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Safin: No luck in GS draws?

Rosa Luxembourg
06-16-2005, 01:21 PM
FO: every round he had to play a dirt baller or a very good player (like Roger)

Wimbledon: every round (almost) he has to play a grass court player

Paradorn
Mark
F.Lopez
Ancic
Hewitt
Federer
Roddick

is this a tough draw or what?

uNIVERSE mAN
06-16-2005, 01:33 PM
YTD Records of his first three opponents
Paradorn: 11 - 16
Flip: 3 - 3
Lopez: 16 - 17

Is that supposed to scare anyone?

EternalFlame
06-16-2005, 01:33 PM
It is tough. In the type of court where he needs luck the most he doesn't have any. But he'll do fine, I hope... It's his mind that spoils everything. He can beat all of those people or lose to any of them.

Halba
06-16-2005, 01:38 PM
Cwipes

Looks like an absolute SHOCKER for Marat. Every round a grass court specialist. He'll be lucky to beat Paradorn. But the way he's been playing (last Match v Fed shows he has class to live and hit with Fed) means he can beat everyone on tour except Fed

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-16-2005, 01:45 PM
is this a tough draw or what?Yes, but they are all beatable. All of them. So let's wait and see.

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-16-2005, 01:48 PM
Plus Philippoussis will most probably lose to Beck, who's more dangerous anyway.

Halba
06-16-2005, 01:50 PM
Paradorn - poor form on other surfaces recently, grass court form promising with QF in Nottingham. Has won a grass court title. Safin should beat him.

Scud - Too many injuries, 2nd Rd loss to Roddick in Queens. Played average against Roddick. Not much form to show of but can play good at Wimby. Safin will beat him.

LOPEZ - dunno is he a grass player at all? He's spanish after all. Safin can beat him

ANCIC - Grass court specialist. Safin's toughest test i reckon.

HEWITT- Well safin beat him in Aus. Open so shouldn't be too hard i reckon.

DENT- Serve Volleyer. May annoy the crap out of Safin.

fini
06-16-2005, 01:56 PM
obviously,bad luck.I hope that he will be beaten by Mario~~~

crouching
06-16-2005, 02:20 PM
LOPEZ - dunno is he a grass player at all? He's spanish after all. Safin can beat him

Lopez is quite adept on grass. Wimbledon is his best Slam, in three years, he's made the 4th round twice and 3rd round last year.

MariaV
06-16-2005, 02:20 PM
Well, not tougher than for anyone else. The 1st rounds depend more on Marat's form and mood. I'd be glad to see him into 2nd week but don't really expect him to win the title.

Bibir
06-16-2005, 02:24 PM
No need to worry - Safin is a grass court specialist now. :banana:

Bibir
06-16-2005, 02:28 PM
Hopefully, Dimitry Turnusov is not in his quarter this year. :o

MariaV
06-16-2005, 02:30 PM
Hopefully, Dimitry Turnusov is not in his quarter this year. :o
No Béa, Tursunov is in the bottom half. :D

Corey Feldman
06-16-2005, 02:33 PM
Its a Grand Slam event, there shouldnt be easy draws anywhere ;)

Action Jackson
06-16-2005, 02:36 PM
Its a Grand Slam event, there shouldnt be easy draws anywhere ;)

That usually applies, but exceptions are Henman at Wimbledon and Agassi anywhere.

PennyThePenguin
06-16-2005, 02:37 PM
Its a Grand Slam event, there shouldnt be easy draws anywhere ;)

easy? is that even a word?

oneandonlyhsn
06-16-2005, 02:39 PM
Well Safin needs to do better outside slams to get his ranking higher. That way he can get better draws.

Corey Feldman
06-16-2005, 02:39 PM
easy? is that even a word?
:scratch:

foul_dwimmerlaik
06-16-2005, 02:41 PM
Well Safin needs to do better outside slams to get his ranking higher. That way he can get better draws.
You tell him.

rofe
06-16-2005, 02:51 PM
You guys are getting worries over nothing. Fed had a relatively tough draw at the FO but his draw opened up. THe same could happen to Marat. Half of his "tough" opponents may not even make it to the next round since they have not been playing well.

Offcourse, Marat also has to keep a cool head. :(

Bibir
06-16-2005, 02:55 PM
No Béa, Tursunov is in the bottom half. :D
Good.

But as Tanya said, this awful draw could be a blessing in disguise.

Winners don't wait for chances, they take them .
This draw can give him the extra motivation he needs sometimes. :)

Rogiman
06-16-2005, 02:59 PM
Good.

But as Tanya said, this awful draw could be a blessing in disguise.

Winners don't wait for chances, they take them .
This draw can give him the extra motivation he needs sometimes. :)
In other words, he should start practising for the hardcourts season :p

Bibir
06-16-2005, 03:16 PM
In other words, he should start practising for the hardcourts season :p
No sweetie, in other words he should start believing in himself. :p

Rogiman
06-16-2005, 03:20 PM
No sweetie, in other words he should start believing in himself. :p
Sure, that and practising on asphalt :p

Rosa Luxembourg
06-16-2005, 04:09 PM
Its a Grand Slam event, there shouldnt be easy draws anywhere ;)


how about a couple of clay court specialists somewhere instead of grass court ones?

_pyromatic
06-16-2005, 04:37 PM
Offcourse, Marat also has to keep a cool head. :(

Unfortunately, that's impossible for him :rolleyes: But he did do really well at Queens so maybe miracles can happen

_pyromatic
06-16-2005, 04:40 PM
Queens equalling Halle, of course ;)

NATAS81
06-16-2005, 04:43 PM
Paradorn has not been playing well. He was bagelled by the up and coming Frenchman Gasquet today to lose in the third set.

So aside from Lopez and Srichaphan, Safin has the toughest draw I have seen so far.

I have not seen all of the draws yet, but Safin can beat just about anybody so there isn't a lack of luck in the draws. He is capable of winning the matches if he wants to.

The issue is can he mentally stabilize himself to defeat Srichaphan who he should beat.

Then he can worry about the other matches. One match at a time for the 6'4" Russian.

World Beater
06-16-2005, 04:52 PM
FO: every round he had to play a dirt baller or a very good player (like Roger)

Wimbledon: every round (almost) he has to play a grass court player

Paradorn
Mark
F.Lopez
Ancic
Hewitt
Federer
Roddick

is this a tough draw or what?

:scared:

NYCtennisfan
06-16-2005, 09:11 PM
NOt an easy draw but not super tough either. If Marat is healthy and doesn't lose confidence early, I don't see why he will not make it past the first three rounds. Of course, I wouldn't put any money on it. :)

RoddickBabe10
06-16-2005, 09:46 PM
Cwipes

Looks like an absolute SHOCKER for Marat. Every round a grass court specialist. He'll be lucky to beat Paradorn. But the way he's been playing (last Match v Fed shows he has class to live and hit with Fed) means he can beat everyone on tour except Fed

;) :lol:

alexa18
06-17-2005, 05:29 AM
My 2 favourite players Marat and Flip in the same quarter :sad: :mad:

its.like.that
06-17-2005, 10:40 AM
Its a Grand Slam event, there shouldnt be easy draws anywhere ;)
along with Hewitt at Wimbledon 2002, and US Open 2001

its.like.that
06-17-2005, 10:49 AM
FO: every round he had to play a dirt baller or a very good player (like Roger)

Wimbledon: every round (almost) he has to play a grass court player

Paradorn
Mark
F.Lopez
Ancic
Hewitt
Federer
Roddick

is this a tough draw or what?
I really do not see what there is to be scared out...

Paradorn - having a terrible year, closes thing he has had to a good win was choking bigtime against Moya in Doha

Poussis - enough said...

Lopez - very inconsistant

Ancic - could be tough

Hewitt - rubbish...

Federer - tough

Roddick - if he beat Fed, he'll beat Rod.

doesn't seem like anything extraordinary in a slam for mine. at least Santoro isn't in his half :lol:.

Rosa Luxembourg
06-24-2005, 03:16 PM
May I remind about this thread? :p

BelgianWaffle
06-24-2005, 03:38 PM
You may.. :p
Well maybe he didn't have any luck but if you're good enough, you should be able to beat those guys. That applies to Marat also. He was absolute crap today against Lopez (who played great) and let's face it: in that form he wasn't gonna beat Ancic, Hewitt, Fed or Roddick anyway ;)

mer
06-24-2005, 03:41 PM
Marat's words

Unfortunately, I don't have really easy draw this year. But I probably deserve it, because the years before I had the easy ones and I couldn't make even past the first round.
I have to pay the price, I guess.

Experimentee
06-24-2005, 03:43 PM
The toughest draw of any seed at Wimbledon. Marat was playing well and if he'd been on the other half he probably would have got far :(

mitalidas
06-24-2005, 03:45 PM
The draw was tough for Marat, but only after he got through this match with F.Lo

Losing today has nothing to do with how difficult his draw would be later

BelgianWaffle
06-24-2005, 04:12 PM
The toughest draw of any seed at Wimbledon. Marat was playing well and if he'd been on the other half he probably would have got far :(

No he wouldn't have.. with the kind of level he played today he would've lost to anyone :rolleyes:

NYCtennisfan
06-24-2005, 04:21 PM
The draw was tough for Marat, but only after he got through this match with F.Lo

Losing today has nothing to do with how difficult his draw would be later

Yeah, F. Lo is talented, but you don't look at him sitting thre and say, "Damn, my draw is tough."

uNIVERSE mAN
06-24-2005, 04:51 PM
If there's a player on the other end with two arms, two legs and a tennis racquet, it's a tough draw for Safin.

Bibir
06-24-2005, 06:06 PM
Marat never complained about his draw, he said that he deserved it.

He lost today, but he made no excuses...He just said that Feli played very well.

mitalidas
06-24-2005, 06:27 PM
Quote:

The draw was tough for Marat, but only after he got through this match with F.Lo
Losing today has nothing to do with how difficult his draw would be later


Yeah, F. Lo is talented, but you don't look at him sitting thre and say, "Damn, my draw is tough."

that's precisely what I said. You misunderstand

Marat's losing today cannot be blamed on a tough draw
The toughness of his draw was based on what would come after he would supposedly beat F LO

Nacho
06-24-2005, 06:35 PM
it's not a surprise, Lopez leads their H2H 3-1 now and this time they met on Feli's favourite surface

NYCtennisfan
06-24-2005, 06:38 PM
that's precisely what I said. You misunderstand

Marat's losing today cannot be blamed on a tough draw
The toughness of his draw was based on what would come after he would supposedly beat F LO

I was agreeing with you:) Read it again. :) Marat didn't have a tough draw.

mitalidas
06-24-2005, 06:39 PM
I was agreeing with you:) Read it again. :) Marat didn't have a tough draw.

stupid me. I misunderstand!

And Stupid oaf. I wanted the hewitt safin battle very badly

NYCtennisfan
06-24-2005, 06:57 PM
^:) I watned to see Ancic/Safin and perhaps a Safin/LH rematch but it wasn't to be.

alexito
06-24-2005, 07:22 PM
the onlyone with luck in draw is federer.