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Who will win Wimbledon 2005 Discussion Thread

bad gambler
06-06-2005, 01:21 AM
I posted this thread just for the sake of completeness :cool:

Daniel
06-06-2005, 01:23 AM
Federer will win it , because he is the best on grass.

robinhood
06-06-2005, 01:24 AM
Fed'd better win it.
If he doesn't win, I am a bit afraid that he might lose motivation and interest in the rest of the season.
I think I will be, too.

ServeAlready81
06-06-2005, 01:30 AM
If Federer doesn't, I think Roddick might come through.

Tennis Fool
06-06-2005, 01:31 AM
Slight OT: But trivia time :yeah:

Who was the player who beat the supposed "2nd best on grass" on his first trip to Wimbledon 2 years ago? :cool:

bad gambler
06-06-2005, 01:33 AM
Slight OT: But trivia time :yeah:

Who was the player who beat the supposed "2nd best on grass" on his first trip to Wimbledon 2 years ago? :cool:


:lol:

El Legenda
06-06-2005, 01:35 AM
If Federer doesn't, I think Roddick might come through.

Roddick :haha:

Horatio Caine
06-06-2005, 01:35 AM
Tennis Fool! :haha: :haha: Class! :worship:

lucashg
06-06-2005, 01:36 AM
I hope and think Federer will win, unless he meets J. Johansson in the SF :o Seriously though, that would be freaky and so wrong.

There are a lot of real contenders to me: Federer, Roddick, Ancic, J. Johansson, Hewitt, Henman, Ljubicic, Nalbandian and Agassi (if he plays). Ferrero and Nadal might do well out of the clay-court specialists.

Horatio Caine
06-06-2005, 01:36 AM
Federer will win...but I want Henman to.

Seleshfan
06-06-2005, 01:36 AM
Slight OT: But trivia time :yeah:

Who was the player who beat the supposed "2nd best on grass" on his first trip to Wimbledon 2 years ago? :cool:

Nadal?

alfonsojose
06-06-2005, 01:37 AM
Pim Pim

Horatio Caine
06-06-2005, 01:37 AM
Ljubo will stuff up by R4...he always does wherever he goes :o

Besides, being Nottingham champ is more of a curse... :scared: but there again he doesn't know how to win titles! :lol:

robinhood
06-06-2005, 01:39 AM
Who was the player who beat the supposed "2nd best on grass" on his first trip to Wimbledon 2 years ago? :cool:

Some posters seem to be enjoying this trivia, but I don't get it.
Who was it???

VingaRafel
06-06-2005, 01:46 AM
Rogelio Federero.

El Legenda
06-06-2005, 01:48 AM
Some posters seem to be enjoying this trivia, but I don't get it.
Who was it???

2 years ago Roger beat Roddick...

robinhood
06-06-2005, 01:52 AM
2 years ago Roger beat Roddick...

But the question was who beat the second best grass player on his first appearance at Wimby.
It wasn't the first appearance for either of them... :confused:

Agh, why am I stressing over a trivia question?
But if someone could explain it more clearly, that wouldn't hurt.
Thanks

bad gambler
06-06-2005, 01:54 AM
But the question was who beat the second best grass player on his first appearance at Wimby.
It wasn't the first appearance for either of them... :confused:

Agh, why am I stressing over a trivia question?
But if someone could explain it more clearly, that wouldn't hurt.
Thanks

it was indeed the 2005 RG champ :)

sigmagirl91
06-06-2005, 01:55 AM
I didn't get it either. The second-best grass court player could encompass many players from different eras of the game (the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s). If it were narrowed down a little more, the question could get answered.

sigmagirl91
06-06-2005, 01:56 AM
it was indeed the 2005 RG champ :)

Who did he beat?

Horatio Caine
06-06-2005, 01:56 AM
Robinhood... many idiots say Ancic is #2 on grass. He was beaten in R1 at Wimby 2003 by a certain Nadal ;)

Lady Natalia
06-06-2005, 01:57 AM
The Swiss occupation will continue...

Tennis Fool
06-06-2005, 01:58 AM
I didn't get it either. The second-best grass court player could encompass many players from different eras of the game (the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s). If it were narrowed down a little more, the question could get answered.

:secret: I took the title from the subject line of a thread on the current forum page.

bad gambler
06-06-2005, 02:11 AM
Who did he beat?

There are some people out there who think ancic is the 2nd best on grass, Tennis Fool was just taking the piss out of them with the question.

Nadal beat Ancic in 2003 Rd 1

robinhood
06-06-2005, 02:14 AM
Robinhood... many idiots say Ancic is #2 on grass. He was beaten in R1 at Wimby 2003 by a certain Nadal ;)

Aha~
Thanks, jez.
I feel stupid. :banghead:

DanEd
06-06-2005, 02:17 AM
Chucho Acasuso

sigmagirl91
06-06-2005, 02:33 AM
There are some people out there who think ancic is the 2nd best on grass, Tennis Fool was just taking the piss out of them with the question.

Nadal beat Ancic in 2003 Rd 1

Oh..... :o

jenanun
06-06-2005, 02:36 AM
tim henman.... i just have a feeling that he can do it this year.
btw... last time liverpool won champion league,
a british person won the wimbledon...

so this year...

sigmagirl91
06-06-2005, 03:02 AM
Oscar Hernandez :o

Mimi
06-06-2005, 03:46 AM
i think: roger or roddick
i wish: ancic :cool:

tangerine_dream
06-06-2005, 03:52 AM
Somehow, someway, Pim-Pim will manage to beat Roger on July 1 :sobbing:

We need to start a Pim-Pim watch thread for Wimbledon yes, I'm supersticious

Lady Natalia
06-06-2005, 04:06 AM
Somehow, someway, Pim-Pim will manage to beat Roger on July 1 :sobbing:

We need to start a Pim-Pim watch thread for Wimbledon yes, I'm supersticious

It wont happen! It just could not. 3 times. Not possible. Never. No way.

Devotee
06-06-2005, 04:17 AM
interesting tidbits of information:
(didn't know Shanghai TMC would be on carpet)



From ESPN.COM:
Nadal reached the third round at Wimbledon in his debut there in 2003, the youngest to do so since a 16-year-old Boris Becker in 1984.

. . . . . . .

His French Open title automatically means he'll likely play on carpet at the Master's Cup.

deliveryman
06-06-2005, 04:23 AM
Federer crushing Hewitt in the finals.

oneandonlyhsn
06-06-2005, 04:30 AM
Federer crushing Hewitt in the finals.

God no, not another Federer - Hewitt final, but Fed for Wimby glory :worship:

NATAS81
06-06-2005, 04:34 AM
It all depends on the draw of course.

If PimPim draws Roger, or anyone for that matter, lookout.

Pim will be in attack mode after setting the record for most aces in the first fast court grand slam (AO) vs Agassi.

Not too many in the game are capable of keeping up.

If he works on the rest of his game and puts his deadly fast groundstrokes together, definitely one of watch for.

You obviously have Federer, past champion.

Hewitt, never count out his fiestiness. He will want to come out of the gates strong after injury.

So many variables in this tournament. Popp lost in three tough sets to Roddick last year.

Overall, the big servers obivously have the edge (Roddick, Arthurs, Popp, Johansson, Phillipoussis, etc).

Don't be so quick to count out Nadal, though I feel his weak serve and topspin forehand will not post too much of a problem for the keen reflexes.

Lady Natalia
06-06-2005, 04:36 AM
Pim Pim is rather tall. Can he handle the low balls of Wimbledon?

NATAS81
06-06-2005, 04:39 AM
Pim Pim is rather tall. Can he handle the low balls of Wimbledon?
Yeah, he's 6'6" a man beast if you will.

I don't see why not. He's got tremendous wingspan and that certainly helps him getting balls back, and he won't have to run as much.

He isn't as powerful pound-for-pound as Rafa, but he can get the most out of his shot as anyone in the game, and that is more important than anything for him along with the serve.

He isn't quite as well-rounded yet, but his game has a long way to go.

He only really busted onto the scene last year, and I look for him to add to his credentials which include defeating Roddick @ USO.

With a serve like his, it's not out of the question to see him have one of the few winning records against Federer IF they meet on fast surfaces.

Lady Natalia
06-06-2005, 04:43 AM
If he and Roger are to meet, I hope Tony tells Roger to use his good old slice. He has gotten away from it in recent past. It would help him with a tall guy like Pim Pim

megadeth
06-06-2005, 04:45 AM
i don't think hewitt will be back soon and be in top form to get to the wimby finals.

my prediction would be:

federer

megadeth
06-06-2005, 04:46 AM
forgive my ignorance, but who the hell is pim pim?

NATAS81
06-06-2005, 04:51 AM
Well, since you have 3 posts only I'll forgive you for asking.

As I've explained, a big lanky Swede who is known for grass/hardcourt specialist.

He hasn't really make his big move yet, but most of the ATP is aware of what he can bring game-in and game-out on the fast stuff.

One of the smoothest, consistant service motions you'll see.

Sort of like the Molik of the ATP, if you will.

As for how "Pim" was coined, Pim is a candy sold in Sweden and happens to be a favorite of Johansson's. Hence, the name Pim just added 2nd verse and there you have "Pim Pim".

Joachim Johansson in the birth certificate mold.

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-06-2005, 04:56 AM
Andy, because, 2005 Roger likes to share

Gonzo Hates Me!
06-06-2005, 04:58 AM
forgive my ignorance, but who the hell is pim pim?

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

I know this is a serious question, but still, I wish people would call him Joachim. I mean, how he got the nickname is cute and all. But I think it's cheesy

robinhood
06-06-2005, 04:58 AM
forgive my ignorance, but who the hell is pim pim?

Joachim Johansson

megadeth
06-06-2005, 05:01 AM
thanks!

i think federer will be very dangerous now. i'm sure he's so fired up to win this thing already and prove to everyone that he's still the big cheese...

Tennis Fool
06-06-2005, 05:45 AM
What Fed thinks:

"The guys that are going to be heavy favourites for Wimbledon are Hewitt, Roddick and Safin, in my eyes.

"And Rafael is coming in with very little preparation, but I still believe he's going to be good on grass, too. No question.

"The guys who make it to the top five - they can play on any surface. It's how tennis works."

El Legenda
06-06-2005, 05:48 AM
What Fed thinks:

"The guys that are going to be heavy favourites for Wimbledon are Hewitt, Roddick and Safin, in my eyes.

"And Rafael is coming in with very little preparation, but I still believe he's going to be good on grass, too. No question.

"The guys who make it to the top five - they can play on any surface. It's how tennis works."

what does he know :rolleyes: ;)

drf716
06-06-2005, 05:51 AM
i predict that if marat wins his first round, he will go beyond the first round.

El Legenda
06-06-2005, 05:52 AM
IVAN"THE YANK KILLER" Ljubicic Better make it to QF or i will kick his ass.

rue
06-06-2005, 05:53 AM
Federer is the favorite and would be very surprised if he did not win it again this year.

megadeth
06-06-2005, 05:56 AM
i predict that if marat wins his first round, he will go beyond the first round.

well, obviously, if he wins round 1, he'll go beyond round 1 right? :)

deliveryman
06-06-2005, 06:10 AM
well, obviously, if he wins round 1, he'll go beyond round 1 right? :)

Wow. You're a quick one.

drf716
06-06-2005, 06:15 AM
well, obviously, if he wins round 1, he'll go beyond round 1 right? :)
mismo!

RonE
06-06-2005, 07:09 AM
Pim pim is somewhat of an unkown quantity on grass. Yes he made the 4th round last year in Wimbledon and he has a huge serve but what seperates the men from the boys on this surface is the quick reflexes and ability to return serve. And the footwork is slightly different on grass. Take Martin Verkerk for example- big serve but could never do well on grass because of his movment. While I am not placing JJ in the Verkerk department, it remains to be seen how he can put his qualities into the greatest effect on this surface.

alexa18
06-06-2005, 07:36 AM
Marat will win wimbledon!! :o :rolleyes: :bolt:

Clara Bow
06-06-2005, 07:44 AM
Think: Federer
Want: Federer or Henman (yeah- I know...not gonna happen but a girl can dream)

fanancic
06-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Mario Ancic will win Wimbledon...

sigmagirl91
06-07-2005, 11:48 AM
i predict that if marat wins his first round, he will go beyond the first round.

You don't say....

Auscon
06-07-2005, 01:01 PM
I dont think anyone will stop Roger taking his 3rd straight

Roddick has the capability to surprise though, and some may see it as stupid, but I'm not counting out Lleytons ability to win this thing, even if it means having to go through Roger

TheMightyFed
06-07-2005, 01:15 PM
Imagine if Nadal wins how pissed off would be Rogi :eek: :mad: :banghead:

Fi-Fi
06-07-2005, 01:26 PM
Imagine if Nadal wins how pissed off would be Rogi :eek: :mad: :banghead:
fed's expression in that situation...i'd LOVE to see

its.like.that
06-07-2005, 01:33 PM
Henman will win Wimbledon...

Angle Queen
06-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Federer will win...but I want Henman to.:sad: but true. C'mon Tim!!!

There are a lot of real contenders to me: Federer, Roddick, Ancic, J. Johansson, Hewitt, Henman, Ljubicic, Nalbandian and Agassi (if he plays). Ferrero and Nadal might do well out of the clay-court specialists.Also true...but I'd add Ferrer to the last list. He can handle pace and isn't afraid to come to net. Always a plus at The Championships. Gasquet showed he can have an all-court game...but still might be a little too fresh. Maybe this time next year he'll be in the talked-about group as well. Davydenko had a great run at RG but is probably even more suited to faster surfaces...so that could mean he'd still be around in the second week too.

MariaV
06-07-2005, 01:36 PM
LMAO. They cannot just give it to Tim. :lol:

But seriously, I'd like Rogi to win it again. I hope he can do it. :D HOPP ROGI!!!!! :bounce: :bigclap: :yippee:

max122
06-07-2005, 01:43 PM
Agassi or Roger i think

adele
06-07-2005, 03:31 PM
Marat, of course! :lol:

tangerine_dream
06-07-2005, 06:25 PM
Bud Collins weighs in.....

Roddick needs to ace Wimbledon
U.S. star among top players with something to prove on grasscourts

COMMENTARY
By Bud Collins
NBC Sports
June 6, 2005

If all the top players show up it could be a truly exciting fortnight at Wimbledon. But as the warmup tournaments to the year's third major unfold, some big names have big questions over their games, especially American Andy Roddick, who hasn't had much to boast about in the last year.

Looking for a big showing
I feel Roddick will be one to watch at Wimbledon, where he was a finalist last year (losing to Federer) and a semifinalist in 2003 (also losing to Federer).

Roddick has a tremendous serve that can lift him to great heights on grass.

But Roddick also has to deal with the fact that if we're talking about coming through when it really counts, he hasnít played well since Wimbledon last year.

Heís got a lot to overcome as he has to start to show himself well in big moments and matches or his name could stop being mentioned when talking about the top players on the men's tour.

Last year as the defending champion, Roddick had a bad U.S. Open, losing to Swede Joachim Johansson in the quarterfinals. Then he had a bad Davis Cup Final performance when the U.S. fell to Spain, losing to Rafael Nadal and Carlos Moya.

And this year in the first round of Davis Cup play, Roddick lost to Ivan Ljubicic in five sets.

There is also his loss in the second round at Roland Garros, which isnít that surprising since he doesnít favor clay, but it continued the pattern of Roddick disappointments.

Wimbledon is definitely going to be a real test for Roddick.

Roger Federer
Well, no surprise here, but Roger Federer is one of my strong candidates to win Wimbledon.

Heís got a lot going for him at Wimbledon, starting with the fact that heís the defending champion and he is a magnificent grasscourt player.

Iím confident that heís going to serve better than he did at Roland Garros. On grass, he seems to find the lines and he believes in himself on the lawns.

And then thereís the issue that he needs to win Wimbledon. Heís missed out on titles in the first two majors of the year -Ė losing twice in the semifinals -- at the Australian Open to Marat Safin and at Roland Garros to Rafael Nadal.

I doubt that Federer will be disheartened by his loss in Paris, although he did lose his touch in the match against Nadal.

I guess as people were anointing Federer as the greatest player of all, he showed he really isnít, at least not at the moment and at least not on red clay.

But at Wimbledon, he certainly has to be considered a strong favorite.

Tim Henman
I know that the entire British nation is still living in hope that Henman can make a run to the Wimbledon title.

Itís only Henman and Federer who have true grasscourt games.

Henman has capably shown that by reaching four Wimbledon semifinals -Ė in 1998, 1999, 2001, and 2002 -Ė but he hasnít been able to venture further, which has disappointed one and all Brits.

If Henman gets the right breaks, I give him a shot at winning Wimbledon. He needs the weather to be good and the courts to play fast if heís going to rule over the entire British Empire.

The downside for Henman is he just doesnít seem able to win the big matches.

Many might say heís getting older -Ė heís 30 -Ė and that's a factor in this lack of success, but personally I think heís in good shape so Iím not putting too much stock in his age.

I think the hardest thing for Henman is that at Wimbledon he is carrying the weight of his entire country -Ė and thatís a lot to have on one's shoulders.

Mario Ancic
The Croatian found his way all the way to the semifinals of Wimbledon last year.

Heís tall with a strong serve, and he has a good volley along with wonderful reach on the court.

Heís also had two good moments at Wimbledon -- beating Federer in the first round in 2002 as a qualifier, and sticking it to Roddick in a close match in last yearís semifinal before losing 6-4, 4-6, 7-5, 7-5.

Ancic is also desperate to follow in the footsteps of fellow Split native, Goran Ivanisevic, which means going to the winnerís circle at Wimbledon. The popular Ivanisevic took the title over Pat Rafter in his fourth Wimbledon final appearance in 2001.

A problem for Ancic could be that he sports a very similar personality to Ivanisevic and will often lose his temper if things arenít going well.

And while his height gives him great reach, it also works against him with his movement. But if he can keep himself in control, he could go far.

Ivan Ljubicic
Iím going to take a flier with Ljubicic as my darkhorse at Wimbledon.

I know he didnít fare very well at Roland Garros, going out to eventual French Open finalist Mariano Puerta in the first round, but I like the guy.

Heís got a good serve, volleys pretty well and heís been to Wimbledon and knows his way around.

And he certainly gained a great deal of confidence in single-handedly taking the U.S. to task in the Davis Cup first round in February. He beat Andre Agassi and Andy Roddick in singles play and everyone starting calling him the ĎIronmanĒ of tennis.

I admit Ljubicic's a real long shot as he has never been beyond the second round at the All-England Club, but maybe he can make a breakthrough this year.

Sommarsverige
06-07-2005, 06:47 PM
Roger!

Alisa
06-07-2005, 07:12 PM
I think roger will do it, but it would be hard for him, cause marat, rafael, even nikolay davydenko will be on his way. roddick,lleyton too. but i guess it will be his grand slam. he is more confident there. maybe it'll be his only 2005 GS.

Skyward
06-07-2005, 07:16 PM
As of today Flip is the most prepared player for Wimbledon. :lol:

undomiele
06-07-2005, 08:27 PM
Id like Nalbandian to make it far. Outside of that wish I don't much care... :yawn: Just not a grass fan.

lina_seta
06-07-2005, 08:40 PM
Bud collins is a butt! >=( whos not the best player? (at the moment?)

NATAS81
06-07-2005, 08:58 PM
Agassi :haha: :haha: :haha:

End of the line, bald warrior.

dylan24
06-07-2005, 11:33 PM
federer better win.
i've bet on him to win aussie open, french open.
hopefully federer can win wimbledon and us open
this year

Deivid23
06-07-2005, 11:36 PM
Hope Mario can make things interesting, Go Mario :yeah:

NATAS81
06-08-2005, 12:33 AM
Finals @ London is a good warmup for Mario.