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~Davis Cup 2006: 1st round against Germany~

*julie*
09-29-2005, 04:34 PM
I was secretly hoping a geat year for the french team in the Davis Cup...in 2006 :angel: . After 1991, 1996 and 2001... it would have been logical.
But the draw has been done, and it's gonna be very tough.
1st round: Germany (in Germany)
2nd round: Netherlands or.........Russia :mad:
Now, for sure the are damned! :(

Here is an article + interview of the french captain Guy Forget. From fft.fr:

29/09 - 13h02
Coupe Davis : l'Allemagne pour commencer
Le tirage au sort du groupe mondial de la Coupe Davis 2006 a été effectué ce jeudi midi, à Paris, au siège de BNP Paribas. L'équipe de France a hérité d'un premier tour délicat. Elle se rendra en Allemagne, en février. Guy Forget, le capitaine français, donne son avis sur ce tirage au sort qu'il qualifie de "difficile".

Le tirage au sort a réservé un premier tour délicat à la France, qui avait l'avantage d'être tête de série. Avec Tommy Haas, Nicolas Kiefer ou Rainer Schuettler, l'Allemagne dispose en effet de joueurs de premier plan, même si elle n'a plus brillé en Coupe Davis depuis les retraites de Michael Stich et de Boris Becker. Cet Allemagne France se disputera les 10, 11 et 12 février.

La dernière confrontation entre les deux équipes remonte à 1996. En quarts de finale, à Limoges, la France s'était imposée cinq points à zéro.

En cas de succès, les Bleus seraient opposés en quarts de cette édition 2006 (les 7, 8 et 9 avril) à la Russie (en France) ou aux Pays-Bas (en Hollande), deux nations qu'ils ont récemment affrontés à plusieurs reprises.


La réaction de Guy Forget :

Guy, le sort vous a réservé l’Allemagne, à l’extérieur, au premier tour de la Coupe Davis 2006. Quel est votre sentiment ?
C’est une rencontre qui s’annonce difficile, surtout si Tommy Haas et Nicolas Kiefer sont en forme et jouent bien à ce moment là. Ce sont des garçons qui, l’un comme l’autre, ont fait partie des meilleurs joueurs du monde, et qui, aujourd’hui semblent être revenus tout près de leur "top". Ce premier tour promet donc d’être très dur, d’autant que nous allons évoluer à l’extérieur. Maintenant, au niveau du tirage, on aurait pu aller jouer au Chili, au bout du monde. Avec l’Allemagne, on a la chance que ce ne soit pas trop loin ; nos supporters pourront effectuer le déplacement, c’est un petit plus pour nous. Comme le fait de pouvoir compter sur des joueurs d’expérience comme Sébastien Grosjean, et des jeunes comme Gasquet qui, d’ici la rencontre, pourront encore progresser.

Que redoutez-vous particulièrement chez les Allemands ?
Nicolas Kiefer et Tommy Haas sont des garçons solides. Par conséquent, pour les battre, il faudra sortir de gros matches. Ce sont des joueurs étalons, qui ne se « trouent » jamais. Ils sont très complets. On peut s’attendre à ce qu’ils se battent jusqu’au bout, surtout devant leur public.

Sur quel type de surface vous attendez-vous à jouer ?
Je n’en sais rien. Peut-être du ciment, une surface assez neutre. Je ne pense pas que la terre battue soit leur meilleure surface. En fait, je m’attends plutôt à jouer sur une surface synthétique.

La dernière rencontre France – Allemagne remonte à 1996. C’était à Limoges, et l’équipe de France, dont vous faisiez partie, s’était alors imposée 5-0. Est-ce de bon augure ?
Même si le score paraît sévère, les matches avaient été assez durs ; et si je me souviens bien, Boris Becker n’avait joué que le double. L’équipe d’Allemagne dans sa version actuelle est peut-être moins médiatique que sa devancière, mais elle est plus forte, plus complète. Alors, méfiance…

Marine
09-29-2005, 06:23 PM
arghhhhhhhh bloody Russians :mad:

*julie*
09-29-2005, 06:49 PM
arghhhhhhhh bloody Russians :mad:
Hopefully, this time Seb will join the team... :rolleyes:

delsa
09-29-2005, 07:10 PM
Hey! The Russians just did their job and well! You can't reproch them anything. Blame those of your teams which lost to them so many times!

Bloody French teams of the time! :mad: :lol:

The draw's not too bad.
I'm glad you're more reasonable here than those in GM (but still you seem to focus on Russia when the first opponent which shouldn't be forgotten is Germany IN GERMANY...) so that here i'll be the optimistic one! Not like in GM where i was accused of being a whiner (by Vincayou FYI). :lol:

The first encounters are winnable. If they win it will be tigh but it's possible. Your team is "young" but talented and versatile enough which is a great plus in DC.

Let's hope Grosjean will play. You're right Julie.

Haas and Kiefer, both ex top 10...
;)

*julie*
09-29-2005, 07:38 PM
Let's hope Grosjean will play. You're right Julie.
;)

Well yes! It would be better for the team.
That's sad that Paulo disappointed so many people in the last DC match against Russia. He had done great things in the Davis Cup against Spain and Sweden in the past. But now, I guess no one wants to see him back in the team cos he is again the Paulo *who makes the team loose* :sad:
Now, I just hope Seb will come back in the team. :rolleyes:

Saumon
09-29-2005, 08:44 PM
arghhhhhhhh bloody Russians :mad:
will paul-henri play if we meet russia? :tape:

Hangdog
09-30-2005, 05:52 AM
bloody Russians?.. Ah mes pauvres Français... :devil:

the Paulo *who makes the team loose* :sad:
Now, I just hope Seb will come back in the team. :rolleyes:

How many times Seb's lost to Davydenko in this season, 3?.. :rolleyes:

And delsa is right, to play against germans in Germany is not so easy, they have a very strong team.

*julie*
09-30-2005, 07:27 AM
How many times Seb's lost to Davydenko in this season, 3?.. :rolleyes:

And delsa is right, to play against germans in Germany is not so easy, they have a very strong team.

Davydenko? Don't talk about Davydenko :scared: :scared: :scared:
I was talking about Seb to come back in the DC team because we will need him if we want to reach the 2nd round.
The 2nd round will be another story :rolleyes:

silverwhite
09-30-2005, 03:28 PM
If Seb, Richard, Paulo, Mika, Arnaud and Fabrice all offer to play, France has a great chance of doing well. :)

Marine
09-30-2005, 06:48 PM
If Seb, Richard, Paulo, Mika, Arnaud and Fabrice all offer to play, France has a great chance of doing well. :)

In short...without Paulo... :rolleyes:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
09-30-2005, 08:04 PM
will paul-henri play if we meet russia? :tape:
Russia again! :armed:
I prefer he at most will be picked to play one match. :tape:
Allez Paulo :smooch: and France. :bounce:

delsa
10-01-2005, 12:03 AM
bloody Russians?.. Ah mes pauvres Français... :devil:

Hehe :devil: :yeah:

Irina is one Russian Marine must like at least, no? ;) :p
Irina :hug:

I for one here :hearts: Russia. I'd love to go there at least once! :)
And their players (and whole people...) aren't to be blamed for the draw... :rolleyes:
(But wait, maybe Boris...just kidding lol)

And it's high time the exclusion of Fabrice stops too...

But the problem won't be Davydenko in February, again, it will be Haas and Kiefer. I'm insisting... ;) Who would be the other German threats?...Rainer Schuettler, Alexander Waske like for their last play-off match against the Czech?

So... H2Hs (from the ATP site so they don't know about Challengers, etc...):

Against Haas:

Seb vs. Haas: 4-3 (Seb lost their last 3 meetings...)
-2004 US Open, NY, USA, Hard, R64
Haas 4-6 / 4-6 / 6-1 / 1-6
-2002 Indianapolis, IN, USA, Hard, Q
Haas 3-6 / 6-3 / 3-6
-2002 Rome TMS, Italy , Clay, R16
Haas 3-6 / 4-6
-2001 Paris-Bercy TMS, France, Carpet, S
Grosjean 7-5 / 6-4
-2000 Paris Indoor, France, Carpet, R32
Grosjean 7-5 / 6-4
-2000 Stuttgart Indoor, Germany, Hard, R64
Grosjean 6-4 / 6-2
-1999 Monte Carlo, Monaco, Clay, R32
Grosjean 7-5 / 6-2

Richard vs. Haas: 0-0

Paulo vs. Haas: 2-0 not too bad :cool:
-2005 ATP Masters Series Cincinnati, Ohio, USA, Hard, R64
Mathieu 6-3 / 2-6 / 6-1
-2005 ATP Masters Series Indian Wells, California, USA, Hard, R64
Mathieu 7-6 / 6-3

Nono vs. Haas: 0-5 Gosh, a pigeon... :o
-2001 Long Island, New York, USA, Hard, S
Haas 3-6 / 6-7
-2001 Montréal / Toronto TMS, Montréal, Québec, Canada, Hard, Q
Haas 2-6 / 4-6
-2000 Vienna, Austria, Hard, R16
Haas 2-6 / 1-6
-1998 Lyon, France, Carpet, R32
Haas 2-6 / 7-6 / 4-6
-1998 Vienna, Austria, Carpet, R32
Haas 4-6 / 6-1 / 3-6

Gaël vs. Haas: 0-0

Mica vs. Haas: 0-0

Fabrice vs. Haas: 3-6
-2002 Madrid TMS, Spain, Hard, R32
Santoro 7-6 / 4-1 ret.
-2002 Montréal / Toronto TMS, Toronto, Canada, Hard, Q
Haas 4-6 / 6-4 / 3-6
-1999 Cincinnati, OH, USA, Hard, R32
Haas 0-6 / 7-6 / 3-6
-1999 Australian Open, Australia, Hard, R16
Haas 2-6 / 3-6 / 5-7
-1998 Lyon, France, Carpet, R16
Haas 6-2 / 3-6 / 5-7
-1998 Montréal / Toronto TMS, Toronto, Canada, Hard, R32
Haas 6-7 / 2-6
-1998 World Team Cup, Germany, Clay, RR
Haas 5-7 / 2-6
-1998 Hamburg, Germany, Clay, R32
Santoro 6-4 / 6-4
-1997 Lyon, France, Carpet, F
Santoro 6-4 / 6-4

Against Kiefer:

Seb vs. Kiwi: 3-2 (only one win on HC against Kiwi...)
-2005 ATP Masters Series Hamburg, Germany, Clay, R32
Grosjean 2-6 / 6-3 / 6-4
-2004 Miami AMS, FL, USA, Hard, R16
Kiefer 4-6 / 2-6
-2002 Indianapolis, IN, USA, Hard, R16
Grosjean 7-6 / 6-3
-2000 Gstaad, Switzerland, Clay, R16
Grosjean 6-3 / 6-1
-1999 Cincinnati, OH, USA, Hard, R64
Kiefer 5-7 / 3-6

Richard vs. Kiwi: 0-0

Nono vs. Kiwi: 1-5 Hum... Not a choice for a selection in singles... :o
-2005 US Open, NY, USA, Hard, R32
Kiefer 4-6 / 7-6 / 4-6 / 1-6
-2005 Roland Garros, Paris, France, Clay, R64
Kiefer 6-4 / 2-6 / 2-6 / 6-4 / 4-6
-2003 Halle, Germany, Grass, S
Kiefer 6-4 / 6-7 / 4-6
-2001 Halle, Germany, Grass, R32
Kiefer 3-6 / 4-6
-1999 US Open, NY, USA, Hard, R32
Clément 4-6 / 6-4 / 6-4 / 6-2
-1999 Key Biscayne, FL, USA, Hard, R64
Kiefer 1-6 / 2-6

Gaël vs. Kiwi: 0-0

Mica vs. Kiwi: 0-0

Fabrice vs. Kiwi: 6-0 a pigeon in their team..."Safin syndrome"? :devil:
-2002 Indian Wells, California, USA TMS, Hard, R32
Santoro 7-6 / 6-1
-2001 Montréal / Toronto TMS, Montréal, Québec, Canada, Hard, R32
Santoro 4-6 / 6-4 / 6-3
-2001 Hamburg TMS, Germany, Clay, R16
Santoro 6-3 / 6-3
-2000 Indian Wells, CA, USA, Hard, R64
Santoro 6-1 / 6-4
-2000 Doha, Qatar, Hard, S
Santoro 7-5 / 6-4
-1999 Australian Open, Australia, Hard, R32
Santoro 7-6 / 6-1 / 6-3

Paulo vs. Kiwi: 0-1 during Paulo's horrible year of injuries and bad form so the relevance of this result...
-2003 Long Island, New York, USA, Hard, R32
Kiefer 6-4 / 6-7 / 3-6

Against Schuettler:

Seb vs. Rainer: 2-1
-2003 Tokyo, Japan, Hard, F
Schuettler 6-7 / 2-6
-2001 Wimbledon, London, England, Grass, R64
Grosjean 7-5 / 6-2 / 7-6
-2000 Stockholm, Sweden, Hard, Q
Grosjean 6-7 / 5-7 / 7-6

Richard vs. Rainer: 0-0

La Clé vs. Rainer: 1-2
-2003 Lyon, France, Carpet, F
Schuettler 5-7 / 3-6
-2002 Paris TMS, France, Carpet, R64
Clément 7-5 / 6-3
-1999 Stuttgart, Germany, Outdoor, Clay, R64
Schuettler 3-6 / 4-6

Paulo vs. Rainer: 2-2
-2003 Lyon, France, Carpet, R32
Schuettler 2-6 / 2-6
-2003 Kitzbühel, Austria, Clay, R32
Mathieu 6-4 / 3-6 / 6-3
-2002 Moscow, Russia, Carpet, Q
Mathieu 4-6 / 6-2 / 6-3
-2002 Australian Open, Australia, Hard, R128
Schuettler 6-2 / 1-6 / 6-4 / 1-6 / 4-6

Gaël vs. Rainer: 0-0

Fabrice vs. Rainer: 3-3 (two retirements from Schuettler...)
-2003 Wimbledon, London, England, Grass, R64
Schuettler 2-6 / 3-6 / 3-6
-2003 Monte Carlo TMS, Monaco, Clay, R64
Schuettler 1-6 / 2-6
-2000 Doha, Hard, Qatar, F
Santoro 3-6 / 7-5 / 3-0 ret.
-1999 Paris Indoor, France, Carpet, R64
Santoro 6-2 / 6-3
-1999 Lyon, France, Carpet, R64
Schuettler 1-6 / 1-6
-1999 Copenhagen, Denmark, Carpet, Q
Santoro 6-3 / 2-0 ret.

Against Waske:
They're all 0-0 against him except La Clé who leads 1-0 in their H2H (he won against him relatively recently ON GRASS and IN GERMANY...:aplot: ):
-2004 Halle, Germany, Grass, R32
Clément 6-1 / 6-4

Voilà! A lot to "meditate" on... ;)

Via
10-01-2005, 12:32 AM
thanks for the great stats and commentary, delsa :yeah:

i don't think arnaud at his current ranking and form should be considered for dc singles anyway, unless there isn't another choice! lol

of course a few months can change things greatly for any player. so i won't speculate now.

Ome
10-01-2005, 02:55 AM
Who knows, Russia might lose in the 1st round... :lol: :angel:

silverwhite
10-01-2005, 03:57 AM
In short...without Paulo... :rolleyes:

No, no. I included Paulo. You must have missed it. :p

delsa
10-01-2005, 01:03 PM
Friday's L'Equipe article about this 2006 World Group DC draw:

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5948/equipevendredi29septembre2005t.th.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=equipevendredi29septembre2005t.jpg)ht tp://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8281/equipevendredi29septembretirag.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=equipevendredi29septembretirag.th.jpg )

And Kiefer and Haas are actually both ex top 5 players: Haas' career-high ranking was n° 3 in in January 8th 2001; he's now ranked 39 and Kiefer's career-high ranking was n°4 in February 21th 2000; he's now at the 36th spot...;)

Translations? Any Frenchie ready to give it a try?...

delsa
10-12-2005, 10:43 PM
From the November 2005 Fr Tennis Mag', scans of 2 pages about this.

Kezzi
11-11-2005, 09:07 PM
Don't be afraid of Russia losing. I think they have a good chance of winning from Holland, because almost all of our best players usually are injured at the time of DC and the tie will be in Amsterdam and Sluiter hates Amsterdam. He said it would be his first 'away game' in The Netherlands itself :lol:

But knowing that doesn't stop me from wanting Holland to win, not so much because I am from Holland though :p . My reasons are that I can't stand Safin (sorry for the fans, but I am entitled to my own opinion :) ) and that France will be shown on Dutch tv, so I have a chance to see my fav country in action :D :p .

delsa
11-12-2005, 06:03 PM
Re: 2006 Davis Cup Draw

Germany vs France will be in Halle (hardcourt)

:shrug:

delsa
11-12-2005, 06:10 PM
Don't be afraid of Russia losing.
I don't think that's what they fear. 'afraid' is not the perfect word to say the least. ;)

I think they have a good chance of winning from Holland, because almost all of our best players usually are injured at the time of DC
:sad:

and the tie will be in Amsterdam and Sluiter hates Amsterdam. He said it would be his first 'away game' in The Netherlands itself :lol:
:eek: What does he think is so hatable about Amsterdam? :lol:
It's a cool city from what everyone says. http://yelims1.free.fr/Soif/Soif12.gif & :smoke:.

But knowing that doesn't stop me from wanting Holland to win, not so much because I am from Holland though :p . My reasons are that I can't stand Safin (sorry for the fans, but I am entitled to my own opinion :) )
That's your right but http://yelims4.free.fr/Pasdaccord/NonNon03.gif.

and that France will be shown on Dutch tv, so I have a chance to see my fav country in action :D :p .
;)

delsa
11-12-2005, 06:40 PM
How could they lose with such a Mascot? :rolls:
Do you think that he's called Diomède like the one of the rugby team? :D

http://img418.imageshack.us/img418/4368/diomde4vy.jpg

delsa
11-12-2005, 06:47 PM
Re: 2006 Davis Cup Draw

Germany vs France will be in Halle (hardcourt)

:shrug:

Searching for photos of the mascot i found this confirmation on the Aseft site ;) :

1ER TOUR C. DAVIS 2006 ALLEMAGNE/FRANCE

Postée le 12/11/2005

Rendez-vous à Halle!

Annoncé officiellement sur le site de la Fédération allemande, le 1er tour de la Coupe Davis entre l'Allemagne et la France aura lieu à Halle/Westphalie les 10, 11 et 12 février 2006.

Cette ville du Nord de l'Allemagne, située à 664 km de Paris accueille tous les ans un des rares tournois sur gazon du circuit (ce qui ne veut pas dire que la rencontre aura lieu sur herbe). La salle de 12.500 spectateurs fait parti d'un superbe complexe créé par un riche Allemand fan de Wimbledon. Le central est donc une copie du central londonien!!!

Attention!!! Il y a beaucoup de villes nommées Halle en Allemagne, nous vous donnerons très rapidement toutes les infos nécéssaires à votre voyage.

Cette saison s'annonce chaude bouillante, avec un premier tour encore plus corsé que le France/Suède de 2005!
Ce 1er tour, pour l'année du titre pour la France hein? ;-) (1991, 1996, 2001, 2006???)...nous propose une affiche digne d'une finale...

La tribune bleue battra t'elle son record du 1er tour de l'an passé (230 supporteurs de l'ASEFT) ou de l'étrangers (150 supporteurs de l'ASEFT)?? Relevons le défi ensemble!

En attendant les infos sur ce w.e...consultez la galerie photos de Russie / France en attendant d'espèrer les rencontrer au deuxième tour de 2006...

4 commentaires


Nothing on L'Équipe.fr, Sport24.fr etc... so far. :confused:

Tonight there's also a France vs. Germany in football right now. ;)

But i'm for Germany in that since neither Giuly or Zizou (Thuram is but ...still) are playing. :p

delsa
11-12-2005, 07:06 PM
Does someone feel like translating this? ^ :p

delsa
11-12-2005, 07:49 PM
http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/4400/bercyprogramme2cp.th.jpg (http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bercyprogramme2cp.jpg)http://img500.imageshack.us/img500/6587/bercyprogramme24ne.th.jpg (http://img500.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bercyprogramme24ne.jpg)

Kezzi
11-13-2005, 12:37 PM
Re: 2006 Davis Cup Draw



:shrug:
Halle in Nord Rhein Westfalen or the other Halle? :p

edit: Never mind, it says Halle/Westphalie in the article you posted ;)
I'm happy now, because I live really close to that part of Germany :bounce:

Kezzi
11-13-2005, 12:56 PM
I don't think that's what they fear. 'afraid' is not the perfect word to say the least. ;)


:sad:


:eek: What does he think is so hatable about Amsterdam? :lol:
It's a cool city from what everyone says. http://yelims1.free.fr/Soif/Soif12.gif & :smoke:.


That's your right but http://yelims4.free.fr/Pasdaccord/NonNon03.gif.


;)
Í ddn't mean it in the way that they really have to be afraid, I meant it more in a 'I don;t think Russia's going to lose' way :) . But I'm not really good in expressing myself in English :p .

Yeah, it's especially sad for the really die-hard Holland fans ;) I'm always for France in the DC :p .

Raemon Sluiter is from Rotterdam and I don't know how to explain it really well. But mostly the people from Rotterdam and Amsterdam don't get along really well, don't know the exact reason, but I believe it has something to do with the soccerclubs Feyenoord (Rotterdam) and Ajax (Amsterdam). And Raemon is a big Feyenoord fan :p .

*julie*
11-16-2005, 11:15 AM
Just a piece of interview of Seb done during the PNB Paribas Masters. It seems he wants to be back in the DC team... :D

L'émergence de Gasquet et Monfils, est-ce stimulant ?
Oui, c'est une bonne chose pour tout le tennis français. Mais le tennis reste un sport individuel. Il faut donc vraiment essayer d'avoir les meilleurs résultats, de faire une bonne préparation, sans faire trop attention aux résultats des autres. En Coupe Davis, c'est un plus, c'est mieux pour le capitaine d'avoir le choix entre plusieurs joueurs pour une rencontre.

La Coupe Davis est à votre programme ?
Oui, c'est à mon programme et la Coupe Davis a toujours été à mon programme toutes ces années même si je n'ai pas joué au mois de juillet pour des raisons que j'ai expliquées.

Cela n'a pas provoqué de cassure avec l'équipe ?
Non, j'ai discuté avec toute l'équipe, il n'y a pas de problème.»

I am happy to hear there are no problems between them :)

stephB
11-26-2005, 08:50 AM
hey girls. you can buy the tickets for halle now!!!

*julie*
12-04-2005, 08:36 PM
From FFT.fr
This is an extract from a Santoro interview. It seems that he could be back in the team...

Après votre conférence de presse à Bercy, vous deviez rencontrer Guy Forget à propos de la Coupe Davis. Qu’en est-il ressorti ?
On s’est vu ce dimanche à Genève. Cela s’est très bien passé. Ce fut une discussion très positive, constructive et de bon augure.

Vous vous voyez bien dans l’équipe au premier tour de la campagne 2006 contre l’Allemagne…
Tant que je serai en activité, si je sens que l’équipe peut être plus forte avec moi que sans moi, je répondrai présent. C’est aussi simple que ça. Aujourd’hui, si je suis dans l’équipe, je pense que je peux lui apporter quelque chose. Forcément, je me mets à disposition. Le jour où je n’aurai plus cette certitude, je m’écarterai, je laisserai la place aux autres, ce qui est tout à fait normal.

Kezzi
01-05-2006, 08:42 PM
I bought the tickets friday, I can't wait till February :D :bounce: I'm really excited to go to my first DC ever :bounce: :woohoo: :banana:

delsa
01-20-2006, 10:21 PM
I now fear the worst for this considering today's situation...
But i like Germany's team a lot anyway so...;) :p
May the best team win and we see good tennis, fair-play and all that (bla bla bla...)!

*julie*
01-20-2006, 10:43 PM
I now fear the worst for this considering today's situation...
But i like Germany's team a lot anyway so...;) :p
May the best team win and we see good tennis, fair-play and all that (bla bla bla...)!
Allons Delsa! Ils n'ont pas encore perdu... :p ;)

All I can say is that Guy Forget will have some headaches to choose the next DC team. :rolleyes:

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 03:18 AM
Probably Seb, Paulo, Fab and Micka. Unless Richard gets back into form in time. :o

willrock
01-21-2006, 05:48 AM
All I can say is that Guy Forget will have some headaches to choose the next DC team. :rolleyes:

Definitely :scratch:
Fab, Séb, Richard, Gael, Paulo are all contenders and they're already 5! :eek:
Plus among these only Fab is good at doubles, which means one between Mika and Arnaud has to be picked.
That makes 7 contenders (even 8 if we consider Florent as one)...
At least Guy Forget has the choice but this may turn out to be real headache!

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 06:20 AM
I don't think there's a better combination than Fab and Micka in doubles. :shrug:

*julie*
01-21-2006, 05:26 PM
Probably Seb, Paulo, Fab and Micka. Unless Richard gets back into form in time. :o

The reactions of Forget after Richard's loss have been sent in a thread...don't remember which one though. He wasn't really pessimistic regarding Richard. For sure Richard will be in the team.

I agree Micka and Santoro deserve to play the double.
Seb leads 4-3 in the head to head against Haas and 3-2 against Kiefer, so the team will need him.

Then, Forget will have to choose between Gael and Paulo for the 5th man.

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 05:38 PM
The reactions of Forget after Richard's loss have been sent in a thread...don't remember which one though. He wasn't really pessimistic regarding Richard. For sure Richard will be in the team.

I agree Micka and Santoro deserve to play the double.
Seb leads 4-3 in the head to head against Haas and 3-2 against Kiefer, so the team will need him.

Then, Forget will have to choose between Gael and Paulo for the 5th man.

Yeah. I've read them. He does mention that Richard needs to get some confidence back though. :shrug: What I meant was that he might choose Richard but not let him play. :p

It's a tough choice between Paulo and Gael. Paulo has the DC experience but Gael has been playing well (except for the AO). Maybe it'll come down to how they fare during the next few weeks. :shrug:

Marine
01-21-2006, 05:45 PM
Forget admited it was not good for gael, this australian open, because a match of davis cup is much more pression for a player than a first round of grand slam ! It sounds pessimistic for him.
Anyway I want Paulo to play :angel:

silverwhite
01-21-2006, 05:48 PM
Anyway I want Paulo to play :angel:

Me too. :angel:

esther
01-22-2006, 07:56 AM
You'd think Seb, Paulo, Fabrice and Mika wouldnt you??

Sammy
01-22-2006, 09:13 AM
You'd think Seb, Paulo, Fabrice and Mika wouldnt you??


Sounds good to me.

Marine
01-22-2006, 09:42 AM
You'd think Seb, Paulo, Fabrice and Mika wouldnt you??

I think it's logical.

*julie*
01-22-2006, 05:50 PM
Forget admited it was not good for gael, this australian open, because a match of davis cup is much more pression for a player than a first round of grand slam ! It sounds pessimistic for him.
Anyway I want Paulo to play :angel:

Paulo's head to head against Haas is 2-0 :) Both on hard courts. So, i think he gets a slight advantage over Gael to be in the team. ;)

delsa
01-22-2006, 06:20 PM
Paulo's head to head against Haas is 2-0 :) Both on hard courts. So, i think he gets a slight advantage over Gael to be in the team. ;)
Was it useful that i posted the H2H? :D
I thought it looked like i was very bored...

I think the team could be Grosjean, PHM, Santoro, Llodra, Gasquet/Gaël (one of the youngsters won't make the trip to Halle...).

*julie*
01-22-2006, 09:12 PM
Was it useful that i posted the H2H? :D
I thought it looked like i was very bored...

I think the team could be Grosjean, PHM, Santoro, Llodra, Gasquet/Gaël (one of the youngsters won't make the trip to Halle...).

Your posts are always useful, Delsa ;)

I think Forget will more hesitate to make a choice between Paulo and Gael than between Gael and Richard. :scratch:

Richard is the french number one and the only one in the top 20 so... it would make more sense :shrug:

delsa
01-24-2006, 09:42 PM
Thx. Bon j'avoue j'attendais de me faire cirer les pompes...:lol:

True. Depends if he'll focus more on form or on rankings...:shrug:

Marine
01-25-2006, 12:44 PM
Interview of Forget in l'Equipe:

PREMIER ENSEIGNEMENT de l’Open d’Australie : les Allemands sont très forts…

– Oui, pousser Federer en cinq sets comme l’a fait Haas, peu de joueurs en sont capables, en plus avec la manière. Nous sommes fixés pour la prochaine rencontre de Coupe Davis.

– Deuxième enseignement : les candidats à la sélection en équipe de France sont nombreux…

– Oui, mais ce n’est pas la décision la plus difficile que j’ai eu à prendre. Je n’ai pas encore arrêté mon choix, mais une chose est sûre, il y aura une belle équipe de France.

– À la question : “Guy Forget peut-il se passer de Fabrice Santoro ?”, les lecteurs de L’Équipe ont répondu. Connaissez-vous la réponse ?

– Non, mais cela ne m’intéresse pas de savoir ce que pensent les gens. Personne n’est à ma place et ne peut connaître tous les éléments que j’ai en ma possession depuis maintenant sept ans, d’un point de vue tennistique, d’un point de vue affectif…

– Voulez-vous la réponse quand même (*) ?

– Mais je la connais, la réponse ! Bien sûr que les gens vont dire que ce serait bien que Santoro revienne. Forcément ! Et je trouve ça normal.

– De ce fait, difficile de comprendre pourquoi vous n’avez pas l’air d’envisager de le faire revenir…

– Je ferai un point presse au moment d’annoncer l’équipe (le mercredi 1er février). Mon intérêt, c’est que l’équipe gagne, avec les critères qui sont les miens.

– On comprend mal pourquoi Santoro pourrait ne pas être retenu compte tenu de ses résultats. Quand Jacquet écarte Cantona de l’Euro 1996, il s’explique…

– Aujourd’hui, il y a une espèce de voyeurisme dans le sport qui consiste à savoir exactement le pourquoi du comment... Par le passé, j’ai donné des raisons qui étaient totalement légitimes. Je n’ai pas envie d’expliquer les détails de ces raisons-là.

– Qu’avez-vous pensé du match de Santoro contre Nalbandian ?

– Fabrice était de toute évidence diminué, physiquement. Il a fait un parcours extraordinaire, mais plus on avance, plus les marches sont hautes et grandes... » – D. B.


(*) 61 % des lecteurs ayant répondu à la question (sur un total de 45 600 votes exprimés) estiment que Forget ne peut pas se passer de Santoro contre l’Allemagne.

Marine
01-25-2006, 12:51 PM
L'Equipe:


OPEN D’AUSTRALIE (Grand Chelem, Rebound Ace)

Le parcours de Santoro à Melbourne ne modifiera pas forcément la donne pour le premier tour de Coupe Davis.

LE SAMEDI 11 FÉVRIER se disputera à Halle le double de la rencontre de Coupe Davis Allemagne-France. Vu la forme étincelante affichée à Melbourne par Tommy Haas et Nicolas Kiefer, l’équipe de Guy Forget a tout intérêt à grappiller ce point, comme elle l’avait fait en 2005 contre la Suède et la Russie. Face à la paire Waske-Haas, la tâche ne paraît pas impossible. À condition, évidemment, de former l’attelage adéquat. Pas simple, si l’on étudie le puzzle étalé aujourd’hui devant les yeux de Forget par les meilleurs joueurs français.

Le capitaine l’a confirmé à Melbourne : il compte aligner en Allemagne une équipe formée par trois joueurs de simple et un spécialiste du double. Échaudé par la mésaventure d’Alicante (demi-finale 2004 contre l’Espagne), où un Arnaud Clément hors de forme avait dû remplacer au pied levé Fabrice Santoro (blessé le vendredi face à Ferrero), Forget ne veut plus confiner deux de ses quatre joueurs à la quête de un point sur cinq. « Ça m’arrangerait de pouvoir sélectionner cinq gars, trois pour le simple et deux pour le double, explique-t-il. Je sais que ça a été évoqué à une époque, mais ça désavantageait trop les petites équipes. L’idéal, c’est ce que j’ai connu en 2001 : quatre joueurs capables de jouer à la fois le simple et le double. Mais ce n’est plus le cas aujourd’hui : ceux qui jouent le double sont plus ou moins inconstants et ceux qui sont très bien en simple ne sont pas les meilleurs en double. »


Remarquable quart-finaliste à Melbourne, Santoro ferait un postulant idéal à la double casquette… s’il n’avait lui-même précisé en novembre dernier, lors d’une longue conférence de presse donnée à Bercy, qu’il était avant tout candidat au double. « Je peux toujours dépanner en cas de coup dur, avait-il alors indiqué. Mais, pour les simples, je crois qu’il est temps de laisser les jeunes prendre leurs responsabilités. » Hier, il ajouta simplement : « Pour la Coupe Davis, on verra. J’ai fait un Open d’Australie de très haut niveau. J’ai montré de quoi je suis capable. J’attends de voir ce qui va se passer. » Séparés à l’intersaison après une formidable aventure (deux Grands Chelems et un Masters à leur actif), mais rarement alignés par Forget (trois fois, en 2002 et en 2003), Fabrice Santoro et Michaël Llodra se retrouvent donc aujourd’hui rivaux : à qui échoira le fauteuil de spécialiste ? L’un et l’autre possèdent de solides arguments… tout en étalant de grosses lacunes. Ce qui ne fait qu’accentuer le casse-tête de leur capitaine.

Ses performances australiennes le prouvent : Fabrice Santoro n’a jamais autant maîtrisé son sujet. En simple, il a rendu chèvres quatre adversaires réputés pour leur solidité (Spadea, Pavel, Gaudio, Ferrer) et il est sans nul doute l’un des meilleurs joueurs de double du monde (victoire au Masters, puis à Sydney, avec Zimonjic, juste avant l’Open). Mais il traîne derrière lui un lourd passif en Coupe Davis, qui tient bien moins à ses qualités intrinsèques qu’à son comportement en collectivité. « Le “cas Fabrice” n’est absolument pas lié à son niveau de jeu mais à d’autres critères, souligne Llodra. Pour qu’une équipe fonctionne, il faut qu’il y ait osmose. Or, avec Fab’, il y a des choses qui ne se sont pas très bien passées… Je n’en dirai pas plus parce que ça ne regarde que nous. En revanche, je peux vous dire qu’il règne une vraie harmonie dans l’équipe de jeunes qui s’est constituée l’an dernier. »

Sans jamais citer de nom, Forget vient implicitement en soutien : « Je fais ma sélection dans l’intérêt de l’équipe et selon mes propres critères, dit-il. Mon seul souci est d’aligner la meilleure équipe. J’ai besoin que s’instaure une confiance réciproque. »

En net retrait au niveau des résultats (demi-finaliste du double à Sydney avec Clément, battus par… Santoro-Zimonjic), Llodra bénéficie en revanche d’un triple atout : son jeu, ses résultats de la campagne 2005 (deux victoires en deux matches avec Clément) et son implication à l’entraînement. « Il ne manque pas grand-chose à Mika pour atteindre son meilleur niveau, estime Forget. Pendant la préparation, on va bouffer du double. Tout le monde va s’y coller, y compris moi-même ! Mais j’ai déjà au moins deux certitudes : 1. Je crois dur comme fer à l’association entre un “percutant” et un “régulier” ; 2. Je ne crois pas à l’association de deux gabarits moyens : face à des joueurs surpuissants, c’est trop dur de tenir cinq sets. » En l’absence prolongée d’Escudé, Llodra répond le mieux au profil recherché.

Favoris logiques pour le simple, Richard Gasquet ou Sébastien Grosjean (eux-mêmes de gabarit moyen) devraient être amenés à seconder le mystérieux spécialiste pour le double. Quitte à laisser leur place au quatrième larron (sans doute Mathieu) lors de la dernière journée. Dans l’hypothèse où Llodra décrocherait le pompon, le parcours héroïque de Santoro en Australie n’aurait alors servi à rien. Sauf à lui-même.


VINCENT COGNET


I'd like to now what's this f...problem with Fabrice ? People want to know and it's normal. The role of a captain is to explain why he doesn't choices a player.

I love Forget he's a great captain, but his way to stay secret makes me nervous, it's the same for the players.

silverwhite
01-25-2006, 01:42 PM
Looks like he won't choose Fab. :mad:

*julie*
01-25-2006, 11:32 PM
Favoris logiques pour le simple, Richard Gasquet ou Sébastien Grosjean (eux-mêmes de gabarit moyen) devraient être amenés à seconder le mystérieux spécialiste pour le double. Quitte à laisser leur place au quatrième larron (sans doute Mathieu) lors de la dernière journée. Dans l’hypothèse où Llodra décrocherait le pompon, le parcours héroïque de Santoro en Australie n’aurait alors servi à rien. Sauf à lui-même.


VINCENT COGNET


I'd like to now what's this f...problem with Fabrice ? People want to know and it's normal. The role of a captain is to explain why he doesn't choices a player.

I love Forget he's a great captain, but his way to stay secret makes me nervous, it's the same for the players.

:eek: Unbelievable!!! After this great run at the AO, Fab won't be in the team... And I agree Marine... At least, he could give the reasons of not choosing Fab!!!


From what I have read, Forget would choose Seb and Richard for the simples on Friday, then, one of them will play the double with Lodra, and on Sunday, it will be Seb or Richard (it depends on who made the double the day before) and probably Paulo... I like Paulo a lot but that would be a bad idea imo to make him play the decisive match again :help:
I am getting more and more nervous now... :scared:

Btw, Thanks Marine for the article :yeah:

silverwhite
01-26-2006, 12:35 AM
Paulo playing the fifth rubber? :help: :tape: :o

esther
01-26-2006, 11:05 AM
Why would he use a singles player for doubles with Mika? Instead of Arnaud??

Thats so weird how hes so secretive about Santoro....must have been a big falling out between them??

*julie*
01-31-2006, 08:52 PM
So, that's official. The team will be: Grosjean, Gasquet, Llodra, Clément and Mathieu.

Thats so weird how hes so secretive about Santoro....must have been a big falling out between them??

Yes, a big falling out indeed. If you check this link http://www.fft.fr/cd2006/Allemagne-france/?id=1400g there is an interview of Forget. He says that he wanted Santoro back in the team but Santoro didn't want to withdraw from an exhibition and thus, couldn't start the practice with the others players of the team. :rolleyes: I wonder if they really want to reach the 2nd round with such an attitude! I am really disappointed by both Santoro and Forget. All this story is so childish. :mad:

silverwhite
01-31-2006, 11:57 PM
Precisely, Julie! They'll probably lose this tie, thanks to the 2 stubborn old men. :tape:

Marine
02-01-2006, 07:44 AM
L'Equipe

Du rêve au cauchemar


En deux jours, Fabrice Santoro est passé d’un immense bonheur à une profonde désillusion.


UNE SEMAINE après avoir connu l’une des plus grandes joies de sa carrière, Fabrice Santoro vit un véritable cauchemar depuis deux jours. Son quart de finale à l’Open d’Australie, au terme d’une si belle épopée, doit lui paraître bien loin. Il est environ 21 heures lundi quand, après une longue conversation téléphonique, Guy Forget lui signifie que son retour en Coupe Davis n’est plus à l’ordre du jour. Au lendemain de cet uppercut, le vétéran français se dit « sonné, dans les cordes… » « Je vais me défendre, laissez-moi un peu de temps, confie-t-il en début d’après-midi. Ça fait trop, je suis solide, mais c’est usant. J’étais tellement content… »

Après réflexion, Santoro réagit par un communiqué dans lequel il formule point par point sa défense sans jamais prononcer le nom de Guy Forget. Il y affirme s’être engagé auprès du capitaine « à être présent et compétitif pour le stage ». Avec une réserve : « Une exhibition (…) dans laquelle je suis engagé depuis un mois. À aucun moment, il n’est dit que cette exhibition est synonyme d’exclusion. À aucun moment, on ne m’a laissé entendre, contrairement à d’autres, que j’étais sélectionnable et que je ne devais prendre aucun engagement ce week-end-là… Lorsque je l’ai eu (Forget) au téléphone lundi soir, je n’avais aucune alternative, sa décision était prise… Non, je ne prends pas le capitaine pour un imbécile, je m’étonne simplement de sa décision… » Il conclut : « Aujourd’hui, je suis déçu et triste. »


« Je n’ai rien fait de mal »


Plus tard, au bout du fil, Santoro garde tout son calme malgré un portable qui chauffe depuis la matinée. Il développe : « Avant dimanche soir, je n’ai pas eu le moindre contact. Puis on me dit : “ Tu es pris. ” Qu’est-ce que je fais, moi ? J’appelle l’organisateur (de l’exhibition). Quand je lui dis que je ne suis pas sûr de pouvoir venir, il me dit : “ Vous ne vous rendez pas compte, il y a des quatre par trois dans la ville, je fais de la pub dans les journaux, vous venez de faire quart en Australie, les gens vous attendent autant que Nadal, les enfants sont excités. ” Je lui dis : “ Écoutez, je me suis engagé. Je serai là. ” J’ai toujours respecté mes engagements. Voilà. »

Pour y parvenir, le Toulonnais dit avoir déployé des trésors d’énergie. « Derrière, je mets tout en œuvre pour quitter le stage pendant un minimum de temps. J’arrive deux jours avant à Paris, je prévois d’être là dès le jeudi jusqu’au samedi ; je déjeune avec l’équipe et à 15 heures je m’en vais, et je rentre à minuit. Je rate un massage et un dîner. » De ce point de vue, pas de quoi fouetter un chat et tout pour satisfaire Jean-Claude Knaebel, le directeur des Petits As : « On a eu la chance que Fabrice brille en Australie, ce qui a renforcé l’affiche, dit-il. Je ne peux que me féliciter de sa décision. Je tenais absolument à cette rencontre et ça m’aurait posé de gros problèmes d’avoir un autre joueur quatre jours avant. J’ai vendu du Nadal-Santoro, pas du Nadal-X. » Forget a pourtant minimisé les conséquences d’un forfait de dernière minute hier. « Je ne suis pas trop d’accord. Je suis surpris de cette réaction de Guy, qui ne m’a pas appelé. »

Santoro sera donc à Tarbes samedi soir. « Et pas pour une question d’argent, précise-t-il. Tout le monde sait que l’argent qui circule en Coupe Davis, c’est trois, quatre fois plus, voire plus. Ce n’est pas une opération lucrative, c’est juste de la correction vis-à-vis de quelqu’un qui s’est mis minable et qui œuvre pour le tennis français, pour des jeunes qui représentent l’avenir. Encore une fois, jouer deux heures avec le numéro 2 mondial et s’absenter en ratant un dîner, ce n’est pas une faute, je suis désolé. Je suis en accord avec moi-même, je n’ai rien fait de mal, franchement. Mais quand tu veux taper sur quelqu’un, tu peux toujours… Voilà, c’est facile… très facile… » Et le rêve devient cauchemar.


ROMAIN LEFEBVRE

After that I think Forget doesn't make any effort, he's capricious. Everybody knows Seb didn't always give good reasons for his absences and Forget seems to forget it. I'm objective he's not logical.

silverwhite
02-01-2006, 08:51 AM
:speakles:

Kezzi
02-01-2006, 01:35 PM
:woohoo: Clemént & Grosjean & Llodra will be there :bounce:

delsa
02-01-2006, 06:40 PM
From what i understand, Forget feels (or pretends he feels) as if when he was ready to give Santoro a chance again and was actually even excited and enthusiastic at the idea of captaining him again, Fab refusing to go in training camp on time like the others but just after he'd be finished with this exhibition tournament in Tarbes he has commited to one month ago ...*breathe*... ruined everything suddenly...

And now he said he can't accept this and he's stubborn and he says he prefers staying on the best moments and the best DC memories he has with Fab as a partner and as a coach and not ruin this as well, so he thinks that's better to end the story there...:o :rolleyes:

Then, you've got Santoro who says that he's got a clear conscience, that he's not doing anything wrong because it's not for the money (DC brings a lot more...) but for someone who worked his heart out to organize this with Rafa Nadal, children dreaming of this since a long time, young players of the very well-known there 'Tournoi International Junior des Petits As' etc...and that it is ludicrous to refuse him a selection for that because what he would miss apparently would be only a dinner with the team or something... :eek: :rolleyes:

(source: Infosport yesterday, plus the articles posted here)

You're in big sh*t guys! :help:
Good luck! What an atmosphere to be preparing this tie, trying to keep the team spirit alive and everything!...
They're not really mad at each other, just both pretending the other one is behaving in a childlich manner and they think that's sad and everything (and Santoro is right...)...

I can't help having the feeling that Forget is the stupidest one there, jumping on this occasion to have a reason not to select Fab when he obviously deserved his place because of his recent results, his experience and his unconventional game which is always an asset anyway so he was trapped, he had to select him and this gives him a (very tenuous...ridiculous) reason to push him out...I hope i'm wrong though. We'll never know what happened between them when they stopped having their old excellent relationship anyway...Why do Forget "hate" Fab so much? What happened then?

But well, it add some spice! You should take it like that...
Germany-Russia next round, huh? (kidding! almost not...)

Marine
02-01-2006, 06:46 PM
Anyway Germany is the favorite, with santoro or wihout him.
In single they have best players. :sad:

Truc
02-01-2006, 07:05 PM
Don't be so pessimistic! I'm French, but I live in Germany, so I see all the DC ties of the German team and Germany usually sucks big time in Davis Cup!!
I don't know exactly why (Kühnen seems pretty lame to me, there are some rivalries in the German team too...) – anyway, they always struggle horribly against very average teams (Belarus on clay, South Africa, Czech Rep. with Zib as a single player...), it's painful to watch!
I know Kiefer and Haas are playing much better now than last year, but they always manage to have troubles against teams which are supposed to be much weaker, so I think this tie will be pretty even.
C'est loin d'être perdu d'avance, allez! :angel:

Via
02-01-2006, 09:22 PM
truc is right, don't defeat yourselves before the opposition does. germany has had kiefer and haas for like 10 years now, and where have they got them to in davis cup? :rolleyes:

put the santoro factor behind and focus on the people you now have in the team. give them your support!

*julie*
02-01-2006, 09:47 PM
Here is my support: :help:
:lol:

lizabeth..*
02-02-2006, 09:48 AM
So, that's official. The team will be: Grosjean, Gasquet, Llodra, Clément and Mathieu.

Hello strangers! :wavey:

Are you sure Paulo is playing? There was an article in the paper today....or was it yesterday? I can't remember...anyway it was talking about how all these players were pulling out of DC at the moment and it mentioned Paulo wasn't playing? But then again they were also mentioning Serra...so I doubt the validity....but hopefully Paulo is playing! :)

Pointless post I guess...but it's been so long since I've been here.

Marine
02-02-2006, 05:00 PM
OMG you're alive ????? That's fantastic !!!!!!!!! :aparty:

lizabeth..*
02-02-2006, 11:21 PM
OMG you're alive ????? That's fantastic !!!!!!!!! :aparty:

:woohoo:

Yes I am!! I was in the middle of writing you a big email last night Marine and my computer went crazy and closed the page :mad: I'm sick at the moment so I have some time at home...

~EMiLiTA~
02-03-2006, 09:59 AM
Hello strangers! :wavey:

Are you sure Paulo is playing? There was an article in the paper today....or was it yesterday? I can't remember...anyway it was talking about how all these players were pulling out of DC at the moment and it mentioned Paulo wasn't playing? But then again they were also mentioning Serra...so I doubt the validity....but hopefully Paulo is playing! :)

Pointless post I guess...but it's been so long since I've been here.

apparently, Paulo is going as the substitute/sparring??? that's what my friend who is a french sports journalist told me... :shrug:

Via
02-04-2006, 10:22 PM
liz??!! :wavey:

now i know why i post so much... i'm sick all the time lol

is anyone actually GOING to the tie in germany?

*julie*
02-05-2006, 12:12 AM
Hi Liz :wavey:

liz??!! :wavey:

now i know why i post so much... i'm sick all the time lol

is anyone actually GOING to the tie in germany?

I won't see the matches because I am not in France at the moment :crying2: I don't even remember last time I missed a DC match. It was so long ago...Actually, when I was still a child. :rolleyes:

*julie*
02-05-2006, 12:38 AM
And the story Santoro/Forget goes on :rolleyes:

Santoro accuse Forget

Fabrice Santoro en larmes. (L'Equipe)

Fabrice Santoro, non retenu en équipe de France pour affronter l'Allemagne en Coupe Davis, du 10 au 12 février, a estimé, samedi à Tarbes, que «son honneur et son patriotisme ont été remis en question» par le capitaine Guy Forget. «Aujourd'hui, il met en cause mon patriotisme et mon rapport à l'argent», a affirmé Santoro présent à Tarbes pour un match-exhibition contre l'Espagnol Rafael Nadal, en marge du tournoi des Petits As.

«Il est inacceptable de parler de refus de sélection, car cela n'a jamais été le sujet de nos conversations. Bien au contraire, je lui ai fait part de ma motivation à l'idée de relever ce défi, a-t-il poursuivi. Alors, m'entendre dire que j'ai préféré 20.000 euros à la Coupe Davis, c'est insultant.»

Pour Santoro, «il n'y avait aucune incompatibilité de calendrier» puisque sept jours séparent «le match avec Nadal du double en Coupe Davis. La condition Coupe Davis ou match contre le numéro 2 mondial n'a jamais été posée par le capitaine.»
«Est-ce que ma sélection a été une seule seconde envisagée avant mon quart de finale à l'Open d'Australie ?», s'est-il interrogé avant de révéler qu'il «semblerait que l'objectif du capitaine ne soit plus d'ordre sportif mais personnel».

En larmes
«Après m'avoir sévèrement écarté, pourquoi s'attaquer à mon image. Systématiquement après de bons résultats, il semble chercher à me descendre. Ce n'est peut-être pas par hasard si c'est après le meilleur résultat de ma carrière, il porte le coup le plus violent», a souligné le joueur avant de fondre en larmes devant les journalistes. Insistant sur sa volonté de porter les couleurs tricolores, Fabrice Santoro a rappelé qu'il avait «toujours répondu présent aux JO de 1992, 2000 et 2004».

Concernant la Coupe Davis, le joueur âgé de 33 ans a rappelé qu'en novembre il avait exprimé son souhait de rejouer et «d'aider les jeunes». «Durant ces dix jours, j'avais l'occasion de faire coup double», a-t-il estimé.

«Le week-end prochain, je serai devant ma télévision pour encourager l'équipe de France et je lui souhaite bonne chance», a conclu Santoro avant de s'isoler avec sa mère et de continuer à pleurer.


Translation:

Fabrice Santoro, who had not been chosen for the DC match against Germany, from the 10th to 12th february, said on saturday in Tarbes, that "His honor and patriotism have been called into question" by Guy Forget, the captain. "He blames my patriotism and my regard to money" , said Santoro, in Tarbes after an exhibition match agaisnt Nadal.

"I can't accept to hear him say that I refused this selection. I have never said that in our discussions. On the contrary, I told him about my motivation to take up such a challenge. Then, hearing that I prefered 20000 euros rather than the DC selection, that's insulting."

For Santoro, "there wasn't any incompatibility with the schedule, because there are 7 days between the match against Nadal and the DC double. I haven't been asked to choose between the DC and the match against Nadal by the captain." He asks: "Did he consider to select me in the team before my quarterfinal at the AO? It seems his purpose is more personnal than sportive".

In tears
"After having severly rejecting me from the team, he attacks my image. Systematically after good results, he wants to jump down myself's throat. It may be not a coincidence that this happens after the best results of my career." said Santoro before falling into sobbs in front of the journalist. He insists on his willingness to play for his country and recalls that he has"always been present for the Olympic Games in 1992, 2000 and 2004."

Regarding the Davis Cup, the 33 years old player recalls that in November, he had formulated his desire to play the DC and to "help the youngsters".
"Next week-end, I'll be in front of my tv to cheer the team, and I wish them good luck" said Santoro before isolating himself with his mother and getting on crying.



I feel very sad for him. He seems to be really affected by his non-selection.
And I am pretty convinced that Forget didn't give the real reason why Santoro is not in the team. :mad:

Let's wait for Forget's next reply :rolleyes:

Btw, on the link http://www.lequipe.com/Tennis/20060204_215416Dev.html there is a photo of the press conference (but I couldn't post it here...I don't know why :confused: ) and Fabrice looks very very sad on it :sad:

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 06:17 AM
Let's wait for Forget's next reply :rolleyes:


Does he even have one? :rolleyes:

InfiniteSadness
02-05-2006, 12:33 PM
Well, I'd be inclined to support Santoro... I really think Forget made a mistake with his non-selection (and all the fuss about it won't help for sure the French Davis Cup team...). In my opinion, Santoro really deserved his selection.

We, I'm very sorry and sad for him. :sad:

(and IMO, Gasquet didn't have to express himself about it...)

Marine
02-05-2006, 12:33 PM
Unfortunatly I agree at 100 % with Santoro.
I'eve always been loving Forget as a captain, I've always been thinking he's a good guy, prefect in his role etc...but I'm very disapointed by the way he hates Santoro. I think he doesn't select him for sport reaisons, only for personal reasons. He found a poor excuse to exclude him of the team. Moreoverhe accused him of prefering money etc..and I'm sure it's false, Fabrice is one of the most patriotic players, he loves this competition, no doubt about that.

Marine
02-05-2006, 04:37 PM
yahoo
"Forget est soutenu"

Les joueurs de l'équipe de France se sont déclarés solidaires dimanche avec la décision de leur capitaine Guy Forget d'écarter Fabrice Santoro pour la rencontre face à l'Allemagne le week-end prochain à Halle. Les larmes de Santoro samedi n'y auront rien changé. Quelques heures avant son départ outre-Rhin, le groupe France a fait front commun lors d'un point-presse à Roland-Garros pour défendre son capitaine dans la polémique qui l'oppose au quart de finaliste de l'Open d'Australie. « Fabrice a déconné », a estimé Michaël Llodra , qui fut le partenaire de double de Santoro sur le circuit jusqu'à l'année dernière.

« Je suis peut-être celui qui est le plus proche de lui, c'est un mec super, on a vécu des choses fabuleuses ensemble, mais là il faut dire ce qui est : il a déconné. Et s'il y en a bien un qui ne doit pas déconner, c'est bien lui », a insisté Llodra, en référence aux problèmes qui avaient déjà opposé Santoro aux autres joueurs de l'équipe dans le passé.

Sébastien Grosjean s'est dit déçu par l'attitude de Fabrice Santoro. "Moi, j'ai ma femme qui va accoucher dans trois semaines. J'aurais préféré être auprès d'elle en Floride mais je suis venu au rassemblement. Apparemment, il avait vraiment envie de revenir en équipe de France. C'est dommageable. C'est lui qui se met dans cette situation."

Remplaçant de Santoro, Arnaud Clément a affirmé : « Je ne comprends même pas pourquoi Guy (Forget) est en train de se justifier. Ce n'est pas entre Fabrice et Guy, mais entre Fabrice et toute l'équipe. Personne ici n'aurait fait ce qu'il a fait .» :smash:
"Si un joueur n'arrive pas à se désengager d'une exhibition, je ne comprends pas. Un stage de Coupe Davis est un million de fois plus important. Il faut savoir de quoi on parle", a conclu Arnaud Clément.

noooooooo I don't agree. Arnaud is glad, thanks to Fabrice's decision he will play. When Seb decided not to play 2 years ago, he didn't say nothing, and I think it was much worse.

(incredible, I'm contradicting my 2 favorites players...)

InfiniteSadness
02-05-2006, 05:32 PM
« Je ne comprends même pas pourquoi Guy (Forget) est en train de se justifier. Ce n'est pas entre Fabrice et Guy, mais entre Fabrice et toute l'équipe. Personne ici n'aurait fait ce qu'il a fait .»
"Si un joueur n'arrive pas à se désengager d'une exhibition, je ne comprends pas. Un stage de Coupe Davis est un million de fois plus important. Il faut savoir de quoi on parle",

:rolleyes: yeah sure...

I completely disagree, I don't think it is that easy to withdraw from an exhibition 5 days before it, especially when you are not informed that going there can exclude you from the team.
They all support their captain, great... Well, it's maybe better for the team like that and for the atmosphere inside it.

(on va se prendre une taule en Allemagne :tape: )

I♥PsY@Mus!c
02-05-2006, 06:48 PM
As I told in GM I have no respect to this Forget anymore, :armed: but as much as I hate him I want France to win more against Germany.

Watching that pic is really heartbroken,I hope Santoro will feel better. :sad:

Kezzi
02-05-2006, 07:23 PM
liz??!! :wavey:

now i know why i post so much... i'm sick all the time lol

is anyone actually GOING to the tie in germany?
Yes, I'm going :bounce:

*julie*
02-05-2006, 07:30 PM
:rolleyes: yeah sure...

I completely disagree, I don't think it is that easy to withdraw from exhibition 5 days before it, especially when you are not informed that going there can exclude you from the team.


(on va se prendre une taule en Allemagne :tape: )

Well, actually, on the official website of the fft, Forget in his audio interview said that he had phoned the director of the tournament, and there would have been no problem for Santoro to withdraw (He could have been replaced by Montfils :shrug: )

:rolleyes: Clément making comments about Santoro... :mad: He'd better thank Forget instead!!!

Anyway, here are some little videos:

http://sport.france3.fr/tout-le-sport/index-fr.php?date=2006/01/31&id_article=330

http://sport.france2.fr/stade2/index-fr.php?date=2006/02/5&id_article=242

Marine
02-05-2006, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the videos. You didn't see the end of the report but of course Chamoulaud defended Forget and said Fabrice was wrong ("there are rules...") :rolleyes:

Well, I'll try to forget santoro's tears (what a sad video) and cheer the team though.
But if they lose the double..aieeee :mad:

*julie*
02-05-2006, 07:51 PM
Thanks for the videos. You didn't see the end of the report but of course Chamoulaud defended Forget and said Fabrice was wrong ("there are rules...") :rolleyes:


Oh thanks for that. It's not surprising coming from Chamouleau. :rolleyes:

I laughed when I read the coments of Gasquet about Santoro commiting to the exib match "il a commis une petite faute". He just wants to support the captain but at the same time, he tries to be diplomatic towards Fab... :lol:


Well, I'll try to forget santoro's tears (what a sad video) and cheer the team though.
But if they lose the double..aieeee :mad:

I prefer not to think about it now... but yes! Clément is going to have some extra pressure for the double after all this.

Marine
02-05-2006, 08:02 PM
I laughed when I read the coments of Gasquet about Santoro commiting to the exib match "il a commis une petite faute". He just wants to support the captain but at the same time, he tries to be diplomatic towards Fab... :lol:





Yes I think arnaud was more virulent than seb and richard. But I'm not surprised it seems arnaud has not been in good terms with fabrice since the last events. Seb was at fabrice's 1/4 in Melbourne, tv showed him with amelie (and guy lol) cheering for fabrice.

*julie*
02-05-2006, 08:06 PM
Yes I think arnaud was more virulent than seb and richard. But I'm not surprised it seems arnaud has not been in good terms with fabrice since the last events. Seb was at fabrice's 1/4 in Melbourne, tv showed him with amelie (and guy lol) cheering for fabrice.

Yes, I saw that. I was like "oh, that's good to see all of them supporting Fab. It seems a good atmosphere is back in the group...etc :angel: "
:banghead:

And besides all this, Haas has just won a new title. Things couldn't have been better. :tape:

Via
02-05-2006, 11:01 PM
:rolleyes: fabrice may have a good reason to be upset but he isn't going to let people forget him and move on so easily, is he?

but that's what they'll have to do in order to focus on the tie instead of who they have missed out. arnaud will have to play his best if he's selected for the doubles... with or without this controversy.

... kezzi, have fun in germany :wavey:

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 11:07 PM
I laughed when I read the coments of Gasquet about Santoro commiting to the exib match "il a commis une petite faute". He just wants to support the captain but at the same time, he tries to be diplomatic towards Fab... :lol:

I prefer not to think about it now... but yes! Clément is going to have some extra pressure for the double after all this.


I knew it. He made those comments to please Forget. :rolleyes:

Yep, and if they lose the doubles... :tape:

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 11:08 PM
Yes, I saw that. I was like "oh, that's good to see all of them supporting Fab. It seems a good atmosphere is back in the group...etc :angel: "
:banghead:

And besides all this, Haas has just won a new title. Things couldn't have been better. :tape:

I'm going to bet all my vCash on Germany. :rolleyes:

*julie*
02-05-2006, 11:08 PM
:rolleyes: fabrice may have a good reason to be upset but he isn't going to let people forget him and move on so easily, is he?

but that's what they'll have to do in order to focus on the tie instead of who they have missed out. arnaud will have to play his best if he's selected for the doubles... with or without this controversy.

... kezzi, have fun in germany :wavey:

Yes, lets hope they will focus on their match and fight hard. :)

Interview of Forget from the day he announced the team (on the 31st january)

Guy Forget : ''L’Allemagne est favorite''

Pour affronter des Allemands en plein renouveau, à Halle, le capitaine tricolore a retenu Arnaud Clément, Richard Gasquet, Sébastien Grosjean, Michaël Llodra et, comme cinquième joueur - remplaçant, Paul-Henri Mathieu. Même si, à ses yeux, l’Allemagne apparaît logiquement favorite de ce premier tour, avec les retours en force de Nicolas Kiefer et Tommy Haas, Guy Forget estime son équipe capable de s’imposer à l’extérieur.

Guy, quels joueurs avez-vous sélectionnés pour ce premier tour ?
J’ai sélectionné Sébastien Grosjean, Richard Gasquet, Arnaud Clément et Michaël Llodra, avec Paul-Henri Mathieu comme cinquième joueur. Mais Paul-Henri est un cinquième joueur qui a valeur de quatrième.

"Gasquet ? Tout peut vite rentrer dans l'ordre"

Pourquoi n’avez-vous pas retenu Fabrice Santoro ?
Je suis allé le voir jouer en Australie et sa qualité tennistique m’avait convaincu. Je pensais que le timing était bon pour le réintégrer dans le groupe, ce que je lui ai dit il y a quarante-huit heures (le 29 janvier dernier), en lui annonçant que je le sélectionnais dans l’équipe. C’était le moment de faire table rase du passé, des petites tensions qu’il avait pu y avoir entre Fabrice et ses copains, entre lui et moi. Mais il y a eu un problème à cause d’un engagement qu’il avait sur une exhibition samedi (le 4 février prochain, dans le cadre du tournoi des "Petits As"), alors que je réunis, dès ce jour-là, l’ensemble des joueurs à Roland-Garros, afin qu’on se retrouve sur le court, mais aussi en dehors. Quand on a des joueurs éparpillés au quatre coins de la planète, il n’est pas simple de les faire retravailler avec une logique d’esprit d’équipe. Le fait de se retrouver plus tôt que les autres équipes est un plus.

La relative méforme de Richard Gasquet ne vous inquiète-t-elle pas ?
J’aurais effectivement préféré qu’il soit demi-finaliste à l’Open d’Australie, c’est une certitude( :o ) ! Cette semaine, il est à Zagreb et je pense qu’avec quelques victoires, tout peut vite rentrer dans l’ordre. Physiquement, il a fait une bonne préparation cet hiver et il n’est pas mal du tout. Il manque un peu de confiance et quelques victoires lui feraient du bien. C’est pour ça que je lui ai demandé d’aller jouer à Zagreb et j’espère que ça va vraiment le stimuler.

"Les premiers tours sont toujours difficiles"

Concernant Gaël Monfils, pourquoi ne l’avez-vous pas sélectionné ?
C’était difficile, car Gaël de par son classement, de par ses résultats à Doha, méritait complètement d’être dans l’équipe. Maintenant, je n’ai pas été totalement convaincu par sa prestation à l’Open d’Australie. Je sais ce dont il est capable et j’attends vraiment une réaction de sa part. J’attends qu’il me montre son vrai visage dans les grands rendez-vous. Je sais qu’il peut le faire, qu’il en est capable. Il en a le talent et, j’en suis sûr, la volonté. Maintenant, les autres ont vraiment bien joué. S’ils n’avaient pas eu ces résultats-là à Melbourne, peut-être qu’effectivement, je l’aurais pris. Je suis sûr, comme il a du caractère, qu’il va avoir une réaction par rapport à ça. Et sur la prochaine rencontre, il peut très bien être titulaire en simple. Avec ces jeunes-là, qui sont en progrès constants, tout peut arriver.

Avez-vous l’impression que c’est le premier tour le plus difficile que vous ayez à jouer depuis longtemps ?
Non, les premiers tours sont toujours difficiles, car on n’est jamais à l’abri d’un match de relégation si ça se passe mal. On n’a pas le droit de perdre. En l’occurrence, là, sur le papier, on va dire que ce sont eux les favoris. On se retrouve donc dans une situation un peu différente de celle de l’année dernière. On avait une équipe qui était presque aussi forte face à nous mais on jouait à domicile. Paul-Henri Mathieu avait fait un week-end extraordinaire et on s’en était sorti, mais c’était un match très difficile aussi. Je ne pense donc pas que ce premier tour soit forcément plus délicat que celui de l’année dernière. Seulement, c’est vrai que les Allemands ont battu nos deux meilleurs joueurs à Melbourne (NDLR : Haas a battu Gasquet au premier tour et Kiefer a dominé Grosjean en quart de finale) et qu’aujourd’hui, ils sont mieux classés que nous. Clairement, à domicile, ce sont les favoris.

"On a un plan" (Really? Is it throwing a racket on Kiefer to make him got mad? :devil: )

On peut dire que les joueurs allemands reviennent en forme au mauvais moment…
Oui, exactement ! C’est le cas de le dire. Au moins, ça a eu le mérite de nous montrer quel était leur vrai niveau de jeu et de nous mettre en garde. Cela nous pousse à être prêts, à faire des efforts terribles pour justement arriver à jouer notre meilleur tennis et, pourquoi pas, les battre. Mais ce sera effectivement très, très difficile.

Les Allemands partent favoris sur le papier, mais la Coupe Davis est une épreuve à part. Comment allez-vous motiver vos joueurs ?
Les joueurs bien sûr sont motivés. Avec Patrice Hagelauer, on est allés à Melbourne, Rodolphe Gilbert y était aussi, pour justement observer les Français, mais aussi les joueurs allemands. On a noté un tas de petites choses les concernant, par rapport à leurs forces mais surtout les petites lacunes qu’ils peuvent avoir. Aujourd’hui, on sait dans quel sens on va aller. On a un plan, dont on va parler avec les joueurs, afin de surprendre Haas et Kiefer dans les moments importants. :devil: Ca va être difficile, mais les joueurs sont "méga" motivés. J’en suis convaincu, ils vont tout donner sur le terrain, que ce soit en simple ou en double. Mon équipe de double sera forcément différente aujourd’hui, mais je pense qu’on est plus forts que les Allemands sur le papier en double et je compte sur ce point. On va vivre une belle rencontre de Coupe Davis et tout le reste, tout ce qui s’est passé auparavant, toutes les petites anecdotes concernant Pierre, Paul ou Jacques, ce n’est pas intéressant. Ce qui est beau dans le sport, c’est le fait qu’on va jouer les Allemands. Et j’espère que demain, dans les journaux, je ne vais pas entendre parler une fois encore de la "problématique" Fabrice Santoro qui a très bien joué en Australie, mais plutôt du challenge de Richard Gasquet, de Sébastien Grosjean, de Michaël Llodra et des autres face aux joueurs allemands. C’est ça qui est intéressant. A la fin de la rencontre, si on a gagné, ce que j’espère, plus personne ne parlera du petit incident qu’on a pu avoir hier soir (lundi 30 janvier).


(Propos recueillis par le service information de la FFT)

If some of you want me to translate it, just ask ;)

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 11:13 PM
BTW, Paulo didn't comment? :o

*julie*
02-05-2006, 11:23 PM
He is only the 5th player. The journalists might have not asked him anything. :shrug:

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 11:24 PM
Cette semaine, il est à Zagreb et je pense qu’avec quelques victoires, tout peut vite rentrer dans l’ordre.

Unfortunately, he only got one. :o


C’est pour ça que je lui ai demandé d’aller jouer à Zagreb et j’espère que ça va vraiment le stimuler.

So that's why he requested a WC...


"On a un plan" (Really? Is is throwing a racket on Kiefer to make him got mad? )

:haha:

Apparently, Kiefer has been teasing his French grandmother about this tie. :rolleyes:


Mon équipe de double sera forcément différente aujourd’hui, mais je pense qu’on est plus forts que les Allemands sur le papier en double et je compte sur ce point.

They'd better win the doubles now...


On va vivre une belle rencontre de Coupe Davis et tout le reste, tout ce qui s’est passé auparavant, toutes les petites anecdotes concernant Pierre, Paul ou Jacques, ce n’est pas intéressant. Ce qui est beau dans le sport, c’est le fait qu’on va jouer les Allemands. Et j’espère que demain, dans les journaux, je ne vais pas entendre parler une fois encore de la "problématique" Fabrice Santoro qui a très bien joué en Australie, mais plutôt du challenge de Richard Gasquet, de Sébastien Grosjean, de Michaël Llodra et des autres face aux joueurs allemands. C’est ça qui est intéressant. A la fin de la rencontre, si on a gagné, ce que j’espère, plus personne ne parlera du petit incident qu’on a pu avoir hier soir (lundi 30 janvier).

His wish came true. :o

*julie*
02-05-2006, 11:28 PM
Unfortunately, he only got one. :o




So that's why he requested a WC...




:haha:

Apparently, Kiefer has been teasing his French grandmother about this tie. :rolleyes:




They'd better win the doubles now...




His wish came true. :o

I shouldn't laugh but... :haha:
That's a nervous laugh! :o

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 11:29 PM
Which comment are you laughing at? :scratch:

Can't wait for DC vBetting to be up...

*julie*
02-05-2006, 11:31 PM
Especially the 1st one and the last one. ;)

silverwhite
02-05-2006, 11:36 PM
I was just thinking. Maybe the "surprise" Forget was referring to would be replacing Seb/Richard with Paulo in the 4th/5th rubber. :haha:

*julie*
02-05-2006, 11:51 PM
I was just thinking. Maybe the "surprise" Forget was referring to would be replacing Seb/Richard with Paulo in the 4th/5th rubber. :haha:
:haha: It crossed my mind too. He makes a lot of comparisons with last year 1st round against Sweden, when Paulo won his 2 single matches (including the rubber).
I don't know what to think about that :rolleyes: True that Paulo won his 2 matches against Haas but the german is on fire at the moment.

:scared:

Kezzi
02-06-2006, 08:38 PM
:rolleyes: fabrice may have a good reason to be upset but he isn't going to let people forget him and move on so easily, is he?

but that's what they'll have to do in order to focus on the tie instead of who they have missed out. arnaud will have to play his best if he's selected for the doubles... with or without this controversy.

... kezzi, have fun in germany :wavey:
Thanks, I sure will. I'm really excited about my first DC visit ever and to my fav team :D . I really wanted to go when I heard that the French team were playing in Germany, it's like 4 hours away by train. But I think that's as close as I can get in couple of years, because a DC visit in Holland is really expensive in my opinion (I'm a student :lol: ).

Via
02-06-2006, 10:12 PM
:eek: 4 hours is a long way, i suppose train tickets aren't expensive comparatively...?

anyway, for a first round match, this should be a good one, with plenty of fire and sparks possible :lol:

Luisa
02-06-2006, 11:57 PM
you´re so lucky that you can go there.

I first thought i could go to halle as well...but no i write exams on friday and monday. :sad:

so i will spend my time in front of the tv.

wish you lots of fun in germany :clap2:

Marine
02-08-2006, 02:30 PM
(Je me permets de mettre tes photos Cécile, puisque tu en as déjà mis certaines ailleurs sur le forum...)

Arnaud, Seb, Richard and Micka (almost the whole team of davis cup) and Camille at Open gaz de france in Paris, cheering for the tenniswomen...

http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0191.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0196.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0197.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0223.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0225.gif


Wich player are they watching playing, they all look very concentrated !!!?? LOL

silverwhite
02-08-2006, 03:40 PM
According to Pariss, Francis Gasquet was seen watching Golovin's match and that match only! :tape:

Kezzi
02-08-2006, 08:26 PM
:eek: 4 hours is a long way, i suppose train tickets aren't expensive comparatively...?

anyway, for a first round match, this should be a good one, with plenty of fire and sparks possible :lol:
It takes also 4 hours to get from the south of Holland (Limburg, where I live :p ) all the way up to Groningen :lol: .
Nord-Rhein Westfalen is like our German neighbour, but by train we'll travel a much longer way than if we'd go by car, because it stops at lots of places. The faster trains (ICE, etc.) are a lot more expensive and it's still 3 hours, so I'd rather travel an hour longer for less money :p .

Kezzi
02-08-2006, 08:26 PM
you´re so lucky that you can go there.

I first thought i could go to halle as well...but no i write exams on friday and monday. :sad:

so i will spend my time in front of the tv.

wish you lots of fun in germany :clap2:
Thanks, I'm sure I will :D .

Marine
02-08-2006, 08:46 PM
Lucky girl, enjoy ur trip ! and cheer for the french team loudly they will need support to beat the Germans !

Via
02-08-2006, 10:23 PM
i need a map of europe lol

love those pics...:yeah: so the davis cup team all squashed themselves together inside a little passageway to watch golovin play... guess that's the kind of team spirit that fabrice couldn't handle :tape:

now i recall another pic some time back when they squeezed into the same chair...

*julie*
02-08-2006, 11:08 PM
According to Pariss, Francis Gasquet was seen watching Golovin's match and that match only! :tape:

There are rumours about Benhabilés (Golovin's coach since last november if I remember well) and her stopping to work together. It seems they don't get along with each other... Exactly what happened to Richard when he stopped being coached by Tarik and came back to train with his father.
So, is it a coincidence? :rolleyes:

*julie*
02-08-2006, 11:10 PM
Thanks, I'm sure I will :D .

Kezzi: I hope you will bring good luck to the french team. They will need it!

Have fun there! :)

InfiniteSadness
02-08-2006, 11:20 PM
There are rumours about Benhabilés (Golovin's coach since last november if I remember well) and her stopping to work together. It seems they don't get along with each other... Exactly what happened to Richard when he stopped being coached by Tarik and came back to train with his father.
So, is it a coincidence? :rolleyes:

Apparently, these were only rumours...

Here's an interview of Golovin which confirms this is not true:
http://www.opengazdefrance.com/accueil/story_192304.shtml

(BTW, I find her new hair color doesn't suit her at all :tape: )



Allez la France quand même, ça va être difficile... (même si je serais vraiment étonnée s'ils s'en sortent :tape: )

Via
02-08-2006, 11:25 PM
now i recall another pic some time back when they squeezed into the same chair...

here it is (and proof that fabrice couldn't handle it :p)

Anne-Claire
02-08-2006, 11:47 PM
(Je me permets de mettre tes photos Cécile, puisque tu en as déjà mis certaines ailleurs sur le forum...)

Arnaud, Seb, Richard and Micka (almost the whole team of davis cup) and Camille at Open gaz de france in Paris, cheering for the tenniswomen...

http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0191.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0196.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0197.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0223.gif
http://tennistory2004.free.fr/2006_ogf/ogf05_0225.gif


Wich player are they watching playing, they all look very concentrated !!!?? LOL


Here the little story, Actually they were "watching" Virginie Pichet... but in fact, they were only coming and going every 10 minutes... they were expecting the end of Virginie match which for us was lasted way too long (for them too I think...) Virginie was about to win the second set.. so the match, we all thought she would make it but now.... It went to a 3rd set tie break...and they all disappeared at the beginning of the 3rd set... Only arnaud and mika came back for Camille's match at 11pm!:)

*julie*
02-09-2006, 12:00 AM
Apparently, these were only rumours...

Here's an interview of Golovin which confirms this is not true:
http://www.opengazdefrance.com/accueil/story_192304.shtml

(BTW, I find her new hair color doesn't suit her at all :tape: )



Allez la France quand même, ça va être difficile... (même si je serais vraiment étonnée s'ils s'en sortent :tape: )

Thanks for correcting me then, Mag. ;)
:banghead: Me believing these stupid rumours!!!

here it is (and proof that fabrice couldn't handle it :p)

:lol: True that Fab doesn't seem to feel very comfortable in this pic...

silverwhite
02-09-2006, 12:55 AM
Allez la France quand même, ça va être difficile... (même si je serais vraiment étonnée s'ils s'en sortent :tape: )

I agree. :o

Kezzi
02-09-2006, 07:54 AM
Lucky girl, enjoy ur trip ! and cheer for the french team loudly they will need support to beat the Germans !
I'll post my pics if I'm able to make good ones. I looked on the website and we're sitting like three rows from the back all the way up :lol: .
So I really have to cheer loudly, but I'll make sure they hear me :) .

Kezzi
02-09-2006, 07:55 AM
i need a map of europe lol

love those pics...:yeah: so the davis cup team all squashed themselves together inside a little passageway to watch golovin play... guess that's the kind of team spirit that fabrice couldn't handle :tape:

now i recall another pic some time back when they squeezed into the same chair...
Can you still find that pic? I would love to see it :lol:

I already saw it a few posts after posting this message :p

Kezzi
02-09-2006, 07:58 AM
Kezzi: I hope you will bring good luck to the french team. They will need it!

Have fun there! :)
I hope I will too :) .

Thanks :hug:

Kezzi
02-09-2006, 08:01 AM
here it is (and proof that fabrice couldn't handle it :p)
:rolls: That's a really funny picture

Marine
02-09-2006, 02:39 PM
Pïctures of the draw ->
http://www.fft.fr/cd2006/Allemagne-France/?id=1322#

Marine
02-09-2006, 04:00 PM
Seb's interview in english ! http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=55275

I love his english, so easy to understand ! :lol:


Forget's interview
http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/audio/mp3/DC_5263_mp3.MP3

Via
02-09-2006, 10:21 PM
richard's english seems to have improved too.

people - you don't seem to know much about the french team spirit in recent years! let me show you another! lol

Via
02-09-2006, 10:27 PM
the fft pics are great, the flash gallery is fabulous but can't save photos :awww:

thanks marine :worship:

aliasthad
02-09-2006, 11:23 PM
You can save an image of the entire page by hitting CTRL, SHIFT and PRINT SCREEN, then use a graphics editor to trim the image to the part you want! ;)
(Hope that doesn't breach any copyright issues :confused: )

Marine
02-10-2006, 03:27 PM
1-0 FRANCE

Seb defeats jerkman 7/5 7/6 6/0 :devil: :woohoo:

He saved some set points in the first (and second ?) sets but was stronger on cricial points. I'm very happy he got his revenge. Kiefer behaved like a poor guy, especially in the tie break.

*julie*
02-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Bravo Seb :D
This 1st point was important!

Now, I hope Richard will play his best. Haas will have more pressure.

Allez Richard! :worship:

Anne-Claire
02-10-2006, 05:02 PM
Yep, well done Seb!

He played very well especially the important points!

Now there is 1 set all in the second match Richie/Haas!

Go Richie ;)

Can't wait to see the double tomorrow!!

Marine
02-10-2006, 05:02 PM
It seems journalists like Kiefer as much as me..I like this article :)

Grosjean garde ses nerfs et offre le premier point à la France

Dans une partie sous haute tension, Sébastien Grosjean a su garder ses nerfs pour battre Nicolas Kiefer 7-5, 7-6 (9/7), 6-0 et offrir le premier point à la France face à l'Allemagne au premier tour de la Coupe Davis de tennis, vendredi à Halle.

Le N.2 français a ainsi enlevé un peu de pression des épaules du jeune Richard Gasquet, qui devait affronter l'Allemand Tommy Haas dans la foulée.

Deux semaines après son élimination houleuse par le même Kiefer en quarts de finale de l'Open d'Australie, Grosjean a pris sa revanche dans un match une nouvelle fois électrique.

Regards revolver, tics agaçants, contestations permanentes: Kiefer a ressorti toute la panoplie de gesticulations qui fait sa mauvaise réputation sur le circuit. : lol: So true...

Dans le tie-break, sulfureux et crucial, du deuxième set, le 12e mondial a passé davantage de temps à discuter avec l'arbitre de chaise, nécessitant même l'intervention du superviseur, qu'à jouer au tennis.

Dans ces conditions et dans une atmosphère virant à l'hostile, Grosjean, 23e mondial, a eu le grand mérite de garder la tête froide. Il gardait pourtant une rancoeur envers Kiefer qui, en Australie, avait jeté sa raquette en direction du Français.

Mais Grosjean est resté stoïque dans les moments importants des deux manches initiales, défendant également deux balles de set dans la première.

Profitant ensuite de la dispersion et l'écoeurement de Kiefer, qui ne rentrait plus une balle dans le court, il a survolé le troisième set pour devenir le deuxième joueur cette année à battre l'Allemand, après Roger Federer.

delsa
02-10-2006, 07:07 PM
Séb and Kiwi used to be really friends and now they "only" keep good relations. you should all not forget that. Grosjean said on French tv that he was only angry at the umpire for the incident in Australia and not at Kiefer, and that it was not there that the match was lost but because Kiwi played better. But that he was happy to play against him again. I think Séb played a bit better today. ;)

Well done to both. The first two sets were great. I have nothing against Kiwi personnaly. I think it's good to have players with a strong personnality. The commentators here sujested that it may have been someone in the public who shouted out when Kiefer though he had heard the linesjudge...
Poor guys. Maybe they regreted to be German for a minute today because of all the things a furious Kiwi shouted at them...:lol:

I like Kiwi. ;)
But he could try to be calmer cuz' it doesn't do him good to be always confrontational as he is...
The Germans are still the huge favorites (well, Richard is serving for the match now...so France could go 2-0 erm...) and Kiefer will be even more motivated for his next match now...

Marine
02-10-2006, 07:35 PM
Incredible ! Richrad has won !!! In 5 sets !! wowwww :clap2: :woohoo:

Super Richard ! He played his best tennis and had a good mental I must admit I wouldn't have bet a centime on his win, ehhhe I'm happy I was wrong.

Encore bravo "ptit père Richard (dixit the commentator of sport+ ! lol)

2/0

Allez Arnaud et Micka :D :D :D

delsa
02-10-2006, 07:39 PM
Gasquet just won!?!!! :eek:
And in five sets on top of that!?!!!! :eek: *2
We were all fearing a chokejob when he wasted his first MPs and got brkoen back at 5-1...but he made it.

1-6, 6-4, 6-4, (1)6-7, 6-3!?!!! :eek:

France is now leading 2-0!?!!!! :eek: *3

Who would have believed it if someone had said yesterday that France would be ahead 2-0 after the first day of the DC tie against Germany in Germany????
Not me that's for sure.

Marine
02-10-2006, 07:41 PM
Are u happy at least ?

zimzim
02-10-2006, 07:42 PM
Am so proud of Grosjean and Richard especially...they were fantastic

delsa
02-10-2006, 07:44 PM
Are u happy at least ?
:lol: Ah...Marine. ;)

OUI!!! BIEN SÛR!!! :p

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a065.gif

Maybe we'll see Paulo play now? http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif

*julie*
02-10-2006, 07:59 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Anyone has seen it? I need a report of the Richard's match pleaaaaaaase.

*julie*
02-10-2006, 08:01 PM
:lol: Ah...Marine. ;)

OUI!!! BIEN SÛR!!! :p

http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/froehlich/a065.gif

Maybe we'll see Paulo play now? http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif

Delsa :mad:

Well, I hope Clément and Mika will do it tomorrow, cos now that Seb and Richie have both taken their revenge... Sunday would be difficult. :o

delsa
02-10-2006, 08:15 PM
:confused: How did you understand that?
How come you thought that deserved a furious smiley?

*julie*
02-10-2006, 08:26 PM
If Paulo plays on sunday that will mean that there is no "enjeu" but we are still at 2-0. I am a bit afraid of tomorrow's match. :scared:

Marine
02-10-2006, 08:30 PM
A funny article in l'Equipe today (just the first part) about Kiefer:

ON NE PEUT pas naturellement « kiffer » Kiefer sur un court. Quand il n’éructe pas, l’Allemand grommelle, défie, provoque ou toise, redimensionnant souvent le court à l’échelle d’un ring où s’instruirait une usante guerre des nerfs. Rocky n’est-il pas son film préféré ? Si l’adversaire discute d’un point litigieux avec l’arbitre, il ne se gênera pas pour venir pourrir les débats. Rien de très surprenant donc qu’à Wimbledon l’an dernier, Julien Benneteau ne lui résume l’estime générale de ses pairs après une franche poignée de main en fin de match. « On m’avait dit que t’étais un connard. Eh ben, t’es un vrai connard ! » :haha: Julien !!!!!

Avec Zidane, qu’il vénère en pratiquant acharné de foot, « Grosse Mutter » fait partie de son patrimoine hexagonal légué par Simone, sa mère. « Elle me dit toujours de tourner la langue sept fois dans la bouche avant de parler. Et elle a raison ! » À quatre-vingt-dix ans, trinquant au champagne à chaque succès de l’impétueux petit-fils, n’a-t-elle pas réussi l’impensable : calmer (un peu) Kiefer ?
:lol: Pauvre mamie, elle a eu le droit à l'eau cette fois-ci... ;)

delsa
02-10-2006, 08:40 PM
If Paulo plays on sunday that will mean that there is no "enjeu" but we are still at 2-0. I am a bit afraid of tomorrow's match. :scared:
Ahhhh...you feared a jinx...:o You're right.
But don't worry. I know this tie is far from over...:scared:

:lol: at the article Marine. I really like Kiefer even more now... :p
Would it be possible to see the whole article? :o

Marine
02-10-2006, 08:44 PM
:lol: at the article Marine. I really like Kiefer even more now... :p
Would it be possible to see the whole article? :o

Non car tu l'aimes bien justement :nerner:

delsa
02-10-2006, 08:52 PM
Thanks for the PM... ;)

*julie*
02-10-2006, 08:54 PM
Talking about Kiefer, Richard at the end of the match, did the gesture that Kiwi always does with his hand to celebrate (à l'éqyptienne) :lol:

Marine
02-10-2006, 08:55 PM
Pics of the matchs

http://www.daviscup.com/shared/medialibrary/image/gallery/DC_5385_gallery.JPG

Marine
02-10-2006, 08:57 PM
Talking about Kiefer, Richard at the end of the match, did the gesture that Kiwi always does with his hand to celebrate (à l'éqyptienne) :lol:

:confused: C'est à dire ? lol

Marine
02-10-2006, 09:02 PM
Richard Gasquet : "Il fallait un déclic, c'était l'occasion rêvée pour le produire. Guy (Forget) m'a énormément aidé. J'étais très crispé en début de match, vraiment pas bien. J'avais tellement envie de bien faire. Gagner le deuxième set m'a fait un bien fou, c'est une très grande victoire. Une des plus belles de ma carrière, face à Tommy Haas, en Allemagne, en cinq sets. Je savais que je jouais bien en ce moment, encore fallait-il le reproduire en match. L'ambiance a été très dure, je ne suis pas habitué à ça. Ce n'était pas facile à gérer, j'ai beaucoup regardé Guy qui m'a aidé à ce que je ne m'éparpille pas. Je suis très fier d'avoir réussi à gagner après le premier set que je fais."


Guy Forget : "Richard est en train de devenir un homme. Je suis fier de lui. De le voir battre Haas en cinq sets après la première manche qu'il fait, de revenir après avoir été si mal, me fait dire qu'il sera le meilleur joueur qu'on a eu en cinquante ans. Je l'ai aidé, c'est mon rôle, mais je pense que dans pas longtemps il n'aura besoin de personne pour reproduire ce genre de performances. Je n'aurais jamais pensé qu'on allait se retrouver à 2-0 à la fin de la première journée. Etre à égalité m'aurait déjà paru très bien."


Patrice Hagelauer : "Guy (Forget) leur parle souvent de l'ambiance des matches de Coupe Davis et de l'attitude qu'il faut avoir, de faire abstraction du contexte. A cet égard, Sébastien et Richard ont été fantastiques. Leur comportement est d'autant plus remarquable que Haas et Kiefer ne sont pas des joueurs faciles à jouer. Richard est moins fou fou qu'avant, il a pris son temps entre les points, va chercher sa serviette. Il m'a vraiment impressionné au cinquième set. Il sort d'un tie-break très mauvais, mais rebondit tout de suite derrière. Et cela dans un match de très haut niveau."

Marine
02-10-2006, 09:36 PM
"Je n'ai plus envie de retoucher la raquette du week-end"
De Richard Gasquet après sa victoire contre Tommy Haas.

:eek: ughhh

Via
02-10-2006, 09:57 PM
Well, I hope Clément and Mika will do it tomorrow, cos now that Seb and Richie have both taken their revenge... Sunday would be difficult. :o

very good point. if the two rubbers are still live on sunday, you bet now kiefer and haas are the ones feeling more motivated to take revenge. it would be very nice for france if they can take the doubles tomorrow. just make things so much easier lol

but even today's results are unbelievable.... i saw 0-2 on daviscup.com when i got up and thought 'who?' :haha:

ohhh and isn't that bagel the sweetest that seb has tasted for some time....

silverwhite
02-10-2006, 09:58 PM
I must admit I wouldn't have bet a centime on his win, ehhhe I'm happy I was wrong.


That's why I bet v$1000 against him. :haha:

silverwhite
02-10-2006, 09:58 PM
Maybe we'll see Paulo play now? http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif

That'd be great! :lol:

silverwhite
02-10-2006, 10:00 PM
Guy Forget : "Richard est en train de devenir un homme.

:rolls:

silverwhite
02-10-2006, 10:01 PM
"Je n'ai plus envie de retoucher la raquette du week-end"
De Richard Gasquet après sa victoire contre Tommy Haas.

:eek: ughhh

He sounds confident. :tape:

*julie*
02-10-2006, 10:09 PM
That's why I bet v$1000 against him. :haha:

I bet 100$ on Richie :nerner:

*julie*
02-10-2006, 10:10 PM
"Je n'ai plus envie de retoucher la raquette du week-end"
De Richard Gasquet après sa victoire contre Tommy Haas.

:eek: ughhh

He is crazy... he's gonna jinx them! :o

delsa
02-10-2006, 10:11 PM
He sounds confident. :tape:
Erm...Not really. That's rather a way of saying that he's really hoping that his partners will be able to win the tie for the team so that he won't need to play of the week-end any more... :o
You should listen to the audio this quote is taken from, SW... ;)
That's rather concerning actually. That means that he's wary of the "problems" they could have if they don't win the doubles tomorrow...:unsure: => That means he's not that confident on the contrary...uhoh... :o

Marine
02-10-2006, 10:18 PM
He's more confident in double's win than his own win sunday.

Via
02-10-2006, 10:40 PM
great to see such positive feelings and turnaround in sentiment. winners are grinners, as always... one can only hope for that one more win to seal it for a happy ending.

silverwhite
02-11-2006, 02:35 AM
Erm...Not really. That's rather a way of saying that he's really hoping that his partners will be able to win the tie for the team so that he won't need to play of the week-end any more... :o
You should listen to the audio this quote is taken from, SW... ;)
That's rather concerning actually. That means that he's wary of the "problems" they could have if they don't win the doubles tomorrow...:unsure: => That means he's not that confident on the contrary...uhoh... :o

No, I meant that he seems quite confident that the doubles team will win. :o

delsa
02-11-2006, 11:00 AM
Yep...If they don't finish it off today, they're fucked... :o

I can't see them win any of the singles now seing the atmosphere, the situation etc...

So Mica and Arnaud'd better win this!! :armed: :scared:

:rolleyes: I'm already imagining all the polemic about Forget not selecting Santoro in doubles if that happens...erm... http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif

Marine
02-11-2006, 11:32 AM
Yep...If they don't finish it off today, they're fucked... :o

I can't see them win any of the singles now seing the atmosphere, the situation etc...

So Mica and Arnaud'd better win this!! :armed: :scared:

:rolleyes: I'm already imagining all the polemic about Forget not selecting Santoro in doubles if that happens...erm... http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif

eeehhh you're more pessimistic than me !

silverwhite
02-11-2006, 12:18 PM
Delsa! My master when it comes to pessimism! :bowdown:

I have the same feeling though. The doubles is their best chance out of the 3 remaining rubbers and if they don't win this... :scared: And yes, Fabrice would have practically ensured that they won the doubles...

Marine
02-11-2006, 12:20 PM
Delsa! My master when it comes to pessimism! :bowdown:

I have the same feeling though. The doubles is their best chance out of the 3 remaining rubbers and if they don't win this... :scared: And yes, Fabrice would have practically ensured that they won the doubles...

ehhh don't be so hard with arnaud, okay fabrice would have deserved his place but the last time, it's arnaud who had been very good in the double, not micka. I think arnaud will be la clé of the victory :p

silverwhite
02-11-2006, 12:25 PM
ehhh don't be so hard with arnaud, okay fabrice would have deserved his place but the last time, it's arnaud who had been very good in the double, not micka. I think arnaud will be la clé of the victory :p

I'm a bit :scared: now about today's match although I would have been more confident if it was Fab playing. :p

*julie*
02-11-2006, 04:12 PM
:woohoo: It is saturday and they already qualified... Unbelievable!

BRAVO :yippee:

Next round : Russia :scared:

Well let's celebrate before thinking about that! :aparty: :drink: :drink: :drink:

I must say congrats to Forget as well. He was very criticized with the Santoro's story but he did a GREAT JOB on his chair with Richard and Seb!

Anne-Claire
02-11-2006, 05:17 PM
HI!


What a nice week end of Davis Cup!

Congrats to all the guys of the French Team :) :)

Thanks to this victory, Guy won't have to justified his choice anymore and let's hope that the whole Fab story will stay a very bad moment for the team... if we had lost this tie... it would have been really tough for Guy!

One more thing, l'equipe de France a un p**** esprit d'equipe qui lui fait realiser des exploits... rien a voir avec lequipe allemande....

*julie*
02-11-2006, 05:33 PM
HI!

One more thing, l'equipe de France a un p**** esprit d'equipe qui lui fait realiser des exploits... rien a voir avec lequipe allemande....

Ben moi j'ai pas pu voir les matchs donc l'esprit d'équipe j'ai pas pu m'en rendre compte mais c'est vrai que c'est souvent une grande force de l'équipe.

I hope there won't be any controversies in the future, and that Seb will play the quarters this time.

delsa
02-11-2006, 07:51 PM
GRANDIOSE!!!! :bounce:
TONITRUANT!!! :bounce:
ESTOMACANT!!! :bounce:
ÉPOUSTOUFLANT!!! :bounce:
RENVERSANT!!! :bounce:

You see? My exageration of pessimism worked!!!!! :p

Will we get to see Paulo play a fifth rubber now, Silverwhite? http://www.cheesebuerger.de/images/midi/frech/a040.gif

What an upset!!! :eek: Who would have believed it before it started that if a team was to win this tie 3-0 it would have been France?...Not me at least...

Congrats to the Germans for the way they fought till the end though...There were very very beautiful matches here and they were responsible for a good part of that. :worship:

Now, Russia next for them...again...:scared:
They have some kind of inferiority complex with this team...
And the so-called 'home advantage' never works for them in those case it seems...:rolleyes:

I must admit Forget behaved perfectly...:o
But still...
Santoro should have been there. :(

Like Julie said, hopefully Séb will be so kind to show up this time...:rolleyes:
I think he will. He's learned his lesson and the anger his behaviour provoked last year from the public will stay in his head i think...For exemple this time his wife was supposed to give birth in two weeks etc...and everything and he still came to do the job so...:shrug:

:worship: !!!BIEN JOUÉ L'ÉQUIPE DE FRANCE!!! :worship:

delsa
02-11-2006, 07:52 PM
In spite of the fuss in which all that started, you could feel the team spirit....;)

"Gardons cette flamme !"
De Guy Forget à propos de l'esprit d'équipe qui règne chez les Bleus.

Via
02-11-2006, 09:08 PM
congrats to the french team... who would have thought really? winning 3-0. the team certainly has more confidence than its fans ;)

and yeah, arnaud deserves a pat on the back. keeping focused on the job. since no one is giving him much credit, i will do it myself :clap2: :hug:

same goes to the rest of the team and the captain :)

Ome
02-12-2006, 03:31 AM
Congratulation the to all the players and Guy and the whole team :kiss: :banana:



*Paulo* :hug: :lol:

silverwhite
02-12-2006, 04:39 AM
*Paulo* :hug: :lol:

It would seriously be great to see him play the fifth rubber! :lol:

esther
02-12-2006, 09:19 AM
sorry i missed it- but yay!!! Nice to see Seb take his revenge :D

silverwhite
02-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Aww. Paulo didn't get to play. :awww:

Truc
02-12-2006, 01:26 PM
the team certainly has more confidence than its fans ;):lol: Yes, I don't read a lot in the forums of the French players, but I'm a little bit shocked by the general pessimism, especially in the Davis Cup! ;) Have more faith in the French team, they are GREAT! If you knew how much the Germans envy us for having such a team. The reactions in the German press today are so sad. But they give all credit to the French team.
That was a fantastic display of the Frenchies in Halle! :yeah:

silverwhite
02-12-2006, 02:53 PM
The Germans were so gracious today after Haas-Llodra. They congratulated France in French and wished them good luck against Russia. :D

delsa
02-12-2006, 06:14 PM
Germans are the nicest. :D

:worship:

It's good and completely deserved that the final score is 3-2 because of how the German players fought to make this a fantastic tie with wonderful tennis. ;)

Thanks for the info Silverwhite. It was not televised (not on terrestrial tv at least...) here.

The last article from daviscup.com:

12 Feb 2006 - Gerry Weber Stadium, Halle, GER - Chris Bowers - GER v FRA

France eyes quarterfinal as German pride restored

Germany salvaged some pride from a disappointing weekend by winning both the dead singles against France, but it’s the French who are busy making preparations for a home quarterfinal against Russia.

Wins for Schuettler and Haas

With Nicolas Kiefer announcing he was under medical instruction not to play because of an injury to his left foot he’s been carrying for the past five weeks, Rainer Schuettler came in for his first action of the weekend, and dispatched Arnaud Clement 64 63 in an entertaining match. Then Tommy Haas, who would probably have preferred a day off after playing 15 matches since the start of the year, opted to play so as not to sell the spectators short, and he beat Michael Llodra, 63 63, to make the final score 3-2 for the visitors.

Perhaps the biggest boon for the hosts was the crowd – at 7100 only 200 down on the total from Saturday. That added to the overall impression that Halle had been a successful Davis Cup by BNP Paribas venue, but Germany’s players will need to rise to the team occasion better than they have over the past four years if they’re to see many more World Group ties in the impressive Gerry Weber Stadium.

France looks ahead to Russia clash

The French had also stayed around, and there were enough French journalists to make an enormous din in the media restaurant when Antoine Dénériaz took the men’s downhill gold medal at the Winter Olympics with an unexpected late run. But France’s tennis players needed no late run to seal victory – that was achieved by Saturday evening, and there was no sense of false optimism when the travelling band of French supporters stuck four placards on the stadium wall: ‘1991’, ‘1996’, ‘2001’ and ‘2006?’ They clearly believe they have the team this year for a fourth title of the modern era.

France’s captain Guy Forget chose, as ever, to play down any attempt to look too far ahead. “The supporters like to dream,” he said, “and the Russians won’t be easy, even if they are away from home, particularly if Marat Safin returns to play.” But behind the caution, the wily Frenchman knows he has the makings of a side every bit as good as the team he steered to victory in Melbourne in 2001 and the one he was part of in the dramatic 1996 final that France won on a 10-8 fifth set.

The revelation of the weekend for the French was the return to form of Richard Gasquet. A gamble when selected, after losing three of his four matches before this weekend, the 19-year-old played a superb match to beat Tommy Haas on Friday, the result which broke the spine of the German challenge. If he can maintain that level of form and remain injury-free, then he will be a worthy French No 1, with Sébastien Grosjean providing valuable support. And by winning a match in which Clément didn’t play well, the doubles team of Clément and Llodra are likely to be a match for any pair.

Marine
02-12-2006, 06:29 PM
I'm back at home and I really don't know what to say about this amazing week-end for french sport...
I didn't saw the whole match yesterday, I just watched the 3 first sets and I was afraid by Arnaud who wasn't good in the beginning.
Well they won and it's the most important. Arnaud played well at the end so it's good.

This team is really magic. I know Fabrice has his place and I still wonder what's wrong between him and the other guys, I know I critized Forget but when I watch him cheering for his players on the chair, and making so beautiful speeches after the match (it reminds a famous speech of 2002...) I think he's just " GENIAL". I love his way of thinking, it's utopic as he says but it's good to hear (it's yannick noah's spirit).
Si maybe he's right not to select santoro...after all, I'm sure it's this famous spirit, this friendship which made them win so...

-> http://sport.france2.fr/stade2/index-fr.php?date=2006/02/12&id_article=245

"et on regarde le staff et vous me regardez moi, parce que moi j'ai la haine, moi j'vais vous la lifer l'envie de jouer !!!" :lol:


Forget's speech: http://sport.france2.fr/stade2/index-fr.php?date=2006/02/12&id_article=246
On a envie d'y croire, à son utopisme, non ? :angel:

*julie*
02-12-2006, 07:19 PM
"et on regarde le staff et vous me regardez moi, parce que moi j'ai la haine, moi j'vais vous la lifer l'envie de jouer !!!" :lol:


Non, ce n'est pas Bernard Laporte :lol:

Marine
02-12-2006, 07:24 PM
Non, ce n'est pas Bernard Laporte :lol:

Guy admited he loves rugby spirit, he had the chance to be in the bus of the french team before a match England / France (everybody knows which means this battle for any French lol) and it was absolutly amazing, this spirit. ;)

Via
02-12-2006, 11:58 PM
:lol: Yes, I don't read a lot in the forums of the French players, but I'm a little bit shocked by the general pessimism, especially in the Davis Cup! ;)
i suspect you didn't follow french media reports too closely! lol

But they give all credit to the French team.

that's nice :)

silverwhite
02-13-2006, 01:31 AM
I hear they're thinking of choosing a fast taraflax in Pau against Russia. :scared:

I would have thought that grass would be a wiser choice. :scratch:

InfiniteSadness
02-13-2006, 01:20 PM
I hear they're thinking of choosing a fast taraflax in Pau against Russia. :scared:

I would have thought that grass would be a wiser choice. :scratch:

I do think that grass would have been great too but the fact is that putting grass is very difficult and they don't have a lot of time for that (+ it will be in indoors so have you ever seen grass in indoors? :p)

And I heard that there is a rule which says that the country who receives the other team must choose a surface where some atp tournaments are played on it (I mean France has no tournament with grass as a surface)

I hope it makes sense. :)

Truc
02-13-2006, 03:59 PM
I do think that grass would have been great too but the fact is that putting grass is very difficult and they don't have a lot of time for that (+ it will be in indoors so have you ever seen grass in indoors? :p)Exactly. France has no decent grass court to host this kind of event. It was the same problem last year for the Fed Cup tie against Spain, grass would have been the better choice of course (directly after Wimbledon!) But they played on hardcourt since there was no grass court.
Anyway, I think it would be a problem to play on grass in the middle of April even for Seb and Richard. They need to adapt to the surface too. You must feel comfortable on the surface yourself.
I'm not sure the choice of the surface is very important against Russia. With some teams, it's obvious. But France and Russia can play on every surface.

silverwhite
02-13-2006, 03:59 PM
Ah, OK. Too bad then, because Davydenko and Safin can play indoors but don't play as well on grass. :(

silverwhite
02-13-2006, 04:00 PM
Exactly. There isn't any decent grass court in France for this kind of event. It was the same problem last year for the Fed Cup tie against Spain, grass would have been the better choice of course (directly after Wimbledon!)

I'm not sure the choice of the surface is very important against Russia. With some teams, it's obvious. But France and Russia can play on every surface.

Against Russia too! :help: They would have won Fed Cup if they were able to play on grass. :o

Like I said above, Davydenko and Safin feel much more comfortable indoors than on grass. :p

Kezzi
02-13-2006, 07:06 PM
:lol: Yes, I don't read a lot in the forums of the French players, but I'm a little bit shocked by the general pessimism, especially in the Davis Cup! ;) Have more faith in the French team, they are GREAT! If you knew how much the Germans envy us for having such a team. The reactions in the German press today are so sad. But they give all credit to the French team.
That was a fantastic display of the Frenchies in Halle! :yeah:
I also think there's nothing to be pessimistic about, France has a great team. I'm Dutch, but France is my fav DC team and I believed in their victory from the day I bought my tickets. It was really great to see them win and be there in the same stadium :D .

Saturday evening I talked to Layhani and he thinks that France is a great team and that they won because of their team spirit.

And I really think the Dutch envy France even more for having such a great team, I know I do, because our team has some team spirit, but it seems they just can't put it to good use :p .

Kezzi
02-13-2006, 07:11 PM
Germans are the nicest. :D

:worship:

It's good and completely deserved that the final score is 3-2 because of how the German players fought to make this a fantastic tie with wonderful tennis. ;)

Thanks for the info Silverwhite. It was not televised (not on terrestrial tv at least...) here.

The last article from daviscup.com:
That's really true, I talked to Haas, Kühnen and Waske after Saturdays match and they were really nice to the fans, even though they lost. Hasi even wished us a nice evening :D .

And I'm happy with that score too, it was great tennis to watch :D . It was really worth it to travel 4 hours by train ;) .

Kezzi
02-13-2006, 07:14 PM
I'll post some pics later. They are all blurry, because I had to use my maximum digital zoom so that I could identify the players on the pics :lol: . My sister and I were seated on row 13 and row 17 was all the way in the back :p . We had a good view, but on pics everything looks smaller than in real life :( .

Marine
02-13-2006, 07:16 PM
Saturday evening I talked to Layhani and he thinks that France is a great team and that they won because of their team spirit.



Mohamed Layhani ???? :eek:
I love this umpire, he took very good decisions (always at france's advantage). And he's very smiling. It's surprising he said that I didn't know umpires can give their opinions..eh bravo to him :yeah:

Marine
02-13-2006, 07:17 PM
I'll post some pics later. They are all blurry, because I had to use my maximum digital zoom so that I could identify the players on the pics :lol: . My sister and I were seated on row 13 and row 17 was all the way in the back :p . We had a good view, but on pics everything looks smaller than in real life :( .

I've always the same problem kezzi, but thanks for sharing ur pics (soon).
Did u talk to french players ?

Kezzi
02-13-2006, 07:48 PM
Mohamed Layhani ???? :eek:
I love this umpire, he took very good decisions (always at france's advantage). And he's very smiling. It's surprising he said that I didn't know umpires can give their opinions..eh bravo to him :yeah:
I don't know if they can give their opinions, but he didn't say Germany is a bad team. He just said he believes that France won, because they are such a great team, but that it would be more exciting for tennis itself to have a score of 2-1 on saturday.
I think umpires can give opinions about a certain event they work at, everyone has their own opinion, so why not an umpire? Im my opnion it's ok, as long as it doesn't affect his decisions while sitting on the chair. And I don't believe Layhani is affected by that, in my eyes he almost always makes the right decisions, he's a great umpire and really nice :worship:

Kezzi
02-13-2006, 08:02 PM
I've always the same problem kezzi, but thanks for sharing ur pics (soon).
Did u talk to french players ?
I usually don't have blurry pics from Rotterdam and Rosmalen, but that's because I always watch training and the matches on the smaller courts. Centre court is too big for a small girl like me :lol: I only go there when I really want to see a match, but my fav's usually don't play on centre in Holland when they don't have a Dutchie to play against :p .

Yeah, I talked to Arnaud and Llodra. That's a really funny story :p .
Like 1,5 hours later from when we've met Layhani (he came out after 15 min already) we were standing at the door to the press room with just 5 people waiting for Arnaud and Llodra. The other Frenchies except Forget left earlier and we didn't see Seb walking by. So I think Seb went to the hotel through the tunnel from the stadium to the hotel.
We weren't sure if Arnaud was still there, but then my sister and another girl spotted him in the back of the press room. I found out a door where I could see everyone who's walking through that tunnel and Arnaud was walking in that direction. I ran as fast as I could to that door, so that I could let Arnaud know there were fans waiting outside, my sister and the other 3 girls were still waiting by the pressroom.
At one point I heard my sister and another girl yelling 'Arnaud! Arnaud!', so I walked back and asked them what was going on and they told me the door opened and Arnaud was still in the back and he heard them. Like 10 minutes after he and Llodra came outside and took time for pics and autographs and a little chat with everyone that was there.
My sister and gave him a really nice picture of Bruno, which we took at the Arag World Team Cup 2005 and Arnaud told us he would make sure Bruno get's it :D . Normally we don't give them pics of theirselves or family, but it was just such a nice pic we really wanted Bruno to have a copy too. Too bad he wasn't there, it would be really cool if we could give it to him ourselves :) .

That's a quite a long story :p I'm still really bouncy from my first DC tie I've attended :bounce:

I also made some movies and pics from the French fanclub, they were sitting in the block right in front of us. Do you think I can just email that to them? Their website is www.aseft.com, right?

Marine
02-13-2006, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the report.

1991 – 1996 – 2001 – 2006 ???.. interesting this stats :)

(safin, davidenko, andreev, youzhny in 1/4... :rolleyes: )

Via
02-13-2006, 10:39 PM
ohhh you lucky girl kezzi..... you should post your arnaud report in arnaud's forum so that fans can freely express their jealousy ;)

how come stadium security is so relaxed everywhere except in sydney????? :p

thanks for all the stories, love them :worship:

regarding pessimism... got to point out that it's a lot easier to be optimistic after the fact, you know. but i'm sure you were so all the way!

Via
02-13-2006, 10:41 PM
(safin, davidenko, andreev, youzhny in 1/4... :rolleyes: )

there there there. again! :p

silverwhite
02-14-2006, 02:47 AM
Nothing wrong with being pessimistic. The less you expect, the greater the pleasure of being proven wrong. ;)

Great report, Kezzi. :D

InfiniteSadness
02-14-2006, 11:16 AM
Nothing wrong with being pessimistic. The less you expect, the greater the pleasure of being proven wrong. ;)


Exactly!!! :D

I'm like that too. :o

Kezzi
02-14-2006, 03:01 PM
ohhh you lucky girl kezzi..... you should post your arnaud report in arnaud's forum so that fans can freely express their jealousy ;)

how come stadium security is so relaxed everywhere except in sydney????? :p

thanks for all the stories, love them :worship:

regarding pessimism... got to point out that it's a lot easier to be optimistic after the fact, you know. but i'm sure you were so all the way!
I'll copy it to Arnauds forum later :p .

Pics will be up later today :D . I have a whole new camera, so first I have to install everything again on my computer :( .

And in Rotterdam the stadium security isn't that relaxed either, at court 1 it's easy to meet players, but the fans can't get near the player's on centre court after a match. You just hope for the 'big' players to go to training on the same day if you're only there one day.

Kezzi
02-14-2006, 03:10 PM
Exactly!!! :D

I'm like that too. :o
I'm not like that at all :p . I'm really optimistic about almost everything, sometimes I'm a little too optimistic, but so far that never worked out bad for me :) . But it isn't the kind of positive that I expect a lot, it's more like I really believe in what people can do, in this case the French DC team. A really weird explanation, but I hope you know what I mean :) .

But it's also true that the pleasure is bigger when you don't expect a lot. I usually don't expect a lot from my exams when I haven't studied very well and then I'm really happy when I get a good grade back :lol: .

*julie*
03-03-2006, 03:59 AM
I can't wait to read this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v610/lili979/n_361.jpg

There will be an interview of Santoro as well. Maybe we will learn more about all the Forget/Santoro story...

Marine
03-03-2006, 06:12 PM
I can't wait neither !!! Did anyone read it ? I'll buy it tomorrow I think...

Marine
03-07-2006, 07:45 PM
I reaf the interview and he doesn't say anything about the real problem that's really boring this situation -as Tennis mag said it to santoro, the suporters would like to know !"...

Via
03-07-2006, 09:33 PM
they don't feel a need to explain as long as they win. we'll see next time... there should be more pressure!

thanks for another delightful team pic... doesn't that richard have great reach, even off court :lol:

Kezzi
03-08-2006, 07:06 PM
I'm sorry my pics aren't online yet. I get the idea my computer doesn't want them to be online :fiery: Sometimes I feel the need to throw the stupid thing through the window, but then I realise it's actually my dad's and he wouldn't be pleased with that :p .
I'm working on it now, I hope I can get some pics online tonight :) .

edit: :woohoo: without kicking my computer I got 1 picture online :p . hopefully more tomorrow :D .
http://images.kodakgallery.eu.com/photos147/9/38/68/42/39/0/39426838933_0_ALB.jpg

Via
03-10-2006, 10:13 PM
any more? ;)

Kezzi
03-11-2006, 03:47 PM
Yeah, I have the rest of day 1 and 2 here (http://www.kodakgallery.nl/Slideshow.jsp?Uc=vcgmx6x.mpfgp05&Uy=eyvemz&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0&localeid=nl_NL&mode=fromshare&conn_speed=1)
Day 3 coming soon ;) .
I don't have pictures from the second matches on Friday and Sunday. Friday we were too tired from travelling to watch more than 4 games of the second match and Sunday we had to leave pretty early, because we had to catch a train home :) .

silverwhite
03-11-2006, 05:07 PM
I don't have pictures from the second matches on Friday and Sunday. Friday we were too tired from travelling to watch more than 4 games of the second match and Sunday we had to leave pretty early, because we had to catch a train home :) .

But it was such a good match :eek:

Kezzi
03-11-2006, 08:04 PM
I know. When I read a little about it in the German newspaper I wished we watched it a little longer. We decided to go home, because the start wasn't very interesting. But on the other hand I was really happy to see a bed after 5 hours( 3.5 hours to get to Bielefeld and 1 hour in total to travel to the stadium and back) of travelling by train and carrying a large bag through town to the youth hostel.

*julie*
03-12-2006, 09:00 PM
Thanks for the pics Kezzi :yeah:

:mad: I still can find the new Tennis Mag here in Montreal!