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Jo-Wilfried Tsonga! Alias "Jo Jo" (the Manceau deserves his own thread!)

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~EMiLiTA~
01-25-2008, 01:13 PM
Hey guys, I did a small interview with a friend of Jo's in September 2005 and put it on my site...it's not all about Jo, just a few questions, but it's still interesting to see, now that he's done so well! It's here (http://www.geocities.com/atp_chica3/Raphael_Caillaud_Interview.html) if you're interested

amdany
01-25-2008, 05:46 PM
thanks Emilita:D

TMJordan
01-25-2008, 05:48 PM
Hey guys, I did a small interview with a friend of Jo's in September 2005 and put it on my site...it's not all about Jo, just a few questions, but it's still interesting to see, now that he's done so well! It's here (http://www.geocities.com/atp_chica3/Raphael_Caillaud_Interview.html) if you're interested
:) Thank you :worship:

nouf
01-25-2008, 10:40 PM
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=gjWGs44qpvY

lisaplenske
01-26-2008, 10:02 AM
I hope Jo to beat the arrogant and annoying djokovic tomorrow.

I watched his match against federer, the swiss was not as his best but the serbian was really solid from the back of the court.
Federer was not agressive enough,not coming to the net,not as fast as he used to be.
The keys for Jo is to make what federer didnt do in semi finale,going for his shots,coming to the net and overpower djokovic like he did against nadal.Not let him play.
Will be hard but not impossible.

GO JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!:bounce::bounce::b ounce:

merci nouf for the vid:)

scotthongkong
01-26-2008, 10:56 AM
Wow! You must all be so proud of Jo-Wifried in France. Be careful though as tomorrow I think we will be calling him Aussie Jo!!! The Australian crowds are going crazy for him and rightly so. What a talented young man...and very charming too. Congratulations to you all on your wonderful efforts generally at the Australian Open. Yours is the most dynamic tennis country by far.

martine2
01-26-2008, 01:19 PM
Hey guys, I did a small interview with a friend of Jo's in September 2005 and put it on my site...it's not all about Jo, just a few questions, but it's still interesting to see, now that he's done so well! It's here (http://www.geocities.com/atp_chica3/Raphael_Caillaud_Interview.html) if you're interested

Nice article :yeah:

Let's hope now Jo will stay calm and focused for the final tomorrow. He's got nothing to lose because, no matter the result of the final, he'll always come out as a winner because of the achievements in Melbourne. He has to go for it just like he did in the semis.

Bonne chance Jo :yeah:

Ceze
01-26-2008, 02:11 PM
Good luck tomorrow Jo :bounce:

scotthongkong
01-27-2008, 05:56 AM
Wishing you all the luck in the world for the final Jo-Wilfried!

Michael_21
01-27-2008, 06:01 AM
GOOO TSONGA good luck 2 night master tsonga :D

Michael_21
01-27-2008, 06:21 AM
does anyone know of a jo sight that is in english ?

martine2
01-27-2008, 07:30 AM
It's about to start! BONNE CHANCE JO!!!

nouf
01-27-2008, 09:21 AM
end set1 final ao 2008 tsonga vs djokovic awesome point!!!!!!
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=gwcmPxbPeK4

TMJordan
01-27-2008, 11:04 AM
Great 2 weeks from Jo :worship:

I know he will be back and will win another time!

blosson
01-27-2008, 12:00 PM
I came here to congratulate Tsonga and his fans and wow he doesn't have a forum of his own??? Surely he now deserves one.

It was a fantastic effort. I hope he can keep this level of tennis and be featured regularly amongst the top players. :yeah:

lisaplenske
01-27-2008, 02:14 PM
Sorry for jo cause he couldnt beat djokovic today to grab his first GS.He started very well but then lost his "punch" and intensity.Djokovic played very well so never easy.He had a chance in the 4th set with that break point but didnt make the good choice.Djokovic t solid there,more experience at this stage...
Well,thank youjo for this incredible tennis,the semi final was so :eek:,thank you for destroying nadal that way:D:p:devil:

congrats and welcome in the top20!you deserve it:yeah:

Jelena_78
01-27-2008, 03:17 PM
Tsonga boy!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations !!! Two amazing weeks of tennis!:worship:

I'm impressed with his game and performance throughout the whole tournament!
Not just beating Murray,Gasquet,Youzhny,Nadal...but beating them in style!!!
I heard he was unlucky with injuries in past and I hope that he'll be fit and healthy in future...cause tennis got an amazing player! We enjoyed watching you!
Good luck in the rest of the season! I hope there will be more finals and titles in future!
This time it was our Novak... Jo was close too,and if he had won,it would have been absolutely deserved!

Allez Tsonga!:clap2:

knight_ley
01-27-2008, 05:22 PM
Congrats to everyone who's been following Tsonga! I hadn't seen him play before this Australian Open and, as he done with everyone else who's seen him, he's made me a fan. Good luck to him with the rest of his career. I hope he's at the top to stay because he's a refreshing face to see as a regular on the tour. :)

martine2
01-27-2008, 07:15 PM
Congrats to Jo for a great tournament!!
Let's hope he can stay injury free now so we can enjoy much more of his great game :yeah:

amdany
01-27-2008, 07:18 PM
congrats to JO for these amazing 2 weeks:worship:
Good luck for the rest of the year!!!

2moretogo
01-27-2008, 07:58 PM
Congrats to JO and his fans; he is truly a joy to watch out there. Continued success throughout many seasons to come.

Bremen
01-27-2008, 09:46 PM
I wish there were more pictures in this thread...he's kinda hot...

Tanya
01-27-2008, 09:48 PM
Congratulation JO and his fans with Ausse final!!!

These fotos are from Kremlin Cup-07 from Moscow!
http://www.rustennisplayers.ru/images/KC_2007/Tsonga.html

Cyril S.
01-27-2008, 10:17 PM
Congrats to Jo!:worship:
With this final, Jo could finish French player N°1 at the ATP ranking 2008.
A great suspens, and lot of motivation for Jo, Richard and Paulo:D

Viken01
01-27-2008, 10:27 PM
looks like tsonga inspired a lot of people, even rappers :D

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsblnDFe20

don't know if I post it on GM :lol:

Michael_21
01-28-2008, 12:27 AM
well done jo unlucky almost got bak in the match but ohh well good luck in the next tournament GOOO TSONGA!!!!!!!!!!

Clara Bow
01-28-2008, 03:36 AM
A little belated but great tournament for Jo and I hope this just catapults him to greater success in the future. Lovely game and an adorable guy.

scotthongkong
01-28-2008, 01:31 PM
Didn't the Aussies go nutso over him!

Månu
01-28-2008, 06:40 PM
Still no thread? :confused:

Saumon
01-28-2008, 06:49 PM
Jo will be on "Le Grand Journal" tomorrow. :)

Månu
01-28-2008, 06:49 PM
Woaw! :eek: Dreamlike. I didn't know his girlfriend was the Luxembourgish player Lilibel, tahnks for the info.

She wasn't there at the AO, was she?

Truc
01-28-2008, 06:51 PM
Still no thread? :confused:Well, this is his thread. ^^ It always takes a lot of time on MTF to get a player forum.

amdany
01-28-2008, 07:20 PM
looks like tsonga inspired a lot of people, even rappers :D

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=vfsblnDFe20



I like it:D

amdany
01-29-2008, 08:58 AM
I wish there were more pictures in this thread...he's kinda hot...

there are tons of pics on his site:)
http://frenchballs.loco-web.com/tsonga/page_photos.htm

Ome
01-29-2008, 11:16 AM
Jo arrived at Orly airport:

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/2004/290108tsongaorly09nf3.jpg http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/9940/290108tsongaorly10kv9.jpg http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2415/290108tsongaorly12od3.jpg

More pictures can be found here: http://www.m6info.fr/cms/display.jsp?id=ri2_789624

*julie*
01-29-2008, 03:50 PM
He couldn't find anyone else rather than Bîmes to pick him up at the airport? :tape:

lilibel13
01-29-2008, 06:29 PM
He couldn't find anyone else rather than Bîmes to pick him up at the airport? :tape:
Lol it's more bimes who find him than the opposite ( poor Jo lol)

Et d'autres pr le plaisir des yeux lol clik to enlarge
http://img184.imagevenue.com/loc406/th_34260_jo-wilfried-tsonga-est-de-retour-en-france_diaporama_122_406lo.jpg (http://img184.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=34260_jo-wilfried-tsonga-est-de-retour-en-france_diaporama_122_406lo.jpg) http://img237.imagevenue.com/loc480/th_34265_jo-wilfried-tsonga-novak-djokovic_diaporama_122_480lo.jpg (http://img237.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=34265_jo-wilfried-tsonga-novak-djokovic_diaporama_122_480lo.jpg)
http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc938/th_34268_tsonga-a-roissy_diaporama_122_938lo.jpg (http://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=34268_tsonga-a-roissy_diaporama_122_938lo.jpg) http://img165.imagevenue.com/loc1072/th_34271_un-pur-bonheur_actus_122_1072lo.jpg (http://img165.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=34271_un-pur-bonheur_actus_122_1072lo.jpg)

Ome
01-30-2008, 03:53 AM
He couldn't find anyone else rather than Bîmes to pick him up at the airport? :tape:

I agree with lilibel :lol: Actually, I was surprised that Lagardere didn't send Jo a private jet or something :rolls:

Truc
01-30-2008, 06:45 AM
Jo has nothing to do with Lagardère, he's a FFT boy and people say he has turned down some very lucrative offers of Lagardère lately. :p
The FFT is so proud. That's why Bîmes is "flaunting" with him like that. Fair enough from the FFT, as Lagardère would have done the same. But they could have sent Dominguez instead of Bîmes... :o

*julie*
01-30-2008, 08:12 AM
Nice of him to have dumped Lagardere. :worship:
Even if if doesn"t pratctice with his friends Richard, Paulo and co, he will see them in Switzerland now anyway. :p

Ome
01-30-2008, 08:48 AM
Jo has nothing to do with Lagardère, he's a FFT boy and people say he has turned down some very lucrative offers of Lagardère lately. :p
The FFT is so proud of that. That's why Bîmes is "flaunting" with him like that. Fair enough, as Lagardère would have done the same. But they could have sent Dominguez instead of Bîmes... :o

I know ;) That's exactly why I thought Lagardere might have tried to bribe Jo with a private jet :rolls:

Honestly, the first thing that I thought about after Jo made the final was, "Take that, Team Lagardere!" :lol:

Truc
01-30-2008, 12:14 PM
Oh I was pretty sure you knew, Ome, I just couldn't resist to make it clear in case other people didn't.
Lagardère would have made all the way to Melbourne in his private jet with Daddy and Mammy Tsonga AND a stopover in Congo to pick up the rest of the family.Even if if doesn"t pratctice with his friends Richard, Paulo and co, he will see them in Switzerland now anyway. :pI had a good laugh too when I saw the news about Jo's new studio appartment and his love for the Swiss nature. :lol:
There have been a couple of funny articles about it in Le Matin. Gaël apparently isn't even trying to act as if he was living there. Richie always seems to be in Paris too when L'Equipe keeps us informed about his every move. Does Paulo actually spend some time in Switzerland?
C'est ici que Tsonga s'installe! (http://www.lematin.ch/pages/home/actu/suisse/actu_suisse__1?contenu=369118&xtor=RSS-2)
Ces champions de tennis qui adorent la Suisse (http://www.lematin.ch/pages/home/actu/suisse/actu_suisse__1?contenu=369848)

Ome
01-30-2008, 12:45 PM
Oh I was pretty sure you knew, Ome, I just couldn't resist to make it clear in case other people didn't.
Lagardère would have made all the way to Melbourne in his private jet with Daddy and Mammy Tsonga AND a stopover in Congo to pick up the rest of the family.

Oh yeah, he would have... Too bad, I think it was his spa day during the final :p


Does Paulo actually spend some time in Switzerland?


From what I've read, he trains there from time to time. I'm not sure that he lives there since his beloved Porsche obviously resides in France.

*julie*
01-30-2008, 01:32 PM
There have been a couple of funny articles about it in Le Matin. Gaël apparently isn't even trying to act as if he was living there. Richie always seems to be in Paris too when L'Equipe keeps us informed about his every move. Does Paulo actually spend some time in Switzerland?

:lol: I like your sarcasm here.
He is the only top10 french player after all :devil:


From what I've read, he trains there from time to time. I'm not sure that he lives there since his beloved Porsche obviously resides in France.

Would he move to Vladivostok if his beloved Porsche was residing there? ;)

Ome
01-30-2008, 01:39 PM
Would he move to Vladivostok if his beloved Porsche was residing there? ;)

My point is that he possibly spends more time where his :smoke: car is :p

But you know what, DO NOT underestimate a man's love for his Porsche... :o :lol:

*julie*
01-30-2008, 01:44 PM
My point is that he possibly spends more time where his :smoke: car is :p

But you know what, DO NOT underestimate a man's love for his Porsche... :o :lol:

:rolls: I thought you were refering to his girlfriend actually.

Ome
01-30-2008, 02:02 PM
:rolls: I thought you were refering to his girlfriend actually.

:rolls:

Puschkin
01-30-2008, 02:36 PM
Richie always seems to be in Paris too when L'Equipe keeps us informed about his every move. Does Paulo actually spend some time in Switzerland?

Too bad that I dont get L'Equipe. :devil:

Saumon
01-30-2008, 07:09 PM
http://www.canalplus.fr/c-humour/pid1786-c-la-boite-a-questions.html?

Truc
01-31-2008, 07:11 AM
Thanks, it's really cute! :yeah:
I feel bad when I see him like that, the Tsongamania is so sick that it has been turning me off from him a bit while it's not his fault at all and he's still so nice and refreshing...

I love "C'est un tocard, je vais passer" - that's the spirit. :cool:

nikita
01-31-2008, 09:51 AM
Hallo all i have 2 questions does Jo lives in Paris or in Le mans now and why didn't his gf Many Manilla was there and support him in final-are they still together or no?! Thanks u all.

martine2
01-31-2008, 10:58 AM
Well, Melbourne isn't exactly in your back yard when you live in Luxemburg and who could predict he'd be reaching the final...
Even his parents only were there for the final.
Maybe she was playing a tournament herself :shrug:

Truc
01-31-2008, 11:06 AM
Just curious, everytime I read a post of you in a player's forum, nikita, it's about the gf. It's quite fascinating, is it just for your personal interest or are you working for some gossip website? I just checked the first page of "Find more posts of nikita" and:
David loves Ana Ivanovic??? i thought that he is married. Can anyone explane me??Tnx Carlita.OK can anyone tell me is everything OK with Coria and Carla?What happening with him?I saw with Tarpishev son Samil with 1 blond girl.I think that is her name is Polina.I want know who is she??She looks like playboy girl.Is Markos still with Cami?? I did not see her yesterday in his box??

nikita
01-31-2008, 11:41 AM
Best regards to all of u!!W

amdany
01-31-2008, 04:45 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/jo+tsonga/video/x480mi_jo-wilfried-tsonga-les-excuses-de-s_fun

Truc
01-31-2008, 05:38 PM
Thanks, it's excellent! :rolls:

Jo offering his apologies for having lost in the final. His excuses:
4. It seemed to please Djokovic so much.
3. The Paris Saint-Germain trainer gave me some tactical advice just before the match.
2. I was afraid my father would jump onto the court and do his ankle in if I won.
And the number one excuse:
1. It proves I'm really French.

Probably not so funny in my crappy translation, but the original is nice.

Truc
01-31-2008, 06:07 PM
And while I'm at it, here is the translation of a couple of Q&A in yesterday's video posted by Saumon:

What has changed in your life since Sunday? I don't have a minute for myself.
What do you say to yourself to be motivated during a match? "He's a 'mug', I'm gonna win."
A doubles partner? Federer
The most ill-natured player on the tour? Berdych
When did somebody make a racist remark about you for the last time? Not long ago.
Which part of your body do you dislike and like the most? He doesn't like his feet, he likes his butt.
What do you think when you see yourself in the mirror? "I'm not very handsome" (he says that with his awesome smile, so it's quite cute.)
Your nickname? Jojo
Are you moving to Switzerland to avoid the taxes? He doesn't answer and pushes the buzzer with a HUGE smile - it's my favourite part (around 1'00), the smile is too great. :lol:
Do you sometimes get indecent proposals after your matches? Yes, especially from journalists.
Do you know Eva Longoria is mad at you because your matches kept Tony Parker up very late during the AO? He responds with a joke about the fact that Parker probably always goes to sleep very late with her anyway.
Is love better before or after a match? There's no rule.
Last pleasure? The final of the Australian Open.

Ome
01-31-2008, 10:45 PM
Awesome! Thank you so much, Fran :smooch:

- Oh come on, being French is NOT an excuse :p
- PSG trainer? :spit:
- I've never heard of a guy who likes his butt before :rolls:
- Eva Longoria is mad at Tony Parker for that? Sounds desperate! :lol:


* Is it true that Jo now have the same agent as PHM? :scratch:

Truc
02-01-2008, 07:05 AM
Jo's agent is Morgan Menahem, is he PHM's agent too?
http://video.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-d-australie/2008/video_vid63082.shtml
He's also the agent of Tony Parker, that's the reason behind all the talk about Parker being sooooo interested in tennis out of the blue.

(The question about Longoria was a joke, btw, the questions were sent by the TV viewers.)

Ome
02-01-2008, 07:31 AM
Jo's agent is Morgan Menahem, is he PHM's agent too?
http://video.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-d-australie/2008/video_vid63082.shtml
He's also the agent of Tony Parker, that's the reason behind all the talk about Parker being sooooo interested in tennis out of the blue.

(The question about Longoria was a joke, btw, the questions were sent by the TV viewers.)


There's an interview with a director of Les Petits As, somehow it makes me think that they all have the same agent, Olindo Yacobelli :lol:

Jean-Claude, avez-vous vu le forfait de Tsonga arriver ?

Non, j'avais une crainte, la semaine dernière durant l'Open d'Australie, c'était qu'il se blesse. Après, j'ai eu l'alerte en lisant « L'Equipe » lundi. Le journaliste écrit que Tsonga s'est décommandé des Petits As. Je n'étais pas au courant, j'ai alors eu Olindo Yacobelli, l'agent avec qui j'ai négocié sa venue à Tarbes, en août dernier. Olindo m'a dit qu'il voyait Jo-Wilfried à Roland-Garros mardi matin, qu'il lui dirait « tu ne peux pas faire ça. Tu étais 100e à l'ATP en août lorsque Tarbes t'a sollicité ». Et je peux vous dire qu'à l'époque, il était très content à l'idée de revenir à Tarbes (il avait joué en 1999).

Il le lui a dit ?

Oui, ils se sont réunis hier matin, Olindo, Jo-Wilfried et son nouvel agent, depuis un mois. Olindo a rappelé à Jo-Wilfried qu'il avait pris un engagement avec les Petits As, qu'il devait l'honorer. Tsonga a été inflexible, il a répondu qu'entre toutes les sollicitations médiatiques et l'équipe de France (NDLR : Guy Forget l'a retenu, hier, pour Roumanie-France en Coupe Davis, du 8 au 10 février à Sibiu), il avait un emploi du temps trop chargé pour venir à Tarbes.

C'est sa sélection en Coupe Davis qui entraîne son forfait ?

Non, non. Suite à l'épisode Santoro en 2005, nous avons avancé le match exhibition du samedi soir au vendredi soir. Parce que Guy Forget veut avoir les joueurs de l'équipe de France sous la main le samedi matin (le calendrier est immuable, il y a toujours le premier tour de Coupe Davis la semaine d'après les Petits As). J'avais pris toutes les dispositions nécessaires puisque vendredi soir, après l'exhibition Tsonga-Mathieu, un avion privé les ramenait à Paris. Guy Forget avait donné son accord.

Tsonga a-t-il fait de la surenchère financière, vu son nouveau statut ?

Non, absolument pas, il n'a rien demandé de plus que le cachet prévu l'été dernier (NDLR : 15.000 €). Ce n'est pas une question d'argent, c'est une question d'emploi du temps, il est débordé. Il avait un engagement, il se dédit, il n'est pas loyal. Je trouve son comportement scandaleux. Je suis surtout déçu pour tous les jeunes qui se faisaient une fête de l'approcher, pour les bénévoles du tournoi pour qui c'est une catastrophe. C'est la première fois en 15 ans que j'annule le match exhibition.

Paul-Henri Mathieu était-il en état de jouer ?

Non, après sa blessure à Melbourne (déchirure musculaire au mollet contre Nadal, en 8e de finale), il a été arrêté pour deux semaines, il n'aurait pas pu jouer. Son agent, Olindo Yacobelli, m'a proposé qu'il vienne quand même, signer des autographes. Il m'a aussi proposé de faire venir un autre joueur de son « écurie », Julien Benneteau ou Nicolas Mahut. J'aurais pu faire venir ces deux joueurs, mais il faut être honnête, ça n'aurait pas eu le même impact que Tsonga, 5 jours après sa finale en Australie, et Mathieu, deux joueurs du Top 20 mondial.

Il n'y aura donc pas de match exhibition vendredi soir ?

Non, je préfère annuler, rembourser les gens qui avaient acheté des produits pour obtenir les invitations. En trois jours, c'est impossible d'organiser une exhibition équivalente. Il m'aurait fallu une dizaine de jours, mais là, on était pris à la gorge.

Allez-vous demander un dédomagement à Jo-Wilfried Tsonga ?

Non, je ne vais pas faire de procédure. Je suis très déçu de son comportement, mais il viendra peut-être aux Petits As une de ces prochaines années. Je veux laisser la porte ouverte.

http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2008/01/30/430179-Tarbes-Pourquoi-Tsonga-ne-viendra-pas.html

amdany
02-01-2008, 07:32 AM
Jo's agent is Morgan Menahem, is he PHM's agent too?
http://video.eurosport.fr/tennis/open-d-australie/2008/video_vid63082.shtml
He's also the agent of Tony Parker, that's the reason behind all the talk about Parker being sooooo interested in tennis out of the blue.

(The question about Longoria was a joke, btw, the questions were sent by the TV viewers.)

he's also Ladji Doucouré's agent
Thanks for the translation, I didn't have time to do it yesterday:)

Truc
02-01-2008, 08:46 AM
There's an interview with a director of Les Petits As, somehow it makes me think that they all have the same agent, Olindo Yacobelli :lol: Wow, I can't believe the guy is THAT pissed Jo isn't playing his freaking exhibition, some parts of the interview are really harsh! :eek:
Anyway, to answer your question, I have no idea of all this stuff, but I understand when I read the interview that Jo used to have the same agent as PHM and that Menahem has been his new agent for one month only. Yacobelli (agent of PHM, Mahut, Benneteau...) was Jo's agent when they made the deal for Tarbes, but not anymore.

Gosh, the Tarbes exhibition isn't even cancelled, Santoro will play there, big deal really...

Ome
02-01-2008, 08:53 AM
I kind of surprise when I first read through it... even though I didn't get the whole thing. I know that guy was pissed!

Oh well, it wouldn't be such a big deal if Jo didn't make AO final! :rolls: Imagine had Jo won the whole thing :eek: :lol:

I see, thanks. I didn't know who PHM's agent was before this interview so I have no clue about this stuff either.

Mygenie
02-02-2008, 12:41 AM
Thanks for the translations, much appreciated. Now that I'm following TSONGA and GASQUET I'll have to take up french!! But Tsonga has beautiful disarming smile, he's lucky to have that sort of charisma, and hopefully he can reach more finals this year, with his talent be tremendous :)

Ome
02-02-2008, 04:28 AM
An interview with Jo: http://www.parismatch.com/dans-l-oeil-de-match/reportages/tsonga-sur-le-court-des-grands/(gid)/10829

Pourquoi avoir refusé les avances du Team Lagardère?
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Parce que je me sens bien à la fédération. Parce que j’ai les structures pour réussir et parce que je leur en suis reconnaissant. Ils m’ont toujours aidé depuis que je suis tout jeune. Si je joue au tennis aujourd’hui, c’est grâce à eux.

:yeah: And don't you ever turn to the dark side, Jo :lol:

martine2
02-02-2008, 02:26 PM
:wavey: Ome! I don't know if you remember me (from Natthi's thread during the Olympiade where you supported Genci :) )

Ome
02-02-2008, 03:08 PM
:wavey: Ome! I don't know if you remember me (from Natthi's thread during the Olympiade where you supported Genci :) )

:wavey: Of course, I remember you, Martine :)

Truc
02-06-2008, 08:21 AM
Thanks for the article, Ome, I had no idea the Paris Match articles were available online. ^^ He was on the cover of VSD too next to Carla Bruni last week. :o

I just posted in GM a quote from an article about Jo and Wino in L'Equipe during the AO and here's the complete article because I thought it was pretty nice:Ensemble, c’est tout
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga et son coach Éric Winogradsky vivent une histoire de partage. Longtemps pour le pire, maintenant pour le meilleur. MELBOURNE – de notre envoyé spécial - 27.1.08

DRESSÉ au garde-à-vous dans un coin de tribune, Éric Winogradsky laisse doucement monter les larmes. Qu’elles viennent après tout, qu’elles viennent. Son « Jojo », comme il l’appelle, enclenche sa célèbre ronde des pouces et Rafael Nadal, la tignasse basse, s’éclipse dans une indifférence presque gênante. « Wino », lui, pleure en faisant mécaniquement clap clap. « Je revoyais tout le chemin, comme les gens qui ont eu un accident. Je repensais au jour où on avait appris qu’il avait cette fissure au tendon rotulien, pile quand on croyait que ça allait le faire. Ce jour-là, il y a trois ans, on s’était retrouvés tous les deux dans une tribune à Roland-Garros. Honnêtement, il n’avait pas un gros moral, et moi, je n’étais pas mieux. Mais je lui avais dit : “On va y arriver Jo ! Je ne te laisserai pas tomber, t’inquiète pas.” »
Ni l’un ni l’autre n’est dupe. Le chapitre Melbourne concentre la part rose de leur roman. Mais leur relation a grandi dans des tons moins pastel. C’est sa force. En quatre ans sur la route avec Tsonga, Winogradsky n’a raté aucun épisode du mécano médical, du genou cassé à l’épaule vrillée, du dos bousillé au poignet tordu, du blues au cafard. Il était là, déjà. Il était là, toujours. Bien avant que Jo voltige et pique comme le papillon et l’abeille, il l’avait vu planté à l’horizontale sur un lit d’hôpital. Ces choses-là ne s’oublient pas. Voilà pourquoi, souvent, Wino, quarante et un ans, devient papa poule. Avant une conférence de presse, il ne manque jamais de demander à Jo d’enfiler un pull, « parce que tu sais, Jojo, la clim est forte là-dedans ». Chaque fois, Tsonga glousse (« Mais t’es pire que ma mère ! ») et Wino le prend bien (« Il sait que je suis inquiet avec lui, que j’ai toujours peur d’une tuile. »)
Tsonga aurait pu être son fils. Il l’est sans doute un peu quelque part. Mais ni le prof ni l’élève ne veulent glisser dans ce transfert. « Je pose toujours une limite, il y a toujours un moment où je trouve que je dois me retirer », dit Winogradsky. « J’essaie de le considérer avant tout comme un entraîneur, indique Tsonga. Quand j’aurai terminé, ça sera peut-être beaucoup plus. Quoi qu’il arrive, Éric est mon ami. Je connais toute sa famille et il connaît la mienne. Quand j’étais blessé et que ça n’allait pas fort, il me disait : “Jo, reste pas tout seul, viens manger à la maison.” Et j’y allais. »
L’avenir passe par les Futures
Ce n’est pas le cas en général, mais leur histoire d’amour a commencé mal. Janvier, il y a quatre ans, la Fédération française demande à Tsonga de donner un nom. « Spontanément, j’ai dit que je voulais travailler avec Éric. À l’époque, je n’avais pas trop compris le pourquoi de sa séparation avec Richard (Gasquet). J’avais trouvé ça un peu injuste qu’il se retrouve sans personne. » Prise de contact, premiers échanges. Jo cite ses références, El Aynaoui et Safin, Wino approuve. Pourtant, le courant ne passe pas. Pas tout de suite. « Au début, ça ne colle pas, se souvient Jo. Parce que, moi, j’ai mes convictions d’adolescent et, lui, a ses idées d’entraîneur. Il me disait des trucs et moi, je répondais : “Oui, je sais mais…” Il me disait : “Il faut que tu fasses des étirements.” Je répondais : “Oui, je sais, mais les étirements, ça m’énerve, ça me fait mal et je n’arrive pas à les faire tout seul.” Donc, on allait un peu au conflit. En fait, on avait juste besoin d’apprendre à se connaître. Dans ma vie, tout ce que je construis c’est avec du temps. Je n’aime pas les relations superficielles. Au bout d’un moment, on a trouvé un compromis. »
Ça s’appelle la confiance et, c’est prouvé, ça demande du temps. Aujourd'hui, elle règne. Aujourd’hui, il n’y a plus ce « mais » de trop entre la bouche de Jo et l’oreille de Wino. « C’est vrai, pendant six mois, ç’a été dur, confirme Winogradsky. Toutes les wild-cards étaient pour Richard (Gasquet) et Jo le vivait mal. Il en avait ras le bol de faire des Futures. Mais il était 600e mondial… Un jour, en 2004, son père est monté pour une réunion avec Jean-Claude Massias, le DTN, et moi. On a tout mis sur la table. J’ai dit à Jo : “Écoute, les Futures, ce n’est pas ma came non plus. Gagnes-en un et après tu n’en n’entendras plus parler.” De l’entraînement du matin à celui de l’après-midi, ce n’était plus le même mec. C’était parti. Le Future d’après, il se l’est envoyé, le Challenger suivant, il se l’est envoyé. »
Des kilos à perdre
Mais dame blessure repointe sa sale dégaine. Et elle n’est pas venue seule. Car Jo a un vilain défaut, la gourmandise. « Ça cassait souvent, explique Wino, parce qu’il n’était pas capable de faire quinze minutes de gainage par jour ni de manger un peu correctement pour perdre du poids. » C’est à ce moment de l’histoire qu’intervient Didier, le papa de Jo. Abondant dans le sens de l’entraîneur, il a trouvé l’astuce parfaite pour ramener son fiston dans le droit chemin diététique. « Ça tombe bien Jo-Wilfried, lui dit-il, j’ai quelques kilos à perdre. On va les perdre ensemble. » Jamais Didier n’a commis d’ingérence dans le travail du coach. Il a donné sa confiance à Winogradsky et ne l’a jamais reprise. Jo, lui, n’a jamais repris de kilos. Mais il lui arrive encore de se tromper, autrement. Avant son rush de Melbourne, « King Tsong » avait savonné à Adélaïde, puis à Sydney contre Nieminen et Seppi. À chaque fois, coach Wino avait noté le même petit défaut : « Je viens de parler à Jo et je crois qu’il n’a pas compris pourquoi il avait vraiment perdu. Il n’a pas envie de se creuser la tête. Je ne veux pas lui donner les réponses toutes cuites, je veux qu’il fasse ce chemin tout seul, au moins une partie. » « Oui, je me rappelle ces mots, dit-il aujourd’hui. Mais Jo a appris depuis. Ça veut dire qu’il se pose les bonnes questions. C’est là aussi qu’il est très fort. »
Au fait, que sait Jo de l’attaquant stylé qu’était Winogradsky il y a vingt ans ? Pas grand-chose en vérité. Quand on lui apprend que son entraîneur avait dompté Sampras à Sydney, il croit même à une fumisterie. « Sérieux ? Il a battu Sampras ? Nooon ! Mais c’est la classe, ça ! Pourquoi ne m’en a-t-il jamais parlé ? » « Parce que, répond le cachottier, vainqueur de l’Américain en 1989, en qualifs, je crois que c’est une fausse bonne idée de vouloir se servir de son propre passé de joueur. Je le sais, je l’ai faite, cette erreur. Le joueur, c’est celui qu’on entraîne, pas celui qui entraîne. Comme ça, Jo peut tranquillement continuer à se moquer de mon coup droit. » Il l’appelle coup droit prise « bonjour » parce qu’on ne s’y prendrait pas autrement pour serrer une paluche. Pourvu qu’il ne pense pas là aussi : « Mais t’es pire que ma mère ! »
FRÉDÉRIC BERNÈS (avec Ph. B.)(No time to translate now, sorry!)

Edit: I forgot the pic!

tennistory
02-06-2008, 11:02 AM
http://frenchballs.loco-web.com/tsonga/photos/alb-2008-CD1/large/0043.jpg

Others pictures on his website: www.jwtsonga.com
Enjoy

Truc
02-06-2008, 11:17 AM
Sorry, I hadn't seen you're around when I posted the link in the DC thread.
The pics are awesome, thanks a lot!

Truc
02-06-2008, 11:45 AM
Here’s a sort of translation/summary of the article I posted about him and his coach, Wino. (I skipped a few sentences, it's not a translation!)

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga and his coach Éric Winogradsky: a story of sharing. Sharing the worst for a long time and now the best.

(The first part is about the scene when Wino was crying after the win of “his Jojo” over Nadal.) “I was remembering all the way we've gone, like when people have an accident. I was thinking again about that day when the doctor told us he had a fissure of the patellar sinew - just when we were thinking that this time, he was going to be fine. That was 3 years ago, we were both sitting in the stands of Roland-Garros. Frankly, he was in poor spirits and I wasn’t feeling better. But I told him: ‘We’ll do it, Jo! I won’t let you down, don’t worry.’“
Melbourne is the rosy chapter of their novel. But their relationship grew in less pastel tones. That makes its strength. For four years on the road with Tsonga, Winogradsky hasn’t missed any development of the ‘medical Meccano’, knee, shoulder, back, wrist, between blues and depression. Before watching Jo float like a butterfly and sting like a bee, he saw him lying on his hospital bed. You don’t forget this kind of things. That’s the reason why Wino, 41 years old, sometimes turns into a doting father with him. Before a press conference, he always tells Jo to put on a pullover. ‘You know, Jojo, the air conditioning’. Everytime, Tsonga chuckles (“You’re worse than my mother!“), but Wino doesn't mind (“He knows I’m always worried about him, I’m always afraid something could happen.“)
Tsonga could be his son. He probably is a little bit, somehow. But the teacher and his pupil both want to avoid this "transference". “I always set limits, there is a moment when I have to stand back”, Wino says. “I try to consider him as a coach first, Tsonga says. After my retirement, maybe it will become more than that. Whatever happens, Éric is my friend. I know his family, he knows mine. When I was injured and feeling down, he was telling me: ‘Jo, don’t stay alone, come for dinner!’ And I did.“
The future goes through the Futures
Their ‘love story’ didn’t start well. January, 4 years ago, the French Federation asks Tsonga to name a coach. “Spontaneously I said Éric. I hadn’t really understood why they parted ways with Richard. I found a bit unfair he ended up alone.“ First meeting. Jo talks about his models, El Aynaoui, Safin, Wino agrees. But they don’t get on. Not immediately. Jo: “Things were not working at first. Because I had the beliefs of a teenager and he had his ideas as a coach. He was telling me to do things and I was answering: ‘Yes, I know, but…’ He was saying: ‘You need to do some stretching.’ I was answering: ‘I know, but stretching annoys me, it hurts and I can’t do it alone.’ We came into conflict a little bit. Actually, we just needed time to get to know each other. I need time for everything I build in my life. I don’t like superficial relationships. After a while, we found a compromise.” Today, they trust each other. No ‘yes, but…’ anymore.
“That’s right, the first 6 months were not easy, Wino confirms. Richard got all the wild-cards and Jo was taking it badly. He was fed up with playing Futures. But he was ranked 600th in the world… In 2004, his father came for a meeting with the manager of the Federation and myself. We let out our feelings. I told Jo: ‘Listen, I don’t enjoy Futures either. Win one and you won’t hear of it anymore.’ During the training session on the same afternoon, he was like another guy. He won the next Future with ease. The next Challenger too.“

The rest later...

LilyRoseAva
02-06-2008, 11:48 AM
Wow, I can't believe the guy is THAT pissed Jo isn't playing his freaking exhibition, some parts of the interview are really harsh! :eek:
Anyway, to answer your question, I have no idea of all this stuff, but I understand when I read the interview that Jo used to have the same agent as PHM and that Menahem has been his new agent for one month only. Yacobelli (agent of PHM, Mahut, Benneteau...) was Jo's agent when they made the deal for Tarbes, but not anymore.

Gosh, the Tarbes exhibition isn't even cancelled, Santoro will play there, big deal really...

C'est normal que le directeur des petits as soit dégouté ! Il apprend dans lequipe que Jo se désiste , c'est quand meme pas tres correct .
De plus, il avait "vendu" son exhibition, il y avait des affiches partout à Tarbes, et tout le monde était ravi de pouvoir accueillir Tsonga .

Mais bon d'un autre coté, je comprends bien jo qui avait d'autres sollicitations plus importantes . mais bon...
J'aurai bien aimé le voir à tarbes :sad:

Truc
02-06-2008, 12:04 PM
But it was quite predictable Jo wasn't going to play there.
The guy was "burying his head in the sand" too when acting as if Jo was coming for sure. I know he was advertising it big time, I saw it on the Net too - and everytime I saw all these ads, I was thinking for myself 'is Jo really going to play there?!'

Truc
02-06-2008, 04:08 PM
The last part of the article:

Kilos in excess
But “Lady Injury” comes back. Not alone. Jo has a a little fault: the fondness of food. “He was often getting injured because he couldn’t even do 15 minutes of ‘body shaping’ [???] every day or eat more or less properly to lose some weight”, Wino explains. Didier, Jo’s father, intervenes. He agrees with the coach and finds the trick to help his son back into the “healthy food” way: “That’s perfect, Jo-Wilfried, I need to lose some weight too. We’ll do it together.” Didier never interfered with the job of the coach. He put his trust in Wino and never took it back. And Jo never gained weight again.
But he’s still making mistakes sometimes. Other ones. Before Melbourne, ‘King Tsong’ ‘slipped’ in Adelaide and Sydney against Nieminen and Seppi. After both matches, Wino made the same comment: “I was talking with Jo and I think he hasn’t understood why he lost. He doesn’t want to look closely into it. I don’t want to give him the answer, I want him to go that way on his own, at least for a part.” “Yes, I remember I told you that, he’s saying today. But Jo has learned since then. [In 2 weeks?!?] That means he’s asking the right questions. He’s very strong in that regard too.”
By the way, what does Jo know about the tennis player Wino and his elegant attacking game? Not much. When we tell him that his coach beat Sampras in Sydney [it was in qualifying!], he thinks it’s a joke. “Really? He beat Sampras? Noooooo! But that’s great! Why did you never tell me?” “Because I think it’s wrong to try to use one's experience as a player. I know it because I’ve done that mistake before. Not the coach is the player, but the one who is coached. It’s fine for me if Jo keeps making fun of my forehand.” He calls it the “Hi!” grip because it looks like Wino’s going to shake somebody’s hand. Let’s just hope he won’t say about his forehand too: “You’re worse than my mother!“

The conclusion is so lame. ^^
Well, after having "translated" all this, I think I could have made it shorter... But I liked the "papa poule" thing (the DC trainer also said Wino gave him pages of instructions about what they need to do and not to do with Jo this week!) and also found interesting the fact that he was lacking discipline that much at a time.

amdany
02-06-2008, 07:10 PM
thanks for the article and pics:)

Ome
02-07-2008, 01:35 AM
:worship: Fran! Thanks for the summary :D :smooch:

amdany
02-10-2008, 05:21 PM
So the draw is out for Marseille, Jo will play against Mario Ancic (:sad:he's also one of my faves)

Djokovic-Q
Guez-Simon
Llodra-Seppi
Gicquel-Mathieu

Murray-Q
Wawrinka-Grosjean
Mahut-Q
Lee-Ferrero

Baghdatis-Clement
Lopez-Karlovic
Benneteau-Pavel
Cilic-Youzhny

Tsonga-Ancic
Berrer-Q
Nieminen-Soderling
Bolelli-Gasquet

Michael_21
02-12-2008, 12:50 PM
good performance at the davis cup master jo and good luck this week show everyone that u really are the master :D and win your first title GOOOOOO TSONNNNGGGAAA!!!!!!

cindygermanier
02-12-2008, 03:01 PM
http://www4.prosport.ro/usr/imagini/76840_82733_tsonga2.jpg
http://www4.prosport.ro/usr/imagini/76840_82735_tsonga4.jpg

martine2
02-14-2008, 06:35 AM
:rolleyes: So many people criticizing Jo for the loss against Ancic...
The guy has been playing so many matches lately to climb his way up in the rankings and Ancic isn't exactly a nobody.
So typical...good performance and the hype starts but "oh my" if you lose afterwards.

Truc
02-14-2008, 07:13 AM
But I think that's just on MTF, the media don't seem to be too harsh with him.
It's too bad for him it happens in France, but he didn't embarrass himself at all, he really tried, everybody could see Ancic was excellent yesterday.

He confirms in L'Equipe he won't play Rotterdam and they will now get ready for IW, so I'm not even sure he will play Dubai.
Wino also says he needs rest for his back, he's not completely fit yet:
« Sa hernie discale n’est pas complètement résorbée. Elle l’est à 70-80 %. Jo évacue des petits morceaux de disque quand il a des lumbagos. On fait tout pour qu’il y en ait le moins possible, mais il faudra s’attendre à de petites rechutes. »

Puschkin
02-14-2008, 07:26 AM
It's too bad for him it happens in France, but he didn't embarrass himself at all, he really tried, everybody could see Ancic was excellent yesterday.

I totally agree. The guy was on such a high for a long time, that a defeat was predictable, while 5-7 6-7 is by no means a breakdown.

Smart decision to take a longer break now, time to regroup, learn to digest victories and being in the limelight and then come back strong for the HC season. I feel there is nothing to worry about for the Jo-Wi fans right now.

Ome
02-14-2008, 08:32 AM
Yep, only MTFers can jump on and off any bandwagon faster than Jo's fastest ace :lol:

I saw about 9 games of the match and Ancic played really well so no need to panic yet.

Michael_21
02-14-2008, 11:55 AM
unlucky master jo it was a close match better luck at IW :D

Cat123
02-15-2008, 08:12 AM
He still doesn't have his own forum?! :eek: Dissapointed in you MTF, very dissapointed...

Those pics of him and Richie getting down and dirty in that club gave me no end of entertainment yesterday! :lol: :worship:

martine2
02-15-2008, 09:26 AM
New players forums are added only twice a year, so if we ask for one in the concerned thread AND there is enough activity in this one, the mods will consider it :)

amdany
02-16-2008, 05:31 PM
Jo won't play in Rotterdam as expected, but will he play in Dubai?

Truc
02-16-2008, 05:37 PM
No, they confirm it in L'Equipe today.
Dubai was probably ready to pay a nice appearance fee, but they decided to take a break until the US tournaments. He's tired and Wino says it will be his only chance to have a break until the summer.
Tsonga fait le break
Au lendemain de sa défaite contre Mario Ancic à Marseille, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, après avoir parlé avec son coach Éric Winogradsky, a pris plusieurs décisions : il ne jouera pas la semaine prochaine à Rotterdam, il n’acceptera pas de wild-card pour disputer le tournoi de Dubaï (3-9 mars) et il passera dix jours sans frapper une balle pour préparer physiquement au mieux la tournée américaine qui comprendra également le quart de finale de Coupe Davis : « Il y a une fatigue générale, constate Winogradsky. À un moment, il faut savoir se reposer un peu. Nous nous étions laissé jusqu’à cette semaine pour savoir si Jo irait à Dubaï et nous avons décidé que non, car nous avons réalisé que cette période était la seule pendant laquelle il pourrait faire un vrai break avant l’été. C’est maintenant ou jamais. » Cette décision, pleine de sagesse, comporte très probablement le renoncement à une substantielle garantie à Dubaï, signe que les deux hommes privilégient l’avenir sportif et non la rentabilité immédiate de la notoriété. Comme le règlement le requiert, le Français se rendra tout de même à Rotterdam pour faire constater son incapacité à jouer par le médecin du tournoi, puis il consacrera une bonne partie de sa période loin du circuit à se remettre en forme physique pour aborder dans les meilleures conditions, à partir du 13 mars, les Masters Series d’Indian Wells et de Miami, suivis par États-Unis - France.

martine2
02-16-2008, 05:56 PM
Wise decision.
He has to be careful with the back and he played a lot lately.
Better get some rest and come back fresh :)

Thanks for the updates Truc :yeah:

amdany
02-16-2008, 07:30 PM
thanks Truc:yeah:

Turquoise
02-18-2008, 04:52 AM
Thanks for the article Truc. Wise decision to take this break. Looking forward to the long sleepless nights just to watch him play in Indian Wells and Miami.

Truc
02-18-2008, 06:27 AM
The Petits As director is STILL running his "anti-Jo" campaign in the French media for not playing the exhibition between the AO and the Davis Cup. :cuckoo: Will he ever get over it?
In L'Equipe again today in the Tennis section:

martine2
02-18-2008, 06:37 AM
I can understand he is disappointed but he should accept there are more important things to Jo now (and more important: he needs rest) then an exhibition :rolleyes:

Truc
02-18-2008, 06:56 AM
Ad space in the print issue of L'Equipe must be quite expensive, so he's looking a bit desperate with his "Carton rouge à Jo-W. Tsonga!" inserts...

I saw a new series of Questions & Answers is planned on Jo's website during his break, btw, if you want to ask him anything... He used to answer pretty much every single question, I'm not sure he can still do it!

*julie*
02-18-2008, 10:23 AM
The Petits As director is STILL running his "anti-Jo" campaign in the French media for not playing the exhibition between the AO and the Davis Cup. :cuckoo: Will he ever get over it?
In L'Equipe again today in the Tennis section:

:rolleyes:
Get over it. Who cares about exhibitions anyway...

Truc
02-20-2008, 06:51 AM
There is an article about it today in L'Equipe, Jo is mad and wants to sue Knaebel, the tournament director. :yeah: Knaebel is angry because he was not informed personally, apparently, but he admits it would have been a bit too much for Jo to play his exhibition, so why did he keep advertising him everywhere as if it was sure Jo would come?

Ome
02-20-2008, 07:00 AM
:eek: What a big mess this turns out to be... :tape:

I wonder if it would turn out differently had he showed up, signed some autographs :shrug:

For some reasons, I'm in the middle here :lol: I can NOT understand why it's such a big deal for the director. But actually, I don't like this move by Jo (if he really is going to sue this guy). This stuff should easily be settle off the court (of law) :p

Truc
02-20-2008, 07:11 AM
"To sue" probably isn't the right word, they'll force him first with a formal demand (mise en demeure?) to stop this and to remove all his "Carton rouge!" inserts.
I find the reaction completely normal, it's just slander imo. :shrug:

Here's the complete article if it's easier for you to read or to run in a translation tool:Tsonga, as, impair et manque
Pour avoir renoncé à une exhibition dans le cadre des Petits As, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga s’est attiré les foudres du directeur du tournoi de jeunes.
CARTON ROUGE à Jo-Wilfried Tsonga ! Dans le concert de louanges qui a accompagné l’éclosion australe du jeune Manceau, une voix discordante s’élève ces jours-ci depuis la ville de Tarbes, berceau du tournoi des Petits As. Le finaliste de l’Open d’Australie y était attendu le 1er février dernier pour participer à une exhibition dans le cadre de cet officieux Championnat du monde des 12-14 ans. Mais Tsonga ne s’est jamais rendu au pied des Pyrénées.
Son forfait de dernière minute a provoqué la colère du directeur de l’épreuve, Jean-Claude Knaebel. Trois semaines plus tard, elle n’est toujours pas retombée. Au point que ces derniers jours, à grand renfort d’encarts publicitaires parus dans la presse (voir L’Équipe du 18 janvier), il a tenu à le faire savoir en sortant le rouge de sa poche, sanction dont les attendus sont développés sur le site Internet des Petits As (voir illustration ci-contre). La défense ne devrait pas en rester là puisque l’avocat de Tsonga, Me Alexis Gramblat, envisageait lundi soir une action en justice. Comment en est-on arrivé à une telle déclaration de guerre ? Croulant sous les sollicitations après son retour de Melbourne, le mardi 29 janvier au matin, jusqu’à sa première convocation en équipe de France de Coupe Davis, le samedi 2 février, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga et son entourage ont dû faire un tri. Il fut ainsi décidé, assez logiquement compte tenu de l’état de fatigue du joueur et de l’échéance immédiate de Roumanie-France, de ne pas honorer le contrat qu’il avait passé en août 2007 avec l’organisateur des Petits As.
À l’époque, le Français naviguait autour de la 75e place mondiale. Aucun intermédiaire n’était en charge de ses intérêts. Quand M. Knaebel eut le projet de monter un match exhibition entre Tsonga et Paul-Henri Mathieu, c’est donc l’agent de ce dernier, Olindo Yacobelli, qui soumit la proposition au Manceau, lequel donna son accord contre une somme de 15 000 euros.
Mais l’Open d’Australie est passé par là. À mesure que Tsonga avançait dans le tableau, son séjour à Tarbes prenait du plomb dans l’aile.
Pas vraiment au fait de la teneur d’un contrat qu’il n’avait pas signé lui-même, Morgan Menahem, agent du Français depuis novembre 2007, est entré en contact avec les organisateurs des Petits As, « dès le 23 ou le 24 janvier, mes relevés de téléphone mobile peuvent en attester ». « J’ai effectivement eu ce monsieur au téléphone à ce moment-là, mais, n’étant que l’attachée de presse des Petits As, je lui ai transmis les coordonnées de M. Knaebel, confirme Véronique Triffaux. Il découvrait le dossier et m’a dit qu’il n’était pas très chaud pour que Jo vienne à Tarbes, si bien que, lorsqu’il a finalement annulé, je n’ai pas du tout été surprise. »
Des suites juridiques ?
Seul hic, Morgan Menahem, au coeur d’un tourbillon médiatique à 19 000 kilomètres et dix heures de décalage horaire de la réalité tarbaise, n’a jamais eu Jean-Claude Knaebel, la cheville ouvrière du projet, au bout du fil.« Et je n’ai pas reçu le moindre courrier ! Ce n’est que le mardi 29 janvier à 15 heures qu’Olindo Yacobelli m’a informé que Tsonga ne respecterait pas son engagement. » Le boss des Petits As est parfaitement conscient qu’il eût été déraisonnable de laisser Tsonga participer à cette exhibition à l’avant-veille de son départ pour Sibiu. Mais il aurait souhaité plus d’égards. « Que Jo-Wilfried ait été saturé, ça peut se comprendre. Mais la moindre des corrections aurait été qu’on me prévienne, lui ou son coach, Éric Winogradsky. Ou qu’on me propose un autre joueur en remplacement. Mais je n’ai eu aucun coup de fil d’excuse ! Or j’avais vendu 2 800 billets pour le vendredi et, trois jours avant, tout a été annulé. Mathieu a été plus respectueux : malgré sa blessure (qui le dispensait de Coupe Davis), il est venu en avion à Tarbes pour signer des autographes. Je lui tire mon chapeau. »
Actuellement en vacances, chez lui, Tsonga a réagi vivement aux attaques des organisateurs des Petits As. « Il est extrêmement déçu et furieux contre eux, explique son agent. Il est peiné qu’ils n’aient pas compris sa situation, ce qui n’était pourtant pas compliqué. Leur réaction n’est pas classe, c’est vraiment petit. Maintenant, on réfléchit aux suites à donner à cette affaire. » Elles devraient passer par la case judiciaire selon Me Gramblat. « Nous allons réagir, c’est ce que souhaite Jo. D’abord, adresser une mise en demeure aux Petits As de retirer cet avertissement de leur site. Car on s’interroge sur le caractère diffamatoire de la deuxième ligne. On ne peut pas écrire tout et n’importe quoi. De plus, il s’agit de publicité et donc d’une utilisation abusive du nom de Jo avec volonté de nuire à la personne et à son image. »

Ome
02-20-2008, 07:20 AM
"To sue" probably isn't the right word, they'll force him first with a formal demand (mise en demeure?) to stop this and to remove all his "Carton rouge!" inserts.
I find the reaction completely normal, it's just slander imo. :shrug:

Here's the complete article if it's easier for you to read or to run in a translation tool:

Thanks Fran :)

The tournament director crossed the line when he went to the media :o I just don't want a drama for Jo. Expectations rise after his run in AO and it won't get easier from now on. It kind of annoying to read this... I thought this issue was long over.

martine2
02-20-2008, 07:28 AM
This Knaebel guy is so pathetic :rolleyes:

These advertisements are pure slander indeed

Truc
02-21-2008, 07:22 AM
L’Equipe keeps us informed daily about what Jo’s doing, as they used to do with Richie, so I’m going to share all these fascinating scoops with you: ^^

He was in Rotterdam yesterday for some promotion job, is very relaxed, went to Switzerland immediately after his loss in Marseille and is just taking some time off there and fishing with friends.
He’ll start practicing again in one week and will leave for Indian Wells on the 9th of March.

Voilà voilà...

amdany
02-21-2008, 07:45 AM
merci Truc for all these informartions. :eek:the exhibition story is going very far, I mean it was "just" an exhib:shrug:

soraya
02-21-2008, 04:56 PM
:wavey:hello all. Truc, thanks for the info, as you can see I am here. Too bad Jo is not playing Dubai, I was looking forward to it.

Truc
02-28-2008, 06:13 AM
In l'Equipe today:Jo au Congo
IL AURAIT PU TAPER LA BALLE au tournoi de Rotterdam, il la tripotait en fait au Congo. Premiers pas vendredi dernier au pays des ancêtres et premiers échanges sur le tarmac avec quelques membres du nouveau fan club, en érigeant les banderoles en filet… Le ton du pèlerinage de Jo-Wilfried Tsonga était donné. Ardemment souhaité par les autorités politiques du pays africain depuis la grande aventure de Melbourne, le retour aux sources s’était effectué plus rapidement que prévu. Samedi, le Manceau, plus francocongolais que jamais, était reçu avec ses parents et son grand-père par le président de la République, Denis Sassou-Nguesso, dans le village natal de ce dernier à Oyo, transporté en jet présidentiel pour le raout très privé. Le finaliste de l’Open d’Australie offrait au chef d’État (fan sans rancune de l’Espagnol) l’une des raquettes qui avait pulvérisé Nadal à Melbourne, avant de faire une partie de pêche et d’obtenir l’assurance de recevoir bientôt le passeport congolais. Le lendemain, Jo regagnait enfin Pointe-Noire, là où bat le coeur du clan Tsonga. Les larmes ont coulé à la « Beuverie Tsonga », l’antre du grand-père Alphonse, l’ancien gendarme de l’Afrique équatoriale française qui n’avait jamais vu son petitfils. Au programme du séjour ponténégrin : barbecue familial sur la plage de la Côte Sauvage, réception avec le préfet, « clinic » sur les courts d’un hôtel, petite conférence de presse informelle à l’hôtel de ville et nouvelle session du hobby pêche magnifiée par la prise d’un barracuda. « Ce fut génial, témoignait le Français adoubé par sa nouvelle patrie. Avec le président, c’était plus familial que protocolaire. J’ai vraiment vécu beaucoup d’émotions. Et j’ai encore du mal à les transcrire, tellement c’était fort. Tellement d’images ont défilé ! Ma rencontre avec mon grand-père ? Un grand moment, je préfère garder pour moi ce que l’on s’est dit… » Lundi, le fils prodigue revenait au pays natal. Hier, plus prosaïquement, il reprenait l’entraînement avec son coach Éric Winogradsky à Roland-Garros. – F. Ra. et F. Be.

He went to Congo last week, the President of Congo was apparently insistent about wanting to meet him. He flew in a private jet to Oyo for a reception by the President, then visited the now famouse grandfather, etc. The article describes in great detail everything he did there. He sounds very enthusiastic, says it was very moving for him, the meeting with the President wasn't very formal.
He came back on Monday and started practicing again yesterday with Wino in Roland-Garros.

Truc
02-28-2008, 06:26 AM
The board is SO slow again, it took 15 minutes for my post to show up...

I see Cécile also has a lot of new great pics she's taken in Rotterdam: :yeah:
http://frenchballs.loco-web.com/tsonga/photos/alb-2008-rott/index.html

amdany
02-28-2008, 04:02 PM
thanks truc:hug:

jitterbug
03-02-2008, 04:52 AM
I think I promised BGT these photos ages ago :tape: :lol:

Jo photos from first round doubles in Sydney

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_Sydneydubs_1.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_Sydneydubs_2.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_Sydneydubs_5.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_Sydneydubs_6.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_Sydneydubs_3.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_Sydneydubs_4.jpg


From practice before AO semi-finals against Nadal

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_AOpractice_1.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_AOpractice_2.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_AOpractice_3.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/10/28/1549996/MTFphotos/Jo_AOpractice_4.jpg


Jo was very nice :) I guarded the court exit behind the players' chairs during his doubles second round match against Damm/Vizner in Sydney and he stayed quite a long time to sign autographs.

During the AO practice session he was known as 'the guy who sticks his tongue out when he wins' :lol: he showed good character there too :yeah: usually the pros only sign autographs for people waiting at the side behind their benches, but Jo went over to the other side first and signed stuff to make sure that nobody is left out.

Truc
03-02-2008, 07:59 AM
Thanks a lot, the pics are awesome, as usual!

Truc
03-02-2008, 08:10 AM
Jo will be the guest of "Stade 2" today (on France 2).
Thanks to Cécile for the heads up.

amdany
03-02-2008, 10:31 AM
thanks for the pics Zahirah:worship: and Truc for the information:D

Truc
03-02-2008, 05:12 PM
So, I watched "Stade 2", I think I hadn't watched it for 20 years!
Jo was nice, his smile was :hearts: , but the questions were quite lame and he hardly said anything new.

He talked mainly about the DC (not his fault, French journalists are obsessed with DC) and about how important it will be for him to play RG this year since it really hurt to miss it twice in a row. An Olympic medal is worth as much as a Grand Slam title to him.
Looks like we're going to have a full report about his trip in Congo in Tennis Magazine next week...

He also was asked to comment on the reports about the other sports, so he said he has a lot of respect for racing drivers, he doesn't care much about ski, he played football himself 4-5 years, he can't believe what is happening in football with regard to racism lately, there isn't much racism in tennis, etc. etc.
:shrug: I have already forgotten what he said...

Here's the link of Stade 2, maybe they'll put some parts online later:
http://sport.france2.fr/stade2/

martine2
03-02-2008, 06:57 PM
Very nice pics Zahirah and nice to hear he was so friendly with the fans :D

amdany
03-03-2008, 10:58 AM
So, I watched "Stade 2", I think I hadn't watched it for 20 years!
Jo was nice, his smile was :hearts: , but the questions were quite lame and he hardly said anything new.

He talked mainly about the DC (not his fault, French journalists are obsessed with DC) and about how important it will be for him to play RG this year since it really hurt to miss it twice in a row. An Olympic medal is worth as much as a Grand Slam title to him.
Looks like we're going to have a full report about his trip in Congo in Tennis Magazine next week...

He also was asked to comment on the reports about the other sports, so he said he has a lot of respect for racing drivers, he doesn't care much about ski, he played football himself 4-5 years, he can't believe what is happening in football with regard to racism lately, there isn't much racism in tennis, etc. etc.
:shrug: I have already forgotten what he said...

Here's the link of Stade 2, maybe they'll put some parts online later:
http://sport.france2.fr/stade2/

tell me about it:hearts::drool:

Truc
03-11-2008, 08:42 AM
The tennis section in L'Equipe today is about tennis players having back problems (Leconte, DiP...) and the main article is about Jo:
Tsonga, l’épine dorsale
Sans être opérée, la hernie discale du Français s’est étiolée. Mais le dos reste une zone à risques, avec interdiction de jouer avec le feu.

Jo-Wilfried Tsonga n’a plus joué depuis sa défaite d’entrée à Marseille, le 13 février. Dimanche soir, il est arrivé à Indian Wells, en Californie, où il s’entraînait déjà hier et où il reprendra la compétition pour de bon d’ici quelques jours. À quoi rimait une telle coupure ? « À se reposer nerveusement après l’enchaînement Open d’Australie-Coupe Davis », avance Éric Winogradsky. C’est la raison 1. La raison 1 bis tourne autour du corps du joueur, de son dos en particulier.

ELLE S’APPELLE L 5-S 1. C’est un petit nom très répandu chez les hernies discales. L’une de ces sournoises vermines siège sur le bas de la colonne vertébrale de Jo-Wilfried Tsonga depuis des années. Il l’a d’abord connue par douleurs interposées, souvent vives, parfois insupportables ; il l’a ensuite vue sur des photographies, genre radios ou IRM, quand elle fut clairement identifiée, fin 2004. Il ne l’a jamais aimée mais a appris à vivre avec. Aujourd’hui, L 5-S 1 (voir infographie) est toujours là… sans y être. Logique, puisqu’elle n’a pas été chirurgicalement éliminée. Médecin-chef à la Fédération française, le docteur Bernard Montalvan a gardé, depuis le début, un œil sur cette hernie. C’est lui qui peut expliquer le mieux le pourquoi de la non-opération. « D’abord, les expériences passées nous rappelaient qu’une opération se soldait souvent, chez les joueurs de tennis, par un résultat insatisfaisant. Ensuite, la hernie de Jo n’était pas si mal placée. Disons qu’elle avait une localisation médiane, soit pas très proche de la paroi nerveuse. » Cette L 5-S 1 ne passa donc pas sur le billard. Il avait été décidé de la combattre autrement.

Patience et volonté
Au début, ce ne fut pas la victoire en chantant, loin de là. Injections, travail de verrouillage, pour apprendre à bien placer son bassin et ainsi créer le moins de pression possible sur la zone abîmée, Jo reçut toute une éducation du dos. Mais elle ne l’empêcha pas de chercher des moyens d’autodéfense, finalement pervers. Craignant pour son dos malade, Tsonga compensa et mit en danger d’autres parties de son corps. Pendant l’été 2005, son épaule droite craqua. Puis vint le tour des abdos. C’était la vengeance indirecte de la hernie. Aujourd’hui, elle ne le frappe presque plus, du moins pas aussi violemment. « Mais Jo a parfois le réflexe de vouloir protéger son dos en exigeant trop de sa jambe de poussée, la gauche, remarque « Wino », qui en connaît un rayon, ayant dû lui-même arrêter sa carrière après l’opération d’une hernie discale. C’est arrivé à Melbourne contre Murray. Cela dit, comparé à il y a trois ans, c’est le jour et la nuit. »

En tournant le dos à l’opération, Tsonga acceptait un double jeu de patience et de volonté. Les premiers temps furent orageux, quand Winogradsky et son élève se chamaillaient sur le thème de l’hygiène alimentaire laxiste de Jo. La routine préventive nécessaire pour son dos le « gonflait au plus haut point, ajoute Wino. Mais Jo est intelligent et il a rectifié le tir. On a alors pu chercher et chercher le protocole de travail le plus efficace, mais aussi celui qui était le plus sécuritaire. L’idée est qu’il ne vienne sur un tournoi que quand il est vraiment prêt et en bonne santé. » Quitte, comme ces dernières semaines avec Rotterdam et Dubaï, à en passer par des impasses « thérapeutiques ». Le clan Tsonga a sagement préféré rafraîchir la tête du garçon après le tourbillon de Melbourne et reposer son corps, qu’il faut bien surveiller comme le lait sur le feu. À Roland-Garros, la reprise s’est faite mollo, mollo. « Ça commence toujours par une visite chez l’ostéo, qui vérifie que tout est en ordre dans son dos, explique Wino. Ensuite, Jo commence à taper mais en douceur. J’attends toujours quatre jours avant de le solliciter dans les déplacements. » On ne badine pas avec les précautions, on n’oublie jamais que la menace de la hernie rôde toujours.
Millimètre par millimètre, Tsonga gagne du terrain sur le mal. Depuis trois ans, à une fréquence de deux, voire trois chaque année, il est arrêté par des lumbagos. Ces crises exercent une forte pression sur le disque et peuvent libérer un petit bout dudit disque, qui, dans le meilleur des mondes, peut se détruire tout seul dans le canal rachidien.

Tsonga : « Je me suis construit comme une carapace »
C’est la théorie du « mal pour un bien ». « Grâce à ce phénomène, Jo a expulsé 70 % à 80 % de sa hernie. C’est visible sur les radios », précise Wino. « Quelque part, je me sens encore comme un ancien blessé, dit l’intéressé. Je suis toujours super à l’écoute du moindre bruit, de la moindre sensation. Il faut dire que la hernie discale, c’était horrible. Parfois, je ne pouvais même pas dormir. Mais j’ai su prendre le taureau par les cornes et, à force de travail et de soins, je me suis construit comme une carapace. » « Je le considère comme guéri, pousse plus loin le docteur Montalvan. Il est comme ces quatre joueurs de haut niveau, français ou étrangers, qui vivent très bien avec une hernie non opérée. Pour moi, c’est fini. Mais, attention, il y a encore certains exercices que je lui interdis, car je les considère encore trop agressifs pour sa charnière. » Ils concernent le renforcement du bas du corps, chantier pour le moment laissé en jachère. Vous avez bien lu : Tsonga n’a pas encore le droit de pousser à fond sur les muscles de ses gambettes. Veto médical. Pourtant, les dernières douleurs imputables à la hernie remontent à plusieurs mois et descendaient dans le haut de la fesse. Depuis, RAS. Il y a donc bien un avant- et un après-hernie. Avant, Tsonga soulevait 95 kilos au développé-couché. Aujourd’hui, c’est dix de plus. Avant, sa VO2max (consommation maximale d’oxygène par le muscle) plafonnait à 54. Maintenant, c’est 60. Aujourd’hui, il court plus vite qu’hier. Madame L 5-S 1, jusqu’ici, vous avez perdu. - FRÉDÉRIC BERNÈS

Truc
03-11-2008, 08:45 AM
And some explanations of his physical trainer:
CYRIL BRECHBUHL, préparateur physique de Tsonga depuis bientôt deux ans, détaille l’influence de la hernie sur le travail quotidien.

« Ses journées sont longues »

« COMMENT VOUS Y PRENEZ-VOUS pour faire travailler Tsonga en tenant compte de cette hernie ?
– Il a fallu et il faut toujours limiter les contraintes sur le dos, tout en restant à l’écoute des sensations de Jo. J’ai besoin qu’il me fasse remonter les infos et il est parfait pour ça. Aujourd’hui, Jo est même demandeur de certains exercices quand il sent que ça peut lui faire du bien. Il s’est complètement approprié le processus. Moi, je me demande toujours ce qu’il peut faire le moins et ce qu’il peut faire le plus. En fait, je ne vais jamais vers le plus parce que, là, on entrerait dans la zone à risques de la hernie. On n’y va pas parce qu’on a plus à y perdre qu’à y gagner. À quoi bon tenter le diable pour grappiller 1 % de plus en vitesse s’il déclenche une sciatique ? Voilà pourquoi, pour le moment, on ne force pas en bas. Voilà aussi pourquoi je pense qu’il atteindra son top physique dans deux ou trois ans.

– Il y a donc des exercices qui restent tabous pour lui…
– Oui, mais ça ne veut pas dire forcément qu’on y perd beaucoup. On ne le saura que quand il les accomplira. À un moment, on a essayé les mouvements d’haltérophilie : des squats plus des bondissements. Ça ne lui a pas réussi (il fut même supposé que son lumbago de l’été dernier provenait de là) et l’exercice a disparu. C’est ce travail sur le bas du corps qui est encore proscrit. Depuis fin octobre, on a trouvé avec la machine Con-Trex une façon très ciblée de travailler sur ses muscles inférieurs sans risquer de toucher à son dos. Ça, c’est très appréciable. À la base, Jo est raide au niveau des ischio-jambiers. On travaille là-dessus pour que sa puissance ne sollicite pas trop ses articulations. Il a besoin de souplesse, c’est capital pour son dos. Dans le boulot physique avec Jo, on privilégie les doses homéopathiques, la régularité. Mais il faut bien comprendre qu’en l’état, son protocole de travail physique est déjà très, très lourd.

– C’est-à-dire ?
– Chaque jour, il doit suivre un renforcement abdo-lombaire, surtout sur le muscle transverse qui a un rôle important dans la tenue du dos. Chaque jour, que ce soit avant un entraînement ou avant un match, il doit effectuer des étirements en grande quantité. Plus du vélo, des siestes, des massages… Ses journées sont longues. » – F. Be.Sorry I don't have time to translate right now.

Truc
03-11-2008, 11:18 AM
Here's a summary, sorry if some parts don't make much sense or are too simplified because it's way too complicated for my limited English:

He arrived in IW on Sunday and is training there. After Marseille he needed a break mentally, but also for his back.

"L 5-S 1", that's the name of the herniated disc at the bottom of the spinal column which has been bothering him for years now. It's still there, since he hasn't been operated on it. Montalvan (the doc of the FFT) explains why they decided not to operate: the experiences in the past have shown that the results for tennis players often are not satisfactory. And the location of Jo's hernia is not too bad (median, not very close to the nerve wall).

But it was far from easy at the beginning. He got a lot of injections, he had to learn how to position his pelvis in order to relieve the damaged area... With some pernicious effects: he was so afraid to damage his back that he injured other parts of his body - the right shoulder during the summer 2005, the abs... All these injuries were the direct consequence of the slipped disc.
His coach Wino (who knows the issue very well himself as he had to retire after having been operated on an herniated disc) means that Jo sometimes still "pushes" too much on his left leg to "protect" his back. For example against Murray in Melbourne. But it's nothing compared to what he was doing 3 years ago.
They often had quarrels at that time because of Jo's lack of discipline (he had no food discipline, all the preventive work for his back was like hell for him, etc.) "But Jo is clever and he's changed his tack". He only plays a tournament when he feels ready and fit and they never rush anything. When he resumed the training in Roland-Garros last week, for example, he went first to the osteopath to check everything is fine with his back, as usual. Then he started hitting again, but they took it very easy during 4 days. And then only, he could start practicing normally.

Two or three times a year, he still has to stop because of a lumbago. It presses on the herniated disc and releases a little piece of the disc which is dissolved in the rachidian channel if everything goes well. He's already gotten rid of 70-80% of the herniation thanks to these lumbagos, so they are a "positive evil".

Jo means that in his mind, he is not completely over it yet, still paying attention to the slightest sound or sensation. The pain caused by the herniated disc was horrible, it wouldn't even let him sleep at a time. But all the work and the treatments have formed a sort of carapace around him.
He hasn't been in pain for months now.

Montalvan sees him as healed: "He's one of the 4 high-level players around the world who live very well with an unoperated herniated disc. For me, the problem is over."
But there are still a few exercises he's not allowed to do because it would be too much for his back. Therefore, the lower part of his body is undeveloped yet. Yes, that's right: the doctors still forbid him to really work out his legs muscles (meaning: imagine how strong he would be if he'd be allowed to make the most of his body).

Before having these back problems, he could lift 95 kg from a lying position. Now 105 kg. His VO2max was 54 at best. Now 60. He also is much faster now. Looks like "L 5-S 1" has lost the fight.

Ome
03-11-2008, 03:05 PM
Thank you, Fran :)

Quite a lot of detail. My professor didn't give out this much in the exam!

Increased VO2 max :rocker2: Happy to hear that it all seems to go well for him :yeah:

Truc
03-11-2008, 03:50 PM
Too much detail? Well, it's an important issue for the many, many Tsonga fans on this board. :p

The interview of DiP is "funny". He means he was walking like an old man and Arnaud (Clément) was making fun of him, calling him "Belmondo" because he thought he was acting a little bit. But he wasn't. He also explains how he was stuck in the toilet in some Challenger, so much in pain that he couldn't even reach the toilet paper. He was operated, unlike Jo, and never really recovered.
Leconte's story was different, he was operated too (three times!), but he bounced back, changed everything, his serve motion, the way he was walking and running, etc. He means having been through this made him even stronger and he thinks it's the same for Jo when he's watching him now.

Ome
03-11-2008, 03:59 PM
Not too much. But it's probably the first time I saw maximal O2 consumption on MTF. Normally it would be in my exam :lol: I understand his "back problem" so much better with some medical facts so this is good :yeah:

DiP :awww: :lol: (sorry, I laughed!) Did they say where DiP and Leconte have the herniation? Was it L5-S1 as well?

Truc
03-11-2008, 04:00 PM
DiP only says "une hernie discale au niveau des vertèbres L 4-L 5." :shrug:

In the other interview I haven't translated yet, Brechbuhl explains how he's been working with Jo for about 2 years now, he talks about the fact they always have to listen to what Jo's body is telling. Jo is really great in that regard, he has completely assimilated the whole procedure, asks himself for special exercises when he feels they might have a positive effect for him, etc.
They always work in small doses and never overdo it because the risk would be much higher than the possible benefit. No point in becoming 1% faster if he risks a sciatica doing it. That's why he prefers not to work on the lower part of his body yet. Which also means he will probably need 2-3 more years to reach his top physically. They don't know if all these things he can't do yet would help that much anyway, only time will tell.
Last year he tried some weightlifting stuff combined with leapings and they suspect it was the reason of the lumbago he had last summer during the US Open series, so this kind of exercises is still prohibited. At the end of October, they've discovered a new exercising machine though which allows him to work out his legs without hurting his back.
Jo needs to improve his suppleness for his back, but his daily work protocol already is "very, very heavy". He needs to do special exercices for the abdominal-lumbar area every day, he needs a lot of stretching before each training session and each match, add to that the condition training, the naps (well, that's not too hard, lol!), the massages... His days are very long.

Ome
03-11-2008, 04:21 PM
L5-S1 is a bit more common... BTW, no mention of thigh/leg problem? :scratch:

Truc
03-11-2008, 04:24 PM
Do you mean DiP? I'm going to post his interview in his thread.

Ome
03-11-2008, 04:26 PM
Do you mean DiP? I'm going to post his interview in his thread.

For both...

Thanks in advance!

amdany
03-11-2008, 08:24 PM
thanks Truc(what's your name by the way, if you don't mind of course;):p)

martine2
03-11-2008, 08:40 PM
Merci beaucoup Truc! Très intéressant comme toujours :D

star
03-12-2008, 01:18 AM
Hey! I'm shocked Tsonga doesn't have his own forum. Anyway, just dropped in to report that I saw him twice today. First in the morning practicing in a pale pink T-shirt with PARIS in big shiny silver letters on the front, and then in the afternoon with a gray college athletic t-shirt. He's a great big boy. :) His shoulders look bigger than I remember them being when I saw him 2 or 3 years ago. Anyway, he was drawing big crowds. :)

If I have other tidbits about him, I'll drop by to let you know

star
03-12-2008, 01:21 AM
DiP only says "une hernie discale au niveau des vertèbres L 4-L 5." :shrug:

In the other interview I haven't translated yet, Brechbuhl explains how he's been working with Jo for about 2 years now, he talks about the fact they always have to listen to what Jo's body is telling. Jo is really great in that regard, he has completely assimilated the whole procedure, asks himself for special exercises when he feels they might have a positive effect for him, etc.
They always work in small doses and never overdo it because the risk would be much higher than the possible benefit. No point in becoming 1% faster if he risks a sciatica doing it. That's why he prefers not to work on the lower part of his body yet. Which also means he will probably need 2-3 more years to reach his top physically. They don't know if all these things he can't do yet would help that much anyway, only time will tell.
Last year he tried some weightlifting stuff combined with leapings and they suspect it was the reason of the lumbago he had last summer during the US Open series, so this kind of exercises is still prohibited. At the end of October, they've discovered a new exercising machine though which allows him to work out his legs without hurting his back.
Jo needs to improve his suppleness for his back, but his daily work protocol already is "very, very heavy". He needs to do special exercices for the abdominal-lumbar area every day, he needs a lot of stretching before each training session and each match, add to that the condition training, the naps (well, that's not too hard, lol!), the massages... His days are very long.


Thanks, Sweetie. :hug:

I have a bad back and the maintenance needed is sometimes just... maddening and tiresome, so I really sympathize with him.

soraya
03-12-2008, 05:43 AM
Too much detail? Well, it's an important issue for the many, many Tsonga fans on this board. :p

The interview of DiP is "funny". He means he was walking like an old man and Arnaud (Clément) was making fun of him, calling him "Belmondo" because he thought he was acting a little bit. But he wasn't. He also explains how he was stuck in the toilet in some Challenger, so much in pain that he couldn't even reach the toilet paper. He was operated, unlike Jo, and never really recovered.
Leconte's story was different, he was operated too (three times!), but he bounced back, changed everything, his serve motion, the way he was walking and running, etc. He means having been through this made him even stronger and he thinks it's the same for Jo when he's watching him now.

thanks for translating. I feel bad for Jo, it is not easy to train and play with a herniated disc.

soraya
03-12-2008, 05:45 AM
Hey! I'm shocked Tsonga doesn't have his own forum. Anyway, just dropped in to report that I saw him twice today. First in the morning practicing in a pale pink T-shirt with PARIS in big shiny silver letters on the front, and then in the afternoon with a gray college athletic t-shirt. He's a great big boy. :) His shoulders look bigger than I remember them being when I saw him 2 or 3 years ago. Anyway, he was drawing big crowds. :)If I have other tidbits about him, I'll drop by to let you know

Thanks for the news. I agree, I think we need to keep this thread alive and continue advocating to have his own forum.

Truc
03-12-2008, 07:39 AM
(My real name is Françoise, Amdany.)

What a nice surprise to see you here, star! Thanks for the report, Jo must look great in baby pink, lol. Who was he training with?

We need your vote if you're shocked he hasn't got a forum yet! -> http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=116154
It's quite normal he hasn't got one yet because his MTF thread wasn't doing well at all until the AO for whatever reason. But we're improving, he'll certainly get one in April.

Truc
03-12-2008, 07:41 AM
His draw in IW isn't bad:
[14] MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA vs BYE
DANCEVIC, Frank CAN vs FALLA, Alejandro COL
SELA, Dudi ISR vs KIEFER, Nicolas GER
[17] TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried FRA vs BYE

[32] LOPEZ, Feliciano ESP vs BYE
QUALIFIER vs WC YOUNG, Donald USA
QUALIFIER vs ESCHAUER, Werner AUT
[2] NADAL, Rafael ESP vs BYE

Truc
03-12-2008, 08:41 AM
Jo on the cover of "Grand Chelem":
http://www.welovetennis.fr/mag/GC07.pdf

amdany
03-12-2008, 09:30 AM
(My real name is Françoise, Amdany.)

ok:wavey:Françoise. I think I should introduce myself too because you guys who post here way before than me seem to know each other;)(:wavey:Martine, Soraya, Ome(I think I know your real name coz I saw your profile on facebook:p...), so my name is Hamdanie(pronounce like in amdany:))

His draw in IW isn't bad:
[14] MATHIEU, Paul-Henri FRA vs BYE
DANCEVIC, Frank CAN vs FALLA, Alejandro COL
SELA, Dudi ISR vs KIEFER, Nicolas GER
[17] TSONGA, Jo-Wilfried FRA vs BYE

his draw is ok:), good luck!!

Jo on the cover of "Grand Chelem":
http://www.welovetennis.fr/mag/GC07.pdf

thank you:worship:

Ome
03-12-2008, 09:41 AM
ok:wavey:Françoise. I think I should introduce myself too because you guys who post here way before than me seem to know each other;)(:wavey:Martine, Soraya, Ome(I think I know your real name coz I saw your profile on facebook:p...), so my name is Hamdanie(pronounce like in amdany:))



:wavey: Hey Hamdanie! (The name on my profile is my nickname as well as Ome :p To be honest, I prefer to be called Ome :lol: So you have facebook too? We should become a facebook friend :aplot:)



Thanks Fran for the link to "Grand Chelem"... I'm still downloading it :rolleyes: Turtle speed internet :lol:

amdany
03-12-2008, 10:18 AM
:wavey: Hey Hamdanie! (The name on my profile is my nickname as well as Ome :p To be honest, I prefer to be called Ome :lol: So you have facebook too? We should become a facebook friend :aplot:)



Thanks Fran for the link to "Grand Chelem"... I'm still downloading it :rolleyes: Turtle speed internet :lol:

:lol:ok then

star
03-12-2008, 02:32 PM
(My real name is Françoise, Amdany.)

What a nice surprise to see you here, star! Thanks for the report, Jo must look great in baby pink, lol. Who was he training with?

We need your vote if you're shocked he hasn't got a forum yet! -> http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=116154
It's quite normal he hasn't got one yet because his MTF thread wasn't doing well at all until the AO for whatever reason. But we're improving, he'll certainly get one in April.

He's very popular at IW. People were just standing around watching him practice. I don't know who he was practicing with. :o I don't know the French players very well. :o :o :o

I will vote for the forum and I think that if Jo keeps playing well he will have one soon. :) :)

The crowds at IW are enormous this year. I can't believe that yesterday was a free day of tennis for every one. So much great tennis and just for a parking fee! wow. You will have to come someday, Truc, and you can introduce me to all the French players. :) :)

martine2
03-12-2008, 02:45 PM
ok:wavey:Françoise. I think I should introduce myself too because you guys who post here way before than me seem to know each other;)(:wavey:Martine, Soraya, Ome(I think I know your real name coz I saw your profile on facebook:p...), so my name is Hamdanie(pronounce like in amdany:))




Well, I'm pretty new to this thread too (was already following Jo before that time however :p ) but welcome here Amdany :D

@ Star: Hope you have a great time in IW (I'm a bit jealous :p )

soraya
03-13-2008, 02:26 AM
Hi Hamdanie and all of you. Not a bad draw at all. Star, enjoy IW.

Ome
03-13-2008, 05:53 AM
Jo signed autographs in an Adidas store on the Champs Elysees. (Taken last month)

star
03-14-2008, 04:54 AM
I saw Tsonga again today. He was practicing with Moncourt. (I do know a few Frenchies. :) )

Oh, Truc, I am too lazy to go elsewhere so please forgive this off topic message. Grosjean was very cute today at practice. Schuettler came on the court when Grosjean was finishing up. Schuettler said something to Grosjean and called him "Frenchie" and Grosjean playfully tapped a ball at him, but Grosjean was smiling all the time looking happy. Then Grosjean must have been feeling playful because he started hitting tennis balls at the French players and coaches who were playing socccer (football :p ) on the grassy area next to the practice courts. He lobbed the balls at them. Didn't hit them hard. Just to get their attention, and the crazy guys left the balls on the grass where they were running around playing. I sort of cringed expecting one of them to turn an ankle on a tennis ball in the grass.

Oh, and Truc, Serra lost miserably to Xavier, and even though I was rooting for Serra, it was very sad. I think he got an abdominal pull during the match, but he played on. At one time he had his head in his hands on the changeover and he looked so dejected and distraught. Moncourt was there watching, and his face was also very sad.

Truc
03-14-2008, 07:35 AM
Merci! :yeah: You recognized Mathieu Montcourt?!? Now that's impressive! :lol: The atmosphere in the Serra-Montcourt team must be indeed depressive lately...
Grosjean always is like that when I see him! Last time was in Hamburg, horrible weather, playing qualies in these conditions really is no fun (all the more since he didn't qualify), everybody was looking :( and :mad: , but he was joking and all smiles too!

We're hardly off-topic, :angel: Seb and Jo are friends and regular doubles partners lately. Jo explained on his website that Seb asked him in Moscow last year if he wanted to play doubles with him, pretty much out of the blue, they barely knew each other at the time, but they have been regularly playing together since then. He says Seb is a great guy and gives him tons of useful tips for his career, etc.

They're playing together again in IW, but since Seb lost in the first round already, I don't know if he will really try to go far in doubles, he might want to go back to Florida.

tennis2018
03-14-2008, 10:12 AM
jo practicing in Indian wells

star
03-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Merci! :yeah: You recognized Mathieu Montcourt?!? Now that's impressive! :lol:.

:lol: It would be impressive if I hadn't seen him play only a couple of days before. Lucky for me, he doesn't wear a hat when he plays. When they wear hats, it's hard for me to recognize them without their hats. Also, Moncourt's hair is pretty distinctive, and he has the lovely name that I've seen so many times in my history books. :)

star
03-15-2008, 05:46 AM
Saw Tsonga and Grosjean play today. It was very exciting. Tsonga made some rookie doubles mistakes and felt badly about it. The crowd was on their side. They got down in the tiebreak because of a team mistake of them both going for the same ball and they just couldn't get it back. Then Grosjean doubled for the match. A heartbreak. Still it was a lot of fun.

Truc
03-15-2008, 07:31 AM
:topic: Mathieu Montcourt never plays with a hat, that would be a shame with such awesome hair and he knows it!

Thanks again for all your reports! Grosjean is having serious shoulder/serving issues lately, it's not surprising they lost. Good to know it was an exciting match though.

Long interview of Jo in L'Equipe today - expected, there had been 2 days without article about him:« Un mois excitant »
Absent du circuit depuis un mois, Tsonga renoue avec la compétition dans le désert californien, où il affrontera, pour son entrée en lice, l’Israélien Dudi Sela. Mercredi soir, après une heure d’entraînement avec Olivier Rochus et juste avant un meeting des joueurs de l’ATP, il a pris le temps d’évoquer les échéances qui l’attendent. Il évoque pêle-mêle le top 10, la Coupe Davis,son envie de titres et son séjour au Congo.Tout en minimisant sa blessure à un doigt de la main gauche.

« UN MOIS APRÈS votre défaite d’entrée à Marseille, contre Mario Ancic, vous revoici sur le circuit. Que s’est-il passé, pour vous, ces dernières semaines ?
- J’ai coupé. Quand Marseille s’est terminé, j’ai vraiment décompressé. Pas mal de relâchement. Je ne m’en rendais pas compte parce que j’étais dans le truc, mais, en fait, j’étais vraiment naze. Je me suis reposé, je suis allé au Congo puis j’ai repris l’entraînement doucement.
- Repos, Congo, boulot. Reprenons dans l’ordre. Chez vous, en Suisse, avez-vous débusqué quelques torrents pour vous adonner à la pêche ?
- En Suisse, j’ai beaucoup dormi, je suis resté dans mon appart’, je me suis un peu baladé, je suis allé manger au bord du lac, pépère quoi…
- Vous n’avez pas été trop sollicité, à ce moment-là ?
– Pas tant que ça, mais c’est aussi parce que j’ai vraiment relâché la pression. Je me suis dit : “Ça y est, c’est terminé, t’as vraiment fait des trucs de dingue.” Toute la pression que je tenais sur les épaules, tout ce que j’arrivais à encaisser jusqu’à ce moment-là, là je n’encaissais plus du tout. Pendant deux, trois jours, après Marseille, fallait vraiment pas venir me parler de quoi que ce soit... (Sourire.)
– Avez-vous revu des images de votre Open d’Australie ?
– J’en ai revu un peu, surtout des highlights (les résumés avec les points les plus spectaculaires) sur Internet. J’ai aussi rencontré le gars qui a écrit la chanson (Tsonga Tsunami), dont le clip passait sur le Net. C’était bien écrit. J’avoue que la première fois que je l’ai vu, j’ai eu des frissons.
– Ensuite, il y a eu ce voyage au Congo. C’était comment ?
– Je savais que j’allais être ému mais je ne m’attendais pas à ce que ce soit aussi bien. Oui, c’était émouvant, j’ai retrouvé toute ma famille, surtout mon grand-père, que j’avais à coeur de voir. Depuis que je suis tout petit, je ne pensais qu’à ça. Ça s’est fait et je suis revenu plein de bons souvenirs et plein d’émotions.
– Allez-vous essayer de faire venir votre grand-père, Alphonse, sur un de vos tournois ?
– Il est assez âgé maintenant, donc c’est difficile de le faire voyager mais je vais essayer d’y retourner un peu plus souvent. En tout cas, je suis revenu dans ma vie de joueur après avoir fait quelque chose que j’attendais depuis longtemps et qui, je pense, m’a rapproché un peu plus de mes… enfin, de moi-même. C’était un peu enfoui au fond de moi. C’est un truc marquant.
– Puis, il y a eu le retour à l’entraînement. Vous étiez dans une spirale très positive avant de couper. Est-ce que ça a été facile de renoncer à disputer les tournois de Rotterdam et de Dubaï ?
– Dans la tête, il y a toujours l’envie d’aller jouer. Je me suis dit : “Putain, les mecs vont jouer et moi je ne joue pas !” avec un peu l’impression de perdre du temps. Mais comme j’étais fatigué, j’ai bien senti que j’en avais besoin.
– Qu’est-ce qui a été le plus dur à la reprise ?
– Ça ne s’est pas mal passé, mais ce n’était qu’après dix jours de pause. J’ai fait des coupures beaucoup plus longues à cause des blessures, quand je devais m’arrêter deux ou trois mois. (Grimace.) Le plus dur, cette fois, était de se remettre dedans mentalement, de se remotiver. De se dire : “Voilà, il va y avoir des échéances importantes.” Quand tu atteins la finale d’un Grand Chelem, tu te demandes ce qu’il y a de beaucoup plus important.
– Vous voici, non pas sur un Grand Chelem, mais au moins sur un Masters Series. Content de retrouver le circuit et tous les joueurs ?
– Oui, et c’est vraiment particulier parce que c’est un tournoi que je joue pour la première fois. J’étais venu en 2005 mais c’était pour jouer les qualifs et je sortais juste de ma hernie. J’avais marqué un jeu ! Là, j’ai l’impression que c’est un nouveau défi. Pour la motivation, c’est plus facile d’arriver sur un tournoi que je ne connais pas, de me demander : “Est-ce que je vais aimer l’ambiance ou pas ?”
– Et alors, vous aimez ?
– (En portant le regard au loin, sur les magnifiques montagnes du désert californien rougeoyant sous les rayons du soleil couchant.) C’est plutôt pas mal ! Si je voulais être gourmand, je demanderais la mer là-bas (il montre du doigt les alentours du stade), mais non, vraiment, c’est top ! On est dans un hôtel génial, autour des montagnes, au soleil…
– Est-ce que vous sentez que le circuit porte un regard différent sur vous ?
– J’ai reçu pas mal de félicitations. Quand des joueurs qui ont plus de cinq ou six années de circuit derrière eux et qui ont fait des choses beaucoup plus grandes que moi viennent me féliciter, c’est forcément une belle marque de reconnaissance. Ils ne sont pas obligés !
– Un joueur en particulier ?
– Non, non…
– Dans quel état d’esprit êtes-vous aujourd’hui ? Pressé de démarrer votre tournoi ?
– Je me dis plutôt que c’est bien d’avoir encore un ou deux jours pour peaufiner ma préparation mais, en même temps, je suis assez excité de voir comment ça va se passer. Comment ça va se terminer, tout ça…
– Et ce majeur de la main gauche, que vous vous êtes tordu et sur lequel vous avez une attelle ? Ça n’est pas gênant pour votre revers à deux mains ou le lancer de balle au service ?
– Ben, ça dépend… Chacun le voit à sa manière, moi, j’essaie de me dire que ça ne l’est pas, et puis j’ai envie de me dire que j’ai connu bien pire (dos, épaule, genou…).Quoi qu’il arrive, que je perde ou que je gagne, je ne parlerai pas de mon doigt. Je jouerai avec un strap qui le maintiendra mais (avec l’envie de changer de sujet) je n’ai rien ! Rien du tout !
– Vous êtes satisfait de votre niveau à l’entraînement ?
– Je tape méga bien, ça commence à revenir. Y a pas de souci au niveau de ma préparation, je ne suis pas en retard sur quoi que ce soit.
– Tant mieux, parce que ce mois qui débute, avec le triptyque Indian Wells - Miami - Coupe Davis (quart de finale États-Unis - France), va être très riche. Comment l’appréhendez- vous ?
– C’est un mois excitant et, justement, c’est ce qui aide dans la motivation pour repartir, pour continuer à être très rigoureux, parce que ça va s’enchaîner vite. Je ne vais vivre que des trucs de dingue jusqu’à la fin de l’année.
– En espérant que le niveau va monter, avec la Coupe Davis en point d’orgue ?
– Pour jouer en Coupe Davis, il faudra déjà que je sois bon ici, donc ça commence tout de suite, il ne s’agit pas de fonctionner avec l’idée d’aller crescendo jusqu’à ce quart de finale. Et puis, si je joue bien à Indian Wells, je peux aussi m’ouvrir une grande porte pour mon classement. Le top 10 pourrait me tendre les bras. Je sais qu’il me manque 700 ou 800 points, et ça n’est pas sur le circuit ordinaire que je vais les prendre. C’est sur les Masters Series que ça se passe.
– C’est presque un nouveau discours français d’expliquer que “ça se passe” sur les gros tournois. Michaël Llodra tient le même raisonnement…
– “Mika”, c’est l’exemple parfait, il a gagné deux tournois en 2008, il est dans le top 5 sur l’année, et il n’est que trente-huitième… Deux tournois, y a des mecs largement mieux classés qui ne les ont pas gagnés. Moi, je suis dix-septième et je n’ai jamais rien gagné ! Peanuts !
– Un titre, c’est justement l’un des objectifs de l’année ?
– Ah oui, complètement ! Même à Tataouine, je ne sais où, un 300 000 dollars ! (la dotation des tournois les moins dotés du circuit ATP). Pour l’instant, qu’est-ce que je peux dire ? “J’ai été finaliste.” C’est bien, mais c’est toujours mieux de dire : “J’ai été vainqueur”. »
JULIEN REBOULLET et VINCENT COGNET He twisted his left middlefinger and they say he is wearing a splint off court! He means he'll be fine, but it must hamper him with his double-handed BH and on serve (you said he doubled a few times, star)...

Truc
03-15-2008, 08:37 AM
A summary:

He took a real break after Marseille. He was completely exhausted, even if he wasn't really aware of it at the time because he was still totally into it.
So he went to Switzerland to rest, he slept a lot, took it easy... The media gave him a break - luckily, because he wasn't in the mood 2-3 days after Marseille! All the pressure fell off.
He watched a few highlights of his AO run on Internet. He also met the guy who wrote the "Tsonga Tsunami" song, he had shivers the first time he saw it.
Then he made that trip to Congo. He knew it was going to be a moving experience for him, but he wasn't expecting it to be that great. He'd been dreaming of meeting his grand-father since he was a kid. The journalist asks if he's going to invite the grand-father (Alphonse) to a tournament, but Jo answers he's old and it won't be easy, so he'll rather try to go to Congo more often. It sounds like it really was very important to him to make that trip.
The decision to skip Rotterdam and Dubai wasn't so easy, it also felt like he was wasting time. But he knows he needed it.

It wasn't too hard to resume the training after the break, he had only stopped 10 days, he's had much longer breaks in his career! (grimace) The most difficult thing is to get back the motivation, especially after having reached a GS final.
It's a special feeling for him to play IW because it's the first time he plays that tournament. He was there in 2005, but only for the qualifying and it was his first event after his back injury, so he only won one game.
For his motivation, it's better to play a tournament he doesn't know yet, he's wondering "Am I going to like it?"
The journalist: "And, do you like it here?"
"It's not bad! It would be even better with the sea nearby, but it's pretty great! The hotel is fabulous, the mountains, the sun..."

About the attitude of the other players towards him: "When players who have been on the tour for 5-6 years and have done bigger things than me come to congratulate me, it's a nice gesture of acknowledgment. They don't have to do that!" He doesn't want to name a player in particular.

Then this problem with the middlefinger and if it's hampering him a lot: "Well, it depends... I try to say to myself it doesn't. I've already dealt with much bigger problems. I won't mention my finger, if I win or lose. I'll play with a strap and... (looking like he wants to talk about something else) It's nothing! Nothing at all!"
He's hitting the ball very well in training, his game is coming back, slowly. Everything is fine with his preparation, there was no delay.

It's going to be an exciting month and it helps to get going again. Crazy things are waiting for him for the rest of the year.
If he wants to play in DC, he'll need first to have a good tournament here, so he can not just try to peak for the Davis Cup. And he also knows that IW is a huge opportunity for his ranking. He needs 700 or 800 points to enter the top 10 and the Masters Series are the best way to gain all these points, not the regular tournaments.
The journalist notices Llodra is saying exactly the same thing. Jo: "Yes, look at Mika, he's won 2 tournaments in 2008, and he's ranked #38... Two tournaments, some guys with a much better ranking haven't achieved that much. I'm ranked #17 and I have never won anything! Peanuts!"
That's one of his goals for this year, he wants to win a title. "Even in Tataouine :lol: , some 300 000 $ somewhere, anything! Right now, what can I say? 'I've made a final'. It's nice, but it's always better to be able to say: 'I won'."

Voilà, I'm surprised he talks so much about motivation issues! That really shouldn't be an issue yet...

Truc
03-15-2008, 01:11 PM
It's probably old, but I hadn't seen it yet because my Flash wasn't working properly, a gallery about Jo on the website of C. Dubreuil:
http://www.corinnedubreuil.com/GALERIES/JO-WILFRIED%20TSONGA/index.html

martine2
03-15-2008, 01:12 PM
Thanks again for the article :yeah:

soraya
03-16-2008, 07:58 PM
Thanks for translating the article for all of us who don't speak French. Great win yesterday, I was able to watch few games.

martine2
03-16-2008, 08:02 PM
I watched the match yesterday.
The windy conditions made it very difficult for both players but still Jo got a quite comfortable win :)

amdany
03-18-2008, 07:19 AM
:banana:Jo won against Paulo (sorry Ome:hug:), next opponent is Nadal:banana:

Sunset of Age
03-18-2008, 07:19 AM
Congrats, Jo-Wilfried! :D

martine2
03-18-2008, 10:46 AM
Now let's hope for a repeat of AO semis :angel: :devil:

Truc
03-18-2008, 12:14 PM
It was not pretty yesterday... I didn't expect great tennis from that match because Jo already looked so tense in the first round, matches between Frenchies always tend to be ugly and this one even more because of the tension, there was so much at stake for both of them.
But still, his game is way too shaky, he really needs to step up in the next match!

It doesn't prevent him from keeping the big talk coming: "Dans ma tête, le favori c'est moi" (In my mind, I'll be the favourite). That's the spirit, Jo. :lol:

Ome
03-18-2008, 02:17 PM
:banana:Jo won against Paulo (sorry Ome:hug:), next opponent is Nadal:banana:

:lol: Thanks for the consolation, Hamdanie :angel:

Jo outserved Paulo :yeah: And best of luck against Nadal. Everyone seems to be looking forward to this match ;)

amdany
03-18-2008, 06:35 PM
It was not pretty yesterday... I didn't expect great tennis from that match because Jo already looked so tense in the first round, matches between Frenchies always tend to be ugly and this one even more because of the tension, there was so much at stake for both of them.
But still, his game is way too shaky, he really needs to step up in the next match!

It doesn't prevent him from keeping the big talk coming: "Dans ma tête, le favori c'est moi" (In my mind, I'll be the favourite). That's the spirit, Jo. :lol:

:lol:, and I like when Jo says "the guy has 2 arms and 2 legs, just like me, so everything is possible":yeah:

soraya
03-19-2008, 05:50 AM
I will sure record the match...Good luck for tomorrow Jo.

amdany
03-19-2008, 07:27 AM
I thought the match would be scheduled as the last match but I'm happy coz it'll be at 1pm, a very decent hour for us in Europe:bounce:, good luck Jo!!!

martine2
03-19-2008, 12:06 PM
I will sure record the match...Good luck for tomorrow Jo.

Will you upload it afterwards? Would be much appreciated :D

soraya
03-19-2008, 10:32 PM
Will you upload it afterwards? Would be much appreciated :D
wish I know how to do it:confused: how are things for Jo so far?

JBdV
03-20-2008, 12:10 AM
Dammit Jo :sad: Such a frustrating loss.

soraya
03-20-2008, 01:38 AM
sorry to hear that, hope he can learn some lessons from this loss.

amdany
03-20-2008, 07:20 AM
Jo:(, he was leading 5-2 in the third dammit:mad:, but well better luck in Miami I guess

martine2
03-20-2008, 09:10 AM
:sad: too bad

2moretogo
03-20-2008, 06:39 PM
Jo:(, he was leading 5-2 in the third dammit:mad:, but well better luck in Miami I guess

Ouch!!! I couldn't watch or follow the match yesterday, so perhaps that for the best. Did Jo have any match points? Hopefully this won't be too much of a hit to the confidence. On the positive side, at least he is still gaining points 4th round not too shabby and hopefully, Miami won't be as windy as it was last year.

JBdV
03-20-2008, 08:08 PM
Nope he had no match points, he was broken to 30 when serving for the match.

SelvenluvJo
03-22-2008, 04:31 PM
Jo:(, he was leading 5-2 in the third dammit:mad:, but well better luck in Miami I guess

Miami is faster than IW , I think it could be better for Jo 。Com' on :clap2:

soraya
03-26-2008, 03:49 AM
Congratulations Jo and good luck in Miami

Newcomer of the Year - Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
http://www.atptennis.com/5/photos/2008/tsonga.jpg (http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/playerprofiles/default.asp?playersearch=tsonga)In his first full season on the ATP circuit, this 22-year-old Frenchman finished in the Top 50 for the first time at No. 43 from No. 212 with consistent results in ATP and Challenger level play. He compiled a 14-10 mark in ATP tournaments and 24-5 in Challengers with four titles. He opened the season with a four-set loss to No. 7 Roddick in the first round of the Australian Open and won the first set in a 20-18 tie-break (longest in tournament history). In June, he reached the fourth round. at Wimbledon where he won in straight sets over Benneteau, Lapentti and Lopez before falling to countryman Gasquet. He finished the season with solid results in his native country with a quarterfinal in Metz (l. to Murray) and semifinal in Lyon (d. No. 11 Gasquet, l. to Grosjean). He also won his first ATP doubles title in Lyon (w/Grosjean). He is the third Frenchman to win this award in the past six years, joining Gael Monfils (2005) and Paul-Henri Mathieu (2002).

Truc
03-26-2008, 07:09 AM
He'll play doubles together with Gasquet in Miami according to L'Equipe.

There are new Questions&Answers on his website, if you speak French (he answered questions of fans before leaving for IW). No real scoops, he talks about how his life has changed (and not changed, he still has an old Lupo with half-broken doors as a car) in the last few months, about racism, etc.
http://frenchballs.loco-web.com/tsonga/page_online6-mars08.htm

Puschkin
03-26-2008, 08:15 AM
He'll play doubles together with Gasquet in Miami.
:woohoo: I think they are a good doubles' combination.

Truc
03-26-2008, 08:44 AM
That's indeed good news for you, we'll certainly be regularly updated about how they're doing!
L'Equipe keeps reporting about every move of Jo, I only mentioned the news about the doubles, but they also explain Jo went fishing yesterday in Miami (very interesting) and he's still wearing a strap for his middle finger off-court.

And here are a few bits of the Q&A on his website:
His only regret for the AO is that he was saving himself a little bit in the 2nd set in the final, not sure how he would feel in a 4th or 5th set, he thinks he could/should have played even more full force all the time.
His favourite events are the US Open (American dream), Queen's (classy) and Bercy.
His dream would be to win RG beating Federer in the final.
He means the pics in the nightclub in Sibiu were just the usual "bizutage" of the newbies and they were published out of context ("bizutage" is a sort of initiation ceremony in French highschools). It is sometimes getting annoying people say tons of things about him when they actually don't know what happened.
The strangest request he has gotten since the AO came from a guy in prison who explained to him he's innocent and he needs help.
He isn't fed up with the comparison with M. Ali yet.
Etc.

amdany
03-26-2008, 09:19 AM
thanks Françoise

Puschkin
03-26-2008, 11:10 AM
That's indeed good news for you, we'll certainly be regularly updated about how they're doing!
:haha: Richard is only news as Jo's doubles' partner. :D

Truc
03-26-2008, 12:36 PM
Noooo, that's not what I meant - we'll get plenty of interviews of Richard, don't worry.

But the media really are loving the stories about the Jo-Richie friendship, so I expect them to go a bit apeshit over it again.

Puschkin
03-26-2008, 01:34 PM
But the media really are loving the stories about the Jo-Richie friendship, so I expect them to go a bit apeshit over it again.

As long as Richard does not take up fishing, this is fine with me. :p

amdany
03-29-2008, 05:53 PM
:bounce:yay, Jo won his match against Melzer:bounce:

soraya
03-29-2008, 10:20 PM
:bounce:yay, Jo won his match against Melzer:bounce:


:worship::worship:great win, good luck for the rest.

Truc
03-30-2008, 01:10 PM
He looked so nervous, he also says he was getting angry about everything during the first 2 sets. When he was missing a shot, he was thinking of it the next 4 points.
They both agree about that with Wino, but give different explanations:

Jo: « Ça m’arrive de temps en temps. J’ai ça depuis que je suis tout jeune. Certains jours j’ai envie de tellement bien faire, j’ai l’impression d’avoir une force incroyable, d’être super rapide… et puis je tourne toute cette énergie de façon négative. Je serre trop fort ma raquette, je me frustre… Mais je progresse dans ce domaine. »
It happens to me from time to time. I was already like that as a kid. Sometimes, I so badly want to do well, I feel like I’m incredibly strong, so fast… and I convert all this energy in a negative way. I’m holding the grip too tight, I get frustrated… But I’m improving in that regard.

Wino: « Depuis que nous sommes arrivés à Miami, je le sens un peu nerveux à l’entraînement, sans raison évidente. Je pense qu’il a un peu sa défaite de la semaine dernière encore en travers de la gorge. Il veut un peu trop bien faire. Et puis mine de rien, la position est nouvelle pour lui. Par exemple, jouer sur un grand court, il aime ça, mais il y est habitué une fois lancé dans le tournoi. Là, il s’est retrouvé sur le central pour son premier match, contre Melzer ; il n’y a pas si longtemps, ce n’est pas un match qui aurait mérité le central. Je me demande s’il ne se sent pas non seulement obligé de gagner mais aussi de faire le spectacle. »
Since we're in Miami, I feel he’s a bit nervous in training, without any obvious reason. I think he isn’t completely over the loss in IW yet. He wants to do too well. And the whole situation is new to him. For example, he likes playing on show courts, but he’s used to play on these courts when he has already a couple of matches under his belt in a tournament. This time, he had to play his first match on the Center Court. Against Melzer. Not so long ago, this match wouldn’t have deserved to be on the Center Court. I’m wondering if he doesn’t feel a bit forced to not only win, but also 'put on a good show'.

Melzer sure helped a little bit, but Jo really managed to change his tack just in time, which I found quite impressive since he was obviously having "a bad day at the office" yesterday. It wasn't pretty, but it was a good win.
Benneteau now, he already beat him in Wimbledon last year.

martine2
03-30-2008, 04:52 PM
Good luck for the next round!!

I'll be rooting :yeah:

Truc
03-31-2008, 10:32 AM
You know Jo said some time ago the US should be afraid of the French team and Andy answered Jo should maybe wait to be sure to be on the team before he makes that kind of statements. :p So there was a long interview of Andy yesterday in L’Equipe and he was asked again about that, of course (are there any problems between him and Jo?)
– On insiste sur ce point qui a semblé vous agacer : vous n’avez apparemment pas aimé que Tsonga parle de “crainte”…
– Je vous le redis, je pense que la France doit nous craindre aussi. La dernière fois que j’ai vérifié, c’est nous qui étions les tenants du titre. Si j’avais été son équipier, j’aurais aimé qu’il dise des choses comme ça. Comme je ne le suis pas, ça, j’ai réagi. “Hey, attendez une minute, on est bons aussi !”Mais vous voulez vraiment connaître mon sentiment ? En fait, j’apprécie qu’il ait dit ça. Ça rend les choses plus excitantes ! Je n’en fais vraiment pas une affaire. Si moi, je commence à critiquer quelqu’un qui parle un peu, vous ne trouveriez pas ça sérieux, si ? Ça serait juste un peu hypocrite, je crois…
– Appréciez-vous le personnage Tsonga ?
– Oui. Des gens comme lui ne peuvent qu’aider notre sport. Si je dis quelque chose et que Tsonga réplique encore – ce que je crois qu’il a fait, non ? –, ça ne peut que donner du piment à l’affaire. Ça rend le tennis meilleur. Si l’on a suivi Jo non seulement en France, mais aussi en Australie, c’est parce qu’il a du charisme. Il joue avec de la passion, ce gars-là
- Again, I think France should be afraid of us too. Last time I checked, we were title holder. If I were his team mate, I’d like him to say something like that. Since I’m on the other team, I reacted. 'Hey, wait a minute, we’re not bad either!' But you really want to know what I think? Actually, I appreciate he said that. It makes things more exciting! It’s really not a big deal for me. If I start criticizing somebody for talking a little bit, it won't look very serious. It would be a bit hypocritical, I think…
- Do you like the "character" Tsonga?
- Yes. Guys like him can only be good for our sport. If I say something and Tsonga answers back – I think he did, didn’t he? -, it can only spice up the whole story. It makes tennis better. People followed Jo the way they did, not only in France, but also in Australia, because he has charisma. This guy plays with passion.

amdany
03-31-2008, 08:24 PM
he lost 6-3 6-3:sad:

soraya
04-01-2008, 04:05 AM
:sad::sad::sad:

martine2
04-01-2008, 08:33 AM
He didn't play a good match at all. The weather conditions were awful. Very windy and this was frustrating him like hell. He got very pissed and when he has this attitude it usually goes the wrong way :sad:

It was a bit of a surprise to me. Expected him to win this easily :sad:

martine2
04-04-2008, 12:03 PM
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=6831249&postcount=902

He needs help in this thread :angel:

SelvenluvJo
04-06-2008, 04:05 AM
He didn't play a good match at all. The weather conditions were awful. Very windy and this was frustrating him like hell. He got very pissed and when he has this attitude it usually goes the wrong way :sad:

It was a bit of a surprise to me. Expected him to win this easily :sad:

I also expected to win easily . :sad::sad:

gasquet24
04-09-2008, 05:22 PM
Tsonga pulled out the Davis Cup tie today
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/09042008/58/davis-cup-quarter-finals-attract-big-names.html

soraya
04-10-2008, 03:53 AM
Too bad, hope his knee heals fast in time for the clay season.

Knee Injury Knocks Tsonga Out Of Davis Cup By Tennis Week
Wednesday, April 09, 2008

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France's most explosive fast-court player is out of this weekend's Davis Cup quarterfinal clash against the United States.
Australian Open finalist Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, an expected singles starter for France, has withdrawn from this weekend's tie in Winston-Salem, N.C. suffering from a lateral meniscus injury to his right knee, Davis Cup referee Wayne McKewen announced today.
Arnaud Clement, a 2001 Australian Open finalist and reigning Wimbledon doubles champion with Michael Llodra, has replaced Tsonga on the squad. Tsonga has left the United States and flown back to France for treatment on his knee.
In Tsonga's absence, French captain Guy Forget will likely select 12th-ranked Paul-Henri Mathieu as the second singles starter behind the extremely talented, but enigmatic Richard Gasquet.
U.S. Davis Cup captain Patrick McEnroe said all four French players are capable of starting in singles or doubles.
"I will expect the unexpected,"McEnroe told USTA.com (http://www.usta.com/). "They have a lot of versatility in their players. I certainly don't go in really wondering or worrying about it. As I said, we've got our four guys. If we play well and play at the top of our game, we feel good about our chances. Certainly I think Guy (Forget) has more options available, maybe depending on how the guys look and adjust to the court, it being as quick as it is. It would not surprise me if there's some changes."
McEnroe has reconvened the same cast of players — No. 1 singles starter Andy Roddick, No. 2 singles starter James Blake and twins and doubles players Bob Bryan and Mike Bryan — that beat defending champion Russia to capture the Americans' first Davis Cup championship in 12 years in Portland last December. The Bryan brothers are bidding for their 10th consecutive Davis Cup doubles victory, but figure to be tested by Llodra and Clement.
Llodra and Clement topped the top-seeded Bryan brothers, 6-7(5), 6-3, 6-4, 6-4 to win the Wimbledon doubles championship last summer and the pair will probably reunite for Saturday's doubles match could play a major part in deciding the Davis Cup quarterfinal.

amdany
04-10-2008, 06:16 AM
too bad for Jo:awww::hug:

Truc
04-10-2008, 07:13 AM
In L'Equipe today, it sounds pretty bad, he might be out for months!Opération probable
VICTIME D’UNE INFLAMMATION du ménisque interne droit, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga a peut-être payé à Winston-Salem la dette d’une blessure ancienne. « Cette lésion peut provenir de l’entorse au genou que Jo s’était donnée en juin dernier, lors du Challenger de Surbiton, explique le docteur Bernard Montalvan. Sur le coup, il avait eu très, très mal. Il vivait toujours avec un petit bobo, mais il s’est de nouveau blessé, sur un replacement, lors de son dernier match de double à Miami. » L’IRM passée mardi après-midi ne laisse guère de place au doute. « J’ai vu les images vers 18 heures et j’ai tout de suite compris,dit le médecin de l’équipe de France. Vu la lésion, la décision était facile à prendre… Se pose désormais le problème de la guérison. On va laisser passer une petite semaine et on avisera. Mais je ne vois pas trop comment il pourrait échapper à l’opération. » Ce qui signifierait une absence de deux mois sur le circuit. « Dans l’hypothèse la plus optimiste, une arthroscopie du genou, c’est un mois à un mois et demi d’arrêt, poursuit Montalvan. Après, il faut compter la reprise de l’entraînement avant de revenir en compétition. » En cas de complications, le prix à payer serait de six à neuf mois. « C’est aussi pour ça que l’on ne prendra une décision qu’après avoir consulté un bon nombre de spécialistes du genou, conclut le médecin.On ne traite pas un problème de cette nature à la va-vite. »He is back in France already. The doc says they will decide in one week if he needs an arthroscopy, but right now, it isn't looking good. It would mean 2 months out at best and 6 or 9 months if there is any complication, so he will see different specialists before they make a decision.
It’s probably the consequence of a sprain he got in Surbiton last year. He’s been playing with a little pain since then and it reappeared in Miami.

martine2
04-10-2008, 07:24 AM
OMG :sad: This doesn't sound good...
Poor Jo. Hasn't he had his share of injuries already...

Truc
04-10-2008, 07:33 AM
Here’s another longer article with some more details and quotes, I can’t translate it right now, but most of you speak French. He’s crushed, poor guy.Tsonga, la tuile
Victime d’une lésion au ménisque interne du genou droit, le Français a dû déclarer forfait. Il a déjà pris un vol de retour. WINSTON-SALEM – (USA) de notre envoyé spécial

UNE FOIS DE PLUS, le destin a été cruel pour Jo-Wilfried Tsonga. Arrivé dimanche soir à Winston-Salem animé par l’envie de donner une nouvelle preuve de son talent et de sa carrure de champion, il en est reparti précipitamment hier matin, blessé, meurtri, pour tenter de prendre le premier vol de retour pour la France via New York, laissant l’équipe de France orpheline. Et incertain lui-même de son avenir proche : de longues semaines de convalescence, voire une opération, pourraient suivre car une IRM, passée mardi après-midi, a révélé une déchirure du ménisque interne du genou droit (voir ci-dessous), cause des douleurs qui le perturbaient depuis quelques jours. Dans ces conditions, la décision de se passer de lui devenait inévitable. Après avoir consulté Bernard Montalvan, le médecin de l’équipe, Tsonga a remis le cap sur la France : « Avec la proximité des tournois de Roland-Garros et Wimbledon, explique Montalvan, Jo va avoir une décision importante à prendre. Il valait mieux qu’il prenne du recul. Qu’il puisse aussi prendre d’autres avis. »
« Le lendemain, il boitillait »
En partant de Winston-Salem, le héros de Melbourne avait le coeur gros. Samedi dernier, jour de l’ouverture du stage de préparation à Miami, il avait retrouvé avec bonheur l’ambiance de la Coupe Davis découverte en février dernier à Sibiu, en Roumanie. « Le matin du briefing, le discours de Guy nous a fait dresser les poils », avait-il confié un peu plus tard, la mine réjouie. C’est ce jour-là que la petite douleur, déjà ressentie pendant le dernier double à Miami, réapparut :« J’avais cette douleur au genou depuis un petit bout de temps mais je me disais que c’était un de ces petits bobos qu’on trimbale tous à longueur d’année, expliqua-t-il hier par téléphone depuis l’aéroport où il s’était rendu à la première heure. Je sentais quand même qu’il y avait quelque chose qui clochait. J’avais mal au genou quand je devais changer de direction, quand le genou "vrillait" . » « Le lendemain, raconte Forget, il boitillait. Il ne comprenait pas, parce que la veille il avait quand même pu faire deux heures et demie de tennis avec une heure et demie de physique derrière, en essayant de bien contrôler son genou. Jusque-là, il ne sentait qu’une petite douleur qu’il avait surmontée. Le fait de boitiller l’a un peu inquiété. » Décision fut prise de lui donner des anti-inflammatoires et de le laisser au repos dimanche, jour du départ pour Winston-Salem, et lundi, premier jour de l’entraînement sur place. Mais, épaté par la taille de la salle du Lawrence Joel Memorial, après l’entraînement de ses partenaires, il n’avait pas pu s’empêcher de saisir une raquette et de demander à Guy Forget de lui faire faire quelques volées : « Pour sentir la balle. » Le soir, il allait mieux. Tout lui paraissait encore possible, lui qui affirmait avant le départ de Miami : « Un match de Coupe Davis, ça ne peut que me faire grandir. Ça vaut un quart ou une demie de Grand Chelem. Si je joue bien, je peux commencer à faire très peur. »
« Complètement effondré »
Ses espoirs s’envolèrent le lendemain, mardi. Le premier entraînement où on lui demanda, selon les mots de Guy Forget, « de mettre la gomme », eut lieu tôt le matin, avec Richard Gasquet pour partenaire. Au bout d’une heure, il fallut arrêter. Tsonga avait du mal à poser le pied par terre. L’IRM passée dans l’après-midi ne laissa pas de place au doute : le ménisque interne était touché. La décision fut hélas évidente : « C’est difficile de quitter cette rencontre comme ça, expliquait-il. Pour moi, c’était un objectif majeur. On joue au tennis pour vivre des moments comme celui-là. Je suis complètement effondré. Ça fait ch... D’abord parce que je suis avec des mecs que j’apprécie. Ensuite, parce que c’était un gros match à jouer. Voilà, on avait passé une super semaine ensemble. Là, tout le monde est défait, moi le premier. Le plus frustrant, c’est de ne pas savoir d’où ça vient. Et de ne pas savoir combien de temps ça va me prendre. Je ne sais pas si ça va se résorber tout seul ou si je vais devoir me faire opérer. Ce qui est certain, c’est que je ne peux pas jouer si la douleur persiste. Là, pendant une petite semaine, je vais rester " en convalescence " . » Car la vraie question désormais pour lui est celle de son avenir, bien au-delà de la rencontre de ce week-end. Cet avenir qui prenait enfin des couleurs riantes après des années de galère, et que la blessure assombrit soudain : « Je suis à mon meilleur classement, j’avais de bonnes chances de l’améliorer… Ça va me faire perdre quelques semaines importantes. Je ne sais pas combien… J’espère être rétabli pour Roland… » Rien n’est malheureusement moins sûr. Comme l’an passé, il sera peut-être forcé de faire l’impasse sur la saison de terre battue, dans l’espoir d’être remis pour le grand mois du gazon. Car si l’équipe de France, elle, peut compter sur un remplaçant de choix – Paul-Henri Mathieu –, lui n’a pas de jambe de rechange. PHILIPPE BOUIN (avec V. C. et F. R.)

martine2
04-10-2008, 07:38 AM
Poor Jo :sad:

Truc
04-10-2008, 11:14 AM
Just a short summary, there aren't any new informations anyway, it just describes his state of mind:

They use in this article the word "déchirure" ("tear"), not just "inflammation".
The doc means it was better for him to leave Salem immediately to be able to to see other specialists in France and also to think calmly about the right decision to take.
He was very demoralized to leave. On Saturday, he was still looking so excited to play in DC again, said to the journalists Forget's speech gave him gooseflesh.
But the knee pain reappeared on that day too. It had been bothering a little bit for a while, but he thought it was just one of these small problems they all have on the tour. Something didn't feel right though. It was hurting when he had to change the direction, he was also slightly limping.
They decided with Forget he would take anti-inflammatories and rest until Monday (first day of training in Salem). But he was so impressed by the venue that he asked Forget to practice a little bit his volley after the training sessions of the other guys. On Monday evening, he was feeling better, it still seemed doable.
On Tuesday, Forget asked him to give it all in training with Richie and after one hour, he had to stop because he could hardly put the foot on the ground. He had an MRI on the same day and knew it was over.
He says he's crushed because he likes the guys on the team and it was such an exciting tie, they had an awesome week together and now, everybody is downcast. The most frustrating thing for him is that he doesn't know the real cause and how long it will take to heal. But one thing is sure, he can't keep playing like that.
He means he hopes to be ready for Roland - but it's everything but sure, the journalist adds, and he might have to skip the entire clay season again. The French team has a first class alternative with Paulo, but unfortunately Jo has no "spare" leg.

amdany
04-10-2008, 03:14 PM
Damn, :awww::banghead:I hope he'll recover soon:hug:

PinkFeatherBoa
04-10-2008, 04:52 PM
That's awful luck, poor Jo, hope he recovers soon!!

scotthongkong
04-12-2008, 07:42 AM
Just a short summary, there aren't any new informations anyway, it just describes his state of mind:

They use in this article the word "déchirure" ("tear"), not just "inflammation".
The doc means it was better for him to leave Salem immediately to be able to to see other specialists in France and also to think calmly about the right decision to take.
He was very demoralized to leave. On Saturday, he was still looking so excited to play in DC again, said to the journalists Forget's speech gave him gooseflesh.
But the knee pain reappeared on that day too. It had been bothering a little bit for a while, but he thought it was just one of these small problems they all have on the tour. Something didn't feel right though. It was hurting when he had to change the direction, he was also slightly limping.
They decided with Forget he would take anti-inflammatories and rest until Monday (first day of training in Salem). But he was so impressed by the venue that he asked Forget to practice a little bit his volley after the training sessions of the other guys. On Monday evening, he was feeling better, it still seemed doable.
On Tuesday, Forget asked him to give it all in training with Richie and after one hour, he had to stop because he could hardly put the foot on the ground. He had an MRI on the same day and knew it was over.
He says he's crushed because he likes the guys on the team and it was such an exciting tie, they had an awesome week together and now, everybody is downcast. The most frustrating thing for him is that he doesn't know the real cause and how long it will take to heal. But one thing is sure, he can't keep playing like that.
He means he hopes to be ready for Roland - but it's everything but sure, the journalist adds, and he might have to skip the entire clay season again. The French team has a first class alternative with Paulo, but unfortunately Jo has no "spare" leg.

What a terrible tragedy for Jo. He would really have done well in the Davis Cup. Thank you very much for translating for us. I appreciate the efforts.

JBdV
04-12-2008, 05:41 PM
:sad: terrible news.

Truc
04-16-2008, 06:36 AM
Don't worry because of the thread in GM about him being out for months, he had more medical exams which confirmed something is wrong with his meniscus, but they haven't decided anything yet. And Wino actually seems to say today in L'Equipe there definitely is a chance he doesn't need an operation:
TSONGA TOUJOURS DANS L’ATTENTE. – Jo-Wilfried Tsonga qui souffre d’une lésion du ménisque droit depuis la semaine dernière, a passé des examens hier qui ont confirmé la blessure détectée aux États-Unis. Si le diagnostic n’a pas changé, la thérapie fait toujours débat. « On en saura plus durant la semaine, puisque le docteur Montalvan est en train d’organiser un rendez-vous avec des spécialistes du genou », précisait hier Éric Winogradzky l’entraîneur du finaliste du dernier Open d’Australie. « J’aurais tendance à dire, poursuit Wino très prudent dans le choix de ses mots, qu’il y a une petite chance qu’il évite l’opération. Impression qui demande quand même à être confirmée lors de la réunion à venir. » Une intervention chirurgicale, quelle qu’elle soit, signifierait un arrêt de deux mois pour le numéro 15 mondial.So the only news are that they still don't know yet!

MacArthur
04-16-2008, 06:55 AM
Great Thanks for the News, Truc.

He nearly shocked me to death me with his thread in GM. :eek:

It seems to me with this article that it's more between now to two months at max out, than between 2 and 9 months.

Turquoise
04-16-2008, 09:42 AM
Many thanks, Truc for the credible sources of information. I just want Tsonga to come back healthy and strong, bounding with his amazing energy and spirit. I miss him already.

Truc
04-16-2008, 12:04 PM
You're welcome, this thread in GM is driving me nuts. :lol:
I just posted the last update in GM, his agent says he won't need surgery and shouldn't have to skip the entire clay season:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=6886500&postcount=32

MacArthur
04-16-2008, 12:37 PM
I am so relieved :worship:

It's too awsome to know that he will be there for the essential of the clay season, Roland in particular :devil:

martine2
04-16-2008, 12:57 PM
Good there is this thread to get the right information ;)

amdany
04-16-2008, 01:12 PM
Good there is this thread to get the right information ;)

:worship:

~*BGT*~
04-17-2008, 02:32 AM
Any updates? :)

JBdV
04-17-2008, 03:58 AM
Happy birthday Jo :aparty: Relieved to hear he won't need an operation, would be great to see him at RG.

Truc
04-17-2008, 07:07 AM
TSONGA GARDE ESPOIR. – Comme on pouvait s’y attendre, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, blessé au ménisque du genou droit, a officialisé son forfait pour le tournoi de Monte-Carlo qui commence lundi. Mais le Français s’est montré optimiste pour la suite de la saison sur terre battue et espère éviter l’opération. « J’ai effectué un arthroscanner, a-t-il expliqué. Les médecins sont plutôt optimistes par rapport au premier diagnostic. J’ai subi une infiltration et je dois attendre dix jours pour savoir comment mon genou va réagir. Je ferai donc un test en milieu de semaine prochaine. Si j’ai encore mal, on prendra une décision sur la marche à suivre. Pour le moment, aucune opération n’est prévue, même s’il est vrai que le ménisque est un peu touché. Je n’ai pas fait une croix sur Roland-Garros. » Souvent blessé par le passé, Tsonga garde le moral. « Je vis cette blessure plutôt bien. J’ai connu des coups bien plus durs que celui-là. C’est un défi de plus à relever. »
"I had an 'arthroscanner'. The doctors are rather optimistic compared to the first diagnosis. I had an injection and I have to wait 10 days to see how the knee is doing. I’ll test it in the middle of the last week. If I’m still in pain, we’ll decide on the next step. So far, no surgery is planned, even though the meniscus is a bit damaged. I haven’t given up on playing Roland-Garros."
"I’m not demoralized by this injury. I went through much tougher things before. It’s one more challenge."

martine2
04-17-2008, 07:31 AM
Thanks for the update :)

Good to hear he's keeping his head up because it must be tough for him...

lilibel13
04-17-2008, 04:10 PM
There is a wonderful report about JO and his travel to the congo in the tennis magazine , and there are beautiful pics too;)

amdany
04-17-2008, 04:32 PM
happy birthday to Jo:bdaycake::aparty: