the site saying they were just dating. By the time the site does a check on my correction they might not even be dating :rolls:

Married?? :haha: That's so stupid...it's a bio of Sara Foster and they dunno about her life, so ridiculous
Hope they won't be datting then :rolls:
ps. I didn't see Sara at the banches in the Masters Series of Paris :banana:

16681
11-19-2007, 06:56 AM
Well as of today 11/19/07 The ATP Site shows Tommy is ranked #12 so really he didn't do badly this year :) Especially when you consider the sicknesses and injuries :sad: And now we know he has had his right shoulder operated on again :crying2: I hope he can recover and have a good 2008 ;)

Tommy fan
11-19-2007, 12:26 PM
Well,12 it's not bad and consider all the injuries like Mae wrote :)
But I think Tommy will start 2008 straight in AO which I'm not sure is good since he needs match time, and higer seeding would be nice too. :unsure:
I hope his gonna be OK soon :)

Tommy fan
01-28-2008, 07:13 PM
Omg what a slip!!
Tommy is now 27 :sad:

Sean.J.S.
01-29-2008, 12:20 PM
A slight slip? :o

kiwi10is
01-29-2008, 05:38 PM
Tommy has to defend 525 points until Miami. Be sure... the "slip" will become worse :sad:

16681
01-29-2008, 06:55 PM
Tommy has to defend 525 points until Miami. Be sure... the "slip" will become worse :sad:
Yes I changed the title to the thread back last year when it was only a "slip". Now it will be more like a "mudslide"
I'm afraid :scared:

Sean.J.S.
01-31-2008, 10:02 AM
Mudslide is the perfect way to describe it. :o

16681
02-01-2008, 03:22 AM
We will see how soon Tommy can come back and how well he can play. If it doesn't look good, I may change the thread to "mudslide" :sad:

Sean.J.S.
02-01-2008, 11:46 AM
I can't bear to think what his ranking will be if he doesn't do well in Memphis and IW. :tape: He must be out of the top 40 or something then...:sad:

16681
02-01-2008, 04:58 PM
I can't bear to think what his ranking will be if he doesn't do well in Memphis and IW. :tape: He must be out of the top 40 or something then...:sad:
Well if that shoulder will hold up Tommy seems to find a way to come back up in the rankings :) He has done it before so let's all hope he can do it again :D

Tommy fan
02-01-2008, 05:14 PM
Tommy :sad: :sad:

Grenouille
02-01-2008, 07:24 PM
when does he come back ???

Alexiana
02-02-2008, 01:18 AM
when does he come back ???

probably Delray Beach

16681
02-02-2008, 04:51 AM
probably Delray Beach
Please Tommy just don't rush that shoulder :angel: Does any one know exactly what Tommy had done during that 3rd surgery on his shoulder?

16681
02-04-2008, 06:57 AM
Well as of 2/4/08 Tommy's ranking is holding at #27.

platinum
02-07-2008, 03:09 PM
I miss him at the AO....

16681
02-09-2008, 05:24 AM
I miss him at the AO....
I miss him at any Tournament he misses :lol:

16681
02-20-2008, 03:51 AM
As of 2/18/08 the ATP Site shows Tommy's ranking actually went up to #26 :) We all know Tommy didn't do anything, but it looks nice anyway :lol:

Tommy fan
02-20-2008, 05:54 PM
:lol:
I guess if it wasn't funny it was sad..

16681
02-20-2008, 10:14 PM
:lol:
I guess if it wasn't funny it was sad..
That's exactly what I thought :) So I decided to go for the funny part :lol:

Tommy fan
02-21-2008, 12:58 PM
That's exactly what I thought :) So I decided to go for the funny part :lol:

Nice thinking ;)

16681
07-16-2008, 05:57 AM
I haven't been in MTF for some time now. As of 07/14/08 on the ATP Site Tommy was ranked #46 which was down 1 position :sad:
I hope I'm wrong, but after 3 shoulder surgeries I'm afraid things are going to be very difficult for Tommy :crying2:

Fee
07-16-2008, 06:05 AM
Where have you been? Hope everything's okay.

It's summertime, Tommy should do really well over the next two months.

Tommy fan
07-16-2008, 05:37 PM
Omg :sad" That's so low to him! :(
Come back to top Tommy!!!

16681
07-17-2008, 01:46 AM
Omg :sad" That's so low to him! :(
Come back to top Tommy!!!
Actually to look on the bright side for as little as Tommy has been able to play in 2008 he is lucky his ranking hasn't fallen more :angel:

16681
08-01-2008, 02:57 AM
Well since I mentioned Tommy's ranking in another thread I decided to check it at the ATP Site to see what it is. According to the ATP Site as of 7/28/08 Tommy was ranked #42 which was up 4 positions :) So he is getting that ranking up some, but it is going to be hard work :sad: But at least that is one thing about Tommy he has never been one to shy away from hard work ;)

TommyB.
08-01-2008, 03:05 PM
I hope Tommy can reach the top 32 before New York. He needs around 100 (?) points imo...minimum, not impossible but a good result in LA or Washington is necessary...better two ;)

Lugburz
08-01-2008, 03:12 PM
I hope Tommy can reach the top 32 before New York. He needs around 100 (?) points imo...minimum, not impossible but a good result in LA or Washington is necessary...better two ;)

Yeah,he can do that ;)

16681
08-02-2008, 09:29 PM
Well since so many players are going to be in China L.A. and Washington will be weak field Tournaments. Now if Tommy can just stay healthy he should be able to do well at these Tournaments :unsure:

Lugburz
08-04-2008, 02:39 PM
As it stands on Monday,Tommy is now ranked #40..He had to defend those points from Washington last year after all as we can see that these points are removed and replaced by this Cincy 75pt..Which means that he gained 25..He is now on 890.
Am I right,or I misunderstood it ?

thefly
08-04-2008, 02:52 PM
Right you are. But he will lose his points gained in Toronto and Cincy last year, next week and the week after that, respectively. At the same time, the 35 points from Halle and San Jose will be added again.

So regarding the points he has now, 45 are going to be gone again; however, he already defended his USO series points from last year. We just see by now that this wasn't really much to defend, and to climb again in the ranking, he needs some good results in the next couple of weeks.

Lugburz
08-04-2008, 03:00 PM
Right you are. But he will lose his points gained in Toronto and Cincy last year, next week and the week after that, respectively. At the same time, the 35 points from Halle and San Jose will be added again.

So regarding the points he has now, 45 are going to be gone again; however, he already defended his USO series points from last year. We just see by now that this wasn't really much to defend, and to climb again in the ranking, he needs some good results in the next couple of weeks.

Good,yeah I know that he will lose those last year Toronto and Cincy pt,once when those 52 weeks comes..But again,knowing that those no-countable will be added then he won't lose that much pints..
So hope for good next weeks,as he can really get into top32...I think that only matters for him right now,and it should...

Wyna
08-04-2008, 09:56 PM
I have the feeling that the ranking are much more complicated this year because of the changed schedule because of the Olympics... I get totally confused about when which points come off.
I just hope that Tommy somehow manages to do very well in these next tournaments to get that seeding.

Lugburz
08-04-2008, 10:15 PM
Yeah,it is all messed up due to Olympics...

16681
08-05-2008, 12:50 AM
That's why I like the ATP Site. It's tells you a player's ranking so you don't have to figure it out yourself :lol: And speaking of the ATP Site it shows Tommy's ranking as of today 8/4/08 as being #40 which is up 2 positions :D

Lugburz
08-11-2008, 12:13 PM
We are back on zero now as Canada has been removed from last year in Tommy's ranking breakdown...Tommy is now #48 but he won't loss any points in future (except 5p from Cincy last year,once they are removed)
So,Tommy will have to do all his best now if he wants to make to the top32 before USO...After all we will be expecting some withdrawals that could lead Tommy to the top32... Hardly but there is still hope that he can do it !

thefly
08-11-2008, 12:32 PM
Well, Tommy has it in his own hands, but it's going to be tough. A victory in DC would do it for sure; reaching the final may also suffice in the end. But the semis probably won't be enough.
Let's see.

Lugburz
08-11-2008, 12:35 PM
Fingers Crossed ! !

16681
08-12-2008, 08:45 PM
The U.S. Open is a Slam surely there are more than 32 players there. I'm confused about why you keep saying 32 :confused:

Lugburz
08-12-2008, 08:49 PM
The U.S. Open is a Slam surely there are more than 32 players there. I'm confused about why you keep saying 32 :confused:

We are saying that if gets top32,he will avoid players who will be seeded in first two rounds,I think that's very important as he needs a good draw there..

Lugburz
08-13-2008, 02:22 AM
Wait a sec..I just saw this...Tommy won't have to defend anything here in Wash,as I can see that points from last year are gone ! As Tommy hadn't played any tours last year this time,he will gain now full points from Wash this week.Right?

Also,Tommy will have bonus of 10pt...If I am right those points from Cincy last year will be removed next week and San Jose as non-countable tour will becomes countable...So when San Jose jumps in..That will be 15 point...Minus 5pt from Cincy last year...Equals...10 points...

thefly
08-13-2008, 10:08 AM
True. So now's the time! ;)

16681
08-14-2008, 10:10 AM
We are saying that if gets top32,he will avoid players who will be seeded in first two rounds,I think that's very important as he needs a good draw there..
If Tommy is well enough to play anywhere near his normal form, there are many seeded players it wouldn't worry me to have Tommy face. People seem so willing to pick on Tommy--why I don't know :confused: Yes all those shoulder surgeries made Tommy unable to play all his career at the level he would have without the surgeries. But when Tommy is feeling well and is on his game he is wonderful to watch playing tennis :cool: :drool: I really don't think he gets enough credit for what he has been able to do even with those surgeries :sad:

Lugburz
08-15-2008, 10:47 PM
OK Tommy that's 85p so far,still 100 to go...Manageable! ;)

el tenista
08-15-2008, 10:54 PM
Tommy is now #39. If he wins the SF he is #38, if he wins the Final he'll be #30!!

Lugburz
08-15-2008, 10:58 PM
Are you sure of that because he can gain all those 175p + 10 ?

Lugburz
08-15-2008, 11:00 PM
Yeah yeah dude I saw that you wrote #30,sorry I thought I saw something else :D

Lugburz
08-15-2008, 11:05 PM
You know,I am worry about that last tour before USO that Tommy won't play,there will be many of those players who will also try to reach the top32..Are we in threat by them?

thefly
08-15-2008, 11:25 PM
Well, some will win points, some will lose points, so I guess it's hard to say. I think if Tommy wins Washington (still a long way to go) he should be save. If he reaches the final, he just needs a little bit of luck. Let's wait and see. Right now, Tommy has to fight for the best initial position possible. The rest is Karma. ;)

Lugburz
08-16-2008, 12:57 AM
Well, some will win points, some will lose points, so I guess it's hard to say. I think if Tommy wins Washington (still a long way to go) he should be save. If he reaches the final, he just needs a little bit of luck. Let's wait and see. Right now, Tommy has to fight for the best initial position possible. The rest is Karma. ;)

Yeah,that's it...I think I will be calculating everything after this week,I will watch every movement of a player who can be a threat to Tommy on his way to the top32 ;)

el tenista
08-16-2008, 02:31 PM
Yeah,that's it...I think I will be calculating everything after this week,I will watch every movement of a player who can be a threat to Tommy on his way to the top32 ;)

The tournament in New Heaven doesn't matter. The draw comes out on Thursday so Monday's ranking counts!

Lugburz
08-16-2008, 02:55 PM
The tournament in New Heaven doesn't matter. The draw comes out on Thursday so Monday's ranking counts!

Wow,that is awesome thing to hear :) Then Tommy has really good chances reaching that famous top32!
It's up to him from now on,with our big support of course ;)
Come on,Del Potro's next :devil:

Lugburz
08-16-2008, 05:37 PM
As I can see,player like Nieminen,Moya,Monaco,Hewitt will lose lot of points the next Monday as they didn't defend their pt from last year...That's even more chance for Tommy to do well...

16681
08-16-2008, 11:05 PM
As I can see,player like Nieminen,Moya,Monaco,Hewitt will lose lot of points the next Monday as they didn't defend their pt from last year...That's even more chance for Tommy to do well...
I have been a fan of Tommy's for years and I love him dearly :inlove: But the posting in here needs a reality check at times. If I didn't know better and just came in and read these posts, I would think Tommy was a young and healthy athlete--not a 30 year old player that has had 3 shoulder surgeries on his serving arm. It doesn't matter all that much if Tommy is seeded or unseeded at the U.S. Open because sad to say he is not doing to win the Tournament :sad: Tommy's career is on borrowed time now and we all just should be happy he is still able to stay on the Tour, pick up some wins, and we can still see him play :D He was able to win some Tournaments with two shoulder surgeries which was amazing to me, however, I don't know about him winning Tournaments now after the 3rd surgery :unsure: And not just because of the surgery, but also more and more younger players who have talent are coming up fast in the rankings like Juan.

Lugburz
08-16-2008, 11:14 PM
I know your point,We all know big reality of Tommy's,but always reminding how he had those surgeries won't benefit for anyone especially Tommy...
But as long as he is able to play I will have faith in him like I had all those years back..

thefly
08-17-2008, 01:13 PM
I think there was a little mistake to our ranking calculations. Tommy will NOT gain 10 extra points, because while Cincy from last year will be removed, San Jose will NOT be added again, since this week's result in Washington takes over that spot in the "Best 5 other" list. So this means he will still lose the 5 points from Cincy, and thus will only gain 70 points on the whole, instead of 85 as we originally thought.

Lugburz
08-17-2008, 01:21 PM
You are so right,how did I missed that :(
So anyway #39 for him,but again with those 85 that we thought he could got better only 1 place at #38...

thefly
08-17-2008, 02:03 PM
Yeah well, let's see who loses points by the end of the week, and then who's actually in the USO field. I guess it's only a small chance ... but even if he's not seeded, he can still have luck with the draw.

thefly
08-17-2008, 02:22 PM
I just did a quick check on last year's results in Cincy, and both Hewitt and Moya will lose big time and if I'm not mistaken should fall behind Tommy, so I guess he'll be 37 next week.

el tenista
08-17-2008, 03:04 PM
Why don't you just use this topic:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=114565

He'll be #39 ;)

oranges
08-17-2008, 03:07 PM
I have been a fan of Tommy's for years and I love him dearly :inlove: But the posting in here needs a reality check at times. If I didn't know better and just came in and read these posts, I would think Tommy was a young and healthy athlete--not a 30 year old player that has had 3 shoulder surgeries on his serving arm. It doesn't matter all that much if Tommy is seeded or unseeded at the U.S. Open because sad to say he is not doing to win the Tournament :sad: Tommy's career is on borrowed time now and we all just should be happy he is still able to stay on the Tour, pick up some wins, and we can still see him play :D He was able to win some Tournaments with two shoulder surgeries which was amazing to me, however, I don't know about him winning Tournaments now after the 3rd surgery :unsure: And not just because of the surgery, but also more and more younger players who have talent are coming up fast in the rankings like Juan.

Can I remind you that Goran won Wimbledon at the same age with an ailing shoulder as a wild card ranked below 130. He may or may not do anything similar for all we know, but for God's sake let the guy play and us follow it without that depressing outlook.

thefly
08-17-2008, 04:09 PM
Aw crap, forgot about Monfils, and he just can't edge past Llodra. Damn this Cincy/"Best 5 other" screw up this week. :p.

Lugburz
08-18-2008, 02:46 AM
And Tommy is #39,exactly as we calculated...

16681
08-19-2008, 03:23 AM
Can I remind you that Goran won Wimbledon at the same age with an ailing shoulder as a wild card ranked below 130. He may or may not do anything similar for all we know, but for God's sake let the guy play and us follow it without that depressing outlook.
There is a BIG difference between depression and reality.
I'm thrilled that Tommy is able to play at all which is far, far from depression. However, I know his chances at winning the U.S. Open are about as good as me becoming richer than Bill Gates. Trust me it just isn't going to happen :sad: However, depending on the draw he can still pick up wins and we can still watch him play :D :drool: :drool:

oranges
08-19-2008, 05:36 AM
There is a BIG difference between depression and reality.
I'm thrilled that Tommy is able to play at all which is far, far from depression. However, I know his chances at winning the U.S. Open are about as good as me becoming richer than Bill Gates. Trust me it just isn't going to happen :sad: However, depending on the draw he can still pick up wins and we can still watch him play :D :drool: :drool:

No offense, but reality is not he can't beat Del Potro, he's not even a big guy yet. It's depressing reading lamentations about his age and shoulder problems, combined with assessments that the time to win anything of relevance is over. Like I said, Goran was in worse situation in every respect and he went to win a GS, beating on the way many guys I'm sure you'd equally proclaim unbeatable for him at the time. It was not my intention to imply Tommy will necessarily win one too, but just that stranger things have ahppened and we really don't know. Tommy doesn't seem like a delusional guy to me, so if he says he can compete with the truly big guys, it is my opinion his fans should respect that.

16681
08-19-2008, 10:08 PM
No offense, but reality is not he can't beat Del Potro, he's not even a big guy yet. It's depressing reading lamentations about his age and shoulder problems, combined with assessments that the time to win anything of relevance is over. Like I said, Goran was in worse situation in every respect and he went to win a GS, beating on the way many guys I'm sure you'd equally proclaim unbeatable for him at the time. It was not my intention to imply Tommy will necessarily win one too, but just that stranger things have ahppened and we really don't know. Tommy doesn't seem like a delusional guy to me, so if he says he can compete with the truly big guys, it is my opinion his fans should respect that.
The reality was exactly as I said. Del Potro defeated Tommy. In fact he not only defeated Tommy he beat him badly :sad: Did I say that Tommy would never ever defeat Del Potro--no. I said there was no way Tommy was going to defeat him in the Tournament's thread we were posting in. And I was right. MTF is not just for those of us who post here. If you will notice by the post and view counts, far more people read here than post here. So I will continue to post with the reality of Tommy's situation in any given Tournament . Am I always right--no. And when I'm wrong I'll say so. In fact I was badly wrong about the L.A. Tournament. I thought Tommy was going to do very well there and yet he lost in the 1st Rd :sad: You know if you don't like seeing my posts you can always put me on your ignore list. That way you won't even see them.

Lugburz
08-21-2008, 07:36 PM
BTW,Does anyone knows how Tommy is seeded at USO,as #39 from Monday,or like Iv read somewhere #46 ?
I know this is not important at all,but I'm confused if he ain't #39 as from Monday 18th...

el tenista
08-21-2008, 08:17 PM
Sorry, but I didn't get your point? What do you mean by "seeded at US Open"?
Next week he'll be #38 if you mean that...

Lugburz
08-21-2008, 10:03 PM
No,I just meant in the whole entry list how he is ranked at USO...

thefly
08-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Well, he isn't "ranked" specifically at the Open. He isn't seeded and thus just gets drawn against one seed. Apart from that, as of this week, he is #39 in the ATP ranking and #57 in the race.

oranges
08-21-2008, 11:16 PM
No,I just meant in the whole entry list how he is ranked at USO...

Entry list is always based on earlier rankings than seeds, that's way he appears as 40-something in the entry list. No seeding in any case and not much luck with the draw :(

thefly
08-22-2008, 12:55 AM
Entry list is always based on earlier rankings than seeds, that's way he appears as 40-something in the entry list. No seeding in any case and not much luck with the draw :(

Yeah, don't get why they do this, since it doesn't matter anyway and doesn't influence the drawing (I think).

oranges
08-22-2008, 01:40 AM
^^ I think it's because of qualies, they need to determine who enters directly and who is eligible for qualifications earlier. Seeds can be determined shortly before the draw.

thefly
08-22-2008, 11:05 AM
Ah, good point.

16681
02-03-2009, 05:42 AM
I thought since it was mentioned in another thread I would go ahead and post it in here. Plus change the thread title again to a more positive note :D As of 2/2/09 according to the ATP Site Tommy's ranking is now up to 65 :yippee:


EDIT: I forgot to add that is up 14 positions :)
Just think what it might have been had he not had to face Nadal in the 3rd Rd :sad:

oranges
02-03-2009, 06:37 AM
He has IW QF and practically nothing else to defend till Wimbledon, so any good results should mean a rise in hte rankings :yeah:

Alexiana
02-03-2009, 12:46 PM
good to see it's getting up again:woohoo:

thefly
02-16-2009, 04:18 PM
Tommy's 61 as of today. Not much of a gain, but progress is progress. ;)

16681
02-17-2009, 06:04 AM
Well with the way the ranking are done sometimes it isn't so much what the player has done, but what the other players around him have done. For myself I'm happy for any improvement in Tommy's ranking :D And the playing of Doubles in San Jose gave him much needed playing time since he had been out so long. And apparently his health is really good right now :D

16681
03-16-2009, 12:49 AM
As of 3/9/09 the ATP site shows Tommy's ranking has slipped down slightly to #64. I'm not changing the thread title yet because I hope the ranking will start back up. However, the Indian Wells draw wasn't very kind to Tommy this year :sad:

el tenista
03-16-2009, 07:45 AM
As of 3/9/09 the ATP site shows Tommy's ranking has slipped down slightly to #64. I'm not changing the thread title yet because I hope the ranking will start back up. However, the Indian Wells draw wasn't very kind to Tommy this year :sad:

Of course it was. Look at seeded guys like Monfils and their draw. Tommy had very very very very very very (!!!) much luck with his draw. Did you watch Isner yesterday? Tommy would have made, let's guess, 3 games per set and not more. He can be very happy with his draw as the World No. 64!

Wyna
03-16-2009, 03:13 PM
Of course it was. Look at seeded guys like Monfils and their draw. Tommy had very very very very very very (!!!) much luck with his draw. Did you watch Isner yesterday? Tommy would have made, let's guess, 3 games per set and not more. He can be very happy with his draw as the World No. 64!

I agree, but it's still very hard to get the ranking up with that draw and the result from last year ;)

thefly
03-16-2009, 04:34 PM
I agree, but it's still very hard to get the ranking up with that draw and the result from last year ;)

Plenty of opportunities ahead I'd say. Just look at all the zeros in Tommy's ranking breakdown.

However, it will be interesting to see what he will do during the clay season. Will he play at all? If he loses some points now, it can get a little tough to enter tournaments after the clay season, so adding some points on clay would be wise.
As of now, Tommy doesn't seem to play Houston, as TommyB. already pointed out in the other thread; it looks like Tommy might play Monte Carlo, though ...

kiwi10is
03-16-2009, 05:36 PM
Tommy will lose 250 points in Indian Wells and he only won 45 so far. Someone calculates the rankings daily here http://www.tennisteen.it/classifiche-aggiornate.html right now it looks like his ranking will be top 90 next week if he will lose against Djokovic. And he might not be able to fill all those zeros in his ranking breakdown because he will not be qualified for Masters Tournaments or he will not play them because they are clay tournaments. In an interview Tommy said that he will not play many claycourt tournaments this year. Don't know what "many" means but it will not improve his rankings if he skips the clayseason. After the claycourt season he will for sure get a wildcard for Halle if he needs and wants one but for Grand Slams you need to be top 100 to enter directly... so what about Wimbledon if he cannot collect points on clay?

Lugburz
03-16-2009, 05:52 PM
Seems like Tommy will have the worst drop if he lose to Novak...But that's the thing what other players must go through...Hope Tommy is enjoying tennis atm,so anything can happen..Miami is his chance...

thefly
03-16-2009, 07:03 PM
Tommy will lose 250 points in Indian Wells and he only won 45 so far. Someone calculates the rankings daily here http://www.tennisteen.it/classifiche-aggiornate.html right now it looks like his ranking will be top 90 next week if he will lose against Djokovic. And he might not be able to fill all those zeros in his ranking breakdown because he will not be qualified for Masters Tournaments or he will not play them because they are clay tournaments. In an interview Tommy said that he will not play many claycourt tournaments this year. Don't know what "many" means but it will not improve his rankings if he skips the clayseason. After the claycourt season he will for sure get a wildcard for Halle if he needs and wants one but for Grand Slams you need to be top 100 to enter directly... so what about Wimbledon if he cannot collect points on clay?

Yeah, as I said, he should play some clay court tournaments, and I'm sure he will. And since he doesn't have to defend anything, chances are not too bad to add some more points. Maybe he plays Monte Carlo, Munich and the French Open (although he doesn't have to bring in every Grand Slam and can replace it with another result, since he did finish outside the top 30 last year - on the other hand, lots of points to gain in a Grand Slam with a decent draw ...) and that may be it.
Furthermore, I think different players will lose points as severely as Tommy may next week over the course of the year, since a large part of the top 100 still takes advantage of the doubled points.

May all that be as it is - IW is still running, and Miami is also up, so let's see.

Wyna
03-16-2009, 08:23 PM
looking at that scenario he really should play in Miami, get at least some points and then we'll see what he's planning to do during the clay season. :shrug:

el tenista
03-16-2009, 10:05 PM
He might have a direct spot for Monte Carlo (#39). Maybe he can win one round or two.

Entry list (not is complete confirmed)

1. Nadal, Rafael (1)
2. Djokovic, Novak (1)
3. Davydenko, Nikolay (1)
4. Del Potro, Juan Martin (1)
5. Simon, Gilles (1)
6. Monfils, Gael (1)
7. Ferrer, David (1)
8. Nalbandian, David (1)
9. Wawrinka, Stanislas (1)
10. Stepanek, Radek (1)
11. Almagro, Nicolas (1)
12. Berdych, Tomas (1)
13. Andreev, Igor (1)
14. Gasquet, Richard (1)
15. Safin, Marat (1)
16. Soderling, Robin (1)
17. Lopez, Feliciano (1)
18. Karlovic, Ivo (1)
19. Ancic, Mario (1)
20. Schuettler, Rainer (1)
21. Mathieu, Paul-Henri (1)
22. Kohlschreiber, Philipp (1)
23. Kunitsyn, Igor (1)
24. Seppi, Andreas (1)
25. Bolelli, Simone (1)
26. Troicki, Viktor (1)
27. Benneteau, Julien (1)
28. Acasuso, Jose (1)
29. Tipsarevic, Janko (1)
30. Chardy, Jeremy (1)
31. Vassallo Arguello, Martin (1)
32. Serra, Florent (1)
33. Gicquel, Marc (1)
34. Rochus, Christophe (1)
35. Monaco, Juan (1)
36. Schwank, Eduardo (1)
37. Hernych, Jan (1)
38. Sela, Dudi (1)
39. Haas, Tommy (1)
40. Navarro, Ivan (1)
41. Junqueira, Diego (1)
42. Bellucci, Thomaz (1)
43. Starace, Potito (1)
44. Ljubicic, Ivan (1)
45. Gabashvili, Teimuraz (1)

kiwi10is
03-17-2009, 05:53 PM
he is 10th alternate for Monte Carlo and 21st alternate for Rome

TommyB.
03-17-2009, 07:25 PM
he should play some challenger until Halle ;)

Munich and/or Paris, to be honest...I can't see more stages on clay :shrug:

el tenista
03-17-2009, 07:32 PM
he is 10th alternate for Monte Carlo and 21st alternate for Rome

Okay, then some guys signed in lately. Just saw the official entry list. Crap...
So there is a very very little chance to play Monte Carlo but no chance to play Rome. Let's see what he'll do.

kiwi10is
03-17-2009, 07:35 PM
there are a few good hardcourt challengers in Southafrica, Greece and Israel but I doubt Tommy will go back to Challengers ....

el tenista
03-17-2009, 07:57 PM
there are a few good hardcourt challengers in Southafrica, Greece and Israel but I doubt Tommy will go back to Challengers ....

Me too. In an interview some time ago he said that he won't play any qualies or challengers. If this is the case, he will retire he said...

Lugburz
03-17-2009, 08:04 PM
Although it's a sad thing to hear,I can understand not playing Challengers.
Though,I am not sure about quallies,that could also be beneficial..

TommyB.
03-17-2009, 08:10 PM
I would play some of these hc challengers until Halle. It's better than playing qualies on clay or taking a long break until grass. But let's wait and see what he'll do. His match today is more important. ;)

Lugburz
03-17-2009, 08:12 PM
I would play some of these hc challengers until Halle. It's better than playing qualies on clay or taking a long break until grass. But let's wait and see what he'll do. His match today is more important. ;)

Couldn't agree more :D

el tenista
03-17-2009, 08:29 PM
Yep, one or two more wins in IW would help very much...

thefly
03-17-2009, 08:32 PM
lol, Tommy playing challengers ... don't see it. If I'm not mistaken, Tommy played five challangers or something like that at the beginning of his carrer, that was it, ATP tour right away. Boy, what talent ...

However, I'd like to see him play some of these challengers this summer. But I guess he would prefer practice at home.

16681
03-18-2009, 12:43 AM
Of course it was. Look at seeded guys like Monfils and their draw. Tommy had very very very very very very (!!!) much luck with his draw. Did you watch Isner yesterday? Tommy would have made, let's guess, 3 games per set and not more. He can be very happy with his draw as the World No. 64!
Playing Nole in the 3rd Rd of a Tournament is good luck?
If that is your idea of good luck, I don't want to hear your idea of bad luck. And he lost points at the Tournament by having to face Nole in the 3rd Rd :sad: I don't see Tommy playing any CH Tournaments myself. They could really help his ranking, but I think Tommy has too much pride to play CH Tournaments now.

oranges
03-18-2009, 12:46 AM
Playing Nole in the 3rd Rd of a Tournament is good luck?
If that is your idea of good luck, I don't want to hear your idea of bad luck. And he lost points at the Tournament by having to face Nole in the 3rd Rd :sad:

Yes, because he coudl have played him in the 1st round

el tenista
03-18-2009, 10:05 AM
Playing Nole in the 3rd Rd of a Tournament is good luck?
If that is your idea of good luck, I don't want to hear your idea of bad luck. And he lost points at the Tournament by having to face Nole in the 3rd Rd :sad: I don't see Tommy playing any CH Tournaments myself. They could really help his ranking, but I think Tommy has too much pride to play CH Tournaments now.

You are No.64. You play a Masters 1000 event where 48 players of the top 50 signed in. It's not good luck that he got Schüttler as the seed he had to play in round 2? It's not good luck that he got Hernandez in round 1? He could have had to play against Querrey in round 1. Or against Isner. In my opinion, especially Hernandez is one of the weakest players in this Masters field because he's definitely a clay courter. So this was really good luck for Tommy. Furthermore, Nole is not in the best form today and Tommy had more than a chance to get set 2 and then I can't say what Nole would have done in the deciding one. Djokovic is not on the same level as Nadal, Federer or Murray at the moment and you cannot count him to the top guys the ATP scene always talks about.
I'll give you my definiton of bad luck:
First round: Isner, Querrey, Seppi, Chardy, Ljubicic, Gulbis, Kohlschreiber, Lopez, Llodra, Hewitt.
Second round: Nadal, Federer, Murray, Nalbandian, Del Potro, Roddick (Haas has a good record against him but Roddick plays well at the moment), Verdasco.
So for me, Nole was not bad luck.
Why I do answer like this is that I cannot understand why a few people in here always complain of either Tommy's bad ranking or draw situation. Where's your fighting spirit? If Tommy has the same attitude and always kind of gives up before he begins to play, he will have no chance in future. But he always tries to give his best and this is what all of his fans should do. If he draws a top guy, he will draw a top guy but this is no reason to complain. He plays ATP level and then you must be competitive to have at least a chance to win something against these players. Tommy was competitive as we could see in set 2 yesterday so there is no reason to capitulate. Fight and support Tommy!

yumo
03-18-2009, 06:49 PM
Me too. In an interview some time ago he said that he won't play any qualies or challengers. If this is the case, he will retire he said...
Me three :D
He didn't played any Challenges even in 2004 when he haven't any ranking :cool:
And his body is very vulnerable :unsure: if when he playing the challengers have any bad thing happen...It is not worth :o
I think if he wants there is lots of tournaments would give him the wild card(For example Munich and Halle etc.):dance:

Lugburz
05-18-2009, 04:24 PM
Tommy will be around #65 spot after the Madrid...Now,gaining some points at FO would be great,his ranking should improve even more ;)

el tenista
05-18-2009, 10:18 PM
Tommy will be around #65 spot after the Madrid...Now,gaining some points at FO would be great,his ranking should improve even more ;)

He's ranked at no. 63. He'll crush Rafa in R128 and defeats Federer in the final. Believe me.

:cool:

Lugburz
05-19-2009, 01:05 AM
I drink to that !

16681
05-28-2009, 03:45 AM
Tommy is still ranked at #63 according to the ATP Site as of 5/25/09. So I hope he can pick up even more wins at the F.O. because that would help. And don't get me wrong I just want Tommy to have VERY easy draws right now to help his ranking. Tommy is indeed a fighter. Most players would have given up long ago with all the trouble Tommy has had and all the rehab time he has had to put in. Most players wouldn't even put up with all that rehab, but Tommy still really wants not only to play--he still wants to win :worship: :bowdown:

el tenista
06-02-2009, 03:00 PM
According to Judio's thread, Tommy will be No.41 next Monday! :) That's great news! Maybe he'll be seeded in Wimbledon if he has a decent run in Halle...
Of course, you can delete Gasquet from the ranking list because he will lose many of his points in the next weeks, so in fact Tommy will be No. 40!

Lugburz
06-02-2009, 03:20 PM
Pretty great I think :D :D Auf Fuck!ng Geht's!

oranges
06-02-2009, 03:42 PM
Big boost :yeah:

thefly
06-08-2009, 12:59 PM
Tommy's once again a "mover of the week" on the ATP main page, for his jump to the projected no. 41. And when you look at the ranking and the number of tournaments played, and compare that to the other players around his ranking position ... well done, Tommy. :)

TommyB.
06-08-2009, 11:11 PM
He climbed up from #87 to #41 during the clay season. Who would have thought it before. Nice work Tommy! :)

<Eve>
06-09-2009, 07:42 AM
:bigclap:

sundog
06-10-2009, 04:14 AM
So thrilled for Tommy! Glad to see the big jump. GOOOO TOMMY!!! :woohoo:

Lugburz
06-10-2009, 02:41 PM
So thrilled for Tommy! Glad to see the big jump. GOOOO TOMMY!!! :woohoo:

welcome sundog ;)

sundog
06-12-2009, 03:42 AM
Thanks, Lugburz! I've actually been reading Tommy's threads on here for a while now and finally decided to join. I see that you're a member of Tommy's website too. :)

<Eve>
06-12-2009, 08:22 AM
Thanks, Lugburz! I've actually been reading Tommy's threads on here for a while now and finally decided to join. I see that you're a member of Tommy's website too. :)
Hi sundog! welcome here, good thing you joined :)
I think we're all members of MTF & Tommy's website ;)

el tenista
06-12-2009, 09:52 AM
Hi sundog! welcome here, good thing you joined :)
I think we're all members of MTF & Tommy's website ;)

Definitely ;)
Welcome sundog! :)

sundog
06-13-2009, 04:03 AM
Thanks, guys. Should've known Tommy would have the friendliest fans! :lol:

16681
06-13-2009, 04:28 AM
Wow I guess there is really something to be said about keeping the faith. I left the thread title to "on the way back up again" when it didn't seem certain that Tommy's ranking would actually be on the way up. And look at him now :yippee: :dance: :woohoo: :banana: :rocker:

<Eve>
06-13-2009, 07:26 AM
So you're not the kiss of death Mae, you're just the best!!! :D Thanks to you he's back on the way up again :woohoo:

Wyna
06-13-2009, 12:00 PM
I really think that his performance is impressive right now. We were worrying about direct entries to tournaments a month ago and now we can dream about a US Open seeding!

thefly
06-13-2009, 12:23 PM
I really think that his performance is impressive right now. We were worrying about direct entries to tournaments a month ago and now we can dream about a US Open seeding!

I'm inclined to say that's more a propability than dream, isn't it?

Lugburz
06-13-2009, 12:31 PM
I'm inclined to say that's more a propability than dream, isn't it?

Yeah sure,and dream would be Wimbly seeding,but not to be hasty,we have a match in 30 mins.Auf Geht's!

Wyna
06-13-2009, 01:00 PM
I'm inclined to say that's more a propability than dream, isn't it?

You are probably right :D

Lugburz
06-13-2009, 04:34 PM
Tommy's now #36 with 150 from the final already...Well we need only couple more of withdrawals from W and that could be it!

thefly
06-13-2009, 04:35 PM
I think you forgot to remove the 20 points from last year.

Lugburz
06-13-2009, 04:40 PM
I think you forgot to remove the 20 points from last year.

right you are I forgot,but still without those 20pts he's #36 as Ancic is next on the ranking list and he'll skip W...

Lugburz
06-13-2009, 04:42 PM
btw,what's up with kiefer? will he play Wimbly ?
and with Nalbandian and Gasquet OUT, Stepanek,Monfils,Melzer are OUT from Eastbourne,so....

<Eve>
06-13-2009, 04:44 PM
Roddick with his ankle.. quit during semis in London, maybe out aswell :confused:

16681
06-14-2009, 04:44 AM
Roddick with his ankle.. quit during semis in London, maybe out aswell :confused:
Tommy Girl I don't think the injury was that bad. I saw the Match on TV. I think Andy retired more to make sure he would be O.K. for Wimbledon. But who cares--frankly I would like for everyone to be out except Tommy :p :lol: I know that can't happen, but it is a nice dream anyway ;)
One of the reasons I was so out of touch with Halle was because the Americans went to Queens so you know which Tournament is getting all the TV coverage here in the U.S. :ras:

<Eve>
06-14-2009, 09:15 AM
Tommy Girl I don't think the injury was that bad. I saw the Match on TV. I think Andy retired more to make sure he would be O.K. for Wimbledon. But who cares--frankly I would like for everyone to be out except Tommy :p :lol: I know that can't happen, but it is a nice dream anyway ;)
One of the reasons I was so out of touch with Halle was because the Americans went to Queens so you know which Tournament is getting all the TV coverage here in the U.S. :ras:
Ohw :o:rolleyes: haha i didnt see the match so i only heard roddick was out because of his feet :p So i thought it was serious :lol:
So nevermind, Andy is in, but I think Soderling will beat everyone in his half and then Tommy will play the finals and defeat Soderling :angel: that seems like a nice draw to me ;)

It's great he might be a ranked player at wimby :woohoo:

sundog
06-14-2009, 04:11 PM
With his win in Halle, does anyone know what Tommy's ranking will be tomorrow?

el tenista
06-14-2009, 04:41 PM
With his win in Halle, does anyone know what Tommy's ranking will be tomorrow?

No. 35, look at Judio's rankings thread:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=135329

Lugburz
06-14-2009, 05:30 PM
ok so we have 2 confirmed withdrawals for Wimbly,now 1 more and Tommy is seeded,right?

el tenista
06-14-2009, 05:50 PM
ok so we have 2 confirmed withdrawals for Wimbly,now 1 more and Tommy is seeded,right?

Right. If one of No. 25-32 withdraws, Tommy will be seeded at No. 25, if someone from No.1-24 withdraws, Tommy will be seeded at No.24. As the No.24, he would avoid being confronted with a Top8 seed in Round 3...

Lugburz
06-14-2009, 06:01 PM
Right. If one of No. 25-32 withdraws, Tommy will be seeded at No. 25, if someone from No.1-24 withdraws, Tommy will be seeded at No.24. As the No.24, he would avoid being confronted with a Top8 seed in Round 3...

wow boy! that's awesome :eek: well,then we are so close!

Lugburz
06-14-2009, 06:21 PM
I just got a reply from the Wimbly thread:
''Melzer has problems with his back, he will undergo some tests in Vienna on Monday:
http://www.laola1.at/128+M5b00f28083a.html''

sundog
06-14-2009, 07:04 PM
No. 35, look at Judio's rankings thread:

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=135329
Thanks el tenista. I wondered where this thread could be found. :)

16681
06-16-2009, 06:20 AM
:yippee: Keep going up Tommy :D

thefly
06-20-2009, 09:15 PM
Looks like Tommy will have crawled up another place on Monday. ;)

16681
06-28-2009, 02:24 AM
Looks like Tommy will have crawled up another place on Monday. ;)
Yes as of 6/22/09 the ATP site showed Tommy was up 1 position to #34 :yippee: I can't wait until he cracks back into the Top Twenty ;)

Lugburz
06-28-2009, 03:25 PM
Yes as of 6/22/09 the ATP site showed Tommy was up 1 position to #34 :yippee: I can't wait until he cracks back into the Top Twenty ;)

:yeah:

thefly
06-28-2009, 03:56 PM
A pity that reaching the last 16 in Wimby won't do that much good ranking-wise because of the doubling of last years points, although we might again see an effect because other players on the other hand will lose a lot of points because of this doubling (as I think was also the case after the FO), so we'll see ...

Lugburz
06-28-2009, 04:00 PM
exactly ,but I'm not too worried about the points from W.I'm actually just glad he defended those,shame 'bout new point system but again that will affect the other players as well ;) especially some of the top20..

<Eve>
06-28-2009, 05:28 PM
:confused: what new points, i missed that.... :o

Lugburz
06-28-2009, 05:33 PM
nothing much,example if tommy lost to cilic even he defended r3 from the last year he would lose 60pts,because 'they' changed old points system for the Slams...As I remember last year 3rd Round was 150,now its 90...

Lugburz
06-28-2009, 05:36 PM
oh,you're welcome :lol:

<Eve>
06-28-2009, 05:37 PM
nothing much,example if tommy lost to cilic even he defended r3 from the last year he would lose 60pts,because 'they' changed old points system for the Slams...As I remember last year 3rd Round was 150,now its 90...
:lol: Yesss that means I'm not stupid.

The other day I wanted to find out about tommys ranking (i used to be lazy and just waited till someone said what his new ranking was) but then i thought 'ok i'll try to figure it out'.. I saw the defending points of his last years wimbledon didnt match the points on the ATP site, so I thought 'I'll never understand the ranking stuff' .. But I do. they just changed the point :D
So tnx!! :p

Lugburz
06-28-2009, 05:39 PM
oh,you're welcome :lol:

so basically it doesn't matter much as the other players are affected as well,so no worries,I'm prettty sure Tommy will be soon in the top 20

oranges
06-28-2009, 06:31 PM
In the race rankings they maintain, he was 26 as of June 20. With Wimby results so far, he should jump within top 20. With the American HC season coming, that could very well be the situation in the entry ranking very soon :yeah:

shadows
06-28-2009, 10:10 PM
Am I right in thinking that if Tommy was to run all the way to the semis at wimbledon (here's hoping) that he'd make that leap up to the top 20 already? It's getting exciting, there's a real chance for him!

oranges
06-28-2009, 10:19 PM
^^ Something around 18-21, depending on how Andreev, Wawrinka, Berdych and Stepanek still do

TennisFan2012
06-28-2009, 11:36 PM
Thanks, everyone, for explaining the points situation.

sundog
06-29-2009, 04:47 AM
^^ Something around 18-21, depending on how Andreev, Wawrinka, Berdych and Stepanek still doHow exciting to think that Tommy could soon be in the top 20 again!! :banana:

oranges
06-29-2009, 05:03 AM
Well, scratch Andreev since he's going down :devil: I wasn't paying attention who he's playing when I looked up who's got a chance to be around the same number of points.

thefly
06-30-2009, 10:31 AM
Looks like at this stage, Tommy will break the top 30 again and be just 5 points shy of being Germany's numero uno again.

Come on, one more! ;)

oranges
07-01-2009, 04:22 PM
Up to 19 now :rocker:

<Eve>
07-01-2009, 04:26 PM
Awesome :yeah:

Wyna
07-01-2009, 04:32 PM
That's the way! :banana:

thefly
07-01-2009, 05:06 PM
Up to 19 now :rocker:

Is that already calculated through properly? It looks good, but there are also the results of other players to be considered ...

But damn, these are many points! No wonders Schüttler's gonna sink so deeply.

oranges
07-01-2009, 05:12 PM
Is that already calculated through properly? It looks good, but there are also the results of other players to be considered ...

But damn, these are many points! No wonders Schüttler's gonna sink so deeply.

As far as I can tell, Judio updated it until today, I just added 360 more. Karlovic is out so that should be it.

thefly
07-01-2009, 05:17 PM
As far as I can tell, Judio updated it until today, I just added 360 more. Karlovic is out so that should be it.

Oh yeah, that should do it, cool. :)

Lugburz
07-01-2009, 05:20 PM
:hatoff::hatoff: Tommy :hatoff::hatoff:

for another incredible comeback!!!!!!

thefly
07-01-2009, 05:28 PM
This could become an even greater comeback than the one in 2004. Granted, he wasn't out that long, and finishing the year at 17 back than after all that might never be equaled again by anyone, but still, I'm curious where he will end up this time. Still lots of tourneys left.

Stuff of legends.

timoe
07-01-2009, 10:42 PM
It hasn't been a long time ago that I've calculated and calculated how Tommy could get enough points to at least stay in the top 50 and I thought it wouldn't be easy... Now he has almost got the necessary points in just 2 tournaments in the grasscourt eason!
For me it was a dream that he could maybe win another tournament or reach one more semifinal Grandslam tournament but, to be honest, not something I really thought would come true. Still can't believe this great comeback, once again, just great Tommy! :worship:

Ok we're back in the top 20, new goal now finally reach the Masters Cup of the top 8? :D

sundog
07-02-2009, 03:02 AM
WAY TO GO TOMMY!!! :woohoo:

This is great news!! He is playing wonderfully and totally deserves to be back in the top 20!!


Ok we're back in the top 20, new goal now finally reach the Masters Cup of the top 8? :D

I like the way you think timoe! Tommy can totally do it!

whattheheck
07-02-2009, 03:10 AM
Wow, he could reach the top 10 if he continues to play well.

Lugburz
07-02-2009, 03:07 PM
It hasn't been a long time ago that I've calculated and calculated how Tommy could get enough points to at least stay in the top 50 and I thought it wouldn't be easy... Now he has almost got the necessary points in just 2 tournaments in the grasscourt eason!
For me it was a dream that he could maybe win another tournament or reach one more semifinal Grandslam tournament but, to be honest, not something I really thought would come true. Still can't believe this great comeback, once again, just great Tommy! :worship:

Ok we're back in the top 20, new goal now finally reach the Masters Cup of the top 8? :D

I agree ! :yeah:

16681
07-03-2009, 11:23 PM
Right now I'm just happy with the Top Twenty because it wasn't all that long ago that Tommy was saying he was thinking of retirement. And for him to reach the Top Twenty again seemed like it might not even happen at all.

rica87
07-06-2009, 09:46 AM
here's the official confirmation! Hasi's No. 19 in the rankings now! :worship: please don't pull a "Marat" next year! :awww:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

DartMarcus
07-06-2009, 10:09 AM
I am so happy for Tommy! Who expected him to break top 20 just before Madrid masters? (he was almost outside of top 80 that moment) He`s done great job in last several months to come back where he belongs :D
Tommy has got almost nothing to defend the rest of the year (just Washington semis, Cinci R3 and some R2)

thefly
07-06-2009, 10:51 AM
Just to sum it up:

Date - Singles ranking
06.07.2009 - 19
22.06.2009 - 34
15.06.2009 - 35
08.06.2009 - 41
25.05.2009 - 63
18.05.2009 - 63
11.05.2009 - 75
04.05.2009 - 76
27.04.2009 - 77
20.04.2009 - 80
13.04.2009 - 81
06.04.2009 - 86

And that was just the beginning. ;)

Also cool to see: on the official ATP page Roger and Tommy are the two movers of the week. And although he said that doesn't mean much to him anymore: congrats for being the German no. 1 again.

Tommy fan
07-06-2009, 11:03 AM
Congrats Tommy :D

Sheepy
07-06-2009, 05:50 PM
Top 20! Congrats Tommy! :bounce:

here's the official confirmation! Hasi's No. 19 in the rankings now! :worship: please don't pull a "Marat" next year! :awww:

http://www.atpworldtour.com/Rankings/Singles.aspx

Quite :tape:

rica87
07-06-2009, 05:55 PM
Quite :tape:
:rolls:
sorry :angel::tape:

sundog
07-08-2009, 04:20 AM
Yikes! Don't even joke about that, rica! Quick, say Tommy is better than German chocolate cake as penance...LOL :D

shadows
07-08-2009, 01:26 PM
Awesome that he did make it back to the top 20 already! Next stop top 15, and then onwards ^_^

thefly
07-13-2009, 12:56 PM
Usually one spot up in tha ranking isn't that big a deal, but I guess in the top 20, every spot counts - Tommy's no. 18 as of this week.

What I find so interesting is the number of tournaments played in the time accountable for the ranking. Tommy has the lowest number, 17, of all players in the top 20, together only with Roger, also with 17. (For comparison, Simon (no. 7) has played 28 tournaments.) In the rest of the top 100, there's also not one player with less tournaments, only three others with 17 (Hewitt - 42, Moya - 52, Muller - 86).
Just a little number crunching ... ;)

rica87
07-13-2009, 03:53 PM
interesting numbers! :yeah: good for Tommy! every higher spot is a good spot. :lol:
but they only count your best 18 tournaments (plus Masters Cup) anyway. ;) so Simon has 9 tournaments which are non-countable tournaments. but it's a wonderful accomplishment for Tommy to be a top20 player without utilizing the number of countable tournaments. so there's still room for more! go, Tommy!

thefly
07-13-2009, 05:42 PM
Still - more tries, more opportunities to get deep. ;)

Tommy indeed has only 14 countable tournaments which yield any points, and one with only 10. So there's indeed a lot room. :)

<Eve>
07-14-2009, 10:28 PM
yeah # 18 is great :yippee:

sundog
07-15-2009, 04:49 AM
I noticed that, too, about Tommy's 17 tournaments and thought it was great he was ranked so high having the least number of tourneys (other than RF). But I didn't know he only has 14 countable tourneys. That's awesome! Think he'll make it into the top 10 by year end?

Lugburz
07-15-2009, 07:42 PM
that would be great sundog,except the usual suspect tours ,I'm very looking forward to those missed tours last year after the USO. :devil:

16681
07-21-2009, 08:24 PM
Well as of 7/20/09 according to the ATP Site Tommy is ranked #20 :yippee: That is a pick up of 16 positions :woohoo: I can't believe earlier this year Tommy was talking about retirement and look at him now :D Gee I missed Tommy's earlier rankings when he was actually inside the Top Twenty :sad: But I'm sure he will be back in the Top Twenty again :D

thefly
07-21-2009, 10:30 PM
Actually he dropped two positions from 18 because he lost his Indy points from last year. :)

16681
07-26-2009, 06:08 AM
Actually he dropped two positions from 18 because he lost his Indy points from last year. :)
The tennis ranking system is something I just can't keep up with so I just read on the ATP Site where Tommy is currently ranked. I had no idea what his points were from Indy last year :rolleyes: But I don't believe since Tommy was having health problems last year that he could have many points that he needs to defend :unsure:
Lets just have the health problems stay away please :angel: ;)

16681
08-05-2009, 12:22 AM
Well Tommy as of 8/03/09 is now down to #23 according to the ATP site :sad:

sundog
08-05-2009, 05:09 AM
At least he got points for LA this year, which he didn't get last year. Hopefully he'll defend his SF points from Wash DC last year, maybe even win the thing. C'mon Tommy! :D

el tenista
08-05-2009, 05:52 AM
Well Tommy as of 8/03/09 is now down to #23 according to the ATP site :sad:

No need to cry. He lost all his points from last years masters in Montreal and Cincy. So right now, the only points he has to defend are his Washington points and the USO points which seems to be quite manageable ;)

thefly
08-05-2009, 10:55 AM
Well, to defend the 150 points from last year's Washington he has to reach the semis again, which are still two wins away ... but as of next week, there's only one way, and that is up. ;)

el tenista
08-05-2009, 03:36 PM
Well, to defend the 150 points from last year's Washington he has to reach the semis again, which are still two wins away ... but as of next week, there's only one way, and that is up. ;)

The points of last year's tournament in Washington will come off on August 17. So he has no points to defend this week but next week! ;)

thefly
08-05-2009, 04:30 PM
Which points are to be defended at what time is a technicality, anyway, isn't it? ;) If he can gain enough points this week, then the following two weeks are already on the plus side ...

But enough of that stuff. As long as Tommy is near or in the top 20 come US Open seeding (August 24), I don't care that much. :)

shadows
08-10-2009, 01:07 PM
back up to #20 this week ^^

thefly
08-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Yep, but last year's points from Washington will go bye-bye next week - so I guess I was kind of wrong, the "when" is not a complete technicality after all. ;)

Won't matter that much, of course, if Tommy pulls a surprise run in Montréal out of his hat. :)

Lugburz
08-15-2009, 12:11 PM
Tommy shall be within top15 by the end of the year,mark my words ;)

thefly
08-15-2009, 01:32 PM
He'll be 21 next week, and should be pretty secure around that spot for the rest of the year, so he certainly is in a good position to further rise ... a great USO run would already be all that is needed. ;)

el tenista
08-15-2009, 01:38 PM
He'll be 21 next week, and should be pretty secure around that spot for the rest of the year, so he certainly is in a good position to further rise ... a great USO run would already be all that is needed. ;)

The real great thing is that he has no points to defend @Shanghai and @Paris. With a good run in Cincy and especially at the USO, he'll be seeded in those two masters events and can improve his ranking position further and further...
If we have a look into the next season, there are no really important points to defend until Roland Garros. The AO points should Tommy defend with ease...

thefly
08-15-2009, 01:49 PM
Yep. :)

16681
10-15-2009, 11:23 PM
Well Tommy's ranking is holding steady to keep him in the Top Twenty for now at least. The ATP Site as of 10/12/09 shows him as being ranked #18 :)

thefly
10-19-2009, 09:43 PM
Tommy's climbed up to 17 now without really doing much. I like it. ;)

Ad Wim
10-20-2009, 01:22 PM
Nice. But because of this I would have liked him to play more tournaments, he could well be top 15 or higher! He has almost nothing to defend until Roland Garros! That's a very long period and if he stays fit he could well be top 10! He hasn't got 18 results yet so every result he makes will be added to his points. That's nice, but therefore he should really play more tournaments...

el tenista
10-20-2009, 04:01 PM
But even if he wins Stockholm, he will stay at No. 17 :o