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RF the most versatile since Bjorn Borg ?

TheMightyFed
05-19-2005, 09:15 AM
With 5 tournies on clay (incl. 3 TMS) and 4 tournies on grass (incl. 2W), I think Federer is the successor of Borg, with the rarest skill in tennis: mastering both clay and grass.
Ask Coria and Roddick what they think about it... ;)

Action Jackson
05-19-2005, 09:18 AM
I forgot that Federer was a good tennis player.

TheMightyFed
05-19-2005, 09:45 AM
I forgot that Federer was a good tennis player.
Yep, but he really starts to enter a new league winning consistently clay TMS, he's starting to achieve something very few players have achieved before: winning consistently and over the years important TITLES on ALL types of surface...

Action Jackson
05-19-2005, 09:55 AM
Yep, but he really starts to enter a new league winning consistently clay TMS, he's starting to achieve something NO ONE has achieved before: winning consistently and over the years important TITLES on ALL types of surface...

Why do feel the need to brag about him to this level, though not to the makro level? People and real tennis fans know how good Federer is and how he is the standard the rest of the players have to rise to.

Is it because there is a threat from other players getting some limelight?

He has to win Wimbledon and RG in the same year before he could be compared to Borg.

TheMightyFed
05-19-2005, 10:18 AM
Why do feel the need to brag about him to this level, though not to the makro level? People and real tennis fans know how good Federer is and how he is the standard the rest of the players have to rise to.

Is it because there is a threat from other players getting some limelight?

He has to win Wimbledon and RG in the same year before he could be compared to Borg.
Just because it's quite rare, and it seems that with Nadal we could have two very complete players on the tour, which is even rarer...

Puschkin
05-19-2005, 10:20 AM
You two get too predictable ;)

Action Jackson
05-19-2005, 10:28 AM
You two get too predictable ;)

Aren't you due to make excuses justifying Federer's defeats?

Puschkin
05-19-2005, 10:53 AM
Aren't you due to make excuses justifying Federer's defeats?

Yes, I am a regular thread-starter pouring out excuses for Roger's numerous defeats :devil:

Action Jackson
05-19-2005, 10:54 AM
Yes, I am a regular thread-starter pouring out excuses for Roger's numerous defeats :devil:

You want predictability, so I am following your example.

Puschkin
05-19-2005, 10:57 AM
You want predictability .

On the contrary: I commented that you two are too predictable on the subject. I admit I am bored, but not so bored to continue this :p

Billy Moonshine
05-19-2005, 11:03 AM
Agassi is most versatile player since Borg. He has won all GS.
When Fed wins RG, then it will be him.

Adman
05-19-2005, 11:20 AM
With 5 tournies on clay (incl. 3 TMS) and 4 tournies on grass (incl. 2W), I think Federer is the successor of Borg, with the rarest skill in tennis: mastering both clay and grass.
Ask Coria and Roddick what they think about it... ;)

I think that Federer is the true sucessor to Borg and I hope that Borg can hold on to the 5 Wimbledon titles record.

TheMightyFed
05-19-2005, 11:36 AM
Agassi is most versatile player since Borg. He has won all GS.
When Fed wins RG, then it will be him.
Agassi is quite versatile but mostly in Grand Slams, and his victories in Wimby and Roland Garros are great but have not been confirmed with other titles. He did many semis, finals, etc., but the recuring titles are the mark of greatest ever, cf Laver, Borg, Sampras... AO is Agassi trademark, which is with USO the "non specialist" slam...
I agree that Federer needs a RG title to be officially labelled "versatile", but his double Wimby + triple Hamburg is quite impressive given the fields he had to beat in these events. Even this year his draw was call the "hell draw"...

TheMightyFed
05-19-2005, 11:40 AM
On the contrary: I commented that you two are too predictable on the subject. I admit I am bored, but not so bored to continue this :p
I'm not a makro120 replica, I'm a true Fed fan but I enjoy and appreciate other players. Here I'm just puting a bit of nuance in the classic "Federer is great" by mentioning that besides his proven dominance on hard courts, Fed manages to win important titles both on clay and grass, on a consistent basis. After all they are not so numerous the Wimby double-winners who have a triple MS on clay... actually I don't know anyone...

its.like.that
05-19-2005, 11:40 AM
Agassi is most versatile player since Borg. He has won all GS.
When Fed wins RG, then it will be him.
agassi isnt versatile, he's useless on grass and clay... and maybe hardcourt too :p

Action Jackson
05-19-2005, 11:42 AM
I'm not a makro120 replica, I'm a true Fed fan but I enjoy and appreciate other players. Here I'm just puting a bit of nuance in the classic "Federer is great" by mentioning that besides his proven dominance on hard courts, Fed manages to win important titles both on clay and grass, on a consistent basis. After all they are not so numerous the Wimby double-winners who have a triple MS on clay... actually I don't know anyone...

No, you are looking for an excuse to gloat and this is the one you have got this time and you were such a fan, you tuned out of tennis for a while.