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Björki
02-24-2005, 11:20 AM
Rainer :smash:

matthieu2701
02-24-2005, 11:20 AM
Misha 6-5
who is on serve?

Misha

Five
02-24-2005, 11:21 AM
Keep it up in 2nd Misha :yippee:

manuelza
02-24-2005, 11:22 AM
match isnt finished....shuettler isnt ever dead

jogoss_78
02-24-2005, 11:22 AM
fight schuttler

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:23 AM
Misha hold 2nd set!!!!

matthieu2701
02-24-2005, 11:23 AM
1 - 0 Rainer

Five
02-24-2005, 11:23 AM
Misha 0-1 in 2nd

manuelza
02-24-2005, 11:23 AM
any news?

manuelza
02-24-2005, 11:24 AM
cmon guys news please

matthieu2701
02-24-2005, 11:26 AM
1 - 1

Five
02-24-2005, 11:26 AM
1-1 in 2nd
break him Misha :rocker2:

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:26 AM
RAiner 15-30

Fergie
02-24-2005, 11:26 AM
Fight Misha!!!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:27 AM
Rainer 15-40 (break points)

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:27 AM
Rainer 30-40

gary
02-24-2005, 11:28 AM
go Misha!! :D

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:28 AM
Deuce

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:28 AM
C'mon Misha, dont blow it!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:28 AM
adv Misha :)

Five
02-24-2005, 11:29 AM
:mad: 2bps missed :banghead:

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:29 AM
Deuce n2

okt8
02-24-2005, 11:30 AM
Vamos Schüttler !!!!!!!!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:30 AM
Adv Rainer

jogoss_78
02-24-2005, 11:31 AM
hold please rainer

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:31 AM
Game Schuettler 2-1* :(

jogoss_78
02-24-2005, 11:32 AM
now break him rainer

Five
02-24-2005, 11:32 AM
2bps wasted, not a good sign :(

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:33 AM
Misha 15-15

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Misha, make it faster!!!!

canuckman
02-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Lose this set Misha, then win it in the 3rd set, i make more money

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Misha 30-15

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:34 AM
Misha 40-15

Tommy, 'The Tit'
02-24-2005, 11:34 AM
c'mon Mihail...you are not "kosolapii"

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:35 AM
Misha 40-30

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:36 AM
Game Misha 2-2*

harvey
02-24-2005, 11:36 AM
tommy the tit...welcome..brilliant

Five
02-24-2005, 11:36 AM
break him Misha :shout:

KING
02-24-2005, 11:38 AM
C'MONN MISHA MAKE HIM TRASH!! :devil:

okt8
02-24-2005, 11:39 AM
Go Go Schüttler!

bad gambler
02-24-2005, 11:41 AM
misha breaks

3-2

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Davai, Misha!!!!!!

Five
02-24-2005, 11:42 AM
misha breaks

3-2
:bounce::bounce:

bad gambler
02-24-2005, 11:42 AM
u can follow scores here if u like, i'm off to bed :)

http://www.ebolibet.com/tennislive.htm

KING
02-24-2005, 11:42 AM
Raineerr!! :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

Fergie
02-24-2005, 11:42 AM
Hold now Misha!!!

ivendar
02-24-2005, 11:44 AM
GO GO MISHA

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:46 AM
30-40........

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:46 AM
Hold it, Misha, hold it!!!!!!

bad gambler
02-24-2005, 11:46 AM
bp schuettler

30-40

okt8
02-24-2005, 11:47 AM
jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

jetz get los

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:47 AM
3-3! Incredible.......

Come on RAINER!!!

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:47 AM
Hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's up dude???????
Misha, do something!!!

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:48 AM
0-15 :mad:

Five
02-24-2005, 11:48 AM
damn :mad:

Fergie
02-24-2005, 11:48 AM
Break again Misha!!!

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:48 AM
15-30 break him!!!!

Five
02-24-2005, 11:49 AM
break again Misha :shout:

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:49 AM
2 bp, dont blow it!!!
15-40

jogoss_78
02-24-2005, 11:49 AM
now hold schuttler :boxing:

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:49 AM
2 bp! how stupid :mad:

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:50 AM
30-40---------

Five
02-24-2005, 11:50 AM
take one of these Misha ;)

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:50 AM
Deuce :)

jogoss_78
02-24-2005, 11:51 AM
adv rainer :)

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:51 AM
4-3 Rainer!!!

Come on!!!

Five
02-24-2005, 11:51 AM
Misha :smash:

Dirk
02-24-2005, 11:51 AM
Misha come on kill him.

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:51 AM
Rainer 4-3

Tommy, 'The Tit'
02-24-2005, 11:51 AM
Russia!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:52 AM
Misha 15-00

Fergie
02-24-2005, 11:52 AM
Hold Misha!!!

marcelwks
02-24-2005, 11:52 AM
fisht Rajner

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:52 AM
Misha 30-00

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:53 AM
Misha 40-00

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:53 AM
Game Youzhny 4-4*

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:53 AM
*40-00

nathan
02-24-2005, 11:54 AM
Julio is beck...

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:54 AM
Misha 40-00

:rolleyes:

Five
02-24-2005, 11:54 AM
a love game ;)

Tommy, 'The Tit'
02-24-2005, 11:54 AM
Misha break please...

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:55 AM
Rainer 15-30

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:55 AM
4-4 15-15

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:55 AM
Rainer 30-30

Fergie
02-24-2005, 11:56 AM
Break now Misha!!!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:56 AM
Rainer 30-40

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:57 AM
deuce

Five
02-24-2005, 11:57 AM
take this Misha ;)

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:57 AM
adv Misha

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:57 AM
Rainer 30-40

Oh no...

Five
02-24-2005, 11:58 AM
Misha so many chances missed :smash:

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:58 AM
Let's go Misha, let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:58 AM
break misha 5*-4 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Five
02-24-2005, 11:58 AM
yeah now serve out for the match Misha ;)

gcd8
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
let's finish this guy off please!!!!!!

Spielberg1
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
WHY WHY WHY :mad:

Tommy, 'The Tit'
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
pleasy win it 75 64 i need under 23 and your win

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
Yessssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*5-4

Fergie
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
Yes!!!!! :banana:

Hold now Misha!!!

Julio
02-24-2005, 11:59 AM
Misha 00-15 (df)

Julio
02-24-2005, 12:00 PM
Misha 15-15 (ace)

jogoss_78
02-24-2005, 12:00 PM
:rolleyes: rainer :rolleyes:

Julio
02-24-2005, 12:00 PM
Misha 15-30 ( 2nd df)

Julio
02-24-2005, 12:01 PM
Misha 30-30

Five
02-24-2005, 12:01 PM
damn df :banghead:

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 12:01 PM
Hold your serve Misha!!!!
c'mon!
*15-30

Julio
02-24-2005, 12:02 PM
Misha 40-30 (mp)

MrOschie
02-24-2005, 12:02 PM
^^

junekidd
02-24-2005, 12:02 PM
Misha... finish it now!!! :smash:

Julio
02-24-2005, 12:02 PM
game set and match Mishaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !!!

Five
02-24-2005, 12:02 PM
take this mp Misha :bowdown:
ace him :bowdown:

gcd8
02-24-2005, 12:03 PM
SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!

Mario66
02-24-2005, 12:03 PM
Well done Misha! Congrats!

Five
02-24-2005, 12:03 PM
Misha :woohoo::woohoo:

Fergie
02-24-2005, 12:04 PM
Well done Misha!!!! :banana:

junekidd
02-24-2005, 12:04 PM
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
well done Misha!!! :D

Tommy, 'The Tit'
02-24-2005, 12:04 PM
o misha? i jerk-off///thanx u r the best)))

TheBoiledEgg
02-24-2005, 12:05 PM
Misha :woohoo: :banana: :D :)

sonatinca
02-24-2005, 12:07 PM
Congrats, Misha! Finally you did it!
:bounce::bounce::bounce:

KING
02-24-2005, 12:07 PM
Juzny=REAL MONEY!!! :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

Filipo
02-24-2005, 12:08 PM
what's happening with LJUBICIC ?

gary
02-24-2005, 12:14 PM
Misha :D :woohoo: :yeah:

Mathi
02-24-2005, 12:26 PM
Tomas BERDYCH (CZE) / Nicolas KIEFER (GER) 7 6
Leander PAES (IND) / Nenad ZIMONJIC (SCG) 6 2

MrOschie
02-24-2005, 12:26 PM
grml again WTA on Eurosport damn it

Filipo
02-24-2005, 12:29 PM
grml again WTA on Eurosport damn it
Eurosport will cover one of the semifinal in Saturday (maybe LIVE). till then no ATP on Eurosport.

krotor
02-24-2005, 12:30 PM
Has the Ljublicic match started?

nakadashi
02-24-2005, 12:38 PM
cummon verdasco

harvey
02-24-2005, 12:54 PM
whats the story - rain?

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 12:56 PM
come on Ljubo!!

Neely
02-24-2005, 01:05 PM
VAMOS Fernando! :yeah:
show some form, would be about time!

Neely
02-24-2005, 01:06 PM
grml again WTA on Eurosport damn it
damn these idiots :banghead: :banghead:
:fiery:

nakadashi
02-24-2005, 01:10 PM
cummon verdasco

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 01:10 PM
ivan 1-0

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:12 PM
Ivan 1-0*

go ivan

Mane
02-24-2005, 01:12 PM
go Ljubo

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 01:13 PM
lets go Ljubacyc !

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:13 PM
come on Ljubo!!

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:14 PM
Ivan 2-0 :D

keep going Ivan!!

Björki
02-24-2005, 01:15 PM
vamos Verdasco :bounce:

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:18 PM
Ivan 3-0 :)

go Ivan!

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:18 PM
break again Ivan;)

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:19 PM
Ivan LJUBICIC (CRO) vs Fernando VERDASCO (ESP) 3-0*

keep going Ivan:)

Mane
02-24-2005, 01:20 PM
win it for Ante Gotovina Ivan!!!

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:21 PM
win it for Ante Gotovina Ivan!!!

:worship: :yeah:

Neely
02-24-2005, 01:23 PM
what a stupid kid Verdasco is this season :rolleyes:
nothing but 1st and 2nd round losses where he has basically no chance at all

match over after 15 minutes...

croat123
02-24-2005, 01:27 PM
ajmo ivane :yeah:

krotor
02-24-2005, 01:28 PM
go Ljubo..

Deivid23
02-24-2005, 01:31 PM
what a stupid kid Verdasco is this season :rolleyes:
nothing but 1st and 2nd round losses where he has basically no chance at all

match over after 15 minutes...

You said it all, pity he wastes his huge talent :rolleyes:

Neely
02-24-2005, 01:31 PM
scoreboard seems stuck again.... :o

RaVeR
02-24-2005, 01:32 PM
RAIN DELAYED:fiery:

go Ljubo!

Neely
02-24-2005, 01:32 PM
You said it all, pity he wastes his huge talent :rolleyes:
I have the feeling talent-wise he is huger than Nadal
but Nadal could deliver better so far

Neely
02-24-2005, 01:34 PM
RAIN DELAYED:fiery:

go Ljubo!
oh damn it!!! :banghead:
rain rain... aren't February/March the month when it rains most in Dubai? hopefully that's not taking too long :shrug:

croat123
02-24-2005, 01:37 PM
:fiery:

Deivid23
02-24-2005, 01:38 PM
I have the feeling talent-wise he is huger than Nadal
but Nadal could deliver better so far

Yeah that´s a big truth. Potentially, he´s the best young player in Spain and probably one of the best in the world, but I have had always the feeling that his brain won´t allow him to reach top10 and it looks that I´ll be right :rolleyes:

Deivid23
02-24-2005, 01:39 PM
I have the feeling talent-wise he is huger than Nadal
but Nadal could deliver better so far

The thing that makes Nadal the best young player in the world is his mind. Since Hewitt I never saw something similar.

Bilbo
02-24-2005, 01:47 PM
tennis is a half brain and a half talent sport and if your brain doesn't work nothing you can do against

Dirk
02-24-2005, 01:48 PM
Nah Roger was the most gifted young player I've ever seen. Him and Rios.

krotor
02-24-2005, 01:50 PM
Rios was very talented, but his mind often boiled over...

Deivid23
02-24-2005, 01:50 PM
tennis is a half brain and a half talent sport and if your brain doesn't work nothing you can do against

well said, mate

Dirk
02-24-2005, 01:51 PM
Where does brawn fit into all of this?

nakadashi
02-24-2005, 01:58 PM
Where does brawn fit into all of this?

Marat???

Dirk
02-24-2005, 02:02 PM
No I mean into tennis generally.

MrOschie
02-24-2005, 02:02 PM
go ljubi =)

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:03 PM
LJUBICIC WON!!!

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:04 PM
6:1, 6:1

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:04 PM
Ljubicic def. Verdasco 6-1, 6-1

Dirk
02-24-2005, 02:05 PM
Great now get the next match on already. Lubby is having a very nice year. I hope he can nab a title.

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:05 PM
:bolt:

Deivid23
02-24-2005, 02:07 PM
Ljubicic def. Verdasco 6-1, 6-1

Same result as Lisnard, Fernando, you should be ashamed :rolleyes:

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:08 PM
bad joke !

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:09 PM
THERE IS NO JOKE!

LJUBICIC WON IN TWO 6-1, 6-1

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:10 PM
whre You find this score? its mistake he beat 6-1 6-1 Lisnard not Verdasco

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:10 PM
i see on live 4-1

krotor
02-24-2005, 02:10 PM
it still says posponed on livescore.com

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:11 PM
Soo pleas give me link to this score

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:11 PM
I saw at the German TV - 6:1, 6:1 against VERDASCO (not Lisnard)

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:12 PM
damn

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:12 PM
It was mistake im 99% sure about it

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Soo pleas gibe me link to this score

El Legenda
02-24-2005, 02:13 PM
he should been down by now...he played 2nd match from 2pm..its like7pm over there now

oehb
02-24-2005, 02:13 PM
Update on Andreev, please? :)

krotor
02-24-2005, 02:13 PM
must be...now says Ljubo 4-1 on livescore.com

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:14 PM
It was mistake im 99% sure about it

nice to know, but what will do if there no joke???

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:14 PM
what will you do?

krotor
02-24-2005, 02:15 PM
if it's true i'll be very happy..:-)

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:15 PM
Ljuba 4-2 so it was wrong for sure !

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:16 PM
http://www.dubaitennischampionships.com/

El Legenda
02-24-2005, 02:16 PM
Ljuba 4-2 so it was wrong for sure !

where u watching it at

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:16 PM
zenekk told me that he is the best !

Ptbs
02-24-2005, 02:16 PM
update on andreev plz ?

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:16 PM
I am watching Andreev LIVE

and the Commentator has said Ljubicic is playing on Court One
and Leads 4 1

HE HAS NOT WON YET


maybe a stupid commentator!?

on which channel are you watching andreev live?

Ptbs
02-24-2005, 02:17 PM
it's live on eurosport Henman - Andreev ;)

Corey Feldman
02-24-2005, 02:18 PM
stay away rain :rolleyes:
go tim

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:18 PM
on Eurosport 2 Andreev match

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:18 PM
Andreev 1-1

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:19 PM
and which channel shows the ljubicic match?

nakadashi
02-24-2005, 02:19 PM
CUMMON NANDO... LJUBO GO HOME.. PLAY DAVIS CUP

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:19 PM
Ljuba 4-2 so it was wrong for sure !


4-2 interesting :eek:

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:20 PM
Ljubicic 4-3* :(

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:20 PM
4-3 Ljubicic

nakadashi
02-24-2005, 02:20 PM
CUMMON NANDO.... I KNOW LOPEZ ALREADY LOSE.. DUN BE A LAMER AND JUST BECAUSE UR GAY LOVER LOSE U ALSO WANNA LOSE!!

Five
02-24-2005, 02:21 PM
Go Igor :bounce:

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:21 PM
for everybody...

please take a look at this link...

http://www.ard-text.de/videotext/index.html?tafel=223

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:22 PM
damn it :fiery: break him again ivan!!

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:22 PM
Der ARD-Text ist nicht gerade unfehlbar. ;-)

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:23 PM
it has to be a mistake tho...

Corey Feldman
02-24-2005, 02:23 PM
Somebody keep giving Henman scores!!
thanks :angel:

misyou25
02-24-2005, 02:23 PM
why a mistake?

yamakawa
02-24-2005, 02:23 PM
Der ARD-Text ist nicht gerade unfehlbar. ;-)

Mag sein, aber 6-1, 6-1 steht nunmal da & da habe ich keineswegs scheiße erzählt!

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:23 PM
Ljuba 4-4 eeeeeeh

El Legenda
02-24-2005, 02:24 PM
Last year in one match people didnt know what the deal was with the score, so they called the Tounry...who's gonna do it lol...u can find the # on the website.

Aguante_el_Gato
02-24-2005, 02:25 PM
for everybody...

please take a look at this link...

http://www.ard-text.de/videotext/index.html?tafel=223
Maybe they take the scores from here

misyou25
02-24-2005, 02:25 PM
lol...6-1 6-1

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:25 PM
Mag sein, aber 6-1, 6-1 steht nunmal da & da habe ich keineswegs scheiße erzählt!

Klar, ist nicht dein Fehler, aber die haben wohl tatsächlich das Ergebnis von Ljubicic-Lisnard übernommen.

nakadashi
02-24-2005, 02:25 PM
CUMMON NANDO

Deivid23
02-24-2005, 02:26 PM
Phew, glad he didn´t get crushed, keep it up Fer, show what you are made of once in the year!

Corey Feldman
02-24-2005, 02:27 PM
henman back to BLOWING more break points...
ohh what a day comign up

Five
02-24-2005, 02:28 PM
Davai Igor :bounce:

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:28 PM
Ljuba 5-4*

krotor
02-24-2005, 02:28 PM
c'mon Ljubo..break back!!

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:28 PM
break him now ivan!!!

Horatio Caine
02-24-2005, 02:30 PM
Good sign that Tim is forcing break points...a little disappoining he can't them though.

harvey
02-24-2005, 02:32 PM
2/2 henman - love game

happy928
02-24-2005, 02:32 PM
go henman! break him now...

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:33 PM
Andreev 3-2*

harvey
02-24-2005, 02:34 PM
3/2 andreev

happy928
02-24-2005, 02:34 PM
damn, that was a quick game

Horatio Caine
02-24-2005, 02:34 PM
Come on Tim!!

Horatio Caine
02-24-2005, 02:35 PM
Come on Ivan!!!

Five
02-24-2005, 02:36 PM
break him Igor

Corey Feldman
02-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Russians are too good for Henman... Youzhny, safin and Davydenko have all spanked him lately :rolleyes:

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Ljub. *5-5

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:37 PM
Ljuba 6-5*

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:37 PM
no, 6-5*

El Legenda
02-24-2005, 02:38 PM
Russians are too good for Henman... Youzhny, safin and Davydenko have all spanked him lately :rolleyes:

add the Croatians to that list..in last 3, he's 0-3 0-2 vs Ivan 0-1Mario

LESAK
02-24-2005, 02:38 PM
C´mon Andreev!!! You cannot lose to an inconsistent guy like Henman!!!

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:39 PM
break him to take the set ivan!!

Five
02-24-2005, 02:39 PM
scoreboard :help:

Corey Feldman
02-24-2005, 02:39 PM
add the Croatians to that list..in last 3, he's 0-3 0-2 vs Ivan 0-1Mario
He did beat Karlovic at the 'open!

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:40 PM
add the Croatians to that list..in last 3, he's 0-3 0-2 vs Ivan 0-1Mario
0-4 :p

u forgot mario's win at wimbledon :devil:

Juanito
02-24-2005, 02:40 PM
6-6 and 3-3

croat123
02-24-2005, 02:40 PM
He did beat Karlovic at the 'open!
yes, but ivo is :retard: and that was in 5 sets

El Legenda
02-24-2005, 02:40 PM
He did beat Karlovic at the 'open!

He does not count...He plays for the Republic of Tall People Who Can't Break.

LESAK
02-24-2005, 02:41 PM
He does not count...He plays for the Republic of Tall People Who Can't Break.

;) ;)

Horatio Caine
02-24-2005, 02:42 PM
add the Croatians to that list..in last 3, he's 0-3 0-2 vs Ivan 0-1Mario

That is going to have to change tomorrow (I hope Henman wins today) :devil:

Horatio Caine
02-24-2005, 02:43 PM
He does not count...He plays for the Republic of Tall People Who Can't Break.

:haha: :haha:

Five
02-24-2005, 02:44 PM
Andreev/Henman score plz :smooch:

Corey Feldman
02-24-2005, 02:44 PM
karlovic broke Henman once in that match :tape:
shows how bad Henman is these days ;)

JankoJanko
02-24-2005, 02:44 PM
Andreev 4-3*

Horatio Caine
02-24-2005, 02:44 PM
He does not count...He plays for the Republic of Tall People Who Can't Break.

Break his legs and file off 8 inches of his legs. Then he'd have an oversized body and oversized arms. Eh well...you'll have to put off with really lanky Ivo then! ;)