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Vince Spadea's new book!

Devotee
12-09-2005, 02:16 AM
from TENNIS WEEK :


Break Point: The Secret Diary of a Pro Tennis Player


http://www.sportsmediainc.net/tennisweek/SpadeaMiamiFMullane.jpg
Photo By Fred Mullane By Vince Spadea and Dan Markowitz
12/08/2005

Editor's Note: Veteran Vince Spadea has collaborated with Tennis Week contributing writer Dan Markowitz to write a behind-the-scenes look at life on the ATP Tour. Titled "Break Point: The Secret Diary Of A Pro Tennis Player", the book will be released in either the spring or early summer of 2006.


The strong-willed Spadea has spent his career saying, rapping and achieving the unthinkable. Rebounding from a record 21-match losing streak that saw his 2000 year-end ranking plummet to No. 229, Spadea made a strong comeback. In 2004, Spadea claimed his first ATP title in his 223rd career tournament in Scottsdale, posted a personal best 40-win season and concluded the season ranked a year-end best No. 19.

Currently ranked No. 76, Spadea is now working with former Wimbledon winner and Beverly Hills Hotel teaching pro Alex Olmedo in training for the 2006 season.

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For more information on the book, please visit Vince Spadea.com (http://www.vincespadea.com/)

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CooCooCachoo
12-09-2005, 10:04 AM
:haha:

Horatio Caine
12-09-2005, 01:18 PM
It won't be a "secret diary" for much longer then :tape:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

adee-gee
12-09-2005, 02:16 PM
Vinny :rocker2:

aceit
12-09-2005, 02:45 PM
That will become a quick classic.

Fergie
12-09-2005, 04:56 PM
:haha:

gusman890
12-09-2005, 05:46 PM
oh wonderful..

first watching him lose to lopez at the pilot pen in new haven, then him Saying he will be in the top 10, and now THIS?

i have no respect for this man. pro or not.

keep_er_lit!
12-09-2005, 05:57 PM
A literary masterpiece no doubt.

SwissMister1
12-09-2005, 06:19 PM
VINCENT>TENNIS.

Deboogle!.
12-09-2005, 06:29 PM
It's gonna win a Pulitzer :hearts:

*Ljubica*
12-09-2005, 06:41 PM
Anyone know if this literary masterpiece will be published outside of the States - as I would love to read it? :)

NicoFan
12-09-2005, 06:44 PM
Anyone know if this literary masterpiece will be published outside of the States - as I would love to read it? :)

;)

If they don't, I will gladly mail you my copy when I'm done. When school is done for the semester next Thursday, I may read it...I'll need a laugh. :angel:

*Ljubica*
12-09-2005, 06:48 PM
;)

If they don't, I will gladly mail you my copy when I'm done. When school is done for the semester next Thursday, I may read it...I'll need a laugh. :angel:

Thanks - that would be great :)

NicoFan
12-09-2005, 06:52 PM
Oh wait...saw that it wasn't coming out until the spring or summer.

We'll just have to wait to hear all of Vince's "secrets".

*Ljubica*
12-09-2005, 06:56 PM
Oh wait...saw that it wasn't coming out until the spring or summer.

We'll just have to wait to hear all of Vince's "secrets".

Somehow I can imagine what some of them are :rolleyes: - but I think it would be entertaining to read.

ae wowww
12-09-2005, 07:09 PM
Sweet, I think it will be interesting to read for sure. Vince is a great guy, and I am glad he is so enthusiastic about getting exposure and publicity for tennis. Gangster legend, see you in my sig Vincy!

Golfnduck
12-09-2005, 07:54 PM
OMG, I guess they'll let just about anyone write a book these day :rolleyes: Lord save us from Cousin Vinny

Scotso
12-09-2005, 08:31 PM
I want it.

cobalt60
12-09-2005, 09:04 PM
I want it.
You can have it ;)
But not until it is published next year

LaTenista
12-09-2005, 10:10 PM
:shrug: Can't be any worse than John McEnroe's. I've got an extra copy of it if anyone wants.

Deboogle!.
12-09-2005, 10:11 PM
:shrug: Can't be any worse than John McEnroe's. I've got an extra copy of it if anyone wants.Oh, sure it could be. At least Johnny Mac is smart ;)

*Ljubica*
12-09-2005, 10:12 PM
:shrug: Can't be any worse than John McEnroe's. I've got an extra copy of it if anyone wants.

Don't think John McEnroe's was that bad - I've got a copy of it myself somewhere!

NicoFan
12-09-2005, 10:21 PM
:shrug: Can't be any worse than John McEnroe's. I've got an extra copy of it if anyone wants.

I liked Johnny Mac's book - just thought he could have spiced it up a bit.

Not sure if I want to give Vince any of my hard earned money...but it might be good for a laugh. ;)

Deboogle!.
12-10-2005, 03:50 AM
Here's an interesting taste of what those who will read it can expect :lol:
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http://www.sportsmediainc.com/tennisweek/index.cfm?func=showarticle&newsid=14402&bannerregion=

April 6th ó New York City

I decide to take a trip to Manhattan for two days before flying to Monte Carlo to start the European clay court season. I talked to Jim Courier at the NASDAQ and he told me to call him ó Jim lives in Manhattan now ó and we could hit some balls. I fly into JFK Airport arriving on a morning flight and as soon as the plane hits the runway, I take out my cell phone and call Tennisport, an indoor-outdoor tennis club in Queens where Courier and this guy named John McEnroe, practice to stay in shape.

Courier told me the day before that he has go out of town for business but I could hit with the local pro, Alex Asta, who was a Challenger player a few years back. So I talked to Alex and we agreed to play one hour later. I get my four bags at the baggage claim (my backpack, tennis racket bag, and two duffle bags). Since Iím going to Europe for two months I packed a lot of clothes. On international flights itís annoying to carry so many bags because the customs officers always put you on the screening line and ask a million questions, like, "Why do you have so many tennis clothes? Are you selling them?" I always reply, "No, Iím a pro tennis player and I sweat a lot."

I hop into one of the famous yellow NYC cabs and instruct the guy to Tennisport. I change clothes quickly and we have a good workout. I jump another cab to the Paramount hotel in Manhattan in Times Square. The driver drops me off on Broadway and 46th Street, and throws my bags out onto the busy sidewalk with people scurrying all around.

As I go to pick up my first bag, a young teenage girl approaches me and says, "Can I have a picture taken with you?" I turn around and figure she wanted me to take a picture of her in Times Square, but then her mother walks up and says, "You're Vince Spadea, right?" I say "Yeah, that's right. Wow that's cool you recognize me. Letís take a picture".

I check into the hotel and call Paola, a Brazilian-American model I know from Florida, who is living off and on in New York working. Paula and I are just friends so far, but who knows what lies in the future. She's 19 and a girl who defies the word "flaw." She's a 5-foot-8 brunette beauty with brains. Uncharacteristic for a model, she exhibits a voluptuous rump region, too. We get together and have lunch, then go for a little shopping and story telling.

When I get out of the taxi I pay the driver, jump out in traffic, cross the street and put my hands in my pocket to feel for my wallet and itís not there.

"Paola, I just lost my wallet in that cab!" I say. Itís gone forever and Iím left with no money or credit cards and I'm leaving for Europe tomorrow. I apologize to Paola and tell her to go home as Iím going to be busy stressing. Then I beg the subway clerk to let me on for free because Iím macaroni and cheese broke. He relents and I arrive at my hotel to make phone calls to cancel everything. What a nightmare! Later, I call Alex Asta and set up my tennis practice for early tomorrow.

"Hey Vince," Alex says, "I'm going to hit with John McEnroe tomorrow. Why don't you two just hit instead." I said that sounds like a great plan. My brother-in-law, married to my sister, Luanne ó together they live in the city with their young son ó comes to my hotel and gives me plenty of cash for expenses. So the following morning I cab it out to Tennisport for the big practice with Mr. Manhattan.

I arrive a few minutes early to stretch and not long after the main entrance to the club opens and through the door steps a salt gray-haired man with a bag of tennis rackets in a backpack. He looks like an older man ready to go to school only with rackets and not books in his bag. He greets me with a confident smirk on his face, shaking hands in a manly arm-wrestling grip, like we've known each other for a while and have been through some great experiences together. Which is not the case, but I know John to be cool, frank, intelligent and opinionated. Yet he still comes off as generous and warm.

"What bring you to New York? A rap video?" he asks sarcastically as he likes to tease me about my rapping interests. I tell him Iím here to hit with him and he says, "You want to hit a few balls and grind? Iíll move you around and give you a good workout." I grin and say, "Sure man, bring it on. I'm going to hit the ball heavy today. Itís the clay court season."

He laughs and moves off into the locker room for a few minutes. We start off by hitting down the middle, but hitting in any fashion with John is intense. He goes for every ball, even if I hit the ball outside the lines. He's digging, coming to net, starting a new rally from any part of the court, hardly taking any breaks; itís non-stop hitting. He goes for a forehand, down-the-line winner and misses long, "No! Make that shot!" he bellows. But he says it with a smirk almost as if heís mocking his own famous reputation for being a perfectionist.

A few shots later he misses another and says, "Can someone tell me what I did wrong on that shot?" His comment is directed at the eight or so people who have gathered in the bleachers to watch us hit. They chuckle, but no one responds, as they assume correctly that itís purely a rhetorical question on Johnís part.

Does John McEnroe really want theirs or my thoughts on the state of his tennis game or is he just frustrated after missing a simple shot? You donít have to be Jim Loehr to come up with the right answer.

I can still see the competitiveness in his eyes. His footwork has slowed, but his will hasnít. His shots still have pace, depth and consistency. His volleys are crisp, effortless and efficient, though he misses more than he used to. Even so, his reflexes are still second to none. Iím hitting fierce heavy- spinning ground strokes in a grunting tireless mode and he could have a Pina Colada in one hand as he easily responds to my shots at his body without a flinch. His volleys cut into the court with minimal bounce and hurry away from me as if Iím trying to run them down on a treadmill.

His serve is as accurate and consistent as ever. His classic stance, with his back facing me as he manipulates his left arm and slices his serve out wider and wider into the service box, gives me a dťjŗ vu feeling of watching the video tape of his brilliant 1980 Wimbledon Finals match against Borg.

John floats into the net smiling as he swats one of my duck-like, returns away with an angled volley that paints the lines. Thirteen years after his last year on tour, I still can't get a lob over his racquet ó McEnroe was famous for his lightening first step when scooting back for an overhead. His conditioning is at a high level especially for someone 46-years-old. His running out wide for balls isn't vintage anymore, but somethingís got to give.

Heís generous and helpful with tips as we play, complimenting meósaying, "nice shot" ó on my winners. On our water breaks we talk about tennis in general. I ask him, "How many majors will Federer win? Will he beat Samprasí record of 14?" Mac responds, "If he stays healthy, he can win 10 maybe 11."

Interesting, Johnny Mac doesn't think Federer can break the record, but he does think highly of him. "Ten ainít too shabby if he stays healthy," he says again. I ask him about his television talk show, The John McEnroe Show on CNBC, that was cancelled at the beginning of the year not even six months after it debut on July 4, 2004. He says the problem was that he had sat through thousands of interviews, but he had been the person receiving the questions and responding. He had never been in the position of asking the questions and listening for the responses. He says that he was just getting the hang of it when they canned him and the show.

"Maybe I should have had you rapping on the show," McEnroe says.

"You know, that would have changed your ratings, John," I say. Actually, the producer for his show came to the 2004 U.S. Open looking for possible guests and I told my agent to try to get me on the show, but his producer said they were only looking for semifinalists or better. That was low, and guess what? Now thereís no more show. Because John wasnít the CEO of flow. Iíve got more dough. My nameís Edgar Allan Poe.

"Hey John," I ask him in all seriousness, "How can I develop a big weapon at the age of 30?"

He doesnít hesitate in responding, "You're better off honing what you have. Consistency is rare in todayís game. But go ahead, try to prove me wrong. You already did by coming back from your losing streak and making a great comeback. The youngsters can learn from that."

Itís uplifting to hear praise for my game coming from such a legend. After about 45 minutes of hitting, he says, "Letís play a game to 21, alternating five serves each." We played points and Mac invited Alex to join him, with them playing alternate points against me. After I win a point on Johnís error, he gives us a classic Nasty McMac flashback by furiously striking a ball into the fence and saying, "Come on, that's ridiculous."

As the game gets more intense, and he becomes more involved and competitive, he viciously hits a ball into the stands after losing another point. I turn away like Iím not involved and walk around looking for a ball to pick up. I donít ask and I donít pursue why heís getting so upset. What am I going to say to him, "Why are you hitting a ball into the stands and throwing your racquet, John? Youíre 46-years-old, brother. Whatís the deal? Címon, get with the program now. Letís finish the game and then you go back home. Youíve got kids to feed. You cannot be serious, John."

I donít think thatís the right approachóand besides while I can write this now for humorís sake ó I would never have the guts to walk up to the net and mention it to him face to face.

Itís all good in the end. He smiles joyfully and we thank each other for the workout. John doesn't let his anger affect the overall tempo of the day, just in the heat of playing the points he loses it a little. But as we close our racket bags, heís an uplifting, jovial guy who looks like he really and truly enjoyed himself, no matter the result of the games (I won the first 21-point game, but he and Alex edged me out in the second, 21-19).

I was off to the city a wiser man after sharing a priceless experience that I can remember fondly and learn from. If I had to choose between either having my wallet back or this chance to hit with John McEnroe, Iíd choose the latter anytime.

The lost wallet caper had a good ending to it, too. A guy named Mark found it in the taxicab and opened it up and discovered a receipt from the Dean & DeLuca located in the Paramount Hotel. He returned it to me with all the cash and credit cards still in it.

Federerthebest
12-10-2005, 04:03 AM
Great, I can't wait to read about the day-to-day minutiae of Vince Spadea's life


:rolleyes:

mangoes
12-10-2005, 07:18 AM
For a second, I thought this was just a joke................. :lol: Well, CHEERS, to Vince........ :lol: :lol:

buddyholly
12-10-2005, 07:46 AM
It's written in the present tense, like a bad porn novel - without the porn. Vince had better do better than that.

ae wowww
12-10-2005, 09:18 AM
I love it :D!

*Ljubica*
12-10-2005, 11:59 AM
Thanks for posting that Debstah :)

cobalt60
12-10-2005, 12:59 PM
Thanks Deb- Vinnie's the man- of the book it seems

superpinkone37
12-10-2005, 05:52 PM
oMg, I cAnT wAiT fOr hIs bOoK tO cOmE oUt!!!111 ;)

Some of the writing sounds kind of awkward, but I guess I would get used to it if I read the book. And hey, no one can pick on McEnroe's book..I liked it :awww:

Experimentee
12-11-2005, 12:44 PM
That excerpt was so boring :yawn:

mojo37_12
12-11-2005, 12:52 PM
That excerpt was so boring :yawn:

Oh don't worry... it gets better!

We'll get to read about his affair with Mardy Fish and how he got tag teamed by the Bryans hahaha!

enqvistfan
12-11-2005, 06:18 PM
Can't wait to read it :)

cincy
12-14-2005, 09:38 PM
Oh don't worry... it gets better!

No it doesn't. :rolleyes: That was the BEST part of the book. :eek: Sorry!!

I'll wait until I can get it for 50 cents, which is the price I paid for Mac's book . . . and it was worth every penny!!! :haha:

Saumon
12-14-2005, 09:43 PM
50 cent for vinny's (aka p diddy's best friend for life) book... hmm it makes sense :p ;)

enqvistfan
08-28-2006, 07:35 PM
I received this morning, Vince's book and started to read the first chapter. Vince should write the atp blog someday cause he says funny things.

The first chapter was mainly about Andre Agassi, the MS Madrid in 2004, a girl he met in Madrid (a hair dresser) etc..

Some sentences, very nice for the girls :lol: :lol:

"Another player once told me that the players' lounge can serve as a gauge for how attractive a female is. For example, if you think a girl's pretty, is she so pretty that you would bring her to the player's lounge where all the players can scrutinize your conquest ? It sounds crazy bt players are competitive from A to Z & we are constrantly thinking about our opponents - even how attractive their girlfriends or wives are"

"tennis stars are not like rock stars but depending on the player and his personal motivation, whether you want to call them groupies, roadies, female acquaintances, or camp followers, there is an overabundance of fond female fans and ample opportunity to score off the court"

Any has ever read his book ? And, what did you think ?

Arodfan15
08-28-2006, 09:03 PM
is andy roddick in it??

El Legenda
08-28-2006, 09:07 PM
i would rather watch paint dry before i would buy this crap.

DDrago2
08-28-2006, 09:51 PM
"It sounds crazy bt players are competitive from A to Z & we are constrantly thinking about our opponents - even how attractive their girlfriends or wives are"

Now I understand why other players are not that irritated with Federer's dominance on court

cincy
08-28-2006, 10:30 PM
"tennis stars are not like rock stars but depending on the player and his personal motivation, whether you want to call them groupies, roadies, female acquaintances, or camp followers, there is an overabundance of fond female fans and ample opportunity to score off the court"

I would imagine Vinny would get the leftovers since he's not exactly a star. :rolleyes:

even how attractive their girlfriends or wives are"

I seriously doubt a player would care how another players significant other looks. Why would they? :confused:

i would rather watch paint dry before i would buy this crap.

I think paint drying would be far more interesting than reading something written by a journeyman tennis player who thinks he's a rapper. :rolleyes:

I once watched a 30 minute show on the Tennis Channel called "No Strings" where a player is followed around for a day. They did a show on Vince Spadea. After watching it, I felt sorry for the fool!!! He is beyond pathetic, bordering on psychotic!!! The boy needs help . . . really . . . and quickly. I expect him to take an AK-47 to the locker room one day and kill everybody there. He's totally nuts.

On that show, he, out of the blue, walked up to a Black lady who was minding her business, waiting for a bus, and Vinny started rapping to her!!! :eek: The poor woman looked like she wanted to run as fast as she could. It was horrifying.

Vince Spadea is a total KOOK!! Why on earth would anybody want to read anything he's written??

binkygirl
08-29-2006, 02:35 AM
Vince is a bit odd. After he lost in single and doubles at the LA tournament, he was on the grounds practicing and he had his hair in tiny braids with rubber bands at the end. I should have taken a photo. I have no idea of why he was wearing that hairdo, maybe it was for a rap photo shoot.

WhataQT
08-29-2006, 03:48 PM
SPADEA BOOK BLISTERS BLAKE
By MARC BERMAN

August 29, 2006 -- U.S. OPEN NOTEBOOK
The forever flaky Vince Spadea has ticked off players on the men's circuit, including James Blake, for his new book - Breaking Point, The Secret Diary of A Pro Tennis Player.

Spadea will frequently put his name down on the practice sheet and the other slot will go unsigned.

"We're having a hard time finding practice partners and doubles partners," Spadea's coach John Skelly told The Post. "So one time we wrote in Paris Hilton."

Co-authored by Dan Markowitz, Spadea depicts Blake as not the nice guy everyone thinks, and he tears apart Blake's game. Blake said Spadea "crossed the line."

Spadea told The Post yesterday, "That's a political statement that holds no value. I don't know what that code is. Is it written down?"

A self-described single surfer dude from California, Spadea also writes about his womanizing on the tour. "There's some romantic endeavors - women count for 50 percent of the population, so I've run into some things on the tour besides tennis balls," Spadea said.

In his book, Spadea penned, "You hit it deep to Blake's backhand, he's not going hurt you, his serve also lets him down. There are always one or two service games a match he just folds or double-faults . . . Blake's forehand is not correct with his geometry. If you ask an expert, there's no way in the world he's going to tell you that Blake's forehand is rock solid."

Spadea and Blake had a falling out in Vienna in 2002 when Blake accused him of stalling when he took a bathroom break.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/spadea_book_blisters_blake_sports_marc_berman.htm

supersexynadal
08-29-2006, 04:01 PM
wow i thought they were great friends. WHat happened between?? i never heard that story

ShimSham
08-29-2006, 05:04 PM
wow i thought they were great friends. WHat happened between?? i never heard that story

:eek:
I too am very surprised to hear of a dispute. I was under the impression the Americans were all best buddies. I would love to hear what happened between them in 2002.

cincy
08-29-2006, 05:31 PM
I too am very surprised to hear of a dispute. I was under the impression the Americans were all best buddies. I would love to hear what happened between them in 2002.

What's the surprise? :confused: Spadea is not friends with anybody. He is evidently jealous of all the other Americans who are close with each other.

I have issues with Spadea critizing Blake's game. What nerve. James is in the the top 10. Where is Vinny??? :rolleyes:

prima donna
08-29-2006, 05:35 PM
Hahaha, what's he have to say about Andre and Roger ?

martinatreue
08-29-2006, 05:36 PM
Blake is a phony. He is not a nice guy! Spadea is a kook too though. Blake acts like a petulant child when losing and tries to put on a macho show to intimidate guys. Yes, we are constantly told what to think (namely, that he is so nice). I am not buying it for one second.

mishar
08-29-2006, 06:03 PM
God, it's absurd. James gets criticized for being stoic (and "not caring") when he loses and then he gets criticized for being a "petulant loser."

Whatever. People will think what they want.

Johnny Groove
08-29-2006, 06:10 PM
Vinnay Ice is obviously just trying to get some attention. Whether it is negative, he doesnt care. Spadea aint afraid a ya!

Deboogle!.
08-29-2006, 06:27 PM
Can't really blame some players for getting upset. as Wertheim said on USA earlier, James and a lot of these guys have a "what happens in the locker room stays in the locker room" mentality, and to have someone bust that and brodacast stuff is understandably frustrating. Blake is a phony. He is not a nice guy!You know this how? I've seen him off court at tournaments many times and he's one of the most fan-friendly players I've seen. I remember, in fact, one of the first times I saw him, he lost to Spadea in Scottsdale in 2004 and it was a tough match and a painful loss for James, but he was cordial and gracious and signed all kinds of autographs right after the match. He's not perfect, everyone has their moments that they're not proud of but I've never seen James do anything at all that leads me to believe he's any kind of phony or that he's not a great person :shrug:

As for Vinnay's book, I have absolutely no desire to read it lol.

Gonzo Hates Me!
08-29-2006, 06:55 PM
Blake is a phony. He is not a nice guy! Spadea is a kook too though. Blake acts like a petulant child when losing and tries to put on a macho show to intimidate guys. Yes, we are constantly told what to think (namely, that he is so nice). I am not buying it for one second.

I can believe Blake is not a good person because I have had to work for him and he was not a nice person. Plus me and my friends went to a casual dinner with some players and they said Blake's squeaky clean image (as well as probably most players') is all PR. When you are a public figure, you're going to have a modified image to sell yourself.

I dunno why some fans don't want to believe that it is POSSIBLE that their favorite player is not perfect. They are humans... and humans come in "nice" and "not so nice." I mean, my favorite player, when I met him, wasn't very nice to me, but I don't give a shit because I am a fan of what I know of him on the tennis court. It ends there. Why does who they really are have to matter so much to people

I think it's dumb to write tell alls and stuff like that. Spadea is dumb for that. At the same time, God help fans who get so emotionally invested in believing the best of someone they'll never be best friends with. We are here to watch their tennis.

enqvistfan
08-29-2006, 07:18 PM
is andy roddick in it??

I read the second chapter and Roddick is mentionned, it's about the DC final in Spain, he didn't really appreciated that Fish played instead of him. Apparently, in the book, he wants to say bad things about many players.

I'm not a fan of Vince, it's just that I saw him many times in the tournaments, and with a friend, he made us laugh a lot, even if we think that he's a bit stupid. I remember that during the MS Bercy last year, we saw him with a baggy trousers, and a Guns n roses t-shirt, I think he was going to the Starbucks (a place he likes apparently), and we laughed a lot :lol: And, I like reading players bios, I read the one of the former French player, Nathalie Tauziat, even if I didn't like the player, I liked the book a lot. It's always interesting. I don't read that book seriously.

Arodfan15
08-29-2006, 08:01 PM
oo what did he say about Roddick??

rexman
08-30-2006, 01:12 AM
They mentioned on TV today that he made some remarks in it about Blak and PMac, can anyone enlighten me?

Fee
08-30-2006, 01:18 AM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84640

Fedex
08-30-2006, 02:16 AM
I'd staple gun my head before I read this garbage.

Scotso
08-30-2006, 03:56 AM
Vince's eccentricities is exactly why this book should be good. :shrug: I ordered it and can't wait to read it.

I also hate how Blake acts when he's losing. Poor sport.

Kip
08-30-2006, 04:42 AM
I would imagine Vinny would get the leftovers since he's not exactly a star. :rolleyes:



I seriously doubt a player would care how another players significant other looks. Why would they? :confused:



I think paint drying would be far more interesting than reading something written by a journeyman tennis player who thinks he's a rapper. :rolleyes:


Vince Spadea is a total KOOK!! Why on earth would anybody want to read anything he's written??
He's obviously doing enough to
get your attention, no? ;)

Vince is doing nothing but stating opinions
and some facts of tour life, wheather you or
anyone else likes it or not.

And as for talking about "significant others",
men & women talking with their group of girls and guys
talk about such things, always have. Not saying everyone
in the lockeroom is involved but it's no secret it happens.
From Junior Highschool on.

The book is Vince's account and it's rather interesting.
If some do not like it, no one is forcing them to care
or even acknowledge it.

Wannabeknowitall
08-30-2006, 05:48 AM
I read the second chapter and Roddick is mentionned, it's about the DC final in Spain, he didn't really appreciated that Fish played instead of him. Apparently, in the book, he wants to say bad things about many players.



He's the best clay player of the Americans outside of Roddick. He should have played.

Leo
08-30-2006, 05:51 AM
I can't wait to read Vincie's crap! He's unleashing all the dirt without a doubt.

I went right up to Spadea at USO qualies and he was signing autographs while looking like his usual pimp self, on the cell phone, smacking bubble gum, crazy striped orange shirt, etc.

Sparko1030
08-30-2006, 06:22 AM
I can believe Blake is not a good person because I have had to work for him and he was not a nice person. Plus me and my friends went to a casual dinner with some players and they said Blake's squeaky clean image (as well as probably most players') is all PR. When you are a public figure, you're going to have a modified image to sell yourself.

I dunno why some fans don't want to believe that it is POSSIBLE that their favorite player is not perfect. They are humans... and humans come in "nice" and "not so nice." I mean, my favorite player, when I met him, wasn't very nice to me, but I don't give a shit because I am a fan of what I know of him on the tennis court. It ends there. Why does who they really are have to matter so much to people

I think it's dumb to write tell alls and stuff like that. Spadea is dumb for that. At the same time, God help fans who get so emotionally invested in believing the best of someone they'll never be best friends with. We are here to watch their tennis.


:yeah:

Celebrity worship (in the US anyway) has gotten out of control. We seem to expect much better behavior from celebrities(film. music. sports stars) then we do from ourselves. Most are young, and making $ and have the world at they're feet. Our behavior tells them how important and wonderful they are and when they turn out to mere humans we cry foul. Well, except for having a particular talent, they are just as human as us and and we are bound to be dissapointed in them eventually. Let's keep our expectations realistic and find heros elsewhere while still enjoying their talent.

martinatreue
08-30-2006, 06:42 AM
Vince's eccentricities is exactly why this book should be good. :shrug: I ordered it and can't wait to read it.

I also hate how Blake acts when he's losing. Poor sport.

His true character comes out when he is losing or when is beating some guys badly and makes a point of rubbing it in with Sampras-esque showtimes smashes. :rolleyes: Luckily he tried that against Federer and saw the smash come back past him for a winner. :o :haha:

World Beater
08-30-2006, 07:44 AM
His true character comes out when he is losing or when is beating some guys badly and makes a point of rubbing it in with Sampras-esque showtimes smashes. :rolleyes: Luckily he tried that against Federer and saw the smash come back past him for a winner. :o :haha:

:haha:

gogogirl
08-31-2006, 04:24 PM
Hey All,

:eek: Anyone pick Vince Spadea's book up yet? He slams Blake and Pat McEnroe in it. What he writes about Blake's game - has been said before - so nothing new there. And he was upset that Mardy Fish was selected in 2004 over him for Davis Cup. But...................

Some are praising and slamming it. Below is some info on it.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/spadea_book_blisters_blake_sports_marc_berman.htm

http://www.johnfmurray.com/News.aspx?id=314

ShimSham
08-31-2006, 04:38 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84640

Tommy_Vercetti
08-31-2006, 05:19 PM
Doesn't he say that most of James Blake's public persona is fake or something?

As if that needs to be written down.

MurrayFan1
08-31-2006, 05:33 PM
A guy who loses 21 matches in a row slames Blake? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

gogogirl
08-31-2006, 07:04 PM
All,

My bad - I didn't look hard enough for a thread on this - but I did look.

Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion - tis true. I don't think J. B. is phony at all - but to each his or her own. Some could say the same about Vince the Rapper.

Some folks just don't like nice people and/or to be nice themselves. And at times and at the end of the day - they don't like themselves when they look in the mirror, because they are bitter and jealous about something all the time. I'm sure Blake loves himself - because if he doesn't who should he depend on to - other than his mother and brother? From reports, most all of the players in the locker room like and get along w/him. No one can like all of the people all of the time.

In all of the losses that I've seen of Blake's - I've never seen him act like a spoiled child or brat. He gets down on himself at times and that's on him. I've also never seen him be disrespectful towards another player or rub anything in. When talking about the leaping smashes - I think he learned it from Pete - and likes to employ it in his game at times. It would be great if he and others could win many a point like that.

Vince commented on others too besides Blake. All in all - I've read that it is an interesting book. But let's be real here. All of the players are individuals and may haps would have a different take on this or that. And all of them also has a book or two within. Wonder what some would write about good 'ole Vince?

Tommy_Vercetti
08-31-2006, 07:14 PM
Blake reminds me of Chris Byrd in boxing.

All they talked about is what a nice guy he was and all this, but in reality he was always making excuses and conspiracy theories for his losses and was in reality, a jerk-off.

tangerine_dream
08-31-2006, 07:41 PM
Vinnay Ice is obviously just trying to get some attention. Whether it is negative, he doesnt care. Spadea aint afraid a ya!
Vinny is just pissed that the band Binge is getting more airplay for their tennis songs (http://www.tennistunes.com) than he has gotten. :angel:

El Legenda
08-31-2006, 07:47 PM
its only matter of time before someone plays the race card with this Spadea/ Blake Issue

suus21
08-31-2006, 10:24 PM
what did he say about Agassi?

paper_chaser
09-01-2006, 12:05 AM
The other thead on this book has links to a couple of reviews that may explain Vince's animosity toward James.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84875

The second review talked about James accusing Vince of gamesmanship during a match. Also, Vince apparently took a model to a player's party only to lose her to James while he (Vince) went to the bathroom. :awww: :hug:
:haha: :haha:

Maybe that's why he's bitter.

I'd LOVE to read the book, but I'm still debating whether I want to spend the money.

binkygirl
09-01-2006, 02:28 AM
I can believe Blake is not a good person because I have had to work for him and he was not a nice person. Plus me and my friends went to a casual dinner with some players and they said Blake's squeaky clean image (as well as probably most players') is all PR. When you are a public figure, you're going to have a modified image to sell yourself.

I dunno why some fans don't want to believe that it is POSSIBLE that their favorite player is not perfect. They are humans... and humans come in "nice" and "not so nice." I mean, my favorite player, when I met him, wasn't very nice to me, but I don't give a shit because I am a fan of what I know of him on the tennis court. It ends there. Why does who they really are have to matter so much to people

I think it's dumb to write tell alls and stuff like that. Spadea is dumb for that. At the same time, God help fans who get so emotionally invested in believing the best of someone they'll never be best friends with. We are here to watch their tennis.

Can you dish on what Blake did? I saw James cuss out Norm Chryst after a doubles match in LA last year and had someone who wasn't there saying it didn't happen. Pro players are human and have different sides to their personality. I asked Vince when his book was coming out after he lost his doubles match and he said,"I don't know.", in a sullen voice. How mature.

Scotso
09-01-2006, 03:17 AM
Can you dish on what Blake did? I saw James cuss out Norm Chryst after a doubles match in LA last year and had someone who wasn't there saying it didn't happen. Pro players are human and have different sides to their personality. I asked Vince when his book was coming out after he lost his doubles match and he said,"I don't know.", in a sullen voice. How mature.

Everyone knows and accepts that Vince is a jerk ;) but people seem to refuse to believe it about James, etc.

J.Capriati.Fan
09-02-2006, 09:51 PM
I read somewhere that he also wrote something about Jennifer Capriati - can anyone tell me exactly what he said? :) Thanks a lot :)

tangerine_dream
09-03-2006, 01:04 AM
The NYT blog has some dirt of its own on Vinnay :lol:

Vince Violates "the Code"
By Michael Kimmelman
September 2, 2006, 12:58 pm

Like all subcultures, tennis players form cliques. There are guys the other guys privately like and respect, like Federer, funny guys like Roddick and Safin. Then there are guys like Vince Spadea. :lol:

Yesterday in the cold and gathering wind on Court 11, Spadea, the 32-year-old American, battled another veteran, the 34-year-old Swede Jonas Bjorkman. Itís a sure bet that in the playersí lounge, sentiment was squarely with Bjorkman, a nice fellow, once a top 10 player now ranked No. 35. :yeah:

Spadeaís new book "Break Point," has endeared him to no one in particular. He sulks that Agassi once called him a journeyman. He complains that Patrick McEnroe left him off the Davis Cup team. He accuses James Blake of trash talking. Blake has responded by saying that he thinks Spadea violated a code of the locker room, which is akin to the Vegas motto: what happens there, stays there.

None of the guys signed up to play doubles with him here. :lol:

You can get a sense of Spadea from the five-point plan for hooking up with women that he serves male readers. Men with shorter hair, he instructs, should use gel "to create an Elvis or Brad Pitt appearance." Jeans are "essential." Chewing gum "makes you look happier and more confident." (Trident or Bubblicious?)

And "donít be afraid to approach her," he adds. "I look at every girl and think, 'I might get sick of this girl at some point, so why should I be afraid of her now?'"

Hawking his book, and in the tunnel under Ashe Stadium, Spadea has the grinning, puffed-chest manner of a wiseguy. Against Bjorkman on court, he dresses in red (itís the new tennis white this year). His oversized shirt and hat (he fashions himself a rapster) have an "S" insignia. Once ranked No. 18, now 84th, heís got game, without special weapons. Bjorkman is seeded No. 29, and heís fun to watch, an all-court player, adept at doubles (he won the French Open doubles this year, his ninth Grand Slam doubles title).

But against Spadea, he fumbles big points, converting only 3 of 14 break chances. His serve has no pop, the consequence of a bad back.

Spadea finishes him off in straight sets, Bjorkman barely shaking hands before huddling with the chair umpire while Spadea, pointing to his chest, preens before the fans who have stuck out the wind, which blows cups and plastic bags through the air.

Later, showered and charming, Bjorkman obeys the Vegas rule. Book? he says, straightfaced. What book?

Spadea "doesn't spend too much time with anyone," he allows, so he can't have much to dish. "What is it, two pages?" :spit:

About the locker room code, he says he agrees with Blake. "Yeah, why should you go out [in public] with something that doesnít belong to you."

So justice will have to wait. One more round.

Spadeaís next opponent:

Roger Federer. :devil:

Tennis Fool
09-03-2006, 01:11 AM
What's a rapster :lol: Anyway, I might just have to borrow that book for the laughs. I don't think it's bad for Vinny Ice to have a book--hell, JMac had one, Becker, Natalie, Monica, etc. And I wouldn't be surprised that others will say--if Vinny Ice can have a book, why can't I?

Corey Feldman
09-03-2006, 01:32 AM
Id like to read this book, been hearing alot about it...
if the player #479 in the world released some good info about the tour, id read it.

Pat Cash' released a good book a few years ago as well.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-03-2006, 01:34 AM
Yeah, god forbid someone shine the light on James Blake's fake public persona or talk about some of the negative things about other players.

I also love the little "wiseguy" mafia reference to Italian Vince which no doubt will raise no eyebrows.

I'd like to see the reaction to a snide reporter saying that Blake looked like a gang banger.

Corey Feldman
09-03-2006, 01:45 AM
Tommy_Vercetti :yeah: i love him, and Vice city is the all time greatest game :yeah:

from another source:

Andy Roddick ó Spadea explains why he believes Roddick's game has declined a bit since the former No. 1 split with Brad Gilbert. Spadea also recounts the time he and Roddick squired two models to late-night clubs in Australia and how the models responded when Roddick offered to fly them back to South Florida.

Rafael Nadal ó Spadea, who has split two career matches with the reigning Roland Garros champion, says he will be surprised if Nadal matches Jim Courier's feat of winning four Grand Slam titles.

embellish
09-03-2006, 01:56 AM
It's a bit scary. I flicked through it at the bookshop and he seems to rap after every chapter

dmit424
09-03-2006, 03:01 AM
Now I understand why other players are not that irritated with Federer's dominance on court

:lol:

maltose
09-03-2006, 03:06 AM
It's a bit scary. I flicked through it at the bookshop and he seems to rap after every chapter
Whoa. Will it be coming out as an audiobook as well?

Pureracket
09-03-2006, 03:40 AM
its only matter of time before someone plays the race card with this Spadea/ Blake IssueYea. . .it looks like someone did it in post #29 in this thread already.

dmit424
09-03-2006, 03:51 AM
Spadea can say as he pleases in his book, and I'm not a Blake fan (I know... I'm not an Agassi fan, I'm not a Blake fan, what the hell is wrong with me...), but Vince is just humiliating himself by not taking tennis seriously whatsoever and then writing a book like this. Again, Vince Spadea can do as he please... However, the fact of the matter is that Vince Spadea would not be writing controversial books if Vince Spadea was a half-decent tennis player.

dmit424
09-03-2006, 03:54 AM
Yea. . .it looks like someone did it in post #29 in this thread already.


He played it as much as you did... Which isn't playing it.

L James
09-03-2006, 03:58 AM
What did Spadea say exactly about Blake not being a nice guy?

dmit424
09-03-2006, 03:59 AM
What did Spadea say exactly about Blake not being a nice guy?


Hey, I've been waiting to talk to you. Couldn't you lead your team past Greece?!

JW10S
09-03-2006, 04:04 AM
Spadea can say as he pleases in his book, and I'm not a Blake fan (I know... I'm not an Agassi fan, I'm not a Blake fan, what the hell is wrong with me...), but Vince is just humiliating himself by not taking tennis seriously whatsoever and then writing a book like this. Again, Vince Spadea can do as he please... However, the fact of the matter is that Vince Spadea would not be writing controversial books if Vince Spadea was a half-decent tennis player.

True. The rantings of a journeyman pro do not interest me at all. I read an excerpt where he criticized Blake's game. Now there is just something wrong about a guy who lost as many consecutive 1st round matches as Spadea did knocking another players game. And I don't buy for a second all his alleged womanizing BS.

federated
09-03-2006, 04:23 AM
You can get a sense of Spadea from the five-point plan for hooking up with women that he serves male readers. Men with shorter hair, he instructs, should use gel "to create an Elvis or Brad Pitt appearance." Jeans are "essential." Chewing gum "makes you look happier and more confident." (Trident or Bubblicious?)

And "donít be afraid to approach her," he adds. "I look at every girl and think, 'I might get sick of this girl at some point, so why should I be afraid of her now?'"

wow, what a complete tool.

Deboogle!.
09-03-2006, 04:40 AM
True. The rantings of a journeyman pro do not interest me at all. I read an excerpt where he criticized Blake's game. Now there is just something wrong about a guy who lost as many consecutive 1st round matches as Spadea did knocking another players game. And I don't buy for a second all his alleged womanizing BS.point taken, but in this PARTICULAR instance, it might be fair? http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=Blake%2C+James&player2=spadea

Anyway, I never liked Vinny much, but he's just making himself look like a total idiot.

dmit424
09-03-2006, 04:45 AM
point taken, but in this PARTICULAR instance, it might be fair? http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=Blake%2C+James&player2=spadea

Anyway, I never liked Vinny much, but he's just making himself look like a total idiot.


Omygoodness. 1-6, and all pretty recent, too. Well, then, I guess if you're Blake you can't say much beyond that your feelings seriously got hurt.

Deboogle!.
09-03-2006, 05:04 AM
Omygoodness. 1-6, and all pretty recent, too. Well, then, I guess if you're Blake you can't say much beyond that your feelings seriously got hurt.Well, none since James really started his run last year, the 2 in 2005 were just when he was starting to get back on track. But still, I do think Vinny is qualified to make judgments about James's game. Does it make him look good? That's another story :lol: And, I agree with James and the other players that spilling locker room stuff ain't cool. :shrug:

MarieS
09-03-2006, 05:39 AM
Well, none since James really started his run last year, the 2 in 2005 were just when he was starting to get back on track. But still, I do think Vinny is qualified to make judgments about James's game. Does it make him look good? That's another story :lol: And, I agree with James and the other players that spilling locker room stuff ain't cool. :shrug:
I still am not convinced that the H2H warrants that kind of crap about blake's game. He may be qualified to make an assessment of it, but he comes across as a complete idiot given the respective careers. And the geometry of it isn't right? What? How about the ALGEBRA of losing 21 matches in a row? Look, I know he's just trying to make a few bucks cuz that whole tennis thing didn't work out but it's still WEAK.

dmit424
09-03-2006, 05:53 AM
I still am not convinced that the H2H warrants that kind of crap about blake's game. He may be qualified to make an assessment of it, but he comes across as a complete idiot given the respective careers. And the geometry of it isn't right? What? How about the ALGEBRA of losing 21 matches in a row? Look, I know he's just trying to make a few bucks cuz that whole tennis thing didn't work out but it's still WEAK.


Lol, well said.

Deboogle!.
09-03-2006, 05:56 AM
Is anything of what Vinny does or says really "warranted?" I mean, look at the guy, listen to the guy, lol. :lol:

I don't think anyone cares what he said about James's game - even James. I mean, all the stuff James said in his press conference was in regards to the more personal aspects, he didn't say one word about the game comments. It's vinny, no one takes him seriously, I think the guys just aren't a fan of someone writing about the locker room stuff.

dmit424
09-03-2006, 05:59 AM
Well, none since James really started his run last year, the 2 in 2005 were just when he was starting to get back on track. But still, I do think Vinny is qualified to make judgments about James's game. Does it make him look good? That's another story :lol: And, I agree with James and the other players that spilling locker room stuff ain't cool. :shrug:


Hey, he's more qualified to make judgements than any poster is here :rolleyes:

Then again, maybe he's over -qualified, since he has inside info that the general public isn't supposed to have. For example, I can pass judgement from what is shown to me on TV, but if I knew that Nadal dressed up in a thong and rode ponies in the locker-room while yelling "VAMOS!" before every match, I wouldn't mention it in a book.

atheneglaukopis
09-03-2006, 06:02 AM
Moral of the story: Vinny goes to the bathroom when James is anywhere in the vicinity, Vinny loses.

Deboogle!.
09-03-2006, 06:06 AM
Then again, maybe he's over -qualified, since he has inside info that the general public isn't supposed to have. For example, I can pass judgement from what is shown to me on TV, but if I knew that Nadal dressed up in a thong and rode ponies in the locker-room while yelling "VAMOS!" before every match, I wouldn't mention it in a book.I mean, it's not that he CAN'T say that stuff, it's just that these guys seem to have a code of conduct so to speak, and it's just not cool when someone breaks it.

But I mean, as far as I've ever heard and understood, Vinny has already been somewhat of a poriah to the rest of the tour anyway. This will just serve to make it even worse lol.

I remember last year we were watching practices the Sunday before the LA tourney, and no one would talk to him. It was hilarious yet sad, but he seems to bring it upon himself.

As for the stuff with the ladies, anyone who's seen his TTC No Strings episode knows he's an absolute pig in that department.

Tommy_Vercetti
09-03-2006, 06:13 AM
That bathroom story is total bs.

That's exactly the kind of crap I'd expect to hear on message boards. That was the exact same story about Roddick and Lapentti I remember a couple years ago when people said Roddick took his groupie when he went to the bathroom.

It's just nonsense.

dmit424
09-03-2006, 06:16 AM
As for the stuff with the ladies, anyone who's seen his TTC No Strings episode knows he's an absolute pig in that department.


Yes.

Whistleway
09-03-2006, 07:07 AM
It looks very unfiltered and real stuff.

very interesting and has good reviews at amazon. very tempting to buy it..
http://www.amazon.com/Break-Point-Insiders-Tennis-Circuit/dp/1550227297/

enqvistfan
09-03-2006, 08:10 AM
Or the trigonometry of being a trash-talking journeyman? ;) :lol:

In reference to what Deb is saying, I'm getting the feeling that Spadea's attitude is probably: "Well, I'm a pariah/figure of fun anyway, why not embrace the role and milk as much publicity and money as I can out of it..." :o Considering how much attention Tursunov got with his blogging it's not a bad idea to make a book about life on the tour, but whereas Dima's point is to be funny/silly, Spadea's is to shock/trash-talk.

... Not that I spend my time psychoanalyzing Spadea or anything. :o

I think the book was already published before Tursunov's blog.

enqvistfan
09-03-2006, 08:14 AM
What did Spadea say exactly about Blake not being a nice guy?

In the part, I read yesterday, there was a problem because Vince arrived in a party with a girl (it was in Germany) and then, the girl decided to speak with James :lol: And, Vince didn't really appreciate as you can imagine :haha: At the moment, it's the only part when he mentions James, then, I'll have more details about the game.

Allez
09-03-2006, 08:16 AM
Spadea's attitude towards women is shocking :eek: Rogi please do everyone a favour and thrash this trash talker :smash:

Tommy_Vercetti
09-03-2006, 02:01 PM
His "attitude" is no different than most of the guys I know and many women for that matter.

buddyholly
09-03-2006, 02:25 PM
I smell Pulitzer!

Sunset of Age
09-03-2006, 02:39 PM
I hope Rogi kicks his ass! What. A. Moron.

enqvistfan
09-03-2006, 03:21 PM
Spadea's attitude towards women is shocking :eek: Rogi please do everyone a favour and thrash this trash talker :smash:

I think he's not the only player or the man to act like that

Sunset of Age
09-03-2006, 03:32 PM
I think he's not the only player or the man to act like that

No, alas. But it does give some ladies a run for their money (including me)!
Guys like that... should GROW UP.

scoobs
09-03-2006, 03:37 PM
Well I hope for Vinny's sake he does well out of the book and had fun writing it because, if he was unpopular before, he's likely to find it taken to new levels.

I hope he can put up with people going silent when they see him approaching him, not acknowledging him at all and hoping he retires as soon as possible. People are not going to want to say a thing in front of him, knowing that it could appear in a later edition of his book or a new book.

What a fool - everyone knows if you're going to do an expose of the tour, you do it like Tauziat and wait until you've retired.

Plus it sounds like he's bitter about Blake because

a) he has a winning h2h against him so he can legitimately pick on him
b) Blake has progressed from journeyman level to near the top, Spadea hasn't
c) perhaps they have had their problems in the past.

enqvistfan
09-03-2006, 03:44 PM
If you want to laugh a little bit :)
How to seduce women, according to Vince (the Da Vince Code) :lol:

cobalt60
09-03-2006, 03:48 PM
Well after reading the snippits posted here and also stuff from his co-writer on Tennis Week, I think I will pass on this book. There must be a reason why Vinnie can't get practice partners or even a good woman to stand by him ;)

Tommy_Vercetti
09-03-2006, 04:09 PM
I think there is one universal truth though.

Patrick McEnroe should not be the DC coach.

He was picking Blake when Blake was not even one of the top 10 Americans and really pissing off the other American players from some of the subtle comments. One example was not picking Vince for the final clay draw against Spain, that was ridiculous since he was playing so well on clay especially and that's just one example.

Vince has gotten to play DC one time and had to play Ferrero on clay in Spain years ago in 100 degree weather when none of the top players would come, while Blake's mediocre DC record is built most entirely on inexperienced juniors and club players, Indian doubles players and Spaniards on grass which he should have another loss but rain cancelled play when he was a game from losing or when the match did not matter and he won a dead rubber. He has not done anything when the pressure is on and did not deserve many of the selections he got in the first place.

That's the plain truth, no matter what you think of Vince.

Corey Feldman
09-03-2006, 04:44 PM
It would be funny if Moya beat Blake tonight and said "i kept hitting it deep to his backhand as Spadea had said"
:lol:

tangerine_dream
09-04-2006, 02:53 AM
Crummy court Roger and Vinnay are playing on tonight (but lucky fans!). You can hear absolutely everything--the announcements, the loud cheering--from the Blake/Moya match.

star
09-04-2006, 03:07 AM
"Chewing gum "makes you look happier and more confident."

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Action Jackson
09-04-2006, 08:13 AM
Well Vinnay Ice must be doing something right, it seems that people are talking about the book for whatever reasons.

At the same time would I read it, yes, if it was free from my local library. The Boca Raton Beatbox is multi tasking rapping, playing tennis, studmuffin and author and a significant amount of people want to read about the dirt that goes on the tour.

As for his peers, I think Vinnay doesn't care too much about likes and a party for him could be celebrated in a telephone booth and they'd have space left over, but he is doing his thing.

Allure
09-04-2006, 09:00 AM
I can believe Blake is not a good person because I have had to work for him and he was not a nice person. Plus me and my friends went to a casual dinner with some players and they said Blake's squeaky clean image (as well as probably most players') is all PR. When you are a public figure, you're going to have a modified image to sell yourself.

I dunno why some fans don't want to believe that it is POSSIBLE that their favorite player is not perfect. They are humans... and humans come in "nice" and "not so nice." I mean, my favorite player, when I met him, wasn't very nice to me, but I don't give a shit because I am a fan of what I know of him on the tennis court. It ends there. Why does who they really are have to matter so much to people

I think it's dumb to write tell alls and stuff like that. Spadea is dumb for that. At the same time, God help fans who get so emotionally invested in believing the best of someone they'll never be best friends with. We are here to watch their tennis.

What did Blake do? I really want to know cause everyone always say how nice he is. Personally, I never liked him. There's something about him. :rolleyes:

J.Capriati.Fan
09-05-2006, 01:53 PM
Can't anyone tell me what he wrote about Capriati :(

Adler
09-05-2006, 01:56 PM
I'm sorry for the question, but - are any parts of the book in the Internet? I'm asking, because in my region the book is unavailable (and we don't have much tennis fans here, so I guess it won't ever be)

atpSUPERMAN
09-05-2006, 02:35 PM
Spadea is great entertainment. I heard he asked the USTA if he could hold a press conference to announce that he will defeat Roger Federer, and they didn't let him :(

That was funny in the first game of the Federer match Spadea hit a winner and then shook his head and said the fword a couple of times under his breath like he was frustrated it was taking this long to win his serve (2 deuces)! And then later in the match he won a long rally with lots of running and finished at the net and as he walked back put his arms out and looked around as if to say "WHATS A GUY GOTTA DO TO WIN A POINT AROUND HERE??"

lynnlovestennis
09-05-2006, 10:04 PM
Can't anyone tell me what he wrote about Capriati :(

As you may have guessed, he wrote that he could get any woman he wants. He said that he "had Capriati's number" (meaning her phone number). Then like two paragraphs later he describes how he went to her 29th birthday party and that he's known her since they were juniors. Whether or not there was/is any romantic inclination is suspect at best, even given Spadea's own account and his constant exaggeration. Add to this that this was in the context of just having finished describing his "taste" in women, which was far afield from Jennifer C, and closer to Maria Sharapova; though he also clearly says Sharapova's not his type despite having described her as said "type" to a T. (Yea, wtfe.... :rolleyes: )

He has similar, in fact constant, inconsistencies throughout the book. It's a poorly written thing too, which begs questions about the guy he "wrote" it with. I think it was here that someone else noted the multiple factual errors such as Sampras being the only man over the age of 30 to win the US Open and that Safin won the Open in 2001.

Rest assured that I didn't purchase this book, but I will say that it's an amusing, if not quick read since it's written at about a 4th grade reading level. He mixes on-court strategy in well, and that's pretty much the only interesting bit about it. The smack talk about the pros is undoubtedly there to sell books, and its veracity is dubious -- at best.

I would spend the dough if you have it to spare, and consider it as a retirement gift for Spadea. I would gather that this dude's po'd enough people that he's not going to have many retirement options available to him out of the circuit of pros on the tour and will really need the money.

Then again, I personally hope he gets a job at the Tennis Channel and has his own reality show. I have a very vivid image of him cruising sunset with another top 100 player looking for hookers. :wavey:

partygirl
09-05-2006, 11:16 PM
Spadea also recounts the time he and Roddick squired two models to late-night clubs in Australia and how the models responded when Roddick offered to fly them back to South Florida.

now im curious to hear the ending of this tale.

Gulliver
09-05-2006, 11:44 PM
Is it true that after Federer had bagelled him in the 3rd set he said that that was for the guys in the locker room?

chicky841
09-06-2006, 03:26 AM
Spadea slices and dices in new book
By GREGORY STRONG


USA's Vincent Spadea.

(CP) - Vince Spadea may have just one singles title over his 13-year career on the ATP Tour, but his new book is a real winner.

Break Point: The Secret Diary of a Pro Tennis Player is an interesting and often humourous look at the ups and downs of life on the circuit. Spadea describes his battles on the court, his triumphs and frustrations and how he has survived the sometimes gruelling lifestyle of a touring professional.

But the real gems in the 297-page effort come in his blunt thoughts on everything from his opponents, coaches and problems with the game to his description of behind-the-scenes encounters with fans, women and players.

Spadea touches on his start in the game as a junior and how he came up through the ranks, but most of the book focuses on his rather disappointing 2005 season. He also slices and dices, letting 'er rip early and often.

He describes how motivated he became when fellow American Andre Agassi called him a "journeyman" years ago, adding the best thing that happened to Agassi's game seems to have been his divorce from actress Brooke Shields. He offers his two cents on some of the other top players in the game and isn't afraid to call it how he sees it.

Spadea says Russia's Marat Safin is physically the best player in the world but is not mentally tough enough. As for world No. 1 Roger Federer? Spadea says he might be the heralded one right now, but has a volatile mental game, although he calls his forehand possibly the greatest single shot in tennis.

World No. 2 Rafael Nadal also comes in the firing line. Spadea says the young Spaniard will never achieve what Federer will in the game, because he doesn't have nearly the skills, options and creativity of his Swiss rival.

Spadea also goes back to how he called out captain Patrick McEnroe for his decision to give Mardy Fish the final playing position ahead of him in the 2004 Davis Cup final, where the Americans lost to Spain.

Some might see it as bold talk from someone who's lone singles tournament victory came at a 2004 event in Scottsdale, Ariz. He briefly cracked the top 20 last year but has spent most of this season just trying to stay in the top 100.

As for any feedback, Spadea says it has been minimal.

"It's a book, it's something where the truth was told and everyone knows what the truth really is," Spadea said during an interview in Toronto. "You can't fight that."

Even if there was negative feedback, it doesn't seem like it would bother him.

Spadea sees himself as an outsider anyway, someone who bounces to his own beat. He's a unique character, a confident six-foot, 170-pounder with dark, curly hair, who walks with some swagger. There are third-person references galore - the book starts off with the line 'Welcome to outer Spadea' - he digs nice clothes but is also comfortable kickin' it in a pair of sweats and a jean jacket.

And speaking of kickin' it, Spadea also professes a love for rapping and peppers a few rhymes in throughout the book. If he doesn't go into the music business when he retires, Spadea might be able to go the comedy route. There are laughs to be had on a regular basis.

It's not hard to envision the smile on Spadea's face when he describes one girl he met while at a tournament in Rhode Island as "on a scale from one to 10, she was about a 38 DD."

Years ago on a long flight from Australia to Florida, Spadea came up with a list of rules for guys who don't know how to approach women and get their numbers, and what to say and wear on a first date. He coined it 'The Da Vince Code.'

But don't get the wrong idea.

He may discuss his interaction with actresses, models and former Playmates throughout the book, but adds he's not into one-night stands and has a solid moral character, as well as a love for family, church and God. He's trying to pursue a clean lifestyle and be a good person. He does get out to party on occasion but often passes it up to get his goal of 10 hours sleep each night.

Spadea can be serious too.

His prose comes with vivid description of his intense training and lifelong dedication to the sport he loves. After completing the book, it's hard not to believe he can one day make it to the top. The only problem is he's 32. With so many young stars in the mix, it's tough to make your mark once your mid-30's start approaching.

But Spadea, who has already made over $4.2 million dollars US over his career, feels he's far from done. Reaching No. 1 in the world or winning a Grand Slam title might be out of reach but he's still fighting to get there. His goal now is simply the pursuit of greatness.

"I'm a tennis player first and second, and everything else last," he says.

This much is clear. The man is focused and dedicated to his craft. And he's not about to give up.

Like he says: "Spadea ain't afraid of 'ya."

selesfan
09-06-2006, 05:08 AM
The other thead on this book has links to a couple of reviews that may explain Vince's animosity toward James.

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84875

The second review talked about James accusing Vince of gamesmanship during a match. Also, Vince apparently took a model to a player's party only to lose her to James while he (Vince) went to the bathroom. :awww: :hug:
:haha: :haha:

Maybe that's why he's bitter.

I'd LOVE to read the book, but I'm still debating whether I want to spend the money.

I'm going to get it from the library. Vince is crazy but funny, I feel kind of sorry for him. Agassi caled him nothing but a journeyman once and the next time Vince played him he beat him. Vince had a season where he was beating top players but couldn't beat the lower rnaked players.

Corey Feldman
09-06-2006, 05:43 AM
It was in Agassi's great year of 1999, he won RG, us open and lost to sampras in the wimbledon final...
the forgotton one was Vinnay blasting him in 4 sets at the Aussie Open 4th round.

enqvistfan
09-06-2006, 08:29 AM
now im curious to hear the ending of this tale.

It's funny :haha: The girls travelled to Florida, had fun with Roddick, and then Andy had to come back on tour and left them :lol:

J.Capriati.Fan
09-07-2006, 01:52 PM
As you may have guessed, he wrote that he could get any woman he wants. He said that he "had Capriati's number" (meaning her phone number). Then like two paragraphs later he describes how he went to her 29th birthday party and that he's known her since they were juniors. Whether or not there was/is any romantic inclination is suspect at best, even given Spadea's own account and his constant exaggeration. Add to this that this was in the context of just having finished describing his "taste" in women, which was far afield from Jennifer C, and closer to Maria Sharapova; though he also clearly says Sharapova's not his type despite having described her as said "type" to a T. (Yea, wtfe.... :rolleyes: )

He has similar, in fact constant, inconsistencies throughout the book. It's a poorly written thing too, which begs questions about the guy he "wrote" it with. I think it was here that someone else noted the multiple factual errors such as Sampras being the only man over the age of 30 to win the US Open and that Safin won the Open in 2001.

Rest assured that I didn't purchase this book, but I will say that it's an amusing, if not quick read since it's written at about a 4th grade reading level. He mixes on-court strategy in well, and that's pretty much the only interesting bit about it. The smack talk about the pros is undoubtedly there to sell books, and its veracity is dubious -- at best.

I would spend the dough if you have it to spare, and consider it as a retirement gift for Spadea. I would gather that this dude's po'd enough people that he's not going to have many retirement options available to him out of the circuit of pros on the tour and will really need the money.

Then again, I personally hope he gets a job at the Tennis Channel and has his own reality show. I have a very vivid image of him cruising sunset with another top 100 player looking for hookers. :wavey:


Thank you so much :kiss:

cincy
09-08-2006, 04:14 PM
This much is clear. The man is focused and dedicated to his craft. And he's not about to give up.

This much is clear . . . Andre was right. The man is nothing but a journeyman, a tennis bum trying to stay in the top 100. :rolleyes:

I used to like Spadea; I rooted for him at tournaments; I circled his match as one to watch when I was at the Miami tournament. He was fun and interesting then. Now, he's just a sad jackass.

It was in Agassi's great year of 1999, he won RG, us open and lost to sampras in the wimbledon final...

Actually, Andre's great year of 1999 didn't begin until the French Open. At the Aussie Open he was injured and had just filed for divorce. He also lost in the first round at Miami because of an injury (arm, I believe). He won the French as the 13th seed. It was after that when his great year began: French, Wimbledon final, U.S. Open win and Aussie Open win in 2000. Vinny beat an injured, depressed man. Has he beaten Andre since? No!!

ONE tour victory in 13 years . . . and he says he's insulted to be called a journeyman!!! Please!!! He's being called much worse these days, I'm sure.

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 05:09 PM
What did Blake do? I really want to know cause everyone always say how nice he is. Personally, I never liked him. There's something about him. :rolleyes:

He didn't do something. It's not like he goes around slapping people to make him a bad person you know. It doesn't take an *incident* . Just some of us didn't enjoy working for him let's just say that... just as some of us didn't enjoy working for Hewitt or Tatiana Poutchek... some people just get the reputation as being a brat or a dick or what not. But anyway, it's not like these people go around punching people.

cincy
09-08-2006, 08:20 PM
He didn't do something. It's not like he goes around slapping people to make him a bad person you know.

Just because you "worked for him" and didn't enjoy the experience doesn't mean somebody else would not enjoy working for him. For instance . . . ME!!! I've worked for him at the tournament here and he has always been a perfect gentleman; well-mannered, polite and NICE and very funny!! To my eyes he is a well brought up young man. I would work for him again in a heartbeat.

Also, I think it's pretty bad form for you to go on a message board and say that James Blake is a bad person. Stop being so vague. Tell people exactly why you think this or shut up!!!

Gonzo Hates Me!
09-08-2006, 09:16 PM
Just because you "worked for him" and didn't enjoy the experience doesn't mean somebody else would not enjoy working for him.

I didn't say no one enjoys working with him. I didn't say no one would enjoy working with him. You have IReadWhatIWantToSee syndrome. I gave my experience. MY experience. So what is the problem? Have your experience and I'll have mine. But I never said, because of my experience everyone's experience must be the same so chill the fuck out.

But I can tell my experience. For instance . . . ME!!! I've worked for him at the tournament here and he has always been a perfect gentleman; well-mannered, polite and NICE and very funny!! To my eyes he is a well brought up young man. I would work for him again in a heartbeat.

Hooray!!!

Also, I think it's pretty bad form for you to go on a message board and say that, "James Blake is a bad person."

Uuuuuuuuuuuummmmmmm, never said that.

And please read my very first post on page two. I think you're confused with the subjects of this thread and just posting on the last thing you read

Stop being so vague. Tell people exactly why you think this

um, no

or shut up!!!

um, no

binkygirl
09-09-2006, 03:56 AM
It's funny :haha: The girls travelled to Florida, had fun with Roddick, and then Andy had to come back on tour and left them :lol:

He left them in Florida with no way to get back to Aussie?

Tommy_Vercetti
09-11-2006, 03:33 AM
He says that he heard the reason Hewitt and Clijsters broke up was because Hewitt got caught sleeping with a female tennis player that had a reputation already and had slept with her coach.

He says that Clijsters became very flirty after they broke up.

It's an interesting book.

He is really loose and honest in the book about his perception of people.

liptea
09-11-2006, 04:58 AM
I think I'll wait for the movie.

TennisAgenda
09-11-2006, 05:44 AM
Vince can write whatever he wants. I also think Blake is a fraud and a pretentious. Blake is all PR. He's also a lot of hype and hot air. The media act like Blake is a champion yet his results prove he's not. Only two grand slam quarterfinal results and only six titles. Not exactly a big deal.

TennisAgenda
09-11-2006, 05:48 AM
Some tennis fans are so immature and stupid. They treat their favourite stars as though they are gods. Some people on this board act like Agassi and Blake are Jesus Christ or Mother Teresa. Those goons and neither. I always have been interested in the real story behind sports. Not the PR interviews for the press. Here we have Vince Spadea a former top 20 player telling the truth about the ATP tour and Agassi and Blake fans are upset. No one had to tell me Agassi is a pretentious Diva. Agassi and his carefully put together farewell tour was beyond annoying to the extreme. Its good that Agassi has finally gone to pasture. As for Blake he's certainly not mr. nice guy that's for sure. Blake is a flake.

bellascarlett
09-11-2006, 08:45 AM
Spadea says Russia's Marat Safin is physically the best player in the world but is not mentally tough enough.

What else does he say about Marat if there was any?

Tommy_Vercetti
09-11-2006, 07:26 PM
I finished the book and here is some of the things he said, I've had to skip paragraphs between the statements because I don't want to type two pages:

On Fake Blake in Vienna:

"But nothing like that had ever happened to me. I think Blake said what he did at the changeover because he didn't want to come across to the fans like he was being confrontational.

After the match, as we were walking off the court. I said, "Hey James, that was really an appropriate and professional thing you did. It really lived up to the image you try and portray of yourself."

"Hey, nobody ever questions the way that I operate," he said. "I get along with everybody on this tour. You're not the most liked guy out here. I've won the sportsmanship award. I'm known for that."

I said, "You know what James, you are known for that, and that's why I'm not going to further dignify your on-court commentaries with any more responses. The last time I checked, we were two pro tennis players, not a couple of juniors."

On the MTF-hated and arrogant Roddick:

"Andy Roddick chooses not to partake of the amenities of the seeded locker room. He eccentrically goes into the unseedeed locker room instead. I've heard that he doesn't like the aristocratic, seeded locker room atmosphere. He's an everyman type of guy who doesn't like the first-class treatment. Besides, he started off in the unseeded locker room, so it's a superstition with him now. Roddick comes from money, but he likes hanging out in simple bars in Austin, Texas, where he lives. It's a little small-town America attitude, and he's originally from Nebraska. I think it's cool that he does that."

BiancaUL
09-12-2006, 05:46 AM
The US Open; players are hoping, women are scoping, I'm jump roping, what's with all these players doping?? I gotta start fixing cause I feel broken, in two, losing four first rounds and I'm paying for my shoes. I've paid my dues, but for all the wrong reasons I've made the news. Skies are blue, so is my emotion, I have to find the victory potion, use better sun tan lotion, do sprints in the ocean, whatever it takes, even if I have to fake it 'til I make it, confidence feels naked.

Arriving in New York City. If you're not pretty, you won't get any pity, if you're not smart, you'll end up pushing a shopping cart, 'cause no matter who you are, what city or nation, this city has no patience for anyone who isn't amazin'.

The symmetry of my life conflicts with the imagery of my strife that's why winning the US Open title is just so vital, at least I hope to make it to the final, play it out like a piano recital, I feel the same age as vinyl and Billy Idol. Being American with the hopefully no arrogance, I lost my Prada glasses, and I bought a new pair again. But my tennis is not as replaceable, my belief has gotta be traceable, to my years of the Top 20, US Open and Vinny got together like Abraham Lincoln and the penny.

How many Opens do I have left? Time's whistling like a ref, cutting down like a chef, I've got the adrenaline of playing at Wimbledon, nerves are meddlin', but more than any kind of gropin', mopin', feeling crazier than elopin', I'm ready to give my best, to this US Open.

:lol:

Horatio Caine
09-12-2006, 10:00 AM
As for Vinnay's book, I have absolutely no desire to read it lol.

I might be tempted to read a few lines in place of land law :p

Nathaliia
09-12-2006, 10:21 AM
If the video of Vince and Paris Hilton was included, I would consider buying this book.

smucav
10-03-2006, 04:53 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/tennis/sfl-sptencol03oct03,0,4354400.story?coll=sfla-sports-tennis
Spadea gets `A' for book's honest portrayal
October 3, 2006

I finished the Vince Spadea book, which surprises me because I wasn't interested in it at all when his writer, Dan Markowitz, began hustling me to read it during the U.S. Open.

But I began reading Break Point through solo meals in various restaurants and, eventually, curled up in bed to finish it.

It isn't the great American piece of non-fiction, but it's astonish-ingly good. "Astonish-ingly" because I've known Spadea for years and I never saw this sort of serious work coming out of him.

There have been books written on the men's and women's tours, but none that took you inside the locker room, or the road parties or the various player peccadilloes, and made you feel "right there."

Spadea has done such a good job of stripping away the veneer of the players' public lives that he also has scored some negative publicity from his colleagues on tour -- particularly James Blake, who believes there is a code and that what takes place behind those closed doors stays in there.

It's not just the locker room doors Spadea throws open, but the players' lives as well.

"Tommy Haas has a hot-and-cold personality to fit his hot-and-cold game," Spadea says in the tome. And, "Guillermo Canas' suspension is not surprising to me. It's gotten to the point where the drugs are everywhere and the penalties are going to have to become harsher to stop it." And, "Lleyton Hewitt's not the type of guy to break the ice and try to be your best friend, but if you're nice enough to him, he's cordial and cool back."

And this, when he was invited at 18 to go to Las Vegas with a friend and train a young Andre Agassi: "On the first day, we practiced for 30 minutes and Andre said he'd had enough, handed [us] three $100 bills each and the keys to an Acura -- probably his maid's car -- and said, `Go have some fun in the casino.'"

Spadea, who long ago settled in Boca Raton with his parents and two tennis-playing sisters, always has been, for me, as well as others, a clownish, under-achieving yet engaging character.

He's 32 now, which means he's playing smarter tennis but, physically, he's had his best moments, and there have been a few. Not many, but one title, a handful of memorable wins and over $4 million in prize money.

Spadea was a top junior who essentially wasted his best professional years, refusing to get a real traveling coach and instead hiring a long list of on-the-cheap "coaches" who rolled out the balls, made the plane and hotel reservations, and listened to his goofy raps.

I don't want to make him sound like a buffoon, because he's not, but for years Spadea was not well-liked by a number of players because his father, Vince Sr., seemed always to be arguing with ATP officials about something or bad-mouthing his son's opponents.

Spadea never quite fit in with other American players, being a bit too young to connect with Pete Sampras, Todd Martin or Agassi, and too old for Andy Roddick, Mardy Fish and Blake.

There never was any overt friction, but no real social relationship beyond the casual greetings and artificial conversation.

So here was Spadea, perhaps looking for some sort of lasting identity for his years on the pro tour, where he once hit the skids with a record 21 consecutive losses but also reached a career best of No. 18.

If that's why this book was written, fine. I don't think the motivation matters as much as the content and I believe it's an honest portrayal of life on the men's tour and that's something the public has never gotten from someone at this level.

It's well written, incisive, and Spadea has done a remarkable job of revealing himself, along with some fellow pros, in what I believe is an important piece of work.

I'm richer for having read it.

Charles Bricker's tennis column appears Tuesdays. He can be reached at cbricker@sun-sentinel.com.

Copyright © 2006, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

vogus
10-03-2006, 05:06 PM
SPADEA BOOK BLISTERS BLAKE
By MARC BERMAN

. . . Blake's forehand is not correct with his geometry. If you ask an expert, there's no way in the world he's going to tell you that Blake's forehand is rock solid[/B]."

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yeah, Blake's forehand is not solid.

since Spadea hits his own forehand like a 14 year old junior girl, i guess he should know.

GermanBoy
10-03-2006, 05:10 PM
Didn't know he knew how to write... :confused: :scared:

MarieS
10-03-2006, 05:12 PM
Didn't know he knew how to write... :confused: :scared:

It's called ghost writing. :p

alfonsojose
10-03-2006, 07:54 PM
I can believe Blake is not a good person because I have had to work for him and he was not a nice person. Plus me and my friends went to a casual dinner with some players and they said Blake's squeaky clean image (as well as probably most players') is all PR. When you are a public figure, you're going to have a modified image to sell yourself.

I dunno why some fans don't want to believe that it is POSSIBLE that their favorite player is not perfect. They are humans... and humans come in "nice" and "not so nice." I mean, my favorite player, when I met him, wasn't very nice to me, but I don't give a shit because I am a fan of what I know of him on the tennis court. It ends there. Why does who they really are have to matter so much to people

I think it's dumb to write tell alls and stuff like that. Spadea is dumb for that. At the same time, God help fans who get so emotionally invested in believing the best of someone they'll never be best friends with. We are here to watch their tennis.

:worship: :worship: :worship:

alfonsojose
10-03-2006, 08:04 PM
He says that he heard the reason Hewitt and Clijsters broke up was because Hewitt got caught sleeping with a female tennis player that had a reputation already and had slept with her coach.

He says that Clijsters became very flirty after they broke up.

It's an interesting book.

He is really loose and honest in the book about his perception of people.

In Wtaworld i've seen that story. Golovin was the girl, who was the coach :eek:

I'm going to buy the book :yeah: juicy gossip :devil:

alfonsojose
10-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Vince's eccentricities is exactly why this book should be good. :shrug: I ordered it and can't wait to read it.

I also hate how Blake acts when he's losing. Poor sport.

link, please :D

Adidas Dude
10-04-2006, 05:47 PM
I've always found James Blake to be a fake, even way before the "nice guy" image came about. Call it intuition. I feel vindicated to read that Vincent Spadea confirms it. And the worst thing I've ever seen "nice guy" Blake do was to mock Hewitt and his "come on!" sign when he was finally able to win a point against the guy. Blake had so much hatred inside him and it all came out. Hewitt isn't particularly well-liked on the tour, but he's never mocked anyone else and his "come on's!" have never been an act of intimidation at other players. You have to wonder why all the bad things happened to Blake. Karma, maybe?

lordmanji
10-25-2006, 05:24 PM
So I read Spadea's book, "Break Point," yesterday. It's not really a book but more a compilation of journals organized from late 2004 to the end of the US Open. Its a fascinating read for many reasons and in my opinion has gotten an unfair shake because of Spadea's reputation as someone who can't be taken seroiusly.

There are descriptions of his run-ins with many players: Agassi especially, both McEnroes, Rafter, Roddick and Blake. I'm inclined to believe his side of what happened, outrageous as it may seem, just because every other part of the book is told with honesty. I mean, this is a guy who raps in every chapter without shame. He's too occupied w/ being himself and "telling it like it is" to make things up. And when you consider just what he says of the players, it's quite balanced - good and bad.

He even has some moral character when it comes with women, believe it or not. Sure he'll hit on anything that walks - provided they're beautiful - and he's notorious for including "The Da Vince Code" to pick up women, but if you read further you'll find that he'll mess around w/ them though not go all the way. Either cause it's moving too fast, he has a match etc.

Like Chang, he considers himself an outsider. He's not particularly tight with the other Americans namely roddick, blake, fish - considers them too much part of the competition. Still, he did go with them to their davis cup battle against spain even though he wasn't picked despite having a better rec than fish who played more davis cup but the tie would be on court - not his best surface.

Spadea does have some solid credentials. He was a champ at the orange and easter bowls. He's beaten Chang, Agassi, Blake, Roddick. He's been ranked as high as 19 although briefly and is a solid top 50 player. He's been on the tour for 12 years and has alot of really normal things to say (things other players would also talk about): the monotony of living out of hotels, the cafeteria food, picking up women, the sting of defeat and thrill of victory.

His accounts of run-ins with other players makes for a much more interesting read.

zadle69
03-19-2007, 05:09 AM
if you read vincent spadea's book what did it say about the players and what did you think of the book

Kitty de Sade
03-19-2007, 05:13 AM
The release of the book happened quite awhile ago, seems like rather odd timing to start fishing now.

jayjay
03-19-2007, 05:14 AM
Vince Spadea was quite damning about zadle69, he said "that guy should stop starting so many f***ing threads." Vince also said he likes dolphins.

MarieS
03-19-2007, 05:19 AM
Seriously, where have you been? :( Why have you been depriving MTF of such quality threads for this long? :sobbing:

atheneglaukopis
03-19-2007, 06:05 AM
He said all the players are gay and planning on coming out simultaneously two weeks from today (Pacific time), Nadal has a famously bulked up assteroid, that his own blog is better than Tursunov's, and that the next William Shakespeare is a diamond in the rough who will make his big breakthrough posting literary threads on MTF.

Macbrother
03-19-2007, 06:09 AM
I love all of you guys. :lol:

Merton
03-19-2007, 06:15 AM
He said all the players are gay and planning on coming out simultaneously two weeks from today (Pacific time), Nadal has a famously bulked up assteroid, that his own blog is better than Tursunov's, and that the next William Shakespeare is a diamond in the rough who will make his big breakthrough posting literary threads on MTF.

:haha: :haha: :haha: too good:worship: :worship: :worship:

atheneglaukopis
03-19-2007, 06:21 AM
if you read vincent spadea's book what did it say about the players and what did you think of the book

:haha: :haha: :haha: too good:worship: :worship: :worship:Oh, and to answer the second part of the question: I thought the book was a work of genius. :bowdown:

Kitty de Sade
03-19-2007, 06:24 AM
Oh, and to answer the second part of the question: I thought the book was a work of genius. :worship:

Agreed. I predict that in addition to tour player, best selling author, and clothing manufacturer, he'll have a fourth equally successful stint as a recording artist.

I love Spadea- he's as sharp as a marble. :)

Merton
03-19-2007, 06:29 AM
Vince's masterpiece explains the dynamics of the ATP tour in a work so important that later historians and scientists will only compare with Newton's Principia Mathematica.

tennis2tennis
04-12-2007, 09:46 AM
...anybody brought the book? I know its been out quite a time now but I've only recently been made aware of it, it's apparantly ruffled a few feathers in the ATP...does anyone have extracts or thoughts /take on it?

http://img.tesco.com/pi/Books/L/91/9781550227291.jpg

what exactly did he say against blake

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Book Club: Deconstructing Vince
Posted 04/10/2007 @ 6 :09 PM

This week, in the latest installment of the TENNIS.com Book Club, online editor Kamakshi Tandon and I are discussing “Break Point,” the 2006 tour diary by Vince Spadea with Dan Markowitz. Your comments are welcome as well.

Hi Kamakshi,

I enjoyed this book, more than I thought I would, but it's probably not one that’s going to impress a lot of people around you, particularly women in New York. I was standing on the subway reading it the other day. Two women were sitting in front of me; one of them saw the cover photo of a somewhat younger-looking Vince doing a double fist-clench, eyes closed, red face overwhelmed with emotion. She nudged her friend and they both looked at the cover and gave a snort of laughter.

I understood—the subtitle, “The Secret Diary of a Pro Tennis Player,” is kind of snort-worthy. But I wanted to tell them, “Hey this is a pretty good read. If, you know, you want to know what Tommy Haas and Jim Pierce are really like.” Actually, what I should have done was consult Vince’s handy in-book guide to picking up women, which he's named “Da Vince Code.” Sample advice: “Step 1: Appearance: Always keep a piece of gum in your mouth…. It can help you, if the girl rejects you, to continue to chew. It shows that you’re still confident and have everything under control. In extreme cases, you can just blow a bubble in her face and move on.” Damn, I could have used that with the girls on the subway!

Yes, Vince Spadea was 31 years old when his book, and his dating guide, were published. Which brings me straight to the question I’ve always had about him: Why, at an age when most tennis pros have left their youthful hair and hi-jinks behind, has Spadea begun to act out more? In recent years, he’s grown his hair, created an alter ego as a “tennis rapper,” and designed his own hip-hop-style clothing line. I’ve seen him a couple times in recent years rapping and cruising the grounds of a tournament with a buddy, in street clothes, his baseball cap turned sideways.

Is Spadea a case of delayed-adolescent attention seeking, or is he just a harmlessly colorful guy? Any decent autobiography should answer these questions and make you at least somewhat sympathetic to the writer. “Break Point” does both—while he’s hardly a saint or a white knight (see the bubble-blowing advice above), Spadea doesn’t come across as a jerk either. He’s observant, driven, honest, insecure, a loner who has never been part of the in-crowd on tour.

Spadea’s story is not unusual among tennis players and other athletes who dedicate their youths to their sports, growing up with social blinders on. The sport’s most famous example of this was Bjorn Borg, the single-minded Swede who said good-bye to the tennis tour at 25, left his longtime coach and his practice regimen behind, and quickly made up for lost time on the international party tour.

At the same age, Spadea also made a break. He finally stopped traveling with his family, and his dad stopped working as his coach for the first time. Spadea’s father, Vince, Sr., is a sort of Italian-American—and somewhat gentler—version of Mike Agassi. He taught himself the game so he could teach his kids to play, and then dedicated his life to their tennis. Like Andre, Vince’s older sister Luanne was a national junior champion, and Vince clearly ate, slept, and drank the sport through his teens. With his father off the sidelines, Spadea must have felt the freedom to put more of his personality on display.

Vince Sr., is certainly a character—and not easy to get away from. I’ve met him a couple times, as anyone who’s spent time around tennis has. At the 2004 French Open, we had a long conversation (though we didn't know each other) about everything going on during the clay-court season, about Vince and every other player imaginable. Vince Sr., is a nice guy, and a font of tennis info—I learned, for example, that the Chileans have struggled at the French Open in the past because they put so much effort into the World Team Cup that’s played a week before. It’s a big, televised event in Chile, apparently. Who knew?

But while Borg bagged the sport, Spadea seems to have redoubled his tennis efforts even as he’s brought out new aspects of his personality. He’s spent the years since he split with his father searching in the wilderness for a coach—he even worked with Pete Fischer for a decent amount of time (Fischer helped him in a lot of ways, but eventually lost faith in Spadea’s ability to improve). Beneath his antics, Vince remains dedicated to the “battle.” If the book gets one thing across, it’s how much effort and will it takes to do what he does, and how it's almost a full-time job finding ways to stay motivated. Spadea never seems to tire of the challenge, though, and I came away admiring how his tenacity has only increased with age—a rarity in any line of work.

OK, that’s it for now. More on the book's “scandalous” behind-the-scenes stories, and Vince's (insightful) descriptions of Agassi, Sampras, Blake, Roddick, etc., later.

Were you surprised by his print personality, Kamakshi?

Saumon
04-12-2007, 10:01 AM
THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)

[_] Fake account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[_] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[_] It is a lame ass troll attempt
[_] It is a “Threaten to leave” thread
[_] It was started by Rafa=FedKilla
[_] It over hypes players that don’t deserve it
[_] It contains the Croatian contingent in a argument either among themselves or with others
[_] It was started by JustCause
[_] Original Posters grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[_] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[_] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year olds career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clowns chances at a clay event or in a individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people bitch about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] LOL Jerry Seinfeld
[_] To much sex talk in this thread
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[X] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp is called a injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, douche

tennis2tennis
04-12-2007, 11:55 AM
THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)

[_] Fake account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[_] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[_] It is a lame ass troll attempt
[_] It is a ďThreaten to leaveĒ thread
[_] It was started by Rafa=FedKilla
[_] It over hypes players that donít deserve it
[_] It contains the Croatian contingent in a argument either among themselves or with others
[_] It was started by JustCause
[_] Original Posters grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[_] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[_] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year olds career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clowns chances at a clay event or in a individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people bitch about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] LOL Jerry Seinfeld
[_] To much sex talk in this thread
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[X] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp is called a injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, douche
#

Saumon RESPONSE SUCKS ...
[X] Inability to respond without sponging of a second hand and over used method of sarcasm!

alfonsojose
04-12-2007, 02:20 PM
I bought it. Nice gossip :D and laughing at his sillyness :haha:

Snowwy
04-12-2007, 03:01 PM
That form should only be used by Glenn and maybe a couple others, its used too often now and has lost its funniness :(

Dougie
04-12-2007, 03:03 PM
That form should only be used by Glenn and maybe a couple others, its used too often now and has lost its funniness :(

True. Itīs almost like a competition, who gets to make the second post in a thread and use that form. Besides, I donīt really see anything wrong with this particular thread.

alfonsojose
04-12-2007, 03:08 PM
THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)

[_] Fake account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[_] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[_] It is a lame ass troll attempt
[_] It is a ďThreaten to leaveĒ thread
[_] It was started by Rafa=FedKilla
[_] It over hypes players that donít deserve it
[_] It contains the Croatian contingent in a argument either among themselves or with others
[_] It was started by JustCause
[_] Original Posters grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[_] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[_] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year olds career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clowns chances at a clay event or in a individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people bitch about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] LOL Jerry Seinfeld
[_] To much sex talk in this thread
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[X] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp is called a injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, douche

i like u but this thread doesn't suck :rolleyes:

Saumon
04-12-2007, 03:22 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=62246
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84737
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84640
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84875
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=89054
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=98101

:yawn:

alfonsojose
04-12-2007, 03:31 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=62246
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84737
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84640
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=84875
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=89054
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=98101

:yawn:

And why didn't you post this in the first place, or just tell the thread starter "use the search tool" :yawn: :confused:

Saumon
04-12-2007, 03:36 PM
because I'm a rude person :shrug:

Deboogle!.
04-12-2007, 03:42 PM
I'll ask ;)

tennis2tennis
04-12-2007, 03:45 PM
And why didn't you post this in the first place, or just tell the thread starter "use the search tool" :yawn: :confused:

Then he wouldn't have the chance to illustrate his "oh so witty" demeanour!

alfonsojose
04-12-2007, 04:14 PM
Then he wouldn't have the chance to illustrate his "oh so witty" demeanour!
i guess :)

binkygirl
07-09-2007, 03:50 AM
I have a very vivid image of him cruising sunset with another top 100 player looking for hookers. :wavey:

I live in LA. The hookers are actually on Hollywood Blvd especially as you get to the Hollywood Blvd and Western intersection. Thanks to the movies, everyone thinks that they are on Sunset.

Raquel
01-01-2008, 05:47 PM
Bit of a random bump, but I stumbled across a preview of Vince's book on Google books. You can read the first 40 pages here for free, if anyone's interested http://books.google.com/books?id=_qvLLDi4_awC&printsec=frontcover&dq=vince+spadea&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=16F-lhtQzmjkIQwHYmcJthpBqwE

I'm not Vince's biggest fan but his section at the beginning about the Davis Cup final week was very honest and I remember saying at the time, he should have got his chance to play a match. He was right about the stats. It seems though he wasn't part of the in clique that Patrick McEnroe clearly favoured. Hats off to Andy Roddick - that was a really classy gesture offering Vince his runners up trophy for being a team player and saying he would wait until he got his hands on the real Davis Cup trophy. Turns out he would get to hold it up in the end.

I think my favourite line in that preview though was "Agassi has an Oedipus complex" :eek: Classic.