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Country rankings (5 Belgian players ranked top-100)

JuanRodriguez
11-22-2005, 08:45 AM
Not bad for a such a small country with a population of 10 million people. Belgium is doing as good as Russia and better than countries like Australia, Sweden, Italy and Great-Britain :eek:
Congratz to Olivier Rochus (28), Xavier Malisse (48), Christophe Rochus (52), Dick Norman (94) and Kristof Vliegen (95)! :) A proof there is still quality at the men's side in Belgium and that there is more than Clijsters and Henin.

by the way also congratulations to the Czech Republic, having EIGHT players ranked in the top-100. I have to admit I was quite surprised by that, but looking at the players, it seems pretty deserved. ;)

10 Argentina, Spain
9 France, USA
8 Czech republic
7 Germany
5 Belgium, Russia
4 Sweden, Italy
3 Great-Britain, Croatia
2 Switzerland, Chile, Slovakia, Romania, Serbia
1 Australia :eek: , Finland, Bulgary, Thailand, Austria, Cyprus, Denmark, South-Africa, Ecuador, Luxemburg, Peru, Korea, Brazil

Hagar
11-22-2005, 08:48 AM
:rocker2:
Belgian boys rock!!!

croat123
11-22-2005, 01:48 PM
quality over quantity

Castafiore
11-22-2005, 02:53 PM
Not bad for such a small country!

Talking about talent with Belgian blood:
In my newspaper, they were talking about a 12-year old: Mika De Coster.
His mother is from Finland (former world champion motocross Pekka Vekhonen) and his dad is from Belgium (5 time world champion motocross Roger De Coster). Mika now has the American nationality and lives in the States but they're going to ask the Belgian nationality for Mika so that he will have the double nationality.

Anyway, they hype around this young guy is already building. His Dutch coach Robert Lansdorp says that Mika has more talent than Peter Sampras at that age because Mika has good timing, a fantastic backhand, a good volley, a decent serve, he's intelligent and doesn't mind working hard and suffering a bit and he's mentally tough! Lansdorp gives Mika 5 years to reach the very top.
Mika's IQ = 135.
Fun fact: his godfather is Eddy Merckx!


Does anybody know more about Mika?
It would be fun to see him get the Belgian nationality (not that it's that important either).


Going back to the statistic: Australia only 1? :eek:

Jimnik
11-22-2005, 03:10 PM
Not just Belgium.

Croatia, Czech Republic, Serbia, Sweden, Switzerland, Slovakia and Luxembourg are all doing very well considering their small populations.

jeanie_sin
11-22-2005, 03:12 PM
quality over quantity

i would say there's quite a high amount of quality in the belgian boys ;)

at least they do more than serve ;)

shotgun
11-22-2005, 03:13 PM
Going back to the statistic: Australia only 1? :eek:

Yeap, only Hewitt is a top 100 in Australia. Arthurs falls short at 101st. Philippousis is still trying to make a comeback, and former young guns Guccione and Reid haven't paid off as well as expected.

Norrage
11-22-2005, 05:27 PM
Netherlands with none, and actually only 1 if you also add women is really awful...
Belgian statistics are even way better when you add Henin and Clijsters :o

bokehlicious
11-22-2005, 05:40 PM
Not bad for a such a small country with a population of 10 million people.

Ratio of Czech republic is even more impressive. 8 for only 10 million people. :eek:

El Legenda
11-22-2005, 05:47 PM
Ratio of Czech republic is even more impressive. 8 for only 10 million people. :eek:

not quite

El Legenda
11-22-2005, 05:54 PM
Czech Republic has 6 players in top 100 not 8

Beck and Hrbaty are from Slovak Republic

Czech- Stepanek, Radek (CZE) Berdych, Tomas (CZE)Novak, Jiri (CZE) Zib, Tomas (CZE) Hernych, Jan (CZE) Minar, Ivo (CZE)

Slovak- Beck and Hrbaty

El Legenda
11-22-2005, 05:55 PM
So croatia 3 for 4.4m = 1.46

shotgun
11-22-2005, 06:00 PM
I think that Human Development Index would be a better measure than population size. ;)

lorenz
11-22-2005, 06:10 PM
I think that Human Development Index would be a better measure than population size. ;)

I Like it more.
But we would create forumula:

0.8 x Human Development Index + 0.2 x Population

:)

DrJules
11-22-2005, 06:11 PM
Going back to the statistic: Australia only 1? :eek:


But Lleyton Hewitt is in the top 5.

DrJules
11-22-2005, 06:13 PM
I Like it more.
But we would create forumula:

0.8 x Human Development Index + 0.2 x Population

:)

You would need to incorporate age distribution into your calculation. Developed countries have an older average population.

JuanRodriguez
11-22-2005, 06:15 PM
Czech Republic has 6 players in top 100 not 8

Beck and Hrbaty are from Slovak Republic

Czech- Stepanek, Radek (CZE) Berdych, Tomas (CZE)Novak, Jiri (CZE) Zib, Tomas (CZE) Hernych, Jan (CZE) Minar, Ivo (CZE)

Slovak- Beck and Hrbaty

I guess you forgot about Dlouhy and Vik

21 Stepanek, Radek (CZE )
25 Berdych, Tomas (CZE )
49 Novak, Jiri (CZE )
59 Zib, Tomas (CZE )
62 Vik, Robin (CZE )
70 Minar, Ivo (CZE )
76 Hernych, Jan (CZE )
92 Dlouhy, Lukas (CZE )

and number 9 is pretty close getting ranked top-100 too :)
102 Vanek, Jiri (CZE )

El Legenda
11-22-2005, 06:17 PM
I guess you forgot about Dlouhy and Vik

21 Stepanek, Radek (CZE )
25 Berdych, Tomas (CZE )
49 Novak, Jiri (CZE )
59 Zib, Tomas (CZE )
62 Vik, Robin (CZE )
70 Minar, Ivo (CZE )
76 Hernych, Jan (CZE )
92 Dlouhy, Lukas (CZE )

and number 9 is pretty close getting ranked top-100 too :)
102 Vanek, Jiri (CZE )
http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/championsrace/default.asp?country=Czech%20Republic

I went by race pts

JuanRodriguez
11-22-2005, 06:27 PM
http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/championsrace/default.asp?country=Czech%20Republic

I went by race pts

of course :o

I still don't like the system with two ranking lists :(

Jimnik
11-22-2005, 07:03 PM
Luxembourg is the best. 1 for 0.4million = 0.4.

BATES
11-22-2005, 07:27 PM
I made a top 10 by population:

2.13 Luxembourg (1 player/0.468 million)
1.16 Cyprus (1 player / 0.780 million)
0.78 Czech Republic (8 players / 10.241 millions)
0.66 Croatia (3 players / 4.495 millions)
0.48 Belgium (5 players / 10.364 millions)
0.44 Sweden (2 players / 9.001 millions)
0.26 Switzerland (2 players / 7.489 millions)
0.25 Argentina (10 players / 39.537 millions)
0.24 Spain (10 players / 40.341 millions)
0.19 Finland (1 player / 5.223 millions)

Drimal
11-22-2005, 08:33 PM
I made a top 10 by population:

2.13 Luxembourg (1 player/0.468 million)
1.16 Cyprus (1 player / 0.780 million)
0.78 Czech Republic (8 players / 10.241 millions)
0.66 Croatia (3 players / 4.495 millions)
0.48 Belgium (5 players / 10.364 millions)
0.44 Sweden (2 players / 9.001 millions)
0.26 Switzerland (2 players / 7.489 millions)
0.25 Argentina (10 players / 39.537 millions)
0.24 Spain (10 players / 40.341 millions)
0.19 Finland (1 player / 5.223 millions)

:worship: :eek: Go Luxembourg! :eek: :worship:

lau
11-22-2005, 08:48 PM
Spain actual population is more than 44 million ;) http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2005/11/19/sociedad/1132361874.html And I didn´t know Argentina already had 39.5, I though there were aprox 37 m, but I guess I`m wrong. (I knew an Argentine 40.5 m population is expected in 2010)

BATES
11-23-2005, 01:04 AM
Spain actual population is more than 44 million ;) http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2005/11/19/sociedad/1132361874.html And I didn´t know Argentina already had 39.5, I though there were aprox 37 m, but I guess I`m wrong. (I knew an Argentine 40.5 m population is expected in 2010)

Yeah, I know Argentina is not really over 38 millions. But I took the info from http://www.census.gov/ipc/www/idbrank.html, where they make an estimation of the countries population.
And I considered that if they were mistaken with Arg. they could be mistaken with the othe countries also. Anyway, there wouldn't be major variations in that ranking. Maybe Arg over Switzerland, but no more.

niko
11-23-2005, 01:39 AM
I should say it has to do with the climate, Argentina and Spain have perfect conditions for tennis. Of course it has also to do with national programs, for example in the States there's no such a thing it has to do with how wealthy your parents are. I live in Midwest lots of courts around but only one indoor club with 6 courts and mainly taken by USTA players. It cost me $300 a month to coach my son 9years old and I have to say with Argentina & Spain type of climate I'd not have to spend a penny, if he does well I won't have enough money to support him to be in the cuircuit.

Action Jackson
11-23-2005, 02:20 AM
Impressive performance by Belgium.

When they can make the Davis Cup final 7 times in a row like the Swedes from 83-89 did with a population of less than Belgium, then you will see how impressive that performance was from a small country. In 86 they had 7 of the top 21 players in the world, that is outstanding.

Federerthebest
11-23-2005, 02:21 AM
Australia should have at least four by the end of next year. Guccione is still only 20, he has time to get in the top 100; though he does have a somewhat limited game - i.e. a serve and nothing else - so his place is 50-100. I also think Flip and Arthurs will come back into the top-100 next year. Reid sucks, I don't see him getting anywhere.