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the arrogance of Federer

Turkeyballs Paco
08-25-2005, 05:42 PM
"I have a great record against anybody right now, so it doesn't really matter who I play in the final. I'll be in there as the big favorite. But I play my best in the finals, in the important matches. That's why I'm number one. There's no secret...I'm not overconfident, but very confident."
-- Roger Federer after winning the first semifinal in Cincinnati.

I've seen lots of comments about Federer being the most arrogant, or becoming more arrogant. Maybe it's confidence, not arrogance.

oneandonlyhsn
08-25-2005, 05:51 PM
I guess people want him to say that no if I play a match I'm not the fav, despite winning 22 straight finals. If he did that then people would say he is fake :lol: Cant please everyone, I'd rather he were honest, which he is. If some people see that as arrogance then fine

jenanun
08-25-2005, 05:53 PM
what he said is just the truth! haha!

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 05:58 PM
"I have a great record against anybody right now, so it doesn't really matter who I play in the final. I'll be in there as the big favorite.

Head to Head versus probably his most likely final opponent...........

Roger Federer 1 - 2 Rafael Nadal

2005 Roland Garros, Clay, S
France Clay S Nadal 3-6 6-4 4-6 3-6
2005 ATP Masters Series Miami, Hard, F
FL, U.S.A. Hard F Federer 2-6 6-7 7-6 6-3 6-1
2004 Miami AMS, Hard, R32
FL, U.S.A. Hard R32 Nadal 3-6 3-6

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:01 PM
nadal is not his most likely final opponent,

oneandonlyhsn
08-25-2005, 06:02 PM
Head to Head versus probably his most likely final opponent...........

Roger Federer 1 - 2 Rafael Nadal

2005 Roland Garros, Clay, S
France Clay S Nadal 3-6 6-4 4-6 3-6
2005 ATP Masters Series Miami, Hard, F
FL, U.S.A. Hard F Federer 2-6 6-7 7-6 6-3 6-1
2004 Miami AMS, Hard, R32
FL, U.S.A. Hard R32 Nadal 3-6 3-6

At the US Open this year, unlikely

jenanun
08-25-2005, 06:03 PM
Head to Head versus probably his most likely final opponent...........
Roger Federer 1 - 2 Rafael Nadal



he said that when he won semi in cincinnti.
so he was referring to hewitt and roddick

plus nadal is indeed one of the likely player to be seen in final in USO....

alfonsojose
08-25-2005, 06:04 PM
another Wtahellesque thread :yawn:

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:05 PM
if all players live up to their form it will be, roger/safin semi with roger winning, agassi/roddick semi with roddick winning and roger winning the final.

liptea
08-25-2005, 06:05 PM
I mean, did you want him to say, "ok guys, I'm sorry but I'm not the favorite. I'm the number one player in the world, but I play like shit. I win all my finals, but I suck at finals. I'm really NOT going to win the US Open, because there are better players out there. Despite having overwhelming records against top players recently, I don't think I can beat them. I'm not underconfident, I'm just modest."

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:05 PM
nadal is not his most likely final opponent,

Nonsense, who is then? The bookies seem to think so, he's the no.2 seed, he's no.2 in the world.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:07 PM
if all players live up to their form it will be, roger/safin semi with roger winning, agassi/roddick semi with roddick winning and roger winning the final.

Yes, Roddick and Agassi are in better form than Nadal :rolleyes:

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:09 PM
Nonsense, who is then? The bookies seem to think so, he's the no.2 seed, he's no.2 in the world.
the bookies are shite. he is not the 2 best hardcourter in the world, far from it, roddick,agassi are better hardcourters. roddick is most likley to be in the final from the bottom half of the draw.
nadal got to the no2 in the world through clay, because he is no2 in the world it doesnt mean he is second best player on harcourt.

lau
08-25-2005, 06:10 PM
Are we going to turn this into another Fed fans vs. Rafa fans thread again? :rolleyes:
Which one was the last one? It had to appear a new one after a few days :lol:

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 06:11 PM
Wow someone must be desperate for some V-cash.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:11 PM
the bookies are shite. he is not the 2 best hardcourter in the world, far from it, roddick,agassi are better hardcourters. roddick is most likley to be in the final from the bottom half of the draw.
nadal got to the no2 in the world through clay, because he is no2 in the world it doesnt mean he is second best player on harcourt.

Were my eyes deceiving me when I saw Nadal see off Agassi in the final of Toronto? I didn't realise that was on a clay court.

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:11 PM
Yes, Roddick and Agassi are in better form than Nadal :rolleyes:
well i owuld say roddick is.
but i mean if they live up to their playing potential, they are better players than nadal on harcourts

jenanun
08-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Nonsense, who is then? The bookies seem to think so, he's the no.2 seed, he's no.2 in the world.

i think nadal has great chance, well at least get into the semi..

i agree with you adee-gee...don't worry
there are a lot of people out there still havent seen nadal.....

Sjengster
08-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Nadal's in better form at the moment than Agassi or Roddick, and has won a major hardcourt title in the past year, something they haven't. I expect him to repeat the Montreal final victory if he plays Agassi in the quarters, but would probably predict Roddick to beat him in the semis.

I seriously doubt Federer would describe himself as the overwhelming favourite ahead of a final against Nadal, he has more sense than that.

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:12 PM
Were my eyes deceiving me when I saw Nadal see off Agassi in the final of Toronto? I didn't realise that was on a clay court.
you cannot base your judgement on whose the better hardcourt player on one match. agassi played like shit anyway.

Sjengster
08-25-2005, 06:13 PM
Some of that was to do with Nadal, remarkably.

Blaze
08-25-2005, 06:14 PM
you cannot base your judgement on whose the better hardcourt player on one match. agassi played like shit anyway.

Are you not tired of the discussions? :rolleyes:

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:16 PM
you cannot base your judgement on whose the better hardcourt player on one match. agassi played like shit anyway.

:lol: I don't think even Agassi's biggest fan would suggest he would be favourite to beat Nadal at the moment.

As for Roddick being in better form, he's lost to Ginepri and Mathieu in the last few weeks. I would say Roddick v Nadal would be a very tough match, but with all things being considered you'd have to say the likely US Open final is Federer v Nadal, like it or lump it.

Nimomunz
08-25-2005, 06:17 PM
you cannot base your judgement on whose the better hardcourt player on one match. agassi played like shit anyway.
did you watch it? agassi didnt play like shit!!

PaulieM
08-25-2005, 06:17 PM
wow i really wish roger would stop lying through his teeth like this

Sjengster
08-25-2005, 06:18 PM
Well, there were patches of shitness (if you'll pardon the expression) that reminded me of Agassi in semi-tank mode, but there was also much good play from him and errors that were extracted by Nadal's incredible retrieving and defensive plays.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:18 PM
did you watch it? agassi didnt play like shit!!

he did. and it was on a clay court. you obviously were watching a different match :p

oneandonlyhsn
08-25-2005, 06:19 PM
I mean, did you want him to say, "ok guys, I'm sorry but I'm not the favorite. I'm the number one player in the world, but I play like shit. I win all my finals, but I suck at finals. I'm really NOT going to win the US Open, because there are better players out there. Despite having overwhelming records against top players recently, I don't think I can beat them. I'm not underconfident, I'm just modest."

:lol: Thats exactly what some people would want him to say on this board, and then he would be called a hypocrite.

As for Rafa at the Open, I want him to do well but I think he still has some trouble against big servers on fast HC

lau
08-25-2005, 06:20 PM
No, Fed is not arrogant :)

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:33 PM
:lol: I don't think even Agassi's biggest fan would suggest he would be favourite to beat Nadal at the moment.

As for Roddick being in better form, he's lost to Ginepri and Mathieu in the last few weeks. I would say Roddick v Nadal would be a very tough match, but with all things being considered you'd have to say the likely US Open final is Federer v Nadal, like it or lump it.
well roddick got to the final of cincy only to lose to federer and that is the most recent big hardcourt tourny. what happend to nadal??!! o yeah he lost first round to berdie.
but your missing my point, iam not saying roddick and agassi will get to the semis based on their recent form, i am saying it whether they will play to their potential. in my eyes i believe that roddick and agassi are better hardcourt players than nadal, you may agree or disagre just like other people will but its what i think but iam not saying its true its just what i believe.
i have no problem with nadal getting to the final, i dont like it or lump it, but to say that it is naive. i think alot of people on this board belive that roddick is more likley to get to the final than nadal but other people will think different. so i totaly disagree with your last line.

auwkeung
08-25-2005, 06:40 PM
Nadal certainly can play on hard court
but whether he can live up in a two weeks best-of-5-set tournament on a hard court is questionable, considering he's playing clay court tennis on a hard surface....

can u remember the final in miami??

Nadal juz ran out of gas in the final set, as he did all the running 3-4 feets behind the baseline.......

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:40 PM
can u remember the final in miami??

Nadal juz ran out of gas in the final set, as he did all the running 3-4 feets behind the baseline.......

He also should have won in 3 sets. He was cheated by a line call.

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:42 PM
He also should have won in 3 sets. He was cheated by a line call.
like it or lump it he lost

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:45 PM
like it or lump it he lost

Indeed, but he got his revenge at the rather more important French Open :D

PaulieM
08-25-2005, 06:45 PM
He also should have won in 3 sets. He was cheated by a line call.
and that was the first bad call in this history of tennis? one could speculate about the outcomes of a lot of matches which had a bad call on a big point, there's no telling what would have happened in any of the points following it.

Castafiore
08-25-2005, 06:48 PM
:scratch:
How did you guys end up talking about Rafa again in a thread about Roger?

On topic: no, I don't think he's arrogant. He's just very confident and he likes to show that confidence IMO because he knows that many players are intimidated by him.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:50 PM
and that was the first bad call in this history of tennis? one could speculate about the outcomes of a lot of matches which had a bad call on a big point, there's no telling what would have happened in any of the points following it.

True, but he would've been in a very strong position to win. And if it was the other way around, I'm sure you'd be bringing it up :p

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:50 PM
:scratch:
How did you guys end up talking about Rafa again in a thread about Roger?


a rafa fan brought him up.

lau
08-25-2005, 06:52 PM
:scratch:
How did you guys end up talking about Rafa again in a thread about Roger?

:secret: It started in post #4 :haha:

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:52 PM
a rafa fan brought him up.

All I suggested was he was Federer's most likely final opponent. It was very relevant to the topic. Then I was fed with a lot of :bs: from Fed fans

WF4EVER
08-25-2005, 06:55 PM
I do not understand why Nadal is even 2nd favorite to win at the US open when he has not contended on a regular basis against the best of the hardcourt players. He did beat Agassi in the final and I'd expect him to beat him again but anything's possible, but Nadal has not played Federer on HC since Miami, he hasn't played Hewitt, Safin or Roddick recently, so how can anyone take it for granted that he'll make the USO final.

He has certainly beaten the claycourters handily on clay and HC but can he beat the usual HC 'specialists' on HC?

oneandonlyhsn
08-25-2005, 06:55 PM
All I suggested was he was Federer's most likely final opponent. It was very relevant to the topic. Then I was fed with a lot of :bs: from Fed fans

:scratch: That some people think that Roddick and Agassi pose more of a threat on fast HC then Rafa. Its an opinion, I guess anything you disagree with is BS

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:55 PM
All I suggested was he was Federer's most likely final opponent. It was very relevant to the topic. Then I was fed with a lot of :bs: from Fed fans
doesnt change the fact that YOU brought him up

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:56 PM
I do not understand why Nadal is even 2nd favorite to win at the US open when he has not contended on a regular basis against the best of the hardcourt players. He did beat Agassi in the final and I'd expect him to beat him again but anything's possible, but Nadal has not played Federer on HC since Miami, he hasn't played Hewitt, Safin or Roddick recently, so how can anyone take it for granted that he'll make the USO final.

He has certainly beaten the claycourters handily on clay and HC but can he beat the usual HC 'specialists' on HC?

No-one is taking it for granted that he'll reach the US Open Final. I just think he's more likely than anyone else to face Federer in the Final.

PaulieM
08-25-2005, 06:57 PM
True, but he would've been in a very strong position to win. And if it was the other way around, I'm sure you'd be bringing it up :p
:p no sweetie actually i wouldn't. you never know what is going to happen next in a match, unless an absolutely stupid call comes on match point, i wouldn't claim that if it hadn't been for the bad call a player would have won the match.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:57 PM
:scratch: That some people think that Roddick and Agassi pose more of a threat on fast HC then Rafa. Its an opinion, I guess anything you disagree with is BS

No the BS was the fact that Agassi and Roddick are in better form.

1sun
08-25-2005, 06:57 PM
:scratch: That some people think that Roddick and Agassi pose more of a threat on fast HC then Rafa. Its an opinion, I guess anything you disagree with is BS
amen

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:57 PM
And that Nadal can only play on clay courts

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 06:58 PM
:p no sweetie actually i wouldn't. you never know what is going to happen next in a match, unless an absolutely stupid call comes on match point, i wouldn't claim that if it hadn't been for the bad call a player would have won the match.

I don't believe you :nerner:

1sun
08-25-2005, 07:00 PM
No the BS was the fact that Agassi and Roddick are in better form.
sorry now but are you stupid? i never said that they are in better form i said that if roddick and agassi play to their potential then they will beat nadal.
and to be honest who is to say that nadal is in better form than roddick? if i am correct roddicks most recent is better than nadals. surely a final loss is better than a first round loss?

Castafiore
08-25-2005, 07:00 PM
:secret: It started in post #4
:haha:

A thread started about Roger and 3,5 pages and counting about Rafa?
Impressive.

1sun
08-25-2005, 07:01 PM
And that Nadal can only play on clay courts
seriously shut up. nobody ever said that.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:03 PM
sorry now but are you stupid? i never said that they are in better form i said that if roddick and agassi play to their potential then they will beat nadal.
and to be honest who is to say that nadal is in better form than roddick? if i am correct roddicks most recent is better than nadals. surely a final loss is better than a first round loss?

you said.......

if all players live up to their form it will be, roger/safin semi with roger winning, agassi/roddick semi with roddick winning and roger winning the final.

And by the way, the rankings don't lie. As much as you might like to think, you don't only get points for clay court events.

oneandonlyhsn
08-25-2005, 07:03 PM
Ah God, can we seriously stop the bickering seriously too many WTA posters have signed onto this board recently :mad:

lau
08-25-2005, 07:04 PM
:haha:

A thread started about Roger and 3,5 pages and counting about Rafa?
Impressive.
Correction: a thread started about Fed`s arrogance and 3,5 pages and counting about Rafa`s performance on hardcourts :haha:

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:05 PM
If we all stuck to thread titles this forum would be a lot more boring. Admit it :p

1sun
08-25-2005, 07:06 PM
you said.......



And by the way, the rankings don't lie. As much as you might like to think, you don't only get points for clay court events.
when i said live up to their form, i meant there personal form, their best tennis.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:08 PM
when i said live up to their form, i meant there personal form, their best tennis.

Fine, even still I'd be inclined to disagree. Agassi would struggle to compete with Rafa over 5 sets, I'd be confident Rafa would win. Roddick would be a different story, if he got the level he played at the 2003 US Open he'd beat Rafa no doubt about it. But he hasn't played like that for 2 years.

1sun
08-25-2005, 07:08 PM
you said.......



And by the way, the rankings don't lie. As much as you might like to think, you don't only get points for clay court events.
no rankings do lie about hows the best on certin surfaces.
because roger is no1 in the world does it mean he is the best player on clay?no.

1sun
08-25-2005, 07:11 PM
Fine, even still I'd be inclined to disagree. Agassi would struggle to compete with Rafa over 5 sets, I'd be confident Rafa would win. Roddick would be a different story, if he got the level he played at the 2003 US Open he'd beat Rafa no doubt about it. But he hasn't played like that for 2 years.
i think rafa would struggle to compete with agassi over 5 sets on hardcourt. remember miami? melbourne?
look, we are never going to agree so lets just leave it.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:14 PM
i think rafa would struggle to compete with agassi over 5 sets on hardcourt. remember miami? melbourne?
look, we are never going to agree so lets just leave it.

Agassi looked a lot more tired towards the end of the Toronto final than Nadal did. Agassi is 35, Nadal is 19. Nadal can run forever, both Miami and Melbourne were ridiculously hot and he's improved physically since then. Also, the fact that both those matches were slowly slipping away was also why he had nothing left in the tank.

We'll see what happens.....

Corey Feldman
08-25-2005, 07:15 PM
Were my eyes deceiving me when I saw Nadal see off Agassi in the final of Toronto? I didn't realise that was on a clay court.
Yes they were
the final was in Montreal :silly:

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:18 PM
Yes they were
the final was in Montreal :silly:

:lol: fair point

Corey Feldman
08-25-2005, 07:21 PM
;)

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:21 PM
:yeah:

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 07:24 PM
Montreal was blue clay though.

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 07:25 PM
Montreal was blue clay though.

Obviously, Nadal can't win a match when its not a clay court underneath his feet.

Peoples
08-25-2005, 07:27 PM
He could say "I have a winning streak of ..., I've won ... finals in a row, I've won ... slams, I'm number once since..., why should I not be the favourite and not win again" and even that seemingly arrogant statement would be just the truth. If he said something different than he does, it would either make him look boring (saying something to avoid his real thoughts) or phony (playing his chances down, so it looks ridiculous).

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 07:30 PM
For the record no matter what Fed says people will think he's arrogant, but compared to Sampras, Becker, Courier, Lendl, Connors or McEnroe. Federer struggles in that department.

auwkeung
08-25-2005, 07:48 PM
considering his "arrogance",it's juz another factor that earn him a lot of fans, they like him because he is "real", both his speech and action

he didn't say more than the truth, he didn't say "I am the king of the world and no body will be capable of beating me in the USO" or something like that

disturb3d
08-25-2005, 07:51 PM
what he said is just the truth! haha!That's why he's not a true champ. Sampras on the other hand (who was equally as dominant) gave full credit to opposing players, and presented himself humbly.

Its insane to be a fan of Roger. He has nothing going for him but good tennis skills.

auwkeung
08-25-2005, 07:53 PM
i think rafa would struggle to compete with agassi over 5 sets on hardcourt. remember miami? melbourne?
look, we are never going to agree so lets just leave it.
as andre gained experience from his previous defeat
he may figure out some way to deal with nadal's lefty spin (which he mentioned he struggled in the opening of the match)

then it may be a very tight match

but then if nadal brings him to the forth or fifth set....than agassi's chance is far less than nadal's

if agassi is gonna beat nadal, he needs to beat him fast

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 07:53 PM
That's why he's not a true champ. Sampras on the other hand (who was equally as dominant) gave full credit to opposing players, and presented himself humbly.

Its insane to be a fan of Roger. He has nothing going for him but good tennis skills.

Sampras humble that's a brilliant statement. You're on fire.

auwkeung
08-25-2005, 07:58 PM
That's why he's not a true champ. Sampras on the other hand (who was equally as dominant) gave full credit to opposing players, and presented himself humbly.

Its insane to be a fan of Roger. He has nothing going for him but good tennis skills.
oh com'on......did you hear in the post-match interview of Andy in the Cincy final??

Andy was admired that Roger carries himself so well even offcourt

and did roger say anything offensive to his opponent? certainly didn't

he says to the media that hewitt, andy ... are his serious title contender all the time, even he beats them over and over again

rofe
08-25-2005, 08:00 PM
That's why he's not a true champ. Sampras on the other hand (who was equally as dominant) gave full credit to opposing players, and presented himself humbly.

Its insane to be a fan of Roger. He has nothing going for him but good tennis skills.

You should try to back up your statements with actual fact. Come up with one interview in which he doesn't give credit to his opposition (especially when he loses).

mitalidas
08-25-2005, 08:02 PM
Thankfully there is videofeed to accompany most of Roger's statements. Independently, I understand why people think "I fear no one, but I respect everyone", "It doesn't matter who I play in the next round, I am the favorite", "I played a perfect match" comes across as arrogant. But for Pete's sake (or Boris's or Lendl's), take a look at the man when he is saying it, and how he is saying it.

Turkeyballs Paco
08-25-2005, 08:03 PM
Quoting Federer,
"I am now a very happy, very honest person. I believe in my talent. I don't fear anyone anymore."

Quoting from Tennis mag, which goes on to say...
"There's nothing offhand or self-pleased in Federer's tone when he says these things; he's possessed of supreme confidence, but not conceit. (Conceit, after all usually masks a lack of confidence, and Federer, who went 51-2 from 2004 US Open to Monte Carlo this year, proves the adage that it ain't bragging if you can back it up.)

I agree.

Sjengster
08-25-2005, 08:03 PM
"What's the difference between me and Andy? Four Grand Slams."

Now THAT's the kind of humility we need to be hearing from Federer, the arrogant jackanapes.

Turkeyballs Paco
08-25-2005, 08:05 PM
:haha:

A thread started about Roger and 3,5 pages and counting about Rafa?
Impressive.

It's all good! Keep it up!

MissMoJo
08-25-2005, 08:10 PM
You know, you could've just dug up the 13344656 other threads on this very tired topic :yawn:

Turkeyballs Paco
08-25-2005, 08:13 PM
There's a tired topic born every day. ;)

Blaze
08-25-2005, 08:39 PM
There's a tired topic born every day. ;)


Or you wouldn't get as much vcash as you are getting from this one :)

MariaV
08-25-2005, 08:47 PM
Maybe it's confidence, not arrogance.

I'll contribute to your vCash as well then. ;)
It's definitely confidence, not arrogance. :D :wavey:

Turkeyballs Paco
08-25-2005, 08:48 PM
What do you mean? I started a serious thread here. What is this vcash you speak of? :)

Turkeyballs Paco
08-25-2005, 08:49 PM
I'll contribute to your vCash as well then. ;)
It's definitely confidence, not arrogance. :D :wavey:

That's what I'm talking about. I used to think he was a little arrogant, but I don't anymore.

faboozadoo15
08-25-2005, 09:15 PM
question: how many times has nadal lost in a tournament before his collision course with federer since the french open? 3 times since? well...

NYCtennisfan
08-25-2005, 09:25 PM
"What's the difference between me and Andy? Four Grand Slams."

Now THAT's the kind of humility we need to be hearing from Federer, the arrogant jackanapes.

Hahahahaha. You have to admit, those journalists had that one coming from Pete:)

Sjengster
08-25-2005, 09:26 PM
That was me ridiculing the idea of the "humble" Sampras, not suggesting Federer should emulate him.

NYCtennisfan
08-25-2005, 09:54 PM
I understood you the first time. I'm just saying that the pithy little quote by Sampras was a good one. :)

adee-gee
08-25-2005, 10:59 PM
question: how many times has nadal lost in a tournament before his collision course with federer since the french open? 3 times since? well...

He's clearly scared of him :rolleyes:

NicoMassuTheBest
08-26-2005, 02:31 AM
he is only nice when winning. When he is losing he shows bad face,throw raquets,scream , and looks irritated as in miami against nadal,zabaleta and ancic, as in montecarlo against gasquet}

every player always kisses his ass only to be ok with him and to create no polemic with press.

besides he is pretty arrogant

i hope i will not get banned just by expressing my opinion

greetings

oneandonlyhsn
08-26-2005, 03:41 AM
he is only nice when winning. When he is losing he shows bad face,throw raquets,scream , and looks irritated as in miami against nadal,zabaleta and ancic, as in montecarlo against gasquet}

every player always kisses his ass only to be ok with him and to create no polemic with press.

besides he is pretty arrogant

i hope i will not get banned just by expressing my opinion

greetings

I guess a player be smiling and laughing when he is losing :rolleyes: atleast its more emotion than Massu

Auscon
08-26-2005, 04:06 AM
Well, if he said he wasnt the fav, said he wasnt very confident, people would say he's full of shit, so I'd much rather have a highly confident, truth-telling Roger than one who talks crap

Mimi
08-26-2005, 05:39 AM
sampras, i don't think he is arrogant :rolleyes:
For the record no matter what Fed says people will think he's arrogant, but compared to Sampras, Becker, Courier, Lendl, Connors or McEnroe. Federer struggles in that department.

Oriental_Rain
08-26-2005, 06:07 AM
whats wrong with saying, "I fear no one but I respect them all." If I am no.1 for 82 weeks, then I have every right to be confident.

Fergie
08-26-2005, 06:23 AM
he is only nice when winning. When he is losing he shows bad face,throw raquets,scream , and looks irritated as in miami against nadal,zabaleta and ancic, as in montecarlo against gasquet}

And would you laugh if you are losing? :lol:

Mimi
08-26-2005, 08:45 AM
:bowdown: :haha: :woohoo: :bigclap: :yeah: , you are so right , i have to admit that roger's achievements are much bigger than nadal, but pls give this young nadal some respect, just like Roger did, he won the montreal final fair and square, not that agassi was playing shit ;)

Indeed, but he got his revenge at the rather more important French Open :D

oneandonlyhsn
08-26-2005, 09:13 AM
:bowdown: :haha: :woohoo: :bigclap: :yeah: , you are so right , i have to admit that roger's achievements are much bigger than nadal, but pls give this young nadal some respect, just like Roger did, he won the montreal final fair and square, not that agassi was playing shit ;)

:worship: :worship: Great post

skel1983
08-26-2005, 09:58 AM
"I have a great record against anybody right now, so it doesn't really matter who I play in the final. I'll be in there as the big favorite. But I play my best in the finals, in the important matches. That's why I'm number one. There's no secret...I'm not overconfident, but very confident."
-- Roger Federer after winning the first semifinal in Cincinnati.

I've seen lots of comments about Federer being the most arrogant, or becoming more arrogant. Maybe it's confidence, not arrogance.


He cant win a thread the other week was, how can Federer say he is not favourate against Blake???

The guy is telling it how it is have you seen his finals record, what do you want him to say it's a 50/50 match i hope to win, get real he is saying what everyone knows.

Purple Rainbow
08-26-2005, 10:06 AM
Wow! Another Federer is arrogant thread!

:zzz:

nobama
08-26-2005, 12:13 PM
Well if he didn't sound confident than people would bitch and complain saying he's purposely lowering expectations to take the pressure off. Or he's not giving his opponents enough credit. When he lost at RG and said he didn't play well some complained about that because they felt he was slighting Nadal (i.e., Nadal only won because I sucked). I go by what other players have to say about him, and it's hard to find anyone that says bad things about him.

This is what J.J. Carter PR guy for the ATP said about Roger:
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/11/14/Sports/America_s_love_affair.shtml
"Roger is very low maintenance," Carter said. "People jump to the conclusion (that Federer is dull). So many compare him to Pete Sampras. But the comparison between him and Pete stops when he walks off the court. Roger's very well-liked among the players. He jokes around and plays pingpong and pool with them. I think if people had the opportunity to talk to him or see and speak to him, they wouldn't say he's shy, quiet or boring."Was Pete not well liked among the other players?

skel1983
08-26-2005, 12:35 PM
sampras, i don't think he is arrogant :rolleyes:


Rusedski press confrence US Open 02????

ring any bells??

amierin
08-26-2005, 01:16 PM
Was Pete not well liked among the other players?

People always tiptoe around Sampras attitude but it seems the answer to your question is he wasn't. He never deigned to admit they existed in the Peteverse. There could be many reasons for this but he was never one of the "guys" IIRC.

Action Jackson
08-26-2005, 01:19 PM
sampras, i don't think he is arrogant :rolleyes:

Yes, even a guy like Rafter wasn't a fan of Sampras and that has to say something about his character and that comment from Carter isn't surprising either.

nobama
08-26-2005, 01:44 PM
People always tiptoe around Sampras attitude but it seems the answer to your question is he wasn't. He never deigned to admit they existed in the Peteverse. There could be many reasons for this but he was never one of the "guys" IIRC.Was that more because he was a standoffish guy, kind of a loner and not one to "hang" with the other guys and that was perceived as arrogance or was it more what he said in press conferences/interviews?

amierin
08-26-2005, 01:50 PM
Was that more because he was a standoffish guy, kind of a loner and not one to "hang" with the other guys and that was perceived as arrogance or was it more what he said in press conferences/interviews?

That's why I said there could be reasons for this. Some people are not "mixers" and prefer to be off on their own. I'm one of them. I have read things which showed him as not so nice a person but they were written before the Sampras Mystique thing got going and they tried to humanize him a little.