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Who Will Win: (1) Andy Roddick vs (6) Ivan Ljubicic- The Rematch of Davis Cup

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 07:40 PM
The match we all have been waiting for. waiting for 8 months :lol: before today i thought Andy would of won, but now that he has back problem it should be a good match, since Ivan is tired(according to admin of his website, Ivan gets wounds on his lips when he is really tired, had those today, but also he says they go away in day and he is feeling fine :confused: )

Dirk
11-04-2005, 07:41 PM
I need Andy to win so I can have vcash for Cup but I think Ivan will do it.

BiancaUL
11-04-2005, 07:43 PM
I wonder if Andy's even going to play.

He looked really rough out there today with whatever was wrong with his back.

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 07:48 PM
I wonder if Andy's even going to play.

He looked really rough out there today with whatever was wrong with his back.

He will play :) and hopefully get BEAT :)

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 07:52 PM
Can a mod, but this and NYC thread into one :)

BiancaUL
11-04-2005, 07:53 PM
Meheheheh.

If he attempts to and he's not in any better shape tomorrow than he was today, he's not just going to lose, he's going to get his ass kicked.

bavaria100
11-04-2005, 07:53 PM
I don´t know. When I look back at Andy´s matches, it seems as if he´s destined to win this tourney. He already should/could have lost twice this week, but somehow made it through (be it with the help of his opponents or by good play on the big points). I hope that Ivan makes it because he played terrific in the last few weeks and he really deserves to win a TMS this season.

Jimnik
11-04-2005, 08:08 PM
GO ANDY. :banana:

Deliver the long overdue Masters Series Shield.

Black Adam
11-04-2005, 08:09 PM
Want Andy to revenge what happened in March but I don't mind Ivan making TMC. I hope it's a great match.

1sun
11-04-2005, 08:36 PM
ivan

Donny
11-04-2005, 08:45 PM
Whatever the outcome tomorrow (and Sunday if he makes it), Andy's "got" to consider this TMS an accomplishment*. Two matches where he fought like hell and won rather than imploding, sandwiching a "wow" match where the fruits of his recent labors shined brightly.

That said, my prediction is that a healthy Andy wins in two over bulbous head tomorrow.

(*an accomplishment as long as Andy doesn't end up with a lingering injury that knocks him out of Shanghai)

*Viva Chile*
11-04-2005, 08:53 PM
I like both, but I think Ljubo will win again this time. Andy played like crap the first set today against Ferrer and it seems his back pain affected his game in this part of the match.

celia
11-04-2005, 09:07 PM
i voted Lbj but not with confidence. Roddick has fresher legs despite this three-setter against Ferrer.

Angle Queen
11-04-2005, 09:09 PM
Want => Roddick
Will => Ljubicic

Peoples
11-04-2005, 09:15 PM
A-Rod.

Sjengster
11-04-2005, 09:17 PM
Want => Roddick
Will => Ljubicic

And for me vice versa, unfortunately.

tennismaster882001
11-04-2005, 09:24 PM
Ivan will win this tournament!!!

Neely
11-04-2005, 09:42 PM
With Andy's back, I don't like his chances to be honest :(
He did well to beat Ferrer and to fight back, but Ljubicic is a different caliber than Ferrer at this time of the season on this underground.

Grinder
11-04-2005, 09:43 PM
Ivan will win 6-2 6-4, Andy had a lot of trouble against Ferrer and he played like shit. His injury won't be much help either.

RogiFan88
11-04-2005, 09:45 PM
I'm going for my guy! ;)

tennismaster882001
11-04-2005, 09:46 PM
The only thing that matters is winning and Andy shouldn't be underrastimated!

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 10:19 PM
Ljubicic-Roddick
Can Andy Roddick stop Ivan Ljubicic? The task looks extremely hard, considering the quality of tennis shown by the Croatian this year. In the last few weeks, he has captured two ATP events (Metz and Vienna), and came very close two weeks ago, to adding the ATP Masters Series Madrid to his list of wins. There, he only bowed in the final, 7-6 in the final set, to the world n°2 Rafael Nadal.

For Ljubicic, the key word is confidence. Having worked extremely hard with Italian coach Ricardo Piatti, he is playing as though nothing can happen to him. His huge serve, his physical condition, and the power he can generate on his shots are weapons on which he knows he can rely. Although it is already likely that he has secured a spot for the Tennis Masters Cup in Shanghai, he is keen on going all the way in Bercy in order to put all the chances on his side, as well as capturing his first ever ATP Masters Series.

On Friday night, Andy Roddick saved two match points before miraculously escaping defeat against an extremely inspired David Ferrer. Although he dropped his serve for the first time in eight matches (three times!) Roddick’s near-defeat may give him extra energy to try and earn his spot in the final. But he knows the value of his opponent, as Ljubicic won their last encounter, this year, in a thrilling Davis Cup tie

:)

Billabong
11-04-2005, 10:20 PM
GOOOOOOOO IVANNNNNNN:bounce:!!!!!

mangoes
11-04-2005, 10:22 PM
Well, I like Andy, but I'm pulling for Ljubicic. I don't think Andy was really injured out there today, so I think he will be fresher than Ljubicic and that worries me for Ljubicic.

I just hope Ljubicic can summon the energy for two more matches.

MissMoJo
11-04-2005, 10:28 PM
It's best of 3, so i'll say Ljubicic

ReturnWinner
11-04-2005, 10:31 PM
Ivan in two sets :rocker:

mangoes
11-04-2005, 10:42 PM
Andy's going to want to avenge his davis cup loss, so I'm not going to count him out so quickly.

RonE
11-04-2005, 10:49 PM
Can't wait to see this one!

I am hoping Ljubicic will pull this one out, I really want to see him win a TMS finally.

As for who will win it, tough to say. I only saw Ivan's match today and there were times when he looked dead on his feet but Roddick doesn't seem to be in such hot shape either. Tough to call. But I want and I think Ivan will pull it out in 3 sets.

Whatever happens in this match, I want the winner to win the whole event.

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 10:51 PM
vBookie has Ivan as favor to win the match :confused:

Sjengster
11-04-2005, 11:00 PM
Can't wait to see this one!

I am hoping Ljubicic will pull this one out, I really want to see him win a TMS finally.

As for who will win it, tough to say. I only saw Ivan's match today and there were times when he looked dead on his feet but Roddick doesn't seem to be in such hot shape either. Tough to call. But I want and I think Ivan will pull it out in 3 sets.

Whatever happens in this match, I want the winner to win the whole event.

Come on Ron, surely you don't want Rumplestiltskin to fall through the floorboards for the second year in a row? :confused:

RonE
11-04-2005, 11:03 PM
Come on Ron, surely you don't want Rumplestiltskin to fall through the floorboards for the second year in a row? :confused:

Assuming he makes it past the Birdman ;)

Sjengster
11-04-2005, 11:04 PM
Assuming he makes it past the Birdman ;)

True, I can only hope he does, but hey - if Tomas gets to the final, then everybody really has heard about the Berd. ;)

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 11:05 PM
So this is the final, i mean really :lol: just have Birdman and Radek as a warm up for the final

RonE
11-04-2005, 11:10 PM
True, I can only hope he does, but hey - if Tomas gets to the final, then everybody really has heard about the Berd. ;)

He will have flown the coop.

But on a serious note, I wouldn't discount any of the semifinalists at this point. Ivan looked exhausted during that 2nd set against Robredo. From what has been posted Roddick looked down and out. Berdych and Stepanek are both very tricky moreso on a fast indoor carpet court- it's anyone's title.

celia
11-04-2005, 11:23 PM
With Andy's back, I don't like his chances to be honest :(

what's wrong with his back?

is it certain that there is a problem?

(i didn't see the match).

El Legenda
11-04-2005, 11:25 PM
what's wrong with his back?

is it certain that there is a problem?

(i didn't see the match).

you didnt see when he called the trainer? or that Ferrer got to 30 or bp almost everytime andy served?

musefanatic
11-04-2005, 11:38 PM
I go for andy cos i think his serve will be a key part in it.

PaulieM
11-04-2005, 11:39 PM
want= ivan
will= andy

Rogiman
11-04-2005, 11:46 PM
If I were Roddick I wouldn't show up tomorrow, because Ivan is going to give him a rectal check of the ugliest kind.
By the time Ivan is done with Roddick, Andy will have been unable to walk.

Go Ivan the awesome.

El Legenda
11-05-2005, 03:02 AM
Go Ljubo :) Just WIN :)

El Legenda
11-05-2005, 03:21 AM
Outcome Odds Total Bets Total Staked Stake
Ivan Ljubicic 4/6 F (0.67) 8 2915
Andy Roddick 5/4 (1.25) 17 1245

According to the vBookie of MTF, roddick is the underdog :confused:

shotgun
11-05-2005, 03:36 AM
Just deal with it, Jerry! :p

Billy Moonshine
11-05-2005, 07:44 AM
Andy will win.

blosson
11-05-2005, 09:11 AM
According to the vBookie of MTF, roddick is the underdog :confused:

Oh no, if he is the favourite then your vcash share diminushes isn't it? :lol:

Papakori
11-05-2005, 10:44 AM
Ivan wilL!

Horatio Caine
11-05-2005, 11:16 AM
Egghead v Quackhead...

Shouldn't the Duck rule the roost? :lol:

RonE
11-05-2005, 12:14 PM
If I were Roddick I wouldn't show up tomorrow, because Ivan is going to give him a rectal check of the ugliest kind.
By the time Ivan is done with Roddick, Andy will have been unable to walk.

Go Ivan the awesome.

:haha:

The daily tip from our rezident proctologist. :lol:

Will you be there on site to make sure the treatment is administered properly? ;)

Fedex
11-05-2005, 01:01 PM
Ljubicic

adee-gee
11-05-2005, 01:07 PM
Hopefully Roddick, but unless his back has made a miraculous recovery I don't think he stands much of a chance.

His best hope is probably serving his way to a tie break, and then hoping for a few mistakes from Ljubo.

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 01:13 PM
Hopefully Roddick, but unless his back has made a miraculous recovery I don't think he stands much of a chance.

His best hope is probably serving his way to a tie break, and then hoping for a few mistakes from Ljubo.
One look at Roddick's tie-break record this year should be enough for you to change your mind.

Run and hide, Ducky.

*Ljubica*
11-05-2005, 01:14 PM
I really want Ivan win - but I worry that now he has qualified for the Masters' there might be some reaction and he might relax and let Roddick in. I also partly agee with what bavaria100 said - that The Duck has almost left this tournament twice (against Dent and Ferrer), but somehow clung on - so maybe it's his "destiny" to win this one. Hope not though - Ajmo Ivane :)

Action Jackson
11-05-2005, 01:15 PM
I think Ivan's warm fuzzy feelings for Roddick, should be enough to push through any tiredness barriers, he has everything in his favour to win here, but probably won't.

Jimnik
11-05-2005, 01:16 PM
Tie-breakers will be the key. Andy has to start winning them. In their 7 meetings, the winner of this match-up has almost always been the winner of the tie-breakers.

Ivo's recent tie-break record is much better than Andy's.

Winston's Human
11-05-2005, 01:19 PM
While my heart hopes Andy, my head says Ivan will win this match.

I believe that this match will come down to the mental game, and Ivan has been much stronger mentally than Andy as of late.

Jimnik
11-05-2005, 01:22 PM
While my heart hopes Andy, my head says Ivan will win this match.

I believe that this match will come down to the mental game, and Ivan has been much stronger mentally than Andy as of late.
Andy wasn't too bad mentally against Dent and Ferrer. But off course this will be much harder because of the history between these two.

Grenouille
11-05-2005, 01:23 PM
i think ljubicic will win it but will cheer for andyyyyyy

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 01:24 PM
I want to see a butchered duck, Ivan.

adee-gee
11-05-2005, 01:26 PM
One look at Roddick's tie-break record this year should be enough for you to change your mind.

Run and hide, Ducky.
29-24 or something is it not?

Jimnik
11-05-2005, 01:29 PM
Now that Ljubo has qualified for Shanghai, there is a 50-50 chance that the two will meet again in Shanghai in a couple of weeks. :scared: I'm not sure which match I'd rather see Andy win, if I had a choice (off course one player could win both meetings).

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 01:29 PM
29-24 or something is it not?
Pretty much, yeah, which is a horrible record for someone living and dying on his serve, let alone when he faces a player who is every bit the big server he is.

adee-gee
11-05-2005, 01:33 PM
Pretty much, yeah, which is a horrible record for someone living and dying on his serve, let alone when he faces a player who is every bit the big server he is.
If it goes to a tie break, its pretty much 50-50 with these 2 I'd say. I still say it's probably Andy's only chance, I really don't see him breaking Ivan :shrug:

adee-gee
11-05-2005, 02:11 PM
There goes my plan. Andy broken straight away :rolleyes:

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 02:12 PM
Ljubo breaks on Ducky's 1st service game.

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 02:13 PM
Roddick must have served out of his ass.

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 02:32 PM
1st set goes to Ljubo in 25 minutes....

Horatio Caine
11-05-2005, 02:39 PM
29-24 or something is it not?

I think he has a losing record doesn't he? If not then it can only be around 55% success rate. :scared:

Action Jackson
11-05-2005, 02:44 PM
I think he has a losing record doesn't he? If not then it can only be around 55% success rate. :scared:

Well Ljubo really should take it here, but strange things happen.

adee-gee
11-05-2005, 02:57 PM
The 2nd set is going according to plan :)

Rogiman
11-05-2005, 02:58 PM
Ljubicic is going to win this in a TB.

adee-gee
11-05-2005, 03:06 PM
Andy broken at 5-5, all over

Purple Rainbow
11-05-2005, 03:07 PM
Ljubicic is going to win this in a TB.

Probably not even. Ljubo is serving to win the second set 7-5.

shotgun
11-06-2005, 06:58 PM
So this is the final, i mean really :lol: just have Birdman and Radek as a warm up for the final

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