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Is Andy Murray too defensive?

In_Disguise
08-20-2005, 09:21 PM
Is Andy Murray too defensive to reach the top the game? Throughout Queens and Wimbledon, the majority of the times he was just trying to get the ball back into play, and very rarely being the aggressor. His game reminds me a bit of Chang, but without the fitness and footspeed. Even if Murray improves his fitness, does he have the game and power to reach the top in this day and age?

ClaycourtaZzZz.
08-20-2005, 09:27 PM
Murray's Murray and will stay Murray.
He's not realy defensive, he just doesn't want to play with to match risk. He's not as offensive as Federer is. But he can defend himself good, so you can say he's defensive if you like! But I don't! In the match Vs. ToJo at Queens he was verry offensive with his FH.

stuey87
08-20-2005, 09:27 PM
It was interesting in Safin's aftermatch interview he said his plan had been to target Andy's forehand as the weaker shot. I think Andy's forehand is reasonaby strong and accurate, but often on his backhand he just slices it back in play with very little on it. This is where I guess the view that he's being too defensive comes from. I think to a degree his physique and his defensiveness on that side go hand in hand, when he beefs up his upper body I'm sure he'll begin to rip the ball more to be more offensive. Only time will tell (so long as he puts in the gym work).

federer express
08-20-2005, 09:29 PM
murray is a professional hacker. but he is that because he doesn't have the offensive weapons yet at this level...

mickymouse
08-20-2005, 09:32 PM
He needs to work on his build....he lacks the power and fitness to handle hard hitters

musefanatic
08-20-2005, 10:17 PM
I agree that he needs to work on his physical side but when he gets that sorted he will be amazing. He has the power to be with the big boys.

He's only 18 so he's got a few more years to get to the top of his game which he will do. Come on, he's gonna be top 100 for sure at the end of this year.

Leo
08-21-2005, 01:58 AM
Not sure if he has the power or mentality to reach the top.

kundalini
08-21-2005, 02:12 AM
Yes he is too defensive

Until he has the power and athleticism of the other players we won't have much idea how good he will be. From the looks of things that will take at least 2 years, possibly longer.

So next year he will charge up the rankings and then he will plateau until he has the basic power you need to compete will the big guys.

The power will come. But it will take time.

prima donna
08-21-2005, 02:38 AM
Wow ... just what Great Britain needed ... another frail and unathletic player, but I thought that Tim was their man for that ?

It would be nice if someone were to phone Tony Blair and make him aware (not that he doesn't have bigger concerns ... like terrorists) that it's 2005 and not 1965 please stop sending out these soft hitters that think tennis is still played with a wooden racquet and that it is all about dinks and volleying ....

federer express
08-21-2005, 02:41 AM
Wow ... just what Great Britain needed ... another frail and unathletic player, but I thought that Tim was their man for that ?

It would be nice if someone were to phone Tony Blair and make him aware (not that he doesn't have bigger concerns ... like terrorists) that it's 2005 and not 1965 please stop sending out these soft hitters that think tennis is still played with a wooden racquet and that it is all about dinks and volleying ....

lol

croat123
08-21-2005, 02:42 AM
here's his problem. he's what 6'1" or 2" and only weighs like 160 :o

ClaycourtaZzZz.
08-21-2005, 11:32 AM
here's his problem. he's what 6'1" or 2" and only weighs like 160 :o

nope, he's 136

ClaycourtaZzZz.
08-21-2005, 11:33 AM
Wow ... just what Great Britain needed ... another frail and unathletic player, but I thought that Tim was their man for that ?

It would be nice if someone were to phone Tony Blair and make him aware (not that he doesn't have bigger concerns ... like terrorists) that it's 2005 and not 1965 please stop sending out these soft hitters that think tennis is still played with a wooden racquet and that it is all about dinks and volleying ....


:rolleyes: he doesn't volley that much.

iliketennis
08-21-2005, 12:24 PM
Andy needs to loose some weight before he can reach his climax ;)

Dashers
08-21-2005, 12:28 PM
Wow, Andy really seems to be stirring people up who probably hadn't heard of him this time last year. I look forward to him irritating the hell out of you bunch in whingers in future years.

The tartan tennis invasion has started :devil:

stebs
08-21-2005, 12:54 PM
Wow ... just what Great Britain needed ... another frail and unathletic player, but I thought that Tim was their man for that ?

It would be nice if someone were to phone Tony Blair and make him aware (not that he doesn't have bigger concerns ... like terrorists) that it's 2005 and not 1965 please stop sending out these soft hitters that think tennis is still played with a wooden racquet and that it is all about dinks and volleying ....

you have no idea what you're talking about do you? clearly you've not watched him play as that sounds nothing like Murray.

ClaycourtaZzZz.
08-21-2005, 02:05 PM
you have no idea what you're talking about do you? clearly you've not watched him play as that sounds nothing like Murray.

:worship:

federer express
08-21-2005, 02:09 PM
you have no idea what you're talking about do you? clearly you've not watched him play as that sounds nothing like Murray.

the dinks actually sounds like him. and the point is its another british player that is not now nor will he ever be a particularly big hitter. apparently murray has played on clay most of his life. yet he couldn't be further removed from the kind of hitting most top clay courters produce. and the argument that he is young is crap.

Experimentee
08-21-2005, 02:27 PM
He pretty much tries to get the ball back into play with nothing on it, and wins when the opponent makes an error. That sort of play is good enough to get you through juniors, but wont cut it on the main tour. If you want to play like that, you have to be fit and athletic, which Murray is not.

federer express
08-21-2005, 02:29 PM
murray gets far too much attention on this board in my opinion for an 18 year old yet to do anything of real note or substance

ClaycourtaZzZz.
08-21-2005, 02:34 PM
blablabla. Think what you want!

federer express
08-21-2005, 02:35 PM
blablabla. Think what you want!

i was going to!

federer express
08-21-2005, 02:36 PM
another example of the hypocrisy on this board. murray is fine and liked, when he is clearly a less talented, weaker, slower and much more irritating version of lleyton hewitt!!

ClaycourtaZzZz.
08-21-2005, 02:39 PM
oh well:rolleyes:

bad gambler
08-21-2005, 02:40 PM
what a thread :lol:

musefanatic
08-21-2005, 06:20 PM
lol Bad gambler!

I was really surprised the first time i saw murray play, i'd heard a lot about him and was really excited and he is skinny etc but he can't half serve and hit the ball hard. Come on, he can serve 130 mph. That is good.