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Who is the weakest link?

Darkheart
10-30-2003, 05:48 PM
Andre Agassi
Guillermo Coria
Roger Federer
Juan Carlos Ferrero
Carlos Moya
David Nalbandian
Andy Roddick
Rainer Schuettler

It's that time again. :p

Who is the weakest link? In other words, who will have the poorest round-robin record?

My pick is David Nalbandian because he might not be totally healthy.

EDIT:

The weakest link was Juan Carlos Ferrero. He was probably too tired after the long season.

Deboogle!.
10-30-2003, 05:52 PM
If David's not 100% but plays anyway, that's a possibility. It'd be easy to say Agassi since he just hasn't played since the USO but he's Agassi so you can't say that. Moya will depend on how his shoulder injury is and if he's back to 100%, and we have to assume that Federer and Ferrero won't/haven't reinjured the things that were bothering them. will be interesting, for sure!

Scotso
10-30-2003, 07:16 PM
Agassi.

Lindsayfan
10-30-2003, 10:15 PM
Schuettler.if Agassi comes to play,he's fit.if he isnt,he wont come.
neway I'm expecting some withdrawals..maybe Nalbandian and Agassi.

J. Corwin
10-30-2003, 11:05 PM
We might see Scud or Seb after all.

Deboogle!.
10-31-2003, 12:50 AM
why would Agassi pull out?

J. Corwin
10-31-2003, 03:37 AM
wife and daughter...wife and daughter

azza
10-31-2003, 04:25 AM
Moya

Wojtek
10-31-2003, 06:37 AM
Moya

WyverN
10-31-2003, 06:54 AM
I would be very surprised if Ferrero, Roddick or Federer dont win this.....the rest are either injured or not a serious threat

J. Corwin
10-31-2003, 08:12 AM
I wouldn't be shocked if Agassi wins it either. He loves the outdoor hardcourts and he has quite a nice record at Westside Club as well.

Springy
10-31-2003, 08:21 AM
moya

claudine140
10-31-2003, 09:16 AM
if Moya will be healthy he will be a serious threat, look at his results in the past, a final and two times a semifinal!!!! But his shoulder must be OK, than his serve will be Ok and than he is dangerous.

kfh_9118
10-31-2003, 11:50 AM
Rainer

star
10-31-2003, 08:35 PM
wife and daughter...wife and daughter


lol

Hope your face wasn't being slapped. :)

Ma. Estefania
10-31-2003, 09:44 PM
I think that Moyá. He hasn't done anything GREAT in the last months, specially after the claycourt season. I think that he has even suffered some surprising early losses as in Madrid if I'm not wrong.....

J. Corwin
10-31-2003, 11:27 PM
lol

Hope your face wasn't being slapped. :)

'twas not. :)

Jorge
11-01-2003, 02:28 AM
Nalbandián, if he plays

Ruski
11-01-2003, 10:31 AM
I'll say Moya or Nalbandian..... :o

I don't think Agassi will withdraw... coz' its such a great honour to qualify into this Year End Masters Cup.... If he is healthy, he should play!!!! And besides, we need to see all four Grand Slam champions in this Masters Cup!!! :)

propi
11-01-2003, 01:01 PM
Coria but will have much more opportunities in the future for sure :worship:

sam
11-01-2003, 03:20 PM
Moya. I'm suprised he even qualified, his backhand is so weak.
:mad: @ everyone who said Rainer.

usawildcat929
11-01-2003, 04:52 PM
Moya, definately

Nymeria
11-01-2003, 06:15 PM
Schuettler or Moya

CmonAussie
11-01-2003, 07:07 PM
Ferrero, Federer, Coria, Nalbandian, Schuettler--->>All Weak Links by virtue of the fact that none of them have ever won an ATP tournament on American soil. It would be a big ask for any of them to win in US now at the end of a long-season when so much is at stake & the 5th most important title after the Slams.
Therefore The Contenders(for me) must be 1.Roddick, 2.Agassi,
3.Moya, 4.Philippoussis("alternate"-good chance of playing considering injuries to the Argentinians).

Prediction: FINAL~ Roddick beats Moya in 4sets.

Deboogle!.
11-01-2003, 09:41 PM
interesting perspective CmonAussie.

However, I don't think the location of the tournament can have that much of an effect so that those who've never won in the US before can be immediately put out of contention. I don't think Ferrero is someone you could EVER discount like that - too much of a fighter.

I think it's going to come down a lot to physical condition. Ferrero, Federer, Nalbandian (and also Philippoussis if he replaces him), Coria, and Moya have all had injuries or illnesses lately that have been enough to cause them to pull out of a tournament or not play very well. Schuettler should be flat-out exhausted.

Now, assuming Coria's fever is better (which it should be), he should be ok. Agassi hasn't played since September and assuming he's been practicing he should be fine, because he's Andre and he plays to win. Andy is physically healthy as far as I know, but could be tired. So as far as I'm concerned, not one of them will come in at anywhere near 100% (as to be expected at a tournament at the end of an 11-month season!). It could very well come down to who's the LEAST exhausted.

On a lesser note, weather could play a role. Today it is warm and sunny and beautiful here in Houston but it can just as easily be 55ş and chilly this time of year - and the erratic climate in November in Houston could affect some players more than others. As could potential rain.

It's all panning out to be very interesting, that's a certainty at least!

Deboogle!.
11-01-2003, 09:53 PM
Found this great chart at the TMC site
http://www.masters-cup.com/oncourt/headtohead/2003.asp

If you're going by straight head-to-heads (which you shouldn't, I don't think, but anyway), Agassi should win since he has winning records against everyone but JCF and DN (who he's never played). The rest are sort of toss-ups. Interesting.

*Ljubica*
11-02-2003, 12:31 PM
Moya definately as he is carrying an injury and lacking match practice. Also, I saw Coria and Nalbandian playing in Basel last week - both were excellent considering their long break from tennis, but both were far from 100% fit. I know David will see a specialist next week for a scan on his wrist - if it is still troubling him, I doubt he will play as he won't want to risk further injury that may jeopardise next Season.

maratski
11-02-2003, 06:05 PM
rainer

Aleta4
11-02-2003, 06:59 PM
Moya, injury problems and lack of confidence *sigh*

Tricky_Forehand
11-02-2003, 07:37 PM
Moya. I'm suprised he even qualified, his backhand is so weak.
:mad: @ everyone who said Rainer.

My vote for the weakest link is actually Andre Agassi just because of the lack of match play. He didn't do very well in Shanghai last year either and I believe his only tournament previous to Shanghai had been the Masters Madrid.

I agree about the :mad: at those who pick Rainer. Maybe it's because he's one of my three picks to win the whole thing but I just don't see how he can be the weakest link of the 8. He's had time to rest (sort of) and he'll be ready to fight.

Also, it's nice to see that I'm not the only one to be thrilled that Andrei Pavel is back :dance:

TheBoiledEgg
11-03-2003, 01:50 PM
Carlos cos of injury and form

Rainer even if he plays 150% he has NO Hope

Yashirobai
11-03-2003, 02:06 PM
Coria.

ubrunjensen
11-03-2003, 02:31 PM
Difficult to pick just one weak link, but think that Moya, Schuettler & Nalbandian (if he plays) are somewhat less likely to succeed. Top three will all go for it, I presume, as they all really want that year-end top spot - I hope it'll be Ferrero, but think it'll be Roddick...Coria might have a sporting chance, but I don't really see him as the overall winner, and Agassi - well, always a threat, but hasn't played since US Open. And not getting any younger!

TheBoiledEgg
11-03-2003, 03:58 PM
Andre Agassi will also go crying home after losing his 1st two matches just as he did last yr :crying2: :lol: :haha:

Andre'sNo1Fan
11-03-2003, 04:04 PM
Whatever hater. I reclon Moya is, i dunno how he got here, but he hardly set the world on fire this yr. I just hope Fed can be drawn with DN and sort him out.

Ma. Estefania
11-03-2003, 10:21 PM
Andre Agassi will also go crying home after losing his 1st two matches just as he did last yr :crying2: :lol: :haha:

:rolls: I really hope so. :bounce:

Ma. Estefania
11-03-2003, 10:25 PM
Ferrero, Federer, Coria, Nalbandian, Schuettler--->>All Weak Links by virtue of the fact that none of them have ever won an ATP tournament on American soil.

Ferrero: Final at the US Open.
Federer: I think that he reached the final of Miami (I'm not sure if it was this year or past one)
Nalbandián: Semis at the US Open

Schuettler and Coria may be, but anyway as someone said before, the location means almost nothing, except on Davis Cup. :rolleyes:

MisterQ
11-03-2003, 11:48 PM
Seeing how many of the top players looked tired in Paris last week, it's possible that Agassi's time off could make him the freshest of the bunch. He usually doesn't take long to start hitting the ball well. But lack of match play could hurt him, or NOT! We'll see.

Clearly Federer, Ferrero and Roddick cannot be considered the weak link as 1, 2, 3, in the world.

Moya and Nalbandian are both such solid players. If David is fully recovered he will be dangerous.

I think Schuettler might be the weakest link. Excellent player, but he has no big weapons and it will be hard to overcome these top players with consistency. Coria also might also be a weak link on this surface.

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 12:34 AM
Schuettler and Coria may be, but anyway as someone said before, the location means almost nothing, except on Davis Cup. :rolleyes:

I don't think the location can hurt anyone, but I think it can help some people over others. Andy is 16-1 in Houston, he loves it here, he feels comfortable here, and that will help. Same with Agassi, he should feel comfortable too b/c he's had some good wins. So I don't think it would "hurt" anyone else, but it could give a mental comfort-level type edge to some over others. JMO

Tennis Fool
11-04-2003, 02:13 AM
If you're top 8, you're not a weak link.

Nobody gets my vote.

Experimentee
11-04-2003, 11:26 AM
I think Nalbandian if hes not healthy, but if he is then Schuettler.

heya
11-04-2003, 11:30 AM
Shittler is a weak link because he had injured-Safin & Ferreira in Grand Slams to help raise his
CR points. Then, he played a whole lot more events
to boost his rank.

claudine140
11-04-2003, 12:01 PM
If you're top 8, you're not a weak link.

Nobody gets my vote.

indeed, if you are in the top 8 nobody is a weak link. My hart is for carlos, but indeed, everybody is dangerous, and are strong if they are healthy.
So good luck to everybody, and let us hope it will be suspencly!!!

WyverN
11-04-2003, 12:34 PM
Just because you are top 8 does not mean you are not a weak link AMONG the top 8. It is all relative.

Yashirobai
11-04-2003, 01:32 PM
"Shittler is a weak link because he had injured-Safin & Ferreira in Grand Slams to help raise his
CR points. Then, he played a whole lot more events
to boost his rank."

Remember the ATP CR onlye lets you add the best 5 tournaments paartf from GS and TMS. It's not about playing a lot, which may help a little bit, it's about playing well, specially in the big moments.

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 04:02 PM
Agassi is ALREADY here in Houston, a week early. He's here to win I think. Can't say he's a weak link just b/c he hasn't played competitively in a few months.

J. Corwin
11-04-2003, 08:01 PM
Of course not.

*Ljubica*
11-04-2003, 09:04 PM
Agassi is ALREADY here in Houston, a week early. He's here to win I think. Can't say he's a weak link just b/c he hasn't played competitively in a few months.
I think they are all there to win, - I know Coria arrives tomorrow (Wednesday), - they all need to get acclimatised to the courts and the weather conditions so that they can give it their best shot!

Deboogle!.
11-04-2003, 10:11 PM
Of course they're all there to win - if not, what'd be the point of going? I only mentioned Agassi specifically because people were talking about him being the weakest one or even possibly pulling out.