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RAFA and Roger leading the way again. Record for most titles by a duo in one year.

NYCtennisfan
08-17-2005, 05:57 AM
Both Fed and Rafa are having amazing years which inspired me to create this thread. There is a big difference between the years 1973-1984 and then afterwards. You don't see duos winning all the tournaments anymore like you used to because the depth of the men's game has increased so much and the titles are all spread around to different players, but Rafa and Federer are changing that this year--they will not make it to 26, but they can definitely reach 20. OUt of all the top 30 duos (those who have won at least 17 titles between them), 17 of them are from the 70's, 10 are from the 80's, 2 are from the 90's and 1 from the 2000's. A duo has combined to win 20 or more tournaments 10 times before. A duo has BOTH won 10+ tournaments only twice before. A player had to win a minimum of 4 titles in a year to get on the list.

PLAYERS..............................# of wins............YEAR

Vilas (16)/Borg (10)........................26...................1 977
Vilas (16)/Connors (7).....................23...................1977
Federer(11)/Nadal (11)....................22....................2005
Lendl (15)/Connors (7)....................22...................1982
Connors (14)/Borg (7).....................21...................1974
Vilas (16)/Gottfried (5)....................21...................1977
Borg(11)/J. McEnroe (10)................21..................1979
Connors (14)/Laver (6)...................20...................1974
Lendl (15)/Clerc (5)........................20...................19 82
Lendl (15)/J. McEnroe (5)................20...................1982
Lendl (10)/J. McEnroe (9)................19...................1981
Lendl (15)/Noah (4)........................19....................1 982
Lendl (15)/Wilander (4)...................19....................1982
Lendl (11)/J. McEnroe (8)................19....................1985
Muster (12)/Agassi (7)....................19....................1995
Nastase (14)/Connors (4)................18....................1972
Nastase (12)/Connors (6)................18....................1973
Connors (12)/Borg (6).....................18....................1976
Connors (12)/vilas (6).....................18....................1976
Connors (10)/Borg (8).....................18....................1978
J. McEnroe (13)/Connors (5)............18....................1984
Federer (12)/Blake (5)....................17....................2006
Federer (12)/Davydenko (5).............17...................2006
Federer (12)/Nadal (5)....................17....................2006
Connors (9)/Ashe (8)......................17....................197 5
Borg (10/Connors (7)......................17....................197 7
Connors (10/Vilas (7)......................17....................197 8
J. McEnroe (10)/Connors (7).............17....................1979
J. McEnroe (13)/Gomez (4)...............17....................1984
J. McEnroe (13)/Nystrom(4)..............17....................1984
Muster (12)/Sampras (5)..................17....................1995
__________________________________________________ _______________

TOP DUOS BY YEAR

PLAYERS..............................# of wins............YEAR

Connors (14)/Borg (6)......................21....................197 4
Connors (9)/Ashe (8).......................17....................19 75
Connors (12)/Borg (6)......................18....................197 6
Connors (12)/vilas (6)......................18....................197 6
Vilas (16)/Borg (10..........................26................... .1977
Connors (18)/Borg (8)......................18....................197 8
Borg (11)/J. McEnroe (10).................21....................1979
J. McEnroe (8)/Borg (7)....................15....................1980
J. McEnroe (8)/Lendl (7)...................15....................1980
Lendl (10)/J. McEnroe (9).................19....................1981
Lendl (15)/Connors (7).....................22....................1982
Wilander (8)/Lendl (7)......................15....................198 3
Wilander (8)/J. McEnroe (7)..............15....................1983
J. McEnroe (13)/Connors (5).............18....................1984
Lendl (11)/J. McEnroe (8).................19....................1985
Lendl (9)/Becker (6)........................15....................1 986
Lendl (8)/Edberg (7)........................15....................1 987
Becker (8)/Wilander (6)....................14....................1988
Becker (8)/Agassi (6).......................14....................19 88
Lendl (10/Becker (5)........................15....................1 989
Edberg (7)/Lendl (5)........................12....................1 990
Edberg (7)/Becker (5)......................12....................199 0
Edberg (6)/Forget (6)......................12....................199 1
Courier (5)/Becker (5)......................10....................199 2
Courier (5)/Sampras (5)....................10....................1992
Sampras (8)/Muster (7)....................15.....................1993
Sampras (10)/Berastegui (7)..............17....................1994
Muster (12)/Agassi (7).....................19....................1995
Sampras (8)/Muster (7)....................15.....................1996
Sampras (8)/Chang (5).....................13.....................199 7
Rios (7)/Rafter (6)...........................13.................. ...1998
Agassi (5)/Sampras (5)/Norman (5).....10.....................1999
Safin (7)/Guga (5)............................12................. ....2000
Safin (7)/Norman (5)........................12..................... 2000
Guga (6)/Hewitt (6)..........................12................... ..2001
Agassi (5)/Hewitt (5)........................10..................... 2002
Federer (7)/Roddick (6).....................13.....................200 3
Federer (11)/Roddick (4)....................15.....................2004
Federer (11)/Hewitt (4).....................15.....................200 4
Federer (11)/Nadal (11).....................22.....................20 05
Federer (12)/Blake (5).......................17.....................2 006
Federer (12)/Davydenko (5)...............17.....................2006
Federer (12)/Nadal (5)......................17.....................20 06
Federer (8)/Nadal (6)........................14..................... 2007
Nadal (8)/Murray (5)........................13..................... 2008
Murray (6)/Nadal (5).........................11.................... .2009
Murray (6)/Djokovic (5).....................11.....................200 9
Murray (6)/Davydenko (5)..................11.....................2009
Nadal (7)/Federer (5).........................12.................... 2010
Djokovic (10)/Murray (5)....................15.....................2011

World Beater
08-17-2005, 06:01 AM
Federer has a better chance to reach 10, but it would be hard pressed for Nadal

NYCtennisfan
08-17-2005, 06:11 AM
I think their total will equal 20 by year's end. If Federer does win 2 more titles, he will join a very elite group that has won 10+ titles in back to back years. That group includes Nastase (12 in '72, 14 in '73) and Lendl (10 in '81, 15 in '82). They are the only ones. Connors did have an impressive stretch of 14, 9, and 12 wins from '74-'76.

megadeth
08-17-2005, 06:13 AM
both can break the record for most TMS in a year. they each just need to win 1 more.

roger can do that in cincy, while it would be great for nadal to get the one in madrid in front of the home crowd.

... i'm beginning to wonder if they will indeed hog all the TMS. hehe 6 out of 9 so far!

NYCtennisfan
08-17-2005, 06:23 AM
^9 out of 9 would be just stunning. I don't think it will happen though. 6 out of 9 is pretty selfish of those guys as it is :)

JeNn
08-17-2005, 06:33 AM
Thanks for this thread, it's very unique and interesting :D

I think it is possible they could hog all the TMS tourneys.

Roger has a huge chance to makes it 7 out of 9 this week and Rafa could win Madrid - its not that fast.

Paris will be the hard one - that's Marat territory :devil:

Also another interesting stat is that if Roger wins this week then all over the Masters-Series, Grand Slams and TMC will currently be held by 3 men.

Federer - Wimbledon, US Open, TMC, Indian Wells, Miami, Hamburg, Cincinatti
Nadal - Roland Garros, Monte Carlo, Rome, Montreal
Safin - Australian Open, Madrid, Paris

I think that would be pretty rare also :eek:

oneandonlyhsn
08-17-2005, 06:57 AM
Thanks for this thread, it's very unique and interesting :D

I think it is possible they could hog all the TMS tourneys.

Roger has a huge chance to makes it 7 out of 9 this week and Rafa could win Madrid - its not that fast.

Paris will be the hard one - that's Marat territory :devil:

Also another interesting stat is that if Roger wins this week then all over the Masters-Series, Grand Slams and TMC will currently be held by 3 men.

Federer - Wimbledon, US Open, TMC, Indian Wells, Miami, Hamburg, Cincinatti
Nadal - Roland Garros, Monte Carlo, Rome, Montreal
Safin - Australian Open, Madrid, Paris

I think that would be pretty rare also :eek:

:eek: great observation

propi
08-17-2005, 10:11 AM
In 1994 Alberto Berasategui got 7 titles Athens, Montevideo, Nice, Palermo, Santiago, Stuttgart Outdoor, Umag; if I'm not wrong that's more than 6 from Chang

RogiFan88
08-17-2005, 02:55 PM
Thanks for this thread, I was wondering about such a rivalry for titles won in one year too!

We mustn't forget Marat, who shines at the indoor tourneys -- he has Madrid AND Paris [his fave] to defend.

I still want to see a Nadal/Safin matchup.

name_change
08-17-2005, 02:55 PM
i find it funny that though sampras and agassi were considered greatest rivals during their careers, the both of them never dominated together.

liptea
08-17-2005, 04:23 PM
NYCTennisfan is one of my favorites. How do you think of these things? :hug:

ys
08-17-2005, 05:12 PM
Bother to give us Navratilova/Evert stats? Graf/Seles stats?

NYCtennisfan
08-17-2005, 06:07 PM
NYCTennisfan is one of my favorites. How do you think of these things?

But I'm no liptea :) Luckily, I have the ATP database that I use in my freetime at work i.e. the time when everyone goes home and I stay late but I take a 20 minute break and eat something and fiddle with the database:)

NYCtennisfan
08-17-2005, 06:08 PM
In 1994 Alberto Berasategui got 7 titles Athens, Montevideo, Nice, Palermo, Santiago, Stuttgart Outdoor, Umag; if I'm not wrong that's more than 6 from Chang

Thanks propi. :) I will make the change. For some reason I was remembering Alberto only having won 5 times that year.

NYCtennisfan
08-24-2005, 08:12 PM
Fed and Nadal up to 18 after Fed's win in Cincy.

jazz_girl
08-24-2005, 08:36 PM
Vilas :worship:

Whistleway
08-24-2005, 08:56 PM
Also another interesting stat is that if Roger wins this week then all over the Masters-Series, Grand Slams and TMC will currently be held by 3 men.

Federer - Wimbledon, US Open, TMC, Indian Wells, Miami, Hamburg, Cincinatti
Nadal - Roland Garros, Monte Carlo, Rome, Montreal
Safin - Australian Open, Madrid, Paris

I think that would be pretty rare also :eek:

Talk about stats. This one is mind blowing. Great stuff, JeNn !!

blosson
08-24-2005, 08:57 PM
1977 was a bad year for all players other than Vilas and Borg. They didn't leave any titles left...

Whistleway
08-24-2005, 09:00 PM
1977 was a bad year for all players other than Vilas and Borg. They didn't leave any titles left...

hehe. except Connors who had 7 (see, the second one)

NYCtennisfan
08-24-2005, 09:10 PM
Way back when the tour was a mess. You would harldy ever see the top layers playing together at the same time. THe TMS has been a blessing for the tour.

RogiFan88
08-24-2005, 09:35 PM
Vilas :worship:

I agree! ;)

WF4EVER
08-25-2005, 12:38 AM
I noticed there were only two years when the players both got to double figures in title wins, 1977 and 1979. I believe barring injury Nadal and Federer should be able to accomplish this feat as well even if they won't pass the record # of titles won collectively.

NYCtennisfan
09-13-2005, 04:08 AM
Fed and Nadal up to 19. I think they'll get to 21 or 22 by year's end.

mangoes
09-13-2005, 04:16 AM
Cool..................that's really nice and I have a feeling those two are going for even more next year.

NYCtennisfan
09-13-2005, 04:22 AM
Cool..................that's really nice and I have a feeling those two are going for even more next year.

That's going to be really, really tough because I don't see Roger winning 10 titles again. I really think he is going to concentrate on the Slams from here on out like Sampras did. If he wants to try to get anywhere near 14, he is going to have to win at least 3 or 4 in the next two years and he needs to save his energy to do that.

MisterQ
09-13-2005, 04:43 AM
i find it funny that though sampras and agassi were considered greatest rivals during their careers, the both of them never dominated together.

This is an interesting thread.

It seems like many of these pairs are between a player who excels on faster surfaces and one who excels on clay -- like Federer/Nadal, or Agassi/Muster, for example. When you have two hardcourt greats like Agassi/Sampras, even in a year where they both were in great form, like 1995, they often met in the finals and thus only one of them could contribute to the duo's total.

Purple Rainbow
09-13-2005, 04:52 AM
That's going to be really, really tough because I don't see Roger winning 10 titles again. I really think he is going to concentrate on the Slams from here on out like Sampras did. If he wants to try to get anywhere near 14, he is going to have to win at least 3 or 4 in the next two years and he needs to save his energy to do that.

I think Federer already was concentrating on the slams this year. He played only one tournament as a preparation for the AO, Wimbledon and the US Open. He didn't stretch his body by playing Mickey Mouse tournaments. Federer took a break after Wimbledon to rest his feet, thus missing the opportunity to win a few more hard court titles.
Mind you, Roger has only played 13 tournaments so far this year. Who's to say he can't have such a 10/13 record again next year at this time? Few people seriously expected Roger to match or even eclipse 2004, but despite winning "only" 2 slams, he proved all the experts wrong.

Scotso
09-13-2005, 05:00 AM
You left the bottom one in there, at 17.

Interesting thread, btw :)

NYCtennisfan
09-13-2005, 05:17 AM
I think Federer already was concentrating on the slams this year. He played only one tournament as a preparation for the AO, Wimbledon and the US Open. He didn't stretch his body by playing Mickey Mouse tournaments. Federer took a break after Wimbledon to rest his feet, thus missing the opportunity to win a few more hard court titles.
Mind you, Roger has only played 13 tournaments so far this year. Who's to say he can't have such a 10/13 record again next year at this time? Few people seriously expected Roger to match or even eclipse 2004, but despite winning "only" 2 slams, he proved all the experts wrong.

What I mean by taking Sampras' approach is that he probably won't put as much effort into the smaller tournies which mean he won't win as many tournies. Playing 90+ matches every year will wear him down way before it should.

This year and last year by Federer are quite simply the greatest 2 years in the Open Era by anyone in my opinion because the depth of today's game makes these numbers truly tremendous.

NYCtennisfan
09-13-2005, 05:19 AM
You left the bottom one in there, at 17.

Interesting thread, btw

Just corrected the mistake. Thanks:)

megadeth
09-13-2005, 05:43 AM
I think Federer already was concentrating on the slams this year. He played only one tournament as a preparation for the AO, Wimbledon and the US Open. He didn't stretch his body by playing Mickey Mouse tournaments. Federer took a break after Wimbledon to rest his feet, thus missing the opportunity to win a few more hard court titles.
Mind you, Roger has only played 13 tournaments so far this year. Who's to say he can't have such a 10/13 record again next year at this time? Few people seriously expected Roger to match or even eclipse 2004, but despite winning "only" 2 slams, he proved all the experts wrong.
he can further improve his schedule by letting go of thailand and basel just like gstaad this year.

he should just limit it to 14 tourneys, give or take a few
4 slams, 9 masters, 1 masters cup

and probably 2-3 other tourneys to add instead (dubai and halle).

by the way, roger played 2 events this year to prepare for AO. the other one was kooyong, but it's not credited as a pro event...

Purple Rainbow
09-13-2005, 06:18 AM
What I mean by taking Sampras' approach is that he probably won't put as much effort into the smaller tournies which mean he won't win as many tournies. Playing 90+ matches every year will wear him down way before it should.

This year and last year by Federer are quite simply the greatest 2 years in the Open Era by anyone in my opinion because the depth of today's game makes these numbers truly tremendous.

Interesting point, but what do you seriously suggest Roger should do? You can't expect him to lose early in tournaments to prevent injuries? Besides, Roger doesn't play small tourneys. He plays Grand Slams, Masters tournaments and the IS gold events. The occasional small tourney he plays (Halle) is in preparation for a Grand Slam.
Roger knows when to take a break to prevent overstretching his body, as his time out after Wimbledon showed, even if it means he can't defend his Cincy title.

Btw, I love the stats things you are doing! :) Remember your thread about the best 100 matches record. Roger is know coming scarely close to improving to 96-4 and a 12-game-or-so winning streak could take him to 97-3! :eek:

NYCtennisfan
09-18-2005, 09:27 PM
Fed and Rafa now have 20 together. ONly the third time two players have both won 10+ titles each.

amierin
09-18-2005, 10:02 PM
Word is Rafa is not going to make the South American tour in 2006 so he's probably going to concentrate on TMS, the Slams, and a few smaller tourneys. If he's doing this at his age he'll be around a long time.

nobama
09-18-2005, 10:55 PM
Word is Rafa is not going to make the South American tour in 2006 so he's probably going to concentrate on TMS, the Slams, and a few smaller tourneys. If he's doing this at his age he'll be around a long time.My guess is Rafa will play more hard court events next year and fewer on clay. He's already proven what he can do on clay and I'm sure he'd like to prove he can compete well on a regular basis on hard courts too.

NYCtennisfan
09-18-2005, 11:46 PM
He'll concentrate on Indian Wells so he can make a push for #1 which he will have a shot at if he does really at the AO next year and Fed falters.

NYCtennisfan
10-02-2005, 04:58 PM
Federer and Nadal move up the list.

NYCtennisfan
10-02-2005, 05:14 PM
Federer adds to his totals. He is also tied with himself and Borg and Lendl at 9th in single season titles. A truly remarkable achievement in the TMS era.

Vilas (1977)........................16
Lendl (1982).......................15
Connors (1974)...................14
Nastase (1972)...................14
McEnroe (1984)..................13
Connors (1976)...................12
Nastase (1973)...................12
Muster (1995)....................12
Federer (2005)....................11 and counting
Federer (2004)....................11
Borg (1979)........................11
Lendl (1985).......................11

nobama
10-02-2005, 08:34 PM
Federer adds to his totals. He is also tied with himself and Borg and Lendl at 9th in single season titles. A truly remarkable achievement in the TMS era.

Vilas (1977)........................16
Lendl (1982).......................15
Connors (1974)...................14
Nastase (1972)...................14
McEnroe (1984)..................13
Connors (1976)...................12
Nastase (1973)...................12
Muster (1995)....................12
Federer (2005)....................11 and counting
Federer (2004)....................11
Borg (1979)........................11
Lendl (1985).......................11Do you by chance have the W/L%? I know Mac only lost 3 matches in '84, but not sure about the others.

Sjengster
10-02-2005, 09:11 PM
mirkaland, go to the Statistics forum. That's what my thread in there (one of them) is for...

nobama
10-02-2005, 09:28 PM
Found it, cheers. I can see Roger having more than 82 wins this year, but only three losses is doubtful. Even still the W/L ratio is :eek:

uNIVERSE mAN
10-02-2005, 11:13 PM
he can further improve his schedule by letting go of thailand and basel just like gstaad this year.

he should just limit it to 14 tourneys, give or take a few
4 slams, 9 masters, 1 masters cup

and probably 2-3 other tourneys to add instead (dubai and halle).

by the way, roger played 2 events this year to prepare for AO. the other one was kooyong, but it's not credited as a pro event...

He gets a big appearance fee for Thailand and Basel is his home tournament, he will not be dropping either of them.

NYCtennisfan
10-03-2005, 01:15 AM
Found it, cheers. I can see Roger having more than 82 wins this year, but only three losses is doubtful. Even still the W/L ratio is

Fed's accomplishments in the age of better overall depth and in the TMS era is astounding. 9 of the 14 tournaments he has played in have included a field of the best 20 players in the world give or take a few out with injuries. Nobody pre-1990 could claim this on their schedules. The only place where even a half-dozen of the top players would be gathered were in the Slams and Davis Cup and an odd WCT event or two.

nobama
10-03-2005, 11:25 AM
Fed's accomplishments in the age of better overall depth and in the TMS era is astounding. 9 of the 14 tournaments he has played in have included a field of the best 20 players in the world give or take a few out with injuries. Nobody pre-1990 could claim this on their schedules. The only place where even a half-dozen of the top players would be gathered were in the Slams and Davis Cup and an odd WCT event or two.Yeah I wondered about this with some of the stats put up by these guys in the 70's/early 80's. I don't know how it's possible when you're playing the best week-in/week-out.

NYCtennisfan
10-03-2005, 03:21 PM
^It's a completely different thing. One thing is for sure: ither than the slams, the players in the old days certainly didn't play the best or in tournies that included the 20 best on each of the surfaces. Vilas in his streak never played Borg and played Connors once albeit at the USO (which was on clay that year).

NYCtennisfan
10-23-2005, 06:20 PM
Nadal and Federer up to 22 wins now. This is the first time that two players have both won at least 11 titles in one year.

mishar
10-23-2005, 06:42 PM
Rafa must be the only person (except Vilas in 77?) to win 10plus titles and not end the year at #1?

tangerine_dream
10-23-2005, 07:04 PM
Roger and Rafa have hogged up all the Masters shields for themselves this year too. Clearly, they live by the credo that Greed is good! ;)

I wonder if their private party will be bust up in Paris?

Pfft. Nah. :p

NYCtennisfan
10-23-2005, 07:47 PM
^I really think someone else will win Paris. Man, what would the odds be at the beginning of the year if you someone said that two players would win all 9 TMS events and 3 of the 4 slams?

NYCtennisfan
10-23-2005, 07:49 PM
Rafa must be the only person (except Vilas in 77?) to win 10plus titles and not end the year at #1?

John McEnroe won 10 in 79 but Borg was number one. When Lendl won 15 titles in 82, McEnroe was #1.

Clara Bow
10-23-2005, 07:58 PM
I wonder if their private party will be bust up in Paris?


I think it will be because I doubt at this point that either will play.

Since Marat and Lleyton will be out as well from what I understand- I think Paris will go to either Ivan or Andy- either which will make me happy.

Regardless, it has been exciting for me to watch two players take 4 Master's each- and on different surfaces.

NYCtennisfan
10-23-2005, 08:05 PM
Ivan, Roddick, maybe Blake or a total surprise contender. If Nadal is having difficulty with tendanitis, it is hard for me to believe that he would play Paris.

Saumon
10-23-2005, 09:32 PM
I wish Marat could win in Bercy again, he would become the 1st guy to win there 2 years in a row and to win it 4 times :cool: plus he's already in Rafa's and Rogi's lil private club with his AO title :p

NYCtennisfan
10-23-2005, 09:58 PM
It'd be nice to see Marat in Bercy but alas....

Saumon
10-23-2005, 10:01 PM
It'd be nice to see Marat in Bercy but alas....
please dont say that, i want to see him there :sad:

NYCtennisfan
10-08-2006, 04:33 PM
bump

RonE
10-08-2006, 04:59 PM
Well this year the balance between them has slightly shifted when it comes to splitting titles between them.

Johnny Groove
10-08-2006, 05:05 PM
this year, they hogged all the slams, but let Robredo take Hamburg ala Berdych at Paris last year. And Cincinnatti was a throwback to the 00-03 ATP tour, when anybody could win any tourney any week.

madrid- Nadal
Paris- Nadal
Shanghai- Nadal

:yeah:

CmonAussie
10-08-2006, 05:13 PM
this year, they hogged all the slams, but let Robredo take Hamburg ala Berdych at Paris last year. And Cincinnatti was a throwback to the 00-03 ATP tour, when anybody could win any tourney any week.

madrid- Nadal
Paris- Nadal
Shanghai- Nadal

:yeah:
Madrid ~ Federer:p
Paris ~ Nadal:cool:
Shanghai ~ Federer:worship:

Merton
10-08-2006, 05:13 PM
The balance appears to have changed, but a more careful look reveals that Nadal's record on clay was 26-0 this year vs. 50-2 in 2005.

TennisGrandSlam
10-08-2006, 05:32 PM
this year, they hogged all the slams, but let Robredo take Hamburg ala Berdych at Paris last year. And Cincinnatti was a throwback to the 00-03 ATP tour, when anybody could win any tourney any week.

madrid- Nadal
Paris- Nadal
Shanghai- Nadal

:yeah:

impossible! :devil:


Madrid - Federer or Nadal
Paris - Safin or Ljubo
Shanghai - Federer

TennisGrandSlam
10-08-2006, 05:39 PM
Rafa must be the only person (except Vilas in 77?) to win 10plus titles and not end the year at #1?


Ivan Lendl (1982, 15) - Delray Beach WCT, Genoa WCT, Munich WCT, Strasbourg WCT, Frankfurt, Houston, Dallas WCT, Forest Hills WCT, Washington, North Conway, Cincinnati, L.A. WCT, Naples WCT, Hartford WCT, Masters

Bjorn Borg (1977, 11) - Memphis, Nice, Monte Carlo WCT, Denver, Wimbledon, Pepsi Grand Slam, Madrid, Barcelona, Basel, Cologne, Wembley

Jimmy Connors (1973, 11) - Baltimore, Roanoke, Salt Lake City, Salisbury, Hampton, Paramus, Boston, Columbus, Quebec, L.A., Johannesburg

John McEnore (1979, 10) - New Orleans, Milan, San Jose, Dallas WCT, Queens, South Orange, US Open, San Francisco, Stockholm, Wembley

Ivan Lendl (1981, 10) - Stuttgart Indoor, Las Vegas, Montreal, Madrid, Barcelona, Basel, Vienna, Cologne, Buenos Aires, Masters

NYCtennisfan
10-08-2006, 05:43 PM
The balance appears to have changed, but a more careful look reveals that Nadal's record on clay was 26-0 this year vs. 50-2 in 2005.

Yes. Nadal didn't play the clay tournies after Wimbly and the ones after the AO. If he did, he would probably be at 7 or 8 titles now not mentioning that he was injured at the beginning of the year.

DrJules
10-08-2006, 06:45 PM
Federer (9)/Nadal (5).......................14.....................2 006

Although small in number comparatively, the quality of titles compares favourably with any of the other pairs in the list; 4 grands slams and 5 master series.

stebs
10-08-2006, 07:28 PM
Although small in number comparatively, the quality of titles compares favourably with any of the other pairs in the list; 4 grands slams and 5 master series.

And, I would bet on that being at least 16 by the end of the year.

cmurray
10-08-2006, 08:31 PM
I guess I didn't think of it this way...2 guys winning EVERYTHING. And as someone pointed out, Rafi was injured for the first part of the year. Simply amazing.

NYCtennisfan
10-08-2006, 09:02 PM
And, I would bet on that being at least 16 by the end of the year.

Yup, I think 16 or 17 will probably be the final # they wind up with. :D

stebs
10-08-2006, 09:08 PM
Yup, I think 16 or 17 will probably be the final # they wind up with. :D

Although it is entirely possible that Rafa could win Stockholm, Federer could win Basel and the pair could clean up Paris, Madrid and Shanghai which would leave them with a very tidy 19.

Johnny Groove
10-08-2006, 09:10 PM
they're both playing basel, so i see no reason why one of them cant win it

NYCtennisfan
10-08-2006, 09:12 PM
Although it is entirely possible that Rafa could win Stockholm, Federer could win Basel and the pair could clean up Paris, Madrid and Shanghai which would leave them with a very tidy 19.

Definitely a possibility.

NYCtennisfan
11-19-2006, 08:13 PM
Three different duos make up the title leading duo for the year.

NYCtennisfan
03-03-2007, 04:51 PM
Even though Nadal has not won a title yet, I think he will be the 2nd leading title earner on tour this year. Federer amazingly has a chance at 10+ titles for the 4th consecutive year.

NYCtennisfan
08-20-2007, 06:02 PM
Federer and Nadal leading the way again although they will do well to get to about 16 this year.

stebs
08-20-2007, 06:24 PM
Federer and Nadal leading the way again although they will do well to get to about 16 this year.

Nadal has 6 and Federer 5 right? I think between them USO, 1 AMS, TMC and two optionals is not beyond them.

Most likely number is 15 I think but 16 is far frim improbable.

Johnny Groove
08-20-2007, 06:32 PM
Nadal has 6 and Federer 5 right? I think between them USO, 1 AMS, TMC and two optionals is not beyond them.

Most likely number is 15 I think but 16 is far frim improbable.

So they have 11 now.

12- USO

Tokyo should be a lock for Fed for 13

Bangkok for Nadal isnt as much a lock, but we'll be optimistic, 14.

Madrid one of them will win for sure, 15.

then Basel, Paris perhaps, Shanghai, who knows :shrug:

FedFan_2007
08-20-2007, 07:15 PM
Federer could still finish at 8105 ranking points if he wins Bercy.

NYCtennisfan
09-17-2007, 03:24 AM
Bump

FedFan_2007
09-17-2007, 05:26 AM
Each has 6 titles now/

Rogiman
09-17-2007, 06:59 AM
Still nowhere near their 2005 tally...

FedFan_2007
09-17-2007, 03:18 PM
2005's haul of 22 titles will never happen again.

CmonAussie
09-17-2007, 03:30 PM
2005's haul of 22 titles will never happen again.


yeah & if should have been 24-titles, since FED choked @ AO [vs Safin] & TMC [vs Nalbandian]:sad:

The_Nadal_effect
09-17-2007, 04:16 PM
yeah & it should have been 24-titles, since FED choked @ AO [vs Safin] & TMC [vs Nalbandian]:sad:

If Nalby and Safin of the yore ever came back, FEd might choke again.

BTW, NYCT, nice thread! :yeah:

NYCtennisfan
09-19-2007, 01:51 AM
If Nalby and Safin of the yore ever came back, FEd might choke again.

BTW, NYCT, nice thread! :yeah:

16 will be a very, very good total for these guys this year.

Marek.
09-19-2007, 06:08 AM
yeah & if should have been 24-titles, since FED choked @ AO [vs Safin] & TMC [vs Nalbandian]:sad:

How exactly did he choke? In the AO match he played a silly shot on MP but Safin played great to get back in the match. Plus in the fifth set he gave it everything but Safin was just better. Against Nalbandian he was one or two points away from being 5-0 down in the fifth but somehow got to 6-5 30 love. Nalbandian played four great points in a row to get the break and played the tie-break even better. It's not like Fed can win every match.

Sorry for the rant but I'm in a bad mood so I came here. :angel: ;)

NYCtennisfan
12-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Fed and Nadal wind up with 13 together. We'll probably see the same number +/- 1 next year.

Merton
12-20-2007, 12:18 AM
^This is quite likely if they both stay healthy.

Richard_from_Cal
12-20-2007, 12:33 AM
Aaaah, 1977. It was a very good year. (For Guillermo.--:devil:)

I remember Bud Collins, being embarrassed on PBS, as the same face turned up in final after final, that summer. :D

Nice piece of research, NYCtennisfan! Thanks!!

NYCtennisfan
12-20-2007, 12:39 AM
Aaaah, 1977. It was a very good year. (For Guillermo.--:devil:)

I remember Bud Collins, being embarrassed on PBS, as the same face turned up in final after final, that summer. :D

Nice piece of research, NYCtennisfan! Thanks!!

The match he played against Connors at the USO was one of, if not THE, finest of his career.

Merton
12-20-2007, 12:45 AM
It is interesting that Borg failed to win in NYC even when the event was held on green clay.

NYCtennisfan
12-20-2007, 01:19 AM
It is interesting that Borg failed to win in NYC even when the event was held on green clay.

In fact he got dominated by Connors at a time when he was dominating Connors. He just never played all that well there, but he must be given credit since he only lost to Connors and Jmac, two of the three greatest players ever at the USO.

calvinhobbes
12-20-2007, 01:54 AM
Fed and Nadal wind up with 13 together. We'll probably see the same number +/- 1 next year.

I believed Roger won eight and Rafa six. That would make fourteen.
Where am I wrong?

NYCtennisfan
12-20-2007, 06:41 AM
I believed Roger won eight and Rafa six. That would make fourteen.
Where am I wrong?

Forgot about the TMC. :)

Richard_from_Cal
12-20-2007, 03:44 PM
It is interesting that Borg failed to win in NYC even when the event was held on green clay.You know how he hated to play under lights.

Traditionalist in that way. :)

NYCtennisfan
09-11-2008, 02:41 AM
Nadal and Djoko/Del Potro lead the way this year.

Pigpen Stinks
09-11-2008, 03:04 AM
Much more equitable year in terms of titles, but still a dominance in point totals at the top of the rankings.