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Nole Rules
03-31-2013, 07:26 PM
Djokovic and Murray officially the 2 best players in the world. This is the 1st time both Federer and Nadal are outside the top 2 since 2003. Dark (Fedal) era is finally over.:worship:

:banana::banana::banana:

http://www.essentialtennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/murraydjo1.jpg

http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/large/b_djokovic_v_murray_260113.jpg

http://www.foxsportsasia.com/servlet/file/Djokovic.JPG?ITEM_ENT_ID=659717&ITEM_VERSION=1&COLLSPEC_ENT_ID=10

http://www.tennisgrandstand.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Novak-Djokovic-vs-Andy-Murray-Australian-Open-2013-final.png

cakedraw
03-31-2013, 07:26 PM
NO, just NO.

MrPlateperson
03-31-2013, 07:27 PM
Sad day in tennis today.

Hyman
03-31-2013, 07:29 PM
Nadal is 1 million times berrer tennis player than Murray is.

azinna
03-31-2013, 07:30 PM
:sobbing: Metronomic grinding to reign for seasons to come.

Newcomer
03-31-2013, 07:30 PM
i hate Olderer and Nadal, and sympathize to Nole, BUT OMG.
SAVE ME from Nolandy era. It's just horrible. I hope fed will recover his form.

Federer in 2
03-31-2013, 07:31 PM
Nole Rules, you are pathetic.

TigerTim
03-31-2013, 07:31 PM
:sobbing: Metronomic grinding to reign for seasons to come.

You say this as if Nadal doesn't

:superlol:

DrJules
03-31-2013, 07:31 PM
Time moves on.

BauerAlmeida
03-31-2013, 07:31 PM
Nadal will be back at #2 after the USO.

rinnegan
03-31-2013, 07:31 PM
I'd rather have Djokodal/Rafole.

Abel
03-31-2013, 07:33 PM
Nadal will soon prove he's far better than Murray again :shrug:

niff
03-31-2013, 07:34 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/f5b07ed7b89834b85de39dc283df5757/tumblr_mh4k0yVNRD1ribnwko1_500.gif

Nole Rules
03-31-2013, 07:35 PM
Nole Rules, you are pathetic.

I feel your pain. :crying2:

Fat Camel
03-31-2013, 07:37 PM
Will say nothing new but that's just awful.
Boring as hell.

Topspindoctor
03-31-2013, 07:38 PM
Everyone knows Nadal is the real number two atm. Pusher won't have that rank for long,


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MichaelKrep
03-31-2013, 07:40 PM
A sad state of affairs. Don't think it will last long, though.

SliceAce
03-31-2013, 07:40 PM
How appropriate that it comes after a mugfest match :o

green25814
03-31-2013, 07:41 PM
Everyone knows Nadal is the real number two atm. Pusher won't have that rank for long,


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Nadal is a part-timer though

He is a better player than Andy but i don't think he will play enough tennis to replace him in the rankings

STUHL
03-31-2013, 07:41 PM
Can't belive I'm saying this, but save us Rafa!

arm
03-31-2013, 07:43 PM
Fedal era hasn't been a thing for pretty much 2 years. :wavey: And just give Rafa time to settle in ;)

Nole Rules
03-31-2013, 07:43 PM
At least their rivalry is more competitive than Fedal. :shrug: I don't mind Nadal in the top 2. He will have great results on clay but he needs to do very well on HC consistently if he wants to finish in the top 2.

Topspindoctor
03-31-2013, 07:43 PM
Seeing a clown like Annie Mugray #2 in the world makes me wish Nose wasn't such a huge mug this year:facepalm:


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born_on_clay
03-31-2013, 07:44 PM
Sad day for tennis

Ziggy B
03-31-2013, 07:44 PM
Never used to be a fan of Rafa's tennis, and I'm Scottish so a bit biased, but even I wish him the best to throw the cat among the pigeons. Obviously I'd prefer Fed to make another blistering run, but either or is preferable to Murray/Nole finals! Murray's game seems to have reverted back to type this year which is a shame when he can play some great attacking stuff when he wants.

Nole Rules
03-31-2013, 07:44 PM
Nadal is a part-timer though

He is a better player than Andy but i don't think he will play enough tennis to replace him in the rankings

Exactly.

Topspindoctor
03-31-2013, 07:45 PM
Nadal is a part-timer though

He is a better player than Andy but i don't think he will play enough tennis to replace him in the rankings

Mandy is declining also. If he didn't fluke USO this title would be his best for a long time


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TigerTim
03-31-2013, 07:46 PM
Mandy is declining also. If he didn't fluke USO this title would be his best for a long time


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It's called the Olympic games babe

Roy Emerson
03-31-2013, 07:46 PM
Will Nolandy win all the slams this year like Fedal in 2006, 2007 and 2010? That is the question.

Nole Rules
03-31-2013, 07:50 PM
Nolandy Era won't last long though. :( Probably will end next year. Tomic era is coming.

xcom
03-31-2013, 07:51 PM
Can't belive I'm saying this, but save us Rafa!

This! I'd take Rafole any day over Nolandy.

Moozza
03-31-2013, 07:53 PM
Mandy is declining also. If he didn't fluke USO this title would be his best for a long time


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The delusion is strong here. Slamray declining? Ok :haha:

Some decline this is :lol:

Topspindoctor
03-31-2013, 07:56 PM
The delusion is strong here. Slamray declining? Ok :haha:

Some decline this is :lol:

Yes, he is. Being a pusher with no forehand running like a stray cat from a kid with a slingshot every match. It won't be long since he is exposed and drops in rankings. Being an utter clay mug doesn't help either. Can't even reach s clay final in his career :superlol:


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Kat_YYZ
03-31-2013, 07:59 PM
:zzz:

Moozza
03-31-2013, 08:00 PM
Yes, he is. Being a pusher with no forehand running like a stray cat from a kid with a slingshot every match. It won't be long since he is exposed and drops in rankings. Being an utter clay mug doesn't help either. Can't even reach s clay final in his career :superlol:


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It is true that he will eventually decline, that is life. To say he is in decline now though is quite simply deluded.

ProdigyEng
03-31-2013, 08:03 PM
Ahahaahahahahahah even Sky Sports mentioned how this is the first time for since 2003 that Fed or Nadal haven't been in the top 2

Trollicki
03-31-2013, 08:04 PM
Nadal will be back at #2 after the USO.

Not sure if he is going to be there post-USO already, but I do expect him in the top 2 by the end of the year to be frank.

SliceAce
03-31-2013, 08:06 PM
It is true that he will eventually decline, that is life. To say he is in decline now though is quite simply deluded.

He does have a point. Mugray for years brought his best stuff in masters and beat Fed, Nadull, and Fakervic regularly. He only failed to deliver in slams. He now can't deliver in masters (first one he's won here in 2 years and it was a horrible performance), so if he fails to deliver in slams like at the AO this year what's he gonna do? If he doesn't win a slam this year, which seems likely, we can say he's in decline, even if his ranking remains high because both Fed and Nadull are in even worse decline.

Topspindoctor
03-31-2013, 08:07 PM
Ahahaahahahahahah even Sky Sports mentioned how this is the first time for since 2003 that Fed or Nadal haven't been in the top 2

Who cares? We all know who better players are as evidenced by the amount of slams and masters titles. Let me know when Pushray wins another slam, maybe then he can upgrade his status from fluke to mug


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Tiebreak100
03-31-2013, 08:07 PM
I'd rather have Djokodal/Rafole.

That would be because Nadal and Gymnast fans are almost together in their mutual and strange love. Every non Murray fan on here hates him because he is such a threat. After Federer he is the most technically gifted player in the game - and you know it, and it hurts.

Whatever you may 'prefer' is irrelevant thankfully, because Murray is not going anywhere.

Mountaindewslave
03-31-2013, 08:08 PM
At least their rivalry is more competitive than Fedal. :shrug: I don't mind Nadal in the top 2. He will have great results on clay but he needs to do very well on HC consistently if he wants to finish in the top 2.

Nadal just won Indian WElls and probably (basing it on the poor form in this tournament) could have won Miami
he'll undoubtedly get back to #2 at least assuming he avoids injury

Topspindoctor
03-31-2013, 08:09 PM
He does have a point. Mugray for years brought his best stuff in masters and beat Fed, Nadull, and Fakervic regularly. He only failed to deliver in slams. He now can't deliver in masters (first one he's won here in 2 years and it was a horrible performance), so if he fails to deliver in slams like at the AO this year what's he gonna do? If he doesn't win a slam this year, which seems likely, we can say he's in decline, even if his ranking remains high because both Fed and Nadull are in even worse decline.

Nadal is not in decline :haha: the guy missed the game for 7months and already won 3 titles including masters, 4/0 vs top players with clay coming. Don't group Nose with Nadal kthx


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Henry Chinaski
03-31-2013, 08:14 PM
Nolandy Era won't last long though. :( Probably will end next year. Tomic era is coming.

good call

Sham Kay
03-31-2013, 08:16 PM
You people talk as if ranking actually alters anything apart from tournament draws.

rocketassist
03-31-2013, 08:18 PM
Only #1 matters. Murray has been at 2 before. All it does is change draws a lil bit. We could get a bizarre RG draw as a whole.

Timot
03-31-2013, 08:23 PM
It really is symbolic if we think about it. It's probably only a matter of time when Fed and Nadal start waning and leaving space for Nolandy's dominance. It already happens with Fed. Hope some other guys join in, cause it's no fun to watch tedious Nole - Andy GS finals one after another.

Djokovic and Murray officially the 2 best players in the world. This is the 1st time both Federer and Nadal are outside the top 2 since 2004. Dark (Fedal) era is finally over.

To be precise it's the first time since 2003, so it's even longer. Last time neither of them were in top 2 was before 17.11.2003.

SliceAce
03-31-2013, 08:30 PM
Nadal is not in decline :haha: the guy missed the game for 7months and already won 3 titles including masters, 4/0 vs top players with clay coming. Don't group Nose with Nadal kthx


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Nadull relies on his opponents poor play to win, so he's always in decline. But I guess being "injured" is how he avoids this fact.

3DGNumberOneFan
03-31-2013, 08:35 PM
:haha: :haha:

Bump this thread when the Year end rankings are solidified. I'm sure Mugray will be back at his rightful #4 position.

Murray Mint
03-31-2013, 08:38 PM
Wow... butthurt Nadal fans should worry about their boy's knees rather than #2. He could be out again indefinitely at any time. Any time. It's Andy time, your bitterness won't change that.

Rychu
03-31-2013, 08:38 PM
Well I wouldn't read too much into this. It's not an era. Not yet. And even if it'd be, it'd be a weak one.

Pusha T
03-31-2013, 08:40 PM
Fedal will win the next 3 slams.

MrPlateperson
03-31-2013, 08:54 PM
I dont see how even Murray fans see this as a good thing. Only opens up the possibilty to Ferrer and Andy in the same half of the FO draw with no nadal :shrug:
tennis would take years to recover from that.

zdravkelja
03-31-2013, 08:55 PM
Sad day :sad:

retister
03-31-2013, 10:47 PM
Happy times :aparty:
Make it last, guys.

Looner
03-31-2013, 10:48 PM
I love how the BBC or whoever said that Murray is back at #2. I know it's just an expression but it's not as if that's been his usual or rightful position in the rankings like... ever...

rocketassist
03-31-2013, 10:49 PM
I love how the BBC or whoever said that Murray is back at #2. I know it's just an expression but it's not as if that's been his usual or rightful position in the rankings like... ever...

anno, it's like he's where he belongs. Even tho Fed's record in last 12 months has been more than equal in big tourneys.

ProdigyEng
03-31-2013, 10:52 PM
I love how the BBC or whoever said that Murray is back at #2. I know it's just an expression but it's not as if that's been his usual or rightful position in the rankings like... ever...

He belongs here now though and you can't deny that :D

janko05
03-31-2013, 11:28 PM
it is too easy to dismiss Nadal these days, eh?

Nole Rules
03-31-2013, 11:36 PM
Nadal will probably back to n.2 but after USO not now. That's still far from a given though.

janko05
03-31-2013, 11:44 PM
Nadal will probably back to n.2 but after USO not now. That's still far from a given though.

how could have you dismissed 26 yo Nadal from this new era discussion is beyond me

hipolymer
03-31-2013, 11:58 PM
Why do people talk as if rankings matter? :zzz: Only thing that matters is slams.

MuzzahLovah
04-01-2013, 12:06 AM
:worship:

Sanya
04-01-2013, 12:09 AM
I hear some screaming... Oh wait, it`s tennis crying. :sobbing:

MuzzahLovah
04-01-2013, 12:15 AM
I hear some screaming... Oh wait, it`s tennis crying. :sobbing:

Tears of joy.:D

Sanya
04-01-2013, 12:22 AM
Tears of joy.:D

Congrats to you and your boy :yeah:, but I`m really disappointed the way top-tennis moves lately. Andy can play so much better than this tactically, but he seems again to return to his worse. Sadly.

nole_no1
04-01-2013, 12:23 AM
Give me Djokodal anyday instead of this

Mr. Oracle
04-01-2013, 12:29 AM
Legend Heya said Fedal was like "cheap prostitution" and I;m sure he will find a suitable analogy for "NoleAndy."

I tend to think in images, and if we're doing something like word association, NoleAndy = The horror.

http://cpshaw.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/apocalypse_now.jpg

Certinfy
04-01-2013, 12:29 AM
Crazy to think 2 years ago Nadal and Federer were 1&2 and now they're 5&3.

Mr. Oracle
04-01-2013, 12:41 AM
Why do people talk as if rankings matter? :zzz: Only thing that matters is slams.

True, and if the players thought that way, they wouldn't run the risk of running out of gas in the first quarter of the season like BirdBrain, trying to defend points, no offense to Birds (I jest of course). Look at the Gypsy King, he sad to hell with it all, I'm taking a sabbatical for seven months, rank me #50, but I'm brigin' the pain in time for clay season. He's dancing to his own drummer.

nole_no1
04-01-2013, 12:43 AM
Crazy to think 2 years ago Nadal and Federer were 1&2 and now they're 5&3.

Real rankings are 1. Nole 2. Nadal 3.Murray 4.Federer

TheBigFourFTW
04-01-2013, 12:49 AM
I wouldn't hold your horses yet folks. I think we should wait until AFTER the French Open to see whether this transition is confirmed. The fact that Murray is Number 2
and Fed and Nadal 4 & 5 makes the proposition more interesting in terms of the matchups we're likely to see in the future clay seasons and beyond. We'll see.

Abel
04-01-2013, 12:58 AM
Real rankings are 1. Nole 2. Nadal 3.Murray 4.Murray

Two Murrays?

http://i41.tinypic.com/2zekuur.jpg

viruzzz
04-01-2013, 01:01 AM
lol no :lol:

Fed is disappeared but he can also come back strong as he did... a LOT of times.

And Rafa will sweep the clay season.

Also... Murray, playing like this, will have to pray for more Ferrers playing stupidly.
Novak... Yeah, I can see him another year finishin number 1

nole_no1
04-01-2013, 01:21 AM
Two Murrays?

http://i41.tinypic.com/2zekuur.jpg

:lol: Sorry. Fixed it now

jcempire
04-01-2013, 01:21 AM
Sad day in tennis today.

:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:

What I have to say? :bigcry:

Tag
04-01-2013, 01:29 AM
fraud has fallen

Nole Rules
04-01-2013, 01:32 AM
Next era....

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/01/19/1226248/825901-bernard-tomic.jpg

paseo
04-01-2013, 03:00 AM
Relax. Fed will save tennis by winning the next 3 slams.

Looner
04-01-2013, 03:07 AM
anno, it's like he's where he belongs. Even tho Fed's record in last 12 months has been more than equal in big tourneys.







He belongs here now though and you can't deny that :D


Correct, of course. The rankings are what they are and he's the #2... for now. Seeing as the old guy's really not up for it nowadays, I'd pick Murray over Nadal any day. Now we just need Ferrer out of the top 4, so he doesn't fluke any more finals.

I am having a hard time being interested in tennis nowadays. I watched Haas lose the lead in that third set and I haven't watched anything else from this tourney. Can't see clay being better unless Lendl shows Muzz a few tricks on the dirt.

Hewitt =Legend
04-01-2013, 03:15 AM
Next era....

http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/01/19/1226248/825901-bernard-tomic.jpg

This.

Every single previous era was just a transitional era compared to what B-Nard is about to bring to the table...

Julián Santiago
04-01-2013, 03:43 AM
:haha:

Don´t make me laugh

juan27
04-01-2013, 06:49 AM
jajaja this is serious???

djoko playin like shit since australia and was schooled by a 35 years old haas full of physicall problems and surgerys.

and murray , playing like shit for beat ferrer in a patetic match.

this is very clear , if federer recover his mojo again and nadal keeps going like in acapulco/indian wells , the will be nº1 and nº2 again.

Dark Knight
04-01-2013, 06:54 AM
Wake me up when Noleandy ends.:zzz:

Art&Soul
04-01-2013, 07:06 AM
Fakervic and Pushray, weakest era in history :o :sad:

Ivelina_P
04-01-2013, 07:42 AM
Relax people...Rafa is back and he will get soon to N2,why not regain his N1 for a brief time again?I know many of you say he's boring and don't like him,but at least he will infuse some drama into Djoko's dominance.

Ben D.
04-01-2013, 08:32 AM
Nadal will be back at #2 after the USO.

so soon? you mean right after Monte-Carlo-Barcelona-Madrid-Rome-Roland-Garros-Wimbledon-Hamburg-Washington-Montréal-Cincinnati-Flushing-Meadows?

let's just say tomorrow, or next year.

masterclass
04-01-2013, 10:04 AM
One should be very careful of counting out great players until they are officially retired.

I guess many did not learn from just the past year or from historical greats of previous generations. Even their fans. How many Federer fans didn't give him a shot in hell of returning to #1, or even winning another major? How many Nadal fans were pushing their idol into oblivion because he was out 7 months?

The press seem always eager to bury long standing stars to get new headlines. Then after they've buried them and the stars rise again, it is yet another new headline. Many fans are like this as well. They are tired of the same old, same old, understandably so. But it's sad that so many remind me of mean spirited vultures, seeing the old and wounded, frothing at the mouth to feast on their remains. It's satisfying when rejuvenation and recovery allows the greats to return, and those vultures waddle off in frustrated misery.

Let's see what happens, eh? Eventually Nadal and Federer will retire and everyone can say, happily, sadly, or without a care, that their era is finally over.

In the meantime, all-time record attempting 8's are on the horizon. Good chance one will do it. Both could. And there's always next year, etc. till the final curtain. :)

Respectfully,
masterclass

AncicCilic
04-01-2013, 10:06 AM
As i have said at that thread at start of the season when we voted for ranks at the end of 2013, i expect Andy to take over no 1., or come really close this year.

leng jai
04-01-2013, 10:08 AM
Yeah, we've finally transitioned to the Hasrer era.

Topspindoctor
04-01-2013, 10:12 AM
It's up to Nadal to save tennis from this blight as its obvious Nose isn't willing to step up :o


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BroTree123
04-01-2013, 10:19 AM
Noleray sounds better. But no. I disapprove. An unpleasant era coming up if this is the case. I prefer Fedal and Rafole anyday.

Roy Emerson
04-01-2013, 12:24 PM
In the meantime, all-time record attempting 8's are on the horizon. Good chance one will do it. Both could.




That will be interesting. I wonder if Djokovic can someday reach 8 Australian Opens?

Alex999
04-01-2013, 12:47 PM
I'm not so sure about this. I need to see Murray to do much more than this to even consider calling this 'the Noladay era'. I like him but let's be objective here. IMHO Roger could still win any tournament on any surface. As a Nole fan, I see Nadal as a much bigger threat than Murray.

Many guys here tend to overreact after a player wins a tournament. Murray is simply not in the same league (not yet, it might change) as Djokovic, Fed or Nadal.

now let's be a typical MTF tard, 17>11>6 ........>1 ;)

I simply don't think there is the Nole/Murray era, not yet. Murray needs to show me he can play/win something on clay :). and thank God, Murray is better than Novak on grass (MTF logic). Didn't Djokovic win Wimbeldon? sorry I can't remember. however Murray is winning W for sure this year :).

just my 5 cents :).

Orka_n
04-01-2013, 01:04 PM
Nolandy era, huh... is that supposed to be a good thing? Two one dimensional grinders in the top 2 instead of one (in Fedal's case)? Boring stuff and bad for tennis.

Well, it's not like these two will ever be as dominant as Fedal anyway.

Alex999
04-01-2013, 01:25 PM
Nolandy era, huh... is that supposed to be a good thing? Two one dimensional grinders in the top 2 instead of one (in Fedal's case)? Boring stuff and bad for tennis.

Well, it's not like these two will ever be as dominant as Fedal anyway.
nah, you can't call them 'one dimensional' plus Djokovic is not a grinder btw. It's more complicated than that. Novak used to be much more aggressive back in 2007/08 but I wouldn't call him a grinder. he is sort of passive/aggressive nowadays. yes his defense is amazing, but he can also hit winners from all over the court.

you might be trolling, I'm not sure but really watch some more tennis before you post this nonsense. some of you guys come to your own conclusion not by watching this great sport but by reading nonsense here and just repeating the same old stuff. too boring.

Allez
04-01-2013, 01:28 PM
Nolandy strikes back, Fedal has no chance in 2013

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlxxnrOnz1rxem8lo7_r1_500.gif

dencod16
04-01-2013, 01:36 PM
I think it's DjoNadray, rather than Nolandy. Federer is just non-existent already. His time has passed, he may have good results here and there but don't see him as a top player anymore.

Alex999
04-01-2013, 01:39 PM
Nolandy strikes back, Fedal has no chance in 2013

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdlxxnrOnz1rxem8lo7_r1_500.gif
well, good luck. watch Rafa winning RG again and again ;) ... Fed winning another W :)

HDW
04-01-2013, 01:40 PM
Long time coming.

The golden days have passed.

Alex999
04-01-2013, 01:44 PM
I think it's DjoNadray, rather than Nolandy. Federer is just non-existent already. His time has passed, he may have good results here and there but don't see him as a top player anymore.

not so soon my friend. everyone is writing off Fed as if he was dead. he is NOT

paseo
04-01-2013, 02:14 PM
I think it's DjoNadray, rather than Nolandy. Federer is just non-existent already. His time has passed, he may have good results here and there but don't see him as a top player anymore.

Blasphemy! Like I said, Fed will win the next 3 slams.

Moozza
04-01-2013, 02:39 PM
I'm not so sure about this. I need to see Murray to do much more than this to even consider calling this 'the Noladay era'. I like him but let's be objective here. IMHO Roger could still win any tournament on any surface. As a Nole fan, I see Nadal as a much bigger threat than Murray.

Many guys here tend to overreact after a player wins a tournament. Murray is simply not in the same league (not yet, it might change) as Djokovic, Fed or Nadal.

now let's be a typical MTF tard, 17>11>6 ........>1 ;)

I simply don't think there is the Nole/Murray era, not yet. Murray needs to show me he can play/win something on clay :). and thank God, Murray is better than Novak on grass (MTF logic). Didn't Djokovic win Wimbeldon? sorry I can't remember. however Murray is winning W for sure this year :).

just my 5 cents :).

Deluded. Federer is done. Murray is easily the better player these days on all surfaces. Murray is also undeniably better than Nadal on hardcourts, this puts him above Nadal overall since hard is the main surface on the tour.

To say he is not currently in the same league as those guys is ridiculous, infact I'm not sure if you're even serious it's so ridiculous. 3 slam finals in a row, world no. 2, olympic and US open champion, Miami champion. You could even argue he is the better than those guys at the moment.

latso
04-01-2013, 02:42 PM
The NovAnRa period in tennis starting, to be followed by the GriMilBer :D

TheShowMustGoOn
04-01-2013, 03:07 PM
Nadal will be back at #2 after the USO.I highly doubt it.

Alex999
04-01-2013, 03:15 PM
Deluded. Federer is done. Murray is easily the better player these days on all surfaces. Murray is also undeniably better than Nadal on hardcourts, this puts him above Nadal overall since hard is the main surface on the tour.

To say he is not currently in the same league as those guys is ridiculous, infact I'm not sure if you're even serious it's so ridiculous. 3 slam finals in a row, world no. 2, olympic and US open champion, Miami champion. You could even argue he is the better than those guys at the moment.
watch the clay season and come back to me. Fed is not done by all means, not yet. I'm not even sure that Murray is better on HC than Nadal. Murray struggles against Rafa on any courts. they haven't played for a long time, but I know their match up very well ... it doesn't look too good for Andy.

Murray=God
04-01-2013, 03:23 PM
Definitely is. What an exciting 5 years we have ahead of us. :dance: :dance:

ProdigyEng
04-01-2013, 03:29 PM
Doooooooooooooooobbbbbbbarrrrr

Alex999
04-01-2013, 03:31 PM
Definitely is. What an exciting 5 years we have ahead of us. :dance: :dance:
5 years. I don't think so. With their style of playing, like NO :). I hope I'm wrong btw.

fedalrock
04-01-2013, 03:40 PM
this isnt permanent lol. I expect Rafa to mke it back to the number 1 or 2 after USO easily. Federer too can go back to number 2 if he can increase his level. So...Nolandy wont last for long.:wavey:

Moozza
04-01-2013, 03:44 PM
watch the clay season and come back to me. Fed is not done by all means, not yet. I'm not even sure that Murray is better on HC than Nadal. Murray struggles against Rafa on any courts. they haven't played for a long time, but I know their match up very well ... it doesn't look too good for Andy.

How did the last set they played go again? How many games did Nadal win? Points?

Murray can handle Nadal on hardcourts no problem. Therr is no match up issue, his only problem has been mental against him. Now though Andy is much stronger mentally and I see him owing Nadal on hard from here,

pepita1964
04-01-2013, 03:51 PM
Murray struggled to win against Ferrer while Federer,Djokovic and Nadal have no problems against Ferrer, By the way Ferrer has no win against Federer.

Orka_n
04-01-2013, 03:51 PM
nah, you can't call them 'one dimensional' plus Djokovic is not a grinder btw. It's more complicated than that. Novak used to be much more aggressive back in 2007/08 but I wouldn't call him a grinder. he is sort of passive/aggressive nowadays. yes his defense is amazing, but he can also hit winners from all over the court.

you might be trolling, I'm not sure but really watch some more tennis before you post this nonsense. some of you guys come to your own conclusion not by watching this great sport but by reading nonsense here and just repeating the same old stuff. too boring.Oh please. I have seen Nole play countless times and do not need one of his fanboys to lecture me on his playing style. And you'd be wrong to mistake me for an avarage MTF clown.

Djokovic can attack but he is a baseliner and nothing more. That's perfect for today's slow courts and conditions, so credit to him, but fact remains that he is one dimensional. And I don't really care if you would call him a grinder or not. :shrug:

Nole Rules
04-01-2013, 03:57 PM
Djokovic can attack but he is a baseliner and nothing more. That's perfect for today's slow courts and conditions, so credit to him, but fact remains that he is one dimensional. And I don't really care if you would call him a grinder or not. :shrug:

That isn't a fact. That's your opinion.

Dougie
04-01-2013, 03:57 PM
not so soon my friend. everyone is writing off Fed as if he was dead. he is NOT

this isnt permanent lol. I expect Rafa to mke it back to the number 1 or 2 after USO easily. Federer too can go back to number 2 if he can increase his level. So...Nolandy wont last for long.:wavey:

I woudln´t say Federer is done by any means, but he´s already done a remarkable job hanging in there with the top guys until now, it is inevitable he will lose his grip at some point. Last year he played some excellent tennis, this year not so much, and his scheduling alone would indicate that his motivation might not be quite what is used to be. I maybe wrong, but skipping both Miami and Monte Carlo would suggest that his ranking is not that important to him anymore.

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 03:59 PM
Djokovic and Murray officially the 2 best players in the world. This is the 1st time both Federer and Nadal are outside the top 2 since 2003. Dark (Fedal) era is finally over.:worship:

:banana::banana::banana:

http://www.essentialtennis.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/murraydjo1.jpg

http://www.australianopen.com/images/pics/large/b_djokovic_v_murray_260113.jpg

http://www.foxsportsasia.com/servlet/file/Djokovic.JPG?ITEM_ENT_ID=659717&ITEM_VERSION=1&COLLSPEC_ENT_ID=10

http://www.tennisgrandstand.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Novak-Djokovic-vs-Andy-Murray-Australian-Open-2013-final.png


OH YES GOD, FINALLY! Let the young kids rule the playground. :bowdown:

Nole Rules
04-01-2013, 03:59 PM
The NovAnRa period in tennis starting, to be followed by the GriMilBer :D

lol nice name.

Alex999
04-01-2013, 04:02 PM
Oh please. I have seen Nole play countless times and do not need one of his fanboys to lecture me on his playing style. And you'd be wrong to mistake me for an avarage MTF clown.

Djokovic can attack but he is a baseliner and nothing more. That's perfect for today's slow courts and conditions, so credit to him, but fact remains that he is one dimensional. And I don't really care if you would call him a grinder or not. :shrug:
OK, what is the fastest HC court on Earth right now? Dubai maybe? Who won there 3 times?

and don't call me a fan boy please. I'm too old for that. Nole is my favorite player but I'm probably old enough to be your father.

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 04:02 PM
The Times They Are A Changin'... :superlol:

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 04:03 PM
this isnt permanent lol. I expect Rafa to mke it back to the number 1 or 2 after USO easily. Federer too can go back to number 2 if he can increase his level. So...Nolandy wont last for long.:wavey:

:spit: are you right in the head?

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 04:05 PM
Oh please. I have seen Nole play countless times and do not need one of his fanboys to lecture me on his playing style. And you'd be wrong to mistake me for an avarage MTF clown.

Djokovic can attack but he is a baseliner and nothing more. That's perfect for today's slow courts and conditions, so credit to him, but fact remains that he is one dimensional. And I don't really care if you would call him a grinder or not. :shrug:

You sure are a grumpy grandpa. :zzz:

fedalrock
04-01-2013, 04:05 PM
yeah i am...before you attack me, i'm a fan of nole too. He's one of my favs but the Noleandy matches are boring.

dencod16
04-01-2013, 04:50 PM
not so soon my friend. everyone is writing off Fed as if he was dead. he is NOT

I am not saying he will not win a big tournament or a slam, what i am saying is that it will not be as on par as Murray, Nadal, or Djokovic as to constantly perform in every event, if you actually read the full comment you are going to find that, that is what i meantm if you didn't stop half way through the post.

Nole Rules
04-01-2013, 05:37 PM
The golden era (aka Nolandy era).

http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/2011/01/30/HEAD_to_HEAD_MurrayDjokovic.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02060/djokovic-murray_2060776c.jpg
http://resources2.news.com.au/images/2011/01/29/1225996/666834-novak-djokovic-and-andy-murray.jpg
http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Editor/Img/Novak-Djokovic-and-Andy-Murray-laughing-img8068_668.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/3797946-3x2-940x627.jpg
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Novak+Djokovic+Andy+Murray+2012+Open+Day+15+W-Wp1Ia0aV8x.jpg
http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/001/879/793/hi-res-149780286_crop_exact.jpg?w=650&h=440&q=75
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02336/djokovic_2336561b.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Novak+Djokovic+Andy+Murray+Best+Day+14+2011+NHquFq j9TySl.jpg
http://images.mid-day.com/2012/sep/dloser_1.jpg
http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8005788.ece/ALTERNATES/w460/andymurray.jpg

Moozza
04-01-2013, 06:39 PM
It's called Slamrayovic era

Tiebreak100
04-01-2013, 06:48 PM
As far I am concerned we are about to enter the Andy Murray era. Nobody else really matters. I would like to congratulate Roger Federer for what he has achieved in the game and wish him the best of luck in his new career as an IT Consultant.

ProdigyEng
04-01-2013, 06:56 PM
As far I am concerned we are about to enter the Andy Murray era. Nobody else really matters. I would like to congratulate Roger Federer for what he has achieved in the game and wish him the best of luck in his new career as an IT Consultant.

hahahahahah

MuzzahLovah
04-01-2013, 06:58 PM
It's called Slamrayovic era

No that his horrible. Slamray is completely redundant as the name Murray is synonymous with the highest achievements in tennis :cool:


I will call it the Djurray era for now.

Raiden
04-01-2013, 07:00 PM
Welcome to the Mulé era.

Dark Knight
04-01-2013, 07:01 PM
It's called Slamrayovic era

Yeah makes perfect sense when Muzza has 1 slam and Nole has 6. :hatoff:

Raiden
04-01-2013, 07:15 PM
Wow... butthurt Nadal fans should worry about their boy's knees rather than #2. He could be out again indefinitely at any time. Any time. It's Andy time, your bitterness won't change that.You put in in trolling context but I actually agree with this. I'm also not convinced that Nadal will be consistent enough to dominate the top 2 positions on the ranking, not because he can't but because he won't (I expect Rafa to continue his current trend of focusing on clay and keeping the non-clay commitment to the minimum, in order to prolong his career and save his body.

Allez
04-01-2013, 07:17 PM
As far I am concerned we are about to enter the Andy Murray era. Nobody else really matters. I would like to congratulate Roger Federer for what he has achieved in the game and wish him the best of luck in his new career as an IT Consultant.

I knew you were trouble when you joined MTF :p

Alex999
04-01-2013, 07:55 PM
I am not saying he will not win a big tournament or a slam, what i am saying is that it will not be as on par as Murray, Nadal, or Djokovic as to constantly perform in every event, if you actually read the full comment you are going to find that, that is what i meantm if you didn't stop half way through the post.
OK, let's try this again. Fed won Wimbledon last year :D. I don't want to argue with you, just saying, it kinda happened.

MachineGun
04-01-2013, 08:16 PM
My... I never thought I'd say this, 5 or 6 years ago, but, really, Nadal in the top 2 is REALLY needed (Federer is too old now, and I feel he will never be as competitive as he used to be until end of 2012), and something I want now. When Federer and Nadal were both in the top2, you knew things were absolutely right, in retrospect. But Murray?!... Dark, dark times.

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 08:18 PM
I knew you were trouble when you joined MTF :p

Tiebreak100 is just another troll. This site sure does attract them, why that would be?

Mr. Oracle
04-01-2013, 09:05 PM
Oh please. I have seen Nole play countless times and do not need one of his fanboys to lecture me on his playing style. And you'd be wrong to mistake me for an avarage MTF clown.

Djokovic can attack but he is a baseliner and nothing more. That's perfect for today's slow courts and conditions, so credit to him, but fact remains that he is one dimensional. And I don't really care if you would call him a grinder or not. :shrug:

Djoker's modus operandi of attack takes many forms, so he's actually more than a baseliner. The full smorgasbord of his strategies aren't always evident every single game (ie he does not automatically serve and volley like sampras, all the time), but if you examine different games, you will actually see a very calculating player who adjusts his game just enough to get the win, while playing high percentage tennis. You are right, the slower courts have forced many players to adopt a somewhat homogeneous style of play, but despite the conditions, you will on occasion get to see The Falcon show his true predatory colours like he did against Ferrer at the AO this year; baseline play that was not. You have to admit, that truly was a sight to behold Mr Orka. In between these displays of royal brilliance, you'll see a player who is still very offensively minded, carefully constructing points by hitting pinpoint shots to the corners, slowing cutting off the court with the angles, and finishing with an approaching groundstroke winner, a delicious drop shot, or volley which turns your salivary gland into Niagara Falls (make sure you have a towel handy !!!!).

Second, Djoker may not have the same aesthetic style as Federer, but if you look hard enough, and with an open mind, you will see a player who not only is his equal in many regards, but is also superior to him in several important ways.

So there you have it my dear viking, Fed had his day in the sun, now we must embrace his true and legitimate successor. New times call for a new game, with new players. I have no doubt that Novak would have excelled and adapted in any of the previous generations, and been at the top, but calling him a simple grinder is disingenuous not just because of the evidence that he's shown us to the contrary, but also because of the demands of the current state of game.

Be patient Mr. Orka, open your eyes, and let his majesty enchant you. :music:

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 09:24 PM
Djoker's modus operandi of attack takes many forms, so he's actually more than a baseliner. The full smorgasbord of his strategies aren't always evident every single game (ie he does not automatically serve and volley like sampras, all the time), but if you examine different games, you will actually see a very calculating player who adjusts his game just enough to get the win, while playing high percentage tennis. You are right, the slower courts have forced many players to adopt a somewhat homogeneous style of play, but despite the conditions, you will on occasion get to see The Falcon show his true predatory colours like he did against Ferrer at the AO this year; baseline play that was not. You have to admit, that truly was a sight to behold Mr Orka. In between these displays of royal brilliance, you'll see a player who is still very offensively minded, carefully constructing points by hitting pinpoint shots to the corners, slowing cutting off the court with the angles, and finishing with an approaching groundstroke winner, a delicious drop shot, or volley which turns your salivary gland into Niagara Falls (make sure you have a towel handy !!!!).

Second, Djoker may not have the same aesthetic style as Federer, but if you look hard enough, and with an open mind, you will see a player who not only is his equal in many regards, but is also superior to him in several important ways.

So there you have it my dear viking, Fed had his day in the sun, now we must embrace his true and legitimate successor. New times call for a new game, with new players. I have no doubt that Novak would have excelled and adapted in any of the previous generations, and been at the top, but calling him a simple grinder is disingenuous not just because of the evidence that he's shown us to the contrary, but also because of the demands of the current state of game.

Be patient Mr. Orka, open your eyes, and let his majesty enchant you.

Excellent reasoning Mr. Oracle, but I'm afraid you're preaching to deaf ears. Save your great posts for the open-minded and those willing to engage in intelligent conversation. ;)

ProdigyEng
04-01-2013, 09:25 PM
My... I never thought I'd say this, 5 or 6 years ago, but, really, Nadal in the top 2 is REALLY needed (Federer is too old now, and I feel he will never be as competitive as he used to be until end of 2012), and something I want now. When Federer and Nadal were both in the top2, you knew things were absolutely right, in retrospect. But Murray?!... Dark, dark times.

Vintage Fed fans hating on Murray being in the top 2.

Hate to break it to you, but he earnt it!

GSMnadal
04-01-2013, 09:26 PM
Fedal is over.

Enter the age of Rafael Nadal.

Nolandy never got started and never will

ProdigyEng
04-01-2013, 09:27 PM
Fedal is over.

Enter the age of Rafael Nadal.

Nolandy never got started and never will

Nadal only era?

RIboy
04-01-2013, 09:30 PM
Nadal only era?

don't see Nadal losing in next 11 gs tbh...

Nole Rules
04-01-2013, 09:31 PM
Nadal only era?

He won't lose another match if he is healthy.:secret:

GSMnadal
04-01-2013, 09:34 PM
Nadal only era?

Djokovic and Murray may win a slam here and there. Nothing to justify a place in the era name

Tag
04-01-2013, 09:36 PM
disgusting hatred from swiss fans in this thread...

so insecure and desperate for fake love & praise...

AncicCilic
04-01-2013, 09:48 PM
I sure hope for Fed and Rafa's sake that Murray and Djokovic agree with this thread, they'd be in for a big surprise.

And i don't necessarily mean rank-wise since i don't think Roger needs to look at rankings any more since he reached the magical 300 weeks on first place, but more in slams.

As far as Nadal goes, i feel he can still get back to no. 1 in the future.

Mr. Oracle
04-01-2013, 09:50 PM
Excellent reasoning Mr. Oracle, but I'm afraid you're preaching to deaf ears. Save your great posts for the open-minded and those willing to engage in intelligent conversation. ;)

I have a feeling that Mr. Orka is not a typical Fedtard, and I spoke to him in a respectful manner. Who knows, maybe he will become the standard bearer for Nole-Nation and see the light just like CareerGrandSlam ! :haha: (I'm not laughing at you Mr. Orka).

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 09:51 PM
Fedal is over.

Enter the age of Rafael Nadal.

Nolandy never got started and never will

Nice attempt at trolling. Should we remind you of those painful seven finals? Let's see the slam count in the last two years... Nole 5 - Rafa 2. Yeah, i see a rafa domination era. :yeah:

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 09:52 PM
I have a feeling that Mr. Orka is not a typical Fedtard, and I spoke to him in a respectful manner. Who knows, maybe he will become the standard bearer for Nole-Nation and see the light just like CareerGrandSlam ! :haha: (I'm not laughing at you Mr. Orka).

Nah. He's a one-dimensional hater.

Mr. Oracle
04-01-2013, 09:56 PM
Nah. He's a one-dimensional hater.

Really? We'll see if he tells me to f#&(! off. :lol:

janko05
04-01-2013, 09:57 PM
You put in in trolling context but I actually agree with this. I'm also not convinced that Nadal will be consistent enough to dominate the top 2 positions on the ranking, not because he can't but because he won't (I expect Rafa to continue his current trend of focusing on clay and keeping the non-clay commitment to the minimum, in order to prolong his career and save his body.

I have a feeling that he's not entirely happy with the idea. It is rather a poor attempt made by tio Toni to allegedly prolong his/Rafa's career. He is a fighter and we will be seeing him much more than we think, injury permitted of course.

Tiebreak100
04-01-2013, 10:16 PM
Nice attempt at trolling. Should we remind you of those painful seven finals? Let's see the slam count in the last two years... Nole 5 - Rafa 2. Yeah, i see a rafa domination era. :yeah:

You appear to label anyone that holds a differing opinion to you as a 'troll'. If you could be so kind as to not be pompous for a second, you may realise people are actually posting what they think and believe. Could it be, could it possibly be, that by labelling many who disagree with your humble opinion as a 'troll', that you are in fact trolling yourself?

Remember the established posters like yourself set the bar for the newcomers. I am just following your self important lead.

Nole fan
04-01-2013, 10:19 PM
You appear to label anyone that holds a differing opinion to you as a 'troll'. If you could be so kind as to not be pompous for a second, you may realise people are actually posting what they think and believe. Could it be, could it possibly be, that by labelling many who disagree with your humble opinion as a 'troll', that you are in fact trolling yourself?

Remember the established posters like yourself set the bar for the newcomers. I am just following your self important lead.

Are you saying you're not a troll? your posts don't make any sense at all, you don't even entertain any tennis conversation, just gibberish bs since you registered here. That's what I call a troll. Maybe you should look into the dictionary for a definition.

Alex999
04-01-2013, 10:27 PM
this thread is really getting hilarious. Nole/Fed/Rafa/Muzza who? Tomic is coming ... not sure what he is going to do this time but it should be funny ;)

Tiebreak100
04-01-2013, 10:31 PM
Are you saying you're not a troll? your posts don't make any sense at all, you don't even entertain any tennis conversation, just gibberish bs since you registered here. That's what I call a troll. Maybe you should look into the dictionary for a definition.

Ah, I was hoping you could avoid being pompous for one measly second; too much to ask obviously. Yeh, from now on I will post pictures of the male crotch and snaps of Novak on the toilet squeezing one out.

I am sure the above will meet your hypocritical approval.

janko05
04-01-2013, 10:32 PM
You appear to label anyone that holds a differing opinion to you as a 'troll'. If you could be so kind as to not be pompous for a second, you may realise people are actually posting what they think and believe. Could it be, could it possibly be, that by labelling many who disagree with your humble opinion as a 'troll', that you are in fact trolling yourself?

Remember the established posters like yourself set the bar for the newcomers. I am just following your self important lead.

you may be an inexperienced poster but your nick seems to appear in every tennis forum there is :shrug:

Orka_n
04-02-2013, 12:03 AM
Oh my, this thread... Noletards are really showing why they were the most unbearable fanbase back in 2011...

Djoker's modus operandi of attack takes many forms, so he's actually more than a baseliner. The full smorgasbord of his strategies aren't always evident every single game (ie he does not automatically serve and volley like sampras, all the time), but if you examine different games, you will actually see a very calculating player who adjusts his game just enough to get the win, while playing high percentage tennis. You are right, the slower courts have forced many players to adopt a somewhat homogeneous style of play, but despite the conditions, you will on occasion get to see The Falcon show his true predatory colours like he did against Ferrer at the AO this year; baseline play that was not. You have to admit, that truly was a sight to behold Mr Orka. In between these displays of royal brilliance, you'll see a player who is still very offensively minded, carefully constructing points by hitting pinpoint shots to the corners, slowing cutting off the court with the angles, and finishing with an approaching groundstroke winner, a delicious drop shot, or volley which turns your salivary gland into Niagara Falls (make sure you have a towel handy !!!!).

Second, Djoker may not have the same aesthetic style as Federer, but if you look hard enough, and with an open mind, you will see a player who not only is his equal in many regards, but is also superior to him in several important ways.

So there you have it my dear viking, Fed had his day in the sun, now we must embrace his true and legitimate successor. New times call for a new game, with new players. I have no doubt that Novak would have excelled and adapted in any of the previous generations, and been at the top, but calling him a simple grinder is disingenuous not just because of the evidence that he's shown us to the contrary, but also because of the demands of the current state of game.

Be patient Mr. Orka, open your eyes, and let his majesty enchant you. :music:I don't appreciate the tone of this post, and the content I have heard many times before. I said I am not interested in hearing a Noletard lovingly describe Novak's "beautiful" tennis while telling ME to be more objective.

I respect Novak for being the player he is, not much more to it.
You sure are a grumpy grandpa. :zzz:How old were you again, Nina?

OK, what is the fastest HC court on Earth right now? Dubai maybe? Who won there 3 times?

and don't call me a fan boy please. I'm too old for that. Nole is my favorite player but I'm probably old enough to be your father.So Djokovic won a fast mm tournament a few times, doesn't change a thing. Btw, "fanboy" has nothing to do with age. I admit you're one of the more reasonable Noletards though.

Alex999
04-02-2013, 12:23 AM
Oh my, this thread... Noletards are really showing why they were the most unbearable fanbase back in 2011...

Fanboy drivel, didn't read

How old were you again, Nina?

So Djokovic won a fast mm tournament a few times, doesn't change a thing. Btw, "fanboy" has nothing to do with age. I admit you're one of the more reasonable Noletards though.


well thank you. I really try to be logical. Djokovic, first of all, doesn't have as many fans/tards as many other players. few of us have been supporting him for a long time before we even knew he was going to be #1, a multiple slam winner etc.

to be honest with you there are a couple of Nole fans that annoy me too, but Nole fans are still a minority here. I have to think hard to remember back in 2007 when I joined this board who were Nole fans to be honest with you. a few names come to my mind, I will not mentioned them.

I understand you don't like Djokovic and it's fine with me, but who is really pissing you off as a Nole tard that much? why focus so much on what or who you don't like?

in any sport we choose to support someone.
cheers
I'd also appreciate if you didn't call me a Noletard. You could call me a Borgtard btw. He was my first love.

TigerTim
04-02-2013, 12:26 AM
Raomic era is up next, not these two clowns

Alex999
04-02-2013, 12:34 AM
Raomic era is up next, not these two clowns
not so sure about this Raomic guy :D. I completely lost my faith in younger players.

Mr. Oracle
04-02-2013, 01:17 AM
Oh my, this thread... Noletards are really showing why they were the most unbearable fanbase back in 2011...
I don't appreciate the tone of this post, and the content I have heard many times before. I said I am not interested in hearing a Noletard lovingly describe Novak's "beautiful" tennis while telling ME to be more objective.


So you didn't like the patronizing tone of my post eh? :lol: I assumed you have a sense of humour juding by your sig :shrug: Maybe you are a little grumpy no? Ok, have it your way.

You are correct, my post had some silly extra frills and embellishments, but I also proved to you how you are 100% wrong in limiting Novak to a baseline grinder.

Sir, I wish you an enchanting evening.

Kyle_Johansen
04-02-2013, 01:24 AM
Rafa isn't getting close to #2 until after Wimbledon.

Seeing as Rafa will likely win RG and Fed and Rafa have great chances at Wimbledon, people are jumping the gun on this Djokovic/Murray domination.

Orka_n
04-02-2013, 01:39 AM
well thank you. I really try to be logical. Djokovic, first of all, doesn't have as many fans/tards as many other players. few of us have been supporting him for a long time before we even knew he was going to be #1, a multiple slam winner etc.

to be honest with you there are a couple of Nole fans that annoy me too, but Nole fans are still a minority here. I have to think hard to remember back in 2007 when I joined this board who were Nole fans to be honest with you. a few names come to my mind, I will not mentioned them.

I understand you don't like Djokovic and it's fine with me, but who is really pissing you off as a Nole tard that much? why focus so much on what or who you don't like?

in any sport we choose to support someone.
cheers
I'd also appreciate if you didn't call me a Noletard. You could call me a Borgtard btw. He was my first love.A common misconception. I actually have nothing against Djokovic, I easily like him more than Nadal or Murray. I just think Noletards are overrating him like shit.

So you didn't like the patronizing tone of my post eh? :lol: I assumed you have a sense of humour juding by your sig :shrug: Maybe you are a little grumpy no? Ok, have it your way.

You are correct, my post had some silly extra frills and embellishments, but I also proved to you how you are 100% wrong in limiting Novak to a baseline grinder.

Sir, I wish you an enchanting evening.Your humour in that post was on a 13 year old's level, that's why I wasn't amused mate. But hey, I did laugh at the part when you explained Nole is Fed's true and legitimate successor. (:spit: :haha: He is not half of the player Roger was.)

Who cares how you Noletards would describe your hero's game, fact remains he is a baseliner with solid and deep (or robotic, depending how you look at it) groundstrokes. In many ways he is a grinder, although one more offensive than for example Murray. But by all means, keep living in your dream world

Kyle_Johansen
04-02-2013, 01:40 AM
Calling Djokovic an all-court player is just wrong. If he had more variety in his game he wouldn't have struggled so much with Haas in Miami.

Sombrerero loco
04-02-2013, 02:09 AM
nadal is not done yet...

Mr. Oracle
04-02-2013, 02:10 AM
Calling Djokovic an all-court player is just wrong. If he had more variety in his game he wouldn't have struggled so much with Haas in Miami.

Absurd, that's like saying it's impossible for "complete game" Fed to lose against one dimensional players like Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga and Murray...oh wait.

Oh yeah, and all those losses are at slams, not ham 'n egger tourneys like Miami where all the players tried to high-tail out of ASAP.

Abel
04-02-2013, 02:12 AM
Calling Djokovic an all-court player is just wrong. If he had more variety in his game he wouldn't have struggled so much with Haas in Miami.

It depends entirely on who he is playing. The style he plays differs greatly depending on the player at the other end of the court.

In any case, one match proves nothing.

Mr. Oracle
04-02-2013, 02:14 AM
Orka, I see you're still continuing with the ad hominem attacks and not addressing my evidence.

Your humour in that post was on a 13 year old's level,

So says the guy with a santa beard and a quote from a "professional" wrestler. Damn son. Who are YOU trying to amuse if not 5 year olds cause 13 year olds would think you were seriously lame. I gave you a chance not to be grumpy lol.

SheepleBuster
04-02-2013, 02:34 AM
Tennis is dead with these two bozo mugging it up. Rafa and Roger had way more class and they owned both of their asses at their peak. But Rafa got injured. Roger got old. And we have Nole, the clown of tennis, and Murray, the wind master.

Moozza
04-02-2013, 02:37 AM
Absurd, that's like saying it's impossible for "complete game" Fed to lose against one dimensional players like Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga and Murray...oh wait.

Oh yeah, and all those losses are at slams, not ham 'n egger tourneys like Miami where all the players tried to high-tail out of ASAP.

Just no.

star
04-02-2013, 02:42 AM
MTF era of posting about eras :zzz:

Ico
04-02-2013, 02:55 AM
How about Murric?

Orka_n
04-02-2013, 09:51 AM
Orka, I see you're still continuing with the ad hominem attacks and not addressing my evidence.

So says the guy with a santa beard and a quote from a "professional" wrestler. Damn son. Who are YOU trying to amuse if not 5 year olds cause 13 year olds would think you were seriously lame. I gave you a chance not to be grumpy lol.For god's sake clown, get off your high horse. Couldn't be more pathetic if you tried. You make fun of my avatar while yours is ridiculous? My avatar is Davydenko if you can't see that and I used it in christmas time, just haven't bothered to change back yet. As for my sig, the Rock has a certain charisma about him so I like him. Truth is I never watch the actual WWE fights.

Neither my avatar nor my signature was an attempt at humour from my side though, so it's completely irrelevant.

Also, I did respond to some of your points. I did not go into detail however because, as I said, you are a delusional Noletard who calls him the king. Why would I waste my time discussing Djokovic with you when you've already proven you can't be objective when it comes to him.

Topspindoctor
04-02-2013, 09:53 AM
For god's sake clown, get off your high horse. Couldn't be more pathetic if you tried. You make fun of my avatar while yours is ridiculous? My avatar is Davydenko if you can't see that and I used it in christmas time, just haven't bothered to change back yet. As for my sig, the Rock has a certain charisma about him so I like him. Truth is I never watch the actual WWE fights.

Neither my avatar nor my signature was an attempt at humour from my side though, so it's completely irrelevant.

Also, I did respond to some of your points. I did not go into detail however because, as I said, you are a delusional Noletard who calls him the king. Why would I waste my time discussing Djokovic with you when you've already proven you can't be objective when it comes to him.

Just admit it, your avatar sucks :awww:

Clydey
04-02-2013, 10:35 AM
:lol:

Loving the shitfits being thrown in this thread.

retister
04-02-2013, 03:58 PM
A common misconception. I actually have nothing against Djokovic, I easily like him more than Nadal or Murray. I just think Noletards are overrating him like shit.

Your humour in that post was on a 13 year old's level, that's why I wasn't amused mate. But hey, I did laugh at the part when you explained Nole is Fed's true and legitimate successor. (:spit: :haha: He is not half of the player Roger was.)

Who cares how you Noletards would describe your hero's game, fact remains he is a baseliner with solid and deep (or robotic, depending how you look at it) groundstrokes. In many ways he is a grinder, although one more offensive than for example Murray. But by all means, keep living in your dream world

Kind of hard not to overestimate him after matches like USO 2011 and 2010 semi. I mean, I'm trying hard, but...

MuzzahLovah
04-02-2013, 06:01 PM
This thread
http://25.media.tumblr.com/0a7197f6e5b6c87638c3e5c445ac20f9/tumblr_mkmzya2OOS1qb2wsio1_500.jpg

Kyle_Johansen
04-02-2013, 07:31 PM
Absurd, that's like saying it's impossible for "complete game" Fed to lose against one dimensional players like Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga and Murray...oh wait.

Oh yeah, and all those losses are at slams, not ham 'n egger tourneys like Miami where all the players tried to high-tail out of ASAP.

Federer used to dominate big hitters when he was faster and more athletic.

TennisPhan1
04-02-2013, 09:27 PM
Mauricio of Sao Paulo, Brazil, wrote: "So it seems we are officially back to the '80s in men's tennis. We have a 30-plus-year-old still winning Slams and reclaiming No. 1 (Federer/Connors), we have the clay king facing a possible early retirement (Nadal/Borg), a unique character putting on one of the best seasons of all time (Djokovic 2011/McEnroe 1984), and now we have the stoic, less celebrated player among the Big Four breaking through at a Grand Slam after losing his first four major finals (Murray/Lendl). Interesting how history has a way of repeating itself."

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20120919/wertheim-mailbag/#ixzz2PL7DHWnl

MTwEeZi
04-02-2013, 09:28 PM
Federer used to dominate big hitters when he was faster and more athletic.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Roger_federer_athens.jpg

MIMIC
04-02-2013, 09:43 PM
Calling Djokovic an all-court player is just wrong. If he had more variety in his game he wouldn't have struggled so much with Haas in Miami.

:facepalm:

Maybe Federer needs more variety in his game to deal with Nadal.

BTW, Djokovic has a WINNING H2H against Haas. I think he deals with his variety just fine.

Murray Mint
04-02-2013, 10:26 PM
This thread
http://25.media.tumblr.com/0a7197f6e5b6c87638c3e5c445ac20f9/tumblr_mkmzya2OOS1qb2wsio1_500.jpg
:lol: Look at Murray trolling all these poor, angry haters! This forum has been funny over the last few days, I could almost taste the fury after the Ferrer match.

And we have Nole, the clown of tennis, and Murray, the wind master.
:lol: :lol:

Mr. Oracle
04-02-2013, 10:39 PM
:facepalm:

Maybe Federer needs more variety in his game to deal with Nadal.

BTW, Djokovic has a WINNING H2H against Haas. I think he deals with his variety just fine.

+ $1000000000000

$Bullion$ bro! Don't know how that escaped me.

http://goldmatrix.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/gold-bullion.jpg

retister
04-02-2013, 10:48 PM
:facepalm:

Maybe Federer needs more variety in his game to deal with Nadal.

BTW, Djokovic has a WINNING H2H against Haas. I think he deals with his variety just fine.
:worship:
Seriously, seems like all his variety comes down to slicing like mad when in trouble and the fact that he used to play serve and volley a long time ago.
Give me a break, slice and volley are two among the easiest shots there are in tennis. I would know, I play them all the time cause I suck at everything else except serve.

Mountaindewslave
04-02-2013, 10:53 PM
Djoker's modus operandi of attack takes many forms, so he's actually more than a baseliner. The full smorgasbord of his strategies aren't always evident every single game (ie he does not automatically serve and volley like sampras, all the time), but if you examine different games, you will actually see a very calculating player who adjusts his game just enough to get the win, while playing high percentage tennis. You are right, the slower courts have forced many players to adopt a somewhat homogeneous style of play, but despite the conditions, you will on occasion get to see The Falcon show his true predatory colours like he did against Ferrer at the AO this year; baseline play that was not. You have to admit, that truly was a sight to behold Mr Orka. In between these displays of royal brilliance, you'll see a player who is still very offensively minded, carefully constructing points by hitting pinpoint shots to the corners, slowing cutting off the court with the angles, and finishing with an approaching groundstroke winner, a delicious drop shot, or volley which turns your salivary gland into Niagara Falls (make sure you have a towel handy !!!!).

Second, Djoker may not have the same aesthetic style as Federer, but if you look hard enough, and with an open mind, you will see a player who not only is his equal in many regards, but is also superior to him in several important ways.

So there you have it my dear viking, Fed had his day in the sun, now we must embrace his true and legitimate successor. New times call for a new game, with new players. I have no doubt that Novak would have excelled and adapted in any of the previous generations, and been at the top, but calling him a simple grinder is disingenuous not just because of the evidence that he's shown us to the contrary, but also because of the demands of the current state of game.

Be patient Mr. Orka, open your eyes, and let his majesty enchant you. :music:

please Djokovic has one strategy, retrieve balls and grind until his opponent falters in their OWN strategy
if he was so able to adjust and 'calculate' how to play differently each match, he would have done so to some degree against Haas in Miami
the reality is that Djokovic has no answer to aggressive players with variety, and that win a player consistantly mixes it up and brings it 'to him' he just defaults to grinding and hopes and prays that the opponent hits enough errors to give him the win.
fortunately for Djokovic, the courts are very rewarding to this sort of strategy these days, there aren't many attacking players these days (they either are trainwrecks or fear going for their shots), and variety is dead

Novak can do many things well but make no mistake that he certainly grinds and plays a very PONG like game, much like most of his contemporaries
Djokovic is mega talented but he uses the same strategy almost always, duh, don't be silly

retister
04-02-2013, 11:13 PM
fortunately for Djokovic, the courts are very rewarding to this sort of strategy these days, there aren't many attacking players these days (they either are trainwrecks or fear going for their shots), and variety is dead

Djokovic is mega talented but he uses the same strategy almost always, duh, don't be silly

You could have just written that.
He is using the most optimal strategy in this day and age. Doing anything else would be stupid.
Of course, he will occasionally encounter a talented opponent on fire and lose the match.
Just an exception that confirms the rule.
Once again, I see more variety in just Djok's forehand and backhand than in all of Roger's game put together.

Allez
04-02-2013, 11:14 PM
Nole has developed a wicked slice now :eek:

Kyle_Johansen
04-02-2013, 11:37 PM
:worship:
Seriously, seems like all his variety comes down to slicing like mad when in trouble and the fact that he used to play serve and volley a long time ago.
Give me a break, slice and volley are two among the easiest shots there are in tennis. I would know, I play them all the time cause I suck at everything else except serve.

That's what you think Fed's variety is? Slicing?

His variety comes from his all-court game and the fact that he had no holes in his game in his prime. He never hit the same shot twice in a row (and still rarely does) and he had so many ways to win, so many shot he could hit and strategies he could and can use. Not to mention he uses angles and spins better than anyone who's ever played.

If slicing and volleying are as easy as you say they are, then why aren't more guys coming to the net?

retister
04-02-2013, 11:51 PM
That's what you think Fed's variety is? Slicing?

His variety comes from his all-court game and the fact that he had no holes in his game in his prime. He never hit the same shot twice in a row (and still rarely does) and he had so many ways to win, so many shot he could hit and strategies he could and can use. Not to mention he uses angles and spins better than anyone who's ever played.

If slicing and volleying are as easy as you say they are, then why aren't more guys coming to the net?
I said they were easy FOR ME.
Few people come to the net today because it's a suicide strategy in current conditions.
Fed is not the best angles and spins player ever, not by a long shot.
I'm probably biased, but I've always seen him as an extremely efficient forehand/serve bot, with the rest of his game solid enough to ensure the results he had.

Alex999
04-02-2013, 11:52 PM
please Djokovic has one strategy, retrieve balls and grind until his opponent falters in their OWN strategy
if he was so able to adjust and 'calculate' how to play differently each match, he would have done so to some degree against Haas in Miami
the reality is that Djokovic has no answer to aggressive players with variety, and that win a player consistantly mixes it up and brings it 'to him' he just defaults to grinding and hopes and prays that the opponent hits enough errors to give him the win.
fortunately for Djokovic, the courts are very rewarding to this sort of strategy these days, there aren't many attacking players these days (they either are trainwrecks or fear going for their shots), and variety is dead

Novak can do many things well but make no mistake that he certainly grinds and plays a very PONG like game, much like most of his contemporaries
Djokovic is mega talented but he uses the same strategy almost always, duh, don't be silly
OK, I'm bored so I'll try to challenge you here. It's funny to me that something like this is coming from a Rafa fan. And please explain to me how world #1 doesn't have an answer to 'aggressive players with variety'. Who are they?

or let me put it this way, if he sucks so much, how come he is #1 in the world? I actually like your attitude but sometimes, you don't make any sense. sorry bud :D

to be honest with you, I don't think Djokovic cared too much about both IW or Miami. It felt more like he was sleeping then playing tennis. Bored, uninspired.

Kyle_Johansen
04-02-2013, 11:54 PM
That you think Djokovic has more variety than Federer just shows why I can't be arguing this with you.

retister
04-03-2013, 12:19 AM
That you think Djokovic has more variety than Federer just shows why I can't be arguing this with you.

You can't be arguing this with me because you are just repeating this widespread dogma that suits you.
What exactly, except for the slices and volleys is he doing so much better than Djokovic?
Funny thing is, Novak has been slicing and volleying and smashing much more frequently lately, and yet he is losing matches he should not be losing.
I honestly hope he reverts back to his ultimate grinding game. "Variety" does not go hand in hand with stacking slams these days.

Kyle_Johansen
04-03-2013, 12:26 AM
You can't be arguing this with me because you are just repeating this widespread dogma that suits you.
What exactly, except for the slices and volleys is he doing so much better than Djokovic?
Funny thing is, Novak has been slicing and volleying and smashing much more frequently lately, and yet he is losing matches he should not be losing.
I honestly hope he reverts back to his ultimate grinding game. "Variety" does not go hand in hand with stacking slams these days.

Yes, Djokovic's game is much better suited for today's conditions than Federer's game. Defense is a better asset than offense these days.

I don't have to list how Federer has more variety than Djokovic because if you know anything about tennis you should know how. Better serve, drop shots, volleys, overall net game, better IQ, better use of the court, has more dimensions to his game..... Djokovic is a prototypical baseliner and the best one in the world right now, and that's great for him. But if he had a more varied and complete game and knew how to use it, he would utilize it more successfully. There is a reason he has the potential to struggle against the likes of Federer and Haas, and that's because he has difficulty countering their unpredictable attacking games.

Alex999
04-03-2013, 12:45 AM
Yes, Djokovic's game is much better suited for today's conditions than Federer's game. Defense is a better asset than offense these days.

I don't have to list how Federer has more variety than Djokovic because if you know anything about tennis you should know how. Better serve, drop shots, volleys, overall net game, better IQ, better use of the court, has more dimensions to his game..... Djokovic is a prototypical baseliner and the best one in the world right now, and that's great for him. But if he had a more varied and complete game and knew how to use it, he would utilize it more successfully. There is a reason he has the potential to struggle against the likes of Federer and Haas, and that's because he has difficulty countering their unpredictable attacking games.
Kyle,
I'm not sure what you are trying to prove here. Fed is the most accomplished player in tennis history. OK, I agree with you, Nole is not as good. all of this mambo jumbo talk about variety is getting too old. Djokovic, if you watch carefully, can pull out all kind of different shots.

You are 20yo. I'm not even sure if you saw Fed's matches back in, let's say 2003 yet you are protecting him as if something was wrong with him. chill out man.

if it is going to make you feel better, Nole will NOT last forever. it's the way of life :D.

and just to make you feel better again, Fed is the best :).

leng jai
04-03-2013, 12:49 AM
Pointless argument since everyone knows that Hass is the GOAT of all Round tennis anyway.

Alex999
04-03-2013, 01:05 AM
Pointless argument since everyone knows that Hass is the GOAT of all Round tennis anyway.
Leng, I know Tommy is a great looking guy plus he plays great tennis but what we are going to do with you when he retires? Could I somehow get you to switch to the Nole camp? C'mon his hair is not too bad (well he does have hair):lol:

heya
04-03-2013, 01:14 AM
2003-2006 clowns love Fed because they didn't have
to play semis/finals.

Federer wants Nadal and Djoker to play like him.
Bashing flat serves & depend on his DNA gift for stretching his muscles faster than the slow clowns.

Bad slices, fake "aura" invented by the media & most importantly, bored, choking or injured opponents.

Lose often to top 3 opponents and depend on arrogant players that beat Benneteau & Berdych.

SliceAce
04-03-2013, 01:20 AM
You could have just written that.
He is using the most optimal strategy in this day and age. Doing anything else would be stupid.
Of course, he will occasionally encounter a talented opponent on fire and lose the match.
Just an exception that confirms the rule.
Once again, I see more variety in just Djok's forehand and backhand than in all of Roger's game put together.

:haha: He uses the most optimal strategy because that's all he can do. In any other era he would be on the challenger tour or maybe another sport where pure athleticism and flexibility are all you need. Sad that a 36 year old doesn't even know what "variety" means, I get you didn't watch tennis until you had an excuse for blind nationalism but surely you caught a Wimbledon final in the 90s by accident :o

heya
04-03-2013, 01:42 AM
Surely, the great Genius Fed could've used his superior
flat serve bludgeoning plus physical flexibility the last 4 years.
Instead, his "number 1 tennis and pretty variety of shots" came
most often vs. doubles players,
weak slow movers & tendinitis plagued 1 Slam flukes - pigeons in their last years on circuit.

Mr. Oracle
04-03-2013, 01:50 AM
I don't think Djokovic cared too much about both IW or Miami. It felt more like he was sleeping then playing tennis. Bored, uninspired.

I'm amazed that some posters are using the Haas match to prove a point. Your point is so obvious that I've been very lazy to even bring it up. It should be apparent that these events are tune-ups for the slams. At first, I thought there was something seriously wrong with Djoker's half hearted and utterly miserable approaches, I didn't know if he caught a bug or if a ball kid spiked his water bottle with something, and then I realized this is what it means to play miami. Might as well be an exhibition for multiple slam winners.

Mr. Oracle
04-03-2013, 02:01 AM
Yes, Djokovic's game is much better suited for today's conditions than Federer's game. Defense is a better asset than offense these days.

I don't have to list how Federer has more variety than Djokovic because if you know anything about tennis you should know how. Better serve, drop shots, volleys, overall net game, better IQ

Refusing to change his game against Nadal is not consistent with a high IQ, if he is so complete and adaptable why does he have no answers for the rafa? Please don't say he has no answers for a high bouncing shot to his backhand. That is embarrassingly obvious. Perhaps he needs to work on some tennis fundamentals, you know: serve, backand, forehand etc. Djoker has no trouble with the forehand or backhand of any player, he'd even eat king kong's high bouncing moonballs. It's obvious he doesn't care for slices very much but he's by no means paralyzed like your boy, and he actually fights through these types of opponents who trouble him, like a champ, and doesn't mope around after the first set, accepting inevitable defeat. That resignation to defeat is a real blemish on Fed "goat's" career.

Nole Rules
04-03-2013, 02:06 AM
2003-2006 clowns love Fed because they didn't have
to play semis/finals.

Federer wants Nadal and Djoker to play like him.
Bashing flat serves & depend on his DNA gift for stretching his muscles faster than the slow clowns.

Bad slices, fake "aura" invented by the media & most importantly, bored, choking or injured opponents.

Lose often to top 3 opponents and depend on arrogant players that beat Benneteau & Berdych.

Surely, the great Genius Fed could've used his superior
flat serve bludgeoning plus physical flexibility the last 4 years.
Instead, his "number 1 tennis and pretty variety of shots" came
most often vs. doubles players,
weak slow movers & tendinitis plagued 1 Slam flukes - pigeons in their last years on circuit.

Now I feel my thread is complete.

Mountaindewslave
04-03-2013, 02:08 AM
this thread is so bad :facepalm:

I hope the OP doesn't take himself seriously...

at least Federer and Nadal contrasting each other, both athletically and asthetically their games

Murray and Djokovic are like carbon copies of each other with little tweaks of things they are better at than the other. blah. fuck off OP this is anything but a good thing and I hope to god its not the case

Mr. Oracle
04-03-2013, 02:19 AM
Surely, the great Genius Fed could've used his superior
flat serve bludgeoning plus physical flexibility the last 4 years.
Instead, his "number 1 tennis and pretty variety of shots" came
most often vs. doubles players,
weak slow movers & tendinitis plagued 1 Slam flukes - pigeons in their last years on circuit.

:lol:

NSMv1924
04-03-2013, 05:13 AM
As i have said at that thread at start of the season when we voted for ranks at the end of 2013, i expect Andy to take over no 1., or come really close this year.

You'd like that wouldn't you?

NSMv1924
04-03-2013, 05:20 AM
:haha: He uses the most optimal strategy because that's all he can do. In any other era he would be on the challenger tour or maybe another sport where pure athleticism and flexibility are all you need. Sad that a 36 year old doesn't even know what "variety" means, I get you didn't watch tennis until you had an excuse for blind nationalism but surely you caught a Wimbledon final in the 90s by accident :o

Fraud mugs still around after the start he's had to this year, I applaud you. Oh I just can't wait until Madrid where Shankerer will once again show us what he's made of.

retister
04-03-2013, 08:33 AM
Yes, Djokovic's game is much better suited for today's conditions than Federer's game. Defense is a better asset than offense these days.

I don't have to list how Federer has more variety than Djokovic because if you know anything about tennis you should know how. Better serve, drop shots, volleys, overall net game, better IQ, better use of the court, has more dimensions to his game..... Djokovic is a prototypical baseliner and the best one in the world right now, and that's great for him. But if he had a more varied and complete game and knew how to use it, he would utilize it more successfully. There is a reason he has the potential to struggle against the likes of Federer and Haas, and that's because he has difficulty countering their unpredictable attacking games.
Better serve - yes, I already called him a servebot; drop shots - no, Djokovic reinvented them early in his career; volleying - yes, already said it is one of the easiest shots, does not contribute to variety that much to me; better iq - just no, he is as rigid as they come; better use of the court - lol, this is the foundation of Novak's game; has more dimensions to his game - now you are just reiterating the mantra...

:haha: He uses the most optimal strategy because that's all he can do. In any other era he would be on the challenger tour or maybe another sport where pure athleticism and flexibility are all you need. Sad that a 36 year old doesn't even know what "variety" means, I get you didn't watch tennis until you had an excuse for blind nationalism but surely you caught a Wimbledon final in the 90s by accident :o
You are seriously not embarrassed to write stuff like this?
Hope you are trolling, for your sake.

Nole fan
04-03-2013, 12:29 PM
:haha: He uses the most optimal strategy because that's all he can do. In any other era he would be on the challenger tour or maybe another sport where pure athleticism and flexibility are all you need. Sad that a 36 year old doesn't even know what "variety" means, I get you didn't watch tennis until you had an excuse for blind nationalism but surely you caught a Wimbledon final in the 90s by accident :o

You're an idiot, i think we can all agree on that. No point talking to you when all you spit is pure bs. Go away troll. :bs:

Nole fan
04-03-2013, 12:31 PM
Refusing to change his game against Nadal is not consistent with a high IQ, if he is so complete and adaptable why does he have no answers for the rafa? Please don't say he has no answers for a high bouncing shot to his backhand. That is embarrassingly obvious. Perhaps he needs to work on some tennis fundamentals, you know: serve, backand, forehand etc. Djoker has no trouble with the forehand or backhand of any player, he'd even eat king kong's high bouncing moonballs. It's obvious he doesn't care for slices very much but he's by no means paralyzed like your boy, and he actually fights through these types of opponents who trouble him, like a champ, and doesn't mope around after the first set, accepting inevitable defeat. That resignation to defeat is a real blemish on Fed "goat's" career.

I love your style of owning these fedtards. Keep it up. :yeah:

TigerTim
04-03-2013, 12:35 PM
Surely, the great Genius Fed could've used his superior
flat serve bludgeoning plus physical flexibility the last 4 years.
Instead, his "number 1 tennis and pretty variety of shots" came
most often vs. doubles players,
weak slow movers & tendinitis plagued 1 Slam flukes - pigeons in their last years on circuit.

:superlol:

brilliance at its best

Chirag
04-03-2013, 02:48 PM
Fedal in 2005-08 was really great . It went downhill after that but the rivalry was past its prime after W08 :sad: This is really a dark day for tennis :sad::sad: We will miss those wonderful 4 years

Chirag
04-03-2013, 02:49 PM
Seeing a clown like Annie Mugray #2 in the world makes me wish Nose wasn't such a huge mug this year:facepalm:


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too good :superlol:

Kyle_Johansen
04-03-2013, 08:21 PM
Better serve - yes, I already called him a servebot; drop shots - no, Djokovic reinvented them early in his career; volleying - yes, already said it is one of the easiest shots, does not contribute to variety that much to me; better iq - just no, he is as rigid as they come; better use of the court - lol, this is the foundation of Novak's game; has more dimensions to his game - now you are just reiterating the mantra...

You seriously know nothing about tennis do you?

Federer and rigid should never be used in the same sentence. And as for volleys being "easy," that is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Go watch any number of Federer drop volleys and ask yourself if the shot he hit was easy. Coming to net contributes to variety and if you don't see that then you are clueless. As for drop shots, nobody plays them better these days. You think Djokovic could pull off that fading away dropper vs Murray at last year's Wimbledon?

Orka_n
04-03-2013, 10:07 PM
Once again, I see more variety in just Djok's forehand and backhand than in all of Roger's game put together.Nurse!

retister
04-03-2013, 10:51 PM
You seriously know nothing about tennis do you?

Federer and rigid should never be used in the same sentence. And as for volleys being "easy," that is the biggest load of crap I've ever heard. Go watch any number of Federer drop volleys and ask yourself if the shot he hit was easy. Coming to net contributes to variety and if you don't see that then you are clueless. As for drop shots, nobody plays them better these days. You think Djokovic could pull off that fading away dropper vs Murray at last year's Wimbledon?
He was extremely rigid, not to use some heavier terms, in his attitude towards Nadal for the longest time. When he finally came to, it was too late to really change anything.
Again, volley and slice are the shots that were easiest FOR ME to learn. I just rush the net and block everything, fairly successfully compensating for my weak groundies. I have tried (unsuccessfully) to improve them for so long that I developed an eye for some very fine nuances in ground strokes of these "grinders".
I am fully aware of the difference between my and Roger's level, but it's still the same game after all.

Nurse!
Yeah, cause, everyone who has a different take on things than you is either stupid or crazy, right?

samanosuke
04-03-2013, 10:57 PM
Once again, I see more variety in just Djok's forehand and backhand than in all of Roger's game put together.

they say that hope dies last but for your hope Dinosaurs look like teenagers

retister
04-03-2013, 11:02 PM
they say that hope dies last but for your hope Dinosaurs look like teenagers

Gonna have to translate this to Croatian to try and understand it ;)

samanosuke
04-03-2013, 11:05 PM
i can help you. no hope for you

retister
04-03-2013, 11:11 PM
i can help you. no hope for you
Hope for what? Can you at least try to make sense and write down a complete thought from time to time?

samanosuke
04-03-2013, 11:21 PM
:facepalm:

i give up

Deathless Mortal
04-03-2013, 11:29 PM
Gonna have to translate this to Croatian to try and understand it ;)

:haha:

chocochoco
04-04-2013, 12:09 AM
First of all, Nolandy sounds like a cartoon character rather than a rivalry :o
and Nolandy, I would rather watch paint dry than their backhand crosscourt shitfests :superlol:
Disgraceful era :facepalm:

NSMv1924
04-04-2013, 01:19 AM
First of all, Nolandy sounds like a cartoon character rather than a rivalry :o
and Nolandy, I would rather watch paint dry than their backhand crosscourt shitfests :superlol:
Disgraceful era :facepalm:

Another butthurt tard whining :lol: bring on NOLANDY!

nick the greek
04-04-2013, 01:27 AM
First of all, Nolandy sounds like a cartoon character rather than a rivalry :o
and Nolandy, I would rather watch paint dry than their backhand crosscourt shitfests :superlol:
Disgraceful era :facepalm:
Well, you can always watch weak era(2004-2007)matches.

Mr. Oracle
04-04-2013, 02:33 AM
Gonna have to translate this to Croatian to try and understand it ;)

If you don't mind me asking, you're a Serb or Croat living in Serbia?

juan27
04-04-2013, 04:36 AM
Well, you can always watch weak era(2004-2007)matches.

yeah.

wak era matches like a 35 years old man after many injurys and surgeris schoolling the nº1.....

or ferrer playing the miami final and with murray needed a choke from him.

Orka_n
04-04-2013, 07:58 AM
Yeah, cause, everyone who has a different take on things than you is either stupid or crazy, right?Just get real. You said "I'm probably biased" before and yes, you sure are right about that. And in small scale, that would be alright actually. But there is a level of delusion where you throw all logic out the window - and that shit was SdG stuff. Djokovic more variety than Federer, stupidest thing I've heard in a long while. Also don't blame samanosuke because you're not smart enough to understand what he is saying.

retister
04-04-2013, 08:35 AM
Just get real. You said "I'm probably biased" before and yes, you sure are right about that. And in small scale, that would be alright actually. But there is a level of delusion where you throw all logic out the window - and that shit was SdG stuff. Djokovic more variety than Federer, stupidest thing I've heard in a long while. Also don't blame samanosuke because you're not smart enough to understand what he is saying.
Don't blame me if you are not smart enough to understand what I'm saying.

freeandlonely
04-04-2013, 10:23 AM
Murray has a USO, nothing less, nothing more.
Win another then we can talk about him.
This is Djokovic Era.

heya
04-04-2013, 11:05 AM
Why? Murray sure did more than Roddick or Gaudio. Did anyone think the "New Balls" were more than transition top 10 chokers?
Even Tsonga & Berdych have done more than Johansson & Roddick.

masterclass
04-04-2013, 01:22 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

Alex999
04-04-2013, 01:37 PM
all I can say here it do not write off Fed or Nadal, especially Nadal.

tripwires
04-04-2013, 02:06 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

:worship:

rutinos harcos
04-04-2013, 02:43 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

Cool story.Tell it again.

Orka_n
04-04-2013, 03:17 PM
Don't blame me if you are not smart enough to understand what I'm saying.Now this kindergarden copycat shit? Just give it a rest, there's no way to save face now. :facepalm:

retister
04-04-2013, 03:28 PM
Now this kindergarden copycat shit? Just give it a rest, there's no way to save face now. :facepalm:
You know it's not gonna be that easy ;)
Btw, it's true, you have no idea what I'm talking about.

atennisfan
04-04-2013, 05:54 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

OMG this is just too real..

:worship:

GSMnadal
04-04-2013, 05:56 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

:yeah:

Where are the Fedtards laughing at Nadal's hair? Doesn't look too great, Rog :unsure:

fedalrock
04-04-2013, 05:59 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

:worship: :haha: :worship:

TennisPhan1
04-04-2013, 08:31 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

very very pro

Timot
04-04-2013, 09:10 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

Nice one. :)

MuzzahLovah
04-04-2013, 09:14 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


:confused:
Who are these guys?

TigerTim
04-04-2013, 09:19 PM
the one on the left looks like a certain farmyard animal, the other a banker maybe??

Mimi
04-05-2013, 11:41 AM
the one on the left looks like a certain farmyard animal, the other a banker maybe??

:haha:

Moozza
04-05-2013, 12:08 PM
Rafa: Hey Roger, I win Indian Wells after 7 months holiday, and a week later they say Fedal is over, no? Hahahahaha
Roger: I know, too funny, heh,heh. And look; in Miami my old friend Tommy schooled Novak, and Andy almost lost to the old Wall. Hahaha
Rafa: For me, it's unbelievable. Do you think they'll give me a chance at Roland Garros? Novak must be favorite, no?
Roger: Right Humbalito, King of Clay... And Wimbledon, maybe I get the chance to beat Nolandy like last year? Or is that too arrogant? heh,heh
Rafa: Roger, no, no, this is not arrogant. You are the best in history, no?
Roger: In history? I'm not so sure...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_l-PKRlTpBs4/THaNN2_zjqI/AAAAAAAACWA/rcL1IDsKOXE/s1600/027Z8kqfGwg8d.jpg


Respectfully,
masterclass

What have they got to do with Slamrayovic era?

ProdigyEng
04-05-2013, 06:52 PM
So according to masterclass Fedal era isn't over just because Nadal won Indian Wells recently?

What has Mr. Federer done this year apart from swear and allez his way to defeat against Murray in the AO Semi Final, get routined off Benneteau in Rotterdam, a tournament he'd supposedly win with ease, lose to Berdych in Dubai after having 5 match points, and being spanked by Rafito?

rutinos harcos
04-05-2013, 06:56 PM
So according to masterclass Fedal era isn't over just because Nadal won Indian Wells recently?

What has Mr. Federer done this year apart from swear and allez his way to defeat against Murray in the AO Semi Final, get routined off Benneteau in Rotterdam, a tournament he'd supposedly win with ease, lose to Berdych in Dubai after having 5 match points, and being spanked by Rafito?

Four months,zero titles for muger.

ProdigyEng
04-05-2013, 06:58 PM
Four months,zero titles for muger.

And counting.

Fedalovic
04-05-2013, 07:16 PM
Fedal will soon take over the Champions Tour, just watch it.

Marcoo
04-05-2013, 07:20 PM
I think it's not true. It's abvous Nadal was injured for more than six months and he's just returned. Give him some time and we'll talk. :)

Kyle_Johansen
04-06-2013, 12:14 AM
So according to masterclass Fedal era isn't over just because Nadal won Indian Wells recently?

What has Mr. Federer done this year apart from swear and allez his way to defeat against Murray in the AO Semi Final, get routined off Benneteau in Rotterdam, a tournament he'd supposedly win with ease, lose to Berdych in Dubai after having 5 match points, and being spanked by Rafito?

....

they are #3 and #5 in the world and still Slam contenders. It hasn't been a Fedal era since 2010, when it ended when Djokovic broke through.

ProdigyEng
04-06-2013, 12:15 AM
....

they are #3 and #5 in the world and still Slam contenders. It hasn't been a Fedal era since 2010, when it ended when Djokovic broke through.

......................

And they are seperated by a vulture :lol: