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All Praise to Jean René Lisnard: what do you think?

FrogBurger
04-13-2005, 10:32 AM
Lisnard is playing very good tennis it appears. I wonder if he is getting the respect he deserves though. I dont want to get into detail, but im wondering how much competition and resentment there is on the tour? He said after beating Thomas Johanson "Jai des oreilles, je sais que cette wild-card en a dérangé quelques-un, mais je nai pas limpression d'avoir volé la place ŕ qui que ce soi". which means, "I have ears, i know that my getting a wildcard bothered some people, but i dont have the impression of having stolen the place from anyone". this was from 20minutes, a free french daily paper.

No tell me this, who could complain about Lisnard? He has earned his place, he is an excellent player and apparently getting better. Im sure hes climbeb in the rankings.. any ideas about this?

Action Jackson
04-13-2005, 10:33 AM
Martijn otherwise known as Coo on this board is a huge Lisnard fan.

NATAS81
04-13-2005, 10:58 AM
He's gonna have to shake off this huge loss today to ALBERTO baby!

He got Shaken, Baken, Awaken, and Taken down-town to Chinatown!!!

Deivid23
04-13-2005, 06:03 PM
For me Lisnard is a better player than López without his serve would ever be

uNIVERSE mAN
04-13-2005, 07:41 PM
lisnard plays 95% satellites.

jole
04-14-2005, 03:27 AM
Lisnard is very frog like. Funny that Frogburger started this thread.

DanEd
04-14-2005, 03:33 AM
mediocre player. not good at all

Scotso
04-14-2005, 03:48 AM
mediocre player. not good at all

Yes, because any old idiot player can make the third round of a slam.

DanEd
04-14-2005, 03:50 AM
Yes, because any old idiot player can make the third round of a slam.

Sorry. he is not so good but no mediocre.

Deivid23
04-14-2005, 06:11 AM
Now talking seriously, I think he´s a very weak player.

Tennis Fool
04-14-2005, 06:33 AM
Wasn't he almost beaten by a 15 year old Donald Young just recently :scratch:

SwissMister1
04-14-2005, 03:49 PM
Plenty of not highly ranked/regarded players have made the third round of grand slams - Reid, Mutis, Jeanpierre, Peya, Luczak, Coutelot, Savolt, Gimelstob, Moodie, Carraz, Pless, Gaudenzi, Vacek, and Knowle all have in the last couple of years.

virex
04-14-2005, 06:51 PM
mutis will always be in my heart.. after he beat the duck in RG

SwissMister1
04-14-2005, 07:45 PM
mutis will always be in my heart.. after he beat the duck in RG

And he has cool eyebrows. Maybe I shouldn't have said he was not highly regarded.

CooCooCachoo
04-14-2005, 07:56 PM
Martijn otherwise known as Coo on this board is a huge Lisnard fan.

:inlove:

Lisnard is the most hideous person on Tour. He hasn't had bad results this year, but he's only slightly above the level of journeymen in general, and he might even have deserved the wild card as a player, but as a person it's horrible for the fans to give it to him.

CooCooCachoo
04-14-2005, 07:57 PM
Plenty of not highly ranked/regarded players have made the third round of grand slams - Reid, Mutis, Jeanpierre, Peya, Luczak, Coutelot, Savolt, Gimelstob, Moodie, Carraz, Pless, Gaudenzi, Vacek, and Knowle all have in the last couple of years.

This is not a very fair statement to make, regarding the injuries that have seriously hindered certain players' results (Vacek, Pless, Savolt).

CooCooCachoo
04-14-2005, 07:59 PM
lisnard plays 95% satellites.

You are showing your great knowledge of tennis once more.

CooCooCachoo
04-14-2005, 08:00 PM
Wasn't he almost beaten by a 15 year old Donald Young just recently :scratch:

He actually beat Young in straight sets, but I think Young blew a lead in the first set. Not sure though.

Marine
04-14-2005, 08:10 PM
Well, I don't like him.

uNIVERSE mAN
04-14-2005, 08:42 PM
You are showing your great knowledge of tennis once more.

really? turned pro in 97, career atp wins = 33; a bit of arithmetic and that's what? average of 4 wins/yr, so he must be playing mostly satellite's in his career.

jole
04-14-2005, 08:45 PM
Australian Open, Australia
Grand Slam, 1/17/2005, O, Hard , Draw: 128


R128

Marach, Oliver (AUT )

0

5-7 5-7 6-1 6-4 7-5
R64

Grosjean, Sebastien (FRA )

21

1-6 4-6 6-3 6-4 6-3
R32

Kohlschreiber, Philipp (GER )

60

5-7 3-6 2-6
This Event Points: 18, New Indesit ATP Race Position: 47, Prize Money: US $ 35145

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At this point I find myself asking, "he made 35k before taxes for that?!".

SwissMister1
04-14-2005, 10:15 PM
This is not a very fair statement to make, regarding the injuries that have seriously hindered certain players' results (Vacek, Pless, Savolt).

That's true, and Pless did knock off Guga. So I'll lay off of Kristian. And poor Vacek has always had to deal with his ugly looks, so he's excused as well. And Attila Savolt is also a cool name.

DanEd
04-14-2005, 11:15 PM
He actually beat Young in straight sets, but I think Young blew a lead in the first set. Not sure though.

Young was a break up in the first set.

NATAS81
04-14-2005, 11:18 PM
I think Llodra, Escude, Santoro, Gasquet and Monfils are France's best hopes at a clay title contender.

Two of those aren't even in match form as of now.

Scotso
04-15-2005, 03:27 AM
Please, Lisnard is miles better than Escude and Santoro on clay, maybe even Llodra. And Monfils has yet to do much on it.

CooCooCachoo
04-15-2005, 08:51 AM
really? turned pro in 97, career atp wins = 33; a bit of arithmetic and that's what? average of 4 wins/yr, so he must be playing mostly satellite's in his career.

And yet he has this ranking. By playing Satellites? You need to understand there's two levels of tournaments between regular ATP events and Satellites. It's true that Lisnard often plays Challengers, but I don't think he entered a Satellite in a long long time.

uNIVERSE mAN
04-15-2005, 01:45 PM
And yet he has this ranking. By playing Satellites? You need to understand there's two levels of tournaments between regular ATP events and Satellites. It's true that Lisnard often plays Challengers, but I don't think he entered a Satellite in a long long time.

FFS! I meant Challenger's goddamnit!

CooCooCachoo
04-15-2005, 03:00 PM
FFS! I meant Challenger's goddamnit!

Huge difference ;)

For your information, Lisnard has only played two Challengers this year. One in his home country, and the other in Sunrise, which was the second week of Indian Wells, where he had already lost. Both were pretty big Challengers.

He played more ATP level events or higher than he played Challengers.