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Interesting NYT article on Gasquet: Ljubicic calls him "spoiled"

Tennis Fool
09-06-2005, 09:36 AM
September 4, 2005
A Slightly Calmer Gasquet Advances
By LEE JENKINS
Richard Gasquet threw his racket again.

This time, it did not hit a linesman in the eye. This time, it did not draw blood. This time, it did not result in disqualification.

The 19-year-old Gasquet has found safer places to dispose of his equipment. Yesterday afternoon, he tossed his racket into the net after losing a point, then calmly picked it up and came back for a five-set victory over Ivan Ljubicic in the third round of the United States Open at Armstrong Stadium.

"I feel a lot better," said Gasquet, who is seeded 13th. "I feel like I saw my progress."

He hopes New York saw it, too. Last year, Gasquet walked off the court when he was trailing in a match at the Bronx Challenge. Then he was disqualified from an Open qualifying match for throwing his racket. That the racket accidentally hit a linesman and caused blood to trickle down his face did not help Gasquet's reputation. He went home to France and met with Alain Gonzalez, a family friend who works with troubled adolescents.

Gasquet was suffering from many symptoms of child celebrity. He was on a magazine cover at 9, won at Monte Carlo at 15 and was hailed as the next great French tennis prodigy. But at the start of this year, Gasquet had never won a match in a Grand Slam event. His tantrums were significantly more celebrated than his blistering backhand.

Like many tennis-playing teenagers, Gasquet might have just needed some more time. He beat Roger Federer in Monte Carlo this year, reached the third round at the French Open and the fourth round at Wimbledon. After his second-round opponent at the United States Open retired during their match earlier in the week, Gasquet joked with the French news media that he was supposed to be the one who quit.

"What happened here last year was not good for me," Gasquet said. "But I now have more experience and am more mature. I worked a lot after my disqualification, and I think I learned a lot."

Gasquet is hardly the first young player to throw his racket, although he may be among the first to cause real injury. Racket-tossing is a longstanding tradition among 12-year-olds and professionals alike. Gustavo Kuerten was disqualified from a Wimbledon doubles match in 1998 when he threw his racket in the direction of an umpire. Guillermo Coria threw his racket at the French Open in 2003 and nearly hit a ball girl. Tim Henman did hit a ball girl at Wimbledon in 1995, but it was with a ball instead of a racket.

Gasquet still has a hard time keeping his racket in his hand and still makes the unexpected part of his game. When balls carom off the back fence, he routinely kicks them or bounces them off his head, playing hacky sack in addition to tennis. Trailing early in yesterday's match, Gasquet irritated Ljubicic by repeatedly calling for a trainer during changes to massage his sore right elbow. When Gasquet took command later in the match, he no longer called for the trainer.

"He's a little weird," Ljubicic, seeded 18th, said after his 3-6, 7-6 (6), 6-7 (7), 6-3, 6-2 loss. "He can play great or he can play horrible. He's spoiled. I think he'll grow as a person, but right now, he's a kid and he's acting as a kid."

Ljubicic had similar comments two years ago for Andy Roddick, whom he accused of riling the crowd and alienating fellow players. Gasquet has been compared more often with Rafael Nadal, who was born 15 days earlier and became a force in tennis much more quickly.

In this year's Open, however, Gasquet is in the fourth round and Nadal is out.

Gasquet would prefer not to talk about his racket-chucking any longer. A few more victories, and the subject will probably be smashed.

Chloe le Bopper
09-06-2005, 09:59 AM
Not weird, just French :p

safdem
09-06-2005, 10:09 AM
:eek: i never knew tht hes so emotional

hitchhiker
09-06-2005, 11:10 AM
stfu ljubitch

Sugar Kane
09-06-2005, 11:14 AM
stfu ljubitch
:haha: @ljubitch!!!

heya
09-06-2005, 11:16 AM
Ljubi is spoiled by his fans, for sure. One of them even posts at MTF because he & the fan are relatives. Another loss...another spoiled and unlikeable opponent for Ljubi. Oh well. <sigh>
USA channel had a nice segment with a warm, fuzzy Ljubi interview about his painful childhood too. :tears:

Damita
09-06-2005, 11:26 AM
Not weird, just French :p
:lol: :o

disturb3d
09-06-2005, 11:32 AM
Last year, Gasquet walked off the court when he was trailing in a match at the Bronx Challenge.What a little shit.

vincayou
09-06-2005, 11:56 AM
He's a strange kid for sure, but what to expect from a guy who does the cover of newspaper since he's 9.
I think that Ljubicic should have focused on his game against Richie, and it's pretty irritating to lose against someone who can't serve properly I guess. Somewhere I understand Yvan. Yvan told Richie "is your elbow all right now?" after receiving an ace in the 5th while he was trailing 4-1. :lol: And richie answered him "do you want to play or not?"

He's receiving some bad comments from time to time. Last time it was Davydenko during the davis cup. I think that he's still remembering the day when Richie beat him 6-1 6-1 in the qualies of Monte Carlo when Richie was 15. It is said that the poor Kolya was crying in the locker room. :sad:

heya
09-06-2005, 12:46 PM
Ljubi lost early everywhere, so all his opponents should tell him "Is your brain there? Are you a fluky, lucky journeyman? Ask Federer if he fears any player."

hablovah19
09-06-2005, 01:01 PM
He's a strange kid for sure, but what to expect from a guy who does the cover of newspaper since he's 9.
I think that Ljubicic should have focused on his game against Richie, and it's pretty irritating to lose against someone who can't serve properly I guess. Somewhere I understand Yvan. Yvan told Richie "is your elbow all right now?" after receiving an ace in the 5th while he was trailing 4-1. :lol: And richie answered him "do you want to play or not?"
He's receiving some bad comments from time to time. Last time it was Davydenko during the davis cup. I think that he's still remembering the day when Richie beat him 6-1 6-1 in the qualies of Monte Carlo when Richie was 15. It is said that the poor Kolya was crying in the locker room. :sad:

:lol::eek:

whosnext
09-06-2005, 01:17 PM
He's a strange kid for sure, but what to expect from a guy who does the cover of newspaper since he's 9.
I think that Ljubicic should have focused on his game against Richie, and it's pretty irritating to lose against someone who can't serve properly I guess. Somewhere I understand Yvan. Yvan told Richie "is your elbow all right now?" after receiving an ace in the 5th while he was trailing 4-1. :lol: And richie answered him "do you want to play or not?"

He's receiving some bad comments from time to time. Last time it was Davydenko during the davis cup. I think that he's still remembering the day when Richie beat him 6-1 6-1 in the qualies of Monte Carlo when Richie was 15. It is said that the poor Kolya was crying in the locker room. :sad:
I don't think they said that to each other. I was at the match and I didn't see them exchange any kind of words. Maybe the media just made it up. :rolleyes:

Rex
09-06-2005, 01:17 PM
OMG, wat is this

willrock
09-06-2005, 03:46 PM
I don't think they said that to each other. I was at the match and I didn't see them exchange any kind of words. Maybe the media just made it up. :rolleyes:

It is true. I saw it on TV! I was like :eek:

SwissMister1
09-06-2005, 03:56 PM
Ivan's just jealous - Richard has already done better than Ivan ever has at a Grand Slam. :p

Jogy
09-06-2005, 04:01 PM
stfu ljubitch
:haha: :haha:

The only ashole that is spoilt is Ljubicic assjerk
Why no surprise Ljubicic-bitch complain again about somebody he has lose the match before? :lol:

first learn playing like a man and show me results until speaking like an idiot

trulliscorpion
09-06-2005, 04:07 PM
After all I'm not the only one who thinks the French press almost killed him at birth.

tangerine_dream
09-06-2005, 04:16 PM
Lubadick whining about another successful young upstart? :baby: Maybe he should shut his pie hole and focus on his own myriad of problems. :p

Gasquet will grow up eventually and if he continues to behave badly like this he will either become hugely popular or hugely hated or better yet, both. :)

El Legenda
09-06-2005, 04:23 PM
Lubadick whining about another successful young upstart? :baby: Maybe he should shut his pie hole and focus on his own myriad of problems. :p

Gasquet will grow up eventually and if he continues to behave badly like this he will either become hugely popular or hugely hated or better yet, both. :)

I see someone i still upset that Ljubo beat 2 of 3 guys in your sig during Davis Cup. remember the DC match up USA was gonna win 3-0 :haha: hahahahahahahahahaahahah











hahahahahahahahah

thats all.

delsa
09-06-2005, 04:28 PM
Gasquet will grow up eventually and if he continues to behave badly like this he will either become hugely popular or hugely hated or better yet, both. :)
The thing is he doesn't behave badly... :rolleyes: They keep speaking about this incident over and over and transforming it and the context and everything using it to portray Richard as a "teen with problems" when he's not just to sell papers...They never speak about his game, his true personnality or anything interesting about him on the English-speaking press. They keep transforming stuff like the family friend Alain Gonzales who happens to be a psychologist so he offered to talk with Richard when he was having doubts if tennis was really what he wanted to do in his life etc... is transformed as a guy working in a "Hospital for teenagers" in which Richard would have stayed or something :rolleyes: :mad: :fiery: (excuse the horrible English but i'm very angry so i'm not careful with it anymore...)
I hate this article and many others i was able to read about him in English. :fiery: :mad: And you all buy it!? Pff! :rolleyes: It's so oriented to make him look like a bad boy...I don't like the tone. It's manipulation...
He's not spoiled.

Jogy
09-06-2005, 04:29 PM
:baby: :baby: :baby: Give Ljubicic a dummy to suck on to shut him up his stupid pussy mouth!

El Legenda
09-06-2005, 04:32 PM
:baby: :baby: :baby: Give Ljubicic a dummy to suck on to shut him up his stupid pussy mouth!

maybe Mistaflava is not the MTF Idiot of the Year, keep up the good work, I can see Ljubo's success is keeping you up at night, you only post about him. :cool:

trulliscorpion
09-06-2005, 04:39 PM
The thing is he doesn't behave badly... :rolleyes: They keep speaking about this incident over and over and transforming it and the context and everything using it to portray Richard as a "teen with problems" when he's not just to sell papers...They never speak about his game, his true personnality or anything interesting about him on the English-speaking press. They keep transforming stuff like the family friend Alain Gonzales who happens to be a psychologist so he offered to talk with Richard when he was having doubts if tennis was really what he wanted to do in his life etc... is transformed as a guy working in a "Hospital for teenagers" in which Richard would have stayed or something :rolleyes: :mad: :fiery: (excuse the horrible English but i'm very angry so i'm not careful with it anymore...)
I hate this article and many others i was able to read about him in English. :fiery: :mad: And you all buy it!? Pff! :rolleyes: It's so oriented to make him look like a bad boy...I don't like the tone. It's manipulation...
He's not spoiled.

:yeah:

Shabazza
09-06-2005, 04:58 PM
The thing is he doesn't behave badly... :rolleyes: They keep speaking about this incident over and over and transforming it and the context and everything using it to portray Richard as a "teen with problems" when he's not just to sell papers...They never speak about his game, his true personnality or anything interesting about him on the English-speaking press. They keep transforming stuff like the family friend Alain Gonzales who happens to be a psychologist so he offered to talk with Richard when he was having doubts if tennis was really what he wanted to do in his life etc... is transformed as a guy working in a "Hospital for teenagers" in which Richard would have stayed or something :rolleyes: :mad: :fiery: (excuse the horrible English but i'm very angry so i'm not careful with it anymore...)
I hate this article and many others i was able to read about him in English. :fiery: :mad: And you all buy it!? Pff! :rolleyes: It's so oriented to make him look like a bad boy...I don't like the tone. It's manipulation...
He's not spoiled.
so true, nothing more to say :yeah:

delsa
09-06-2005, 04:58 PM
And i can't stand anymore those commentators and those who write these stupid articles who are INCOMPETENT!! Since they don't check thier facts and we could even ask ourselves if they really follow tennis...They say looking at it at the USO or Cincy when there was enough "noise" and talk about him before in the season for someone who's supposed to follow even only a little bit of tennis to take notice at least...that is serve is shit... Yes it was! Duh! :mad: But it's not "his" serve! It was the tennis-elbow/tendinitis highly diminished version at 100mph at best!...Had they not be sleeping fduring the grass season (and even during the clay season actually...) they should know his serve is pretty efficient even if it's far from perfect... He usually gets a lot of points from it! And it's usually around 125/130 mph (not sure of the conversion from kilometersph :o )!
Fuc***g incompetent i tell you! :fiery: Or volontarly keeping things unknown...I don't know why...Maybe i'm too angry so i go crazy but really i'm becoming suspicious...
There are stupid French newspapers like that too but you just know their names and you don't read them. And you write to the others when they make stupid things like that but that's getting to much here...
I'll stop now...I fell better...Sorry about that. You can ban me or badrep me if you want.

*julie*
09-06-2005, 05:15 PM
Sorry about that. You can ban me or badrep me if you want.
I don't want to badrep you Delsa! You took the words out of my mouth... :hug:

vincayou
09-06-2005, 05:15 PM
Yes sometimes you wonder how some journalists get their job. I read many people here who have a much better knowledge of the game, or at least of the players.

C3PO
09-06-2005, 05:31 PM
I've never heard Richard saying bad things about an another player.. And if someone here ever heard/read Richard saying bad things, go on, but I guess you won't find anything... The only troubles he has caused are to himself. Like when he throws his racket or when he walked off the court last year because he was so upset with his own game... But he is learning and he is making huge progress this year.

mishar
09-06-2005, 05:35 PM
I thought Richard has shown amazing composure. He never seems to get upset about a point or a bad shot. I hope his elbow gets better and he gets stronger physically. His game is otherwise there already on all surfaces.

SwissMister1
09-06-2005, 05:40 PM
I think you make a lot of very good points delsa. Richard isn't really well known by the American press especially so they basically make up a whole image of him based on two or three stories I have heard.

What the press most likely did not see was Richard stopping by and watching his countrymen play at the US Open when most players do not do things like that...

oneandonlyhsn
09-06-2005, 05:50 PM
I think you make a lot of very good points delsa. Richard isn't really well known by the American press especially so they basically make up a whole image of him based on two or three stories I have heard.

What the press most likely did not see was Richard stopping by and watching his countrymen play at the US Open when most players do not do things like that...

:yeah: Americans love juicy stories so they will take any or an irrelevant incident and milk it for all its worth.

silverwhite
09-06-2005, 05:57 PM
I don't even need to comment. Delsa has said everything that needs to be said. :worship:

Castafiore
09-06-2005, 06:10 PM
:yeah: Americans love juicy stories so they will take any or an irrelevant incident and milk it for all its worth.
Judging from this international message board alone, it's not only the Americans who love juicy stories.


How often do you see a well written article about a tennis player in the main press? IMO, not that often.
What Ljubicic said could be taken all out of context for all we know.

At least, the American press are starting to take notice of Richard. That's the good point.

Black Adam
09-06-2005, 06:17 PM
Ivan always has something like this to say after a loss.

El Legenda
09-06-2005, 07:29 PM
Ivan always has something like this to say after a loss.

Really. so USO 2003- USO 2005. so thats 2 in 2 years...can you point out the 40 something others?


Thank You Come Again.. :rolleyes:

Flibbertigibbet
09-06-2005, 11:54 PM
My assumption is that Gasquet was sort of a brat when he was younger (read: a year ago :)). I mean, he seemed to show great, almost Federer-like composure (except he didn't manage to win :sad: ) in the match with Ginepri. Or at least, I thought so anyway. In the two sets (and the match finish) that I saw, he seemed quite genial towards Ginepri at the end of the match, didn't dispute calls, wasn't angry at his mistakes, etc., etc. And he also fought - until after the fourth set, he was managing to take it to Ginepri. I mean, it could have been over in four - Ginepri had, what, four set points in the third, right? So I guess one has to look at the positives.

blosson
09-06-2005, 11:59 PM
Really. so USO 2003- USO 2005. so thats 2 in 2 years...can you point out the 40 something others?


:lol: you are now exposing all Ivan losses now

El Legenda
09-07-2005, 12:13 AM
:lol: you are now exposing all Ivan losses now

help me to prove the point that TGS is an idiot. :wavey:

LaTenista
09-07-2005, 01:24 AM
Ljubicic is the king of smack talk on the tour. In fact, he ought to just go back to Croatia and host his own Jerry Springer-like talk show. :rolleyes:

Ivan is obviously jealous. Not to mention I've seen him use the trainer as a gamesmanship tactic before. Pot calling the kettle black. :eek: Maybe if he stopped worrying about the other players and concentrated on his game he'd have a chance to finally get past the 3rd round at a major. :tape:

Geniey2g
09-07-2005, 01:46 AM
Ljuby's just pissed that nobody's waiting naked in his locker anymore.

El Legenda
09-07-2005, 02:13 AM
Ljubicic is the king of smack talk on the tour. In fact, he ought to just go back to Croatia and host his own Jerry Springer-like talk show. :rolleyes:
:

really..can you also name other times that ivan has said anything after losing a match, thats not 2003 USO or 2005

yeah thats right No.
thank you come again idiot.