What happened to Guillermo´s serve?

09-07-2005, 09:20 PM
It is a disgrace.

What happened to his supposedly improved serve?

Is he injured?

09-07-2005, 09:22 PM
He really choked away that 3rd set, too bad, now Ginepri will rolled!

federer express
09-07-2005, 09:24 PM
It is a disgrace.

What happened to his supposedly improved serve?

Is he injured?

sadly am on call and at work so cant watch the match, but am watching the scores.
he has more chance of winning ginepri's service games personally i think guille can serve well and aggressively. just as he can play attacking tennis. but i think the main problem with his serve is his approach and attitude. he is too negative with it at times and doesn't believe in his ability to set up points with it.

this is all in general, as i cant watch the match now :mad:

09-07-2005, 09:25 PM
Total choke job by Coria :sad:

09-07-2005, 09:25 PM
his serve is terrible. most of the juniors have better serves than that

09-07-2005, 09:26 PM
he dfaulted like one of those russian female players

09-07-2005, 09:26 PM
He has more DFs over the 1st 3 sets played than Elena Dementieva :o

09-07-2005, 09:29 PM
the commentators said he has some problems with his right hand...

09-07-2005, 09:30 PM
the commentators said he has some problems with his right hand...

His left hip according to JMac and Courier.

Ginepri's right index finger was wrapped and needed trainer earlier.

09-07-2005, 09:52 PM
It is a disgrace.

What happened to his supposedly improved serve?

Is he injured?
"disgrace" is just way too harsh . . . instead of attacking him, wonder what is wrong. Never seen him struggle with his serve like this . . . struggled from the first match on here and is still winning. That's pretty remarkable . . .

Gotta hope that his shoulder is okay . . .

09-07-2005, 09:55 PM
his serve has greatly improved in the 4th :shrug:

09-07-2005, 10:37 PM

09-07-2005, 10:56 PM
his serve has greatly improved in the 4th :shrug:

and it was impressive in the 5th too :lol:

his serve lost that match ..he was outplayin ginepri from the baseline ..

09-07-2005, 10:59 PM
damnnn, how can you finish your match with 2 consecutives dfaults????

09-07-2005, 11:05 PM
f**k his &%+#§)% serve :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

guille, you should learn an underhanded serve, maybe that's better for you.
dementieva, you!

El Legenda
09-07-2005, 11:06 PM
he must be off the roids :tape:

09-07-2005, 11:34 PM
he must be off the roids :tape:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

I have to admit, that one had me rolling.

09-08-2005, 12:30 AM
Stop comparing his serve to Elena D's! I am watching her right now and she definitely serves better tham that now :)
(Ok she just did a double fault but... :p)

09-08-2005, 02:03 AM
Before the match, they showed Coria's physical trainier working on his right arm. I thought maybe he was just loosening his shoulder up a bit. But apparently, he's been having a problem with a nerve the last 4 days and it makes it difficult for him to grip the racket tightly and he was losing feeling in his fingers. This probably explains why his serve was solid at some points and others he could barely hit it into the net. Overall, his service stats were very similar to Ginepri's (other than the DF):

Fastest Serve:
Coria - 124
Ginepri - 127

Average 1st Serve Speed:
Coria - 105
Ginepri - 108

Average 2nd Serve Speed:
Coria - 92
Ginepri - 90

Coria - 11
Ginepri - 9

Double Faults:
Coria - 14
Ginepri - 5

1st Serve Percentage:
Coria - 59%
Ginepri - 62%

Here's the interview (video interview also on site for Spanish Speakers)

(Through translation.)

THE MODERATOR: Questions, please.

Q. You fought very hard. He had five matchpoints on you that you were able to fight off, stave off. Then to have it finish on a double fault, I imagine that leaves a bad taste in your mouth, yeah?

GUILLERMO CORIA: He has been having problems with the nerve that doesn't allow him to grip very hard. He was losing feeling on the hand. This has been happening for four days.

Q. He said as a consequence of the operation.

GUILLERMO CORIA: He had a lot of treatment during the four days, but during the match, the more he serves, the more it gets tight, the forearm, the shoulder. He knew it could happen. That's just the way it is.

Q. Robby has surprised a lot of people with the fact that he has gone so deep in this tournament. I just would like to know what your assessment of him as an opponent is.

GUILLERMO CORIA: He's been playing very well. He maybe got a little nervous during the third set there, but was able to turn it around and win it.
This match must have got him tired for the next match, the semifinal. But just being in the semifinal will probably get him motivated to play well.

Q. Just if you could comment on your own play. You're playing on hard courts. You had a tough one with Massu. This was a very difficult one, almost went to a tiebreak in the fifth set. Can you assess your own play during this tournament.

GUILLERMO CORIA: He goes out of here feeling very good about the way he played. Last year he could barely lift his arm because of the shoulder surgery at this time during the tournament.

It was bad luck that the match with Massu was such a long match. Today he had a lot of pain throughout the whole body. It was hard to move the way he did. It feels very weird stepping on to the center court for the first time in two years.
But gave it all: ran, tried hard and just gave it all, all he could.

Q. Other than the hand, was there anything else injured?

GUILLERMO CORIA: Everything hurt, but that's from the Massu match. But he knew this is the quarterfinal of a Grand Slam; you try your hardest.
Ginepri, the one thing they want to say also, Ginepri won because he played better than him. At the decisive moments, he played better than him. He won because he deserved it.

09-08-2005, 03:13 PM
its good that he didnt use the physical condition as an excuse, as this would not endear him to the public & the players, since he has a rep to change, and is doing a good job at that. but that does not mean this physical condition was not a major factor, as the more i think about his serve, the more it is hard to imagine a pro--especially with his usual touch--having such poor form in those wounded-duck serves.

A nerve problem in the hand would answer more realistically than a mental fragility explanation, even though he does have some choking tendencies in him. we've ALL seen him choke before. But WHEN did you see that choking occur in his serve like this? NEVER! so why now? ANSWER: Because its not all choking.

It would also explain why it came in patches. Other than that, his serve is actually better than ever. He never got more than 2 or 3 aces before, if that. Now he's acing people over 10 times per match! its amazing. And ginepri won only ONE point against guille's first serve in the entire 4th set and part of the 5th. So, at thispoint, I am truly buying the nerve numbing the hand story.

and in this case, its hard to feel too bad about the result, as in this condition, he could not have beaten either blake or agassi, so even if blake had won last night, he'd still be packing home. he put on a terrific show.

09-08-2005, 04:32 PM
elena stole it to beat lindsay

09-08-2005, 04:47 PM
I'm fairly sure that he has an ongoing injury. He probably knows that he has only so many serves left in his arm/shoulder that he has to choose where to leave them- on the practice court, or in the match. Inevitably, the lack of practice shows in the key moments of the match.