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The "Andy says, 'I have no excuses this year if I don't do well.'" RG thread

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Deboogle!.
04-02-2005, 08:12 PM
Thought it was good to start this now, help Andy pick up some steam to have a decent clay season, and maybe have a thread for the whole season to try to vicariously help Andy pick up some momentum :p :cool:

Here's his schedule as of now

4/7 - exhibition against Mardy in Houston at the River Oaks event
4/18 - USMCC in Houston (oh boy I'm hoping he stays in houston that whole time and works on the red clay there but that might be overly-wishful thinking on my part :o)
5/2 - Rome (please, let's hope lightning doesn't strike twice!)
5/9 - Hamburg - slowest of the clay tournies but Andy proved he CAN play on slow clay in DC
5/23 - RG - Can Andy win 2 matches here? :o And let's lay off the supreme pizzas the night before our first round match, mmmmkay?

C'mon Andy.... Clay is FUN! :bounce:

Golfnduck
04-02-2005, 08:15 PM
LET'S GO ANDY!!!! BE A DIRTBALLER!!!! Just slide...it's FUN!!!!

blosson
04-02-2005, 08:25 PM
Time to win that silver basin again!

PinkFeatherBoa
04-02-2005, 08:26 PM
Lol, I used to love modelling clay like that.

Enjoy the clay season Andy :banana:. Also, remember I'm not at RG until the Sat/Sun, so you must win at least twice. :p Please take the clay seriously for a change.

aceit
04-02-2005, 08:35 PM
Clay is fun. Especially for Andy! Woooo. :aparty:

Also, remember I'm not at RG until the Sat/Sun, so you must win at least twice. :p Please take the clay seriously for a change.
Now he'll win just for the purpose of you being able to see him. ;)

Havok
04-02-2005, 08:35 PM
Please play like you care this year on the clay!

Jennay
04-02-2005, 08:37 PM
Clay kicks so much ASS. :rocker2: If Andy decides not to show up, I'll be sure to take over his duties.

Get decent results. :bounce:

Black Adam
04-02-2005, 08:44 PM
Do your best on Clay Andy............need to win as many points as possible before Grass and Hardcourt run ;)

blosson
04-02-2005, 08:52 PM
This is a quote from Andy, RG 2001, just after having to retire when playing against Hewitt:

"I wanted to make someone play well to beat me."

Don't forget Andy, you said that!

Tytta!.
04-02-2005, 08:54 PM
Go Andy! :)

Deboogle!.
04-02-2005, 09:16 PM
This is what Andy said last year after he lost in Rome.... cmon Andy get over the hump, prove you can do it :bounce:

"It's weird because usually I feel really good on clay. It's just when I have an off-day, I feel really bad. Obviously, it's not my first surface, but, you know, I've had good results. I've won four tournaments on it; semi, like you said, here at the Masters Series event. My first year on Tour I probably played better on clay than I did on hard. I think it's just a matter of getting matches under my belt on clay. It's getting over that first hump."

andyroxmysox12191
04-02-2005, 09:36 PM
Cmon Andy! Don't let us and yourself down :banana:

Devotee
04-02-2005, 09:37 PM
5/23 - RG - Can Andy win 2 matches here? :o And let's lay off the supreme pizzas the night before our first round match, mmmmkay?

C'mon Andy.... Clay is FUN! :bounce:

Even Sampras managed to get to the semifinal at Roland Garros.
Stefan Edberg got to the final.
Hey, didn't Boris Becker (who never ever won a clay court tournament) get to
the semifinal?

:tennis:

Deboogle!.
04-02-2005, 09:48 PM
Hey, didn't Boris Becker (who never ever won a clay court tournament) get to
the semifinal?

:tennis:

Twice. 1989 and 1991 (incidentally, lost in 1st round in 1990 in between :lol: )

But he skipped it a lot and lost early most of the other times.

But, your point is well-taken ;)

MisterQ
04-02-2005, 09:52 PM
Even Sampras managed to get to the semifinal at Roland Garros.
Stefan Edberg got to the final.
Hey, didn't Boris Becker (who never ever won a clay court tournament) get to
the semifinal?

:tennis:

Becker got to the RG semis three times.

McEnroe is another player with a fast-court game who made the finals, and almost won. ( :sad: )

Roddick may not be the best at point construction, but at his best, he does have an instinct to fight for every ball and grind out matches. From what I understand, when he was younger and didn't have the big serve he was used to having to work hard to win points. So I hope that he will have greater success on clay this year. No, he's no Coria/Ferrero, but he can do much better than he has recently.

Deboogle!.
04-02-2005, 09:54 PM
i love when you pull random knowledge out of your ass deb. d:

I didn't know that tenniscorner.net resided in my ass :eek: And actually it seems I can't read it anyway. Q is right, it was 1987, 1989, 1991.

I hope so, Q, I hope so... hence my creating this thread :bounce:

blosson
04-02-2005, 09:54 PM
every time i see you av, it reminds me of tha hilarious JCF diary... he

"JC + Andy 4EVA!"

andyroxmysox12191
04-02-2005, 09:56 PM
Everything resides in your ass....even though that's scary

roisin
04-02-2005, 09:56 PM
"JC + Andy 4EVA!"
as it should be :rolls:

Deboogle!.
04-02-2005, 09:58 PM
Everything resides in your ass....even though that's scary

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :scared:

MisterQ
04-02-2005, 09:59 PM
ahem, Deb, if tenniscorner.net resides in your ass, could you kindly remove all of those pop-up ads? :angel:

Deboogle!.
04-02-2005, 10:00 PM
ahem, Deb, if tenniscorner.net resides in your ass, could you kindly remove all of those pop-up ads? :angel:

:spit: :haha: :haha: :haha:

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 08:17 PM
:lol:

but seriously, yeah Andy better make something happen this clay season...:o

blosson
04-03-2005, 08:27 PM
One thing is certain, he will fall a lot...

smucav
04-03-2005, 09:02 PM
Here are the number of entry points the top ten players are defending in the four required clay events (Monte-Carlo, Rome, Hamburg, Roland Garros).

1. Federer 610
2. Hewitt 585
3. Roddick 40
4. Safin 525
5. Henman 685
6. Gaudio 1045
7. Moya 1100
8. Nalbandian 930
9. Agassi 5
10. Coria 1550

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 09:06 PM
Please, Andy. don't fuck it up. PLEASE.

CLAY IS FUNNNNNNNNNNNN, repeat after me YOU LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT.

Watch him draw someone like JCF first round at one of the big tournies. :unsure: He definitely needs to pray to the draw gods.

smucav
04-03-2005, 09:11 PM
Watch him draw someone like JCF first round at one of the big tournies. :unsure:Ferrero didn't make the cut-off for direct entry in Rome or Hamburg. He will have to get a wild card or play qualifying. Plenty of other good dirtballers in those fields though.

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 09:12 PM
I can't imagine that he won't get a wildcard to at least one of them. And he'll get direct entry to RG, so watch, andy will draw him there :lol:

J. Corwin
04-03-2005, 09:17 PM
All I have to say is, if he's gonna play Houston, he better win it. :fiery: No more excuses this time about playing too many tournaments in a row like last year.

J. Corwin
04-03-2005, 09:22 PM
Here are the number of entry points the top ten players are defending in the four required clay events (Monte-Carlo, Rome, Hamburg, Roland Garros).

1. Federer 610
2. Hewitt 585
3. Roddick 40
4. Safin 525
5. Henman 685
6. Gaudio 1045
7. Moya 1100
8. Nalbandian 930
9. Agassi 5
10. Coria 1550

Americans rule :banana: I am awaiting a Roddick v. Agassi RG final. :angel:

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 09:26 PM
hahahhaha

smucav
04-03-2005, 09:27 PM
I can't imagine that he won't get a wildcard to at least one of them.There's been some debate about this in the tournament forums, but I just looked at the drawsheets for the last five years (2000-2004) & all of the WCs have gone to Italians & Germans respectively. Unlike the U.S. & France, those are the only big events in those two countries & the organizers tend to give their countrymen an advantage to earn points/money the only way they are able to.Americans rule :banana: I am awaiting a Roddick v. Agassi RG final. :angel:1991: (9)Jim Courier d. (4)Andre Agassi 36 64 26 61 64

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 09:33 PM
he WON Rome in 2001... that would be a major slap in his face if he weren't given a WC. But he hasn't played Hamburg in a couple years and he didn't play Rome last year, so the tourneys can do whatever they want. His form at Miami was encouraging, however, and if he keeps that up on clay, he should be able to qualify for all of them.

tangerine_dream
04-03-2005, 09:35 PM
Andy doesn't have to draw JCF to get dumped out in the early rounds, he can just draw a Mutis. :lol:

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 09:39 PM
:lol: Yes, that's a given. There are a bajillion players in the top 100 who could take out Andy in the first round of a clay tournament.... Rafa needs to win a few matches at Monte Carlo so that he can get his ranking inside the top 16 so that Andy can't get HIM in the first round :rolls:

Maybe Lord Carlos will show some sympathy for Andy and give him manageable draws...

J. Corwin
04-03-2005, 09:42 PM
*prays to LC for Andy to draw a Mardy or Robby in the first round* I am mean...

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 09:42 PM
:secret: or Malisse or Srichaphan or Dent

*and to be seeded to meet Robredo*

:lol:

blosson
04-03-2005, 10:01 PM
Well, Andy has good chances in Houston, right? Although I heard Massu will be there...

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 10:02 PM
He's made 4 consecutive finals... in fact, he's never lost in Houston before the final :lol:

I saw him dismantle Horna there last year, who is a very good clay-courter. Yeah, he has good chances to do well. He just has to get a few wins in to get his clay feet going.

smucav
04-03-2005, 10:05 PM
:lol: Yes, that's a given. There are a bajillion players in the top 100 who could take out Andy in the first round of a clay tournament.... Rafa needs to win a few matches at Monte Carlo so that he can get his ranking inside the top 16 so that Andy can't get HIM in the first round :rolls:

Maybe Lord Carlos will show some sympathy for Andy and give him manageable draws...Nadal will be #17 (overall tied w. Massu, but winning the tiebreaker) on Monday. The players right above him (Davydenko & Haas) have points to defend in Monte-Carlo (plus Haas's Houston win). Their results (or lack of them) in the next three weeks combined with Hewitt's likely withdrawal from Rome & Nadal's own results should make him the #15 or #16 seed at least by Rome & Hamburg. Nadal has nothing to defend since he got injured during Estoril last year & didn't play again until after Wimbledon. He's supposed to play Ferrero in the first round of Valencia on Wednesday, but he may be tired from playing singles & doubles in Miami.

blosson
04-03-2005, 10:05 PM
I supose, he go like 35 points in Houston and 1 point in each of the other tourneys.

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 10:09 PM
Nadal will be #17 (overall tied w. Massu, but winning the tiebreaker) on Monday. The players right above him (Davydenko & Haas) have points to defend in Monte-Carlo (plus Haas's Houston win). Their results (or lack of them) in the next three weeks combined with Hewitt's likely withdrawal from Rome & Nadal's own results should make him the #15 or #16 seed at least by Rome & Hamburg. He's supposed to play Ferrero in the first round of Valencia on Wednesday, but he may be tired from playing singles & doubles in Miami.

I was mostly being sarcastic. Hence my laughing smilies. No need to take everything so seriously:)

Breakaway
04-03-2005, 10:09 PM
Good Luck Andy, let's show everyone how good you really are even on clay! :bounce:

smucav
04-03-2005, 10:12 PM
I was mostly being sarcastic. Hence my laughing smilies. No need to take everything so seriously:)I'm an economist, I take everything to do with numbers very seriously.

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 10:15 PM
Well this is tennis, it's supposed to be fun. :) and surely, even in economy and numbers, there is room for jokes. I've watched CNBC, those guys can be funny :lol:. My dad was an economist, he has a great sense of humor.

blosson
04-03-2005, 10:15 PM
That explains why you always have the stats smucav. :)

Breakaway
04-03-2005, 10:18 PM
Anyone want to make predictions on how far Andy will go at Roland Garros? ;)


I think he will have a good clay-court season then get at least to the Semi's at Roland Garros! :)

Andy slip side your way on the red stuff!

Jennay
04-03-2005, 10:19 PM
Anyone want to make predictions on how far Andy will go at Roland Garros? ;)
JYNX!

PinkFeatherBoa
04-03-2005, 10:29 PM
I think he will have a good clay-court season then get at least to the Semi's at Roland Garros! :)

Andy slip side your way on the red stuff!

Semis :scared:, I'll be relieved if he makes the 3rd round, just so he's still in Paris when I get there. I think a realistic target at this stage would be the 4th round, depending on the draw. Don't want to jinx or anything though.

smucav
04-03-2005, 10:30 PM
Anyone want to make predictions on how far Andy will go at Roland Garros? ;) I think he will have a good clay-court season then get at least to the Semi's at Roland Garros! :) Andy slip side your way on the red stuff! I don't like to make predictions, but I think with good draws he could very well win three matches. Then he will run up against one of the lower seeded dirtballers & have a 50/50 chance: he could win & make it to the quarters. He would then face one of the better dirtballers & probably wouldn't win barring a major choke or injury from his opponent.

There are always upsets & openings in the draw (who would have predicted Henman to make it to the 2004 SFs?), but it would take a confluence of several such factors for Andy to make it to the SFs or Finals. I continue to hold out hope since he had several good results on clay in 2001-2002 (including the SF of Rome) when he was much more of a one dimensional player. If Andy plays the way he did in the DC final (v. the #3 & #6 clay players nonetheless), he could really go far. Only time will tell.

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 10:34 PM
ahhhhhhh.... holding out hope.... the Andy fan's mantra during clay season. :lol:

Let's all join together around a campfire and sing kum-ba-ya and do a dance to Lord Carlos for help. Maybe we should sacrifice something in the fire... what do you guys suggest?

Wait a second.... smucav, you're an economist and don't like to make predictions? :scratch: :p

am&a
04-03-2005, 10:39 PM
Maybe we should sacrifice something in the fire... what do you guys suggest?play-doh. d:

MisterQ
04-03-2005, 10:43 PM
I'm an economist, I take everything to do with numbers very seriously.

I used to play tennis with an economist, and she was very serious. I remember when she first cracked a joke. I was so impressed! ;) (It was about three weeks after I first met her).

blosson
04-03-2005, 10:44 PM
Let's all join together around a campfire and sing kum-ba-ya and do a dance to Lord Carlos for help. Maybe we should sacrifice something in the fire... what do you guys suggest?


Andy's white horrible sunglasses, they can go. Considering they are kind of ugly it might not bring that much luck. What about Mardy Fish?

MisterQ
04-03-2005, 10:49 PM
Anyone want to make predictions on how far Andy will go at Roland Garros? ;)


I think he will have a good clay-court season then get at least to the Semi's at Roland Garros! :)

Andy slip side your way on the red stuff!

Round of 16 is mine

andyroxmysox12191
04-03-2005, 11:04 PM
How about a potato?

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 11:13 PM
Some cheese?

am&a
04-03-2005, 11:15 PM
pizza.

am&a
04-03-2005, 11:15 PM
but then he might eat it, so never mind. d:

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 11:21 PM
LOL.

haha I just noticed the mary quote in your sig....when I heard her say that I seriously laughed out loud and thought of you for some reason lmao.

am&a
04-03-2005, 11:25 PM
haha I just noticed the mary quote in your sig....when I heard her say that I seriously laughed out loud and thought of you for some reason lmao.HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! that's seriously the second best thing i've heard all day. the first being the quote. d:

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 11:27 PM
lmao....like I was seriously gonna call you but then I realized my mom and sister took my cell phone with them and yeah. lol

BTW I really don't like some people now.

am&a
04-03-2005, 11:33 PM
i'm mad at some people.

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 11:36 PM
Good. Some people deserve it.


aww...I have less than 20 minutes before I have to go return the computer....*tear*

am&a
04-03-2005, 11:39 PM
no. i'm not going to do it as much as i otherwise would so i don't annoy other posters. but you know the drill. no.

nkhera1
04-03-2005, 11:39 PM
It amazes me that roddick can still be in the top 3 with the amount of points he accumulates from Clay. This year he is going to need to do better on Clay to make up for the points lost in the Nasdaq 100 Masters Series.

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 11:41 PM
In 2003, he had almost no points from Miami and almost no points from clay... we remember what happened in 2003. ;)

But yeah, seriously, you're right. Come ON Andy. Time to step up.

I still don't know who your "some people" is Amanda and Danielle, but the more general connotation of some people is really pissing me off too.

superpinkone37
04-03-2005, 11:55 PM
Don't worry, I am pretty sure you don't like some people Deb....but yeah.

And Amanda, I guess its good you're not on msn cuz then I would have to deal with a lot more no's. But...it's time. Byeeeee :sad:

Deboogle!.
04-03-2005, 11:56 PM
that may be true, LOL

I'm just saying that in the normal sense...... some people really need to go away.

:sad: we'll miss youuuuuuuuuu

andyroxmysox12191
04-04-2005, 01:54 AM
*hours late* byeeee danielle! :kiss:

smucav
04-04-2005, 02:30 AM
Wait a second.... smucav, you're an economist and don't like to make predictions? :scratch: :pEconomists have correctly predicted 9 out of the last 5 recessions. Enough said. :)

Breakaway
04-04-2005, 02:30 AM
*no jinxes* on my post earlier. :p

Maybe Andy should try Llodra's trick and go naked in Federer's locker. :confused: :eek: ;)


J/K!

Deboogle!.
04-04-2005, 02:33 AM
Economists have correctly predicted 9 out of the last 5 recessions. Enough said. :)

I didn't say economists were RIGHT, just that they *like* to predict ;)

smucav
04-04-2005, 02:48 AM
I didn't say economists were RIGHT, just that they *like* to predict ;)Here's my prediction (applicable to everything in life):

If something cannot go on forever, it will end. (Stein's law)

am&a
04-04-2005, 02:52 AM
that's deep. d:

Deboogle!.
04-04-2005, 03:04 AM
*whistles* I'm going to go watch Andy's match against Michael Chang to remind myself what Andy looks like when he has desire to win on clay :angel:

snaillyyy
04-04-2005, 04:53 PM
Ok I couldnt decide where to put this, but since we want happy times for clay season, and he seems happy in this post, I thought here was as good a place as any :p

A Message From Andy!
By Andy Roddick
2005-04-03
hey all!!!

just thought i would take the time and keep u guys up to date on what i have been doing. i left miami for texas as soon as i go lost there. it is always tough for me to be near a tourney when i am not in it anymore. it drives me crazy ha! i spent a couple of relaxing days in austin with my wrist immobilized. it was tough, because i get bored very easily. i was able to start off-court workouts about 5 days ago and they have been going great! my legs are so sore when i wake up everyday, but that is how i know i have put in some good work..... besides that, i have just been hanging with friends. it is really great, because we don't get to see each other very much. it is very odd that i have have more than a couple of days at home, so almost 3 weeks is amazing! i have been out a couple of times to see some awesome live music here in austin. one of the very cool things about austin is that u can walk around downtown any night of the week and hear some great singers just playing in bars...... very very cool. also, i have been lucky enough to get out on my boat a little bit. the weather has been amazing, so we have been taking full advantage. ..... as far as the wrist goes, i am very happy with my progress. it is nice being able to heal an injury without a tournament right around the corner. i have definitely had enough time to let it heal properly. i am gonna go try to hit a couple of balls today, and see how it feels but i have no doubts that it will be just fine..... i don't really get excited about my own tv stuff that often, but i am kind of excited to see punk'd tonight. my friends were in LA with me and did a great job of keeping it a secret. i couldn't believe that i got punk'd!!! damn you ashton! the show must be going downhill if they couldn't get anyone better to punk than me hahaha!!

anyways, i hope everyone is all good and i will be back out there in no time!

andy

Deboogle!.
04-04-2005, 05:32 PM
It was already posted in the "Good news" thread :p my diatribe about his writing style is there :haha:

fangirl
04-04-2005, 06:14 PM
I might have to volunteer myself to be Andy's English tutor. Granted, he wouldn't learn much other then how to convey high levels of sarcasm into his writing and make very annoying run on setences, but I do feel I could at least point him in the write direction in regards to using capital letters.

admittedly sometimes i do the whole no capitals and no puncuation thing when i am trying to pretend i am cool even though it doesn't look cool it just makes me look like a jackass.

surfpinky
04-04-2005, 06:27 PM
i sometimes do the no capitalization thing also, but i use propper grammar. heck, i'm doing it right now :retard:

fangirl
04-04-2005, 06:33 PM
I don't hate Clay season as much as I pretend to do. It is because it is at this time of the year I am most pissed off with Andy and thinking of all sorts of ways to punish him, such as making him model undies with a sock in them or ripping all the 'Pizza' pages from the phone book.

It makes me giggle while I am stuck writing long essays on the history of public relations. Any takers?

surfpinky
04-04-2005, 06:38 PM
I just don't understand why andy is so horrible during clay season....and clay season is not a long season.... :scratch:

Deboogle!.
04-04-2005, 07:23 PM
I just don't understand why andy is so horrible during clay season....and clay season is not a long season.... :scratch:

b/c he doesn't like it... I'm not sure there's that much better of an explanation than that. lol. It's tougher for his game than the other surfaces and he gets himself into a mental rut on it.

snaillyyy
04-04-2005, 07:42 PM
It was already posted in the "Good news" thread :p my diatribe about his writing style is there :haha:
Ooops you would think that by now I would have learned to read everything when I am gone before I post :o , and love the commentary Deb :lol:

smucav
04-05-2005, 04:00 PM
Probably the biggest first round nightmare opponent for any seeded player the next two months is Guga. His injury protected ranking starts in Rome so he'll definitely be in all the tournaments, but given his current ranking of 87, he would probably have to get to the finals of all three AMS events (& hope some of the players in the low 20s lose points) to be seeded by Roland Garros.

Deboogle!.
04-05-2005, 04:05 PM
It remains to be seen if Guga's really back to top form, I don't think one good match against someone who's not that good on clay is enough to judge upon (though, I really hope he is!!!!!). I think he and JCF are about as equally as dangerous - any former champion of that surface's Grand Slam who is not seeded but getting back into good form would be a dreaded match.

And knowing Andy's luck, he'll get one of them in the first round of one of these tournaments :rolls:

Tytta!.
04-05-2005, 04:33 PM
He really really REALLY better not face Guga :sad: Or I die... :awww:

Deboogle!.
04-05-2005, 04:36 PM
He really really REALLY better not face Guga :sad: Or I die... :awww:

:hug: I'm sure Lord Carlos won't let this happen!

Tytta!.
04-05-2005, 04:41 PM
I'm already praying :awww: :sad:

blosson
04-05-2005, 04:55 PM
He really really REALLY better not face Guga :sad: Or I die... :awww:

I know it's hard when you like both players but I actually want to see Andy playing Guga as I have never seen them playing before. The good thing is that one of your favourites will go through just like when Guga played Olly :)

Deboogle!.
04-05-2005, 04:57 PM
Let them play each other on hardcourt... Andy really needs to win on clay :lol: Plus, I'd rather not see Andy bageled anytime soon.

blosson
04-05-2005, 05:00 PM
It would be nice to see Guga playing Roger in the first round at RG. I know Roger might want some revenge but I'm sure Guga wants to take the number 1 down too. It would be a good match.

tangerine_dream
04-05-2005, 05:05 PM
I must be the only person who's unconcerned by Andy's clay performance. He'll do well at Houston again, I'm sure. :yeah: In Europe, the only thing I'd like to see is Andy going at least one better at RG and make it to the third round.

Tytta!.
04-05-2005, 05:11 PM
Blosson, I'd love both Andy and Guga to win in the first round :awww: So please, Carlos, listen to my prayers :awww:

Deboogle!.
04-05-2005, 05:13 PM
I guess you are, tangy :lol:

That's just not good enough for me. I know he's better than what he has shown since 2002. I know he can do well at Rome, where he actually says he PREFERS the speed of the clay to Houston. I just know he is capable, and I know he knows it too, he just has to really believe in himself and he can win a few matches at ALL these tourneys.

It's just time for him to step up - he's too good to be laughed at for not performing well on clay. If players like Henman can make the SF at RG, I know Andy can, too. He just has to WANT to and really set his mind to it. And that's sort of what's disappointing about the whole thing. If he tried his hardest and really set his mind to do well on clay like he did last December at DC, he'd have much better results.

That's why losing early is not good enough. If it's the best you can do, that's one thing, but it's NOT the best he can do, so he shouldn't accept any less. And to this point, he is accepting less.

smucav
04-05-2005, 06:00 PM
Let them play each other on hardcourt...They played two weeks in a row in 2001 (when Guga was #1 & Andy was #34/#35) & split matches.

Roddick-Kuerten Head-to-Head: 1-1
2001 Cincinnati TMS, Hard, R64 Kuerten 67 16
2001 Montreal TMS, Hard, R16 Roddick 67 64 62

The victory in Montreal was the last time a teenager beat a #1 until Nadal d. Federer in Miami 2004.

tangerine_dream
04-05-2005, 06:41 PM
I guess you are, tangy :lol:

That's just not good enough for me. I know he's better than what he has shown since 2002. I know he can do well at Rome, where he actually says he PREFERS the speed of the clay to Houston. I just know he is capable, and I know he knows it too, he just has to really believe in himself and he can win a few matches at ALL these tourneys.

It's just time for him to step up - he's too good to be laughed at for not performing well on clay. If players like Henman can make the SF at RG, I know Andy can, too. He just has to WANT to and really set his mind to it. And that's sort of what's disappointing about the whole thing. If he tried his hardest and really set his mind to do well on clay like he did last December at DC, he'd have much better results.

That's why losing early is not good enough. If it's the best you can do, that's one thing, but it's NOT the best he can do, so he shouldn't accept any less. And to this point, he is accepting less.

The only ones "laughing" at Andy are the clay snobs who actually think Wimbledon isn't a prestigous tournament. :rolleyes: I don't care what they think. Andy is perfectly capable of playing on clay as he proved to himself at DC and he's won titles on "real" clay, too. But like Marat, he has convinced himself that he's no good on a certain surface. Yes, I believe Andy can go further at these clay tournaments, but I won't freak out and get mad if he crashes and burns again. I just want him to keep improving his game, get his confidence back and tear up the summer hardcourts again. ;)

Deboogle!.
04-05-2005, 07:32 PM
They played two weeks in a row in 2001 (when Guga was #1 & Andy was #34/#35) & split matches.

Roddick-Kuerten Head-to-Head: 1-1
2001 Cincinnati TMS, Hard, R64 Kuerten 67 16
2001 Montreal TMS, Hard, R16 Roddick 67 64 62

The victory in Montreal was the last time a teenager beat a #1 until Nadal d. Federer in Miami 2004.

I know. That wasn't my point in posting what I did. My point was that Andy can take a loss on HC, and that I don't want him to take another one on clay, so I would appreciate that if he has to draw Guga, I'd rather it be on HC and not clay.

partygirl
04-06-2005, 03:30 PM
does anyone know if the houston claycourt champs will be televised...i hope so ;)

Deboogle!.
04-06-2005, 03:42 PM
only on the Tennis Channel :sad:

Welcome to the board! :wavey:

Iheartandy&roger
04-06-2005, 11:19 PM
oh boy good luck to Andy!!

MisterQ
04-07-2005, 02:00 AM
Guga is so spectacular on clay, I can't wait to see him again! :dance:

Andy is so unspectacular on clay, that could be fun too. :lol: grind it out, baby ;)

Deboogle!.
04-07-2005, 05:06 AM
Andy is so unspectacular on clay, that could be fun too. :lol: grind it out, baby ;)

:haha: too good, Q!

Well Andy and Mardy's exho match is officially on the River Oaks Schedule tomorrow - 7:30pm Central Time. Oh boy....and an article from AR.com (just ignore all the factual errors LMAO)
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River Oakes Exhibition
By Genna Revitz
2005-04-07
As part of his preparation for the clay court season, Andy is teaming up with fellow Davis Cup teammate and high-school friend, Mardy Fish, to plant their feet in the dirt early! The two pals are participating in an exhibition match at the River Oaks Country Club in Houston on Thursday, April 7. The event is a prelude to the U.S. Men’s Clay Court Championships, which begins April 22 at the West Side Tennis Club in Houston.

Both Andy and Mardy have been successful at the Claycourts. Mardy won the doubles title with James Blake in 2004 while Andy has won the singles title in 2001 and 2002. Both Andy and Mardy have entered this year’s competition.

The River Oaks exhibition begins at 7 (CST) and will be a best of three sets tiebreak match. Since Andy and Mardy know each other so well, the estimated 5,000 fans in attendance should be well entertained!

andyroxmysox12191
04-07-2005, 08:33 PM
This might've been answered already, but is this being recorded or on tv or anything?

Deboogle!.
04-07-2005, 08:35 PM
nope, not that I know of :(

andyroxmysox12191
04-07-2005, 09:01 PM
Why does the world hate tennis? :ras: :(

Deboogle!.
04-07-2005, 10:46 PM
A look ahead to the clay court season
By Kate Flory, AR.com
2005-04-07

With the clay court season fast approaching, Andy Roddick is not one of the first names visible on the list of top clay court players. This could prove to be a serious omission, as Andy has, in fact, had a lot of success on clay. When Andy first broke on to the scene in 2001, the first tournament he won that year was a clay court event in Atlanta where he only dropped one set. A week later he was holding up the trophy at the Men’s Claycourt Championships in Houston. Not many can boast back to back clay court tournaments.

As Andy said “It's no secret that it's (clay) not my favourite surface, but it's definitely something that I'm trying to get better on. I think everybody has a weak surface; clay happens to be mine”. “I'm not a natural clay court player (but) once I get more and more comfortable on it, I start playing well.” This last statement is clearly evident in the impressive results he has picked up on the dirt and the big tussles he has been involved in with very accomplished clay court players.

Andy’s clay court success didn’t stop in 2001, he has had success every year since then. He defended his title in Houston a year later in ’02 and has reached the final there for the last two years. However Andy’s clay court wins aren’t limited to the States. In 2002 Andy reached the semi finals in Rome and a year later picked up his first title in Europe on the Austrian clay at St. Pölten. With his solid ground strokes Andy is not at sea on clay and although he acknowledges movement as being “the most difficult aspect,” sliding, is not a problem. “I grew up in Florida. You know, you play a lot of clay there. I slide fine”.

It has been a challenge for Andy to work out the results on clay. He admits that his days on the junior circuit didn’t produce the same type of results, “I used to get my butt kicked on it in Juniors a bunch when we came over here (to Europe). You know, the guys who are used to it just kind of used me for batting practice.” But where there’s a challenge involved you can expect Andy to rise up and meet it, “I like the challenge of trying to beat someone when they feel more comfortable and are a bit more natural. I think that's part of tennis, that's what makes tennis unique.”

Although he didn’t win in Seville, some of Andy’s most sterling efforts on clay were seen that weekend of the Davis Cup Final in December 2004. Andy was pitted against the clay’s best players and competed with them all the way in extremely gutsy performances. With his record on clay and the type of determination he showed in Spain, there is no reason why all of Andy’s fans should not be completely optimistic for the coming weeks!

Deboogle!.
04-08-2005, 03:53 AM
oh good this bodes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Losing to Mardy in exhibitions on clay!! Fantabulous!!!

Mardy Fish defeats Andy Roddick
6-4, 7-6

williaer
04-08-2005, 03:59 AM
oh god. i hope it was a jokey match, and not an actual one, cus that is just EMBARRASING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !! where did you find info on that, deb, i was looking for photos/info and couldnt find any..

Deboogle!.
04-08-2005, 04:01 AM
yea, basically. but all their exhibitions are jokey matches... It was definitely not a serious match. But still. Losing to mardy under ANY circumstances on CLAY.... HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

http://www.riveroaksinternational.com/results.htm

williaer
04-08-2005, 04:19 AM
there is just no excuse for losing to fishy boy on clay... or on any surface for that matter!!!!!

thanks for the link, deb!

Deboogle!.
04-08-2005, 04:21 AM
no, the only excuse I will possibly accept is that it was fixed and Andy let him :p

I love Mardy to death, but he is purely AWFUL on clay. AWFULLLLLL.

I'm just laughing about it.

Bodes really well for Andy's clay-court season :haha

Devotee
04-08-2005, 05:03 AM
oh good this bodes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Losing to Mardy in exhibitions on clay!! Fantabulous!!!

Mardy Fish defeats Andy Roddick
6-4, 7-6

Let's hope Andy was just playing lazy . . . otherwise . . . well, I'm getting chills up and down my spine -- for the upcoming clay season :wazzup:

Deboogle!.
04-08-2005, 05:04 AM
Let's hope Andy was just playing lazy . . . otherwise . . . well, I'm getting chills up and down my spine -- for the upcoming clay season :wazzup:

From what Carole and I could interpret from a post at AR.com Andy was being rather silly (as usual in exhibitions)... but yes... doesn't exactly make you burst with optimism lol

Anyway, after the debacle, I figured it was time to bring back the clay av :p

Deboogle!.
04-08-2005, 05:32 AM
yea.

Backwards hat!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't really tell what he's wearing and how ugly it is, though :p but I put a pic of a shirt it might be?
===========================

Roddick's wrist passes the test
No. 3 player healthy despite exhibition loss
By DALE ROBERTSON
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

The wrist injury that knocked defending champion Andy Roddick out of the Nasdaq-100 Open in his first match two weeks ago didn't seem to be an issue during his first appearance at River Oaks Country Club on Thursday night.

But, relaxed and joking, Roddick did lose to his childhood buddy and Olympic silver-medalist Mardy Fish 6-3, 7-6 in an exhibition in conjunction with the River Oaks International.

Roddick had earlier pronounced himself 100 percent fit in a cell phone conversation while he was driving down from Austin, saying he was looking forward to getting back on the court "in a competitive atmosphere."

"I had a good workout (Wednesday), and it feels perfect today," he said. :yeah:

Roddick, who has won 18 of his 22 matches in 2005 and is ranked No. 3 in the world behind Roger Federer and Lleyton Hewitt, whipped his forehand and served with his usual ferocity, two essential elements of his trademark power game. He had sprained a tendon in the wrist when he swung awkwardly from the baseline in the second set of a second-round match against Fernando Verdasco in Key Biscayne, Fla.

"It's always a tough dynamic (to decide whether to quit)," he said. "You don't want to make it worse. When you ask the trainer if (continuing to play) will make it worse and he answers, 'I don't know,' you have to be professional and make the smart decision."

Roddick is listed in the draw for the Master Series Monte Carlo tournament, which starts Monday, but he hasn't yet made a decision about traveling to Europe. He must tell the ATP by noon today. He'll be returning to Houston for the U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships at Westside Tennis Club the following week. (brilliant Andy, brilliant!!!! HAHA!)

While it appears highly unlikely he'll go to Monaco, Roddick laughed and said: "We'll see. ... I like a little spontaneity in my life."
:o:o:o:o:o

http://images.chron.com/content/news/photos/05/04/08/roddick.jpg


http://av.warehousesports.com/tw/ProductImages/RMRFPO-NV.JPG

williaer
04-08-2005, 10:05 AM
hahaha, i love the spontaneity thing!
deb, is that a pic from todays match??!

Deboogle!.
04-08-2005, 02:11 PM
Yep it was from last night :)

As someone at AR.com said (And I swear, I am copying and pasting without changing a thing).....

"yeaH HOPEFULLY he didnt takE thAt mAtCh toO seRioUslY..."

:o:o:o:o :haha::haha:

fangirl
04-08-2005, 02:18 PM
And to think I came online to give my eyes a break from these textbooks.

*rubs eyes painfully and contemplates and early night*

Deboogle!.
04-09-2005, 04:19 PM
So Andy's officially not in the MC draw.

Please Andy, practice a lot on clay before Houston and do well there. Is this too much to ask? :awww:

MissFairy
04-09-2005, 06:21 PM
So Andy's officially not in the MC draw.
:sad: okay, okay, i'm getting over it...now. I'm still cut up about it, i like Monte Carlo, damnit :o

Please Andy, practice a lot on clay before Houston and do well there. Is this too much to ask? :awww:
Deb, you do know you're asking ANDY right? :p

Dinkie
04-09-2005, 07:48 PM
Deb, you do know you're asking ANDY right? :p

Indeed, I think that is too much to ask! :angel: Although, he is the male Anna Kournikova and she played rather well on clay...mmmm. Maybe he should dye his hair blond and wear those tight shorts. Yeah baby, yeah!

andyroxmysox12191
04-09-2005, 08:07 PM
Well he better otherwise I'm coming to kick his ass :)

MissFairy
04-09-2005, 08:13 PM
Mani, i'm normally quite lazy, but im totally with you on that job :)

shall i book us a ticket to Houston, Rome or Hamburg?

Deboogle!.
04-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Deb, you do know you're asking ANDY right? :p sigh, I know.. I'm just trying to be optimistic :p

if I had my choice of those three cities, I'd take Rome thankyouverymuch :D

tangerine_dream
04-09-2005, 08:24 PM
Be healthy and do well in Houston, Andy. And remember to have FUN. :banana:

Ok, my gambling days are numbered. :( But I guess if I bet on the likes of Verdasco and Gonzo then I deserve to lose my money, right? Still, I'm annoyed that Nadal tanked his match and now I'm out of $500. Nadal sucks. Let me off his bandwagon. :p

And LOL, I love how GM is imploding again over Andy's (and most of the other American's) non-appearance at MC. The clay snobs are especially insensed over this perceived "snub" and continue to obsess over Andy's clay appearances and results. He doesn't even have to show up and he still gets under people's skin. :devil: Too good, Andy. :worship:

Deboogle!.
04-09-2005, 08:26 PM
But I guess if I bet on the likes of Verdasco and Gonzo then I deserve to lose my money, right? Yea, basically :haha: They're among the bigger headcases on tour. Their match against each other in Monte Carlo could be REALLY FUN. Too bad we won't get to see it :(

As for the Andy talk on GM...... *sings* Ma Nishtanaaaaa!!!!

am&a
04-09-2005, 08:27 PM
Ok, my gambling days are numbered. :( But I guess if I bet on the likes of Verdasco and Gonzo then I deserve to lose my money, right? Still, I'm annoyed that Nadal tanked his match and now I'm out of $500. Nadal sucks. Let me off his bandwagon. :pooh, ooh, guess how much i lost on verdasco! give up? okay, i'll tell you. i lost $2250.

Deboogle!.
04-09-2005, 08:27 PM
OMC! Poor Amanda :hug:

For a trip down memory lane.... pics from the first (and only) time Andy won match(es) at Monte Carlo...how sad.

superpinkone37
04-09-2005, 08:33 PM
wow Amanda :eek:

And though I like the blue, now that I have gotten used to him pretty much always wearing a hat with not so long hair....I am sorta glad the Ryan Cabrera-ish hair is gone... Andy better win a few matches though :fiery:

andyroxmysox12191
04-09-2005, 08:34 PM
Damn manda :hug:
I have no idea HOW to bet so I just leave it alone

PinkFeatherBoa
04-09-2005, 09:25 PM
Woah Amanda {{{HUG}}}, I never bet tons at once, I'm far too cautious.

As for GM going mad over Andy not playing MC, I'm sure its just because they'll miss not having anyone to winge about or laugh at. Still, he'll make it to Europe soon enough, they have plenty of times to get their kicks. :angel: Andy truly is like a drug for them, they can't get enough.

I just hope Andy has made the right decision and he does OK in the European tournies he actually attends. (:

williaer
04-09-2005, 10:59 PM
is GM another forum thing? can i have a link?

smucav
04-09-2005, 11:03 PM
And LOL, I love how GM is imploding again over Andy's (and most of the other American's) non-appearance at MC. The clay snobs are especially insensed over this perceived "snub" and continue to obsess over Andy's clay appearances and results. He doesn't even have to show up and he still gets under people's skin. :devil: Too good, Andy. :worship:And seemingly ignoring that there were a total of 13 main draw players who withdrew (only four were Americans/six if you count the Euro-Floridians Haas & Grosjean).

blosson
04-09-2005, 11:03 PM
please have the pleasure of meeting GM, beware of duck hunters!
http://www.menstennisforums.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=2 :eek:

williaer
04-09-2005, 11:15 PM
thanks, blosson. do i really need to beware... are they THAT bad??

williaer
04-09-2005, 11:22 PM
yep, ok, they are horrible. if someone defends ducky, the others just pin them to the ground and start critisising everything about andy.

gm is so depressing...

blosson
04-09-2005, 11:23 PM
not everyone's bad but there are some hard core andy haters there. there are some funny threads too. i loved the one about Llondra naked in Ljuby's locker...
just tone down your love for andy and it should be all fine. :)

Deboogle!.
04-09-2005, 11:25 PM
And seemingly ignoring that there were a total of 13 main draw players who withdrew (only three were Americans).

But the three americans who withdrew are all completely uninjured. Except for Haas and Grosjean, most of the other players who withdrew are injured. not even most of the GM people are going to give an injured person a hard time about pulling out from an event.

But I'm sure no one's dissing Tommy for playing an exhibition event with a big purse (River Oaks) and Houston instead of playing MC. :angel:

Golfnduck
04-10-2005, 12:17 AM
Most of the people in the GM don't have a brain. The few that do, make living alot easier. Just ignore what the peabrains say.

Iheartandy&roger
04-10-2005, 12:22 AM
GM is gay I don't even waste my time there anymore it's just an anti-andy place and it's negative .....boo on Gm.

smucav
04-10-2005, 12:26 AM
People can complain all they want, but there really is no disincentive for players to skip AMS events or any others. The current withdrawal penalties are monetary only (& fairly miniscule until a player accumulates several in a single year or withdraws late). In 2003 when Agassi (who was the #1/2 player at the time) was at the $80K penalty stage, he basically said to the ATP "F*** you, I'll play whatever tournaments I want even if you keep doubling my fines the rest of the year." Since it isn't good publicity for the sport for the ATP to publicly bicker with or cajole its top players regarding participation, it backed off & left Agassi & everyone else alone.

After the Madrid organizer forced the ATP to have a meeting about the issue during TMC 2004, the only outcome was the ATP encouraging the top players to wait until the last minute before the deadlines to withdraw so the tournaments could get the maximum utility out of their names. The ATP is a players association & the players are not going to vote to give themselves anything other (such as point deductions) than financial penalties. They might vote to reinstate some sort of reward system for playing all of the events (the ATP got rid of the AMS bonus pool at the end of 2002 somewhat because it was forcing players--including Safin--to play injured or lose money), but no way are they going to vote on penalizing themselves.

The WTA has a strange system where at certain tournaments they contractually fulfill quotas for players of a certain rank (i.e. if Davenport withdraws (injured or not) & Dementieva isn't playing that week, the WTA harangues Dementieva into accepting a wild card at the last minutes--thus delivering a replacement top 5 player to the tournament. Dementieva then gets out of some other WTA obligation later in the year for her cooperation.) I believe this has to do with WTA tournaments being so much more reliant than the ATP on the "stars" to sell tickets.

tangerine_dream
04-10-2005, 12:51 AM
Wow, am&a you actually had $2K to lose :eek: I hope I can win that much money some day :lol:

Deb, thanks for posting that pic of Andy. I've been looking everywhere for pics from the exhibition. He looks like retro-Andy with the backwards cap on. ;)

And of course nobody's complaining about Haas in GM. Whyever would they do so? His last name isn't Roddick. :devil:

please have the pleasure of meeting GM, beware of duck hunters!
aka GM 'tards. Don't step in their shit. ;)

I'm wondering how long Billy Moonshine can go on trying to argue reason with the diehard Roddick haters before he realizes it's a lost cause, they don't have a clue, and it's a complete waste of his time? Newbies! Gotta love 'em. Hope he visits us here soon. :D

Deboogle!.
04-10-2005, 01:29 AM
but there really is no disincentive for players to skip AMS events or any others.interesting post, smucav... even though we're not really the ones that need to be convinced of all this stuff :lol: I disagree with the little snippet I posted above, however. I'm annoyed that Andy (and Mardy) is not playing Monte Carlo, but not because of the ATP or the fines or the fact that it's a Masters event, yada yada yada but because these guys frigging need to get off their lazy asses and play on clay. The reason why people on GM make fun of Andy for skipping MC is not because they care if he's missing a Masters event, it's that they view him as just another American who's afraid to play on clay. And, really, they're probably all wrong. Look at it objectively - these guys are skipping a major tourney with big big prize money and lots and lots of points, for a small tourney with way fewer points and a paltry field (I will note, however, that I saw very little bashing of, say, Casablanca, which had a field that makes Houston look stellar...ha ha ha)....

Anyway, the reason I think there's a disincentive to not play (or an incentive TO play, if you will) is because I care for the guys and I want to see them do well, and I think they are doing themselves and their careers a disservice by shying away from playing the tougher tournaments. So maybe there's no real material monetary or punitive disincentive... but there should be one in the success of their careers, in my opinion.

Ultimately, these people detest Andy, and no matter what he does they will find fault (I do believe there were even a few who found something to say after Andy saved people's lives in the fire - I mean these are the kind of people we're talking about here). We're all better off when to just accept this, pity those poor people, and move on and IGNORE them. It's their loss if they don't like someone as cool as Andy :)

Deb, thanks for posting that pic of Andy. I've been looking everywhere for pics from the exhibition. He looks like retro-Andy with the backwards cap on. ;) You're welcome :) I love the backwards cap - it makes him look so much younger, it's uncanny!

And of course nobody's complaining about Haas in GM. Whyever would they do so? His last name isn't Roddick. :devil:Shit, it's not!?!? I thought it was Tommy Haas Roddick... that's the only reason I liked him :sad:

am&a
04-10-2005, 01:37 AM
Shit, it's not!?!? I thought it was Tommy Haas Roddick... that's the only reason I liked him :sad:still laughing... breathe amanda, breathe!!! d: (:

Deboogle!.
04-10-2005, 01:39 AM
still laughing... breathe amanda, breathe!!! d: (:

oh no! Breathe!!!

glad you appreciated my weak attempt at humor, though d:

Golfnduck
04-10-2005, 01:42 AM
I'm wondering how long Billy Moonshine can go on trying to argue reason with the diehard Roddick haters before he realizes it's a lost cause, they don't have a clue, and it's a complete waste of his time? Newbies! Gotta love 'em. Hope he visits us here soon. :D
OOOOO, a troll that would actually venture in here, that will be new. Clay season=Andy troll season.

am&a
04-10-2005, 01:43 AM
ooh, can we add roddick to like everyone's name? fun! d:

Deboogle!.
04-10-2005, 01:45 AM
ooh, can we add roddick to like everyone's name? fun! d:

Well, only the ones I like... cuz, y'know, that's obviously the only reason I like any of them. The truth is, I really only like Andy, but I think that all the other guys on my faves list and beyond have Roddick as their REAL last name so I think they're Andy and I get confused. Cuz I'm stupid and delusional and illiterate so I can't tell the difference between Andy and the rest of them anyway, right?

Speaking of fun, I think I used that word like 3 times in the package I sent you (:

am&a
04-10-2005, 01:50 AM
Speaking of fun, I think I used that word like 3 times in the package I sent you (:happy fun time! (: what did you send me, a hippo? d:

fangirl
04-10-2005, 02:41 AM
ooh, can we add roddick to like everyone's name? fun! d:

No because then all the tweenie boppers will be like 'hI mY NaMe is BRiTTanY JaNe RODDICK!11 BrItTaNy 4 AnDy 4eVa!1'

Havok
04-10-2005, 03:04 AM
oh good this bodes well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Losing to Mardy in exhibitions on clay!! Fantabulous!!!

Mardy Fish defeats Andy Roddick
6-4, 7-6
According to croat123 i'm supposed to care about meaningless exhibitions so here goes nothing:

UGh Andy how the hell did you lose to Mardy! This guy can't play tennis on clay and you go and lose to him. You suck.

Deboogle!.
04-10-2005, 03:06 AM
According to croat123 i'm supposed to care about meaningless exhibitions so here goes nothing:

UGh Andy how the hell did you lose to Mardy! This guy can't play tennis on clay and you go and lose to him. You suck.

:haha: :haha:

am&a
04-10-2005, 03:06 AM
i personally think my post in croat123's thread is one of the funniest posts i've ever made, but that's probably just me. d:

Deboogle!.
04-10-2005, 03:07 AM
No, it's not just you.

I just cackled again, just thinking about it.

tangerine_dream
04-10-2005, 05:22 AM
My new favorite player: Roger Roddick. He has no talent but wins everything anyway. :bowdown:

Golfnduck
04-10-2005, 06:37 PM
My new favorite player: Roger Roddick. He has no talent but wins everything anyway. :bowdown:
LMFAO!!!! :haha:

Deboogle!.
04-11-2005, 02:30 PM
blurb from the Houston Chronicle....
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Hard server, frequent flier
Note that Andy Roddick has withdrawn from the Monte Carlo field for the second year in a row. Last year he was exhausted, having just reached the U.S. Clay Court final after flying in from a victorious Davis Cup matchup with Sweden. This year, he has been rehabilitating a sprained wrist and trying to prepare for the Clay Court event at Westside Tennis Club.

After the exhibition against Mardy Fish on Thursday night at River Oaks, he pronounced the wrist recovered but later concluded — wisely — that a dash to Europe wasn't in his best interests.

Perhaps Roddick is learning to pace himself better. In 2004, according to the ATP's Deuce magazine, he flew 106,000 miles, visiting four continents, 10 countries and
12 states. But Roddick did pick up $2.6 million (about $24 per mile) for his trouble and no telling how many frequent-flier miles.

smucav
04-11-2005, 03:32 PM
Perhaps Roddick is learning to pace himself better. In 2004, according to the ATP's Deuce magazine, he flew 106,000 miles, visiting four continents, 10 countries and
12 states. But Roddick did pick up $2.6 million (about $24 per mile) for his trouble and no telling how many frequent-flier miles.I just got Deuce this weekend. It's the first issue without Andy on the cover, but he's heavily featured nonetheless from the editor's letter to the last page. The pages about Andy's travel (The Chronicles of Roddick) are very interesting--they even have a color-coded route map of Andy's travel just like the ones on The Amazing Race. He's in several other sections as well. Good magazine.

MisterQ
04-11-2005, 08:21 PM
If Andy's opponent on clay decides to stand back 10+ feet behind the baseline, do you think he should serve and volley more? It's not Andy's most comfortable play, but he could take advantage of the fact that the opponent is so far off the court, and he will have a little extra time to get in to the net and react to the shot.

It might be a way to make his big serve (especially the kick serve) more of a weapon on clay, even if he is not hitting lots of aces and services winners.

Deboogle!.
04-11-2005, 08:26 PM
If Andy's opponent on clay decides to stand back 10+ feet behind the baseline, do you think he should serve and volley more? It's not Andy's most comfortable play, but he could take advantage of the fact that the opponent is so far off the court, and he will have a little extra time to get in to the net and react to the shot.

It might be a way to make his big serve (especially the kick serve) more of a weapon on clay, even if he is not hitting lots of aces and services winners.

Absolutely :) That's how many of his opponents have beaten him on clay and it would definitely serve him well to do this at least sometimes to keep his opponents honest and force them to go for returns sometimes.

jasmine(usa)
04-11-2005, 11:24 PM
:wavey: Good luck to Andy in Houston. I know everyone in GM is having a fit about the American's so called 'snub' in MC. I was trying to defend Andy's decision to stay home and wait, but had my post called stupid.:o If you don't mind....I'd like a few of your opinions as to why he didn't play. I know they won't cause an arguement here, cause we're all ducky fans.:)

Deboogle!.
04-11-2005, 11:33 PM
That right there is why I stopped posting in GM. I was sick of being called stupid and I was sick of these people who resort to insults when they have nothing better to come at you with.

I think there are several reasons for Andy not playing...

1) his loyalty to Houston is FIERCE and he's not going to give it up, which means....
2) he doesn't really want to take the extra trans-Atlantic trip... these guys travel so much and it makes sense that they would want to take one less long trip like that.
3) he'd rather "get his feet wet" on the clay in a tournament where perhaps the caliber of opponent isn't as difficult and where he's much more comfortable.
4) he doesn't like playing on clay that much and doesn't think he HAS to play that tournament.

My personal opinion? It's a combination of all 4 of the above things, plus some others. He did do the Monte Carlo-Houston-Rome, etc. trip twice in his career.. so he knows if it's feasible or not for his mind and body. Traveling that much really is tough, so I don't blame the Americans for not wanting to take an extra trip.

I think Houston should be switched and should be the same week as Valencia and Casablanca (aka the week before MC). This is how it was last year, and my gut feeling is that Andy would have gone to MC last year if he had not been so exhausted from the Miami-DC-Houston period without any time off (and I saw how truly exhausted he was at the end of Houston.).

But now that they've moved DC, the QFs are all the way in July so there is an extra week in there so that they could move Houston to be before MC. Then they could have Houston, go overseas and play MC and then STAY in Europe, maybe play Estoril or Barcelona or whatever, and just stay in Europe for the rest of the clay season.

But these guys don't seem to want to give up Houston for one reason or another. They like it, they're happy, they like getting some matches in on clay where the caliber of the opponent isn't as strong, etc. So unless they move Houston to be before MC on a permanent basis, I think these guys are going to continue to skip MC. I think it's too bad. I think for a top player like Andy, he should be playing it, he shouldn't be shying away from a surface he doesn't like. He should be embracing the challenge by playing with people who are better on the surface than he is - confront the "demons" head on and try to get better.

The people in GM are just sad b/c they can't bump up their Duck Hunt thread and rejoice in Andy's loss for another week. I really do pity them.

liptea
04-11-2005, 11:47 PM
Go Andy go.

jasmine(usa)
04-12-2005, 12:36 AM
:hug: Thanks for replying, Deb. I agree with all four of your reasons. I stated that he wants to promote tennis in America, so of course he'd stay and play on our clay courts. The person said it was creative, but stupid. Well, I see why so many people talk so badly of GM.

Golfnduck
04-12-2005, 12:40 AM
The Andy haters really show up for the clay season. But I think Andy will do better this year on clay.

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 12:50 AM
And I am a Massu fan( sorry I know this is an Andy thread) but no one is getting on his case for playing Houston.

Because he's not Andy. No one's getting on Haas's case either.

You're welcome, Jasmine :) My personal opinion is that it doesn't have a whole lot to do with him wanting to do anything for american tennis. He's just crazyloyal to Mack. Mack gave him a WC back in 2001 and he is treated like GOD. It's also as close to a "hometown" tourney for him as possible. Last year at his practices, he had like 10 family members all lined up watching. I'm sure there's a part of him that feels obligated to a small tourney like this - he knows it counts on them for ticket sales and he knows the fans LOVE Him and look forward to seeing him play every year. Earlier this year, I remember Coria getting some bad press for not playing Buenos Aires. Granted, there are more US tourneys than there are Argentinian tourneys, but there's only one TX hometown tourney for Andy, so as much as I want to scream at him sometimes I understand why he plays there.

jasmine(usa)
04-12-2005, 01:06 AM
Because he's not Andy. No one's getting on Haas's case either.

You're welcome, Jasmine :) My personal opinion is that it doesn't have a whole lot to do with him wanting to do anything for american tennis. He's just crazyloyal to Mack. Mack gave him a WC back in 2001 and he is treated like GOD. It's also as close to a "hometown" tourney for him as possible. Last year at his practices, he had like 10 family members all lined up watching. I'm sure there's a part of him that feels obligated to a small tourney like this - he knows it counts on them for ticket sales and he knows the fans LOVE Him and look forward to seeing him play every year. Earlier this year, I remember Coria getting some bad press for not playing Buenos Aires. Granted, there are more US tourneys than there are Argentinian tourneys, but there's only one TX hometown tourney for Andy, so as much as I want to scream at him sometimes I understand why he plays there.Well, every other reason had been given so I posted that one. It's something he's said before(maybe not about playing in Houston), so I know I didn't make it up.:) Well, onto better things. I hope he beats a few good clay courters and shuts everyone up.


Hi Sue! Glad to see you here!:wavey:

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 01:10 AM
Well, every other reason had been given so I posted that one. It's something he's said before(maybe not about playing in Houston), so I know I didn't make it up.:) Nothing wrong with putting a new and different idea out there. And just b/c I may not totally agree with it doesn't mean I think it's stupid, like what they called it, because it's not. It ties into what I was saying, I think, that he does feel some sort of obligation to these little tourneys that gave him a chance back in 2001.

Well, onto better things. I hope he beats a few good clay courters and shuts everyone up. That'd be so nice :) But I'm not gonna hold my breath :awww:

williaer
04-12-2005, 01:10 AM
even though i wish andy would go to montecarlo, because he needs to play ball on some euro surfaces, its better for him to play in houston because of deb's 4 fab reasons, and he just needs some clay court confidence (CCC) and to win matches, because winning, and becoming comfy on clay is just what andymeister needs

liptea
04-12-2005, 01:27 AM
And I am a Massu fan( sorry I know this is an Andy thread) but no one is getting on his case for playing Houston.


Hi. Don't worry about coming to AndyLand, we're all friends here. And we show respect to other players, which is more than our haters can say.

:woohoo: I like Massu. Even though I LOVE Mardy Fish, I couldn't help but root for Nicolas at the Olympics last year.

Carito_90
04-12-2005, 01:30 AM
Earlier this year, I remember Coria getting some bad press for not playing Buenos Aires.

*sigh* Don't even remind me of that. I remember being there, in the ATP of Buenos Aires and there was an argentinean flag in the main stadium that said "Thanks Gaston for playing at home and not be like 'others' and go to Marsella" or something like that. But it DID mention "others" and "Marsella". It made me sick really, I don't get how people are so naive and think the desitions of which tournaments to play rely ONLY on the tennis player. Besides, he was going to play Buenos Aires and Marsella because they were on different weeks, but with this DC-change-of-dates thingy they had to make the Bs As tournament a week before and it came to happen that it was the same week as Marsella, and Coria had already signed with them to play there for 5 years.
So yeah... its... dissapointing that people do things like that and two weeks later they're cheering all the way for him in the DC. Sad.

But that's not really an issue here hehe.

Andy not playing MC is understandable and, even though I do not agree with it, it's his desition and he has enough reasons (or excuses as some people like to call them) to play it.
Its not the first time he does it so I don't get why people are STILL going over it. Okay I do actually, the fact that his first name is Andy and his surname is Roddick has got something to do there but still, I know people from GM are kinda slow but I didn't think they were THAT slow not to realise WHY he's not playing MC. I guess I was wrong.

jasmine(usa)
04-12-2005, 01:32 AM
Hi. Don't worry about coming to AndyLand, we're all friends here. And we show respect to other players, which is more than our haters can say.
Too true, Niti.
Sue, everyone is sweet and very funny here. :) You must read Kell's Lord Carlos story. I know it's around here somewhere. :p

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 01:35 AM
Sorry Caro :hug: the only reason I brought that up with Guille is to say that Andy can't really win.... b/c if he skipped Houston he'd get really bad press for that too. So he made his decision and he has to be ok with that. And my guess is that he is.

As for GM being slow.... yeah... I came here in October after Andy won the USO and there were STILL threads in GM about how Andy didn't deserve the title. I was like, whoa it was almost 2 months ago, time to get over it.

Cobalt :hug: You're welcome here whether you like Andy or not. I don't particularly love Massu but I'm not going to say anything mean to you because you do. That's not really the way most of us here at the Andy forum work. So you're welcome here anytime to chat with us and be silly :)

jasmine(usa)
04-12-2005, 01:39 AM
*sigh* Don't even remind me of that. I remember being there, in the ATP of Buenos Aires and there was an argentinean flag in the main stadium that said "Thanks Gaston for playing at home and not be like 'others' and go to Marsella" or something like that.I'm glad Gaudio finally won his home tourney.:) (I could talk about that man forever)

I like your siggy, carito. Kimmie is back! :p

andyroxmysox12191
04-12-2005, 01:40 AM
(no need to repeat)
*points to deb's post and agrees* ......oh and
*adds a smile*
:):):)
*ok 3 smiles*

Carito_90
04-12-2005, 01:46 AM
I know Deb, don't worry :) And yes, I know what you mean, he would get bad press, but Andy can't please everyone. He can't please Mack and the press by playing Houston AND please the fans (that actually care about his results and game) and his game lets say by playing MC. And we all know what Andy has to do and prefers so there you go.

And DEATH at the thing about the 2003 USO :lol: That is truly sad.

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 01:47 AM
I know Deb, don't worry :) And yes, I know what you mean, he would get bad press, but Andy can't please everyone. He can't please Mack and the press by playing Houston AND please the fans (that actually care about his results and game) and his game lets say by playing MC. And we all know what Andy has to do and prefers so there you go.

And DEATH at the thing about the 2003 USO :lol: That is truly sad. Yep that was exactly my point - that he can't please everyone :) And my guess is he'd rather disappoint the European tourney and the jerks on here rather than someone like Mack and the Houston fans, who have been so so so good to him over the last 4 years.

And yeah, as "interesting" as MTF is now, it might've been even worse a year and a half ago :lol:

Carito_90
04-12-2005, 01:51 AM
I'm glad Gaudio finally won his home tourney. :) (I could talk about that man forever)

I like your siggy, carito. Kimmie is back! :P

Hehe... well I'm not Gaudio's biggest fan... uh... by far :lol: But yeah, good for him I guess :p

And yeah, rock on Kimmy! :banana:

Carito_90
04-12-2005, 01:53 AM
Yep that was exactly my point - that he can't please everyone And my guess is he'd rather disappoint the European tourney and the jerks on here rather than someone like Mack and the Houston fans, who have been so so so good to him over the last 4 years. :)

Exactly.

And yeah, as "interesting" as MTF is now, it might've been even worse a year and a half ago :lol:

DEATH. :haha:

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 02:00 AM
DEATH. :haha: What's funny is that I joined MTF to ask a question about rankings or something, then I saw all the hateful drivel against Andy... and at that point, I was a fan but I didn't really care as much and all the hateful spew actually made me like Andy MORE! :haha:

am&a
04-12-2005, 02:01 AM
What's funny is that I joined MTF to ask a question about rankings or something, then I saw all the hateful drivel against Andy... and at that point, I was a fan but I didn't really care as much and all the hateful spew actually made me like Andy MORE! :haha:you know, i think i've heard this story before... d:

andyroxmysox12191
04-12-2005, 02:02 AM
me too manda...;)

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 02:03 AM
you know, i think i've heard this story before... d:

You know, I think it may have come up on MSN last night d:

tangerine_dream
04-12-2005, 03:34 AM
jasmine, the person who called you "stupid" is TennisChick, a well-known Roddick-hating troll in GM. Her opinion about you means nothing because she is nothing. When she resorts to personal insults, that means you pretty much have her cornered.

And I can't believe that "snub" thread is still going strong, thanks in large part to GWH's bizarre obsession with Andy and clay. He's the only one bitching about Andy not being at MC, whereas all the normal people are like: 'um, so what's the big deal?' :lol: Dolts like him can't grasp the simple logic as to why a player would prefer to play a HOME tournament that said player LOVES to play in, and has a personal history there that means something close and dear to his heart. :cuckoo: And for a newbie, Billy Moonshine did a real number on him, leaving poor GWH's head was spinning around and around and around like Linda Blair. Too funny. It was all very entertaining to read. Too bad I couldn't take it into the bathroom with me.

Speaking of clay, can anybody identify which clay tournament this pic was taken at? He looks like he's posing for a bottle water advertisement. lol ;)

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 03:38 AM
Speaking of clay, can anybody identify which clay tournament this pic was taken at? He looks like he's posing for a bottle water advertisement. lol ;)

I don't recognize that outfit at all :eek:

But... it had to have been at least since 2004 because of the trucker hat.... and it wasn't 2004 b/c he wore green through the whole clay season! It's not from the DC Playoff in Slovakia b/c he wore his 2003 USO outfit there.

I'd say it's from the other night in Houston but he wore his hat backwards?

omc, i have no clue :( where'd you find it?

tangerine_dream
04-12-2005, 04:05 AM
omc, i have no clue :( where'd you find it?

I can't believe this, I stumped the mighty Debstah! :woohoo: This calls for a drink :drink:

Guess we'll have to wait for Naldo the Incredible Brain to show up and tell us where it's from. Come on, Naldo, show us what you got. :banana:

smucav
04-12-2005, 04:16 AM
El Mago speaks!
Coria pronounces Andy Roddick a "favorite" on clay, says The Fed lacks patience:

http://montecarlo.masters-series.com/1005/news/05_coria1.asp
Q. Who are the most difficult opponents for you this season on clay?
GUILLERMO CORIA: I think Nadal and Gaudio. They have everything to play very good on clay. They are the favorites to win all the tournaments ‑ especially Gaudio, who won the French Open. They have the game to win all the tournaments.

Q. And Federer ?
GUILLERMO CORIA: Well, he can be dangerous on clay, yes, indeed, but he must be more patient. Also I think Nadal and Gaudio have a better game than he does on clay. But Federer is playing very good on all kinds of surfaces. If he has to play against either Nadal or Gaudio, it can become a bit complicated for him. But, anyway, there are many favorites: There's Safin, there's Roddick, there's Ferrero, who's coming back again. There are many of them.

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 04:17 AM
I can't believe this, I stumped the mighty Debstah! :woohoo: This calls for a drink :drink:

Guess we'll have to wait for Naldo the Incredible Brain to show up and tell us where it's from. Come on, Naldo, show us what you got. :banana:

:spit: :haha: :haha: Naldo Naldo come out wherever you are! We need you!

tangerine_dream
04-12-2005, 04:18 AM
Andy is *everybody's* favorite on clay. They all hope to draw Andy at RG. :lol:

smucav
04-12-2005, 04:28 AM
Andy is *everybody's* favorite on clay. They all hope to draw Andy at RG. :lol:Maybe Coria considers everyone who has beaten him on a clay a favorite:

Roddick-Coria Head-to-Head: Roddick leads 4-0
2004 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, RR Roddick 76 63
2004 Miami AMS, Hard, F Roddick 67 63 61
2003 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, RR Roddick 63 67 63
2002 Houston, Clay, S Roddick 63 26 62 :)

Neither Safin nor Nadal have beaten him on clay though.

I just thought his answer was somewhat bizarre. :confused: It's not like they asked him point blank, "do you think Andy Roddick is a favorite" the way they did about The Fed. He brought Andy's name up on his own.

jasmine(usa)
04-12-2005, 12:44 PM
Andy is *everybody's* favorite on clay. They all hope to draw Andy at RG. :lol::lol: I'll laugh with you on that one, Tangy.

I thought TC liked Andy. She even has a poem in her siggy about him. Oh well, I'll just let them bash whoever they want to over in GM. I've been out of highschool for ten years. I don't need all that drama.:D

Carito, we still have Kimmie in common. I'm a rare breed...I like Coria and Gaudio. I just like Gaudio a lot more.:)

Golfnduck
04-12-2005, 02:37 PM
Andy is *everybody's* favorite on clay. They all hope to draw Andy at RG. :lol:
I would like to play Andy at RG so I could see him slide on his ass :lol:

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 02:39 PM
I thought TC liked Andy. She even has a poem in her siggy about him. HAHAHAAHAHAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She probably hates him more than any other person on this board does. She hates him so much she's not even allowed to post at this forum, I don't think.

But anyway, I agree with you about not needing the drama :)

Golfnduck
04-12-2005, 02:41 PM
:lol: I'll laugh with you on that one, Tangy.

I thought TC liked Andy. She even has a poem in her siggy about him. Oh well, I'll just let them bash whoever they want to over in GM. I've been out of highschool for ten years. I don't need all that drama.:D
The quote in her siggy has to do with bashing Andy in a way that is more below the radar than the other Andy haters.

Deboogle!.
04-12-2005, 02:52 PM
Kind of interesting about Clay.... I wonder when Andy said that stuff about not giving up on clay and improving his movement...
--------------
Farming for title? Stay away from clay
U.S. drought on France's favorite surface leaves many top men digging for answers

By DALE ROBERTSON
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

The South American/Mexican clay-court season came and went in February without American participation, and the two European kickoff events last week in Spain and Morocco were completely bereft of Yanks as well.

In the first 2005 Masters Series tournament on red clay in Monte Carlo, which began Monday, only Vince Spadea was there to wave Old Glory.

But he's already out, having lost the first official American clay-court set of the year 6-0 to Radek Stepanek of the Czech Republic. At least some face was saved in the 7-5 second set.

If you sense a trend here, you're on to something.


Little to hope for
The top Americans are all scheduled to play in the French Open, and they will grudgingly prepare for it the best they can. But the next two months on the ATP calendar remain the longest, hardest, least-rewarding slog for the U.S. contingent on the Tour. The top six Americans have little to show for their efforts to conquer clay over the last four seasons, and there's no reason to expect anything to change soon among the men.

"It's just not our surface," concedes James Blake, whose finest moments on the stuff have come at the River Oaks International, a non-ATP-sanctioned event he won for the second time on Sunday. "None of us grew up on it, and none of us practice on it that much."

So until the French Open is behind them and preparations for Wimbledon begin, the Americans figure to be mostly stuck in the mud on dirt. But because none of the top clay-court stars will be leaving Europe to visit Houston for the U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships starting Monday — there's a bigger prize-money tournament in Barcelona opposite the one at Westside Tennis Club — at least the Americans stand a fighting chance of holding their own on the home turf.

Not counting Blake's River Oaks dominance, only Andy Roddick and Andre Agassi among the Americans have won, or even come remotely close to winning, clay-court titles anywhere in the world since 2001, when the U.S. championships moved to Houston from Disney World. And three of their combined six victories have been at Westside, where Roddick has also been runner-up the last two years.

Eighteen of his 41 match wins on clay since he became a fixture on the ATP Tour in 2001 have come in Houston — including eight of his 11 in 2003-04. He has withdrawn from the Monte Carlo festivities each of the last two years, no doubt sensing futility.

"But I'm a long way from giving up on clay," Roddick said. "I still think I can learn to play effectively on it if I can improve my movement, and that's what I'm emphasizing."


Agassi's regimen
Agassi hasn't entered Monte Carlo since 1998, when he lost in the second round to Pete Sampras. In fact, his preparation for the French Open in 2004 consisted of only the Austrian stop, where he stumbled in the first round. He also succumbed straightaway in Paris, ending a run of three consecutive quarterfinal appearances.

This year, he'll play Houston and Rome (May 2-8), then see how he's holding up physically before deciding on a tuneup in Germany or Austria.

"The work on clay will do me good," Agassi said recently from Las Vegas, conceding his extra-light schedule of a year ago didn't serve him well. "It will help prepare me for the (grass and hard-court) seasons. Then when I get on those surfaces, where I'll obviously have a better chance to win, I'll be in better match condition."

Agassi, who turns 35 at the end of the month, is the only American to conquer the French Open (1999) since his new doubles partner Jim Courier's back-to-back triumphs in 1991-92. None of Sampras' record 14 Grand Slams were won in Paris, and Roddick has made it past the second round but once.

As for the other second-tier Americans — Blake, Vince Spadea, Taylor Dent, Mardy Fish and Robby Ginepri — they are a combined 7-10 on French clay, with only Spadea boasting a winning record (5-3). Fish, Dent and Ginepri are all winless at Roland Garros.


Coria beaten in better days
No American has a victory over an elite clay-courter anywhere in the last four years, save for Roddick's beating Guillermo Coria in three sets at Westside in 2002. But Coria, the French Open runner-up in 2004, ranked just 109th in the world at the time. When Roddick won in St. Poelten, Austria, in 2003, he defeated Russia's Nikolay Davydenko in the final. Only recently, though, has Davydenko cracked the top 20.

Among the Yanks, Agassi possesses the lone clay-court Masters title of the new millenium, having defeating Tommy Haas in the Rome final in 2002. Agassi, of course, beat Roddick in Houston for his other title on dirt, and his conspicuous oh-fer of a year ago notwithstanding, he has still won 27 of 37 matches on clay dating to 2001.

blosson
04-12-2005, 03:57 PM
Andy is *everybody's* favorite on clay. They all hope to draw Andy at RG. :lol:

Fabulous funny quote :)

smucav
04-12-2005, 04:16 PM
There's a whole thread about Coria's bizarre comments in GM:
http://www.menstennisforums.com/showthread.php?t=33700
Most people find them puzzling.

Some posters (Coria-haters I think) interpret his comments as some sort of diss on Moya (since he didn't mention him at all). Others (Coria fans I think) say that he mentioned Andy because he has great respect for him (regardless of the surface). There's also a lot of speculation about his comments about The Fed & Gaudio.

Carito_90
04-12-2005, 04:19 PM
That comment from Guille just made me like him more :lol: Even though he's absolutely WRONG. :lol:

tangerine_dream
04-12-2005, 04:43 PM
Just wait till RG rolls around. The Coria-haters will be out in droves with their claws unsheathed. :rolleyes:

I hope he wins RG. Just to piss everyone off. :devil:

Golfnduck
04-12-2005, 05:35 PM
Just wait till RG rolls around. The Coria-haters will be out in droves with their claws unsheathed. :rolleyes:

I hope he wins RG. Just to piss everyone off. :devil:
I would love to see an Andy-Coria final at RG, this place would explode :explode:

Jennay
04-12-2005, 11:29 PM
I hope Guille wins, just because I do. :p

And dead at the mention of Roddick.

Havok
04-13-2005, 12:35 AM
jasmine, the person who called you "stupid" is TennisChick, a well-known Roddick-hating troll in GM. Her opinion about you means nothing because she is nothing. When she resorts to personal insults, that means you pretty much have her cornered.

And I can't believe that "snub" thread is still going strong, thanks in large part to GWH's bizarre obsession with Andy and clay. He's the only one bitching about Andy not being at MC, whereas all the normal people are like: 'um, so what's the big deal?' :lol: Dolts like him can't grasp the simple logic as to why a player would prefer to play a HOME tournament that said player LOVES to play in, and has a personal history there that means something close and dear to his heart. :cuckoo: And for a newbie, Billy Moonshine did a real number on him, leaving poor GWH's head was spinning around and around and around like Linda Blair. Too funny. It was all very entertaining to read. Too bad I couldn't take it into the bathroom with me.

Speaking of clay, can anybody identify which clay tournament this pic was taken at? He looks like he's posing for a bottle water advertisement. lol ;)
What outfit is that?:retard: He wore the puke green at every clay match last year. Can it actually be a picture of THIS year maybe?:shrug: I seriously have no clue, you've stumped even me.:bolt:

aceit
04-13-2005, 12:57 AM
I would love to see an Andy-Coria final at RG, this place would explode :explode:
I would absolutly be dead from laughing so hard if that happened. I'm sure most of this forum would be too.

Golfnduck
04-13-2005, 12:58 AM
I hope Guille wins, just because I do. :p

And dead at the mention of Roddick.
I can pray that Andy will win RG, but the Red Sox won the World Series, so you never know.

aceit
04-13-2005, 01:01 AM
I can pray that Andy will win RG, but the Red Sox won the World Series, so you never know.
Don't get me started. :p

Golfnduck
04-13-2005, 01:05 AM
Don't get me started. :p
LOL!!!

snaillyyy
04-13-2005, 01:13 AM
I would absolutly be dead from laughing so hard if that happened. I'm sure most of this forum would be too.

We wouldnt just laugh, we would feel the earth shift on its axis :p :lol:

aceit
04-13-2005, 01:15 AM
We wouldnt just laugh, we would feel the earth shift on its axis :p :lol:
...And then we'd wake up and realize it's all just a dream.

snaillyyy
04-13-2005, 01:23 AM
...And then we'd wake up and realize it's all just a dream.
yea..but ahhhh what a dream while it lasted!.

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 01:29 AM
What outfit is that?:retard: He wore the puke green at every clay match last year. Can it actually be a picture of THIS year maybe?:shrug: I seriously have no clue, you've stumped even me.:bolt:

:eek: tangy you stumped both Naldo and me... please tell us you know the answer!!!! :lol:

andyroxmysox12191
04-13-2005, 01:30 AM
Watch me know the answer.....mwahahhaha :D

am&a
04-13-2005, 01:31 AM
i know the answer.

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 01:34 AM
no you don't! :haha:

I just thought, it could be a practice pic from the 2004 DC Final? He had the trucker hat then and it was on red clay and he didn't wear green.

But it's the shirt that's so foreign to me.

no wait, it couldn't be DC 2004 because he had just buzzcut his hair again at TMC like a couple weeks before and his hair is peeking out from the bottom of his hat.

I seriously have no clue :sad:

am&a
04-13-2005, 01:42 AM
okay, i'll rephrase. i THINK i know the answer.

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 01:48 AM
What do you think it is?

am&a
04-13-2005, 01:50 AM
i'm not gonna say here because i'm probably wrong. d:

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 01:52 AM
come onnnn we're trying to figure it out! LOL

I mean we've got it narrowed down pretty good. It has to be at least since the USO 2003 b/c of the trucker hat. It's not from the 2004 clay season b/c he wore green the entire time (unless it's from a practice session, in which case we can't really identify where it's from except that i'm sure it's not Houston and he doesn't usually wear his "tournament" type clothes in his practices...), it's not from DC 2004........

that leaves...... the thing last week...... but the clay at River Oaks is much darker based on pics of other players from the Houston paper......

andyroxmysox12191
04-13-2005, 01:57 AM
Go manda with your guess! d:

tangerine_dream
04-13-2005, 02:07 AM
What outfit is that?:retard: He wore the puke green at every clay match last year. Can it actually be a picture of THIS year maybe?:shrug: I seriously have no clue, you've stumped even me.:bolt:

Get out. The Great Naldo, the one with the photographic memory, is also stumped?? :eek:

I can't believe it. I stumped Debstah AND Naldo. This is history folks! woooooo :woohoo: :rocker: :smoke:

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 02:10 AM
Great, yay, good for you :worship: :bowdown:

BUT DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS FROM?????? :haha:

andyroxmysox12191
04-13-2005, 02:25 AM
:haha: deb! :haha: how nice are you?! :p

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 02:27 AM
I'm very nice :p

just in a really really shittastic mood and very tired

but i have my theories about ths pic.

I'll just say.... General Hospital.....

Carole will know what I mean I think :p

snaillyyy
04-13-2005, 02:38 AM
I'll just say.... General Hospital.....

Carole will know what I mean I think :p

Yea Deb :p and some storylines need to DIE NOW!

tangerine_dream
04-13-2005, 02:39 AM
:haha:

OK, I finally figured out where the pic is from: 2003 DC practice vs Slovakia. :p

There. Happy? I am. Cause I stumped the Mighty Deb and Naldo! mwahaha :devil: :banana:

Havok
04-13-2005, 02:45 AM
Thanks for telling us, but that shirt is still pissing me off. I seriously don't remember it at all.:speakles:

Deboogle!.
04-13-2005, 02:46 AM
Yes Carole they need to die NOW!!!!!!!!!!! Actually they needed to die three weeks ago.....

ok so it WAS a practice.. so we had the right idea - both of us knew it wasn't from an actual match :cool:

Éowyn
04-13-2005, 03:49 AM
damn it for not coming in sooner! i just saw that pic and was gonna say i know i know! but tangy beat me! i really should pay more attention to these trheads

smucav
04-14-2005, 02:25 AM
http://www.houstonpress.com/issues/2005-04-14/sports.html

:)A Hot Racket: Andre and Andy take a swing at the U.S. Tennis Clay Court Championships

Stuck up and stodgy? Try studly and sweaty. That's men's tennis for you nowadays, having long shed its cable-knit identity in favor of bicep-baring, neon-wearing superstars. Yes, the ladies get plenty of attention, thanks to toned legs under teensy skirts, but the dudes deserve their share of catcalling -- even if you have to do it under your breath. This weekend's Clay Court Championships bring several of the most dominant, and attractive, players to Houston. Andy Roddick -- who has hammered serves faster than 150 miles per hour, won the tourney in 2001 and 2002 and even dated Mandy Moore -- returns this year. The everlasting and still-sexy Andre Agassi will challenge him, as will defending champion Tommy Haas, whose flowing locks should appease those nostalgic for vintage Agassi. Defending doubles champions Mardy Fish and James Blake return as well.
Fans can check out the full match schedule after the draw on April 15. But the folks at Westside Tennis Club seem to have made some presumptions about their crowd already: April 19 is "Ladies Day" and will feature a fashion show and mini-manicures and pedicures. But we imagine most gals will have their eyes on the balls, beginning at 4 p.m. Monday, April 18. Finals are April 24. 1200 Wilcrest. For information, call 713-783-1620 or visit www.mensclaycourt.com. $30 to $75. -- Julia Ramey

Deboogle!.
04-14-2005, 02:27 AM
The everlasting and still-sexy Andre Agassi HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tommy Haas, whose flowing locks should appease those nostalgic for vintage Agassi HAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ohhhhhhh how I miss the Houston Press..... good times, good times.

smucav
04-14-2005, 02:41 AM
But we imagine most gals will have their eyes on the balls
Wasn't that the point of this?

http://www.atptennis.com/en/insidetheatp/newballsplease/

http://www.atptennis.com/en/fanzone/newballsplease/

Deboogle!.
04-14-2005, 02:43 AM
Wasn't that the point of this?

http://www.atptennis.com/en/insidetheatp/newballsplease/

http://www.atptennis.com/en/fanzone/newballsplease/:lol: you'd think.....

Let's just say that the Houston Press is a very......ummmmmm.... interesting publication

Tytta!.
04-14-2005, 01:55 PM
The everlasting and still-sexy Andre Agassi

DEATH!!!!!!!! I second Deb in this one :rolls:

Deboogle!.
04-14-2005, 01:59 PM
Andy and friends are in Houston..... OMFG HOTEL DEREK!!!!! HAHHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A couple years ago my friends were hanging out in that part of the city (swanky) and there's this huge Hotel Derek, so we were like "damn that place is cool let's go inside if they'll let us in" so we went inside and walked around and got stared at b/c we were in jeans :rolls: It's a really cool place though, very modern and trendy :cool:

"Tennis hunks Andy Roddick, Mardy Fish and James Blake grabbing late-night fare at bistro moderne in the Hotel Derek"

EDIT: Wait, I just realized that if that was in Today's Houston Chronicle, that means Andy is in Houston about a week before the tourney starts :eek: that means he's probably practicing on clay. :eek: *holds hand to Andy's forehad* I hope he's feeling ok!

blosson
04-14-2005, 05:45 PM
Wasn't that the point of this?

http://www.atptennis.com/en/insidetheatp/newballsplease/

http://www.atptennis.com/en/fanzone/newballsplease/


ATP is running out of web content.
I think AR.com is running out of content and ideas too.

Everyone is just doing 'vintage'

Golfnduck
04-14-2005, 07:10 PM
I'm impressed, Andy is actually at a tourament early, and practicing. Hopefully this means he is dedicated to improving his clay game.

Deboogle!.
04-14-2005, 07:30 PM
here's an AR.com flashback..... to his best clay match ever, arguably.....
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Flashback - French Open Second Round, 2001
2005-04-14
As the clay court season is now upon us, and Andy’s participation in it begins next week in Houston, AR.com decided to do it’s last flashback on one of Andy’s truly memorable clay court matches: his five set victory over Michael Chang in the second round of the French Open, 2001. The final result was 5-7, 6-3, 6-4, 6-7(5), 7-5.

However, despite the score being significant, it is more the drama of the match that makes it stand out in memory. Andy was just 18 years old, and this was just his third professional Grand Slam match. During the three hours and 50 minute classic, the young American made known his arrival onto the scene on an international level.

After missing his chances to close the match out in the fourth set, Andy “hit the wall” physically and began experiencing terrible cramps in his calves, groin and hands. Andy grimaced and pulled up after nearly every shot and as the fifth set went on, even leaned momentarily on a line judge for support.

Not requesting an injury time out, fearing that if he did stop for too long, he would not be able to get back up, Andy after the match explained, “I was just hoping that I could hold out long enough before I would be on my back or rolling over or something.”

At 4-4 in the fifth set, Andy hit a beautiful drop shot to take the match to 5-4. After receiving treatment during a sit-down, he squandered his first match point in the next game. However, on his next match point at 6-5, he made no mistake as he belted a sizzling forehand, to which Chang had no answer.

Andy celebrated dramatically by ripping his shirt down the middle. This image was mirrored by his coach Tarik Benhabiles who was also ripping his shirt in the stands. Andy then threw his cap, towels and racquet into the crowd.

On describing how he felt after the winning point, “Relief, joy -- you can't even explain a moment like that," he said. "I almost wanted to cry, but I wanted to scream and yell at the same time.”

The match was very reminiscent of 1989, the Centre court, where Michael Chang at a young age had cramped badly but prevailed over Ivan Lendl. Andy, who was six at the time, watched that match and admitted that it “inspired” him.

The task might have been too challenging for many, but as Andy commented, “Hey, you don't play a match for three and a half hours to lay down and die when it gets tough”

Golfnduck
04-14-2005, 07:34 PM
That's the Andy that I love :hearts:

smucav
04-15-2005, 10:14 PM
The Houston draw is out:

http://www.atptennis.com/posting/2005/717/MDS.pdf

Andy plays a qualifier in the first round. (Qualifying draw is later tonight; there wasn't an early entry list.)

He wouldn't meet one of the better claycourters (Horna, Haas, & Puerta) in his half until at least the QFs. Massu, Grosjean, Agassi are in the other half.

Deboogle!.
04-15-2005, 11:03 PM
tough draw but at least he can only face one of them. But they can, and might, all take him out. Especially Puerta, who is the person I'd expect to see come through that part of the draw based on recent claycourt form. Andy took apart Horna pretty good in last year's SF.

Wait, I just looked at the whole draw. Andy could get Horna in the QF AND Haas or Puerta in the SF. Tougher draw.

kiwifan80
04-15-2005, 11:12 PM
It's pretty tough, but it could be worse.

Deboogle!.
04-15-2005, 11:14 PM
Mardy or Robby in the 2nd round isn't easy as pie either, considering it's clay and who knows what any of these :retard: Americans will play like on it.

Puerta is the toughest for sure, considering he just took out Moya on clay, won a clay title, etc.

Oh well, at least Andy can't use exhaustion as an excuse this year :p

kiwifan80
04-15-2005, 11:21 PM
Mardy or Robby in the 2nd round isn't easy as pie either, considering it's clay and who knows what any of these :retard: Americans will play like on it.
:p

:lol: I know, for some reason I thought that his first round would be relaitvely easy, but *duhh* Andy's not the most comfortable on clay, but neither are Robbie/Fish. I guess it's sort of a toss up :confused:

Deboogle!.
04-15-2005, 11:25 PM
Well, Andy owns Mardy and Robby in ATP matches on other surfaces, I'd be concerned if he lost to them on clay either. A qualifier should be relatively "easy" so to speak, but obviously no opponent, especially on clay, should be taken lightly - especially since Andy hasn't played a real match in a few weeks.

kiwifan80
04-15-2005, 11:36 PM
Well, Andy owns Mardy and Robby in ATP matches on other surfaces, I'd be concerned if he lost to them on clay either.

I'd be concerned too. I'm not saying I'm not confident that he will win, just that it's more an equalizer to me, now that both American's are playing on clay.

PinkFeatherBoa
04-15-2005, 11:37 PM
Mardy or Robby in the 2nd round isn't easy as pie either, considering it's clay and who knows what any of these :retard: Americans will play like on it.

Puerta is the toughest for sure, considering he just took out Moya on clay, won a clay title, etc.

Oh well, at least Andy can't use exhaustion as an excuse this year :p

I'd hope that he would beat Mardy/Robby fairly comfortably, even on clay- it'll be a bit bad if he loses to either of them. As for the qualifier, thats tricky to judge, until I know who it is, but they are likely to be quite accustomed to the clay, so Andy would have to come out of the blocks fast, which I'm unsuere of how he's going to adjust to the clay. I agree, Puerta is one that Andy could have a tough time with but hmm I think I'll stop looking ahead in the draw, as this is clay. Knowing Andy, he can fall to anyone on the dirt, though I still expect him to do well in Houston.

Éowyn
04-16-2005, 01:55 AM
i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw i hate the draw

just wanted to say that! my boys are all in that same lil section again! and although andy is always my #1 i don't want my #2's getting thrashed although to behonest i think either of them could turn andy over on the right day!

btw i hate the draw

Golfnduck
04-16-2005, 01:59 AM
Well, the draw is tough but Andy could make the semis. I think he should do well here, hopefully he has been practicing alot on clay.

Éowyn
04-16-2005, 02:08 AM
Well, the draw is tough but Andy could make the semis. I think he should do well here, hopefully he has been practicing alot on clay.

i dunno losing to mardy last week even though only in an exho not all that much of a great sign! but fingers crossed he could be trying to tease us

Deboogle!.
04-16-2005, 02:28 AM
The qualie draw is out - the toughest potential opponent for Andy IMO would be Nico Lapentti...

Deboogle!.
04-16-2005, 02:32 PM
:eek: Andy's playing DOUBLES???????!!!!!!!

Doubles, anyone? Event seeks its perfect pair
High-profile combos the talk of Clay Court
By DALE ROBERTSON
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

They set the singles draw for the U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships on Friday, but, even with Andy Roddick, Andre Agassi and defending champion Tommy Haas entered, everybody wanted to know about doubles.

Such is Agassi's star power. When he convinced Jim Courier, a retired four-time Grand Slam winner, to be his partner next week at Westside Tennis Club, "dubs" was suddenly sharing center stage. The two 34-year-olds with 12 Slams between them will be the featured match at 7 p.m. Monday, no matter whom they face. Getting in the spirit, Roddick called in requesting a doubles wild card, too. He'll be teaming up with a buddy from Austin, Trace Davis.:eek::yeah:

Throw in the two-time defending Masters Cup champions Bob and Mike Bryan plus the reigning Clay Court champions, James Blake and Mardy Fish, and you have a seriously interesting draw, which won't be set until Sunday.

Westside owner Jim McIngvale, a huge fan of doubles, personally upped the prize money a year ago to match that of singles. Now, McIngvale all but conceded he'll have to reprise his voluntary largess.

"The guys will be disappointed if I don't, I suppose," the Gallery Furniture owner said. "I'll just have to sell some more sofas."

For Courier, it will be his first match of any kind on the ATP Tour since 1999.

In Roddick, Agassi and Haas, the top three singles seeds, the field has all of the former champions since the tournament moved to Houston in 2001.

The fourth seed, Nicolas Massu of Chile, won singles and doubles gold medals at the Athens Olympics. American Taylor Dent, who defaulted last week at the River Oaks International because of a sprained ankle, is the fifth seed.

The No. 1 ITF junior in the world, 15-year-old American Donald Young, received a wild card, as did Blake, who won at River Oaks on Sunday.

Three rounds of qualifying will be held over the weekend and are open to the public.

Agassi meets Michal Tabara of the Czech Republic and Roddick faces one of the four qualifiers in the first round of the $380,000 event. Both matches probably will be Tuesday.

Play starts Monday. There will be back-to-back matches beginning at 1:30 p.m. and 7 p.m. daily through Saturday. Tickets remain for all sessions.