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Gasquet quietly doing really well on grass...

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2005, 07:52 PM
When you see his game, you know he can excel on this surface. He beat Ancic at Queen's, won a set from Stepankek, and now is in the semis again this week. I really think he can get to the 4th round at Wimbly and take on Stepanek. If he learned anything from last time, he can really be a QF this year in SW19. Go Richie!

Deivid23
06-16-2005, 07:54 PM
Props to him, I´d like him to do well also on grass.

rofe
06-16-2005, 07:56 PM
I would like him to get deep into Wimbly as well because I think he has a very nice looking game but I think he will not be able to survive 5-setters. He still needs to increase his stamina.

Qaatar
06-16-2005, 08:00 PM
Wimbledon doesn't require nearly as much stamina as RG, so Gasquet shouldn't burn out like he did against Rafa in round 3 RG. If Nadal gets to the third round, Gasquet will probably do him in fairly easily.

Chloe le Bopper
06-16-2005, 08:02 PM
Wimbledon doesn't require nearly as much stamina as RG, so Gasquet shouldn't burn out like he did against Rafa in round 3 RG. If Nadal gets to the third round, Gasquet will probably do him in fairly easily.
Gasquet did not "burn out" at Roland Garros. He didn't even have a chance to get started before finding himself smacked down :p

That said, I would favour him on grass over Rafa if it happens this year, seeing as I haven't seen Rafa on grass for two years and Richard has posted decent results on the surface recently.

I hope the match comes off.

delsa
06-16-2005, 08:07 PM
Wimbledon doesn't require nearly as much stamina as RG, so Gasquet shouldn't burn out like he did against Rafa in round 3 RG. If Nadal gets to the third round, Gasquet will probably do him in fairly easily.
I don't think so... If it happens Nadal will be hypermotivated to beat him and we all know what it looks like when Nadal is like this. And Gasquet will have to get to the third round too: it won't be that easy...But it's true that his lack of endurance won't bother him on grass...

silverwhite
06-16-2005, 08:11 PM
We'll see how he fares in Wimby. Doing well at Queen's and Nottingham can be misleading. Remember last year's Nottingham and Rosmalen winners? :tape:

SwissMister1
06-16-2005, 08:13 PM
I'm really hoping Richie can make the QFs, but if not I just hope it is anyone other than the ugly guy with the huge lips. That is all I ask.

gooner88
06-16-2005, 08:16 PM
Watched Gasquet's match today, and he played really well.
Should have won in straight sets, but got sloppy at 4-4 in the second set.
He returned serve well and his backhand was on fire as usual.

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2005, 08:29 PM
I think Nadal and GAsquet will play in the 3rd round but I don't think it will be an easy match for GAsquet at all but I do think he will win. At RG, Gasquet had plenty of chances to get into the match early but was way too nervous. He blew lots of easy BH's at 15-30's, 30-alls, etc. I don't think he thought he could beat Nadal but I do think he will be more confident on this surface.

LaTenista
06-16-2005, 08:30 PM
Watched Gasquet's match today, and he played really well.
Should have won in straight sets, but got sloppy at 4-4 in the second set.
He returned serve well and his backhand was on fire as usual.

Thanks for the report. I'm looking forward to being at TMS Cincinnati this August for his debut.

Allez Richard!

Suzi
06-16-2005, 08:32 PM
I think nadal & Gasquet will meet in 3rd rnd and believe that Richard does have the game to beat nadal and he will have more confidence on the surface because of the matches & tournis he has been doing and currently in!

rofe
06-16-2005, 08:32 PM
I think Nadal and GAsquet will play in the 3rd round but I don't think it will be an easy match for GAsquet at all but I do think he will win. At RG, Gasquet had plenty of chances to get into the match early but was way too nervous. He blew lots of easy BH's at 15-30's, 30-alls, etc. I don't think he thought he could beat Nadal but I do think he will be more confident on this surface.

I don't know about that. Nadal's intensity is big factor in any game. This may not be Nadal's surface but I think Gasquet could easily lose if Nadal's intensity starts to bother him like it did in the FO.

vincayou
06-16-2005, 08:38 PM
It's for sure the surface where he has the best chance to beat Rafa. But none of them is in the 3rd round yet. I think that Rafa will go there pretty easily, but Richie has Kohlschreiber in the 1st round and with the pressure of a grand slam, it will be a real test right from the start.

Then, the outcome of Rafa-Richie is hard to predict as Rafael hasn't played much on grass this year and I think that everybody noticed how much he has improved these last month. I hope at least, that Richie will give him the change this time. After that, the road is pretty open for them until the semi with no big favourite in their quarter (they won't be favourite either). Then, another occasion for a teen to shine in a grand slam.

robinhood
06-16-2005, 09:03 PM
Eagerly looking forward to Rafa-Rich 3rd round. Again!

Marine
06-16-2005, 09:14 PM
Nadal will lose before 3rd round.

oneandonlyhsn
06-16-2005, 09:22 PM
I think Gasquet has the game for grass, if he can return better and maintain his energy levels he will do well in Wimby. Allez Gasqy

Deivid23
06-16-2005, 09:22 PM
Nadal will lose before 3rd round.

He should not even travel to London

Marine
06-16-2005, 09:28 PM
He should not even travel to London

I think Paul Henri Mathieu should not travel to London (1st round vs Roger), it's a waste of time.
Nadal can win some matches, but I'm not sure he's motived enough to go far.

delsa
06-16-2005, 09:29 PM
Nadal will lose before 3rd round.
Don't count on that because i think he won't. I just hope that his 3rd round opponent will be Gasquet.

richard gasquet
06-16-2005, 09:34 PM
Nadal will lose before 3rd round.

well dont know :rolleyes:

as for richard, he plays a very good grass tourney and has nice wins over grass players such as ancic and srichapan.Hope he will reach another finale and why not win his first tournament on his birthday :)

Allez!

Denise
06-16-2005, 09:36 PM
That's really nice... congrats to Gasquet for going well on grass ;)

Neumann
06-16-2005, 09:57 PM
Yeah, as I said last week...

I've always thougt that Gasquet's game (when on) is perfect for grass. His serve is really good, and his volleys, both BH and FH, are superb. And he is a great returner, taking the ball early. And what to add about his powerful groundies :worship: ? Obviously this is the definition of a great, great player (top 5) which he isn't just yet, but with consistency he'll be the real deal. I hope he progresses adequately.

For me it was a surprise that he started reaping good results on clay, and I think he'll end up with better game on hard and grass.

Anyway good luck, cause I want to keep enjoying your beatiful tennis and nice personality, and keep improving Richie!! :D

So I really think if pressure and stamina are no obstacles, he will do well in Wimbledon. And that includes a possible (if both make it through the third round) 3-4 set defeat of Nadal. Aaagh, I like the draw of Rafa but after the two first rounds the one I didn't want at all was Richie!

Well, at least this way it is more likely that one out of the two prodigies (I repeat, Gasquet IMO) will make to the fourth. Go kids!! :worship:

tennisgirl19
06-16-2005, 10:33 PM
as for richard, he plays a very good grass tourney and has nice wins over grass players such as ancic and srichapan.Hope he will reach another finale and why not win his first tournament on his birthday :)

Allez!

I agree. Let Richard win his first title here on his birthday. I like the sound of that!!

Allez Richard :bounce:

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2005, 11:06 PM
Nadal can win some matches, but I'm not sure he's motived enough to go far.

He will be motivated. I can't see him tanking a match anywhere.

Deivid23
06-16-2005, 11:10 PM
Nadal can win some matches, but I'm not sure he's motived enough to go far.

lol

KoOlMaNsEaN
06-16-2005, 11:21 PM
i always thought he could do well on grass it's just the belief factor. like roddick didnt believe he could do well on grass but gilbert told him he could and he did

Clara Bow
06-16-2005, 11:35 PM
I haven't seen Gasquet at all on any faster surfaces, but am I correct in assuming that his game is actually best suited for grass and hard courts?

delsa
06-16-2005, 11:45 PM
I haven't seen Gasquet at all on any faster surfaces, but am I correct in assuming that his game is actually best suited for grass and hard courts?
Maybe. He's not a clay-court specialist as some assumed...

Chloe le Bopper
06-16-2005, 11:45 PM
I think Paul Henri Mathieu should not travel to London (1st round vs Roger), it's a waste of time.

If he even wanted to play on Center Court it's not a waste of time.

Nadal can win some matches, but I'm not sure he's motived enough to go far.

Nadal not motivated to win: Best line of the day.

This also contradicts what you said before - that he won't mame the third round. Either he can win SOME matches which indicates he can make it there, or he won't. Make up your mind :D

Chloe le Bopper
06-16-2005, 11:46 PM
Maybe. He's not a clay-court specialist as some assumed...
People assumed that Gasquet was a claycourt specialist? My, I must have missed that thread. That line of disrespect is generally reserved for Spanish speakers.

Rogiman
06-17-2005, 12:10 AM
Richard is awesome, and has made a great progress lately.

I'm really curious to see what his career will turn out to be - will he make the really big headlines, i.e win majors, or just be another decent player with an eye-pleasing game who reaches the occasional Slam SF, like many of his compatriots.

delsa
06-17-2005, 12:19 AM
People assumed that Gasquet was a claycourt specialist? My, I must have missed that thread. That line of disrespect is generally reserved for Spanish speakers.
See the British press...they're all surprised that his game can be suited to grass since he's or he's "supposed to be" a clay-court specialist :rolleyes:... when he gets "smacked" as you put it by true ones... Is it disrespectful to say a player is a clay-court specialist? :confused: In this case it's just because it's false that it's annoying that they spread this...I didn't interpret it as something disrespectful...

silverwhite
06-17-2005, 02:56 AM
People assumed that Gasquet was a claycourt specialist? My, I must have missed that thread. That line of disrespect is generally reserved for Spanish speakers.

Eurosport.com commentary. ;)

silverwhite
06-17-2005, 02:59 AM
It's for sure the surface where he has the best chance to beat Rafa. But none of them is in the 3rd round yet. I think that Rafa will go there pretty easily, but Richie has Kohlschreiber in the 1st round and with the pressure of a grand slam, it will be a real test right from the start.

Then, the outcome of Rafa-Richie is hard to predict as Rafael hasn't played much on grass this year and I think that everybody noticed how much he has improved these last month. I hope at least, that Richie will give him the change this time. After that, the road is pretty open for them until the semi with no big favourite in their quarter (they won't be favourite either). Then, another occasion for a teen to shine in a grand slam.

Yes. Precisely what I think. Rafael definitely has the mental advantage. Richard needs to believe he can beat him. Otherwise... :shrug:

Chloe le Bopper
06-17-2005, 05:09 AM
See the British press...they're all surprised that his game can be suited to grass since he's or he's "supposed to be" a clay-court specialist :rolleyes:... when he gets "smacked" as you put it by true ones... Is it disrespectful to say a player is a clay-court specialist? :confused: In this case it's just because it's false that it's annoying that they spread this...I didn't interpret it as something disrespectful...

I try to avoid British press. Thanks for reminding me why :D

I believe it's disrespectful to say a player is a claycourt specialist, depending on who says it, why they say it, and if it's true.

In the case of Gasquet, aside from the Metz final ALL his results were on clay until um, last week. And that's fine. But that's probably why he was getting some comments for it. If he were a Spanish speaker a LOT more people would have been saying it. They'd also be saying that Metz played really slow :)

World Beater
06-17-2005, 06:14 AM
richie may have the game, but nadal has a huge psychological edge. I dont think richie will beat rafa if they meet, be it on grass.

Shabazza
06-17-2005, 01:14 PM
Yes. Precisely what I think. Rafael definitely has the mental advantage. Richard needs to believe he can beat him. Otherwise... :shrug:
Ditto!!

alexito
06-17-2005, 02:53 PM
Yes. Precisely what I think. Rafael definitely has the mental advantage. Richard needs to believe he can beat him. Otherwise... :shrug:
yes, I think the same way, if richard have the rafael mind, will win all tournament.
gasquet def dent 64 62 in 10tele.com open. :)

no name face
06-17-2005, 02:56 PM
richie is good...he's gonna school nadal

Skyward
06-17-2005, 03:01 PM
yes, I think the same way, if richard have the rafael mind, will win all tournament.
gasquet def dent 64 62 in 10tele.com open. :)

http://bestsmileys.com/wow/2.gif

Major improvements, Alexito. Keep it up!

Lady
06-17-2005, 03:02 PM
Congrats on the final! :banana:

Pulling for him in the final as well. :D

Rogiman
06-17-2005, 03:07 PM
Richard the awesome, what is there to add...?! :yeah:

Alexito :eek:

LaTenista
06-17-2005, 03:14 PM
Three cheers for the French musketeer! I have a very strong feeling Gasquet's going to win his 1st title tomorrow on his 19th birthday - though Nadal might argue beating the number 1 is a better present.

:sad: I won't get to see it. Not even on TV. Why did I ever leave England?

Dirk
06-17-2005, 03:14 PM
Mulller could have a good shot at taking out Nadal at Wimbledon. Richard has a nice shot at making the 2nd week.

Dirk
06-17-2005, 03:16 PM
Max will be a lot tougher to beat than Denthead. I think Max will win if he gets by Rochus.

Deboogle!.
06-17-2005, 03:29 PM
People assumed that Gasquet was a claycourt specialist? My, I must have missed that thread. That line of disrespect is generally reserved for Spanish speakers.The press seems to do this with all the French players. After andy beat Seb in Queens one of the reporters asked "What makes him so tough on grass? He's a French clay court player, but he's got a very good record on grass." Andy was like .... oh, ok, I don't really think he's a clay court player. Viva stupid press :D

Anyway I'm not surprised at all that Gasquet is good on grass. That backhand transcends surfaces :inlove: A game like his seems very well-suited to ALL surfaces and I was actually surprised he was as good as he was on clay! With his game, I would've expected he'd be better on faster surfaces, but I'm thrilled to see he really seems to be an all-surface player. Certainly bodes well for his future:)

vincayou
06-17-2005, 03:32 PM
Max will be a lot tougher to beat than Denthead. I think Max will win if he gets by Rochus.

Richie was beaten by Max at Bercy last year in qualies. I was there, and richie was schooled. Gasquet had a set point in one set and could have serve him out the the second but ended beaten in straight. I never got the feeling that Richie could win this match, Max was very impressive at the net, very oppressing, as he always knew on which side Richard would try to pass him. Max became a favourite of mine during this match, it was frightening, he seemed to cover the whole net with his arms.

delsa
06-17-2005, 04:39 PM
I try to avoid British press. Thanks for reminding me why :D

I believe it's disrespectful to say a player is a claycourt specialist, depending on who says it, why they say it, and if it's true.

In the case of Gasquet, aside from the Metz final ALL his results were on clay until um, last week. And that's fine. But that's probably why he was getting some comments for it. If he were a Spanish speaker a LOT more people would have been saying it. They'd also be saying that Metz played really slow :)
Metz not only played slow but he didn't have to beat "good players" to reach the final and he still managed to loose against Haenhel... :o But it was just after the worst year of his short carreer...he was just getting back on track...
And it's true that almost all is result were on clay but he won a Challenger on hardcourt too :o (i know it's not a "result"...lol!).
Richard is an all-surface player but it has many disadvantages not having a best surface where he's super efficient...If he doesn't progress it won't change anything for him because he'll get schooled by all of the "specialists" and have a few good results now and then on each surface but if he does...it's promising ;)
How do they mean to be disrespectful by saying a player is a clay-court specialist? It's got to do with all the critics made of all the caracteristics of tennis played on clay by grass/hardcourt tennis fans? :confused: (don't know if it's good english...sorry if it isn't...hope it's understandable though...)

NATAS81
06-17-2005, 04:41 PM
Defeated Dent in straight sets today.

Definitely one to watch at Wimbledon.

Leo
06-17-2005, 06:37 PM
Gasquet did not "burn out" at Roland Garros. He didn't even have a chance to get started before finding himself smacked down :p

But Gasquet was looking fatigued in that match pretty early on and he has never done well in the best-of-5 format, so burn-out has been in his past. His stamina still needs improvement. However, on grass, matches will be shorter and that will definitely help him.

I'm surprised and impressed with Gasquet's success on grass so far. I thought the speed of the surface would hinder his forehand and backhand but obviously not... bagelling Srichaphan on this surface. :eek: :hatoff:

silverwhite
06-17-2005, 07:02 PM
bagelling Srichaphan on this surface. :eek: :hatoff:

Paradorn had a shoulder injury, which I have to admit, did hinder his serving in the third set a little.

NYCtennisfan
06-17-2005, 07:16 PM
Gasquet is going to be a threat on ALL surfaces in the future and probably is right now.
In his last 5 tournaments, he has wins over Federer, Mantilla, Garcia-Lopez, Davydenko, Massu, C. Rochus, and Hrbaty on clay, a lot of those being blowout wins.

He has also beaten Ancic, Srichapan, and Dent on grass. What a run. His only losses have come to Nadal, Agassi, and Federer on clay, and a lost to Stepanek in the quarters at Queens on grass.

Doume
06-17-2005, 08:57 PM
Is defeat against stepanek is almost due to an hard pain on his tooth. In the middle of the first set (6/3 for richard), the doctor is enter on the court to give him some medications but the pain was insuportable and after he has gone to paris in urgence to see is dentist. So for me, richard losses 4 match until mars, against nadal (*2), agassi and federer. I see him won tomorrow, come on richie, it's your day (your birthday).

Chloe le Bopper
06-17-2005, 10:28 PM
But Gasquet was looking fatigued in that match pretty early on and he has never done well in the best-of-5 format, so burn-out has been in his past. His stamina still needs improvement. However, on grass, matches will be shorter and that will definitely help him.


I wonder if that "fatigue" had anything to do with looking across the net and realizing that it would take a damn near superhuman performance to win.

Regardless, agreed. This is the only reason Rafa has ever beaten him. He's been fatigued all three times. Sort of like how Federer is just having a "bad day" every time he plays Rafa.

Richard will beat Rafa 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass.

vincayou
06-17-2005, 11:56 PM
I wonder if that "fatigue" had anything to do with looking across the net and realizing that it would take a damn near superhuman performance to win.

Regardless, agreed. This is the only reason Rafa has ever beaten him. He's been fatigued all three times. Sort of like how Federer is just having a "bad day" every time he plays Rafa.

Richard will beat Rafa 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass.

Come on, Richie is a gentleman, he will let him win one game.

I read an interview of richie after the RG debacle and his quote was something like "Even when I was scoring 2 points in a row, I was thinking -man it's gonna be difficult-". And something like "Nadal, hopefully there is only one, otherwise it would be depressing to play tennis".

Rogiman
06-18-2005, 12:37 AM
"Nadal, hopefully there is only one, otherwise it would be depressing to play tennis".
As well as to watch tennis ;)

vincayou
06-18-2005, 12:45 AM
As well as to watch tennis ;)

:lol:

playhard
06-18-2005, 12:52 AM
in this tournament, Gasquet has a rematch with Nadal soon...

Deivid23
06-18-2005, 01:34 AM
Regardless, agreed. This is the only reason Rafa has ever beaten him. He's been fatigued all three times. Sort of like how Federer is just having a "bad day" every time he plays Rafa.


Don´t forget darkness, bad bounces, netcords against, etc... All about Nadal´s typical lucky stuff, u know....

Jim Jones
06-18-2005, 01:49 AM
Gasquet has been in finals on clay, indoor & now grass. That's pretty good. I hope he wins tomorrow even though I give Max an edge on grass.

NATAS81
06-18-2005, 02:33 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if he reaches a hardcourt final before the 2005 year concludes.

lucashg
06-18-2005, 02:36 AM
It wouldn't surprise me if he reaches a hardcourt final before the 2005 year concludes.


He'll win Madrid. :worship: :p

delsa
06-18-2005, 03:31 AM
I wonder if that "fatigue" had anything to do with looking across the net and realizing that it would take a damn near superhuman performance to win.
It indeed had a lot to do with it i think and even Richard said it himself after the match... Richard has no endurance (yet) and there was the heat problem too but on this match it was from mental "fatigue" that he suffered more because Rafa was playing so well as usual despite all of Richard's efforts...In a way he cowardly gave up very quickly in his head and stopped to fight accepting to loose... :o


Regardless, agreed. This is the only reason Rafa has ever beaten him. He's been fatigued all three times. Sort of like how Federer is just having a "bad day" every time he plays Rafa.
Richard will beat Rafa 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass.
Awwww sarcasm... Why must you always be sarcastic? :awww: A little i understand it spices up discussions but always... Isn't it exhausting?


And now:why people always refer to Rafa when we speak of Gasquet? I'm sick of it and I'm sure many Rafa fans wouldn't like it if it was done the other way round again and again... (i know this time it's because of the Wimbledon draw and the fact that they could meet so everybody is making his argumented pronostic but it always happens even without these conditions...you can't deny it)

Rafa beat him those three times because he's the best on clay. He's the king of clay! Because he's the only player combining one of the best physical capabilities and one of the best if not the best mental strengh in addition to all his tennistic talents that everybody already know about because they've been legitimately praised a lot...
And there's a 0.000...etc...0000000001% probability that "Richard will beat Rafa 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass" ( :rolleyes: ). Because even if Richie's obviously very talented and has made lots of progress in the last 6 months, particulary on grass, if they meet: Nadal will have is usual huge fighting spirit, will give all he's got, will be hypermotivated to win in a Grand Slam against someone who all the media are building him a rivalry with (and even though he says the contrary i'm sure he's not indifferent to that...it's not in his personality to ignore the medias he "plays" with them i think...), moreover on grass so he'll may be the outsider for many people and i think he'll like to be in that position (especially after what the media (them again... :rolleyes: ) immediately said after his Halle loss, jumping on the occasion "faster than poverty on the world" (don't know if it works in english it's a francophone espression...) to affirm that he's "not a grass player"... :rolleyes: ), altough nobody should forget that he's done better than Gasquet ever did at Wimbledon so far by reaching the third round beating Mario Ancic on the way in 2003...
Nadal lost in Halle because he had very little time to prepare on grass among some other reasons...So people shouldn't pay that much attention to this defeat...
And Richard didn't beat "very good" opponents (true specialists of grass or in top form) in his late results on this surface...even if they're very good results for him...

And all this being said, both have first to manage their way to the 3rd round before this potential encounter in Wimbly and it won't be easy for both of them... They're not there yet...
So there are many reasons to stop speaking about this potential 3rd round match and only wait to see what will happen... ;)

So let's talk about the subject of this thread again: Richie's progress on grass match after match. Does anyone that was able to see a bit of one of his recent matches on TV could please tell how he's adapting his play to grass? :confused: Because there is no coverage of the Nottingham Open here... :mad:
God I'm crazy to make so long posts without having a great English... :cuckoo: It's suicidal...

rommel99
06-18-2005, 04:02 AM
It indeed had a lot to do with it i think and even Richard said it himself after the match... Richard has no endurance (yet) and there was the heat problem too but on this match it was from mental "fatigue" that he suffered more because Rafa was playing so well as usual despite all of Richard's efforts...In a way he cowardly gave up very quickly in his head and stopped to fight accepting to loose... :o


Awwww sarcasm... Why must you always be sarcastic? :awww: A little i understand it spices up discussions but always... Isn't it exhausting?


And now:why people always refer to Rafa when we speak of Gasquet? I'm sick of it and I'm sure many Rafa fans wouldn't like it if it was done the other way round again and again... (i know this time it's because of the Wimbledon draw and the fact that they could meet so everybody is making his argumented pronostic but it always happens even without these conditions...you can't deny it)

Rafa beat him those three times because he's the best on clay. He's the king of clay! Because he's the only player combining one of the best physical capabilities and one of the best if not the best mental strengh in addition to all his tennistic talents that everybody already know about because they've been legitimately praised a lot...
And there's a 0.000...etc...0000000001% probability that "Richard will beat Rafa 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass" ( :rolleyes: ). Because even if Richie's obviously very talented and has made lots of progress in the last 6 months, particulary on grass, if they meet: Nadal will have is usual huge fighting spirit, will give all he's got, will be hypermotivated to win in a Grand Slam against someone who all the medias are building him a rivalry with (and even though he says the contrary i'm sure he's not indifferent to that...it's not in his personality to ignore the medias he "plays" with them i think...), moreover on grass so he'll may be the outsider for many people and i think he'll like to be in that position (especially after what the medias (them again... :rolleyes: ) immediately said after his Halle loss, jumping on the occasion "faster than poverty on the world" (don't know if it works in english it's a francophone espression...) to affirm that he's "not a grass player"... :rolleyes: ), altough nobody should forget that he's done better than Gasquet ever did at Wimbledon so far by reaching the third round beating Mario Ancic on the way in 2003...
Nadal lost in Halle because he had very little time to prepare on grass among some other reasons...So people shouldn't pay that much attention to this defeat...
And Richard didn't beat "very good" opponents (true specialists of grass or in top form) in his late results on this surface...even if they're very good results for him...

And all this being said, both have first to manage their way to the 3rd round before this potential encounter in Wimbly and it won't be easy for both of them... They're not there yet...
So there are many reasons to stop speaking about this potential 3rd round match and only wait to see what will happen... ;)

So let's talk about the subject of this thread again: Richie's progress on grass match after match. Does that anyone that was able to see a bit of one of his recent matches on TV could please tell how he's adapting his play to grass? :confused: Because there is no coverage of the Nottingham Open here... :mad:
God I'm crazy to make such long posts without having a great English... :cuckoo: It's suicidal...

federer and hewitt = richard and rafa now. just my opinion.. one time, everyone thought that hewitt was nivincible because hes so fast and can return everything but one loss come after another and that invincibility armor cracked. players now believe that they can actually hit winners against him. im not saying it would also happen to rafa but i think it would happen also to him. dunno i think hes great for tennis but his game well its not really the best.

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:07 AM
And now:why people always refer to Rafa when we speak of Gasquet? I'm sick of it and I'm sure many Rafa fans wouldn't like it if it was done the other way round again and again...

Actually, it does go the other way. I think I've been hearind the wishful "Fed-Hewitt" comparison for a full year now. Often in threads that started out about Rafa. Yawn.

So instead of actually trying to knock reality into these people, I decide to have a little fun with it. There is no use talking sense to the senseless.

Some people understand me, some don't. It doesn't really matter.

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:10 AM
federer and hewitt = richard and rafa now. just my opinion.. one time, everyone thought that hewitt was nivincible because hes so fast and can return everything but one loss come after another and that invincibility armor cracked. players now believe that they can actually hit winners against him. im not saying it would also happen to rafa but i think it would happen also to him. dunno i think hes great for tennis but his game well its not really the best.
Let's do a recap of this: I'm not saying that it will happen, but I'm saying that I think it will happen. Although there is technically nothing wrong with that... erm, sure. Insightful stuff!

It's wishful thinking, that's all it is. It could happen to any player, and people are hoping it will happen with Rafa. But they really ought to come up with a better example than the world number 2 if they are going to predict his demise.

As for his game not being all that great... I read that one a lot too. Yeah, his game blows. Rafa is a horrible athlete. I don't know how he wins matches

:D

Halba
06-18-2005, 04:12 AM
I really want Richard to do well. If he makes Wimby Semis or Final even good chance he will be at the Tennis Masters Cup.

I want to see him at TMC, to challenge Fed and Rafa. Quite likely he'll get a good game or two off them on Hardcourts with a killer backhand and powerful serve.

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:16 AM
What is his race status?

Halba
06-18-2005, 04:19 AM
His race position is 17 not including the current tourney

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:20 AM
Good stuff.

Thanks.

Halba
06-18-2005, 04:20 AM
new race position will be released monday...so if he wins i reckon he'll be very close to top 10

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:22 AM
At least we don't have to hear "his part of the season to pick up points is over" nonsense like we do with Rafa.

I'll keep an eye on his position. The race will actually start to have meaning, soon ;)

World Beater
06-18-2005, 04:39 AM
At least we don't have to hear "his part of the season to pick up points is over" nonsense like we do with Rafa.

I'll keep an eye on his position. The race will actually start to have meaning, soon ;)

thats becos richie >rafa :o

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:40 AM
You stole my line!

This sarcastic Rafa fan is out of control. He needs to be stopped!

star
06-18-2005, 05:14 AM
I'm really happy to see Gasquet doing so well on grass.

rommel99
06-18-2005, 05:49 AM
Let's do a recap of this: I'm not saying that it will happen, but I'm saying that I think it will happen. Although there is technically nothing wrong with that... erm, sure. Insightful stuff!

It's wishful thinking, that's all it is. It could happen to any player, and people are hoping it will happen with Rafa. But they really ought to come up with a better example than the world number 2 if they are going to predict his demise.

As for his game not being all that great... I read that one a lot too. Yeah, his game blows. Rafa is a horrible athlete. I don't know how he wins matches

:D

why are you being so defensive??? its just my opinion.. im not saying its a general fact.. i just think when time comes since he doesnt most of the time create the points that richard would beat him more eventually.. im not saying he going to have a demis but it would become harder and harder for him to win slams..

ps: i also didnt say that his game sucks or anything i just said its not the best.. you being sarcastic is just being stupid..

acdbx
06-18-2005, 05:53 AM
Who thinks Gasquet can become better than Fed in 3-5 years? better than Nadal by the end of 2006 or earlier?

I was watching his Monte Carlo SF against Nadal again, and he made more than quite-a-few spectacular shots. The F in Hamburg was also beautiful, nothing short of amazing.

I think Gasquet now is like the Federer of a few years ago, just more raw and less mature. Gasquet is enjoying more success than Fed back then, and he may even have greater raw talent. He's lacking consistency, and is a bit overzealous and overeager to fire winners, and isn't as fit. But that backhand is gorgeous; best in the game? His forehand is pretty dang powerful, and he has some serve-volley aptitude, not to mention is an awesome shotmaker.

If there's some way to get him to harness his abilities, get more consistent and fit, he'd be there.. way too many loose points..

rommel99
06-18-2005, 05:57 AM
Who thinks Gasquet can become better than Fed in 3-5 years? better than Nadal by the end of 2006 or earlier?

I was watching his Monte Carlo SF against Nadal again, and he made more than quite-a-few spectacular shots. The F in Hamburg was also beautiful, nothing short of amazing.

I think Gasquet now is like the Federer of a few years ago, just more raw and less mature. Gasquet is enjoying more success than Fed back then, and he may even have greater raw talent. He's lacking consistency, and is a bit overzealous and overeager to fire winners, and isn't as fit. But that backhand is gorgeous; best in the game? His forehand is pretty dang powerful, and he has some serve-volley aptitude, not to mention is an awesome shotmaker.

If there's some way to get him to harness his abilities, get more consistent and fit, he'd be there.. way too many loose points..

shhhh say that loudly and the crazy nadal fan here would be sarcastic again ang attack you from behind.....

rommel99
06-18-2005, 06:03 AM
Let's do a recap of this: I'm not saying that it will happen, but I'm saying that I think it will happen. Although there is technically nothing wrong with that... erm, sure. Insightful stuff!

It's wishful thinking, that's all it is. It could happen to any player, and people are hoping it will happen with Rafa. But they really ought to come up with a better example than the world number 2 if they are going to predict his demise.

As for his game not being all that great... I read that one a lot too. Yeah, his game blows. Rafa is a horrible athlete. I don't know how he wins matches

:D

chloe again its not wishful thinking.. its not even a guess.. it happens most of the time.. coria? hewitt? chang? pretty much have the same game.. they stay in the top but it gets harder and harder for them to win against the likes of federer and an inform safin or other players who are better shotmakers.. i said im not saying its going to happen because well never know and i said i think it would happen because of the above examples and reasons.. if everytime someone says a little negative about rafa doesnt mean they are attacking him.. it is just an opinion.. i was happy for him to win the french and doesnt want the above mentioned to happen but if you look at the past most of the time that kind of thing happens.

oneandonlyhsn
06-18-2005, 06:32 AM
Allez Gasquet, I love seeing players with great shotmaking ability do well, especially on grass.

Halba
06-18-2005, 07:38 AM
yeah well Nadal doesn't seem to have much raw talent

he is just a verrryyy verryy fit bumrooter...a Lleyton hewitt clone but is lefty and has a wicked forehand

but thats about it

Gasquet can be destructive on any surface

NYCtennisfan
06-18-2005, 07:52 AM
Too bad some people have to turn this thread into something involving Nadal just because a few posters thought that Gasquet would beat him at Wimbledon. Go Gasquet!

Clara Bow
06-18-2005, 08:12 AM
Too bad some people have to turn this thread into something involving Nadal just because a few posters thought that Gasquet would beat him at Wimbledon. Go Gasquet!

But one thing I have noticed on here and on other forums that are not MTF (BBC Sport comes to mind) is that a lot of times this is not from Nadal fans.

Yes- Gasquet is a great shot maker and I think will be one of the premier players actually quite soon. But at the same time, I am tired of people frequently, when singing praises of Richard, having to feel the need to diss Nadal, call him a "bumrooter", etc. Why must people feel the need in praising one player that they need to be snide about the achievements of another?


They are two different players with two different styles. Gasquet does imo have more natural abilites ala Feds, but from watching many sports, there can be other issues such as heart and motivation that can also make a player exceed his natural abilites, and I think that Nadal is one of those players, and should be commended for that, not rudely dismissed as he often is. It reminds me from when I was a TA (teaching asssitant in grad school)- I always had an affection for the kids who tried their hardest gosh darn even though they may not have had the natural gifts as some others, and I got annoyed when those kids were dismissed by the professors that I worked for./end rant- sorry


Anyways- back to the topic- although I have so far only been able to see Richard play on clay- I really think that his game will most excel on grass and hard courts. I think he will be a mutliple winner of both US Opens and Wimbledon by the time he is done.

JeNn
06-18-2005, 08:37 AM
Let's do a recap of this: I'm not saying that it will happen, but I'm saying that I think it will happen. Although there is technically nothing wrong with that... erm, sure. Insightful stuff!

It's wishful thinking, that's all it is. It could happen to any player, and people are hoping it will happen with Rafa. But they really ought to come up with a better example than the world number 2 if they are going to predict his demise.

As for his game not being all that great... I read that one a lot too. Yeah, his game blows. Rafa is a horrible athlete. I don't know how he wins matches

:D

fuck, I'd hate to be number 2 in the world. what a disastrous fate. :sad:

vincayou
06-18-2005, 08:46 AM
There is a big question mark above Nadal on his grass abilities. Most people seem to think that he has no chance but his results 2 years ago were very good, and in the last 2 years he has improved a lot. He could enjoy the same kind of success that Hewitt who is not the typical grass player.

It's true that Richard was not ready physically to play Nadal in RG, but Rafael is a genius in terms of athletic talent.

What I see is that thier opposition of style gave a wonderful match in Montecarlo. So the future in terms of entertainment is promising between the two.

silverwhite
06-18-2005, 09:23 AM
But one thing I have noticed on here and on other forums that are not MTF (BBC Sport comes to mind) is that a lot of times this is not from Nadal fans.

Yes- Gasquet is a great shot maker and I think will be one of the premier players actually quite soon. But at the same time, I am tired of people frequently, when singing praises of Richard, having to feel the need to diss Nadal, call him a "bumrooter", etc. Why must people feel the need in praising one player that they need to be snide about the achievements of another?


You've failed to notice that a lot of those people who diss Nadal are not Richard fans either.

delsa
06-18-2005, 09:40 AM
But one thing I have noticed on here and on other forums that are not MTF (BBC Sport comes to mind) is that a lot of times this is not from Nadal fans.

Yes- Gasquet is a great shot maker and I think will be one of the premier players actually quite soon. But at the same time, I am tired of people frequently, when singing praises of Richard, having to feel the need to diss Nadal, call him a "bumrooter", etc. Why must people feel the need in praising one player that they need to be snide about the achievements of another?

They are two different players with two different styles. Gasquet does imo have more natural abilites ala Feds, but from watching many sports, there can be other issues such as heart and motivation that can also make a player exceed his natural abilites, and I think that Nadal is one of those players, and should be commended for that, not rudely dismissed as he often is. It reminds me from when I was a TA (teaching asssitant in grad school)- I always had an affection for the kids who tried their hardest gosh darn even though they may not have had the natural gifts as some others, and I got annoyed when those kids were dismissed by the professors that I worked for./end rant- sorry


Exactly my thoughts on everything and i'd like to add that Rafa honours the sport by his combativity and always trying to do his best, and never giving up etc...And i heard he also said that Wimbledon was his biggest Grand Slam winning dream because it was more of a challenge for him to do well there now. So i think that like he already did he'll work and work and work more to do well on every surface and like it did with other aspects of his game that he has worked on he will succeed, especially since he's only 18 so he have time on his hands to progress. I think Rafa will be able to play well on every surface very soon (if he isn't already...).
Now back to Gasquet please.

Halba
06-18-2005, 01:02 PM
Rafa can run all he wants but on grass it means jack squat...

Skyward
06-18-2005, 02:40 PM
Why must people feel the need in praising one player that they need to be snide about the achievements of another?




Because http://bestsmileys.com/violent/18.gif is a daily activity here. Nadal is hardly the only victim.

Lady
06-18-2005, 02:53 PM
What a nice birthday present for Richard today! :D

avocadoe
06-18-2005, 02:57 PM
Lucky us to be alive with 2 new great 19 year olds on board :) :) I'm hoping Gasquet can make it deep next week. I like his game on grass, though he's surprised, and thinks clays his best, he doesn't YET have the grit and consistency to win big on clay, but on grass, another story.

Jim Jones
06-18-2005, 03:09 PM
Lucky us to be alive with 2 new great 19 year olds on board :) :) I'm hoping Gasquet can make it deep next week. I like his game on grass, though he's surprised, and thinks clays his best, he doesn't YET have the grit and consistency to win big on clay, but on grass, another story.
er, the guy was a finalist at Hamburg. You know it's only a masters-series on clay.

delsa
06-18-2005, 03:12 PM
er, the guy was a finalist at Hamburg. You know it's only a masters-series on clay.
He was lucky to have a VERY good draw...(and...hum...3 qualifiers in the QF...)

Jim Jones
06-18-2005, 03:27 PM
Ok, then what about the semi-final result in Monaco?

rommel99
06-18-2005, 03:43 PM
But one thing I have noticed on here and on other forums that are not MTF (BBC Sport comes to mind) is that a lot of times this is not from Nadal fans.

Yes- Gasquet is a great shot maker and I think will be one of the premier players actually quite soon. But at the same time, I am tired of people frequently, when singing praises of Richard, having to feel the need to diss Nadal, call him a "bumrooter", etc. Why must people feel the need in praising one player that they need to be snide about the achievements of another?


They are two different players with two different styles. Gasquet does imo have more natural abilites ala Feds, but from watching many sports, there can be other issues such as heart and motivation that can also make a player exceed his natural abilites, and I think that Nadal is one of those players, and should be commended for that, not rudely dismissed as he often is. It reminds me from when I was a TA (teaching asssitant in grad school)- I always had an affection for the kids who tried their hardest gosh darn even though they may not have had the natural gifts as some others, and I got annoyed when those kids were dismissed by the professors that I worked for./end rant- sorry


Anyways- back to the topic- although I have so far only been able to see Richard play on clay- I really think that his game will most excel on grass and hard courts. I think he will be a mutliple winner of both US Opens and Wimbledon by the time he is done.

very very well said.. but sometimes there are just fans who are so defensive..

delsa
06-18-2005, 04:02 PM
Ok, then what about the semi-final result in Monaco?
This was a very very very very etc...good result, a "dream week" as Richard said...Too bad he had to go through the quallies maybe it could have been even better if he hadn't. But we'll never know... ;)

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:36 PM
Too bad some people have to turn this thread into something involving Nadal just because a few posters thought that Gasquet would beat him at Wimbledon. Go Gasquet!

Actually, some of us have been making these yippy comments since before this season.

I could not care less if Gasquet beats Rafa at Wimbledon. There is nothing wrong with people thinking that it might occur, it's actually a fairly reasonable thing to think.

Speak for yourself, not for others, dear.

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:36 PM
yeah well Nadal doesn't seem to have much raw talent



Congratulations. This is one of the stupidest things that anybody has ever said about Nadal. Aside from that one post where it was said he's not motivated enough to do well on grass. That was the stupidest :D

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 04:42 PM
But one thing I have noticed on here and on other forums that are not MTF (BBC Sport comes to mind) is that a lot of times this is not from Nadal fans.

Yes- Gasquet is a great shot maker and I think will be one of the premier players actually quite soon. But at the same time, I am tired of people frequently, when singing praises of Richard, having to feel the need to diss Nadal, call him a "bumrooter", etc. Why must people feel the need in praising one player that they need to be snide about the achievements of another?


They are two different players with two different styles. Gasquet does imo have more natural abilites ala Feds, but from watching many sports, there can be other issues such as heart and motivation that can also make a player exceed his natural abilites, and I think that Nadal is one of those players, and should be commended for that, not rudely dismissed as he often is. It reminds me from when I was a TA (teaching asssitant in grad school)- I always had an affection for the kids who tried their hardest gosh darn even though they may not have had the natural gifts as some others, and I got annoyed when those kids were dismissed by the professors that I worked for./end rant- sorry


Anyways- back to the topic- although I have so far only been able to see Richard play on clay- I really think that his game will most excel on grass and hard courts. I think he will be a mutliple winner of both US Opens and Wimbledon by the time he is done.


Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't understand why flashy shot makers are automatically considered the most gifted players :shrug: Frankly, I don't consider Gasquet more gifted than Nadal. I just consider them different. Both ways of playing can be highly effective. There are gifts that Nadal has that Gasquet doesn't, and vice versa. I don't see how having a pretty one handed backhand is all of a sudden the most significant gift :shrug:

I'm actually being serious here, so if somebody would like to break it down for me, please do.

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-18-2005, 04:59 PM
Go Richard at Wimbledon!

Experimentee
06-18-2005, 05:01 PM
Its not really a surprise. His game always looked to me like it would be good on faster surfaces. He reached a final indoors last year. I think some ppl just assumed he was a claycourter bc of his recent excellent results on clay, but theres no doubt to me that he could continue that on grass.

delsa
06-18-2005, 05:02 PM
Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't understand why flashy shot makers are automatically considered the most gifted players :shrug: Frankly, I don't consider Gasquet more gifted than Nadal. I just consider them different. Both ways of playing can be highly effective. There are gifts that Nadal has that Gasquet doesn't, and vice versa. I don't see how having a pretty one handed backhand is all of a sudden the most significant gift :shrug:

I'm actually being serious here, so if somebody would like to break it down for me, please do.
I understand what you mean and i have the same opinion. ;)
But i think people believe that flashy shotmaking comes from maybe like 70% talent and 30% work, whereas for physical and mental strength, strong hitting etc... it is 70% work, 30% natural gift...
It's an exemple. You know what i mean? :shrug: (i can't explain this well in english but i'd have tried at least...) They assume that the capability of firing beautiful shots is the result of a lot of talent so the player that possess it is gifted according to them whereas the other one is of course talented but more of a hard-worker, an "efficient"...
I think it is FAR to simplistic :rolleyes: but many people think like that...

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-18-2005, 05:06 PM
Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't understand why flashy shot makers are automatically considered the most gifted players :shrug: Frankly, I don't consider Gasquet more gifted than Nadal.All this more gifted/less gifted debacle is bs. What matters is the results, and so far Nadal is miles ahead of Richard in this department (I'm hoping, not for long).

WyveN
06-18-2005, 05:12 PM
Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't understand why flashy shot makers are automatically considered the most gifted players


Looking at the tour there are far more defensive players then flashy shot makers, and the flashy shot makers, as long as they learn some discipline generally have a decent ranking. Most of the tennis legends (5 slams +) have been flashy shot makers.
Thats not to say defensive players are not gifted but shot making is obviously a harder form of tennis.




I don't see how having a pretty one handed backhand is all of a sudden the most significant gift :shrug:


Its not the most significant gift but it is a harder shot then the double handed backhand and if done properly (unlike say Rusedskis) it requires a lot of talent. Most of the best backhands on tour are single handers and not because they are pretty.

allanah
06-18-2005, 05:51 PM
Well done today Richard! :banana: That was excellent! And well done too, to MAx Mirnyi, his post-match speech was sweet :).

About the relative talents of Gasquet and Nadal, I certainly don't think Gasquest's performance todat takes anything away from Nadal who has a lot of awesome qualities. But personally, I would rather watch a "flashy shot-maker" every day of the week over someone who plays like Nadal. The Spaniard's energy and drive is exceptional but, and I'm talking purely from the point of view of preferring to watch one over the other, I'd rather watch the finesse and stylishness over good retrieving ability and a never-say-die attitude which seem to be the hallmarks of their two games.

If you compare it to football, there's the team which never concedes goals or the one which creates and scores loads. Both of them are talented and will win games, but there's one type of play more pleasing to the eye than the other.

NYCtennisfan
06-18-2005, 06:28 PM
Gasquet is the real deal. It wouldn't surprise me if he makes a run for the top 10 by year's end.

Leo
06-18-2005, 07:50 PM
I wonder if that "fatigue" had anything to do with looking across the net and realizing that it would take a damn near superhuman performance to win.

Yes, Nadal did a good job of tiring him out further by running him ragged. But I do think Gasquet would have made the match more interesting if he had more left in the tank. And obviously Gasquet faired much better against Nadal in the best-of-3 format in Monte Carlo just a month or so earlier. Gasquet's endurance is nowhere near Nadal's. That's all.

Regardless, agreed. This is the only reason Rafa has ever beaten him. He's been fatigued all three times. Sort of like how Federer is just having a "bad day" every time he plays Rafa.

Richard will beat Rafa 6-0 6-0 6-0 on grass.

Because that's what I was implying.

NYCtennisfan
06-18-2005, 09:47 PM
Actually, some of us have been making these yippy comments since before this season.

I could not care less if Gasquet beats Rafa at Wimbledon. There is nothing wrong with people thinking that it might occur, it's actually a fairly reasonable thing to think.

Speak for yourself, not for others, dear

OK.

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 10:33 PM
I understand what you mean and i have the same opinion. ;)
But i think people believe that flashy shotmaking comes from maybe like 70% talent and 30% work, whereas for physical and mental strength, strong hitting etc... it is 70% work, 30% natural gift...It's an exemple. You know what i mean? :shrug: (i can't explain this well in english but i'd have tried at least...) They assume that the capability of firing beautiful shots is the result of a lot of talent so the player that possess it is gifted according to them whereas the other one is of course talented but more of a hard-worker, an "efficient"...
I think it is FAR to simplistic :rolleyes: but many people think like that...

Nadal has more than just mental and physical strength though. I would understand if all he did was run himself in circles all day and occasionally scraped out a shot, but every Nadal match is a freaking highlight reel of amazing gets followed up by sublime shots :shrug: People seem to only focus on the first part.

Don't get me wrong - I don't doubt the talent of the "flashier" players... I am jsut beside myself at the lack of respect given to Lleyton Hewitt, Rafael Nadal, and Guillermo Coria (and any player considered defensive, but these are the three primary targets) as a backlash of this praise. Anybody who thinks that all any of these three do is run in circles all day doesn't know shit about the game. That's pretty much all their is to it.

There is also my irritation for people who think that the three are clones of one another, but I'll save that lecture for another day ;)

Anyways, I understood what you said and largly agree. People are simple :) And that's why I spend more of my time on here making snarks at them.

Chloe le Bopper
06-18-2005, 10:35 PM
Yes, Nadal did a good job of tiring him out further by running him ragged. But I do think Gasquet would have made the match more interesting if he had more left in the tank. And obviously Gasquet faired much better against Nadal in the best-of-3 format in Monte Carlo just a month or so earlier. Gasquet's endurance is nowhere near Nadal's. That's all.

I agree. That's all. As soon as Gasquet get's in a little more mountain training, he'll have Rafa beat down 6-0 6-0 6-0. On clay. Because endurance is the only reason that Rafa beats Gasquet.


Because that's what I was implying.

It was an exaggerated form of what you implied in this very post.

Leo
06-19-2005, 04:04 AM
Then you misunderstood. Will you not be happy unless I say, 'Nadal is better than Gasquet'? I'd rather not state the obvious.

Chloe le Bopper
06-19-2005, 04:08 AM
Then you misunderstood. Will you not be happy unless I say, 'Nadal is better than Gasquet'? I'd rather not state the obvious.
I'm already happy, silly :p

Leo
06-19-2005, 04:13 AM
Oh, okay. :confused:

My head needs a rest; nothing makes sense anymore. Yay for summer.

rommel99
06-19-2005, 04:15 AM
yay! richard won his first title.. a good start.. atleast now hes winning matches hes suppose to win.. if ever he has a showdown with nadal though in the third round i dont think richard would be ready to beat nadal for now.. but i dunno.. hard to predict how rafa would play in grass.. but hooray for richard!

Halba
06-19-2005, 04:18 AM
Looks my prediction for TMC might ring true...i really hope Gasquet does well at USOPen as well

rommel99
06-19-2005, 04:22 AM
given a good draw he can do good as long as he doesnt face top players early then he can go deep.. once deep you can never say..

Chloe le Bopper
06-19-2005, 04:57 AM
Oh, okay. :confused:

My head needs a rest; nothing makes sense anymore. Yay for summer.

Check yer rep comments :p

Leo
06-19-2005, 05:24 AM
Check yer rep comments :p

Haha, sounds good. :kiss:

Clara Bow
06-19-2005, 06:19 AM
Maybe I'm just slow, but I don't understand why flashy shot makers are automatically considered the most gifted players Frankly, I don't consider Gasquet more gifted than Nadal. I just consider them different. Both ways of playing can be highly effective. There are gifts that Nadal has that Gasquet doesn't, and vice versa. I don't see how having a pretty one handed backhand is all of a sudden the most significant gift

You do make a good point, and on further analysis perhaps I did choose the wrong wording for what I meant. I do think that Gasquet had currently a wider arsenal of shots from different areas of the court. But that is not the only type of "natural gift" one can have. And I do think that Rafa's capacity to hit winners is in fact quite underated.

Back to Richard....am very anxious to see him at Wimbly and really wish that I could have seen his performances these past two weeks.