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Why is coria playing in Marseille?

Bilbo
02-06-2005, 10:34 PM
Instead in his own country on clay where he has to defend a title. I don't get this. :confused:

mitalidas
02-06-2005, 10:50 PM
$$

Bilbo
02-06-2005, 10:53 PM
not if he lose early, this is the wrong preparation for the frenchh open mr. coria :rolleyes:

Yashirobai
02-06-2005, 10:56 PM
I remember reading somewhere Coria saying something like "it's a tough decision for me, I like the Buenos Aires toournament a lot, but I want to be a complete player and get some more experience from indoor, indoor european tournemanets".

Chloe le Bopper
02-06-2005, 10:59 PM
That sentiment is similar to what he's been saying for quite a while now. It's lose-lose on this board for Coria. If he plays and wins Buenos Aires, people whine that he's stacking up his ranking with clay court tournaments (he has, afterall, played FOUR - count them! FOUR! - clay court tournaments in the last year. I can understand the irritation!). If he doesn't do it, they complain.

Old news :)

El Legenda
02-06-2005, 11:11 PM
not if he lose early, this is the wrong preparation for the frenchh open mr. coria :rolleyes:

guaranteed money meaning he gets it just for showing up.

Rogiman
02-06-2005, 11:51 PM
That sentiment is similar to what he's been saying for quite a while now. It's lose-lose on this board for Coria. If he plays and wins Buenos Aires, people whine that he's stacking up his ranking with clay court tournaments (he has, afterall, played FOUR - count them! FOUR! - clay court tournaments in the last year. I can understand the irritation!). If he doesn't do it, they complain.

Old news :)

$$ :rolleyes:

Raquel
02-06-2005, 11:56 PM
not if he lose early, this is the wrong preparation for the frenchh open mr. coria :rolleyes:
I doubt he would use a clay event in February to prepare for the French Open which starts in the last week of May.

Is this week's event the only event in Argentina for the whole year?

LiZpHaIr
02-07-2005, 12:03 AM
MONEY PEOPLE! YOU NEED IT TO LIVE!

Rogiman
02-07-2005, 12:06 AM
MONEY PEOPLE! YOU NEED IT TO LIVE!

I like it when people find the truth impossible to accept...

$$$

LiZpHaIr
02-07-2005, 12:07 AM
Maybe they aren't familiar with these--$$

Scotso
02-07-2005, 12:17 AM
Yeah you need money to live, but some how I don't think Coria is without.

I think both he and Nalbandian should be playing in Argentina on their best surface.

Becca, who cares if they are "padding" their ranking with their favorite surface? Everyone does that.

Havok
02-07-2005, 12:43 AM
All clay events not played during the clay season should be either a) moved, or b)removed completely. Personally, I think this is the better choice for Coria. When we're in the indoor/hardcourt season don't waste time on another surface only to get off of it the very next week. It's dumb. Get accustomed to the surface you'll be playing on for a while right away, you don't want to lag behind the rest of the top ranked players, who pretty much follow the surfaces properly.

sigmagirl91
02-07-2005, 01:12 AM
Instead in his own country on clay where he has to defend a title. I don't get this. :confused:

Marseille offers more points, and Coria supposedly wants to show his versatility on other surfaces.

sigmagirl91
02-07-2005, 01:13 AM
I think both he and Nalbandian should be playing in Argentina on their best surface.

Hello, Karol, clay is not David's best surface. His game is better suited to faster surfaces the last time we checked.

Scotso
02-07-2005, 01:17 AM
Could have fooled me.

sigmagirl91
02-07-2005, 01:29 AM
Could have fooled me.


And it should have. Just because David's South American, doesn't automatically make him a clay court specialist, anymore than Hewitt being Australian makes him a grass court specialist.

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2005, 03:04 AM
I like it when people find the truth impossible to accept...

$$$

I like when people make responses like this, that have nothing to do with anything that anybody in the thread had to say. Who denied it was at least in part about money? :)

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2005, 03:05 AM
Yeah you need money to live, but some how I don't think Coria is without.

I think both he and Nalbandian should be playing in Argentina on their best surface.

Nalbandia's best surface is an indoor hardcourt ;)

Becca, who cares if they are "padding" their ranking with their favorite surface? Everyone does that.

Ask the people who go on about it incessantly... I don't have a problem with it. I've just noticed that it's only not okay when Coria does it, when in fact, he doesn't even do it :)

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2005, 03:06 AM
All clay events not played during the clay season should be either a) moved, or b)removed completely. Personally, I think this is the better choice for Coria. When we're in the indoor/hardcourt season don't waste time on another surface only to get off of it the very next week. It's dumb. Get accustomed to the surface you'll be playing on for a while right away, you don't want to lag behind the rest of the top ranked players, who pretty much follow the surfaces properly.

You're right, this SA clay swing is a hideous idea. I don't know what they were thinking when they made it!

Seriously, the calender is fucked up. However, until you complain about the fact that the hardcourt season barely ever ends, me thinks you lack objectivity here ;)

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2005, 03:08 AM
Could have fooled me.
Well, considering he's performed equally well at the USO and RG, made masters finals on clay, indoors, and outdoor hardcourt, and won a clay and carpet title... I'm not sure how you looked at that and thought that clay was his best surface. It's not. He's good on it, but it's not his best.

Action Jackson
02-07-2005, 04:02 AM
All clay events not played during the clay season should be either a) moved, or b)removed completely. Personally, I think this is the better choice for Coria. When we're in the indoor/hardcourt season don't waste time on another surface only to get off of it the very next week. It's dumb. Get accustomed to the surface you'll be playing on for a while right away, you don't want to lag behind the rest of the top ranked players, who pretty much follow the surfaces properly.

So tennis should only be in played in certain places? Last time I looked and noticed that tennis is an international sport and that means it should be played on every continent and South America deserves not to be neglected in this regard considering that there are quite a lot of players from the continent doing well at the moment.

Keep it only in Europe and North America, great thinking.

Chloe le Bopper
02-07-2005, 05:14 AM
The SA clay swing was actually a fantastic idea, IMO. It might not make sense where it was placed on the calender, but in general... it works.

Action Jackson
02-07-2005, 05:15 AM
The SA clay swing was actually a fantastic idea, IMO. It might not make sense where it was placed on the calender, but in general... it works.

I know it's a great idea, the timing is a problem. It used to be played at the end of the year, but that didn't work that well and since there isn't a harmonisation process between the surfaces, it will have this problem.

Cervantes
02-07-2005, 08:06 AM
We've already had this discussion about Coria in another thread and it seems the reason he's playing Marseille is that he already signed for it last year, when Buenos Aires was still played the week before, so he didn't know both tournaments would be at the same time.

As for the calender and the placement of these SA clay tournaments, I've made an alternate calender with a larger off-season and no overlaps between continents:

Jan-1 regular tournaments Australia/Asia
Jan-2 regular tournaments Australia/Asia TMS
Jan-3 regular tournaments Australia/Asia
Jan-4 Australian Open
Feb-1 Australian Open
Feb-2 Davis Cup
Feb-3 European Indoor Circuit
Feb-4 European Indoor Circuit
Mar-1 European Indoor Circuit TMS
Mar-2 European Indoor Circuit
Mar-3 European Indoor Circuit TMS
Mar-4 Davis Cup
Mar-5 South American clay tournaments
Apr-1 South American clay tournaments TMS
Apr-2 European clay season
Apr-3 European clay season
Apr-4 European clay season TMS
May-1 European clay season
May-2 European clay season TMS
May-3 European clay season
May-4 Roland Garros
Jun-1 Roland Garros
Jun-2 grass court season
Jun-3 grass court season
Jun-4 Wimbledon
Jun-5 Wimbledon
Jul-1 Davis Cup
Jul-2 US Hardcourt Season
Jul-3 US Hardcourt Season
Jul-4 US Hardcourt Season TMS
Aug-1 US Hardcourt Season
Aug-2 US Hardcourt Season TMS
Aug-3 US Hardcourt Season
Aug-4 US Hardcourt Season TMS
Sep-1 US Hardcourt Season
Sep-2 US Open
Sep-3 US Open
Sep-4
Sep-5
Okt-1 Tennis Masters Cup
Okt-2 Davis Cup Final
Okt-3 off-season
Okt-4 off-season
Nov-1 off-season
Nov-2 off-season
Nov-3 off-season
Nov-4 off-season
Dec-1 off-season
Dec-2 off-season
Dec-3 off-season
Dec-4 off-season
Dec-5 off-season

RPH
02-07-2005, 02:40 PM
Like I said in the other thread he wants a 1R loss.

I'm bored with hating Coria on this board. It's so much more fun bitching and annoying posters in Non tennis/Polls threads :)

MagoRG
02-07-2005, 02:54 PM
Hello, Karol, clay is not David's best surface. His game is better suited to faster surfaces the last time we checked.
:) :)

Julio1974
02-07-2005, 03:57 PM
Coria does not only play well on clay. He reached the final in MS Miami, he won in Basilea, he reached QF in the US Open. Of course, he is not likely to win in Australia or in the US Open, but he plays much better on those surface than Roddick on clay.
And concering Nalbandian, I think it's clear he plays much better on other surfaces than on clay (despite his performance last year in RG, which I don't think he is going to repeat)

fco253
02-07-2005, 05:21 PM
Coria signed a multi-year contract to play in Marseille, when he signed it, this tourney wasn't played in the same week as Buenos Aires...

I still think Coria should have chosen to play the SA clay swing starting here, it could allow him to make him huge chunk of optionals points (he can get 500 easily, that's a full TMS), and then use the optional weeks later in the season as rest if needed...

*Ljubica*
02-07-2005, 05:28 PM
I don't like Coria at all, but I admire his decision to come here to Marseille instead of taking the easy option. To be respected as a great player you have to be successful on all surfaces and be prepared to play outside of your "comfort zone" - he has chosen to do that, and even though I don't like him I respect his decision.

Jenrios
02-07-2005, 06:49 PM
It's a shame that after struggling to get a tour going in S America, players such as Coria and Nalbandian won't support it. Plus, of course, the local fans who support them miss out on the chance to see them. IMO, I'd put it down to guarantees as well.

rue
02-07-2005, 08:10 PM
He probably has good reasons why did so.