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Nicolas Kiefer, unfulfilled potential?

oneandonlyhsn
09-06-2005, 10:07 PM
Watching this guy, I have no doubt he has huge talent, he has beautiful hands at net and his volleys just die. He has a great serve, and power off both wings. I guess my question is why hasnt he done better especially in WImbledon because his game seems perfect to me for grass.

Timariot
09-06-2005, 10:10 PM
Kiefer was once highly ranked (think he got to #4?) but succumbed to injuries and lack of confidence. It's actually surprising he is fighting so hard against top players recently - in the past, he used to throw big matches without making an effort.

TheBoiledEgg
09-06-2005, 10:12 PM
Kiefer was really good, Germany really expected big things of him.
then some idiot made him all boring and defensive and he would just tap the ball in :rolls: and play counter-attack, lost the plot, got injured and his marbles all at same time.

he was a pain to watch then.

Mistaflava
09-07-2005, 02:12 AM
journeyman for life

YoursTruly
09-07-2005, 03:30 AM
Very unfulfilled potential, underrated and can't seem to get a break. We've seen that talent so many times and thank God he got to reach no.4 already. But like most of you know, his injuries keep putting a stop to everything for him. I think he can still get better with age and it's becoming clear that he is one of the few on tour who can play with Roger and has the belief that he has a chance against him.

Scotso
09-07-2005, 03:34 AM
Too much pressure. Germans just can't live up to Becker and Graf.

YoursTruly
09-07-2005, 03:37 AM
Too much pressure. Germans just can't live up to Becker and Graf.


That is true. Tough job. And it's still even a burden to live up to Stich and Huber's achievements.

Scotso
09-07-2005, 03:40 AM
Stich, maybe. He won Wimbledon.

But Huber? Another German that never lived up to her potential, I don't think people are worried about living up to her accomplishments, to be honest.

YoursTruly
09-07-2005, 03:45 AM
Stich, maybe. He won Wimbledon.

But Huber? Another German that never lived up to her potential, I don't think people are worried about living up to her accomplishments, to be honest.

No, I'm saying that even with what Huber has accomplished, they still cannot get somebody to reach that kind of level.

Pheobo
09-07-2005, 05:40 AM
Stich, maybe. He won Wimbledon.

But Huber? Another German that never lived up to her potential, I don't think people are worried about living up to her accomplishments, to be honest.


Anke did a hell of a lot more than Kiefer ;)

Scotso
09-07-2005, 11:44 PM
Anke did a hell of a lot more than Kiefer ;)

Elaborate.

She won a few more titles, but that's about it.

Neely
09-07-2005, 11:55 PM
Elaborate.

She won a few more titles, but that's about it.
CoreyH is not so wrong. Huber did more than Kiefer so far in his career. Not a "hell more", but overall more. She reached a Grand Slam and Tier I finals (Kiefer's best QFs or semifinals, respectively) and made the final of the WTA Championships only going down to Graf in five sets (Kiefer ATP Championships: semifinal).

SwissMister1
09-08-2005, 12:17 AM
Anke :drool:

Scotso
09-08-2005, 06:13 AM
CoreyH is not so wrong. Huber did more than Kiefer so far in his career. Not a "hell more", but overall more. She reached a Grand Slam and Tier I finals (Kiefer's best QFs or semifinals, respectively) and made the final of the WTA Championships only going down to Graf in five sets (Kiefer ATP Championships: semifinal).

I understand that... but what I'm saying is that she's not done anything to really give her a legacy that people would want to live up to. No one really cares who made grand slam finals... they remember who won them.

Neely
09-08-2005, 06:18 AM
but what I'm saying is that she's not done anything to really give her a legacy that people would want to live up to.
Sure, then I misunderstood you in your intention. That's right of course if you see it from that view.

kosmikgroove
09-08-2005, 07:14 AM
If Keifer got his head straightened out a bit and pumped up, he could dismantle any player. (and if there isn't a breeze to throw off that insanely high toss!) most underrated player i've ever seen, phenomenal forehand AND backhand.

Tennis_Passion
09-08-2005, 07:35 AM
Yup, definitely more talented than big-shot Haas.....
But I still like Rainer the most amongst all Germans, though seemingly the least talented for them all:). Well, seeing how long Agassi has been playing in the tour, who knows, maybe someday Nicolas may win a slam or something, stranger things have happned:).

KarstenBraasch#1
09-08-2005, 07:46 AM
he was a pain to watch then.
And he still is. :p

binkygirl
09-08-2005, 08:20 AM
Too much was expected of him. I remember Cliff Drysdale saying that one day Kiefer might win Wimbledon (granted this was back in the late 90s).

Scotso
09-09-2005, 04:34 AM
Yup, definitely more talented than big-shot Haas.....
But I still like Rainer the most amongst all Germans, though seemingly the least talented for them all:). Well, seeing how long Agassi has been playing in the tour, who knows, maybe someday Nicolas may win a slam or something, stranger things have happned:).

Unfortunately, Rainer is done. Having a good year was the worst thing that ever happened to him.

Pheobo
09-09-2005, 04:36 AM
CoreyH is not so wrong. Huber did more than Kiefer so far in his career. Not a "hell more", but overall more. She reached a Grand Slam and Tier I finals (Kiefer's best QFs or semifinals, respectively) and made the final of the WTA Championships only going down to Graf in five sets (Kiefer ATP Championships: semifinal).


A GS final too ;)

BlackSilver
09-09-2005, 07:09 AM
I would say that he is kind off an underarchiver, I expected better results from him, mainly on grass