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Fed: strongest ranking in history?

In_Disguise
04-14-2005, 08:24 PM
As of today,

Rank Player Pts 5th
1 Federer 6,465 175

Is this the strongest points total since the ranking was introduced?

bad gambler
04-14-2005, 09:05 PM
calling NATAS81.....

NATAS81
04-14-2005, 10:15 PM
I have no idea. I'm an 04 and beyond guy.

I don't see anyone giving Federer problems this year though, so I'd say his ranking points are certain to climb in a positive gain for the year of 2005.

Seraphim
04-14-2005, 10:16 PM
I don't think so.

I think Hewitt, Agassi and Sampras had higher ranking points.

misyou25
04-14-2005, 10:19 PM
i hope hewitt was better :P

Daniel
04-14-2005, 10:51 PM
can someone confirm this please? :)

ca1houn
04-14-2005, 11:02 PM
I think Federer has had the highest since the ranking was introduced.

Agassi 1999 5048 he highest ever he won two grand slam that year

Hewitt 2001 4365 i think it was a little higher in 2002 but not by much maybe about 100 point more

sampras 1995 4842 1996 4865 1997 4547 1998 3915

these are all year end

Seraphim
04-14-2005, 11:16 PM
I think Federer has had the highest since the ranking was introduced.

Agassi 1999 5048 he highest ever he won two grand slam that year

Hewitt 2001 4365 i think it was a little higher in 2002 but not by much maybe about 100 point more

sampras 1995 4842 1996 4865 1997 4547 1998 3915

these are all year end

I stand corrected.

Daniel
04-14-2005, 11:20 PM
So, Congratulations Federer :bigclap: :aparty: :hug: :yeah: :banana:

Purple Rainbow
04-14-2005, 11:23 PM
From stevegtennis.com, after Rogi's US Open win:

6760!
That is Roger Federer's new point total. Without a doubt, the highest point total ever. Federer made it three grand slam victories in one year, taking the US Open with ease over Lleyton Hewitt in the final. Federer now opens up a cavernous lead over last year's champion Andy Roddick at #2. With his finals appearance, Hewitt rises 2 spots to take #3. Tim Henman, who reached the semifinals, losing to Federer, also picks up 2 spots and falls in at #4. Joachim Johansson announces his presence as a top player, reaching his first grand slam semifinal and rising 14 spots to #16. Tommy Haas also had a good run at this year's US Open and rises 13 spots to #32.

http://stevegtennis.com/rankings/2004/s091304.htm

Purple Rainbow
04-14-2005, 11:26 PM
At October 4th, after his Bangkok victory, Federer had the highest entry rank points total of his career. So far? An unprecedented 6875 points. :eek:

http://stevegtennis.com/rankings/2004/s100404.htm

Damn, you just gotta luv SteveG's site! Yeah

makro120
04-14-2005, 11:29 PM
If he wins Monte Carlo, will he beat it?

Domino
04-14-2005, 11:31 PM
By more than 500.

Rogiman
04-14-2005, 11:33 PM
If he wins Monte Carlo, will he beat it?

Scarcely, I think it'll be 6880.

Domino
04-14-2005, 11:34 PM
I stand corrected :p

makro120
04-14-2005, 11:38 PM
He has few points to defendthe coming weeks, after RG he will probably have +7000.

Rogiman
04-14-2005, 11:39 PM
He has few points to defendthe coming weeks, after RG he will probably have +7000.

He does have 500 points to defend in Hamburg though.

makro120
04-14-2005, 11:42 PM
He does have 500 points to defend in Hamburg though.

Yeah, but 1000 points to win in RG... ;)

Seleshfan
04-14-2005, 11:48 PM
Yeah, but 1000 points to win in RG... ;)


You crack me up. You're an eternal optimist.

Fedex
04-15-2005, 12:34 AM
i hope hewitt was better :P
lol, Hewitt wasn't even close when he was number one.

jtipson
04-15-2005, 10:15 AM
As of today,

Rank Player Pts 5th
1 Federer 6,465 175

Is this the strongest points total since the ranking was introduced?

No, it's not.

Under the previous system, nobody actually reached that number either, but rankings were calculated in a different way. Someone on another site re-calculated a couple of high ranking scores from the past according to the current rules. The highest in the last 15 years or so was Sampras after Wimbledon 1994, with an equivalent of 7150 - I need to check the original post and calculation to be sure. Agassi also had an equivalent of around 7000, probably after the AO 2000 when he held three GS and was runner up in the fourth.

Since 2000, when the the current ranking system was brought in, the highest has been Federer with 6875, after Bangkok last year.

If Federer wins Monte Carlo he'll achieve 7015 points on 25th April when his best fifth result gets added back in.

If he loses in the quarters today, he'll need to win Rome to get above 7K. A semi final in Monte Carlo would mean he only needs to reach the final in Rome, and vice versa. In any case, a win at Roland Garros would put him well over the mark. If he just defends his points in Rome (35) and Hamburg (500), a semi in Paris will suffice.

Probably too much information there but number crunchers like me like this sort of thing ;)

oz_boz
04-15-2005, 10:38 AM
No, it's not.

The highest in the last 15 years or so was Sampras after Wimbledon 1994, with an equivalent of 7150 - I need to check the original post and calculation to be sure.

Yeah, he was unbelievable at that time: champion of W, AO&USO + QF at RG; champ in IW and Key Biscane + champ in Rome (!); semifinalist in TMC.

Rogiman
04-15-2005, 10:45 AM
No, it's not.

Under the previous system, nobody actually reached that number either, but rankings were calculated in a different way. Someone on another site re-calculated a couple of high ranking scores from the past according to the current rules. The highest in the last 15 years or so was Sampras after Wimbledon 1994, with an equivalent of 7150 - I need to check the original post and calculation to be sure. Agassi also had an equivalent of around 7000, probably after the AO 2000 when he held three GS and was runner up in the fourth.

;)

Interesting, but I think you're wrong.

Not even Agassi's 99 season (including his 2000 AO title) was as dominant as Federer's 2004, if you consider all those extra AMS points and the smaller events he won, let alone the Masters Cup.
If you want we can recalculate it together:
GS: 3 GS's + 1 final = 3700 pts
TMS: Miami R64 + Rome R16 + Montreal SF + Cincinnati SF + Stuttgart SF + Paris W = 1255 pts
YEC: F = 500 pts
5 other best results: Washington W + L.A. F + Hong Kong W + Scottsdale SF + Basel QF = 620 pts

All comes to a total of: 6075 pts

Rogiman
04-15-2005, 10:56 AM
^
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That was Agassi's 99, in case I wasn't clear.

jtipson
04-15-2005, 11:15 AM
^
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That was Agassi's 99, in case I wasn't clear.


Yes, I'd agree, that sounds right to me. I'll have to try and find the original calculations for the Sampras one then.

jtipson
04-15-2005, 11:36 AM
Have a look at this thread from rec.sport.tennis:
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?hl=en&lr=&threadm=ci4uuf%24vjc%241%40news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl&rnum=7&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26scoring%3Dd%26q%3DWimbl edon%2B1994%2Bpoints%26meta%3Dgroup%253Drec.sport. tennis

Sampras 6930 after Wimbledon 1994 (although I'm sure I've seen the same poster recalculate that it was over 7K); Agassi 6660 *before USO 1995*.

So if this is correct, Federer has already overtaken Agassi, and has a reasonable chance to beat Sampras' score too.

tennischick
04-15-2005, 02:15 PM
what would the world be without you numbers crunchers ;) i refuse to even begin to try to understand this stuff. you guys figure it out and tell me when to prostrate myself before the King in awe. ;)