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Most high seeds in slams

Litotes
04-03-2013, 08:50 AM
I did a quick oversight for which players have most often been seeded high in slams. We all know seeding is not the same as world ranking, still I found it interesting.

For this being given a seed is enough, you don't have to play. For instance, Nadal was #1 seed in Wimbledon 2009 as he withdrew after getting his seed. But he was not seeded for this years AO or last years USO.

The list is not complete, I did most of the players to reach #1 - dropping a couple with short careers - and added the best active players never to accomplish this feat. And it's Open Era only.

Most times as #1

Roger Federer 23
Pete Sampras 23
Ivan Lendl 18
Björn Borg 14
Rod Laver 11
John McEnroe 10
Jimmy Connors 9
Rafael Nadal 9
Novak Djokovic 8
Andre Agassi 7
Lleyton Hewitt 7
Stefan Edberg 6
Guillermo Vilas 5
Jim Courier 5
Ilie Nastase 4
John Newcombe 4
Gustavo Kuerten 3
Boris Becker 2
Ken Rosewall 2
Mats Wilander 1
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 1
Andy Roddick 1
Arthur Ashe 1
Marcelo Rios 1


What I find most interesting here is the fact that Borg, with 109 weeks as #1 to his name, was seeded #1 14 times. Connors, with 268 weeks, only 9 times. That is partly because he didn't play FO in many of his best years, but still...he was seeded #1 only three times in each of W and USO.


Most times in the top-2 (seeded for the final)


Roger Federer 32
Pete Sampras 29
Ivan Lendl 29
Rafael Nadal 29
Jimmy Connors 19
John McEnroe 19
Björn Borg 17
Andre Agassi 16
Stefan Edberg 16
Boris Becker 14
John Newcombe 13
Novak Djokovic 12
Rod Laver 11
Ilie Nastase 9
Ken Rosewall 9
Guillermo Vilas 8
Andy Roddick 8
Jim Courier 7
Mats Wilander 7
Lleyton Hewitt 7
Marat Safin 5
Gustavo Kuerten 5
Michael Chang 4
Marcelo Rios 3
Andy Murray 3
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 2
Arthur Ashe 2
Pat Rafter 2
Thomas Muster 1


Impressive here by Nadal, noone is close to his 20 #2 seeds.


Most times in the top-4 (seeded for the SF)

Roger Federer 41
Ivan Lendl 38
Pete Sampras 36
Jimmy Connors 34
Boris Becker 32
Stefan Edberg 32
Rafael Nadal 32
Andre Agassi 28
Novak Djokovic 27
John McEnroe 24
Guillermo Vilas 23
Björn Borg 22
Mats Wilander 22
Andy Murray 18
John Newcombe 16
Ken Rosewall 14
Lleyton Hewitt 13
Andy Roddick 13
Ilie Nastase 13
Arthur Ashe 13
Rod Laver 13
Jim Courier 11
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 11
Marat Safin 10
Pat Rafter 8
Michael Chang 7
Juan Carlos Ferrero 7
David Ferrer 7
Gustavo Kuerten 6
Nikolay Davydenko 6
Carlos Moya 4
Marcelo Rios 4
Thomas Muster 4
Guillermo Coria 2
Juan Martin del Potro 1


Federer has done all his 41 in a row.

Also, here we finally find Carlos Moya, historic as the only #1 never to have been seeded either #1, #2 or #3 in a slam.


Most times in the top-8 (seeded for the QF)

Roger Federer 47
Ivan Lendl 44
Pete Sampras 44
Andre Agassi 44
Boris Becker 42
Jimmy Connors 41
Stefan Edberg 38
Rafael Nadal 33
Andy Roddick 30
John McEnroe 29
Guillermo Vilas 29
Mats Wilander 28
Novak Djokovic 28
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 27
Björn Borg 25
Arthur Ashe 24
Michael Chang 22
Ilie Nastase 22
Andy Murray 22
John Newcombe 21
Lleyton Hewitt 20
Ken Rosewall 20
Nikolay Davydenko 17
David Ferrer 17
Jim Courier 16
Thomas Muster 14
Tomas Berdych 14
Rod Laver 13
Marat Safin 13
Carlos Moya 13
Juan Carlos Ferrero 12
Gustavo Kuerten 12
Pat Rafter 11
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 10
Guillermo Coria 10
Juan Martin del Potro 10
Marcelo Rios 5


Federer has now taken this record also.

Most times in the top-16

Ivan Lendl 52
Roger Federer 51
Andre Agassi 50
Jimmy Connors 48
Pete Sampras 47
Stefan Edberg 43
Boris Becker 42
Andy Roddick 38
Guillermo Vilas 33
Rafael Nadal 33
Michael Chang 32
Yevgeny Kafelnikov 32
John McEnroe 30
Mats Wilander 29
Novak Djokovic 29
Arthur Ashe 27
Andy Murray 26
Björn Borg 25
Lleyton Hewitt 25
David Ferrer 25
Tomas Berdych 25
Jim Courier 24
John Newcombe 24
Ilie Nastase 23
Ken Rosewall 22
Nikolay Davydenko 21
Carlos Moya 20
Marat Safin 18
Thomas Muster 18
Jo-Wilfried Tsonga 18
Gustavo Kuerten 16
Juan Carlos Ferrero 15
Pat Rafter 15
Rod Laver 14
Marcelo Rios 14
Juan Martin del Potro 13
Guillermo Coria 11

nole_no1
04-03-2013, 11:54 AM
I like how in the first list you put Murray with 0 :spit:

Newcomer
04-03-2013, 11:56 AM
Andre Agassi 7
Lleyton Hewitt 7
:facepalm:

Lopez
04-03-2013, 11:59 AM
Great work :yeah:. An interesting read for sure!

n8
04-03-2013, 12:07 PM
Thanks Litotes, I'm glad you posted this here instead of in the stats section.

Nice of you to give Moya a special mention. I noticed during his career he was often ranked 4-10 but only had one short somewhat lucky dip into the top 3, and that was during the Australian Open French Open Grand Slam fast.

GSMnadal
04-03-2013, 12:49 PM
Ivan Lendl 44
Pete Sampras 44
Andre Agassi 44
Roger Federer 43
Boris Becker 42
Jimmy Connors 41

The top 8 one I found the most interesting. A lot of players reaching the 40-44 number, but no one seem to be able to get past that. Federer might reach 50 I think

Litotes
04-03-2013, 01:00 PM
Ivan Lendl 44
Pete Sampras 44
Andre Agassi 44
Roger Federer 43
Boris Becker 42
Jimmy Connors 41

The top 8 one I found the most interesting. A lot of players reaching the 40-44 number, but no one seem to be able to get past that. Federer might reach 50 I think

I too noticed it was quite even at the top of this one. Of course, Lendl and - especially - Connors could have had more had they entered every slam. Connors was in the top-8 16 times at Wimbledon, 15 times at US Open, eight times at RG and just twice at the AO.

Litotes
04-03-2013, 01:02 PM
I can also mention highest amount of top seeds at the different slams:

AO: Lendl, 6 times
FO: Borg and Federer, 6 times
W: Sampras, 8 times
USO: Federer, 6 times

Pirata.
04-03-2013, 01:07 PM
Ivan Lendl 44
Pete Sampras 44
Andre Agassi 44
Roger Federer 43
Boris Becker 42
Jimmy Connors 41

The top 8 one I found the most interesting. A lot of players reaching the 40-44 number, but no one seem to be able to get past that. Federer might reach 50 I think

Same, this is the one where you see a lot of longevity with some places as well. Fed should break this by Wimbledon, but it's an impressive record for all these guys.

BroTree123
04-03-2013, 01:12 PM
Uh oh, Ferrer is mentioned.

fedalrock
04-03-2013, 06:37 PM
Nole has a fair chance to go high in those Semi's and Quarter's list! He has a good 3-4 years left, so he should go near Connors in both of these lists.:worship:

Federer's consistency is astonishing!40 consecutive:wavey:
Interesting stuff to read.

Kyle_Johansen
04-03-2013, 06:40 PM
I continue to marvel at Fed's consistency. 10 years in the top 4.

Litotes
04-03-2013, 07:08 PM
I continue to marvel at Fed's consistency. 10 years in the top 4.

He's still got a good shot at 10 years in the top-3, actually. He's got 38 straight as it is, and 3rd seed or better in RG and W would do the trick. He fell out of the top-3 in the rankings for a while in 2011 but no slams were played in that period.

New Balls Please
04-04-2013, 12:06 AM
Thanks for the list.
Regarding former #1s and other good players, could you add the stats for some of the following players:
Ferrero, Kuerten, Coria, Davydenko, Rafter, Rios and Muster?

atennisfan
04-04-2013, 04:28 AM
Great List and Great work!!


Federer did all his 39 in a row, and will get his 40th straight at RG, completing ten full years, unless he should be heavily outscored by Ferrer and Berdych or Del Potro goes on an absolute rampage in the clay season.

Just amazing. Federer is the epitome of Consistent Brilliance.


Also, here we finally find Carlos Moya, historic as the only #1 never to have been seeded either #1, #2 or #3 in a slam.



I didn't see other #1s such as Pat Rafter in your list.

hipolymer
04-04-2013, 04:57 AM
This list obviously doesn't take joke eras into account. If it did, everyone would have zero. :o

Litotes
04-04-2013, 07:32 AM
Thanks for the list.
Regarding former #1s and other good players, could you add the stats for some of the following players:
Ferrero, Kuerten, Coria, Davydenko, Rafter, Rios and Muster?

They are added :)

Caesar1844
04-04-2013, 08:55 AM
Names like Berdych and Ferrer stick out like sore thumbs in those lists.

Depressing that such mugs have so many latter round appearances in tournaments. Such a strong era have here.

New Balls Please
04-04-2013, 01:03 PM
They are added :)

Thanks. Some of the stats are quite interesting. For example, Rios only had 5 top-8 seedings, but 3 of those were top-2 seedings!

Litotes
06-21-2013, 07:55 PM
The charts in OP has been updated :)

Litotes
08-20-2013, 12:55 PM
I've updated again now that the USO seedings are out. I've also added a top-16. Lendl still tops this one with 52.

she_cruisin
08-20-2013, 07:34 PM
just goes to show whos the greatest out there.

Federer is clearly a force in all records.

There should not be any discussion at all.

Sapeod
08-20-2013, 07:45 PM
Nice to see Murray quite high when it comes to being seeded in the top 4. I expected that.

Roger is #1 in every category except the last one where he's #2 :lol: The GOAT strikes again.