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Robredo/Ferrer ... New Doubles Team for Davis Cup ???

Alvarillo
08-15-2005, 07:56 PM
I'm 99% that David and Tommy are playing together in Cincy in order to prepare the play-offs against Italy.
JCF and Rafa will probably play singles with Tommy as a doubles especialist. I think these 3 will be in Italy for sure.
And the 4th ... i think David deserves to play in the team after his excellent season, and has some doubels titles.

And they just have beaten one of the top teams, Etlis/Rodriguez 64 67 61 :D

Deivid23
08-15-2005, 08:49 PM
I think Nadal will play also in doubles and I hope Verdasco will be his partner

propi
08-15-2005, 10:20 PM
I will be happy enough if I have the chance to see Tommy on Davis Cup squad again this year :p
Same goes for Feliciano he's one of the best in fast courts :)

Nimomunz
08-15-2005, 11:10 PM
I think Nadal will play also in doubles and I hope Verdasco will be his partner
he cant do everything its not fair to the other trillion of spanish players!!

savesthedizzle
08-16-2005, 02:28 AM
I don't see how playing on hard courts would be preparation for them to play together on clay for Davis Cup. Plus, Tommy has played doubles with pretty much everyone Spanish at some point or another.. He played doubles with Rafa last week in Montreal... a much more likely DC team in my opinion. Plus the only reason Tommy is playing with David here is because Rafa didn't want to. They were originally going to play together here too.

Scotso
08-16-2005, 02:49 AM
Yep. I'm sure they're playing together because Rafael didn't feel like playing doubles.

~EMiLiTA~
08-16-2005, 08:11 AM
I think Nadal will play also in doubles and I hope Verdasco will be his partner

I don't think Rafa will play doubles...he'll just focus on singles and they'll put others into the doubles eg robredo and ferrer

Alvarillo
08-16-2005, 09:02 AM
yes but Rafa won't play 3 5set matches. i'm sure and Robredo will be in the doubles for sure...
and if he's playing with David .... i think is the clue!

Deivid23
08-16-2005, 09:11 AM
I don't think Rafa will play doubles...he'll just focus on singles and they'll put others into the doubles eg robredo and ferrer

yes but Rafa won't play 3 5set matches. i'm sure and Robredo will be in the doubles for sure...
and if he's playing with David .... i think is the clue!


Let´s see, imo Nadal will outgun Seppi in 3 sets on Friday and will likely play next day also.

Kat!
08-16-2005, 12:17 PM
I thought JCF is not playing DC this year...? @@

Galaxystorm
08-16-2005, 01:44 PM
I think Robredo-Ferrer in Cincy is a trial for Davis Cup.

The best doubles player in Spain nowadays is Nadal, without no doubt

I think the spanish captains has a very big dilemma about if Nadal should play only singles or also doubles but with the worry of Nadal's physical condition for sunday matches..

The two best doubles players in Spain according to the results are Nadal and Ferrer, even they were gonna play together in Umag because Arrese asked them to play together , and that was gonna be another trial for Davis Cup but Nadal pulled out ..... I look forward to watching a doubles composed of Rafa and David , i think they can be a very good couple .

I have never liked a lot the doubles Rafa&Tommy because i had the feeling they were two good " singles " players playing together a doubles match and not a real team playing coordinated ..

In my opinion Rafa plays more comfortable with Feliciano and Verdasco than with Robredo , although i always prefer Verdasco as partner and not Feli because he's a very lazy player, apathetic and it has to be very hard to play with him when he has his typical " bad " day when showing he would be more happy being in a beach ..

I'm among the persons who think the best potential double in Spain is Nadal-Verdasco.

I guess the four picks will be : Nadal, Robredo , Ferrero , Ferrer . I'm not sure that Kitzbuhel final will be enough for Vedascado gets to take a spot in the DC team against Italy....Maybe if Ferrero has a weeding that weekend ( a very likely fact :devil: ) Verdasco will have his oportunity ...

And the elected doubles would be Nadal-Robredo with a lot of chances and less for Nadal-Ferrer.

lilfairyprincess
08-16-2005, 01:48 PM
when is spain's davis cup matches against italy? *sorry i'm too lazy to go look it up*

Galaxystorm
08-16-2005, 01:58 PM
I thought JCF is not playing DC this year...? @@

Moya decided to pull of spanish davis team during this year , but Ferrero not..

In the first Davis cup tie this year against Slovak Republic , Ferrero prefered to prepare Indian Wells and Miami instead of playing that tie, showing his lack of commitment with spanish team.

Deivid23
08-16-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm among the persons who think the best potential double in Spain is Nadal-Verdasco.


I´m starting to like your style :yeah:

vincayou
08-16-2005, 03:43 PM
Oh no, I have double vision, I see Deivid posting twice more.

Kat!
08-16-2005, 03:51 PM
In the first Davis cup tie this year against Slovak Republic , Ferrero prefered to prepare Indian Wells and Miami instead of playing that tie, showing his lack of commitment with spanish team.

ah yes I remember now - in a Marca article at the time he said he won't play the Slovak Republic tie to prepare for IW & Miami and get his ranking up (given his form at the time it's questionable whether he would play singles anyway - let's not go there), but he didn't rule out future ties provided that Spain wins the first round.... hmmm....


when is spain's davis cup matches against italy? *sorry i'm too lazy to go look it up*

http://www.daviscup.com
it's on the first page.

Galaxystorm
08-16-2005, 04:22 PM
ah yes I remember now - in a Marca article at the time he said he won't play the Slovak Republic tie to prepare for IW & Miami and get his ranking up (given his form at the time it's questionable whether he would play singles anyway - let's not go there), but he didn't rule out future ties provided that Spain wins the first round.... hmmm.....


Ferrero and Robredo, both showed a lack of commitment as i said before.

They knew it was a very awkward tie to play in Slovak Republic on a indoor carpet, to play in a tie with very few chances to win and they egoisticly thought it was more easy and comfortable to stay at home preparing american masters series while the four " dumbs " Nadal , Feli , Verdasco and Costa were grinnig and bear it on the Slovak supersonic court .

If i was spanish captains, Ferrero and Robredo would be several ties penalized without being among the elected players..

savesthedizzle
08-16-2005, 05:47 PM
Ferrero and Robredo, both showed a lack of commitment as i said before.

They knew it was a very awkward tie to play in Slovak Republic on a indoor carpet, to play in a tie with very few chances to win and they egoisticly thought it was more easy and comfortable to stay at home preparing american masters series while the four " dumbs " Nadal , Feli , Verdasco and Costa were grinnig and bear it on the Slovak supersonic court .

If i was spanish captains, Ferrero and Robredo would be several ties penalized without being among the elected players..


For the record, Robredo WAS just coming back from a shoulder injury at the time. I believe he was even still injured, so penalizing him for not wanting to further a shoulder injury is a little ridiculous.

Deivid23
08-17-2005, 10:16 PM
Ferrero and Robredo, both showed a lack of commitment as i said before.

They knew it was a very awkward tie to play in Slovak Republic on a indoor carpet, to play in a tie with very few chances to win and they egoisticly thought it was more easy and comfortable to stay at home preparing american masters series while the four " dumbs " Nadal , Feli , Verdasco and Costa were grinnig and bear it on the Slovak supersonic court .

If i was spanish captains, Ferrero and Robredo would be several ties penalized without being among the elected players..

:yeah:

Deivid23
08-17-2005, 10:18 PM
For the record, Robredo WAS just coming back from a shoulder injury at the time. I believe he was even still injured, so penalizing him for not wanting to further a shoulder injury is a little ridiculous.

He was fit enough to reach a SF on hc...

Galaxystorm
08-18-2005, 10:08 AM
For the record, Robredo WAS just coming back from a shoulder injury at the time. I believe he was even still injured, so penalizing him for not wanting to further a shoulder injury is a little ridiculous.

Your post just needs a word as answer : Dubai

Action Jackson
08-18-2005, 11:23 AM
I love the fact that Ferrero was whining and he had a face like he got no presents from Santa Claus after Spain won the DC in Sevilla, he couldn't handle sharing the limelight.

Robredo wasn't that injured to be able to play a tournament. At the same time as long as the best team is picked that's what counts.

RogiFan88
08-18-2005, 01:52 PM
It s be all Nadal all the time... forget those other guys.

Scotso
08-19-2005, 01:55 AM
they won again today... yay :bounce:

cleverdutchclogs
08-19-2005, 02:03 AM
I'm 99% that David and Tommy are playing together in Cincy in order to prepare the play-offs against Italy.

I like the conspiracy theory!

LaTenista
08-19-2005, 05:19 AM
I've been to all the Febredo (Ferrer/Robredo) matches in Cincy this week so far, they are a good team and seem to get along well. David seems better in the back of the court while Tommy is better with the volleys/net play.

Has Ferrer ever played DC? I'm beginning to think he's even invisible in his own country. If they even attempt to offer the 2nd singles spot to anyone but him first, it would be a slap in the face. If I can work up the nerve to talk to David tomorrow, I'll definitely ask him about the tie in Italy.

Deivid23
08-19-2005, 05:47 AM
Has Ferrer ever played DC? I'm beginning to think he's even invisible in his own country. If they even attempt to offer the 2nd singles spot to anyone but him first, it would be a slap in the face. If I can work up the nerve to talk to David tomorrow, I'll definitely ask him about the tie in Italy.

I can think of at least two players that are above him in possibilities for the 2nd spot. If Ferrero makes himself available, he will play, and if he doesn´t Verdasco will likely do it. Some people can think Ferrer would be a better option instead of Verdasco, but I heavily disagree

Action Jackson
08-19-2005, 05:51 AM
Has Ferrer ever played DC? I'm beginning to think he's even invisible in his own country. If they even attempt to offer the 2nd singles spot to anyone but him first, it would be a slap in the face. If I can work up the nerve to talk to David tomorrow, I'll definitely ask him about the tie in Italy.

Ferrer isn't in that good of form at the moment, that's the thing. If the tie was played before Wimbledon then I could see the case for him being included to play singles, but at the moment I don't think he will be considered as a candidate for the singles, unless there are injuries.

LaTenista
08-19-2005, 02:51 PM
Verdasco is too much of a headcase. Not to mention WTF has he been doing the last two weeks, he didn't come to Montreal or Cincy to try to qualify? Ferrer will at least fight til the end and not mentally breakdown. I'd normally be pro Ferrero but he couldn't even close out a match against Roddick this week.

Who are the singles players for Italy? Volandri and Seppi? I think Feli could beat Filippo.

According to Judio, next week Ferrer will be No 18, firming up his position as the 2nd highest ranked Spaniard in singles.

But more than likely Rafa will win his 2 singles matches and as long as Robredo plays doubles I'd say that's a Spain win as well so all this talk about the 2nd singles player may turn out to a complete not factor.

~EMiLiTA~
08-19-2005, 03:06 PM
If I can work up the nerve to talk to David tomorrow, I'll definitely ask him about the tie in Italy.

if u get a chance, do talk to him...he's a really nice guy!!

Deivid23
08-19-2005, 03:07 PM
Phew, too many things I disagree... Let´s get started:

Verdasco is too much of a headcase. Not to mention WTF has he been doing the last two weeks, he didn't come to Montreal or Cincy to try to qualify? Ferrer will at least fight til the end and not mentally breakdown. I'd normally be pro Ferrero but he couldn't even close out a match against Roddick this week.


Verdasco showed a great attitude in his first match in DC against Hrbaty in Slovakia. He lost in 4 sets, playing good tennis and in 2 of the sets he lost he was up a break so he had good chances at winning it. Hrbaty played incredibly well and he was a deserved winner, but Fernando proved he can perfectly be a great DC player cause he showed a great attitude and motivation.

About that JCF quote, you say that as if not winning a match against Roddick on hc, in USA was a major dissapointment... :shrug:



Who are the singles players for Italy? Volandri and Seppi? I think Feli could beat Filippo.

:lol: @ LaLo beating Volandri on clay in Italy. Stop drinking.

According to Judio, next week Ferrer will be No 18, firming up his position as the 2nd highest ranked Spaniard in singles.

So what? Arrese has never based his decisions on rankings.

But more than likely Rafa will win his 2 singles matches and as long as Robredo plays doubles I'd say that's a Spain win as well so all this talk about the 2nd singles player may turn out to a complete not factor.

Verdasco would win Seppi as he did earlier this year or Starace and that would be enough