Nico throws a fit

08-01-2002, 12:04 AM
What happened after the Lapentti/Roddick match? They showed the boys getting into it after the match. Apparently Nico thought Roddick was faking his cramps?

Anybody have any ideas?

08-01-2002, 12:28 AM
Roddick was faking cramps. no-one is cramping one minute and then start running like a fricking gazelle the next. it was oneupmanship at its worst and Nico had every right to be pissed. :fiery: now over to the RodPrick depreciation thread i go! :mad:

08-01-2002, 12:39 AM

08-01-2002, 01:23 AM
Okay, now that Pete's match is over, they're showing the match on ESPN2 where Andy supposedly started cramping. He looked good in that last game (5-4) and suddenly is calling the trainer . . .

08-01-2002, 01:30 AM
Looks like he got a massage for his calves, but he's walking around normally. Okay, he's also getting bitchy with the chair umpire.

I've never seen cramps treated where the massage stayed completely below the knees. I can definitely see where Nico is coming from.

08-01-2002, 01:30 AM
God, i can't stand Roddick. What a drama queen..:rolleyes:

08-01-2002, 01:31 AM
Yes, he had a point. Its weird like he ALWAYS cramps...
Nico got mad and took the oportunity to congratulate him on the wonder of running like that under cramps... :rolleyes:

08-01-2002, 01:33 AM
I like Roddick okay, but geez. A lot of the players I've seen have been getting uppity with the chairs, for one. Have these guys not gotten laid in awhile? ;)

08-01-2002, 01:35 AM
Roddick=Drama Queen. :rolleyes:

Ugh. I can't stand him. What a minger. :rolleyes:

08-01-2002, 01:35 AM
If he's faking it, he should be kicked off the tour. It's for adults.

If he's not, he should quit. Any tennis player that can't play a second round match without cramping shouldn't be playing on the tour.

08-01-2002, 01:35 AM
Total minger!

08-01-2002, 01:37 AM
I like your point, Scott. In both ways he sucks. lol :o

08-01-2002, 01:37 AM
Drama Queen...Pfttt :rolleyes: We're not in pre-school Andy :rolleyes:

08-01-2002, 01:40 AM
If he was really cramping as badly as he said he was, there's NO WAY he would be running the way the was.

08-01-2002, 01:51 AM
Okay, okay, okay. Enough with the bashing, take it to the Deprecation thread. I think the point was made.

08-01-2002, 02:46 AM

This Thread= Serious Roddick hatred that is unprecedented. He is great for men's tennis and brings in a whole different crowd of teenage boys that would not be interested in tennis otherwise (except maybe Kournikova). Nico is a sore looser. Does he really feel that he could have won the match? I will answer that. No. Nicolas has a good forehand, but Roddick's is better. Roddick has a much better serve and a much better backhand. Both move equally as well. The crowd was not the difference in this match, Roddick's game was whether or not everyone here will admit it or not. Go ahead and hate me as much as you want. I really don't care and you will just be wasting your time. The truth does, afterall, hurt others and cause trouble to those who preach it.

08-01-2002, 02:56 AM
How do you explain Roddick being cramping once every two matches he plays then? I mean, he is young and all energetic. Thats too paradoxal to be happening all the time.
Im fair, usually. I praised him when he won that match against Chang at Roland Garros. But I wont buy a newspaper that every day contains the same headlines. As simple as that.
And theres no need to take our arguments as personal attacks. Please, this will lead ATPworld´s GM to be transformed in a hell like the WTAworld´s one. I guess its not of anyone´s interest if that happens.
Thanks for your opinion. :wavey:

08-01-2002, 02:58 AM
two words for Nico: SORE LOSER!

08-01-2002, 03:02 AM
nice response hitman. i feel ya. ;) ;)

Lucas Arg
08-01-2002, 06:21 AM
TWO WORDS FOR ANDY: FU.. OFF:fiery: :fiery: :fiery:

08-01-2002, 06:46 AM
Roddick, Lapentti separated as tempers soar
By Steve Keating

TORONTO (Reuters) - ATP officials had to separate Andy Roddick and Nicolas Lapentti after the American's 6-4 3-6 7-6 (7-5) second-round win over the Ecuadorean at the $2.95 million Canada Tennis Masters ended in an ugly shouting match.

As the two players left the court at the end of a two-hour 18-minute encounter played in searing heat, Lapentti accused Roddick of exaggerating leg cramps late in the third set and of playing mind games.

With tempers reaching boiling point, officials stepped in to separate the pair as they argued at the net and escorted a seething Lapentti off the court.

"I think tennis is a sport where you have to be a gentleman," said the unseeded Lapentti. "Andy is a great player and I told him that, but I also told him you don't have to act like you're cramping to take the match.

"It's not the first time he's done it. He did it against (Michael) Chang at the French Open.

"I am sure he had cramps. But, when you have cramps like he did and you almost fall to the floor, you can't come back and hit an overhead like he did twice, or run for a drop shot like he did," said Lapentti.

"I'm saying he's faking it, he's playing with my mind. It's very unsportsmanlike what he did. He tried to win with something else but tennis."

"He is young and he's going to be out there for a while, someone has to teach him."

Roddick, cramping badly in last year's French Open, bravely outlasted Chang in a five-set, second-round marathon.

The 19-year-old American found himself in similar distress late in his match with Lapentti, calling for the trainer at 5-4 in the third set.

"I don't want him to be mad at me, it was nothing intentional," said Roddick.

"I guess he was expressing his disappointment in me calling the trainer at 5-4 in the third. But I'd like to think most players on the tour would do the same thing if it meant staying in the match.

"I'm sure that maybe in a week or two we'll be able to talk about it when it's not the heat of the moment," added the 12th seed.

He's so noble.

08-01-2002, 08:39 AM
In Yahoo it quotes Roddick as saying 'I did what I had to do in order to win the match...' Hmm.

08-01-2002, 08:52 AM
poor Nico, he should send Giovanni around to sort him out ;)

08-01-2002, 08:53 AM
I like Andy but I think this time, he has gone a bit too far, I must admit he is a bit of a drama queen!

08-01-2002, 10:52 AM
I watched the match and it seemed like the cramps were for real!

Also I get these weird cramps in one of my calves all the time. There's no way to explain it and they go away after a few minutes of rubbing my leg. It doesn't affect my thighs at all or my other calf. And when I do get them, it really hurts. And they just come whenever... they've woken me up in the middle of the night more than once. Anyways I play volleyball and once during a game last year I got a cramp and my coach had to take me out of the game but after a couple of minutes it was gone and I was fine to play again!

the cat
08-01-2002, 11:45 AM
Unfortunately Andy Roddick has a history of leg problems. I hope he can get into better shape in the future. But the problem is the heat and playing on hard courts. It's a problem on the legs. I speak from first hand experience. Heat and hard courts is a bad combination! :mad:

Princess Fiona
08-01-2002, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by TheBoiledEgg
poor Nico, he should send Giovanni around to sort him out ;)

Yup! And I'll go with Giovanni to sort him out! :p ;)

I did not see the match...

08-01-2002, 01:20 PM
:D :D :D :D :D

08-01-2002, 01:20 PM
I Really feel sorry for all those people who's life is so empty and meaningless that they find pleasure in calling Andy names and just being immature, GROW up all Andy haters, l mean come you are really acting like Nico did yesterday!!!!!!! May be the reason why Nico is not in the top 20 is because he is a sore looser!!!!

08-01-2002, 01:59 PM
Hey...i'm not a Roddick fan...but i have had cramps like that while playing all the time. They don't last very long, but the muscles in the calves do tighten and pull up...and it hurts like a mother f*cker. If he's faking or not...i have no idea. Cramps like those do exist though. I don't think Lapentti should have reacted like that though. He thought that Roddick's drama queen antics made Roddick look unsportsman like, then his behaviour makes him looks worst.

08-01-2002, 02:22 PM
I probably shouldn't be posting this, because I enjoy the odd Roddick bashing as much as the next guy (or gal), but Nico should be more careful about throwing round accusations like that. I can imagine how much they can hurt. I'm still fuming when I remember how Gaudio (and apparently some other players as well) suggested that Ferrero didn't really hurt his ankle in RG. I read his interview and he was really crushed that other players have such a low opinion of him to suggest something like that. The fact that you have an injury hampering your play is hard enough to bear without the humiliation of being called an imposter. Bad judgment on Nico's part.

08-01-2002, 03:14 PM
But you can't run for a drop shot from behing the baseline and hit a winner. It's's hard to do without cramps! Imagine with cramps!

Nico has a point! He changed is strategy to play against a player that was hurt... Started to play drop shot and lobs just to see Andy hit winners off everything! That's not fair!!!

And please...stay civilise all posters!

08-01-2002, 04:52 PM
mboyle & grag, I agree that the bashing got a bit out of hand, but they took it to their own thread, so no need to get your panties in a twist over here ;)

I think Roddick was being dramatic during the tiebreak, and like I said before I've never seen a player cramp in just his calves. Charley horses hurt like hell, but they can also be so severe that you can't walk before they go away.

I think Nico threw off his smart remark after the match, but Andy didn't have to respond like he did. It's obvious Nico was angry, and I don't blame him, but Andy could have been a bigger man and not responded and tried to pick the fight.

They're both in the wrong, but Roddick brought it on himself by responding, in my opinion.

As for Juan Carlos at Roland Garros, it was Nicolas Coutelot that said Juanqui was faking his ankle because Juan Carlos beat him in five sets, and Coutelot said there was no way he could have played five sets with an ankle injury. THAT was being a sore loser, because everyone knew Juan Carlos was taken to the hospital and treated!

08-01-2002, 06:27 PM
Did not see yesterdays match, so have no idea if he was faking it.
Did see the 1 at RG vs Chang & don't think he was faking then.
It could have been gamesmanship yesterday but I reckon all the players know what the reaction was to Alberto Martin doing exactly the same in the 1st round at the Australian Open vs Hewitt. He was 2-1 sets up, 4th set tiebreak & winning the tie-break and just as Hewitt was about to serve he took an injury time-out for cramps. He got away with it - other players are going to try it.

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2002, 05:13 AM
A lot of the players I've seen have been getting uppity with the chairs, for one. Have these guys not gotten laid in awhile?

In truth, some of the calls, in a lot of matches that I saw, were dreadful. So I dont blame them :o

Nicolas Coutelot, btw, was just bitter because he had hoped Ferrero would have to default, and he realized that it was the only hope in hell he would ever have of beating Juan Carlos.

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2002, 05:20 AM
Moving to the topic at hand -

I started out sitting about 15 rows back, but by the last set I was in the front row, behind Lapentti's chair and over a couple feet.

So I was damn close.

I watched the whole match. not once did I notice Andy in pain. I didn't even know why he called the trainer, untill I read in the paper this morning how apparently hobbled he was :rolleyes:

Like I said, I watched the whole match (and I was rooting for Andy btw) and noticed nothing. I couldn't figure out why the trainer was called - he looked the same before, as he did after.

He argued with the ref earlier in the match, and it was amusing. The ref told him to calm down and Andy said something like "I've been trying VERY hard, and I've been being VERY nice. So just stop iit!!!!" then it put up the hand, turned and walked away not letting the ref finished.

I was willing to let that go, assuming it was a young hormonal thing ;) That, and lots of players get pissed like that with the refs.

So anyways, the match ended, they shokehands, and Andy started to turn away, when Lapenttie said something - my freind was standing behind the chair cause she wanted an autograph and said it was basically Lapentti telling Roddick he wasn't a good sport, and pointing out that Roddicks ace at the end was actually out.

I couldnt' hear it all, because Nico was calm and quiet. Andy I could hear word for word mind you :p He even said "fine, so are you going to be a shitty sport?" and yes, he did say "shitty sport", but the rest is paraphrased.

The ref kept saying "Andy, the match is over, Andy, the match is over", and Andy looked like he was ready to jump over the net and throw a punch or something (good thing he didn't, Lapentti looks to be the stronger of the two).

Anyhow, I think Nico's timing to point this out was tacky. But Roddick acted liek a bully on the playground or something - he got totally defensive and acted like a total ass. Nico turned his back a couplee times and Andy kept talking at him, it was ridiculous.

Then he didn't even sign for one kid - I have never ever seen someone not sign when they won the match, untill this :(

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2002, 05:23 AM
I just wanted to emphasize that I was ten or 15 feet away from the players, and didnt notice his cramps that were so apparently hobbling, according to some reports that I read.

I didn't notice them once.

And i was that close.

However, I dont doubt perhaps he was in pain, but the reports saying it limited his movement are wrong, unless his movement was limited for the entire match and warmup, and the match I saw the day before that, and the match I saw against koubek today.

08-02-2002, 09:01 AM
Yeah I have to back you up Becca the commentators here on the match poined out that they and I saw no visible signs of any injury when he called the trainer. Nico's comment was ill advised but Andy wouldn't let it go.

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2002, 05:17 PM
I'm still a little appalled that Andy wouldn't sign for even one young kid - he won! I've never ever seen a player do that :o

08-02-2002, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by Rebecca

In truth, some of the calls, in a lot of matches that I saw, were dreadful. So I dont blame them

I agree the line-calling has been abismal, but some of the players have gotten a little too bratty, especially when they go to the chair after every little call. The chair umpire on the first day (I don't remember who it was) was also pretty fiery and I couldn't believe some of the things he was saying.

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2002, 05:19 PM
Pete is such a funny drama queen when he doesn't like a call :p

Andy protests sometimes, its funny - he once went up to the ref and asked why he didn't call a let and the ref was like "I dont know, but I thought I heard sometime" and Andy was like "yeah, it was the ball off the top off the net".

He's a mouthy one he is :o lol

Enqvist and Ferrero were both ready to kill the ump, they were funny!

08-02-2002, 05:21 PM
Pete gets a really solemn look on his face lmao! His Don't be such a smart-ass comment to the ump in the Lee match had me LMAO! :p

Chloe le Bopper
08-02-2002, 05:25 PM
yeah i saw that one :o Well I saw it on TV, I didn't see him play Lee though.

I was watching something else :confused:

Rios Moya maybe?

It was hilarious during the Ferreira match, Pete served what he thought was an ace on match point, but it was called out.

Pete walks to the net, stares at the point, and puts his hand to his head again *snickers*

Well when he turned around, Wayne walks to a point half way between the service line and baseline and taps it with his racquet, indicating that that was how much Pete's serve was out ;)