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Russian debut

Coleburg83
02-02-2005, 05:31 AM
"Teimuraz Gabashvili, a 19-year-old Russian playing his first-ever match on center court, upset James Blake in the first round of the Millennium International Tennis Championship"

Another great showing by James Blake.

BTW, when's the last time a player ranked #135 in the world got featured as one of the few pictures on the website main page?

Good trivia question.

I'd love to see how they pronounce his name.

Leena
02-02-2005, 05:33 AM
Hingis, unranked, this week.

And Pornikova, just about every week.

Action Jackson
02-02-2005, 05:34 AM
Pronounce it as it's spelt but that would be too logical.

I have seen him play challengers and he lost to Baghdatis in qualies at the Aus Open. A baseliner, he likes pace and his forehand is his best shot.

Coleburg83
02-02-2005, 05:35 AM
Leena, I of course mean that isn't a slam winner on a comeback or a player coming back from injury.

When was the last time Kournikova during her playing career was #135? She was always at least mid-level.

Leena
02-02-2005, 05:36 AM
We Russians have to make things difficult.

No American has ever pronounced Myskina or Bovina correctly.

Leena
02-02-2005, 05:38 AM
Leena, I of course mean that isn't a slam winner on a comeback or a player coming back from injury.

When was the last time Kournikova during her playing career was #135? She was always at least mid-level.
She didn't fall to 135 range while she was still playing... except for maybe the couple challengers at the end.

But, she's still on tournament sites despite being gone for 2 years.

That's why I'm glad I've moved on from the dirty women's game.

Action Jackson
02-02-2005, 05:39 AM
We Russians have to make things difficult.

No American has ever pronounced Myskina or Bovina correctly.

Why does that not surprise me.

Then again this guy is of Georgian descent with a last name like that.

Leena
02-02-2005, 05:40 AM
Why does that not surprise me.

Then again this guy is of Georgian descent with a last name like that.
I didn't vote for Bush. Don't discriminate me.

Leena
02-02-2005, 05:40 AM
I apologize for my drastic off-topicness in this thread. Carry on.

Coleburg83
02-02-2005, 05:41 AM
So do you know this Russian, Leena?

Does he have any hype over there?

Can't really tell much by beating James Blake these days, he's not even one of the top 10 American players.

That's too bad you didn't vote for Bush Leena, most of your compatriots seemed to prefer him to the French candidate. :)

Experimentee
02-02-2005, 01:27 PM
Blake is pretty inconsistent. Goes from nearly beating Hewitt to losing to this guy :rolleyes:
But who knows maybe Gabashvili was playing the match of his life.

TheBoiledEgg
02-02-2005, 01:33 PM
:woohoo: Teimuraz :D :)

gsm
02-02-2005, 01:39 PM
That's too bad you didn't vote for Bush Leena, most of your compatriots seemed to prefer him to the French candidate. :)

:lol:

Frooty_Bazooty
02-02-2005, 01:43 PM
We Russians have to make things difficult.

No American has ever pronounced Myskina or Bovina correctly.

is myskina? - miss~keena
and bovina? - boh~veena

PaulieM
02-02-2005, 02:01 PM
poor james :sad:

tangerine_dream
02-02-2005, 05:24 PM
Marat mania has taken hold of the world. Here's an article about the lack of Russian men in tennis (I wish someone would write an article about the appalling lack of top US men in tennis, too.) .....

CAN SAFIN SPARK ANOTHER RUSSIAN REVOLUTION?

Russia's legion of top female tennis players each have their well-documented tale of childhood hardship and long-distance sacrifice to tell.

Young stars led by Wimbledon champion Maria Sharapova are frequently called upon to document the reasons for the hunger which has swept no fewer than 15 Russian girls into the world's top 100.

Until Marat Safin's Australian Open win last week reminded everybody of the exciting if infuriating talent he possesses, Russia's men were being well and truly overshadowed by their female counterparts.

Safin has often appeared uneasy inheriting the mantle of his nation's leading player from the former world number one and double Grand Slam champion Yevgeny Kafelnikov, who has not played on the ATP Tour since 2003.

But perhaps the manner of Safin's triumph, which equalled Kafelnikov's Grand Slam title haul after his initial success at the US Open in 2000, will spark a revolution amongst Russia's boys similar to that undergone by the girls after Anna Kournikova's publicity-seeking era.

Perhaps they need it. Behind Safin Russia numbers just four more male players in the current world top 100, and Kafelnikov's retirement has dramatically reduced their chances of repeating their 2002 Davis Cup success.

The 22-year-old Mikhail Youzhny is yet to fully grasp the chance to join Safin among the true elite, despite his famous come-from-behind victory in that Davis Cup decider against French youngster Paul-Henri Mathieu.

Youzhny and his compatriot Igor Andreev both know what it is like to experience the rarefied air of the fourth round of a Grand Slam, while world number 99 Dmitry Tursunov overcame Safin in the first round of last year's Wimbledon.

But the best prospect might be Nikolay Davydenko, the 23-year-old who began this year in fine style by reaching the quarter-finals of the Australian Open, beating Tim Henman along the way.

All have their typical tales of picking up a tennis racket in their early years and training hungrily to escape the poverty which surrounded them.

Davydenko moved with his family to Germany in his teens, Andreev to Spain while Tursunov seized his chance to base himself in California and is now in the process of applying for United States citizenship.

Tursunov explained: "I think a lot of Russian players preferred to train and travel outside of Russia simply because at that point it was a lot cheaper.

"We had to pay for indoor courts, outdoor courts, we had to pay for a lot of things. Russian salaries don't allow you to pay for these things.

"So my father decided it was best for me to go to California because it was a lot cheaper financially. So that is what I did, and that is why I am here now."

jmp
02-02-2005, 05:46 PM
:eek: Yay, Gabashvili! :clap2: More new blood! :D Keep working, James! :)

Originally posted by tangerine_dream
Marat mania has taken hold of the world. Here's an article about the lack of Russian men in tennis (I wish someone would write an article about the appalling lack of top US men in tennis, too.) .....

Thanks for the article, tangerine_dream. :) Do you think US tennis is trying to cover up their dirty little secret of no new prospects? I think USTA executives and ex-pros are scouting and scrambling all the time in hopes of avoiding an American drought.

CooCooCachoo
02-02-2005, 06:45 PM
Tom, I don't think that pronounciation you gave was correct. I have always heard Russians say Myskina like Mischkina (auf deutsch).

CooCooCachoo
02-02-2005, 06:45 PM
:eek: Yay, Gabashvili! :clap2: More new blood! :D Keep working, James! :)



Thanks for the article, tangerine_dream. :) Do you think US tennis is trying to cover up their dirty little secret of no new prospects? I think USTA executives and ex-pros are scouting and scrambling all the time in hopes of avoiding an American drought.

Uhm, Alex Kuznetsov, Scoville Jenkins, Brian Baker, Scott Oudsema, Mykyta Kryvonos, Rajeev Ram, Donald Young all have at least some potential.

tangerine_dream
02-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Uhm, Alex Kuznetsov, Scoville Jenkins, Brian Baker, Scott Oudsema, Mykyta Kryvonos, Rajeev Ram, Donald Young all have at least some potential.

I'm not talking about potential. Lots of successful juniors never make it on the pro tour.

jmp
02-02-2005, 08:02 PM
Yeah, I agree with tangerine_dream on this. Mardy has a very nice game. But, he can't seem to get a good head of steam. Maybe Todd can make a difference for him.

tripthemighty
02-02-2005, 10:56 PM
I think (hope) that 2004 was a wake-up call for the Americans. There was a lot of potential in the 'new generation', yet nothing materialized. Especially in the shadow of Federer's dominance. Maybe American arrogance will have paid off by pissing some of them off enough to spend the break really working on breaking back into the top.

Leena
02-03-2005, 06:31 AM
is myskina? - miss~keena
and bovina? - boh~veena
Wrong on both. :p

Myskina is a very tough one though...

Lady
02-03-2005, 07:07 AM
MY'-ski-na (only instead of Y we pronounce the sound that you don't have at all :p )

BO-vi-na

Lady
02-03-2005, 07:08 AM
And you don't even pronounce Sharapova correctly! ;)
It's Sha-RA-po-va! :p

Leena
02-03-2005, 05:03 PM
Yes... it's Meooskinah. :p

LiZpHaIr
02-03-2005, 08:12 PM
Bah...language.

MisterQ
02-03-2005, 08:17 PM
and the proper accent on Dementieva?

Foxy Smile
02-03-2005, 10:45 PM
and the proper accent on Dementieva?

Deme'ntieva :)

janks
02-04-2005, 01:58 PM
de-MEN-ti-eva (pronounced more like de-MEN-tyeva.. ye- like in YEllow)
ku-zne-TSO-va

jmp
02-04-2005, 02:46 PM
Did you all know that after Elena made the two finals last year she asked the American press to pronounce her name differently? This is how I recall hearing it phonetically:

de-men-CHE-va

Before then, they pronounced both the "i" and "e" vowels at the end of her name. That seems to be the way the previous posters have done it here. Do the Americans still have it wrong? I know they changed at Elena's request.

:wavey: Welcome to MTF, janks! :)