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H2Hs in the Round of 16

Tennis Fool
06-25-2005, 07:12 PM
1 Federer SWE v. 4 Ferrero ESP. Federer leads 5-3. They have never met on grass. Federer has won the last three meetings.

21 Gonzalez ARG vs. 31 Youzhny RUS. These two have never met.

3 Hewitt AUS vs. 24 Dent USA. Hewitt leads 3-1. Dent won the last mtg. They have met before at Wimbledon. Hewitt won: 2001 R64 Hewitt 1 6 7 5 6 3 6 7 6 3

10 Ancic CRO vs. 26 Lopez ESP. These two have never met.

12 Thomas Johannsen SWE vs. Mirnyi BEL. Thomas leads 4-0. Last grass mtg: 2004 Nottingham, Grass R32 Johansson 2 6 6 1 6 4

18 Nalbandian ARG vs. 27 Gasquet FRA. Nalbandian leads 2-0. Both victories were on clay.

9 Grosjean FRA vs. Tursunov RUS. These two have never met.

2 Roddick USA vs. 15 Coria ARG. Roddick leads 4-0.

Tennis Fool
06-25-2005, 07:13 PM
Any thoughts on these upcoming matches?

oneandonlyhsn
06-25-2005, 07:18 PM
I am looking forward to the Federer vs Ferrero match. This should be interesting, JC has been playing really well, and seems to be rolling over mainly grass players, and Federer is a bit streaky so who knows might be a really good match. Since this grass I give the edge to Federer.

Ancic vs Lopez I think will be awesome, I love lefties and those serves are so hard to read. Ancic has his work cut out for him, I am not sure but I think Lopez might pull an upset here.

Nalbandian vs Gasquet will be awesome, Nalbandians serve is well just bad. Gasquet has a solid return game, and I think his fitness is better than Murray. Should be very interesting.


As for the rest I'm not sure about how I feel about them.

allanah
06-25-2005, 07:26 PM
I am looking forward to the Federer vs Ferrero match. This should be interesting, JC has been playing really well, and seems to be rolling over mainly grass players, and Federer is a bit streaky so who knows might be a really good match. Since this grass I give the edge to Federer.



I agree with that. Ferrero was superb against Mayer today. If Federer plays the same game he did v Kiefer he'll certainly come unstuck

As far as Roddick v Coria goes, as a Roddick fan, I'm glad that Andy has such a good H2H against him but I'm not sure how relevant it is since they've never met on grass before. Coria has obviously found his feet on this surface now. If he plays the way he did today, I think Roddick will win it, but not in straight sets.

Cervantes
06-25-2005, 07:33 PM
1 Federer SWE v. 4 Ferrero ESP Gotta give the edge to Roger here having won last 3 meetings and 31 straight on grass. Roger in 3.

21 Gonzalez ARG vs. 31 Youzhny RUS He, another Argentinian in the 4th round ;) Gonzalez CHI in 4.

3 Hewitt AUS vs. 24 Dent USA Tough to call, I don't find Hewitt's form all that convincing. Still I think he will pull through, probably losing a set.

10 Ancic CRO vs. 26 Lopez ESP Another tough one, but I think Ancic will come through eventually. Ancic played some solid stuff in the first week and he seems really focused. Ancic in 4.

12 Thomas Johannsen SWE vs. Mirnyi BEL Mirnyi only one of two non-seeds to make it through to the second week. H2H really favors ToJo, although I think this might be close. ToJo in 5.

18 Nalbandian ARG vs. 27 Gasquet FRANalbandian leads H2H 2-0, but Gasquet has really improved a lot over the last couple of months. Unless Nalbandian improves substantially over his performance today I see Gasquet running away with this one. Gasquet in 3.

9 Grosjean FRA vs. Tursunov RUS Tursunov is the surprise in the 4th round. After his victory over Henman I thought he'd end up losing to Popp, but he got through that match as well. 4th round will be the end of the line for him as Grosjean is too solid for him. Grosjean in 3.

2 Roddick USA vs. 15 Coria ARG Although I'd like to you really can't go against Andy here. The courts seem to be slower than ever, but still the Roddick serve will dominate this match. Roddick in 3.

Tennis Fool
06-25-2005, 07:39 PM
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18 Nalbandian ARG vs. 27 Gasquet FRANalbandian leads H2H 2-0, but Gasquet has really improved a lot over the last couple of months.
Gasquet has really become another player since his when over Fed. I also think he's been pushed to succeed by Nadal.

Fedex
06-25-2005, 07:57 PM
Gasquet has really become another player since his when over Fed. I also think he's been pushed to succeed by Nadal.
Maybe

GoranIvanisevic546346
06-25-2005, 09:04 PM
Federer vs. Ferrero
Roger ofcourse, but in 4...Ferrero could give him hard time
Youzhny vs. Gonzalez
Could be in 5 sets, little advantage to Fernando
Hewitt vs. Dent
Taylor in 4, Hewitt just doesnt seem in-form
Ancic vs. Lopez
Lopez is frustrated when facing big servers, Ancic is one of them. Mario in 4.
Johansson vs. Mirnyj
Tough call, Mirnyj looked great in first weak. Max in 5.
Nalbandian vs. Gasquet
Probably greatest match od last 16, i give Nalby edge. I know he is in bad shape, but Im not sold on Gasquets, he lacks strenght.
Grosjean vs. Tursunov
Dima is having best days of his life, so...Tursunov in 5
Roddick vs. Coria
Roddick in 4

savesthedizzle
06-25-2005, 09:08 PM
Well since JC did have match points against Federer in their last meeting in Dubai, and has been playing really well here, I am excited to see that match. As a JC fan though I'm of course scared that Roger will bring his game to the next level after being threatened by Kiwi today.

I'm also looking forward to Ancic/Lopez. I could see either one of them winning that match.

Stevens Point
06-25-2005, 09:11 PM
1 Federer SWE v. 4 Ferrero ESP. Federer leads 5-3. They have never met on grass. Federer has won the last three meetings.

21 Gonzalez ARG vs. 31 Youzhny RUS. These two have never met.

3 Hewitt AUS vs. 24 Dent USA. Hewitt leads 3-1. Dent won the last mtg. They have met before at Wimbledon. Hewitt won: 2001 R64 Hewitt 1 6 7 5 6 3 6 7 6 3

10 Ancic CRO vs. 26 Lopez ESP. These two have never met.

12 Thomas Johannsen SWE vs. Mirnyi BEL. Thomas leads 4-0. Last grass mtg: 2004 Nottingham, Grass R32 Johansson 2 6 6 1 6 4

18 Nalbandian ARG vs. 27 Gasquet FRA. Nalbandian leads 2-0. Both victories were on clay.

9 Grosjean FRA vs. Tursunov RUS. These two have never met.

2 Roddick USA vs. 15 Coria ARG. Roddick leads 4-0.
A very slight correction. Federer is not from Sweden (SWE), but from Switzerland (SUI) ;)
Fernando Gonzalez is from Chili. ;)

Black Adam
06-25-2005, 09:32 PM
Fernando Gonzalez is from Chili. ;)Another very slight correction: Gonzo comes from CHILE not Chili which is a spice:)

Stevens Point
06-25-2005, 09:36 PM
Another very slight correction: Gonzo comes from CHILE not Chili which is a spice:)
Oh What did I....! :eek: Thanks, TGS!!

Black Adam
06-25-2005, 09:43 PM
Oh What did I....! :eek: Thanks, TGS!!
:lol: don't mention ;) :yeah:

Daniel
06-25-2005, 09:58 PM
my picks:
Roger
Youzhny
Dent
Lopez

JustmeUK
06-25-2005, 10:37 PM
Gasquet has really become another player since his when over Fed. I also think he's been pushed to succeed by Nadal.

Undoubtedly his win against Fed has provided added impetus in his climb to the top. Some say Nadal has more determination. I would be disinclined to agree. Let's not forget Richard won his first ATP match as a 15 year old and then sunk like a rock following that. Given all the pressure that has been heaped on his shoulder by the French (who are just as eager if not more so for French tennis success than the British), that he went back to play Future and Challengers and learnt to win and then come back this year illustrates his strength of character. Lesser players would have disappeared. Richard I think has plenty enough cojones to aim for the top and match Nadal for grit.

JustmeUK
06-25-2005, 10:48 PM
Roger in 3 over Ferrero I think. JCF does not possess the skills that Kiefer has on grass and I think the match won't be that close. Still the one I'll be watching though.

Gonzo over Youzhny in 3 or 4 depending on how many UEs he makes. I definitely didn't see him taking out JJ in 3 like he did.

Lleyton in 3 over Dent unless Dent is red hot in which case Lleyton in 4. Dent has only one way to win - play like a god and hope Hewitt has an off day. If both play to their best, Lleyton still has too much on the ground for Taylor.

Ancic over Lopez. Mario has the experience and better grass court game (even if Lopez is the most adept of the Spainiards on grass). Also the confidence of winning his first ATP title must surely give him a boost to go one/two better than his SF loss to Roddick last year.

ToJo v Mirnyi. Hard to call. If ToJo's game of the ground is hot he should possess too much for Mirnyi at the net. However, what little I've seen of him this year hardly suggests he is in the best form of his life. His forehand this year has been a downright liability at times. I hope Mirnyi in 4 or 5 (for sentimental reasons!)

Gasquet over Nalbandian in 3. David needed 5 against Andy Murray and we all know Richard is miles ahead of Andy. Can't see David winning this unless he really picks up his form. Form may be temporary and class permanent - unfortunately for David, Richard may possess more class than anyone else bar Federer.

Grosjean over Tursunov in 4/5. Dmitri has a huge serve but Seba has this knack of playing amazing tennis on grass.

Roddick over Coria in 3. Coria has done better than most expected on grass but in Roddick he's meeting probably the second best player on grass at this point in time.

PamV
06-25-2005, 10:55 PM
18 Nalbandian ARG vs. 27 Gasquet FRA. Nalbandian leads 2-0. Both victories were on clay.

2 Roddick USA vs. 15 Coria ARG. Roddick leads 4-0.

I find it interesting that Nalbandian has played Gasquet two times, and that he has a winning record. I didn't think Gasquet had been around long enough to play many of the current players.

Wow, Roddick's H2H is the most one sided of all the R16 match ups. More proof that he has an easy draw. I'd give Coria zero chance.....I don't know how he's made it this far given that grass is his worst surface. OK now looking at what draw Coria had I can see some what. 1st R: Behrend ; 2nd R: Malisse; 3rd R: Melzer. It's not like Coria beat a tough grass court opponent to get there.

allanah
06-25-2005, 11:04 PM
Wow, Roddick's H2H is the most one sided of all the R16 match ups. More proof that he has an easy draw. I'd give Coria zero chance.....I don't know how he's made it this far given that grass is his worst surface. OK now looking at what draw Coria had I can see some what. 1st R: Behrend ; 2nd R: Malisse; 3rd R: Melzer. It's not like Coria beat a tough grass court opponent to get there.

I'm seeing that repeated a lot and I don't understand what the point is. It's only an 'easy' draw because the pple expected to challenge him - Ljubicic (who beat him the last time they met), Henman (who beat him the last time they met) and Karlovic (who he couldn't break) lost 'prematurely'.

Of course whether he had a lucky draw or not is subjective but change the record. Please.

Havok
06-25-2005, 11:07 PM
Malisse is a tough grass court player. Had it not beeon for his medical scare in the 02 semis vs Nalbandian at Wimbledon, he could have made the finals. Xavier can play on anything really, but his game suits the faster surfaces since he plays very flat for the most part. a 4-0 lead in the h2h for Andy over Coria in the round of 16 doesn't mean anything to his "easy draw". He actually had a fairly tough draw (Karlovic in 2r, henman/Grosjean in the qf), but everybody was dropping like flies, nobody can control that.:p

Jennay
06-25-2005, 11:16 PM
1 Federer SWE v. 4 Ferrero ESP. Federer leads 5-3. They have never met on grass. Federer has won the last three meetings.
Really pulling for JC here. How awesome would it be for his confidence? :worship: He's going to have to play an amazing match, though. :unsure:

21 Gonzalez ARG vs. 31 Youzhny RUS. These two have never met.
I'll go with Gonzo.

3 Hewitt AUS vs. 24 Dent USA. Hewitt leads 3-1. Dent won the last mtg. They have met before at Wimbledon. Hewitt won: 2001 R64 Hewitt 1 6 7 5 6 3 6 7 6 3
Dent has a real chance here. He's playing well.

10 Ancic CRO vs. 26 Lopez ESP. These two have never met.
Mario, hands down. :yeah:

12 Thomas Johannsen SWE vs. Mirnyi BEL. Thomas leads 4-0. Last grass mtg: 2004 Nottingham, Grass R32 Johansson 2 6 6 1 6 4
ToJo. He's been playing well lately.

18 Nalbandian ARG vs. 27 Gasquet FRA. Nalbandian leads 2-0. Both victories were on clay.
David isn't playing at his best, I don't think. On the other hand, his comeback against Murray might have given him some confidence. It's 50-50 for me. :shrug:

9 Grosjean FRA vs. Tursunov RUS. These two have never met.
Seb.

2 Roddick USA vs. 15 Coria ARG. Roddick leads 4-0.
No offense to Coria, because I love Guille, but if Andy loses to him on grass: please retire.

deliveryman
06-25-2005, 11:17 PM
Roger def. JCF 6-3, 7-6, 6-4

A relatively easy match for Roger. I predict 2 breakers and 1 tie break. Roger will be in control the entire match, with 3 relatively tight sets.

Gonzo def. Youzhny 7-6, 6-7, 6-4, 6-3

Simply, Gonzo's devastating forehand is going to be too much. A tiebreak should decide whether or not this thing is going to a forth set.

Hewitt def. Dent 4-6, 6-3, 7-5, 3-6, 6-4

Lleyon, although is not in good form, is going to have to come up with some very nice passing shots in this one. After losing the first set, and Dent playing with a load of confidence, Hewitt is going to bounce back and show why he's #2 in the world.

Mario def. Feli 6-4, 7-5, 7-6

Mario, easily the 3rd best grasscourter on the planet. With such a great game on grass, Ancic will dispose of a fighting Feli in 3 very tight sets.

T. Johansson def. Mirnyi 6-3, 4-6, 7-6, 6-4

Tojo should be too much for this double's specialist who's having a suprisingly very good wimbledon.

Nalbandian def. Gasquet 6-2, 3-6, 7-5, 6-2
Gasquet has had an unbelievable run. Being only 18 years old though, I think he's going to lack the experience needed verses this former Wimbledon runner-up. Nalbandian had quite a scare last round against another up and comer, and won't make the same mistakes.

Tursunov def. Grosjean 6-4, 7-5, 3-6, 7-6

First Henman then Popp. What a nice tournament Dimitry is having... and it's going to continue in another upset in a solid victory over a decent grasscourter in Grosjean.

Coria def. Roddick 4-6, 7-5, 3-6, 7-6, 9-7

Yep... going for what would be considered a great upset here. I just don't think Andy has been inform lately, although he did handle Andreev quite easily. Roddick is going to get caught in too many baseline rallies, where I think Coria is superior, even on grass... especially with a struggling Roddick. Roddick is going to let this easy draw get away from him in a tough 5 setter.

jazz_girl
06-25-2005, 11:19 PM
Actually, David has been playing great matches against Sluiter and Kucera, this one's another story though...I think if he plays at the same level as those matches or better, he can beat Gasquet.

Skyward
06-25-2005, 11:19 PM
nobody can control that.:p

Right, but "weak" seeds are quite predictable. :p

Tennis Fool
06-25-2005, 11:20 PM
Wow, Roddick's H2H is the most one sided of all the R16 match ups.

Well, the Beast has never beaten ToJo either.

Coria his respective matchup with Roddick:

Q. Now your tormenter, Andy Roddick.

GUILLERMO CORIA: Yes, it's going to be a good match because it will show me where I am, what my level is in this type of surface.

But I'd love to have him in front of me to play him ‑ be it at Roland Garros or on a clay court. I always have to play him on grass.

Q. You've seen him 140 miles an hour at Key Biscayne; you've seen him at the Masters. What is it going to look like on grass?

GUILLERMO CORIA: Yes, but I am happy with my level. I didn't serve the same way in previous matches, but I am confident with my serve and that gives me confidence to face up to the match.

Skyward
06-25-2005, 11:26 PM
Really pulling for JC here. How awesome would it be for his confidence? :worship:

Sure. It will also improve the confidence level of all people left in the draw. :p

Tennis Fool
06-25-2005, 11:31 PM
Has anyone actually seen Dent play? Is he actually in shape?

Deboogle!.
06-25-2005, 11:34 PM
Has anyone actually seen Dent play? Is he actually in shape?not really, he was previously out for 2 months with a bad ankle injury. But i'd say he's playing ok.

NYCtennisfan
06-25-2005, 11:37 PM
Federer vs. Ferrero
Maybe one tough set but I think Federer will find his form and roll

Youzhny vs. Gonzalez
Gonzo has been playing about as good as anyone at Wimby this year but you never know what will happen with him. Gonzo should win, but I have a feeling that he will have a bad day. Youzhny in 5.

Hewitt vs. Dent
Dent will have to get a very high % of 1st serves in to have a chance. Maybe he wins a TB. LH in 4.

Ancic vs. Lopez

Ancic should win this but something is telling me Lopez is going to pull the upset. Lopez in 5.

Johansson vs. Mirnyj
Max has looked good but Tojo plays really well against him. Tojo in 5.

Nalbandian vs. Gasquet
Gasquet has a great chance at the SF and I think he will beat Nalby in 4.

Grosjean vs. Tursunov
Tursunov has been playing great, probably better than Grosjean. Seb has the experience here but I think Tursunov pull it out in 4.

Roddick vs. Coria
This is just a bad matchup for Coria. He couldn't Roddick on claycourts or hardcourts so I think Roddick in 3 easy sets. I hope I'm wrong though.

NYCtennisfan
06-25-2005, 11:42 PM
Roddick's draw is easy because all the very good grasscourt players are on the other side. Federer, LH, and Ancic are all on one side for some reason. I don't think it would matter though. I think Roddick would've made it to the finals in any case. It's Federer that he can't beat right now.

I do think that GAsquet might be able to give him a battle though.

Deboogle!.
06-25-2005, 11:50 PM
Roddick's draw is easy because all the very good grasscourt players are on the other side.Grosjean is a VERY good grasscourt player. Andy just happens to own him on the surface. :) Popp is very good, especially at Wimbledon, but he lost today. And don't forget that Henman was in his quarter and Karlovic was supposed to be his 2nd round opponent. It's not his fault some of the "very good grasscourt players" on his side of the draw lost before they faced him.

Skyward
06-26-2005, 12:02 AM
Andy just happens to own him on the surface.

On all surfaces. He can't beat Roddick even on clay and that suggests a very bad match up.

oneandonlyhsn
06-26-2005, 12:06 AM
Grosjean is a VERY good grasscourt player. Andy just happens to own him on the surface. :) Popp is very good, especially at Wimbledon, but he lost today. And don't forget that Henman was in his quarter and Karlovic was supposed to be his 2nd round opponent. It's not his fault some of the "very good grasscourt players" on his side of the draw lost before they faced him.

Sorry but I think Grosjean is overrated, and Karlovic if you can return serve you can pretty much beat the guy.
Henman :o , dont even get me started, he shouldnt even be in the top 10.

I have a strong gut feeling the Lopez is going to pull off the upset. Someone said that Lopez has trouble against big servers, If you watched the match against Safin, Lopez was returning quite a few of those 130 miles/h serves. Plus he has so much spin in his backhand, I just have this feeling that Lopez is going to do it.

Coria def. Roddick 4-6, 7-5, 3-6, 7-6, 9-7

Yep... going for what would be considered a great upset here. I just don't think Andy has been inform lately, although he did handle Andreev quite easily. Roddick is going to get caught in too many baseline rallies, where I think Coria is superior, even on grass... especially with a struggling Roddick. Roddick is going to let this easy draw get away from him in a tough 5 setter.

Well Coria would have to return serve (the bombs) first to be able to have a rally ;) Dont get me wrong I like Coria but Ijust dont see him doing anything to shake up Duckyboy

NYCtennisfan
06-26-2005, 01:56 AM
The only other good grasscourt player on Roddick's side was Ivo and if you have a couple of good return games, you'll beat him. Grosjean is a good grasscourt player but he is not Ancic or Hewitt. You would think at least Ancic would be on the other side of the draw. In any case, it doesn't matter. I think Roddick would wind up beating them all but it would take more of a toll mentally before he got to Federer.