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hewitt-safin-federer a little rough around the edges.

Rex
08-18-2005, 11:00 AM
yeh- so they took time off and, of course hewitt did not want to- but he had the virus. Federer chose time off, and safin playing against medical advice.
What d'you think guys, are any of these three players confident in what they could do. i.e. win?????

its.like.that
08-18-2005, 11:09 AM
Please try not to put Hewitt in the same class as Federer or Safin.

yaasmeen
08-18-2005, 11:17 AM
Please try not to put Hewitt in the same class as Federer or Safin.

:haha: :haha:

i totally agree! (all of the Hewitt supporters soon will come to yell at us...but -- a great first comment) :worship:

Auscon
08-18-2005, 11:25 AM
Please try not to put Hewitt in the same class as Federer or Safin.

:haha: :haha:

i totally agree! (all of the Hewitt supporters soon will come to yell at us...but -- a great first comment) :worship:

:( IM NOT YELLING!!

:)

skel1983
08-18-2005, 11:25 AM
Please try not to put Hewitt in the same class as Federer or Safin.


Why not???? he is a grand slam winner?? what's your problem, who cares if you don't like Hewitt, the guy is a former GS winner who was at year end number 1 for consecutive years, he is rightly in the same class!!!!!

Anna777
08-18-2005, 11:27 AM
:lol: Good call.
Of course I think they have to have confidence if they even want to think about winning, but there'll always be some doubt in the back of their minds. A little time off just lets them chill.

Angle Queen
08-18-2005, 11:58 AM
How come Roddick's not the in group too...and he doesn't even have the excuse of "time off."

All four of the them needed three sets yesterday to prevail. I've said it over and over...tennis rewards repetition. So, yes, I think their collective absence has taken a bit of a toll.

They might be a little rusty, have an occasional mental lapse or confidence problem...but they still find a way to win. It should make the next few days quite interesting.

Nimomunz
08-18-2005, 12:20 PM
Why not???? he is a grand slam winner?? what's your problem, who cares if you don't like Hewitt, the guy is a former GS winner who was at year end number 1 for consecutive years, he is rightly in the same class!!!!!
its not about achievements hey marats achievements arent anyhting to call home about. its abiout the possession of raw talent that hewitt doesnt have. hewitt is a grinder which isnt necessarily a bad thing is not pure talent. and of course they are rusty. i just hope this makes the future atp race like next year much more interesting!

jmp
08-18-2005, 12:43 PM
Rex, I noticed this, too. I found it fascinating because Lleyton and Roger are usually extremely consistent. Marat's form is evident and he's pulling it together. He's more familiar with this happening to him, too. I'm interested in seeing if they are able to shake it off and improve with each match. Marat has a HUGE test today because his outdoor hard court record against Dominik is negative. *sending good vibes to Marat*

AQ, Andy isn't in the group because he hasn't totally lost focus for long stretches the way the other three mentioned have in their matches. His three setter against JCF was electrifying and very high quality throughout.

skel1983
08-18-2005, 12:45 PM
Well we are talking about the big players being rusty??? why are they big players????? whay are they top of the rankings??? because they have class, the post was don't put Hewitt in the same category as Safin or Federer, this is measured by why they are top of there games because they win big matches. Hewitt has not got the shot's of Safin or Federer but to say he isn't class, his class is measured on how he has done in his chosen sport and he has done aswell as anyone in his current era apart from Federer.

As for Safin he has probably under achived in his career so far, but to say he hasn't done much?????? Two GS and i think 4 TMS title's, there is probably about 999 other pro's or even more who would love to have this in the locker.

Angle Queen
08-18-2005, 01:02 PM
AQ, Andy isn't in the group because he hasn't totally lost focus for long stretches the way the other three mentioned have in their matches.:lol: Be sure to tell Debstah and the gang that.

His three setter against JCF was electrifying and very high quality throughout.Awesome. I recorded it last night and comtemplated taping over it with today's coverage...but saw the scoreline and figured it'd be worth watching. I'm glad I saved it and rustled up another tape.

oneandonlyhsn
08-18-2005, 01:38 PM
Federer chose time off

:scratch: Unless I'm very badly mistaken Fed was injured too, he didnt just decide to go skinny dipping

Of all the 4 guys, Andy is the only 1 that looks decent, he is winning his matches with more authority, Safin and Fed are just getting through. Hewitt is using his battling spirit to get through. Understandable since Roddick has played most of the summer and these guys havent

1sun
08-18-2005, 01:49 PM
no one comes close to federer or safin in the raw talent department, sum close in the results departement or better, ie hewitt, agassi,

lunahielo
08-18-2005, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by oneandonlyhsn
Of all the 4 guys, Andy is the only 1 that looks decent, he is winning his matches with more authority, Safin and Fed are just getting through. Hewitt is using his battling spirit to get through.

But the bottom line is~~~they are getting through!!
That's why they all are ranked as they are~~and they are all considered champions~~by most.

oneandonlyhsn
08-18-2005, 02:02 PM
But the bottom line is~~~they are getting through!!
That's why they all are ranked as they are~~and they are all considered champions~~by most.

Ditto, what matters is that big W beside their name, champions pull through even if they have to grind through their matches

Nimomunz
08-18-2005, 02:07 PM
W good for winner bad for bush!!

tangerine_dream
08-18-2005, 03:40 PM
They struggled but they won. Hence, why they are top players. :) Interesting to see that the remaining top four seeds are mirroring each other in their early rounds. Straight set wins in first round, hard-fought 3-set struggle in second round.

FIRST ROUND
(1)R Federer (SUI) d (WC)J Blake (USA) 76(3) 75
(3)L Hewitt (AUS) d I Andreev (RUS) 63 64
(4)M Safin (RUS) d (Q)J Hernych (CZE) 76(3) 64
(5)A Roddick (USA) d J Melzer (AUT) 63 64

SECOND ROUND
(1)R Federer (SUI) d N Kiefer (GER) 46 64 64
(3)L Hewitt (AUS) d G Rusedski (GBR) 16 75 64
(4)M Safin (RUS) d (WC)A Murray (GBR) 64 16 61
(5)A Roddick (USA) d J Ferrero (ESP) 67(3) 76(5) 62

its.like.that
08-18-2005, 04:28 PM
Why not???? he is a grand slam winner?? what's your problem, who cares if you don't like Hewitt, the guy is a former GS winner who was at year end number 1 for consecutive years, he is rightly in the same class!!!!!

I forgot that every slam winner is on even par, my mistake.

By the way, winning a slam has nothing to do with class.

Few players would have more class than Marcelo Rios, and he never won a slam.

Turkeyballs Paco
08-18-2005, 06:56 PM
Please try not to put Hewitt in the same class as Federer or Safin.

yawn... it's not a clear hewitt bashing thread, so let's make it one! :rolleyes:

lau
08-18-2005, 07:00 PM
yawn... it's not a clear hewitt bashing thread, so let's make it one! :rolleyes:
:haha:

oneandonlyhsn
08-18-2005, 07:08 PM
All this anti-Hewitt threads have made me a fan :lol:

lau
08-18-2005, 07:11 PM
All this anti-Hewitt threads have made me a fan :lol:
:secret: Not with Lleyton, but that happened to me with Nadal :smash:

oneandonlyhsn
08-18-2005, 07:19 PM
:secret: Not with Lleyton, but that happened to me with Nadal :smash:

:lol: its contagious, lau :mad: look what you did to me you turned me into a Rusty fan

Nimomunz
08-18-2005, 07:28 PM
:secret: Not with Lleyton, but that happened to me with Nadal :smash:
not a fan just an anti-anti-nadal person