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The media think we are important

Jackie
02-01-2005, 10:00 AM
Have you seen the "Taking Sides" section of today's Herald Sun? [Pg.3]? Apparently many of us random message board people are considered important by the media. I'm just a nobody. Why do they want to quote me? LMAO

Jackie
02-01-2005, 10:06 AM
Sorry, for overseas people I should show you what they printed:

" Sorry, but I really don't believe it. He was meant to marry Kim in a week."

" I highly doubt Lleyton would propose if he wasn't sure and his parents would kill him if he proposed without thinking about it"

"They are so cute togetherand, I mean who wouldn't want to be with Lleyton?"

"If it was a serious relationship, you would never show each and every step to the whole world. He never did before."

"Seems Lleyton is a little more in favour of the term rebound than he would like people to believe"

"It seems that everyone in Australia, regardless of their thoughts on Bec or Kim, think this is much too soon"

I recognise most of these as quotes from this board

athie
02-01-2005, 10:11 AM
It’s not uncommon for researchers to trawls thro message boards to grasp ppl’s over all opinions/what’s going on etc…so dont be too surprised :) I’ve done it myself in the past.
Or am I just reinforcing some ppl's opinions of the fact, many of the media are clueless and unable to think for themselves :)

Jackie
02-01-2005, 10:17 AM
It’s not uncommon for researchers to trawls thro message boards to grasp ppl’s over all opinions/what’s going on etc…so dont be too surprised :) I’ve done it myself in the past.
Or am I just reinforcing some ppl's opinions of the fact, many of the media are clueless and unable to think for themselves :)

Not surprised. I already knew that this was common, but it's funny and I thought that overseas people who don't have access to this newspaper deserved to know that they were quoted. I agree with you that this is evidence that the media can't think for themselves

athie
02-01-2005, 10:22 AM
The comments you posted were much appreciated untitled2284 :D

Jackie
02-01-2005, 10:26 AM
Thank-you

jmp
02-01-2005, 11:11 AM
Thanks for sharing these quotes, untitled2284. :) We're making their jobs waaay too easy. ;)

wipeout
02-01-2005, 12:01 PM
Why go outside and ask the public when you can have a coffee and sit in the office and do it? :)

I think I remember reading about a couple of people with journalist passes for tournaments at the WTA board so maybe some members are journalists here as well.

I've seen TV station webpage news items take quotes from their website forums before as well.

WyveN
02-01-2005, 12:07 PM
No wonder 90% of tennis articles are utter crap.

Hagar
02-01-2005, 12:21 PM
Sorry, for overseas people I should show you what they printed:

" Sorry, but I really don't believe it. He was meant to marry Kim in a week."

" I highly doubt Lleyton would propose if he wasn't sure and his parents would kill him if he proposed without thinking about it"

"They are so cute togetherand, I mean who wouldn't want to be with Lleyton?"

"If it was a serious relationship, you would never show each and every step to the whole world. He never did before."

"Seems Lleyton is a little more in favour of the term rebound than he would like people to believe"

"It seems that everyone in Australia, regardless of their thoughts on Bec or Kim, think this is much too soon"

I recognise most of these as quotes from this board

I think we are often more knowledgeable about tennis than these journalists!

We should get paid for having our quotes used! :devil:

Dushenka
02-01-2005, 12:29 PM
These quotes are not evidence of the media being stupid. I think it's acutally a rather good thing that some journalits go "out there" and have a look at what people think. After all, you can't just write your own opinion all the time. It's a good thing to show other people's opinions as well...


smiles,
Dushenka

RodLo
02-01-2005, 12:39 PM
Hm, that's interesting...I never really would have thought they would do that. But hey, not a bad idea...most people here are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to anything tennis-related. I'm impressed, the media is finally doing something right. :yeah: :lol:

hablovah19
02-01-2005, 12:43 PM
Sorry, for overseas people I should show you what they printed:

" Sorry, but I really don't believe it. He was meant to marry Kim in a week."

" I highly doubt Lleyton would propose if he wasn't sure and his parents would kill him if he proposed without thinking about it"

"They are so cute togetherand, I mean who wouldn't want to be with Lleyton?"

"If it was a serious relationship, you would never show each and every step to the whole world. He never did before."

"Seems Lleyton is a little more in favour of the term rebound than he would like people to believe"

"It seems that everyone in Australia, regardless of their thoughts on Bec or Kim, think this is much too soon"

I recognise most of these as quotes from this board

Unbelievable! We should at least get some credit ;)

CooCooCachoo
02-01-2005, 01:10 PM
No wonder 90% of tennis articles are utter crap.

:rolls:

Experimentee
02-01-2005, 01:20 PM
I didnt read that Herald Sun. Did they print the quotes as if they made it up themselves, or did they pretend they went out and asked people?

tennischick
02-01-2005, 02:51 PM
the truth is that if you checked tennis boards from here to Siberia they'd all the saying the same things about the LleyBec Rebound.

but if we are indeed being quoted, it won't be the first time that the media have relied on an internet tennisboard for its material. that's the new journalism.

TheBoiledEgg
02-01-2005, 05:35 PM
has this appeared in any Argentinian papers either :tape:
we all know Worthless trawls these boards :wavey:
as does Bob Larson (he always manages to get ideas from topics on here or WTA world)

Pea
02-01-2005, 06:04 PM
Oooh...I never knew about Bob Larson! :wavey: Hey Bob Larson!

ae wowww
02-01-2005, 06:06 PM
We are important. We're amazin--better than the media

Chloe le Bopper
02-01-2005, 06:09 PM
No wonder 90% of tennis articles are utter crap.
:haha:

jtipson
02-01-2005, 06:15 PM
Pity Bob isn't as bothered about ATP as he is about the WTA...

jmp
02-01-2005, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by ae wowww jt fan
We are important. We're amazin--better than the media

:yeah:


WyveN :lol:

Leena
02-01-2005, 07:16 PM
It's not uncommon at all...

I've seen at some stuff written about Bovina, stolen from me on message boards.

adeegee
02-01-2005, 07:18 PM
leena is that you in your avatar thingy

Turkeyballs Paco
02-01-2005, 08:39 PM
wow, that's kind of scary. I'm going to need to stop being so catty about this Lleyton thing. :eek:

Jackie
02-02-2005, 12:04 AM
I didnt read that Herald Sun. Did they print the quotes as if they made it up themselves, or did they pretend they went out and asked people?

They did say these were comments from websites, but didn't print the source or our user names [so they were poorly sourced, but not plagiarised]. Personally, I don't care about being given credit. It was just a passing comment I made when I was barely awake...but I thought others here would like to know that they were quoted. If I see any other articles like this, I will continue to post them

Jackie
02-02-2005, 12:08 AM
wow, that's kind of scary. I'm going to need to stop being so catty about this Lleyton thing. :eek:

LOL. It's pretty hard not to be catty when a player is [I hope only temporarily] insane. Our comments have all expressed a similar view

Action Jackson
02-02-2005, 01:50 AM
Well if these media people search these boards, then they don't do a good job with the end product.

Action Jackson
02-02-2005, 01:51 AM
No wonder 90% of tennis articles are utter crap.

:haha: :haha:

I thought it was at least 98,5 %.

Armada~121
02-02-2005, 03:58 AM
well, personally I'm a journalist myself and I became a member here before I even became a journalist. So I don't think journalists checking out forums and quoting people are idiots. As said, sometimes here is the best place to get general comments from people. If we go out to ask people on the street, sometimes that is not good because they are not tennis fans and know nothing about tennis. Plus, the comments posted here are usually not self-conscious and pretty much uncensored. So we can be pretty sure it's an honest opinion (people usually contrive answers when knowing that they are interviewed for a newspaper). I think journalists coming to read messages here show how much they care for the public opinion and desire. A lot of journalists, from what I have seen, only care for their own opinions and pretty much look down on fans as inferior in terms of tennis knowledge. I dont think that's such a nice attitude and it usually ends up in bad articles u guys complain about.

So, to me, journalists who quote you guys should get more credits for at least taking public opinion into accounts. I didnt read that article myself so I wouldn't know how the writer incorporate the quotes into his/her writing. But, while quoting some posts as example of public opinion is fine, what shouldnt be done is using somebody else's words and claim them as your owns. Journalists who do that obviously cant think for themselves.

tennischick
02-02-2005, 04:16 AM
i think that Bob Larson gives faily decent coverage to both men's and women's tennis.

Action Jackson
02-02-2005, 04:25 AM
How many good tennis writers are there actually?

Leena
02-02-2005, 05:27 AM
None.

Tennis is a sport where there's no point in writing pieces because you have to dumb it down so much for the common sports fan who knows nothing... or, the writer doesn't know anything about tennis in the first place.

Action Jackson
02-02-2005, 05:35 AM
That answer doesn't surprise me Leena, then again even the ones that write in the specialist magazines aren't of the greatest standard.

Jackie
02-03-2005, 04:11 AM
Leena, I don't always agree with you, but we can always rely on you for an honest opinion

Leena
02-03-2005, 06:36 AM
Leena, I don't always agree with you, but we can always rely on you for an honest opinion
Thanks. :p

It's true though.

Let's say I'm writing an article on ESPN about women's tennis.

There's only a few things I can talk about:

1: Serena: She's really good. All those other pathetic players better hide, because Serena will kill them. Oh, and she's going to dress like a whore for another tournament. And she's black. What a fighter.

2: Sharapova: Wow, she's so hot! And she won Wimbledon. At 17. And won YEC. At 17. She's going to be the greatest player ever! Her and Serena will play each other 1242343 times. They are the best. Maria is part of the Russian Revolution with a bunch of players with -ova and -ina at the end of their name. And Maria is so hot! At 17.

End.

Jackie
02-03-2005, 07:06 AM
That really does read like a summary of a crappy article lol

Action Jackson
02-03-2005, 07:38 AM
Luckily for me I don't live in the US and have to put with banal crap like Leena described when it comes to commentary and articles like that. I mean the tennis media in the places I have been isn't great, but at least it's not ESPN or Worthless.

Jackie
02-03-2005, 12:04 PM
I'm in Australia and it's pretty trashy here. The same people who are idolised in one article are portrayed as arseholes on the next page

tangerine_dream
02-03-2005, 03:41 PM
No wonder 90% of tennis articles are utter crap.

We are the tennis reporters' go-to source. By extension, you're calling 90% of MTF utter crap. LOL. :lol:

khyber
02-03-2005, 04:01 PM
Thanks. :p

It's true though.

Let's say I'm writing an article on ESPN about women's tennis.

There's only a few things I can talk about:

1: Serena: She's really good. All those other pathetic players better hide, because Serena will kill them. Oh, and she's going to dress like a whore for another tournament. And she's black. What a fighter.

2: Sharapova: Wow, she's so hot! And she won Wimbledon. At 17. And won YEC. At 17. She's going to be the greatest player ever! Her and Serena will play each other 1242343 times. They are the best. Maria is part of the Russian Revolution with a bunch of players with -ova and -ina at the end of their name. And Maria is so hot! At 17.

End.That's scary in its accuracy :eek: .

Jackie
03-02-2005, 06:50 AM
We are the tennis reporters' go-to source. By extension, you're calling 90% of MTF utter crap. LOL. :lol:
I don't think anyone could honestly deny that 90% of this forum is "utter crap". We all know this. MTF is our own personal soap opera and gossip magazine rolled into one

El Legenda
03-02-2005, 06:58 AM
Unbelievable! We should at least get some credit ;)

you do..the quote you...u cant get paid for saying stuff on a board...no one owns the internet..so they can use what ever we type...yeah sure we have internet providers but no one owns it...all the credit you will get is a quote. ;)

Action Jackson
03-02-2005, 08:06 AM
I don't think anyone could honestly deny that 90% of this forum is "utter crap". We all know this. MTF is our own personal soap opera and gossip magazine rolled into one

Don't you mean 98,7% is crap?