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French Open Men's Final: the best day of the year...but saddest too :-(

NicoFan
06-04-2005, 10:33 PM
Okay.... you can all laugh at me, yell at me, make fun of me... ;)

But I love tennis on the dirt.

And I dislike the grass...and I really don't care about hardcourts...serve serve serve...

And all my favorites are the clay court guys - Nico, Fena, Rafa, JC, Fer, Feli, Guille, David F., Gaston...

If only the entire year could be played on clay, I would be the happiest person on earth.

So here's to next February - the start of the clay court season in 2006!!!

[Bracing for the onslaught here... ]

Carolinita
06-04-2005, 10:42 PM
Okay.... you can all laugh at me, yell at me, make fun of me... ;)

But I love tennis on the dirt.

And I dislike the grass...and I really don't care about hardcourts...serve serve serve...

And all my favorites are the clay court guys - Nico, Fena, Rafa, JC, Fer, Feli, Guille, David F., Gaston...

If only the entire year could be played on clay, I would be the happiest person on earth.

So here's to next February - the start of the clay court season in 2006!!!

[Bracing for the onslaught here... ]

well...I think like you...I love the clay season...grass is :ras: (sorry for the grass fans :p )

NicoFan
06-04-2005, 10:48 PM
And love the strategy aspect of the game on clay...none of that on hardcourts. All power...which is boring... :yawn:

Chris Seahorse
06-04-2005, 10:53 PM
I really do understand how you feel. I like clay too. Although I must admit I like grass alot too.

But my view is that I always get great pleasure at watching players play on their worst surface. How well a player fights when they are on a surface they are not comfortable on reveals more about a players character than anything else. I love watching a good claycourter adapting their game to grass. Many are very good at it.

Nadal, Verdasco, Ferrero and yes even Massu (3rd round in 2001) can all play on grass to a pretty good standard. Nadal could be very very good on grass in a couple of years. Gonzalez hasn't yet learnt to adapt his game to grass but when/if he does it will be real fun to watch.

And Lopez is anything but a claycourt specialist. I've seen Lopez play on grass a few times and his game is made for grass and I have no doubt one of these years we will see him in the semi finals of Wimbledon.

So don't get too disheartened. Just enjoy watching your favorites as they handle their toughest challenge. Keep your expectations low and when you see them produce a good win you can be truly proud of them for winning in the most challenging of circumstances. :)

Deivid23
06-04-2005, 10:57 PM
And all my favorites are the clay court guys - Nico, Fena, Rafa, JC, Fer, Feli, Guille, David F., Gaston...


Feli :shrug:

NicoFan
06-04-2005, 10:58 PM
You're right...Feli does not like the clay...lol!

I think Fena got to the 3rd round last year at Wimbledon too...so maybe he can improve this year.

And Nico won on the hardcourts at the Olympics.

So all is not lost...just prefer them on clay (except Feli).. ;)

Deivid23
06-04-2005, 10:58 PM
And Lopez is anything but a claycourt specialist. I've seen Lopez play on grass a few times and his game is made for grass and I have no doubt one of these years we will see him in the semi finals of Wimbledon.



I have no doubt he won´t ever reach semifinals there ;)

Chris Seahorse
06-04-2005, 11:17 PM
I have no doubt he won´t ever reach semifinals there ;)

I know you don't like Lopez which is fair enough. And on clay his game certainly has weeknesses, particularly the backhand, but on grass that backhand slice works a treat. I suspect you haven't seen him play on grass before. On grass he really does play with real style. I don't expect he will ever be a particularly strong player on clay but on grass he does have a great game.

Deivid23
06-04-2005, 11:23 PM
I know you don't like Lopez which is fair enough. And on clay his game certainly has weeknesses, particularly the backhand, but on grass that backhand slice works a treat.

Agree, that´s exactly why grass is the best surface for him. He only can hit the slice on his bh and that´s a pretty efficient stroke on grass.

I suspect you haven't seen him play on grass before. On grass he really does play with real style. I don't expect he will ever be a particularly strong player on clay but on grass he does have a great game.

Wrong suspect. I think I´ve seen all his matches in Wimbledon and I think some others in Halle I think it was. His return abilities are poor, he´s not strong mentally, he´s not a good volleyer as many people tend to agree and imo he´s not good enough to reach semis there or ever win another ATP title.

NYCtennisfan
06-04-2005, 11:23 PM
The best day of the year is the Wimbledon final NYC208 ;)

NicoFan
06-04-2005, 11:33 PM
The best day of the year is the Wimbledon final NYC208 ;)

No way...lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Though I loved Wimbledon when I was there last year...beautiful tournament...and a lot of fun...too bad we can't change those grass courts over to clay courts... :)

Chris Seahorse
06-04-2005, 11:34 PM
Agree, that´s exactly why grass is the best surface for him. He only can hit the slice on his bh and that´s a pretty efficient stroke on grass.



Wrong suspect. I think I´ve seen all his matches in Wimbledon and I think some others in Halle I think it was. His return abilities are poor, he´s not strong mentally, he´s not a good volleyer as many people tend to agree and imo he´s not good enough to reach semis there or ever win another ATP title.

Hmmm.......I must say his match against Canas three years ago was one of the most entertaining matches I've see at Wimbledon and his performances vs Youzhny, Schuettler and Saretta were all really strong. I would say he's a pretty good volleyer actually. Sure he makes a mess of some volleys but who doesn't.

Seeing as you dislike Lopez so much I must say I'm surprised that you have put yourself through the displeasure of seeing every one of his Wimbledon matches. That would be like me listening to every single Oasis album and b-side as well. Gosh that's a horrible thought. :mad:

Deivid23
06-04-2005, 11:36 PM
Seeing as you dislike Lopez so much I must say I'm surprised that you have put yourself through the displeasure of seeing every one of his Wimbledon matches. That would be like me listening to every single Oasis album and b-side as well. Gosh that's a horrible thought. :mad:

You would be surprised of the kind of matches my eyes have witnessed (last big one was a Carlsen vs Srichaphan on clay in Barcelona :rolleyes: )

Chris Seahorse
06-04-2005, 11:42 PM
You would be surprised of the kind of matches my eyes have witnessed (last big one was a Carlsen vs Srichaphan on clay in Barcelona :rolleyes: )

I would have enjoyed watching that. It would have appealed to my taste for black comedy. :devil:

oneandonlyhsn
06-05-2005, 01:14 AM
No way...lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

Though I loved Wimbledon when I was there last year...beautiful tournament...and a lot of fun...too bad we can't change those grass courts over to clay courts... :)

:eek: No bleeping way, I think clay season is too long anyway, and no I dont dislike clay. I just think one of the masters should be played on grass.

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 11:35 AM
You would be surprised of the kind of matches my eyes have witnessed (last big one was a Carlsen vs Srichaphan on clay in Barcelona :rolleyes: )

I am so jealous I missed that match of the highest quality.

Horatio Caine
06-05-2005, 12:09 PM
Yeah i like watching clay court tennis but for me, it is no fun seeing my favourite players bomb out early in 90% of the events!! Grass is less fun to watch but at least we can say that Henman, Rusedski and the odd journey-man Brit make the month interesting.

HENMAN, Flanagan, Hilton, Marray and Delgado last year...who this year?? :tape:

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 12:11 PM
If only the entire year could be played on clay, I would be the happiest person on earth.
[Bracing for the onslaught here... ]

What are you complaing about? There are plenty of clay events the Lugano and Braunschweig Challengers.

Then the real season starts again with Båstad and Gstaad, then onto Stuttgart, Amersfoort, Kiz, Umag, Sopot, then Bucharest and Palermo.

Horatio Caine
06-05-2005, 12:19 PM
Then the real season starts again with Båstad and Gstaad, then onto Stuttgart, Amersfoort, Kiz, Umag, Sopot, then Bucharest and Palermo.

:lol: Can't pull you away from the dirt can we?

At least a few of those events are the same week as Newport, Nottingham and Manchester challengers :devil:

bad gambler
06-05-2005, 12:21 PM
My happiest day :cool:

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 12:21 PM
:lol: Can't pull you away from the dirt can we?

At least a few of those events are the same week as Newport, Nottingham and Manchester challengers :devil:

Nottingham will be a challenger field and Newport a Futures event.

Rogiman
06-05-2005, 12:23 PM
What are you complaing about? There are plenty of clay events the Lugano and Braunschweig Challengers.

Then the real season starts again with Båstad and Gstaad, then onto Stuttgart, Amersfoort, Kiz, Umag, Sopot, then Bucharest and Palermo.

GWH, the Mickey Mouse troll :devil:

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 12:28 PM
GWH, the Mickey Mouse troll :devil:

Kitzbhuel ISG Gold something that Memphis hasn't deserved since Elvis died.

Quality clay events my friend any event that Acasuso has won has to be quality.

*Ljubica*
06-05-2005, 12:33 PM
I wanted to GoodRep you for starting this thread Nico, but it says I must spread the love around first - so please accept a big :hug: instead. As others have already said here - there are still other clay court tourneys here in Europe for the Summer - Bastad, Gstaad, Kitzbuehel etc, - so "real" tennis isn't totally dead yet!!!!

Horatio Caine
06-05-2005, 12:36 PM
Nottingham will be a challenger field and Newport a Futures event.

It's all good so long as Greg defends it! :lol: :scared:

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 12:44 PM
It's all good so long as Greg defends it! :lol: :scared:

I hope Puerta plays and that he stands 4m behind the baseline hitting heavy topspin.

Horatio Caine
06-05-2005, 12:48 PM
I hope Puerta plays and that he stands 4m behind the baseline hitting heavy topspin.

Yeah, that could be a problem! :lol:

Maybe I can hope that he reaches the Nottingham final (assuming he plays)...I couldn't think of anything better than to see Ljubo dumped out of SF. :devil:

NicoFan
06-05-2005, 12:48 PM
I wanted to GoodRep you for starting this thread Nico, but it says I must spread the love around first - so please accept a big :hug: instead. As others have already said here - there are still other clay court tourneys here in Europe for the Summer - Bastad, Gstaad, Kitzbuehel etc, - so "real" tennis isn't totally dead yet!!!!

Gracias Rosie... a big :hug: back!

Yeah, I know about the summer clay...I am just being a selfish clay court snob brat - I want it all. :devil:

I won't be happy until the US Open goes back to clay ... which I know will never happen ... but a girl can dream, can't she??? :p

*Ljubica*
06-05-2005, 12:49 PM
Gracias Rosie... a big :hug: back!

Yeah, I know about the summer clay...I am just being a selfish clay court snob brat - I want it all. :devil:

I won't be happy until the US Open goes back to clay ... which I know will never happen ... but a girl can dream, can't she??? :p

Well if you're going to be a snob - a Clay Court one is the best variety to be ;)

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 12:50 PM
Yeah, that could be a problem! :lol:

Maybe I can hope that he reaches the Nottingham final (assuming he plays)...I couldn't think of anything better than to see Ljubo dumped out of SF. :devil:

Puerta is on the list to play Nottingham.

Nothing like a claycourt match on grass, and seeing 2 S/V players on clay is enjoyable as well.

Action Jackson
06-05-2005, 12:54 PM
Well if you're going to be a snob - a Clay Court one is the best variety to be ;)

Even better being a Nazi clay court snob. :)

*Ljubica*
06-05-2005, 02:38 PM
And this Mens' Final is truly a feast for us snobs................loads of beautiful lobs and drop shots, endless long, gruelling, powerful rallies - two men giving it their all with grit and determination and using their brains to construct points (none of this one big serve and the point's over stuff) - I'm loving it :) OK - break between sets is over - back to the TV :)

Federer Fan
06-05-2005, 02:55 PM
I dont think this is the best day of the year. It is definitely the best day in June, at least until The Championships start....

Action Jackson
06-06-2005, 08:47 AM
Yes, and what a good final it was.

If Nadal wins Båstad and Umag then even better.

Ferrero Forever
06-06-2005, 08:58 AM
Clay is the best. All my faves do the best on clay (except for Feli,) and I would give anything to go to a claycourt tourney as well.