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Donald Young loses in 1st Round of a Junior ITF ....

Alvarillo
05-16-2005, 07:52 PM
1/6 2/6 against Russian Chekhov Junior World Nº44 ..... :eek:

Alvarillo
05-16-2005, 07:53 PM
in Bonfiglio Grade A tournament in Italy

croat123
05-16-2005, 08:01 PM
:haha:
another american that sucks on clay :devil:

robinhood
05-16-2005, 08:04 PM
I guess he has a lot to learn.

Jenrios
05-16-2005, 08:13 PM
:haha: :haha:
another american that sucks on clay :devil:

:haha:

Angle Queen
05-16-2005, 08:19 PM
And this comes as a surprise to anyone?

Rushed way ahead of his time (if it will ever come).

Agent X
05-16-2005, 08:25 PM
Even if Young wins 8 slams people will probably say he\'s underachieved. It\'s gonna be unbelievably hard for him to live up to his hype. I feel for him.

2 other juniors to look out for....Andy Murray from Scotland, plays with the heart of Nadal and will be good for the game, only player from Britain that will get anywhere near doing well when Henman retires. Plays a bit like Nalbandian. Also Sergiy Bubka, son of the legendary pole vaulter. Haven\'t seen a massive amount of him but he looks like a great prospect.

Kip
05-16-2005, 10:23 PM
I guess he has a lot to learn.

Ofcourse, he's only 15!

Donald was never ready to be thrusted into the pro
ranks. I blame his parents for this.

Despite wheather or not Donald wanted to go
pro, at 15 and with his build and talent he
simply wasn't and isn't yet ready to compete
in the pro's. His parents should have knew better
but I'm guessing the notariety and money were too
much for them to resist.

I hope Donald can improve, not because of this but under
the spotlight of scrutiny he's been put in. It'll be tougher
for him because more people than usual will be watching
his every move.

El Legenda
05-16-2005, 10:26 PM
:haha:

Golfnduck
05-16-2005, 10:45 PM
Wow. I think some juniors rush to the pro circuit too quickly. Donald should hold back and develop his game.

gooner88
05-16-2005, 11:20 PM
2 other juniors to look out for....Andy Murray from Scotland, plays with the heart of Nadal and will be good for the game, only player from Britain that will get anywhere near doing well when Henman retires. Plays a bit like Nalbandian. Also Sergiy Bubka, son of the legendary pole vaulter. Haven\'t seen a massive amount of him but he looks like a great prospect.

I remember a Murray interview on the BBC Sports Academy website last year when he said his game was alot like Coria's, not Nalbandian.

onewoman74
05-16-2005, 11:38 PM
I hope they stop giving this kid wildcards at US tournies. He needs to work his way up the Junior rankings.

erik-the-red
05-16-2005, 11:44 PM
A. He's an American playing on a surface unnatural to him.

B. He's fifteen.

C. He was unfairly overhyped.

vincayou
05-17-2005, 12:08 AM
Even if Young wins 8 slams people will probably say he\'s underachieved. It\'s gonna be unbelievably hard for him to live up to his hype. I feel for him.



8 slams. :rolleyes:
Even for Nadal, I don't hear this kind of expectation of winning 8 slams. But that's funny, I read this young boy saying that he wanted to win each slam twice. Isn't it strange to have this kind of ambition at this age?

Agent X
05-17-2005, 12:13 AM
8 slams. :rolleyes:
Even for Nadal, I don't hear this kind of expectation of winning 8 slams. But that's funny, I read this young boy saying that he wanted to win each slam twice. Isn't it strange to have this kind of ambition at this age?

8 slams was just a random number. I was just trying to make my point about how too much is/will be expected from him. There's absolutely no way he'll win each slam twice, its just not possible in this day and age.

vincayou
05-17-2005, 12:22 AM
8 slams was just a random number. I was just trying to make my point about how too much is/will be expected from him. There's absolutely no way he'll win each slam twice, its just not possible in this day and age.

I know it was a random number. But he really said that. Kids dreaming of winning one GS is normal, but 8?
I don't think it's impossible by the way.

Agent X
05-17-2005, 12:29 AM
I know it was a random number. But he really said that. Kids dreaming of winning one GS is normal, but 8?
I don't think it's impossible by the way.

It's a bit silly for him to come out with lines like that. He's putting pressure on himself then. It's not impossible but it's not far off, I just can't see any player dominating that much on all surfaces. Maybe he'll prove me wrong though

Rosa Luxembourg
05-17-2005, 02:45 AM
I saw Pavel in CA in April. He is a very good junior IMO: hard working, focused, and a nice person. He trains at Bollitieri and I'm sure we'll hear a lot more about him very soon.

(ps. he is also quite cute)

Well done, Pavel! Keep going!

azza
05-17-2005, 04:11 AM
:haha: this kid wont be anything big :haha:

joeb_uk
05-17-2005, 06:39 PM
Now hes even getting his ass wiped all over the junior courts! He has been given a wc for another atp event lol, its pathetic! What is next for him, back to club tennis?

joeb_uk
05-17-2005, 06:40 PM
:haha: this kid wont be anything big :haha:
I bet you would bet your house on that too azza ;) ?

Fee
05-17-2005, 06:46 PM
Blame IMG for this. Yes, the same company that manages (or managed) Venus Williams is now completely screwing up Donald Young's life. I feel for this kid.

He's signed up for the RG Juniors. I think he wants to try for the Junior Slam this year, since he won AO in January. He lost in the QF of a Future two weeks ago. How about we stop the WC's and the hype until he actually gets a few ATP rankings points.

Kip
05-17-2005, 06:50 PM
Blame IMG for this. Yes, the same company that manages (or managed) Venus Williams is now completely screwing up Donald Young's life. I feel for this kid.

He's signed up for the RG Juniors. I think he wants to try for the Junior Slam this year, since he won AO in January. He lost in the QF of a Future two weeks ago. How about we stop the WC's and the hype until he actually gets a few ATP rankings points.

Not so fast though.

His parents and coaches could've
said no and made him wait and
develope properly.

People have said many things about Richard Williams but
so far as tennis, he has done right by his daughters.

Tennis Fool
05-17-2005, 06:58 PM
I started a DY thread in the Juniors forum about, what, a year-and-a-half ago? Even then, everyone said he was going to be the next Pete Sampras...

Anyway, I wouldn't put too much into these early losses.

Tennis Fool
05-17-2005, 06:59 PM
...And he's a lefty? JMac is one of the hypers...He loves the kid and mentions him all of the time.

Deboogle!.
05-17-2005, 07:02 PM
No such luck on the WildCard thing, he was ALREADY offered one into Indianapolis this July.

joeb_uk
05-17-2005, 07:06 PM
No such luck on the WildCard thing, he was ALREADY offered one into Indianapolis this July.
I know its harsh, but he would make more use of the card by wiping his ass with it. When are they going to stop giving them to this kid? :eek:

Tennis Fool
05-17-2005, 07:09 PM
JUK: Answer is never. He's in the same boat with Michelle Wie. Young superstars.

Anyway, DY himself seems grounded. Asked how he celebrated his AO Finals win, he said he did nothing. His parents went to the casinos and gambled and he sat outside waiting for them to come back :o

Anyway, interesting that Federer thinks the kid is off to a terrific start.

Deboogle!.
05-17-2005, 07:12 PM
I understand why he's offered wildcards - because people are intrigued by him and will go to see him, so from a tourney's perspective, he can help sell tickets, and they are going to give a WC to anyone who might help sell tickets. I'm going to the Los Angeles tourney in July and I imagine he'd get another WC there, too. And sure enough, I know I would make a point of seeing him, b/c of all the attention he's getting. I'm curious!

That's all good and well. Whether it's a good idea for HIM to keep *accepting* them, though, well that's entirely another story. Hopefully he knows what he's doing, that's all.

Fee
05-17-2005, 07:16 PM
He is NOT in the same boat as Michelle Wie, doesn't she actually win things?

joeb_uk
05-17-2005, 07:21 PM
I understand why he's offered wildcards - because people are intrigued by him and will go to see him, so from a tourney's perspective, he can help sell tickets, and they are going to give a WC to anyone who might help sell tickets. I'm going to the Los Angeles tourney in July and I imagine he'd get another WC there, too. And sure enough, I know I would make a point of seeing him, b/c of all the attention he's getting. I'm curious!

That's all good and well. Whether it's a good idea for HIM to keep *accepting* them, though, well that's entirely another story. Hopefully he knows what he's doing, that's all.
Do you think it will ruin his motivation when he is constantly getting drubbed in straight sets every time?

NATAS81
05-17-2005, 07:29 PM
No sweat. He'll win his share.

Deboogle!.
05-17-2005, 07:37 PM
Do you think it will ruin his motivation when he is constantly getting drubbed in straight sets every time?I don't know him or how he was raised or what he's like emotionally but I can't see how it'd be GOOD for his confidence. Hopefully it doesn't affect him adversely. But there's no way to really tell, you just have to hope that if he's really as talented as everyone is saying, that he'll realize that potential and that this stuff won't hinder him.

joeb_uk
05-17-2005, 07:41 PM
I don't know him or how he was raised or what he's like emotionally but I can't see how it'd be GOOD for his confidence. Hopefully it doesn't affect him adversely. But there's no way to really tell, you just have to hope that if he's really as talented as everyone is saying, that he'll realize that potential and that this stuff won't hinder him.
Of course it can help give him experience! but at the cost of confidence i suspect :(

smucav
05-17-2005, 07:55 PM
In case you missed it:

Professional Tennis at Age 15: Too Much to Young?
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showpost.php?p=1542352&postcount=6

Deboogle!.
05-17-2005, 07:57 PM
Of course it can help give him experience! but at the cost of confidence i suspect :(Yep, that's definitely possible. I was watching a show about him and Nicole Vaidisova on The Tennis channel a few days ago called "Phenoms" and they had all these people on talking about how great Donald is and how great his parents are and stuff - so hopefully he has a good support system behind him and he is seeing these losses more as learning experiences rather than beatdowns. For his sake, I hope so :awww:

joeb_uk
05-17-2005, 08:04 PM
Yep, that's definitely possible. I was watching a show about him and Nicole Vaidisova on The Tennis channel a few days ago called "Phenoms" and they had all these people on talking about how great Donald is and how great his parents are and stuff - so hopefully he has a good support system behind him and he is seeing these losses more as learning experiences rather than beatdowns. For his sake, I hope so :awww:
You know every sportsman/woman should want to play with/against players who are better than them, its just a shame that he is out of their league atm and cant really make a challenge.

Deboogle!.
05-17-2005, 08:08 PM
You know every sportsman/woman should want to play with/against players who are better than them, its just a shame that he is out of their league atm and cant really make a challenge.Yep, I agree completely.

joske
05-17-2005, 08:09 PM
:haha:

poor him tho :o

Space Cowgirl
05-17-2005, 08:13 PM
It's just damn crazy that he's been given a WC for Cincy. C'mon, playing against a top-50 guy, he'll be destroyed, poor kid. IMG must have given his parents a big wedge of cash and is demanding its pound of flesh in payment now :(

Nastase
05-17-2005, 08:15 PM
:haha:
another american that sucks on clay :devil:

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Kind of ARod's curse :devil:

MuleBoy
05-17-2005, 09:37 PM
There's no shame in losing to Pavel Chekhov...he's also young (still 16), but finished last year winning the European Junior Masters (16 & Under), and being ranked #2 in Europe in the Under 16s - I'm sure he's likely to be far more comfortable on clay too...