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The "Ice Ice Baby! Andy wins his fourth title!" summer hardcourt thread!

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tangerine_dream
07-05-2005, 06:21 PM
Time for a new thread. :banana:

Kiwi, Lee, Melzer, Haas, Ginepri....these are just a few of Andy's favorite hardcourt bitches. http://www.skateboardpr.com/forum/images/smilies/owned.gif

Let's keep it that way, Andy. Maybe add a few more hapless victims to your harem. Heh. http://www.skateboardpr.com/forum/images/smilies/buttkick.gif http://www.rrorc.com/forums/images/smilies/nutkick.gif :p

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 06:30 PM
DEAD, I love you tangy! HOLYCRAPDEATH That is good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thread=stickied.

surfpinky
07-05-2005, 06:33 PM
AWESOME :rocker2:
Beat up those bitches good :cool:
love the title tangy :]

Golfnduck
07-05-2005, 06:34 PM
LMFAO!!! Great thread title Tangy :worship: :haha:

tangerine_dream
07-05-2005, 06:39 PM
Hee! Thanks guys :hug:

BTW, I just found this. Now, I know I'm usually the last one to know these things and for all I know Deb probably already posted it two weeks ago. But I like how positive Goldfine sounds about Andy's fitness and improvements so I will post it here to start off the USOpen series. :)

Goldfine on Andy

Roddick's coach, Dean Goldfine told TennisReporters.net that his stead is finally seeing the fruits of his labor. He's been working on becoming a better all-around player and here, he's been able to come off court knowing that he has more options.

"I think seeing him doing it in his matches, it gets him out of some of these pressure situations he's been in," Goldfine said. "This year, looking at the close matches he's lost, it's relatively easy to do new things at 2-all, 3-all in the first set, but at 4-all in the fifth set, that's a different story. And I think now he's finally starting to believe he has the ability to do some of these things and be successful doing it."

Even though he's still young, Roddick has been in a relative slump during the past year and has come under criticism for not stepping up in big matches. But he's putting in the necessary work and now that he trusts some of his newer shots and strategies anymore, he's beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

"It's obviously tough when you go through a period of time where you're not doing as well as you have in the past," Goldfine said. "And I think, too, with reading some of the things that have been written, 'What's wrong with Andy Roddick?' So, I think those things as well as the fact that his being able to do some of these new things we're working on and be successful doing it. I can talk to him about doing certain things and tell him this is the right thing to do but he's not going truly believe it until it works and that's normal."

Roddick is 2-0 against Johansson, who simply wore down Nalbandian. It's been a long road back for the former top-five player, who underwent knee surgery in 2003. At age 30, the Swede is staging an Agassi-like revival. One of the game's most intelligent players, he can still construct points with the best of them.
"I'm playing as good as I can," he said. :Fitness-wise I'm a lot stronger now, because I had a lot of time to work on my fitness. Now I never feel that I'm really tired. I get back to the points really quick. That is very important in tennis. ... A lot of people, they did not think I was going to be able to come back. But I love to play tennis. And when you're away from the tennis, you miss it a lot. I was working really, really hard to come back and to be able to play tennis against all these young guys that just popped up when I was injured."

Jennay
07-05-2005, 06:51 PM
Love it, Tangy. :cool: :hug:

Beat down on your bitches, Andy; no holding back! :rocker2:

smucav
07-05-2005, 06:52 PM
Kiwi, Lee, Melzer, Haas, Ginepri....these are just a few of Andy's favorite hardcourt bitches.Don't forget Malisse. (I still laugh every time I think about Jim Courier imitating Bolletieri's biased Nick's Pick of "Xavier Malisse in four" over Andy at the 2003 U.S. Open.)

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 06:57 PM
Don't forget Malisse. (I still laugh every time I think about Jim Courier imitating Bolletieri's biased Nick's Pick of "Xavier Malisse in four" over Andy at the 2003 U.S. Open.):haha: I remember that! I was like.... oh, ok. Right.

And yea, Andy, how bout opening up, hitting big, and going for the lines :cool:

smucav
07-05-2005, 07:03 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-bricker05jul05,0,808339.column?coll=sfla-sports-headlinesLazy days of summer? Not for Roddick
Charles Bricker
Sports Columnist
July 5, 2005

WIMBLEDON, England · What now for Andy Roddick after he played strong tennis in the Wimbledon final and still couldn't come close to defeating Roger Federer?

For one thing, two weeks off. Then, what appears to be his most aggressive summer schedule since he turned professional. In the past two years, he has played four events leading up to the U.S. Open, going 20-1 in 2003 with three titles, and 16-3 in 2004 with one title.

At this moment, he has signed for five tournaments in five weeks, though that could change if he comes up fatigued from too much play.

He'll return to the court on July 18 at Indianapolis, then to Los Angeles (July 25), Washington (Aug. 1), to the Canadian Open in Montreal (Aug. 8) and Cincinnati (Aug. 15). He'll go from Cincinnati directly to New York to practice that week before the start of the Open (Aug. 29).

Roddick played Indianapolis, Canada, Cincinnati and the Olympics in 2004, and he played Indianapolis, Canada, Cincinnati and Washington in 2003.

There will be a continued emphasis throughout these five U.S. Open Series events on attacking the net and improving his backhand slice volley approach.

In addition, his brother, John, who supplements the coaching of Dean Goldfine, would like to see Roddick improve his down-the-line backhand. It doesn't have to be an explosive, point-producing shot, but more like the backhand up the line you get from David Nalbandian and Guillermo Coria.

Nalbandian and Coria hit that shot so deep and so precise that it forces opponents to hit back crosscourt, which is into Roddick's powerful forehand ground stroke.

A half-hour after Federer had taken him apart Sunday afternoon, Roddick was in the locker room, trying to get over feeling bummed. "He needs some space right now," said his brother.

He got it and then he rebounded quickly and was in the post-match interview room, escorted as usual by one of the dour, poker-faced All England Club stewards who sit beside the players as they reply to questions.

Within minutes Roddick was cracking off one-liners. He was asked if he was confident throughout the match that he could find a way to win.

"I don't know about confident," said Roddick. "I think you're trying to find a way to get through. You know, I'm not sitting here telling you I'm down two sets and thinking, `I've got this one.'"

That brought laughter from his audience and also the steward, prompting Roddick to crack, "I finally got a laugh out of you. They're easy," Roddick told the Wimbledon official. "But you ... "

There was so much that was stunning about this match, but when you take the long view it was better tennis than the 2004 final, in which Roddick won a set and went down in four.

He is a better player. He is a stronger player. He is a quicker player. And so is Federer, if that seems possible. You cannot underscore the supreme confidence of the man.

When Roddick produced his only break to go up 3-1 in the second set, Federer looked completely unflustered.

Federer has a way of talking about his achievements that would make anyone who doesn't know him suspect an out-of-control ego. Somehow, when he praises himself, however, it never sounds boastful.

"Even though I was a break down in the second, I know I will have my chances again to break Andy," he said. And there was this: "Today, it seemed like I was playing flawless. Everything was working."

He can also be philosophical.

"In a way, I think this one [third Wimbledon title] will actually take me longer to realize," he said. "I remember during the match and during the [25-minute] rain delay and when I came back on court, I never really felt like I'm actually playing. It's like I'm not living this correctly.

"So, I don't know. It's a very strange feeling I have. It's probably going to take me days, months, weeks, years ... I don't know ... to realize this one."

He was that blown away with the near perfection of his performance.

All the more tangible things in his game were there, too, of course. Roddick, who forces opponents into an average 45 percent unreturned serves on grass, was only at 34 percent against Federer, who returns Roddick's serve better than anyone else. And there was a long list of spectacular Federer shots, from surprise lobs to backhand crosscourt passes that seemed as close to the net as you can get without touching it.

Who knows when they'll next play? Perhaps in the final of the U.S. Open, where it's not clear who is favored by the slower surface.

The fact is they could have played on an ice rink and it wouldn't have mattered. Federer is that good. Roddick can only keep working on his net game and his game from the baseline.

"You have to have both options," he said. "Today I feel like I hit really great approach shots, and I feel like I did force the issue. From a strategic standpoint, last year I left the court thinking, `Oh God, what if I would have done this at this moment or that at that moment?' This year, we went with the game plan and kind of stuck to it. It wasn't enough.

"You can't beat him, I don't think, being a one-dimensional player on a surface besides clay. You have to have a full arsenal."

And even then, it's nearly an impossible task.

Charles Bricker can be reached at cbricker@sun-sentinel.com

Copyright © 2005, South Florida Sun-Sentinel

Fumus
07-05-2005, 07:03 PM
:haha: I remember that! I was like.... oh, ok. Right.

And yea, Andy, how bout opening up, hitting big, and going for the lines :cool:

Actually I think it was McEnroe, he was like "Hhhey Nick Balllateyrri here with Nick's picks!!! My heart is sayin' Xavier Malisse in 5 sets, but my mind is saying Roddick in 3" :haha: haha :haha: :lol:

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 07:09 PM
improving his backhand slice volley approach.improve it by ditching it. PLEASE!.!.!.In addition, his brother, John, who supplements the coaching of Dean Goldfine, would like to see Roddick improve his down-the-line backhand. It doesn't have to be an explosive, point-producing shot, but more like the backhand up the line you get from David Nalbandian and Guillermo Coria.OMG YES!!!!!!! GO JOHN!!!!!!! :worship:

tangerine_dream
07-05-2005, 07:09 PM
I wonder if this new aggressive schedule of Andy's is his way of trying to stay a step ahead of Lleyton? Hewitt won the USO series last year and ran off with practically every mickey mouse title he could find. He also won more money at USO. :cool:

btw, is hitchhiker really gone from GM? I see he made a deal with the makro devil. :lol: If he is gone that's too bad because he was turning into one of the more amusing and fun trolls GM has had in quite a while. Hopefully he'll negate on his promise and come back during USO to stick it to the Fedtards some more. :lol:

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 07:10 PM
Andy needs to worry about winning the US OPEN, not the US Open SERIES. Playing too much beforehand could be detrimental. or it could be helpful if he really gets into a great groove like he did in 2003. We shall see. Only time will tell.

tangerine_dream
07-05-2005, 07:11 PM
"You have to have both options," he said. "Today I feel like I hit really great approach shots, and I feel like I did force the issue.

Proof that Andy needs to seriously re-think about how bad his approach shots really are. ;)

acoffeygirl
07-05-2005, 07:41 PM
Thanks for the thread Tangy! It rocks!

partygirl
07-05-2005, 07:53 PM
i just have to say- "i love this title"




i want to live here:worship:......but it's not just the bitches, there ARE a couple of ho's too

Angle Queen
07-05-2005, 07:57 PM
improve it by ditching it. Not completely...variety is necessary. Despite how it worked (or rather didn't) against Federer, his run-around (or can-opener) FH to the rightie opponent's BH is indeed a better shot. A little topspin high and to that same side is also a nice variation. If he's gonna continue to employ that slice, it's got to have more pace, more depth...and more slice -- a tricky threesome to coordinate. Not saying he shouldn't keep trying it, but it shouldn't be his primary mode of attack.

blosson
07-05-2005, 07:59 PM
It's time for Andy to start collecting more flower pots. :bounce:

http://www.atptennis.com/shared/photos/150X200/roddick_indy1.jpg

Iheartandy&roger
07-05-2005, 08:14 PM
It's time for Andy to start collecting more flower pots. :bounce:

http://www.atptennis.com/shared/photos/150X200/roddick_indy1.jpg

:lol: yeah it is time for him to start collecting more flower pots indeed! :devil: p.s. love the title of the thread Tangy :lol: :worship: lets hope Andy can beat some of these bitches up it's time we get rid of them! :mad:

smucav
07-05-2005, 08:21 PM
I wonder if this new aggressive schedule of Andy's is his way of trying to stay a step ahead of Lleyton?I don't think so: he is loyal to Washington & committed to Los Angeles at the end of 2004 when he still had the Davis Cup QF on his schedule. Since there was a 25% chance of going to Belarus (& a 25% chance of playing somewhere in the U.S.), he didn't originally enter Indianapolis. When that no longer was on his schedule, he committed to Indianapolis & scheduled his Aces match for the weekend before.

The regular ATP stops in the U.S. (with the exception of Newport which attracts different demographics than the others) can't move tickets without Andy or Agassi (or ideally both) so the Indianapolis tournament director really begged Andy to commit when his schedule opened up so he wouldn't have the poor ticket sales that Delray & Scottsdale had this year--.Hewitt won the USO series last year and ran off with practically every mickey mouse title he could find.And he did so by playing Washington when every other top 50 player (except Agassi who lost in the SF) was at the Olympics & by taking a wild card to Long Island after Agassi withdrew & Hewitt realized it would be an easy tournament to win. He only played one top 50 player, Chela (& no really good hard court players) in those ten matches. That's about the only time I wished the ATP awarded quality points like the WTA does.He also won more money at USO. :cool:So did Andy. He & Hewitt tied for first with 155 points (even with Andy playing fewer events), but Hewitt won the tiebreaker since Andy's two wins at the Olympics weren't counted.

http://www.usta.com/ustanews/fullstory.sps?iNewsid=100080

blosson
07-05-2005, 08:22 PM
I was checking the official Legg Mason website and surprise, surprise, they have Andy Roddick, 2001 champion and Andre Agassi, 5 times champion promoting the event. No signs of Hewitt, current champion. Do you guys know why Hewitt is not playing this event?

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 08:26 PM
Not completely...variety is necessary. Despite how it worked (or rather didn't) against Federer, his run-around (or can-opener) FH to the rightie opponent's BH is indeed a better shot. A little topspin high and to that same side is also a nice variation. If he's gonna continue to employ that slice, it's got to have more pace, more depth...and more slice -- a tricky threesome to coordinate. Not saying he shouldn't keep trying it, but it shouldn't be his primary mode of attack.Problem is, his slice approach currently doesn't even work against the likes of Andreev or Grosjean. He got burned by them a lot on it too. he needs to improve it AAAAAAA LOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT before he should use it very much. It's just awful at the moment.

J. Corwin
07-05-2005, 08:27 PM
Great thread and title Tangy! :devil:

I'm glad that Andy is playing so many tournaments before the Open because I feel it's time for him to win another one or two titles again (even if they're small)...*greedy* :p
I think he's playing so much not for the points, but for the wins and possible titles :cool:

First stop: let's go for 3-peat at EEEEEnDEEEE! :banana:

smucav
07-05-2005, 08:29 PM
Do you guys know why Hewitt is not playing this event?Because he found out that there are top 50 players entered there and he might have to play several of them to win another title (unlike last year when they were all at the Olympics). :)

Seriously, here's the real reason:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=1769394&postcount=106

superpinkone37
07-05-2005, 08:38 PM
Because he found out that there are top 50 players entered there and he might have to play several of them to win another title (unlike last year when they were all at the Olympics). :)

:lol:


Nice thread, Tangy :banana:

blosson
07-05-2005, 08:47 PM
I forgot Leyton is getting hitched before the baby is born. Will he be ready for USO :lol:
there is no much you can do in a honeymoon with a heavily pregnant wife right?

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 08:48 PM
I forgot Leyton is getting hitched before the baby is born. Will he be ready for USO :lol:
there is no much you can do in a honeymoon with a heavily pregnant wife right?:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

allanah
07-05-2005, 09:14 PM
I forgot Leyton is getting hitched before the baby is born. Will he be ready for USO :lol:
there is no much you can do in a honeymoon with a heavily pregnant wife right?

Heh Bloss. :lol:

Angle Queen
07-05-2005, 09:25 PM
I forgot Leyton is getting hitched before the baby is born. Will he be ready for USO :lol:His job...is already done. Child-rearing aside, of course.

there is no much you can do in a honeymoon with a heavily pregnant wife right?I think it's obvious...Lleyton had the honeymoon...before the wedding. ;)

snaillyyy
07-05-2005, 09:26 PM
Blosson!!! :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Winston's Human
07-05-2005, 09:30 PM
His job...is already done. Child-rearing aside, of course.

Somehow, I do not picture Lleyton doing middle of the night feedings and diaper changes.

Deboogle!.
07-05-2005, 09:40 PM
Somehow, I do not picture Lleyton doing middle of the night feedings and diaper changes.You don't? I picture him heating up the bottle and testing it on his wrist with a HOLLER of a COME ONNNNNNNNNNN when he gets the formula to juuuuuuuuuust the right temperature :angel:

Volcanic Tennis
07-05-2005, 09:47 PM
LMAO XD Andy's bitches XD

At tennis today, it was a special "Sports Experts" (Canadian sports store) thingie. We played games (boring ;_;) and participated in contests (too bad my ball didn't go into the hole ;_;) and it was fun. But I got this red bracelet thing that resembles Andy's "No Compromise" one, and I found it cool. It's for charity too, I think.

And I got to try out a new racket! :) there were tons available to try out, so I quickly grabbed the Babolat that he said Andy used. Funny thing is, I think I actually played better with it! LOL.

Then those guys left and I played a doubles match. We didn't get to finish. 5-5. -_-

Anyways, I know all of this is sort of off-topic, but I felt a lot like Andy today o-O I was struggling like him, but then I came out on top XD (we were trailing and we came back to tie)

RodLo
07-05-2005, 10:04 PM
I'm a little late to pop in here...well, not really, but these threads just fill up sooooo fast. I've only missed the morning/afternoon, and already I'm behind 40+ posts! :eek:

Anyways, love the thread title Tangy! :yeah:

Psh, I should be going to Indy this year but damn volleyball got in the way. :mad: I'm so bitter....so bitter. :mad: :mad:

andyroxmysox12191
07-05-2005, 10:26 PM
:haha: tangy I love you. Great thread title...although I was gonna start this thread but I was told not to by a certain someone *thinks of her* :p :lol:

Come on Andy...now is your chance to shine again :)

/ghetto time on

Bitches be going down yo

/ghetto time off

PinkFeatherBoa
07-05-2005, 10:57 PM
Cool thread title Tang.

Wishing Andy "the best of british" luck for the US hardcourt season. :cool:

zoltan83
07-05-2005, 11:00 PM
Nice thread and title Tangy :banana:

williaer
07-05-2005, 11:16 PM
:lol: nice thread title, tangy!!

and i totally agree, lets start by showing yo bitches who's boss, and lets add more (perhaps rogerer) to the hard court bitches group? um, wishful thinking, but it'd be nice :)

im really looking forward to see how andy's "new game" is going to fair on the hard court. i hope it's really good, because, andy... lets get another slam. ok? thanks.

acoffeygirl
07-06-2005, 12:26 AM
:haha: tangy I love you. Great thread title...although I was gonna start this thread but I was told not to by a certain someone *thinks of her* :p :lol:

Come on Andy...now is your chance to shine again :)

/ghetto time on

Bitches be going down yo

/ghetto time off

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to andyroxmysox12191 again. :worship:

acoffeygirl
07-06-2005, 12:28 AM
You don't? I picture him heating up the bottle and testing it on his wrist with a HOLLER of a COME ONNNNNNNNNNN when he gets the formula to juuuuuuuuuust the right temperature :angel:

:haha: :haha: :haha:

Iheartandy&roger
07-06-2005, 01:30 AM
You don't? I picture him heating up the bottle and testing it on his wrist with a HOLLER of a COME ONNNNNNNNNNN when he gets the formula to juuuuuuuuuust the right temperature :angel:

:haha: :lol: :worship:

Here's a rap a made for Andy:

Andy loves grass,
He beats everyone so fast,
But only damn Rogi kicks his ass,
Andy just gets harassed,
But Andy you have the abilities( serve ) to put Rogi in a cast,
Put all these beatings in the past,
And believe you can accomplish this task,
Then Hard courts will let you win a major at last! :worship:

Katdiva7
07-06-2005, 02:12 AM
^ Freaking AWESOME! I love it, lol :)

nkhera1
07-06-2005, 02:36 AM
improve it by ditching it. PLEASE!.!.!.OMG YES!!!!!!! GO JOHN!!!!!!! :worship:

If executed properly it can be a tough shot especially if you hit it to a side and not directly at the opponent because it forces them to hit the ball upwards which leads to an easy volley. 2 problems with Roddicks slice approach is that it doesn't move through the court like Federer's it just sits there (or so I heard in one of his wimbledon matches) and the second is he hits it straight to the opponent or not deep enough.

RodLo
07-06-2005, 02:54 AM
:haha: :lol: :worship:

Here's a rap a made for Andy:

Andy loves grass,
He beats everyone so fast,
But only damn Rogi kicks his ass,
Andy just gets harassed,
But Andy you have the abilities( serve ) to put Rogi in a cast,
Put all these beatings in the past,
And believe you can accomplish this task,
Then Hard courts will let you win a major at last! :worship:

:rolls: :haha: :rolls:

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Iheartandy&roger again.

RoddickBabe10
07-06-2005, 03:32 AM
Great title! :yeah:

I hope Andy does well at the Open. I also can't wait to see how his more improved game will do on the hardcourts. I wish him good health as well especially with this demanding schedule of his.:)

So let's try and win this thing Mr. Roddick! There are two other people I would want this other than you;)... so best of luck!:bounce:

surfpinky
07-06-2005, 03:50 AM
You don't? I picture him heating up the bottle and testing it on his wrist with a HOLLER of a COME ONNNNNNNNNNN when he gets the formula to juuuuuuuuuust the right temperature :angel:
you forgot that he'll do the vicht when the baybay gozzles down the formula in record time... :]
and then the baybay will do the vicht.... :]

Deboogle!.
07-06-2005, 03:51 AM
you forgot that he'll do the vicht when the baybay gozzles down the formula in record time... :]
and then the baybay will do the vicht.... :]:o:haha:

Golfnduck
07-06-2005, 04:18 AM
:haha: :lol: :worship:

Here's a rap a made for Andy:

Andy loves grass,
He beats everyone so fast,
But only damn Rogi kicks his ass,
Andy just gets harassed,
But Andy you have the abilities( serve ) to put Rogi in a cast,
Put all these beatings in the past,
And believe you can accomplish this task,
Then Hard courts will let you win a major at last! :worship:
LMFAO!!! :worship: :haha:

am&a
07-06-2005, 04:09 PM
Here's a rap a made for Andy:

Andy loves grass,
He beats everyone so fast,
But only damn Rogi kicks his ass,
Andy just gets harassed,
But Andy you have the abilities( serve ) to put Rogi in a cast,
Put all these beatings in the past,
And believe you can accomplish this task,
Then Hard courts will let you win a major at last! :worship:that's like, vinny ice worthy. dun dun dun da da dun dun. d:

Black Adam
07-06-2005, 09:56 PM
I love Indianapolis because Andy can 3 peat there :yeah:
I also remember the way he kicked Ivan in a tough 3 setter(
one of my favorites matches due to the toughness he showed by saving those mp's :rocker2: )

DECOTURF AT LAST! Let's kick ass!

Originally Posted by Iheartandy&roger
:haha: :lol: :worship:

Here's a rap a made for Andy:

Andy loves grass,
He beats everyone so fast,
But only damn Rogi kicks his ass,
Andy just gets harassed,
But Andy you have the abilities( serve ) to put Rogi in a cast,
Put all these beatings in the past,
And believe you can accomplish this task,
Then Hard courts will let you win a major at last! :worship:

Well, what about a player rapping the song for him ;) somebody give Cousin Vince a call

Iheartandy&roger
07-06-2005, 11:45 PM
I love Indianapolis because Andy can 3 peat there :yeah:
I also remember the way he kicked Ivan in a tough 3 setter(
one of my favorites matches due to the toughness he showed by saving those mp's :rocker2: )

DECOTURF AT LAST! Let's kick ass!


Well, what about a player rapping the song for him ;) somebody give Cousin Vince a call


:lol: that'd be awesome

renee_chin
07-07-2005, 04:31 AM
I love Indianapolis because Andy can 3 peat there :yeah:
I also remember the way he kicked Ivan in a tough 3 setter(
one of my favorites matches due to the toughness he showed by saving those mp's :rocker2: )



I remember that - Andy was half-awake walking on court, and THANKS to Mr. Ljubicic, he woke Andy up just in time to kick his ass :wavey: :p

Black Adam
07-07-2005, 08:12 AM
I remember that - Andy was half-awake walking on court, and THANKS to Mr. Ljubicic, he woke Andy up just in time to kick his ass :wavey: :p
Yeah in that first set he wasn't even present........his mind was somewhere else :angel: But in the last 2 sets we saw the A-Rod Attitude I would like to see more oftenly :D

whosthis77
07-07-2005, 09:34 AM
Good Luck to andy in the upcoming hardcourt season :)

williaer
07-07-2005, 10:34 AM
i think my fav memory of Ljubitch vs andy was the usopen 2003, match point for andy and ivan gets a towel and starts wiping his sweat off the baseline and the camera cut to andy swearing his head off.

partygirl
07-07-2005, 04:59 PM
i think my fav memory of Ljubitch vs andy was the usopen 2003, match point for andy and ivan gets a towel and starts wiping his sweat off the baseline and the camera cut to andy swearing his head off.


thats a great one!
i have it on tape and still watch it...it so good :worship:

MissFairy
07-09-2005, 08:31 AM
You don't? I picture him heating up the bottle and testing it on his wrist with a HOLLER of a COME ONNNNNNNNNNN when he gets the formula to juuuuuuuuuust the right temperature :angel:
I. Am. Dead. :haha: :haha:

I like the name Tangy...uh, how late am i? oooo never mind :o

knight_ley
07-10-2005, 11:28 PM
Hey guys!!!!!!!! Something tells me Andy is going to do just fine this summer. Although may I please be greedy and ask that Kiwi's dream of breaking Andy comes true this summer? Just once guys, Andy never let him last year :p

LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!! GOOD LUCK ANDY!!! :yeah:

Tytta!.
07-10-2005, 11:52 PM
Mary :smooch:

tangerine_dream
07-11-2005, 12:28 AM
Hey guys!!!!!!!! Something tells me Andy is going to do just fine this summer. Although may I please be greedy and ask that Kiwi's dream of breaking Andy comes true this summer? Just once guys, Andy never let him last year :p

LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!! GOOD LUCK ANDY!!! :yeah:
LOL, Mary. :smooch: I hope I see more Kiwi-Andy finals this summer than Andy-Ivan ones. :ras:

knight_ley
07-11-2005, 12:47 AM
LOL, Mary. :smooch: I hope I see more Kiwi-Andy finals this summer than Andy-Ivan ones. :ras:

That makes two of us, even if it means Kiwi still won't be winning any :p :lol:

superpinkone37
07-11-2005, 05:21 AM
hi Mary! :hug:

knight_ley
07-11-2005, 02:28 PM
hi Danielle!!! :smooch:

Deboogle!.
07-11-2005, 04:53 PM
I didn't know where else to put this, so here I guess?

Last night I had nothing to catch up with on tape from the week so when I got into bed I was like "let's put in a random unmarked tape of Andy matches and see what we get" lol.

anyway so it was like the middle of Andy's match against Canas in Miami last year. I started watching it and almost wanted to cry. Every forehand he hit was landing within a foot of the baseline. He was totally controlling rallies against CANAS, totally hitting out, etc. I miss this Andy so much :sad: :crying2: Then the next match on the tape was against Spadea where he absolutely gave him a BEATDOWN. I think it was the third point in the match or something he hit a CLEAN BH CC winner. It was gorgeous. No shots landed at the service line or anything, and he was going for his shots and going for the lines. Sigh.

I'm starting to think it was indeed the USO loss that really was what killed his confidence for good, the straw that broke the camel's back, if you will. Anyone who has a tape of any of Andy's matches from like early last year or before, watch it and let me know what you think.

Andy please come back to us for the HC season. PLEASEEEEEEEE!

blosson
07-11-2005, 05:32 PM
Do you think Andy is trying to play 'safer' now? It could be his coach's influence.
Brad had the tendency to say 'go out and take all the chances you can'

Deboogle!.
07-11-2005, 05:33 PM
I don't know, maybe :( But it's awful. :( Everything Dean has said in the press is "be more aggressive be more aggressive" etc... that shouldn't equate playing that safely. Plus it's not like he makes that few UEs or whatever. it's not like it's working for him AT ALL. He's just not swinging through his shots lately :( Even his overheads are really tentative. In the stuff I watched last night he put away three or four overheads FIERCELY. But at RG and Wimby and stuff, he was hitting them right at his opponents and stuff :( :(:(

blosson
07-11-2005, 05:47 PM
I remember one article where Dean said Todd Martin did not take risks and Andy is quite the opposite and take too many risks. He's probably trying to reach a balance but obviously is having problems with his best shots.

Oh well, it's all about his confidence as you already said. Roger, Pim Pim and Hewitt have taken a mouth full big bite out of Andy. He definatelly needs a massive win over either Hewitt or Roger to recover.

Deboogle!.
07-11-2005, 05:52 PM
yes :(

jessa007
07-11-2005, 08:48 PM
I don't really know where to post this, but Andy filmed a commercial today in Austin with Mardy that will air during the US Open. And he was apperantly wearing his new Babolat shoes.

Deboogle!.
07-11-2005, 08:50 PM
Cool! :D thanks for the info:) I wonder what it was for.... and mmmm Andy and Mardy in a commercial together? That's nice :D

Tytta!.
07-11-2005, 08:50 PM
Thanks for the info :smooch:

Tytta!.
07-11-2005, 08:51 PM
Great minds think alike...

snaillyyy
07-11-2005, 08:53 PM
Another great commercial for us to see during USO :D I like! thanks .

jessa007
07-11-2005, 08:55 PM
Cool! :D thanks for the info:) I wonder what it was for.... and mmmm Andy and Mardy in a commercial together? That's nice :D

Whoops, I guess I forgot to mention that it was a AMEX commercial.

MissFairy
07-11-2005, 08:59 PM
Whoops, I guess I forgot to mention that it was a AMEX commercial.
Oooh, maybe this time Mardy will fall into Andys lap rather than a trophy. That's way hotter :hearts:

Deboogle!.
07-11-2005, 09:01 PM
Oooh, maybe this time Mardy will fall into Andys lap rather than a trophy. That's way hotter :hearts:HAHAHAHA!! :haha: :spit: no making me laugh at work ya hear?

anyway, thanks Jessa! Mardy and Andy in a funny Amex Ad???? OH MAN.

MissFairy
07-11-2005, 09:04 PM
HAHAHAHA!! :haha: :spit: no making me laugh at work ya hear?
Ooops, sorry! okay, to calm you down, uh, think of this: Massu falling onto Roger's lap. Naked.

Ta-da. Not hot.

snaillyyy
07-11-2005, 09:06 PM
OMC :haha: :haha: Sarah, I have to remember to read your post without food in my mouth!!

Andy and Mardy together in a commercial hmmmmm :devil:

andyroxmysox12191
07-11-2005, 09:23 PM
Ohhh a Andy and Mardy commercial...interesting :D

partygirl
07-11-2005, 09:42 PM
Andy and Mardy


:couple: :inlove: :lick: :inlove: :tape:

Tytta!.
07-11-2005, 09:50 PM
Andy and Mardy together in a commercial hmmmmm :devil:

:devil:

blosson
07-11-2005, 10:17 PM
Oooh, maybe this time Mardy will fall into Andys lap rather than a trophy. That's way hotter :hearts:

hum, I though Mardy would be replacing the pretty girl who asks if the seat is empty...

partygirl
07-11-2005, 10:27 PM
hum, I though Mardy would be replacing the pretty girl who asks if the seat is empty...


......and then they make out


(had 2 do it)

Golfnduck
07-12-2005, 03:02 AM
Hmmm.....Andy and Mardy doing a commerical together. What's it for, gay rights? :scratch:

snaillyyy
07-12-2005, 03:06 AM
Sorry folks but I really must need major amounts of sleep cause I have this image in my head of the commercial
I see Mardy in the infamous lime skirt, Andy in a purple one, strolling down the beach to a bar selling beer and pizza, they both reaching into their matching underwear and pull out their amex cards and sail off into the suinset, one with sausage pizza and the other with pepperoni.

Ok now you can all shoot me :o I must get sleep!

Golfnduck
07-12-2005, 03:08 AM
Sorry folks but I really must need major amounts of sleep cause I have this image in my head of the commercial
I see Mardy in the infamous lime skirt, Andy in a purple one, strolling down the beach to a bar selling beer and pizza, they both reaching into their matching underwear and pull out their amex cards and sail off into the suinset, one with sausage pizza and the other with pepperoni.

Ok now you can all shoot me :o I must get sleep!
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! DEATH!!!! :haha: :sobbing: :rolls:
Carole :worship:

Tytta!.
07-12-2005, 12:47 PM
:spit: :haha:

allanah
07-12-2005, 01:58 PM
Dear Lord Carlos,

please bring back AndyTennis . And not that rubbish that's played on clay either. The bit where the two blokes stand on opposite sets of a net and hit the furry little ball back and forth is kinda fun. And might help us agree on more stuff, rather than slagging each other off in different threads.

Feel free to exclude people who starts ingratiating threads about how Andy isn't 'a prick' anymore in your abundant tennis blessing.

Thank you

Allanah

superpinkone37
07-12-2005, 05:11 PM
Sorry folks but I really must need major amounts of sleep cause I have this image in my head of the commercial
I see Mardy in the infamous lime skirt, Andy in a purple one, strolling down the beach to a bar selling beer and pizza, they both reaching into their matching underwear and pull out their amex cards and sail off into the suinset, one with sausage pizza and the other with pepperoni.

Ok now you can all shoot me :o I must get sleep!

uh LMAO!! :rolls: :lol:

tangerine_dream
07-12-2005, 05:32 PM
Because I am ginko biloba-deficient, can someone remind me: who televised the RCA matches last year? Was it ESPN or Fox? Will it be the same again this year?

Thanks.

Deboogle!.
07-12-2005, 05:35 PM
Actually it's NBC :p

http://www.usopenseries.com/tv_schedule/custom.sps?itype=6694&icustompageid=9695

jessa007
07-12-2005, 08:02 PM
Just a little update on the Andy/Mardy commercial...

The commercial is apperantly about Andy losing his mojo, his game, and he's trying to get it back. The girl who told me about the commercial said that she saw Andy filming scenes where he kept on missing the balls, and hitting them into the net, and then getting frustrated. And at one point of the commercial he goes and sits next to Mardy and says something like, "Mardy, do you ever have one of those days where you keep on messing up." Thats all the girl told me. I can't figure out how it could pertain to AMEX though. Guess we'll just have to wait and see!

Deboogle!.
07-12-2005, 08:04 PM
UM DEAD LOL

and how sad and yet so a propos :sad:

Thanks Jessa:hug:

acoffeygirl
07-12-2005, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the update...can't wait to see it!!!

blosson
07-12-2005, 08:08 PM
Just a little update on the Andy/Mardy commercial...

The commercial is apperantly about Andy losing his mojo, his game, and he's trying to get it back. The girl who told me about the commercial said that she saw Andy filming scenes where he kept on missing the balls, and hitting them into the net, and then getting frustrated. And at one point of the commercial he goes and sits next to Mardy and says something like, "Mardy, do you ever have one of those days where you keep on messing up." Thats all the girl told me. I can't figure out how it could pertain to AMEX though. Guess we'll just have to wait and see!

ok. So Mardy answers "Yes, I know. It happens all the time with me. That's why we both have AMEX credit cards, so we can go shopping like crazy after a terrible loss. Your card, my card, our card"

Iheartandy&roger
07-13-2005, 07:54 AM
Word is on the MTF streets is that we have 2 supporters of our Andy bandwagon back Leena and Hitchhiker but under different usernames.

Deboogle!.
07-13-2005, 02:39 PM
I think Leena has been here under 2349830948 usernames ;)

andyroxmysox12191
07-13-2005, 04:53 PM
:haha: Can't wait to see the commercial....thanks jessa! :hug:

smucav
07-13-2005, 08:42 PM
http://www.nuvo.net/archive/2005/07/13/along_the_lines_with_michael_morrison.htmlAlong the Lines with Michael Morrison
Mary Lee Pappas

Michael Morrison is division co-chair, media relations for the RCA Championships, held July 16-24 at the Indianapolis Tennis Center. This U.S. Open Series men’s event offers $600,000 in prize money to 48 singles and 16 doubles teams. Past champions include Pete Sampras, John McEnroe and Andy Roddick.

Q: Where do players eat, golf and hang out while in Indianapolis?

A: You definitely see players at Palamino Sunday night before the tournament starts. We don’t have food service for the players that night, the Sunday of qualifications. I once saw Goren Ivanisevic in there right after he won Wimbledon. One of the places they like to golf [like Agassi] is Wolf Run in Zionsville. Also, they’ll play the Fort or Eagle Creek.

Q: Where are the best seats at the RCAs?

A: On the stadium court, it’s your own preference. For me, I like sitting on the north or south ends so my head doesn’t turn back and forth. If you like to get up close, the best seats are the media press area, the paddock area right behind the player benches. There are courtside seats on the west side where you can get that close. The best thing about the qualifiers is that you are seeing all the up-and-comers, the journeymen on tour who are really trying to make a living. Obviously, the farther they go and if they make it into the main draw, they can make more money. Qualifying is always done on our outer courts, so you’ll always have intimate seating, no more than 50 feet away from players.

Q: Why new court colors?

A: Every year we have to resurface the courts. They get worn and become slower. Being part of the U.S. Open Series and as a tournament leading up to the U.S. Open, you want to make sure you provide the players with the exact same speed of surface that they are going to see at the U.S. Open. The U.S. Open series this year changed the court colors. They used to be dark green for the interior court and outer court in light green. This year the interior court, the playing portion, is blue … really for the TV audience. On television on a blue court the ball stands out more and is easier for the viewer to see. Players don’t care about the color of the court just as long as the speed of the surface is fine.

Q: Where’s the best spot to get an autograph?

A: Fans line up on the walkway between the stadium going to the indoor tennis center. Players walk up those southwest corner stairs after stadium matches.

Q: What would be your fantasy match-up for the RCAs this year?

A: I think everyone’s fantasy match-up would be Agassi and Roddick in the finals, though it’s very rare that our No. 1 and 2 seed actually make it to the finals.

Q: Who are some other biggies scheduled to play?

A: Tommy Haas, the German star, is coming back. Last year’s runner up, Nicolas Kiefer from Germany, will also be back. Greg Rusedski, who won our title in 2002, will be back. American players include the all-American from Harvard James Blake, Taylor Dent and Robby Ginepri.

Visit www.rcatennis.com or call 317-632-8000 for ticket information.

Deboogle!.
07-15-2005, 04:25 AM
hehe! the WTT site has Andy having played doubles tonight... but I think they got the wrong Andy (Erlich plays with Andy RAM, and he also played in the singles). lol!

http://wtt.com/schedules/results.asp?game_id=268

Ok so this is absolutely irrelevant and not even that funny but at night when I'm tired, I'm easily amused :p


omg lmfao the Kansas City paper even says it was andy RODDICK that played... there's just... no way... lmfao
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/12136755.htm

Carito_90
07-15-2005, 04:15 PM
ok. So Mardy answers "Yes, I know. It happens all the time with me. That's why we both have AMEX credit cards, so we can go shopping like crazy after a terrible loss. Your card, my card, our card"

Oh God. I'm dead.

athena_wu
07-15-2005, 05:12 PM
Oh, the commercial, death.

Deboogle!.
07-16-2005, 12:41 AM
Indy draw out

Andy has a bye in first round, Tursunov or a qualifier in R2 (not an easy match, tursunov is in good form lately)

third round seeded to beat Malisse (:haha: )

QF, seeded for P-Dorn or Vinny Ice

SF, Ancic (or perhaps Beck or Andy Murray or Mardy???)


http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=/posting/2005/419/MDS.pdf

My analysis of the draw... if Andy doesn't win this title again. RETIRE. :)

Tytta!.
07-16-2005, 12:47 AM
Thanks, Deb! :hug:

snaillyyy
07-16-2005, 12:51 AM
Thanks Deb :smooch: I just told Renata that as long as he plugs his brain in the right way he SHOULD three peat here....so do it Andy!

PinkFeatherBoa
07-16-2005, 01:00 AM
Indy draw out

My analysis of the draw... if Andy doesn't win this title again. RETIRE. :)

Amen to that. :) I'm a hard task master, but a fair one

superpinkone37
07-16-2005, 01:07 AM
LOL Deb :lol:

Deboogle!.
07-16-2005, 01:10 AM
um Danielle.

Not a joke!

:p

Havok
07-16-2005, 02:20 AM
If Andy doesn't **** the field and win this title with relative ease, then.:o

surfpinky
07-16-2005, 02:39 AM
I want mardy to win. :]

superpinkone37
07-16-2005, 02:41 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAA :haha:

Um, I mean, I'm sure Mardy will do extremely well at Indy :) :angel:

surfpinky
07-16-2005, 02:44 AM
:] hope so
he won't :sobbing:

superpinkone37
07-16-2005, 02:45 AM
poor mardy :sobbing:

surfpinky
07-16-2005, 02:47 AM
:sobbing: if he can just get to the semifinals....please mar-day please :sobbing:

heya
07-16-2005, 04:22 AM
Andy became a rebel (he can't admit it).
He feels empty if he's alone. He feels shame without playing numerous exhibitions.
He uses press conferences as therapy sessions. That's when he's irrational.
He forgot who rolled him in the money---the fans.

-He doesn't hit crisp winners for the whole duration of a match anymore.
More publicity & high expectations make him question his self-worth.
He literally ran away for 2 years. Nothing tells me that he'll do the opposite.
He wants to put the burden of success on other players.
If he wins, he accepts it, but he isn't happy with his footwork/game. Maybe he won't do much. 2-3 years down the road will reveal a lot.
-He sometimes shows up to see if he can win a match, not a tourney.
-He tanks matches not 'cause he faces improved opponents. It's 'cause he doesn't care about concentrating.
He was taught to make opponents happy/unjealous.
He was told to be supernice & harmless to crowds/opponents.
I watched the Entertainment interview in which he said that his parents won't let him
get bigheaded.

I don't see anything wrong with being vicious. Andy isn't himself.
I've never seen a confident Andy since he beat Ferrero @ USO.

Golfnduck
07-16-2005, 04:36 AM
LET'S GO ANDY!!! BEAT UP ON YOUR BITCHES!!!

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 05:45 AM
Like I've said to some on msn, if Andy even so much as drop a set at Indy...shame on him! :p Get your 19th singles title here Andy. :banana:

heya
07-16-2005, 06:53 AM
The only thought in his head is: "I need a girly girl to slap me around. Bad me!!"
He already dropped sets on grass. Grass makes him delusional. (Slow hardcourt forces him not to be lazy) He's getting horrible on fast hardcourt & carpet, believe it or not. :shrug: He stands too upright & his open stance should be wider.
He hits too many topspin forehands. He's begging "How much can I get away with predictable serve tosses & no angle volleys or backhands down the line?"
Will he change his serve to be less predictable....? I doubt it.

Distracting habits:
He shakes the wristband, dives & trips nonstop.
he's auditioning for a physical comedy movie.

blosson
07-16-2005, 07:08 AM
:lol: I wonder if he can actually see the ball properly. I mean, he wears glasses from time to time. Does he wear lenses on court?

Heya, Andy has loads more distracting habits: walking friskly from one side to the other at the back when waiting for opponents, adjusting his cap, ajusting his shirt, biting nails but luckly he does not adjust his G-strings like Rafa does. :lol:

Black Adam
07-16-2005, 07:31 AM
HE needs a Three Peat here inorder to boost his agressive Summer à la 2003 :aplot:
Go Andy and wish you the best luck :yeah:
BTW is he playing in LA just after Indianapolis?

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 08:56 AM
BTW is he playing in LA just after Indianapolis?

He's scheduled to. :) But it's probably also the tournament he's most likely to pull out of ;) (not that I expect him to...).

Dirk
07-16-2005, 09:02 AM
He will probably end up winning it, but why he is going to play Mason the week after is beyond me. If he goes deep/or wins them both then he might really screw himself for Canada. He isn't playing New Haven so he is showing some brains. I think he will snag 2 titles during this summer run.

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 09:21 AM
If he goes deep/or wins them both then he might really screw himself for Canada.

He went deep/won all those summer tournaments in 2003 and look what happened. ;)

But I do agree. He shouldn't tire himself out playing in all these mickey mouse tournaments but if anything I hope it's a confidence builder type thing (and he needs it obviously ;)). Hopefully he'll get better and better and peak at the Open...and once he gets rolling he can pull out a streak of some sort. :cool:

blosson
07-16-2005, 09:25 AM
1jackson2001, shouldn't you be in bed? :)

Dirk
07-16-2005, 09:33 AM
He went deep/won all those summer tournaments in 2003 and look what happened. ;)

But I do agree. He shouldn't tire himself out playing in all these mickey mouse tournaments but if anything I hope it's a confidence builder type thing (and he needs it obviously ;)). Hopefully he'll get better and better and peak at the Open...and once he gets rolling he can pull out a streak of some sort. :cool:

I wouldn't call RCA mickey mouse or Mason (which tends to be good event and it's worth 50 points) but in 03 I think Mason was after Cincy so he wasn't drained for one of the big events that year so the Mason loss to Tim wasn't bad. Playing two weeks back to back before Canada is a bad idea but who knows he could win them both easily and have a nice draw for a few rounds in Canada and be ok. That of course is chancing for some luck to be thrown your way which isn't the best bet to roll the dice on. He could easily lose his seeding if he flops in Canada even a win in Cincy won't make up for the lost points unless he wins Mason.

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 09:34 AM
1jackson2001, shouldn't you be in bed? :)

Me? ;) It's only 2:30 in the morning here. :p Way before my usual bedtime. :lol:

Good morning to you! :wavey:

btw, you can call me Jace lol

Dirk
07-16-2005, 09:37 AM
Oh I looked it up and Andy actually did do this same thing in 03. He played Mason before Canada and he went deep or won all the events so yeah maybe he will be fine. He is fitter too so if he plays tougher matches he could still be ok.

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 09:39 AM
I wouldn't call RCA mickey mouse or Mason (which tends to be good event and it's worth 50 points) but in 03 I think Mason was after Cincy so he wasn't drained for one of the big events that year so the Mason loss to Tim wasn't bad. Playing two weeks back to back before Canada is a bad idea but who knows he could win them both easily and have a nice draw for a few rounds in Canada and be ok. That of course is chancing for some luck to be thrown your way which isn't the best bet to roll the dice on. He could easily lose his seeding if he flops in Canada even a win in Cincy won't make up for the lost points unless he wins Mason.

Mason was before Canada that year too.

And NO, RCA and Mason are mickey mouse tournaments too. Andy only plays in them outside of slams and the TMS's. Andy signed up for these tournies, so they have to be. It is common knowledge. Please get with the program.

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 09:40 AM
Oh I looked it up and Andy actually did do this same thing in 03. He played Mason before Canada and he went deep or won all the events so yeah maybe he will be fine. He is fitter too so if he plays tougher matches he could still be ok.

Yes. ;)

Dirk
07-16-2005, 09:42 AM
Just because a event is not a slam nor a Master doesn't mean it's mickey mouse and means nothing. The points one rings up in those events are key to their year and their career. If the field is super weak and it's worth very little then yeah it's mickey mouse but RCA I wouldn't call it that and Mason I wouldn't call it that either especially the year Andy won it because the field was strong that year.

J. Corwin
07-16-2005, 09:47 AM
Death. Thanks for the explanation on how the ATP rankings work. ;)

I think you're missing something here. ;) Andy is mickey mouse king...everyone knows that!!

On a serious note, the LA field is supposedly especially strong this year(?). Indy may be worth more points but it's not really a stronger field.

Dirk
07-16-2005, 09:52 AM
Andy has to defend those RCA points. LA is actually the following week and Mason is one week after that event. Andy will get a break in between which is good but I still think Mason is the smart move since it's worth more points. Besides it's on his week off so nobody can slight him for not wanting to play 3 weeks before Canada. The only mickey mouse events Andy has is a few of the Houstons (02 seemed like a good one) St. Polten, maybe San Jose this year (don't know what it was like last year) and Atlanta.

nobama
07-16-2005, 01:55 PM
My analysis of the draw... if Andy doesn't win this title again. RETIRE. :)If Andy doesn't win a HC tournament where Fed and Hewitt aren't in the draw then he should retire. He should win the tournies before the Rogers Cup unless Agassi gives him trouble.

Deboogle!.
07-16-2005, 03:01 PM
Well Agassi is out of Indy. Maybe he'll still play LA (he's entered). There are other people who are playing the tourneys who can give him trouble (Ancic is playing them all I think, maybe not DC. PimPim is playing LA, and there are others), but I agree that on paper he should win all 3 titles. I don't care if he wins LA, I just want him to last a couple rounds and do the charity thing Monday night of the tourney b/c I want to see him play again in person :)

I think Andy needs to be more concerned with getting a big string of wins. He should be winning most of these matches relatively easily, and he really shouldn't be tiring himself out that much. After thinking about it a little, I might prpefer to see a tired but confident Andy over a fresh but not confident Andy. Right now he's obviously not confident. Then again, winning small titles hasn't seemed to mattered this year. And he hasn't played since Wimby, so we don't know what all the good wins there have done to his confidence long-term. maybe it helped, we shall see :)

oh and Wash. DC is only worth 35 points now. I made the same mistake b/c it was until a couple years ago.

I think of all the fields, LA is the strongest (well it had the highest cutoff anyway), but DC is strong as well. If any of the three are Mickey Mouse tourneys, it's Indy. But it's also the only one worth more points (40) sooo I dunno. But Andy's the only top 20 player there.

acoffeygirl
07-16-2005, 06:29 PM
He freaking better get to the weekend in LA.....or else!!! :armed:

Iheartandy&roger
07-16-2005, 06:41 PM
DEATH! :lol: :haha: Andy retire if he doesn't win a hard court title that hewitt or fed is in is exactly what he should do cuz that would be pretty pathetic! :o I would hide my face in a paperbag too while I was at it! :devil:

tangerine_dream
07-16-2005, 06:57 PM
Perhaps I'm the only one here who actually thinks that even if Hewitt was in this draw, Andy should still win this title. :o

Deboogle!.
07-16-2005, 07:00 PM
no. I think so too tangy :)

acoffeygirl
07-16-2005, 07:17 PM
I agree Tangy...I almost wish he had the chance to play him. I really want him to get a win over Hewitt this summer.

nobama
07-16-2005, 08:13 PM
Well he almost beat Hewitt at Indian Wells, so I suppose it's possible. He'd certainly have a better chance beating Hewitt than Fed, I think.

allanah
07-16-2005, 08:16 PM
Perhaps I'm the only one here who actually thinks that even if Hewitt was in this draw, Andy should still win this title.

I dunno. In my mind, Andy would be the underdog v Lleyton - purely because of their recent H2H. I'm not sure I could say I'd expect him to win. I'm thinking of all the new stuff he's integrated into his game and just seeing Hewitt countering all of it.


Which is not to say 'roll over and die', I just mean I'd be more hopeful, than expectant of an Andy win over Hewitt.

nobama
07-16-2005, 08:21 PM
Where will Andy be seeded at the Roger's Cup? Last year he was seeded #2. Lleyton was seeded #9, was in the same quarter as Roger but lost 2nd round to Santoro. Of course there was no Nadal in the picture last year.

Deboogle!.
07-16-2005, 09:16 PM
He'd be seeded whatever his ranking is. If he's ranked 4, he's seeded 4, whatever.

Considering Andy nearly beat Hewitt in 2001 when Hewitt's game was FAR more developed than Andy's, if Andy were to just have his head totally in the game, I think he should beat Lleyton on a very fast court. Problem is, when was the last time his head was totally in the game against a top player!?!
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Roddick aims for Indy revival to start post-Wimbledon recovery
AFP

Andre Agassi's absence with a nerve problem in his back leaves Andy Roddick as the top draw as well as the top seed at the 575,000-dollar ATP event that starts.

Eight-time Grand Slam champion Agassi could be on the verge of bowing out at the US Open after nearly two decades on court.

"It's disappointing for me not to be in Indy," the US veteran said. "I had every intention of being there."

Roddick will have some questions to answer after losing his second consecutive Wimbledon final a fortnight ago to Roger Federer.

The American is desperate for another major success after lifting his only Grand Slam title at the 2003 US Open.

With top-ranked Swiss star Federer out of the picture until his return next month at Montreal, Roddick has a chance to make up ground with a full summer schedule on his favourite surface.

"It's tough knowing that you're a better player than you were two years ago but not having a lot to show for it," admitted the world number four.

With all 16 seeds handed opening-round byes, Roddick's first match will come at mid-week against the winner between a qualifier and Russian Dmitry Tursunov, who ousted Britain's Tim Henman at Wimbledon.

German Nicolas Kiefer is seeded second ahead of Slovak Dominik Hrbaty, American Taylor Dent and Croatia's Mario Ancic.

Some of the field will be flying from Europe to Middle America after Davis Cup quarter-finals, with Hrbaty and Ancic top of that list.

Britain's Greg Rusedski, the 2002 champion here, will be joined by Wimbledon sensation Andy Murray who made the third round at the All England Club.

Rusedski, seeded seventh, will be playing for the first time since lifting his 14th career title earlier this month on grass at Newport, Rhode Island.

heya
07-16-2005, 11:08 PM
Did you notice the commentators & media put words in Andy's mouth even after knowing very little about him?
Andy didn't expect much before he turned pro, but suddenly, everyone
who got in his life bragged that Andy tried so hard & was perfectly fit & supremely competitive...
Fact is, the commentators & ex-coach talked out of their asses like Ace Ventura.
Mary Carillo still showed off her sneering tone of voice in front of John McEnroe like "Roddick's one dimensional. He tried his best & never goofed off."
JohnMc kept encouraging Andy to hit the ball as hard as possible....
Excuse me, that's BS :bs:.
PMc can't stop kissing Andy's ass for Davis Cup between Jan-Dec. We know how that went... :inlove:
Tennis's a very serious sport. Andy doesn't take it that seriously.
I believe his family wants Andy to have vacation time rather than enjoy success all year.
Jingoistic ESPN people need to see that.

blosson
07-16-2005, 11:22 PM
Perhaps I'm the only one here who actually thinks that even if Hewitt was in this draw, Andy should still win this title. :o

It amuses me that Andy only beat Hewitt once in 7 tries. Their h2h is so pathetic. :o For sure Andy has the weapons and power to beat Leyton but the little one won't give a match away and Andy's better brush up his news skills as Leyton showed he can volley too.

Leyton will be on honeymoon for a while and Andy can collect some points leading to USO.

guida
07-17-2005, 12:09 AM
Leyton will be on honeymoon for a while and Andy can collect some points leading to USO.

Yeah, that'll be Andy's wedding gift to Lleyton. :lol:

heya
07-17-2005, 12:46 AM
How do you win if you just bash your forehand & don't practice right (with a seriously good technical coach)?
Captain PMc looked shocked, "Roddick doesn't believe in himself."
He certainly didn't believe in Andy.
He yelled at the Indian Wells semifinal, "Andy's going down fast in the 2nd set."

It's not like Andy watched matches to learn what to do. He wasn't really lean, fit & fast.
In reality, Hewitt was the one watching his Masters Cup match with his coach.
Andy may have injured his foot, as PMc claimed, but the lack of
preparation's pitiful. Andy wouldn't say a word in the press conference 'cuz he
wouldn't admit that he didn't care.
"I'm charging the net & I know you'll beat me there, but so what?. Get this match over with. I don't want to show my face any longer," Andy thought.
Gilbert & PMc blurted more BS like "VINTAGE Hewitt!"
They only stunk badly as tennis players,
so they never had the chance to tank a match.

smucav
07-17-2005, 02:42 AM
Yeah, that'll be Andy's wedding gift to Lleyton. :lol:Nalbandian already gave Hewitt his wedding gift (he delivered it in person in Sydney):

http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=1990098&postcount=1230

nobama
07-17-2005, 03:05 AM
He'd be seeded whatever his ranking is. If he's ranked 4, he's seeded 4, whatever.I understand that....I'm just wondering what people think his ranking will be by then. The difference btw him, Hewitt and Nadal isn't much.

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 03:07 AM
Oh, well... hm... probably 4. It'll be pretty hard for Andy to put on a whole lot of Entry points before montreal, and then he defends the final there... and the semi at cincy.... so....

smucav
07-17-2005, 03:08 AM
oh and Wash. DC is only worth 35 points now. I made the same mistake b/c it was until a couple years ago.Washington is worth 40 race points/200 entry points:

http://www.atptennis.com/en/tournaments/profile/418.asp

http://stevegtennis.com/factsheets/2005/a-washington.htm

Fewer points were awarded in 2004 only (due to a one year only reduction in the draw due to the Olympics).

Washington did change from a 56 draw to a 48 draw this year, but kept the same number of points. There will be a ITF women's tournament taking place at the same time as the men's ATP event, but I don't think that had anything to do with the reduction since it was announced at the beginning of the year & the women's event moving from Ashburn to Washington wasn't decided until May or June.

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 03:09 AM
well fine, but it used to be 50 points and ISG. It's not that anymore.

snaillyyy
07-17-2005, 03:42 AM
:hearts: awww the smile and a backwards hat!

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 03:43 AM
You're fast Carole :p

ok

Backwards hat = omgheart

end.

and that nice BRIGHT red looks good on him. :)

acoffeygirl
07-17-2005, 03:45 AM
Carole is my hero!!! I love the RED!!!

andyroxmysox12191
07-17-2005, 03:46 AM
He looks adorable! :hearts: Thanks sis :kiss:

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 03:47 AM
Nice job losing to Delgado Andy

:haha:

Newport Beach Breakers def. Saint Louis Aces 22-20

Set Score NPB STL

MX: Roddick/Russell (STL) def.
Rodionova/Delgado (NPB) 5-4(4) 4 5

WD: Bondarenko/Rodionova (NPB) def.
Jackson/Russell (STL) 5-2 9 7

MD: Ram/Roddick (STL) def.
Bowen/Delgado (NPB) 5-4(1) 13 12

WS: Jackson (STL) def. Bondarenko (NPB) 5-4(3) 17 17

MS: Delgado (NPB) def. Roddick (STL) 5-3 22 20


Too bad, he played last and would've won for his team if he'd won.

Guess he's still a mental midget even in WTT :o

Edit: haha they originally had Sharapova/Sharapova as having played mens doubles! LMFAO! that would've been funny. I guess :p anyway, I'm amused Andy won both his doubles but couldn't win singles against a total journeyman :o:p

tangerine_dream
07-17-2005, 04:20 AM
Ok, I finally got around to looking at the Indy draw and holy canoley it looks like the Roddick Bitch Convention set up house :eek: Now THIS is what a pisseasy draw looks like. :haha: I echo what everyone has said, if Andy doesn't win this then he is :cuckoo: :smash: :retard: :ignore: :banghead: :silly: :timebomb: :help:

Who do we have lined up?

he starts off with an appetizer of My Favorite Bitch (Xavier) in the third round
then he moves on to the buffet table where he stuffs himself with: either Dark Meat (Blake), Southern Fried Chicken Boy (Ginepri) or The Other White Thai Meat (Paradorn) in the quarters
then he goes home to either his favorite Pillow Pucker (Fish) or Mangina (Beck) in the semis; the Croatian Choad Choker (Ancic) could also be a possibile semi-finalist
and then he rams his Ass Wench (Kiefer), Soggy Bottom Boy (Rusedski) or Cream Tart (Dent) in the final :worship:

Could it BE any easier?

Grease up, boys.

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 04:25 AM
DEAD TANGY JUST DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!! I love you.

acoffeygirl
07-17-2005, 04:27 AM
:worship: :worship: :worship:

superpinkone37
07-17-2005, 05:20 AM
LMFAO TANGY! :haha: :haha:

snaillyyy
07-17-2005, 05:32 AM
I really am going to sleep this time:lol: but had to leave you with the funny expressions :p

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 05:35 AM
dead lmao

andy looks so much younger when he wears the backwards hat, it's crazy!
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Ace's Roddick wows a full house
By Kathleen Nelson
Of the Post-Dispatch
Saturday, Jul. 16 2005

Andy Roddick returned Saturday to his comfort zone in World Team Tennis, Dwight Davis Tennis Center in Forest Park.

"I love it," said Roddick, ranked No. 3 on the ATP circuit. "It's tennis with a difference. You're playing for your teammates."

Roddick also knows that he was playing to the crowd of 2,200, a sellout for the Aces' match against the Newport Beach Breakers.

In the opening set of mixed doubles, his first serve was an ace, leading the crowd to gasp the next time he tossed the ball. He clowned that they should cut
that out, only to have them gasp two more times.:haha: Each time, he responded with an ace. Roddick and partner Jennifer Russell went on to win the set 5-4 over
Ramon Delgado and Anastassia Rodionova, who reached the final of the 2003 Wimbledon mixed doubles with the Aces' Andy Ram as a partner.

Roddick then teamed with Ram for a 5-4 victory in men's doubles over Delgado and Devin Bowen. Roddick mixed the fastest serve in tennis with a soft touch at the net :eek: and a game of hot potato with the ball boys and girls. :haha:

Roddick was making his fourth appearance with the Aces in five years. The string was broken last year, when Roddick had to cancel because of a hip injury he suffered in his loss in the Wimbledon final to Roger Federer.

"That was unfortunate, but I was excited they wanted me back," said Roddick, 22, who has lost to Federer in the Wimbledon final the past two years. "Team tennis gave me a shot when I was 17 and didn't have a ranking. I'll always be grateful for that."

The last time he appeared at Dwight Davis, Roddick was on the cusp of celebrity. After the 2003 WTT season, he won the U.S. Open and finished the season at the top of the ATP rankings. He iced the year by serving as host of "Saturday Night Live." The other A-Rod has yet to do that.

"That seems like forever ago," Roddick said. "It changed the number of people who paid attention to how I hit the ball." :D

Thus, Roddick entered 2004 with bigger expectations. He won four tournaments before running into Federer at Wimbledon, then couldn't repeat at the U.S. Open. After finishing the year ranked No. 3, Roddick parted ways with coach Brad Gilbert and put himself under Dean Goldfine's supervision.

"He's brought a really good work ethic," Roddick said of Goldfine. "We get along so well, and he's really hands-on." :yeah:

Some credit Goldfine with Roddick's improved focus and his maturation into a more complete player, especially for refining his volleying technique. Roddick, though, said the rounding out of his game is a result of the Tiger effect.

"Just like Phil Mickelson and Vijay (Singh) raised their game to compete with Tiger, we've had to get better to stay on the court with Roger," Roddick said. "I'm a better player than I was at No. 1, but he has forced me to do that. I need to volley better to challenge him. It's a necessity because people talk about him as the best player ever. It's cool to be on the other side of that."

Roddick has won three ATP tournaments this season, advanced to the semifinals at the Australian Open but lost in the second round of the French Open. He is ranked third, behind Federer and French Open winner Rafael Nadal.

The Aces have one home match remaining, Thursday against the Kansas City Explorers. For ticket information, call 314-726- 2237.

superpinkone37
07-17-2005, 05:44 AM
andy articles + deb's smilies = LOVE. :hearts:.

blosson
07-17-2005, 07:28 AM
Nice to see happy Andy. He's wearing a white cap in the close up but has changed to his beloved plaid cap for the match? Not important anyways.

heya
07-17-2005, 07:39 AM
LMAO @ the 2004 #3 year end ranking "fact"

:retard: :yawn: LOL @ Andy's helpless attitude.
"OMG I suck & I have no self-control. blah blah"
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Did :lick: Mary Carillo see Andy's Edberg-like personality & his mixture of power & finesse? :devil:

J. Corwin
07-17-2005, 08:29 AM
Cool that he's bringing back the backwards cap for WTT! :yeah: I notice he only strays from the forward cap thing for special events like WTT or exhos or if he's playing tournaments in Asia lol. But I really think it'd be cool :cool: if he'd play sans headgear sometimes. :)

Andy losing to Delgado is :retard: whether it's WTT or not. :p

blosson
07-17-2005, 08:43 AM
Oh Jace, there you go again! Sleepless?

heya
07-17-2005, 09:00 AM
I already said that his attitude's pathetic in WTT & anytime, anywhere else.
Cracked jokes, celebrated his fame, lost focus & the haters enjoyed the choke.
Wasted time in an exhibition.....his game will improve & the confidence is SO high.
Sounds familiar.

The backward hat showed up last year on grass. I reminisce about the farting joke ...I remember so well.

J. Corwin
07-17-2005, 09:22 AM
Oh Jace, there you go again! Sleepless?

:wavey: Not sleepless...just not sleeping. ;) I hate sleeping in this uber swamp heat anyway.

blosson
07-17-2005, 11:01 AM
The backward hat showed up last year on grass. I reminisce about the farting joke ...I remember so well.

I think it was only after he lost to Federer last year that he turned his hat backwards for the throphy ceremony. He didn't bother this year and stayed hidden under his cap.

Golfnduck
07-17-2005, 03:26 PM
Who do we have lined up?

he starts off with an appetizer of My Favorite Bitch (Xavier) in the third round
then he moves on to the buffet table where he stuffs himself with: either Dark Meat (Blake), Southern Fried Chicken Boy (Ginepri) or The Other White Thai Meat (Paradorn) in the quarters
then he goes home to either his favorite Pillow Pucker (Fish) or Mangina (Beck) in the semis; the Croatian Choad Choker (Ancic) could also be a possibile semi-finalist
and then he rams his Ass Wench (Kiefer), Soggy Bottom Boy (Rusedski) or Cream Tart (Dent) in the final :worship:

Could it BE any easier?

Grease up, boys.
LMFAO!!!! :haha: :sobbing: The one that really got me was "Southern Fried Chicken Boy (Ginepri)" :lol:

Black Adam
07-17-2005, 04:37 PM
I already said that his attitude's pathetic in WTT & anytime, anywhere else.
Cracked jokes, celebrated his fame, lost focus & the haters enjoyed the choke.
Wasted time in an exhibition.....his game will improve & the confidence is SO high.
Sounds familiar.

The backward hat showed up last year on grass. I reminisce about the farting joke ...I remember so well.
:confused: really, then it's good news then :yeah:

Iheartandy&roger
07-17-2005, 06:32 PM
Are the RCA championships televised? I thought I seen them last year but maybe i'm a crazy hallucinator....hopefully they are! As for Andy he better kick some hard ass cuz there is no excuse for him not taking this bitch!

Deboogle!.
07-17-2005, 06:34 PM
The semi and Final is on NBC

check the USOpen Series site www.usopenseries.com - they have a full tv listing and stuff.

tangerine_dream
07-18-2005, 02:09 AM
In a way, I'm kind of glad the earlier matches won't be televised because I'm still trying to get my Wimbledon matches edited and organized. lol

So the news of the day is: Andy loses to Delgado in WTT. Well whoopteefreakingdo *twirls finger in air* Get back to me with the :eek: face when he loses to Delgado in a real tournament. :yawn:

heya
07-18-2005, 03:32 AM
He's supposed to be a STAR on hardcourt. Lame.
The same low standards wouldn't apply to anyone else.

Then again, it's JUST LITTLE Andy.
Team Roddick sweeps everything under the rug like nothing bad happened again.
*stomps feet

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 03:59 AM
For the record..... tonight:

MS: de Voest (SPR) def. Delgado (NPB) 5-0

:yeah:

Fumus
07-18-2005, 02:31 PM
WTT loses are like terrible for confidence. :rolleyes:

Anyways, so begins another summer hc season. Deb has my predictions, she's going to post them after they come true.

I think for this to be a successful summer campaign Andy needs to win at least one Mickey Mouse tourney, a master series event, have a win over Federer and make the finals of USO. :D

Anything more than that is gravy, anything less than that is disappointment for me.

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 02:34 PM
Deb has my predictions, she's going to post them after they come true.I do indeed :p

Fumus
07-18-2005, 02:41 PM
I do indeed :p


Deb, looking at them now, do they seem out of the realm of possibility?

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 02:57 PM
Deb, looking at them now, do they seem out of the realm of possibility?Yes, completely and 100% as such. lol!!

Fumus
07-18-2005, 03:21 PM
Good because if they seemed possible, I wouldn't have said something sooo outlandishly crazy.

tangerine_dream
07-18-2005, 03:40 PM
The US Open series is the best thing to happen to American tennis since Andy Roddick. ;) :p :banana:

USTA chief: TV key to growing tennis in USA
By Douglas Robson, Special for USA TODAY
July 18, 2005

As chief executive of professional tennis for the USTA, Arlen Kantarian is the main force behind the US Open Series. The concept, in its second year, attempts to bundle the North American summer hardcourt season into one comprehensive package delivered regularly on TV and culminating with the U.S. Open. Players earn points during several lead-up tournaments in a quasi-playoff race, which allows them to earn up to double the prize money at the Open. Now in his fifth year at the helm, the 52-year-old Kantarian spoke last week with USA TODAY contributor Douglas Robson about the series and the state of tennis in America.

Why is the US Open Series concept a winner?

Television. Tennis now has the same platform as the other major U.S. sports, which is a regular season culminating in a major championship all broadcast live at consistent times every weekend. In addition, it's a terrific example of what can happen when the players, three governing bodies, four networks and tournament owners come together.

How hard was it to get tennis' notorious factions on the same page?

It's a bit like a herd of elephants. It takes a little while longer to come together, but when they do, you can hear them coming from a mile away.

Can you compare this model to other sports?

It's been proven that once you launch a regular season that is linked to a championship game — in our case the U.S. Open — you've built a context, you've been able to tell a season-long story. This is the USTA's attempt to build interest and a higher profile for the sport by offering up the leverage of the U.S. Open, just as other sports have done with the Super Bowl or World Series.

The USTA is charged with growing tennis in the USA. How will the US Open Series help do this?

More television viewers mean more fans, which means more interest, which means more press coverage, which we feel converts to more kids playing tennis. You put tennis on television every weekend, and you'll have kids hopefully going to sleep dreaming about being like Andy Roddick or Venus Williams or Roger Federer.

Is the US Open Series a model that could be repeated, say, heading into the French Open on clay or Wimbledon on grass?

This could certainly provide a template whereby tennis could be considered to have four Super Bowls or four World Series — each of the Grand Slams. In a different context, this has already been done in Australia. Whether it is done in other parts of the world is yet to be seen. Granted, we had two U.S. women in the singles final at Wimbledon, but the ranks coming up look pretty thin.

What's going on with player development in the USA right now?

Years ago we had the Grafs, the Beckers, the Borgs, who were as popular as our American stars. Now we've got the Federers, the Safins, the Sharapovas, the Clijsters up and coming. That plays to the advantage of the sport.

It sounds like you're arguing that the popularity of the sport doesn't depend on U.S. players and that one has to take a more global perspective.

Not necessarily. It is a global sport, and we need to promote our international stars more. But before we lose too much sleep, everybody talked years ago that there might be a dearth of players after the Connors-McEnroe-Borg era, and then a few years later along came names like Sampras, Courier, Agassi and Chang. I think everything is cyclical, and we're confident that'll be the case in women's tennis.

It seems tennis is losing ground to other sports in terms of stature in the USA. Can you explain why?

I'm not sure I agree with your premise. If you look back over the last 10 years, on average, television ratings for sports has been in decline as a whole. We've got a number of activities that compete with sports. The industry as a whole has to fight harder to gain attention. We are holding our own. Over the course of the last three to four years, TV ratings for tennis have held steady or they are up.

Is participation on a grass-roots level up or down?

We have 23 million-plus playing tennis. We've been gaining 5 million a year and losing 5 million a year. What we are working on is the way to retain our players.

That isn't approaching 1970s levels, is it?

No. That was a phenomenon in the '70s. You have 500 different choices for a 6- to 8-year-old kid today, which is very different than the '70s.

What is the status of installing a roof on Arthur Ashe stadium?

At this point, the addition of an $80 million roof does not make financial sense given our history of only eight canceled sessions in the last 10 years. That's $10 million per canceled session. With that kind of money, we can put new rackets in the hands of millions of kids.

How would you describe the state of tennis today?

In the early stages of a resurgence. For the first time in the United States, we have a compelling TV package. We have international stars making a lot of noise in the sport. We have new rivalries. We have the kind of sport that plays into the athleticism, celebrity and fashion aspect of today's world. The product is there.

What are the biggest challenges facing the sport in 2005?

One, we have a better opportunity to bring the leadership of the sport closer together. Second, we can more creatively and aggressively market the players.

tangerine_dream
07-18-2005, 03:46 PM
Tennis begins big promotional push
Sports trying to thwart waning fan interest

By Liz Clarke
The Washington Post
July 18, 2005

Tennis may be steeped in tradition. And when played by wizards such as Belgium's Justine Henin-Hardenne and Switzerland's Roger Federer, it may be the most elegant game ever devised. But it is bordering on irrelevance to American sports fans, who are tuning out in droves -- whether turned off by the lightning pace of play, the preponderance of international players whose names they can't pronounce, or the absence of homegrown hellions like Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe.

While the decline has been evident for more than two decades -- interrupted by surges of interest when Venus and Serena Williams do well -- it reached a low when TV ratings for the 2004 U.S. Open rolled in last fall. With no Americans in the finals, the championship matches drew the smallest TV audience on record: a 2.5 rating for the men's final, which pitted Federer against Australia's Lleyton Hewitt; and a 2.2 for the all-Russian women's final, in which Svetlana Kuznetsova defeated Elena Dementieva.

More than twice as many viewers watched when Serena and Venus faced off in the 2002 U.S. Open final, which drew a 5.2 rating. But even with a dream matchup in its Grand Slam events, tennis is struggling to attract half the audience that NASCAR currently enjoys. This year's Daytona 500 drew a 10.9 rating -- more than four times that of last year's U.S. Open men's final. (Ratings indicated the percentage of all homes with televisions, whether or not they're in use. A 2.5 rating means that 2.5 percent of U.S. households with TVs tuned in to watch.)

Starting Monday, the U.S. Tennis Association takes another swing at reclaiming its eroding audience, rolling out the second year of its U.S. Open Series with a $3 million ad campaign, a new look for tennis courts (blue rather than green) and a roster of nicknames ginned up by marketing executives in an effort to transform players like Germany's Tommy Haas ("the Stud") and France's Amelie Mauresmo ("the Artiste") into household names.

The goal of the U.S. Open Series is to re-energize tennis by introducing the top players -- American and international alike -- to sports fans whose attention has been siphoned off by golf, stock-car racing and every sport and pastime in between.

Longtime sports marketing executive and former Davis Cup captain Donald Dell hails it as the most important thing the USTA has done to promote tennis in the last 50 years.

"I say that very deliberately," said Dell, who was instrumental in brokering the U.S. Open Series TV deal and negotiating the thorny politics of an initiative that involved three governing bodies, four networks, 10 tournaments and three sponsors.

The strategy behind the U.S. Open Series isn't exactly revolutionary. It draws on the basic formula of major league sports, cleaving the North American hard-court calendar in two, with a regular season that culminates in a postseason.

"We've always felt that big-time sports is about telling a season-long story with a big finale," explains Arlen Kantarian, the USTA's chief executive of professional tennis. "The purpose of the U.S. Open Series was to provide tennis with that same platform, which it now has."

In short, all 10 of this summer's North American hard-court tournaments share a common purpose: building toward the season-ending U.S. Open, which kicks off Aug. 29 in New York.

The series begins today in Indianapolis, when the RCA Championships get underway. The women swing into action July 25, at the Bank of the West Classic in Stanford, Calif. Week 3 brings the men to Washington for the Legg Mason Tennis Classic, Aug. 1-7.

At each tournament along the way players collect points in addition to prize money. At summer's end, the top three men and women in the points standings qualify for bonus prize money at the U.S. Open: double prize money for the series champions, which translates to a $2.2 million payday if they win the U.S. Open; a 50 percent bonus for the second-place finishers; and a 25 percent bonus for the third-place finishers.

The tournaments should be easier to find on TV. Every tournament final will be broadcast live at 3 p.m. on Sundays, either by NBC, CBS or ESPN. They'll have a consistent "look," boasting bright blue courts that should make it easier for TV viewers to see the ball.

The USTA is also pouring more than $3 million into a marketing blitz to promote it all, with TV spots, a revamped Internet site and print ads touting the U.S. Open Series as "summer's hottest reality series." In that vein, its executives have bestowed the lead "actors" in tennis's "reality series" with a nickname.

In tennis's heyday, nicknames like "Jimbo" and "Nasty" arose a bit more spontaneously -- blurted out by an announcer or bestowed by a scribe. But with waves of youngsters from all corners of the globe shooting up the rankings overnight, the USTA is desperate to forge a connection, however contrived, between players and the viewing public.

"Tennis is very much of a star sport," Dell said. "The great thing about the U.S. Open Series is, hopefully, you're going to start building new stars."

But whether fans will start referring to Spain's Rafael Nadal as "Boy Wonder" and Russia's Kuznetsova as "the Contender," as the USTA suggests, remains to be seen.

In the interim, 2003 U.S. Open Champion Andy Roddick, whom the USTA has dubbed "Rocket Man," is optimistic about the series' prospects for injecting new interest in the sport.

"It makes it feel like the whole summer is kind of in unison on something," said Roddick, who headlines the draw at Washington's Legg Mason next month. "It may make it a little simpler for the fans knowing that all these tournaments before the Open have a common goal leading up to the Open. They're kind of prep work; they have a direct effect on what might happen at the U.S. Open."

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 04:47 PM
oh my holycrapDEATH your av, tangy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

tangerine_dream
07-18-2005, 05:22 PM
Heh. Thanks Deb :p :lol:

Heads up!
LIVE CHAT WITH ANDY'S ASS WENCH, NICOLAS KIEFER, ON ESPN 2:00PM EST TODAY!!!!

[start] http://pr0xy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=8725 [/end]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

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for some stupid reason, espn keeps blocking out words and won't allow direct linking. Replace the number 0 in the first word in the url with the letter "o" and it should work

espn :rolleyes:

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 05:26 PM
ummmm :/ mtf must be blocking out the ******... type the word with a space or something? LOL

I wonder what MTF's problem with the word ***** (pro xy) is?????

Tangy, it's not ESPN. it's MTF blocking out that word, see, it does it in my posts....

*****server = pro xyserver but nope.

It's MTF.

Fumus
07-18-2005, 06:15 PM
*****...wow...

anyways, um, when does Andy play?

Hows the weather in Indy?

Does anyone else think the feild at Indy is even more pathetic than it was last year? It seems like Andy could have a bunch fun matches...ie..beat downs where he plays silly... :p

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 06:21 PM
Andy will play most likely on Wedesday (probably at night)

Tursunov is winning - pretty easily it looks like, so that's probably who andy will play

the field is weaker b/c it's right after the DC QFs. so Ljubicic is not there, Haas is injured etc.

Lots of Andy-related questions in the Kiefer chat....

Gabby, Boston MA: Nicolas, what do you think you have to do differently this year to finally beat Andy Roddick?

Nicolas Kiefer: (2:07 PM ET ) Everybody knows he has a great serve and is a great competitor, but I serve well also. So I just have to focus on my game and make my forehands.

Laura, KY: Do you think Andy ROddick's serve is overrrated?

Nicolas Kiefer: (2:16 PM ET ) Everybody thinks he has a strong serve.. and he does.. but it's only a serve. Some players, like Federer, don't have any problems with it.


Laura, KY: Following up my question about Roddick's serve, can you break him? Is his serve hard to return for you personally?

Nicolas Kiefer: (2:20 PM ET ) Of course, I feel confident I can break him. I'm getting closer and closer to beating him. When I have my chances I have to take it. I wouldn't go on the court if I didn't think I could break him.

Fumus
07-18-2005, 06:32 PM
Andy Roddick, Texas: Quit hatin' on me! You are my biatch accept it!

superpinkone37
07-18-2005, 06:34 PM
hahaha, you shoulda asked that one ;)


Keifer answered six ( I think ) of my questions! :eek:


Thanks for the link Tangy, that was fun LOL :lol:

Fumus
07-18-2005, 06:37 PM
I asked Kiefer very mean and bad things which I won't share because there are Kiwi fans that I know and love who post here. Suffice to say, they were funny though.

tangerine_dream
07-18-2005, 06:49 PM
That's really weird about MTF blocking the word "p r o x y". Why is that? Neely do you know? :scratch:

I'm glad Kiwi got a lot of questions. A lot referred to Andy and Roger. :lol:

Benson (Chicago): Why can't the US ever win the Davis Cup?

lol. Somebody forgot to clue Benson in that Kiwi is not American and probably could care less about the US DC team. ;)

Here's one for Deb:
Lisa, Alabama: I have heard you are mean to ball kids....WHY???!!!
Nicolas Kiefer: (2:13 PM ET ) That's a mean rumor! I'm a nice guy! Sometimes you have emotions but I've never been mean.

So stop spreading mean rumors around about Kiwi, Deb :p :smash:

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 06:55 PM
Here's one for Deb:
Lisa, Alabama: I have heard you are mean to ball kids....WHY???!!!
Nicolas Kiefer: (2:13 PM ET ) That's a mean rumor! I'm a nice guy! Sometimes you have emotions but I've never been mean.

So stop spreading mean rumors around about Kiwi, Deb :p :smash:Ahem. :angel: I might know who Lisa in Alabama is. (no, not me.)

Anyway, I witnessed it with my own eyes... which I happen to trust more than him. LOL.

surfpinky
07-18-2005, 06:58 PM
Tangy, your av :haha: :bowdown:
:]

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 07:06 PM
Tursunov won in straights, so Andy will play him. :unsure:

Fumus
07-18-2005, 07:09 PM
Ahem. :angel: I might know who Lisa in Alabama is. (no, not me.)

Anyway, I witnessed it with my own eyes... which I happen to trust more than him. LOL.

I think Andre is alittle harsh on them too. Always making them get back in place and such. :)

Fumus
07-18-2005, 07:11 PM
Tursunov won in straights, so Andy will play him. :unsure:

Andy better win 80% of his return games

Neely
07-18-2005, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the hint Tangy and Deb. Of course I joined the chat and even one of my questions was selected :) :angel:

superpinkone37
07-18-2005, 07:23 PM
I'm glad your question was answered, Neely! :D :hug:

castaway
07-18-2005, 08:22 PM
Hi everyone :wavey: my name's Sarah and this is my first post here at mtf. i have to admit, i've been lurking for some time but never had enough time to register and post (stupid school work lol). but now that summer's here i thought this would be the perfect time to join you all in your discussion (and of course critique :p) of andy and the hardcourt (finally!) season.

So hi again :wavey: and all i have to say is andy better deliever a few smackdowns this week... not only for our sanity but from what it seems like around here, for his safety as well ;)

Tytta!.
07-18-2005, 08:25 PM
Welcome, Sarah!

MissFairy
07-18-2005, 08:28 PM
:wavey: Hiya Sarah, i'm, uh, well, Sarah :) :hug:

allanah
07-18-2005, 08:31 PM
Hi Sarah.:) Welcome to Andyland :wavey:

Deboogle!.
07-18-2005, 08:32 PM
Hi Sarah! Welcome :hug: Glad you could finally join up :D Just jump right in :D

heya
07-18-2005, 08:47 PM
Did Andy get a one-handed backhand while he partied hard?
Wow, he quickly found a way to slash Federer & journeymen?
Presto, changeo. The well-respected, undistracted, serious, merciless Andy must be back.
Tursunov...lovely.
Fish will teach Andy a lesson, as he did at the other exhibition.

surfpinky
07-18-2005, 08:54 PM
hi sarah, :wavey: welcome :]

castaway
07-18-2005, 08:56 PM
thanks for the warm welcomes everyone! :hug:

snaillyyy
07-18-2005, 09:00 PM
:bigwave: Hi Sarah!! Welcome :D

blosson
07-18-2005, 09:16 PM
*****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****.

it got to have a filter ***** !

allanah
07-18-2005, 09:22 PM
*****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****, *****.

it got to have a filter ***** !

Wow Bloss, what are you saying that has so many pauses in it? :p

surfpinky
07-18-2005, 09:44 PM
***** :]

zoltan83
07-18-2005, 10:36 PM
Hi Sarah :wavey: Welcome here...

:rolls: Tangy! your av'!!!

PinkFeatherBoa
07-18-2005, 10:49 PM
:wavey: Welcome Sarah, have a ***** free time. (:


So I wanted to test the filter.

snaillyyy
07-18-2005, 10:49 PM
YESSs I can now say there will be something good about tomorrow :p Andy plays at 7pm so I can be here :D:D:D:D

PinkFeatherBoa
07-18-2005, 10:57 PM
YESSs I can now say there will be something good about tomorrow :p Andy plays at 7pm so I can be here :D:D:D:D

Yay Carole :D. Is this Central or Eastern time?

blosson
07-18-2005, 10:57 PM
Tangy, I was eating when I saw the poo caca :awww:

Allanah, I was just testing the filter ;)

blosson
07-18-2005, 11:00 PM
Yay Carole :D. Is this Central or Eastern time?

7.00 pm US time, I will be in my 3rd level of sleep by then. It's that time of the year when I have to the reliefed or shocked by checking the online scoring the next day.

snaillyyy
07-18-2005, 11:02 PM
oops sorry Jenny.....7pm CST :D

PinkFeatherBoa
07-18-2005, 11:04 PM
oops sorry Jenny.....7pm CST :D


Thanks. :kiss:

I♥PsY@Mus!c
07-18-2005, 11:18 PM
The "Title attracts me to come here!" nonsense post! http://www.les-smileys.com/smiley/Smiley/Musique/0054.gif (http://www.les-smileys.com)

Nothng special,but I really like the title :rocker2: even though lots of faves are his bitch. :bigcry: I like here could call a spade a spade. http://www.les-smileys.com/smiley/Smiley/Musique/0044.gif (http://www.les-smileys.com)

guida
07-18-2005, 11:22 PM
Welcome, Sarah II! :wavey:
Andy better be on his toes tomorrow. :unsure:

blosson
07-18-2005, 11:28 PM
oh my carlos, it's been a while I don't see such a huge siggy here at chez andy wow

I♥PsY@Mus!c
07-18-2005, 11:39 PM
Ivan won matches and I was so delighted, http://www.les-smileys.com/smiley/Smiley/Musique/0018.gif (http://www.les-smileys.com) but I will adjust the size soon.

PinkFeatherBoa
07-18-2005, 11:43 PM
Ivan won matches and I was so delighted, http://www.les-smileys.com/smiley/Smiley/Musique/0018.gif (http://www.les-smileys.com) but I will adjust the size soon.

Did Gonzalez win matches too? ;)

Neely
07-18-2005, 11:47 PM
I asked Kiefer very mean and bad things which I won't share because there are Kiwi fans that I know and love who post here. Suffice to say, they were funny though.
you big idiot, Fumus! :ras: :fiery:

you are so mean :sobbing: Kiwi is so nice and cool and everything and you are just mean to him :sad:

Neely
07-18-2005, 11:50 PM
I'm glad your question was answered, Neely! :D :hug:
hehe yeah :angel: :clap2: ...but I asked about four more questions that the moderator did not consider... but probably they have all not been out of enough general interest or they have been just too specifically or not referring to what ESPN wanted to hear LOL :p

blosson
07-18-2005, 11:55 PM
Ivan won matches and I was so delighted, http://www.les-smileys.com/smiley/Smiley/Musique/0018.gif (http://www.les-smileys.com) but I will adjust the size soon.

ok. :lol: viva croatia.

I♥PsY@Mus!c
07-19-2005, 12:11 AM
Did Gonzalez win matches too? ;)

Today he won 62 61 and I'm sure he will win one more title this year. ;)

I♥PsY@Mus!c
07-19-2005, 12:13 AM
ok. :lol: viva croatia.
Never thought you cheer for Croatia. :eek:
Oh,Ivan beat your Andy,so did Gonzo,I should leave this forum soon. :p

PinkFeatherBoa
07-19-2005, 12:21 AM
Vamos Gonzalez and Amjo Croatia. :rocker2:

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 01:04 AM
So.... um......

Go Andy! Beat your bitches;):D

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 01:57 AM
from the tourney site :)
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Tuesday Daily Predictions


ANDY RODDICK 1 (USA) vs. DIMITRY TURSUNOV (RUS)

After three weeks off the road, recent Wimbledon finalist Andy Roddick makes his return to the ATP tour at this week's RCA Championships. Roddick, who has reached the Wimbledon final the past two years where he's lost both times to Roger Federer, is looking to pick up the pace as he starts his summer hard court season. This is Roddick's preferred surface and he arrives here as the two-time defending champion at the RCA Championships, which means that he might live in Austin, Tex., but he feels like he has home court advantage in Indianapolis. The 2003 US Open champ, Roddick has already won three titles this year – San Jose, Houston and a third consecutive victory at the London Queen's event. He's also been to the semifinals at the Australian Open as well as Memphis and Indian Wells.

On his first-round date card at the RCA Championships, Roddick will meet up with Russian Dimitry Tursunov for the first time in his career. Tursunov might have started life out in Moscow, but having lived in the United States since he was 12 ½, he's actually much more of a California guy. Currently ranked No. 119, Tursunov is primarily a force on the Challenger circuit, but his recent Wimbledon outing has got to be the tournament of his lifetime. For the first time ever, he reached the fourth-round at a Grand Slam and he did it in a very dramatic fashion, before falling to Frenchman Sebastien Grosjean in five sets. Before walking away from Wimbledon with his head held up high he created the biggest upset of the tournament for local fans by taking out Britain's very own Tim Henman in a thrilling 3-6, 6-2, 3-6, 6-3, 8-6 second-round victory.

This will be a first time career outing between these two 22-year-olds and Roddick's first visit to the stadium court where he has fared so well. Tursunov might have had a big Wimbledon, but the No. 4 ranked Roddick had an even bigger one and is already looking ahead to his prospects at the US Open.

Tursunov might have his heart in the right place for this match, but Roddick will ride right through to the third-round.

J. Corwin
07-19-2005, 03:21 AM
Hi everyone :wavey: my name's Sarah and this is my first post here at mtf. i have to admit, i've been lurking for some time but never had enough time to register and post (stupid school work lol). but now that summer's here i thought this would be the perfect time to join you all in your discussion (and of course critique :p) of andy and the hardcourt (finally!) season.

So hi again :wavey: and all i have to say is andy better deliever a few smackdowns this week... not only for our sanity but from what it seems like around here, for his safety as well ;)


hey sarah!! :wavey: Lookin forward to more of your posts!! :D :hug:

Iheartandy&roger
07-19-2005, 06:38 AM
Andy will beat all his bitches to a pulp in this tourney GO ANDY!!! :yeah:

superpinkone37
07-19-2005, 06:42 AM
another sarah! :wavey: Which is probably good though because I am so bad with names and wont really have to remember another ;)

zoltan83
07-19-2005, 12:37 PM
another sarah! :wavey: Which is probably good though because I am so bad with names and wont really have to remember another ;)
Absolutely.... And if you've a doubt, just try Caro or Jen... :p The probability to not make a mistake is quite high :p

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 02:12 PM
Ancic pulled out of Indy :eek:

Please Andy, don't screw this up :)

Golfnduck
07-19-2005, 02:20 PM
Hi everyone :wavey: my name's Sarah and this is my first post here at mtf. i have to admit, i've been lurking for some time but never had enough time to register and post (stupid school work lol). but now that summer's here i thought this would be the perfect time to join you all in your discussion (and of course critique :p) of andy and the hardcourt (finally!) season.

So hi again :wavey: and all i have to say is andy better deliever a few smackdowns this week... not only for our sanity but from what it seems like around here, for his safety as well ;)
Hi Sarah :hug: Welcome to Duckyville!!

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 02:23 PM
Andy (and CuteDean!) in the Indy Paper.... he got an article too!
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Taking a different approach
Roddick's coaching switch gives him 'good vibe'

By Mark Ambrogi
mark.ambrogi@indystar.com
July 19, 2005

Dean Goldfine figured Andy Roddick could handle the truth.

Yes, Roddick had won a Grand Slam tournament and been ranked No. 1 in the world, but there was room for improvement.

His bluntness landed him the job as Roddick's coach.

"I liked his honesty when we met last December," Roddick said. "He wasn't just trying to tell me what I wanted to hear. He said, 'You have to get in better shape. You're playing well, but you're playing well with 50 percent of your body.' I really embraced the fact that he wasn't scared to tell me what he really thought." :yeah: :worship:

Roddick, the No. 1 seed in this week's RCA Championships at the Indianapolis Tennis Center, fired coach Brad Gilbert after 1 1/2 seasons at the end of 2004. Roddick, 22, won nine titles and his only Grand Slam, the 2003 U.S. Open, under Gilbert's tutelage.

Neither has discussed the reasons for the parting, but coaching often is a revolving door on the ATP Tour. Some players feel the need to change coaches every two or three years; some don't have one.

Taylor Dent, the RCA No. 4 seed, is part of the latter group.

"I'm just traveling with a buddy now," Dent said. "It gets lonely on the tour, so he helps me keep loose. But if I feel a need for a coach tomorrow, I'll hire one."

Top-ranked Roger Federer didn't have a coach in 2004. He now has Tony Roche in his corner on a part-time basis.

Goldfine said in every sport there are times when players and coaches need a change.

"It happens especially in tennis because there is so much one-on-one coaching and you spend so much time together," he said. "If the player-coach relationship becomes stale, then what the coach is saying goes in one ear and out the other. So it's important for the coach not to take the relationship for granted and find different ways to get their points across."

Goldfine, 40, coached Todd Martin for seven years before becoming a United States Tennis Association High Performance coach in January 2003. Roddick got to know Goldfine better when the coach was assisting with the 2004 U.S. Olympic team. Roddick, Goldfine and Mardy Fish shared living quarters.

When Roddick decided to change coaches, Goldfine was on his list to interview. They clicked.

"I love the energy that Dean has," Roddick said. "I love his work ethic. We've been working real, real hard even in off weeks when we're not in tournaments. It's been a real good vibe."

Goldfine has done little to alter the look and pace of Roddick's game, which still revolves around a dominant serve and attacking groundstrokes (oh... :sad: ). But Roddick has heeded Goldfine's advice to improve his conditioning.

"I'm not battling so many little knick-knack injuries like I was last year," Roddick said. "I feel that kind of takes a load off my mind."

Roddick, ranked fourth on the ATP Tour, is 37-8 with three titles this year. He's trying to win a third consecutive RCA Championships title this week.

"I didn't feel like I was playing my best earlier in the year," he said. "I feel like I turned the corner when I was in London." :scratch:

Roddick won the Queen's Club tournament on grass in June and then lost to Federer in the Wimbledon final. It was the third consecutive year Roddick had been eliminated by Federer at Wimbledon, also losing in the 2003 semifinals and 2004 final.

Roddick, who is 1-9 against Federer, said he is putting in the effort to get past his Swiss nemesis.

"I've been getting criticized for being second-best in the world for a while," Roddick said. "That's a little tough, but people are talking about Roger being the best of all time. I think it's a valid argument. He's just a great, great player. I just have to keep at it and keep working.":)

Goldfine said there are other ways to measure success.

"One of the things I've stressed to Andy and all the players I've worked with is to get them to maximize their potential and be the best players they can possibly be," he said.:):)

Dirk
07-19-2005, 02:41 PM
Andy should win this and Mason the week after. He should also go deep in both masters. I'm actually looking forward to seeing some tennis on TV again. Do they show it on Friday or just the two final days.

Fumus
07-19-2005, 03:03 PM
you big idiot, Fumus! :ras: :fiery:

you are so mean :sobbing: Kiwi is so nice and cool and everything and you are just mean to him :sad:

Neely you know I love you.

Kiefer is annoying, I don't like his game and I don't like how he talks sugar smacks about Andy all the time. Sides that, he's cool with me, he's never done anything to piss me off personally...like cut me off whilst I was driving...or hit my mom or anything like that :)

Dirk
07-19-2005, 03:05 PM
Kiefer talked smack to Andy????? Kiefer is a streaky shotmaker. He is fun to watch.

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 03:17 PM
I don't like how he talks sugar smacks about Andy all the time.....oh come on Ryan, you loved how he said he was looking forward to breaking Andy and then failed to do so three consecutive times :)

tangerine_dream
07-19-2005, 03:22 PM
Kiefer is annoying, I don't like his game and I don't like how he talks sugar smacks about Andy all the time.
I like Kiwi's game, he's got a great set of gams :hearts: and I love how he talks smack about Andy. :devil: Sometimes I wish Andy would talk smack about *ahem* other players but whatever. :p My favorite comment from Kiwi was last year when Andy made that amazing on-the-run-from-behind shot and got a standing ovation for it but Kiwi looked disgusted and was like, "Big deal!" :haha:

Fumus
07-19-2005, 03:23 PM
....oh come on Ryan, you loved how he said he was looking forward to breaking Andy and then failed to do so three consecutive times :)

Yea, I love Kiwi's attitude towards Andy. The "don't give him respect and drink my haterade" atttitude.

I guess it's not personal towards Andy, cuz yesterday, Kiwi said he "knows he can beat Roger" and that "[he's] the number 1 player". :o

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 03:23 PM
I like Kiwi's game, he's got a great set of gams :hearts:What do his legs have to do with his game?!!? You're terrible, tangy :haha::haha:

Fumus
07-19-2005, 03:26 PM
What do his legs have to do with his game?!!? You're terrible, tangy :haha::haha:

Well, Deb I am no physiologist but, I think without them he wouldn't move too well on the court :D

Deboogle!.
07-19-2005, 03:27 PM
Well, Deb I am no physiologist but, I think without them he wouldn't move too well on the court :DI don't think that was what tangy meant :p


btw, very impressed by your spelling of physiologist ;) :bigclap: