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Hard court season 2005 , 'll there be any surprises?

nermo
08-02-2005, 07:52 PM
well, it's coming again, Montreal, Cinnci., US open and others,...

'll there be new names coming with surprises, 'll some conventional results disappear , or 'll it be the same ?
what do u think, and whose names do u want to see achieving new successes there?..Discuss :)

Saumon
08-02-2005, 07:54 PM
the big surprise will be that roger wont play :devil:

David Kenzie
08-02-2005, 07:55 PM
I'd like to see Gasquet show us something on the hardcourts :)

GonzoFan
08-02-2005, 08:02 PM
I really want Gonzo to do some great things on hardcourt season

Papakori
08-02-2005, 08:12 PM
I really want Gonzo to do some great things on hardcourt season
I second that :)

revolution
08-02-2005, 08:24 PM
Gonzalez I hope, at Wimbledon he did so well and some good results will hopefully result in a deserved TMC spot.

Ginepri has had a good start to the season and I think he might do well at the USO providing he doesn't face someone like Agassi last year.

Ferrero, he doesn't have much to defend after losing 2nd round, and he could go deep, he reached the final before, so why can't he go far again?

I hope Kuerten can do well here as it's sad to see him in 288 in the world, he is much better than that and I've always liked his game. If he gets a good draw then perhaps he could do something.

Also Puerta I hope can win some matches, he's a committed player and if it wasn't for fatigue he would have played a full grass court season. His power game might suit the court surface possibly.

tangerine_dream
08-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Robby Ginepri will win the US Open. :p

Sjengster
08-02-2005, 10:36 PM
Well in terms of winners, I except one of Hewitt, Roddick or Agassi to win Montreal in Federer's absence. And it feels so good...

DanEd
08-02-2005, 10:46 PM
Both Chucho Acasuso and Gaudio will win one match :)

Sjengster
08-02-2005, 10:48 PM
I have to say, I wouldn't mind it at all, but I'll eat my hat if Chucho gets past a single first round in the three big events.

disturb3d
08-02-2005, 10:50 PM
Both Chucho Acasuso and Gaudio will win one match :)Gaudio has the goods to produce one or two slow-hardcourt titles.

Julio1974
08-02-2005, 11:26 PM
I hope that Nalbandian can finally win a big tournament on hard courts. He has already rechaed the final in Montreal and in Madrid, and SF in US Open and Cincinatti.

NYCtennisfan
08-02-2005, 11:45 PM
Robby Ginepri will win the US Open.

MTF will explode if this happens.

KoOlMaNsEaN
08-02-2005, 11:51 PM
Roger is supposedly injured so it would be a surprise still if he loses in new york or cincy

LaTenista
08-03-2005, 01:43 AM
Gaudio has the goods to produce one or two slow-hardcourt titles.

There is nothing slow about Cincy's courts. And trust me, it's like 95 degrees here so they are playing even faster than usual.

I am very impressed by Gaudio's results on clay, however it dismays me when so far this year he has only won 5 matches off that surface. Avoiding a certain GS like the plague doesn't rate highly either. :o

I think Gasquet and Nadal could shake things up a bit but I don't see them winning any titles this year. Thomas Johansson is a dangerous floater.

Havok
08-03-2005, 01:49 AM
Haas starts to find his form again :o. He had a great 2004, I think started fairly decent this year but has been sucking for a while now. Stp please, and win some matches in Montreal next week so I can watch you live.:p

Deivid23
08-03-2005, 07:53 AM
Hopefully Nadal will shut many mouths..... again

Action Jackson
08-03-2005, 07:56 AM
Gaudio, Chucho and Puerta will win 1 match.

Nadal will still infuriate people and that some posters will say Montreal or Cincy is a clay court.

Deivid23
08-03-2005, 08:01 AM
Gaudio, Chucho and Puerta will win 1 match.

Nadal will still infuriate people and that some posters will say Montreal or Cincy is a clay court.

Nadal may become a worse thing than greenhouse effect... many of the hardcourts in the world would be claimed as clay if he succeed there

MariaV
08-03-2005, 08:01 AM
Hopefully Nadal will shut many mouths..... again
Hope so too Deivid. :)

And I hope Marat can put in some decent performances after a long layoff and surprise us with another title after a while. ;) Sorry I just had to join in here. :o

heya
08-03-2005, 08:03 AM
A smart player from the top 10 wins & doesn't tank again against Federer.

Action Jackson
08-03-2005, 08:03 AM
Nadal may become a worse thing than greenhouse effect... many of the hardcourts in the world would be claimed as clay if he succeed there

For sure, he is worse than weapons of mass destruction, the non-signing of Kyoto and the greenhouse effect combined.

Purple clay courts that would be fun to see.

MariaV
08-03-2005, 08:04 AM
Nadal will still infuriate people and that some posters will say Montreal or Cincy is a clay court.
:haha: :haha: :tape: OK, I'll keep away from here then.

nermo
08-03-2005, 08:45 PM
i hope that Nalbandian can finally win a big tournament on hard courts. He has already rechaed the final in Montreal and in Madrid, and SF in US Open and Cincinatti.posted by julio1974
i think he has the abilities, but 'll he win one of them this year??hope so too :)

Gaudio, Chucho and Puerta will win 1 match.posted by GWH
Agree, Coria Reaching third Rounds 'll make a big surprise too,
Ginepri 'll have true tests in a short while,he can make some noise, but not that much i guess ..

Hopefully Nadal will shut many mouths..... again posted by Deivid23
:angel: this'll make the biggest happiest surprise for me, ...

Merton
08-03-2005, 09:42 PM
Nadal may become a worse thing than greenhouse effect... many of the hardcourts in the world would be claimed as clay if he succeed there

Why would a good performance by Nadal in hard courts be a surprise? Australian Open and Miami were hardcourts, no? I am sorry if i miss some old discussions since i am new in this board.

enqvistfan
08-03-2005, 09:51 PM
I hope Fernando Gonzalez will confirm his latest results and hope Carlos Moya will be back on top during the US Tourney.

Buena suerte chicos !!!

tennis4eva
08-04-2005, 04:18 AM
What about Luis Horna? He can be dangerous when he's not beating himself over the head with his racquet.....

Action Jackson
08-04-2005, 04:42 AM
What about Luis Horna? He can be dangerous when he's not beating himself over the head with his racquet.....

I'd love him to do well, but consistency isn't a strong point for Horna.

Action Jackson
08-04-2005, 04:43 AM
i think he has the abilities, but 'll he win one of them this year??hope so too :)

Agree, Coria Reaching third Rounds 'll make a big surprise too,
Ginepri 'll have true tests in a short while,he can make some noise, but not that much i guess .. ...

Coria has already shown he can play well on hardcourt and as long as he is fit, he will show it again.

revolution
08-04-2005, 04:55 AM
Coria has already shown he can play well on hardcourt and as long as he is fit, he will show it again.

Yes he will. A couple of years ago he was cutting players to pieces at Cincy, Henman was one of them too.

tennis4eva
08-04-2005, 05:29 AM
I'd love him to do well, but consistency isn't a strong point for Horna.
Same here, but as you said......he's quite unpredictable. He did, however, manage to take out Hrbaty today! :cool:

Action Jackson
08-04-2005, 06:05 AM
Same here, but as you said......he's quite unpredictable. He did, however, manage to take out Hrbaty today! :cool:

Yes, he can do that, but he has to qualify for the TMS events and is liable not to qualify for them as do well.

I'll bump the frustrating player thread for you and Horna has a mention there.

Deivid23
08-04-2005, 09:21 AM
Why would a good performance by Nadal in hard courts be a surprise? Australian Open and Miami were hardcourts, no? I am sorry if i miss some old discussions since i am new in this board.

AO and Miami are the new clay, didn´t u know?

Action Jackson
08-04-2005, 09:26 AM
:haha: :haha: :tape: OK, I'll keep away from here then.

The sad thing is I am very serious.

nermo
08-04-2005, 10:05 AM
AO and Miami are the new clay, didn´t u know?posted by Deivid 23

;) sometimes, truth is hard to be seen..(unless it is repeated )

Coria has already shown he can play well on hardcourt and as long as he is fit, he will show it again.posted by GWH
that's right, butdo u think he 'll get past quarter finals, ??

T.johansson, Srichaphan, Gilles Muller...it's time to make some noise ..agree?? :)

Merton
08-04-2005, 04:49 PM
:eek: AO and Miami are the new clay, didn´t u know?

I see... So if Nadal does well in other hard courts, it will be only because they were clay courts in disguise :eek:

Now seriously, i see Nadal getting similar odds with Roddick in the all-win markets. That means he is expected to do well and it will not be a surprise if he does.

revolution
08-04-2005, 07:29 PM
If the AO is clay why wasn't Gaudio et al in the latter stages? Of course Nadal's results on HC have been decent so far, although RA is slower than Decoturf.

Merton
08-04-2005, 09:10 PM
... although RA is slower than Decoturf.

That is a valid point, but players that do well on RA tend to do well on Decoturf and vice-verca.

nermo
08-06-2005, 06:25 AM
The Rogers cup draw is out, it is not helping Gaudio , Puerta nor Coria that much to make surprises...no?
Roddick has got a chance ...

Action Jackson
08-06-2005, 06:27 AM
The Rogers cup draw is out, it is not helping Gaudio , Puerta nor Coria that much to make surprises...no?
Roddick has got a chance ...

Are you kidding? Gaudio has quite a good draw actually. Doesn't mean he'll take advantage of it.

Coria can play on hardcourts, he has showed it before, so how is it going to be surprising?

What Roddick doing well on a hardcourt? Are you trying to be funny that this is surprising.

NYCtennisfan
08-06-2005, 06:41 AM
Coria will have some problems because he has been playing a lot of tennis on clay and will have played probably the entire week on clay right before before the tournament. It will be a tough adjustment and he will probably be tired. I still think he takes out JCF in the first round. Gaudio would have to play pathetically not to make it to the third round.

Action Jackson
08-06-2005, 06:55 AM
Coria will have some problems because he has been playing a lot of tennis on clay and will have played probably the entire week on clay right before before the tournament. It will be a tough adjustment and he will probably be tired. I still think he takes out JCF in the first round. Gaudio would have to play pathetically not to make it to the third round.

It depends on which qualifier Gaudio gets, they aren't usually gimps at TMS level.

Coria will do alright overall during the hardcourt swing, he'll probably be better in Cincinatti than Montreal.

iliketennis
08-06-2005, 07:03 AM
Gaston has a major mental issue with hardcourts. There is no major weakness that would prevent him from doing too well on the surface. His serve may not be speedy, but it is very accurate. And, despite what people will say about his forehand, it is solid.

Action Jackson
08-06-2005, 07:05 AM
Gaudio serves too many double faults, as for his forehand some people don't have much of an idea if they can't see his forehand is more offensive than it used to be.

iliketennis
08-06-2005, 07:08 AM
And as for his sexy backhands......

NYCtennisfan
08-06-2005, 07:42 AM
Coria will do alright overall during the hardcourt swing, he'll probably be better in Cincinatti than Montreal.

I have really liked what I have seen from Coria at Wimbledon and in his Davis Cup match with Hewitt. He taking the ball earlier than what I have seen from him before. It will be a bit easier on the hardcourts for him and he will be no pushover to deal with.

Action Jackson
08-06-2005, 07:45 AM
I have really liked what I have seen from Coria at Wimbledon and in his Davis Cup match with Hewitt. He taking the ball earlier than what I have seen from him before. It will be a bit easier on the hardcourts for him and he will be no pushover to deal with.

It's not like Coria can't play on a hardcourt, but even if he wins a major hardcourt title, he'll still get that stupid claycourt specialist label. He has beefed up his serve and always places it well, the thing is that he will make more errors as he has become more offensive, but he is far from a soft touch, though he might need to improve his return game against big servers.

ugotlobbed
08-06-2005, 07:47 AM
roger will play us open from what his fan letter says

NYCtennisfan
08-06-2005, 09:36 AM
but he is far from a soft touch, though he might need to improve his return game against big servers.

Did you see him against Roddick at Wimbledon? He returned his serve better than anyone other than King Federer of course, especially after the 1st set when Roddick's serve is usually most dominant. It bodes well for him for the hardcourt season.

Action Jackson
08-06-2005, 09:37 AM
Did you see him against Roddick at Wimbledon? He returned his serve better than anyone other than King Federer of course, especially after the 1st set when Roddick's serve is usually most dominant.

What does 1 match prove? Doesn't it have to happen more than once.

nermo
08-06-2005, 05:26 PM
Are you kidding? Gaudio has quite a good draw actually. Doesn't mean he'll take advantage of it.
Coria can play on hardcourts, he has showed it before, so how is it going to be surprising?
What Roddick doing well on a hardcourt? Are you trying to be funny that this is surprising.posted by GWH
as for Coria , the term "surprise" differs in use for us: iknow Coria has been doing well on hard courts, but( surprise for me) means winning the title , cuz first he 'll have to defeat big guys like Hewitt as an example??
Gaudio has good chances regarding first matches, but i think Gaudio has a personal inside problem with hard or grass courts so u 'll never know whether he'll get over it and use his abilities... puerta is the least among them with lucky draw...

as for Roddick's statement, what is surprising, Roddick doing good on hard courts wih an easy draw or me trying to be funny??
:) :devil:

Action Jackson
08-09-2005, 12:17 PM
Puerta and Gaudio have won their 1 hardcourt match and now it only needs Acasuso to win his.

RonE
08-09-2005, 01:57 PM
Nalbandian has been flying rather low and undetected by the radar, but I think he could prove to be one of the more dominant factors in the upcoming 2 TMS events and the U.S. Open. While I don't know how much I would bank on him to win any of these events given his past performances in the closing stages of big events, I do think he can make it deep in all of them if not some. I think the DC performance against Hewitt in Australia could prove to be the catalyst in retrospect and so far he seems to be in rather good nick if his match against Chela is of any indication.

For me, David is going to be the "dark horse" for the hardcourt summer swing and I think by the time September is over he might very well be back in the top 10.

Action Jackson
08-09-2005, 02:01 PM
I just hope Nalbandian can find some form of consistency, though with him expect anything.

RonE
08-09-2005, 02:10 PM
Just a thought. He might prove me right, then again he may lose his next three matches. As you say, expect the unexpected.

Nadal will be interesting. This is his chance to show that he can win the titles on hard courts as well and he has had some very good results this year on the surface. I don't see a problem with his earlier rounds for the most part I think he will win those handily (unless he bumps into a big power hitter who has an out-of-this-world performance) but the question is how will he fair against the Federers, Roddicks, Hewitts, Nalbandians and Safins on their day on this surface were he to meet them at the later stages. And yes, I am fully aware of how close he came to beating Hewitt and Federer at AO and Miami respectively. That makes it a very interesting point to ponder and I for one hopes he does meet the players aforementioned in some if not all of the upcoming events.

Action Jackson
08-09-2005, 02:13 PM
Nadal well that's the thing to the average humanoid they will start saying how rubbish he is, when they don't see the same results on clay.

As for Nadal he'll do consistently well enough in the future, but even then people will whine and say Montreal/Cincinatti and the US Open are clay, to run down any good performances he has.

nermo
08-09-2005, 05:43 PM
yes, the worst thing about nalbandian is his lack of consistency..hope he can get over it ,

Younes el aynaui..gives us a Comeback surprise too!!..defeated F.lopez 2 straight sets..7/6, 6/3... :)

LaTenista
08-09-2005, 05:51 PM
Coria and Nalbandian have the opporunity to pick up lots of points next week in Cincy, since both withdrew from the tournament last year. Interestingly, in 2003 both reached the QFs there. Birds of a feather flock together? :scratch:

Action Jackson
08-10-2005, 06:21 AM
Younes winning a match at a TMS after all his problems.

Gaudio and Puerta lasting longer in a hardcourt tournament than Roddick is surprising.

oneandonlyhsn
08-10-2005, 06:31 AM
ToJo to win US Open remember this peeps

Puschkin
08-10-2005, 07:52 AM
For me, David is going to be the "dark horse" for the hardcourt summer swing and I think by the time September is over he might very well be back in the top 10.

My thoughts, exactly, but on the other hand I have predicted great things for him more than once and they never materialised fully.

But there are two matches I have been longing to see throughout the year.

1. Marat/Nadal and 2. David/Roger, all four at their best of course ;) .

fleur137
08-10-2005, 07:58 AM
Ferrero, he doesn't have much to defend after losing 2nd round, and he could go deep, he reached the final before, so why can't he go far again?
let's hope that he does one better than 2003 ne?

RonE
08-10-2005, 08:46 AM
Roddick out :eek: I must admit I didn't see that one coming especially considering he came off a win in Washington.

Action Jackson
08-10-2005, 08:49 AM
Roddick out :eek: I must admit I didn't see that one coming especially considering he came off a win in Washington.

Definitely counts as surprising.

nermo
08-10-2005, 04:41 PM
Paul henri Mathieu defeating Roddick at first round..is the biggest surprise up till now,..
well, following ones to come soon ... if Puerta goes further than third round.. :scratch:
if El aynaoui managed to go further..tough test today..as a beginning

LaTenista
08-10-2005, 05:15 PM
Agassi will be the only seed to make it to the QFs in the bottom half of the draw.

nermo
08-10-2005, 09:17 PM
Gaudio has just won his second match on hard court..score seemed tough,may be, he wants to do something and take his chances this time..

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 07:07 AM
This just gets funnier Gaudio and Puerta making the quarters of a TMS event on hardcourt. I wonder how many people will say this is clay now in Montreal.

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 09:18 AM
Gaudio, Chucho and Puerta will win 1 match.

Nadal will still infuriate people and that some posters will say Montreal or Cincy is a clay court.

Well Rafa, Gaudio and Puerta are in the quarters of Montreal, so it must be clay.

nermo
08-12-2005, 11:06 AM
Well Rafa, Gaudio and Puerta are in the quarters of Montreal, so it must be clay.posted by GWH

imagine what 'll it be if Gaudio defeated Agassi today? ;)

silverwhite
08-12-2005, 11:53 AM
Well Rafa, Gaudio and Puerta are in the quarters of Montreal, so it must be clay.

Don't forget Paul-Henri. Another claycourter there, I tell you, which makes half of the quarterfinalists claycourters.

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 12:36 PM
Don't forget Paul-Henri. Another claycourter there, I tell you, which makes half of the quarterfinalists claycourters.

Paulo has won a tournament indoors on carpet, so I don't classify him truly as someone who has been demonised as a claycourt specialist.

nermo
08-12-2005, 12:57 PM
which makes half of the quarterfinalists claycourters.posted by silverwhite

these results make it looks really strange, why ppl. refuse to believe that ("clay courters"-with the apology to GWH :o ) can't make good results on hard courts, those who have speed , good and powerful strokes,and sometimes can attack short shots , can really make good results on hard courts..Ferrero, Moya were good examples few years ago, and this tourney proves it so far...

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 01:01 PM
these results make it looks really strange, why ppl. refuse to believe that ("clay courters"-with the apology to GWH :o ) can't make good results on hard courts, those who have speed , good and powerful strokes,and sometimes can attack short shots , can really make good results on hard courts..Ferrero, Moya were good examples few years ago, and this tourney proves it so far...

I could tell you why this is, but I don't have all day to explain it. Don't forget even the ones have done well previously are just "claycourt specialists", misusing the term is fun.

But Miami and Montreal are claycourts with a different colour.

nermo
08-12-2005, 01:14 PM
But Miami and Montreal are claycourts with a different colour.posted by GWH

Got ur point.. :cool:

i think Paul henri Mathieu has got the physical abilities to give better results on fast courts ,the minuses are inconsistency and running out of logical mental thinking at big shots ..loss of confidence may be :cool:

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 01:40 PM
i think Paul henri Mathieu has got the physical abilities to give better results on fast courts ,the minuses are inconsistency and running out of logical mental thinking at big shots ..loss of confidence may be :cool:

Read the frustrating players thread and Mathieu definitely has some mention in this elite group.

He should be better indoors really, and yes he has won 2 events on carpet. Personally I don't think he is that good, but he showed some of his potential this week.

A TMS quarter final listing with Beck, Mathieu, Gaudio and Puerta ( on fast surfaces) is surprising and even Rusedski to an extent could be classified as a surprise.

Aguante_el_Gato
08-12-2005, 01:57 PM
Well Rafa, Gaudio and Puerta are in the quarters of Montreal, so it must be clay.:haha: :haha: ( ;) )

Neely
08-12-2005, 02:13 PM
Well if Gaudio and Puerta beating Carlsen, Sanguinetti, Horna and Pavel on hardcourt is rated as a surprise, lots of surprises happened already this week with their QF appearance.
Beck? Yes, it's a surprise to see him so deep in a Masters. Same for Mathieu who is also more a stranger to that stage.

Nadal isn't a surprise with "only" a quarterfinal so far. He has shown in the past the he respects all surfaces and performs well on hardcourt, and that he can even beat the hottest players (like Federer, Ljubicic) there. And most of all, not too long ago he already registered a Masters final on the surface already.

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 02:19 PM
Come on Neely, everyone knows Gaudio and Puerta are hopeless on a hardcourt and any match they win it's a surprise or they have changed the surface to clay as for Nadal, well he is like the above 2 mentioned just an alleged claycourter with no rights to be winning matches off clay and Miami is the new clay.

Neely
08-12-2005, 02:26 PM
Come on Neely, everyone knows Gaudio and Puerta are hopeless on a hardcourt and any match they win it's a surprise or they have changed the surface to clay
Sure, therefore it's a surprise, even more if they win three in a row! :cool: I agree :smoke:

silverwhite
08-12-2005, 03:28 PM
Paulo has won a tournament indoors on carpet, so I don't classify him truly as someone who has been demonised as a claycourt specialist.

He's more comfortable on clay. Therefore, he MUST be a claycourter. ;)

silverwhite
08-12-2005, 03:30 PM
these results make it looks really strange, why ppl. refuse to believe that ("clay courters"-with the apology to GWH :o ) can't make good results on hard courts, those who have speed , good and powerful strokes,and sometimes can attack short shots , can really make good results on hard courts..Ferrero, Moya were good examples few years ago, and this tourney proves it so far...

You thought I was serious? :o

Action Jackson
08-12-2005, 03:33 PM
I thought you considered him a claycourter. :confused:

In any case, before this week, a lot of people on the board considered him one. Therefore, there are still four claycourters in the QFs. :banana:

Well I only use the term claycourter in it's proper context unlike a lot of people. But for the sake of this 4 of them in quarters is cool.

silverwhite
08-12-2005, 03:35 PM
Well I only use the term claycourter in it's proper context unlike a lot of people. But for the sake of this 4 of them in quarters is cool.

Yes. I didn't phrase my post clearly (I meant that you considered him one of those whom people label a claycourter in the wrong context, if that makes sense). Edited now. ;)

nermo
08-12-2005, 05:16 PM
You thought I was serious? posted by Silver white

Nein Silver, not you... :)

well, Paul h.Mathieu is the first semi finalist here... :D

Deivid23
08-14-2005, 12:17 PM
Hopefully Nadal will shut many mouths..... again


*avatar speaks for itself*

nermo
08-15-2005, 07:45 AM
well, so ,there have been some nice surprises,some players took their chances on hard courts and they had good runs apart from clay, ex: Puerta, Gaudio..Nadal got his first hard court title.. :)
Paul Henri Mathieu, got some good results..new achievements adds more competition and fun to the game...

Any thoughts for Cinncinati??

Action Jackson
08-15-2005, 08:01 AM
Yes. I didn't phrase my post clearly (I meant that you considered him one of those whom people label a claycourter in the wrong context, if that makes sense). Edited now. ;)

Big Paulo had an excellent tournament and good to see the surprises this week, but Nadal winning on a fast hardcourt, though it's really clay.

Gaudio playing well in patches, then getting punished for lapses against one of the best hardcourters in history, when people think he is just a gimp.

A great week.

vincayou
08-15-2005, 09:58 AM
Puerta and PHM were much bigger surprises than Gaudio and Nadal. I wonder if PHM will be able to sustain the level of play he showed this week. Gaudio was not far from Agassi, the match was very close.

Action Jackson
08-15-2005, 10:01 AM
Puerta and PHM were much bigger surprises than Gaudio and Nadal. I wonder if PHM will be able to sustain the level of play he showed this week. Gaudio was not far from Agassi, the match was very close.

You mustn't read these boards very closely if you think Gaudio making the quarters of a TMS on hardcourt isn't surprising. He is a no-talent fraud and should only play on clay, and if he wins a match off clay, it's because they changed the surface.

The match wasn't that close with Agassi, pure and simple Gaudio respects Agassi too much on court, he might as well ask for his autograph, he had chances and Agassi played the big points better.

silverwhite
08-15-2005, 12:42 PM
You mustn't read these boards very closely if you think Gaudio making the quarters of a TMS on hardcourt isn't surprising. He is a no-talent fraud and should only play on clay, and if he wins a match off clay, it's because they changed the surface.


Well, some of us read the boards very closely but make our own judgements. ;)

Action Jackson
08-18-2005, 11:03 AM
Well Acasuso has fulfilled my goal of winning a match on hardcourts, so well he has managed to do it twice and has a big chance for the quarters.

Action Jackson
08-19-2005, 07:17 AM
Acasuso in the quarter finals of a TMS event on hardcourt is surprising, considering he has never done it in a clay TMS.

silverwhite
08-19-2005, 10:41 AM
Acasuso in the quarter finals of a TMS event on hardcourt is surprising, considering he has never done it in a clay TMS.

I'll admit, I'm really surprised. :lol:

LaTenista
08-19-2005, 03:28 PM
What is surprising is Acasuso is the only South American in the Cincy QFs, and there are 3 Russians in the QF, don't think the latter has ever happened before.

LaTenista
08-19-2005, 03:30 PM
No Spaniards made it past the 3rd round this year whereas in 2004 Moya QFed and Robredo SFed here. Ferrero SFed in 2002.

gillian
08-19-2005, 03:54 PM
The biggest surprise for me is that Nalbandian isn't playing better.

Denaon
08-19-2005, 04:00 PM
I agree with you gillian, my exact thought. I expected David to play much better both TMS....:shrug:

nermo
08-19-2005, 05:33 PM
well, Nalbandian not playing better is a little bit disappointing but not as much called surprising for me ,the guy can easily compete for winning a good position in the race of top greatest inconsistent players.. :cool: :shrug:

Acasuso is surely a surprise..,but i guess,and no offense, his draw offered him a good chance so far...it's good he used it successfully.. :)

, Ferrero's results are a little bit of a bad surprise, :o right?

as for russians, Davydenko and Youzhny going further than quarter finals 'll be surprising..

Action Jackson
08-25-2005, 09:20 AM
Well the US Open is coming up and hopefully the surprises will multiply, but then again one can never tell.

nermo
08-26-2005, 11:03 PM
thanks to the draw, there'll be some interesting matches..and some new names can really have a chance to make surprises and find a way to go far..

+alonso
08-26-2005, 11:08 PM
Yes! definitely South American will make some noise here
Vamos Paul :D

nermo
08-26-2005, 11:23 PM
Yes! definitely South American will make some noise here
Vamos Paul posted by Lt alonso Cl

true..., besides..if paul henri mathieu preserves his level at Roger's..he can make some good results.. :)
monfils can add some credits to himself as well..

Action Jackson
08-27-2005, 09:07 AM
Acasuso or Horna will make the 2nd round.

+alonso
08-27-2005, 07:10 PM
Capdeville CHI v. Mathieu FRA

Vamos Vamos Capdeville :rocker2:

mitalidas
08-27-2005, 08:58 PM
roddick will beat at least one top 10 player in the US Open

and yes, that qualifies as a surprise. ESPN reports that "In 19 career Grand Slams appearances, Roddick beat only one top 10 player -- Juan Carlos Ferrero in the 2003 Open final."

nermo
08-27-2005, 09:18 PM
ESPN reports that "In 19 career Grand Slams appearances, Roddick beat only one top 10 player -- Juan Carlos Ferrero in the 2003 Open final."posted by mitalidas

Ohh, that's the real surprise,.. any way, he won't be able to defeat any 10 top player till he meets one, i guess not until semifinal..either Agassi or Nadal..right?..it's a way to go..

last chance for Nalbandian..For Coria too :mad: , though i guess he won't use it

NYCtennisfan
08-27-2005, 09:49 PM
Technically it qualifies as a surprise but I don't think anyone will be surprised unless that top 10 player is the King himself.

Sjengster
08-27-2005, 11:10 PM
Interesting stat, I never realised... of course, both of his first two Slam QFs he lost at the US Open, and never got the chance to meet a Top 10 player in any other Slam (and of course Sampras was seeded 17 when he lost to him in 2002). Here are his other QF/SF victims at Slams since then:

AO 03 - El Aynaoui (seeded to be Hewitt)
Wimbledon 03 - Bjorkman (seeded to be Hewitt)
US Open 03 - Schalken (seeded to be Schuettler), Nalbandian (seeded to be Federer)
Wimbledon 04 - Schalken (seeded to be Schuettler), Ancic (seeded to be Henman)
AO 05 - Davydenko (seeded to be Henman)
Wimbledon 05 - Grosjean (seeded to be Henman), Johansson (seeded to be Nadal)

An awful lot of potential Henman-Roddick meetings have fallen by the wayside because of Henman's inability to live up to his seeding... and it's worth nothing that the majority of Roddick's opponents have been the people who beat the Top 10 players en route to that QF/SF, the exception being Wimbledon 03 and this year, because of Henman and Nadal's early exits.

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 07:43 AM
Very interesting stats Sjengster and that leads to the theory about Roddick having easy draws at Slams. I remember one of the commentators here said in not so many words that he was an impostor at the AO semis.

Worthless has made the call about Monfils making the semis, the only way he could do that is to win all his matches in straight sets, he doesn't have the endurance levels as of yet.

nermo
08-28-2005, 10:33 AM
Worthless has made the call about Monfils making the semis posted by GWH

true, Monfils reaching the semis ,is a just a fantasy dream i think so far,he hasn't got the ability to do it for at least this year, but if he's in a good form, he can make some good results there, he's got an interesting draw, not easy but it can help him,especially if he passed his first match ,which i think , 'll be tough..

Action Jackson
08-28-2005, 07:36 PM
Give it 2 weeks then it'll be over and hopefully there will be some good surprises.

RogiFan88
08-28-2005, 09:11 PM
Such a shame that Nalby was not fit enough [nor did he get a favourable schedule] to beat Pandy in 2003 -- then the final w have been interesante! ;)

asotgod
08-31-2005, 04:48 AM
bump

Biggest Surprise so far: Andy Roddick losing in the first round.

silverwhite
08-31-2005, 04:49 AM
It's unfortunate that 2 of the biggest surprises have come at the expense of Andy.

mitalidas
08-31-2005, 04:49 AM
roddick will beat at least one top 10 player in the US Open
.... In 19 career Grand Slams appearances, Roddick beat only one top 10 player -- Juan Carlos Ferrero in the 2003 Open final.


I made a lousy prediction ....... :yeah:

Now, in 20 Career slam appearances, Roddick has beaten only one top 10 player

Merton
08-31-2005, 05:13 AM
That must be the biggest surprise in a slam since Leyton lost 1st round to Karlovic at Wimby.

Jimnik
08-31-2005, 05:16 AM
Andy out. Juan Carlos out. Marat injured.
As you can see from my signature, these last 2 days have been the worst for me, as a tennis fan.

Action Jackson
08-31-2005, 11:06 AM
Yes, this thread had to be bumped Roddick losing in the 1st round of his home Slam, not something that was to be expected.

vincayou
08-31-2005, 11:50 AM
Murray, Gasquet winning 5 setters.

uNIVERSE mAN
08-31-2005, 12:09 PM
Andy out. Juan Carlos out. Marat injured.
As you can see from my signature, these last 2 days have been the worst for me, as a tennis fan.

Can't stand Safin, Ferrero and I can do without Roddick (although I would have preferred he stick around to take out Nadal).

nermo
09-06-2005, 01:51 PM
so far, Blake is making a surprising show..
rest of round 4 and quarter finals: what 'll be the biggest surprises...? :)

Action Jackson
09-06-2005, 01:51 PM
Nieminen or Verdasco in the last 8.

nermo
09-06-2005, 01:57 PM
Verdasco or Niemenen in the last 8 posted by GWH

yep..both are full with surprises..but who 'll make it this time? haven't seen them yet in this tour...

Action Jackson
09-06-2005, 01:58 PM
yep..both are full with surprises..but who 'll make it this time? haven't seen them yet in this tour...

The Ginepri hype machine is in overdrive, he will fade out just as quickly.

Nieminen is mentally tougher, Verdasco has the better game and he can do more damage in the later rounds.

nermo
09-06-2005, 02:02 PM
The Ginepri hype machine is in overdrive, he will fade out just as quickly.
posted by GWH

:yeah: agree, but i don't see it fading infront of Coria..not before the semifinals