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Stuttgart to become grass court event in 2015; week following RG

Ash86
03-29-2013, 10:48 AM
Announcement by the ATP! :)

The MercedesCup in Stuttgart will become an ATP World Tour grass court tournament from 2015.

The tournament’s request to move to a grass court event taking place the week following Roland Garros in the lead up to Wimbledon beginning in 2015 was approved by the ATP Board of Directors at its recent meetings in Miami.

With Wimbledon taking place a week later in the calendar from 2015, a three-week gap will be incorporated in the ATP World Tour calendar in between Roland Garros and The Championships, meaning an additional week of tournaments in the lead up to Wimbledon.

Brad Drewett, ATP Executive Chairman and President, said: “The ATP is pleased to confirm that the request by the MercedesCup in Stuttgart to move to a grass court event in the week after Roland Garros from 2015 has been approved by the ATP Board of Directors. The MercedesCup in Stuttgart presented an extremely thorough application and we have full confidence that they will deliver a high-level ATP grass court event in the lead up to Wimbledon. As part of our process in setting the 2015 ATP World Tour calendar, we continue to review other options for the three-week period between Roland Garros and Wimbledon in 2015.”

Edwin Weindorfer, Tournament Director of the MercedesCup, said: “On behalf of the MercedesCup and its long tradition, I would like to thank the ATP and its Board of Directors for their trust and commitment to award Stuttgart with a grass court tournament starting in 2015. We have worked very hard on this and we are convinced that our investments in the new and permanent grass courts and infrastructure will be well rewarded. The new grass courts will be built in close cooperation with Wimbledon expertise and supervised by Wimbledon grass court experts. Thanks to the long-term support and commitment of Mercedes-Benz, the TC Weissenhof and our other sponsors and partners, this project will now become reality. Our ultimate goal is to provide the best players in the world perfect grass court playing conditions to take home the winner‘s Trophy of the MercedesCup ahead of The Championships at Wimbledon!”

Richard Lewis, Chief Executive of the All England Club, said: “The three-week gap will create a longer grass court season between the French Open and Wimbledon, allowing the players more time to recover from the demands of playing at Roland Garros and then to prepare for The Championships. We are delighted to welcome the MercedesCup as a very important first step in building this exciting new extension to the grass court game. It is a highly respected tournament with a fine history and with whom we have a great relationship, and we look forward to working closely with them as we develop the opportunities for top class grass court tennis.”

The MercedesCup will join the AEGON Championships at Queen’s Club, the Gerry Weber Open in Halle, the AEGON International in Eastbourne, the Topshelf Open in ‘s-Hertogenbosch and the Hall of Fame Tennis Championships in Newport as ATP World Tour grass court tournaments.

The first edition of the tournament in Stuttgart was held in 1898, with Mercedes-Benz assuming the role of title sponsor from 1979.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/03/13/Stuttgart-Switches-To-Grass-In-2015.aspx

Dead Net Cord
03-29-2013, 10:49 AM
Breaking news :eek::eek:

avb
03-29-2013, 11:12 AM
Great news!

WinterIsComing
03-29-2013, 11:17 AM
Good news indeed :)

Will EternHaas extend his carreer so that he can play this one?:)

Yves.
03-29-2013, 11:26 AM
Dream come true! Now add another week :D

PorkBarrel
03-29-2013, 11:28 AM
Oooh. This explains Murray's interview after the Cilic win advocating a longer grass season. Perhaps Andy knew something we didn't?

Hopefully this paves the way for a grass masters.

Henry Chinaski
03-29-2013, 11:29 AM
would make sense for the second of the 3 weeks between the majors to hold a grass 1000 now but obviously this won't happen for years and years to come for several reasons.

STUHL
03-29-2013, 11:29 AM
Now make Halle an ATP 500 the week after and we are good! :)

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 11:44 AM
More grass events! Great news for grass court players!

It does seem like Halle will move a week after since having two events in Germany on the same week makes zero sense. Though I do suspect that Newport may be moved prior to Wimbledon so they don't need to add anymore events and can split Halle and Queens freely into two different weeks providing better draws.

Maybe...

Stuttgart / London Queens
Halle / Newport
Eastbourne / 's-Hertogenbosch

Ash86
03-29-2013, 11:50 AM
Can't see either Halle or Queens giving up fight to have the middle week. The top players will only play one grass warm up and they'll want it to the middle week - one week rest after RG and one week rest before Wimbledon. By both Queens and Halle being then you'll get a split of top guys like Murray, Nadal, Novak (though he hasn't played a warm up the last few years) at the 2 events. If Halle was the middle week and Queens the week preceding Wimbledon, for example, think Queens would suffer a lot.

They do need to make Halle and Queens 500 events though. Probably not big enough to be Masters, but surely the 500 requirements could be met? Think 3 weeks is enough really as a month break from RG to Wimbledon would feel like too big a change from what it's been in the past and the whole "channel slam" concept. There's a month off after Wimby anyway.

STUHL
03-29-2013, 11:57 AM
Halle could host a Masters. A great stadium Court and Court 1 is also big enough. I think is has a seating of 5000 people!

Chirag
03-29-2013, 12:01 PM
great news :worship: Hope more tournaments also get grass courts

Dark Knight
03-29-2013, 12:03 PM
Good for the game.

dinkulpus
03-29-2013, 12:05 PM
I hope it will be in that way


1. RG
2. ATP Stutgart + ATP Quenns
3. ATP 500 Halle + new ATP250
4. Eastbourne + ATP Holland
5. Wimbledon
6. Newport

TennisOnWood
03-29-2013, 12:06 PM
More grass events! Great news for grass court players!

It does seem like Halle will move a week after since having two events in Germany on the same week makes zero sense. Though I do suspect that Newport may be moved prior to Wimbledon so they don't need to add anymore events and can split Halle and Queens freely into two different weeks providing better draws.

Maybe...

Stuttgart / London Queens
Halle / Newport
Eastbourne / 's-Hertogenbosch

Newport is special tournament and it must stay alone after Wimbledon

Brit Tennis Fan
03-29-2013, 12:07 PM
I agree that there is a good chance that Newport could get moved to pre-Wimbledon as one of the consequences of moving Wimbledon back a week is that there will be one week less between Wimbledon and the US Open. I would say the most likely scenario is

Stattgart / Newport
Queens / Halle - Upgrade both to ATP 500
Eastbourne / Hertogenbosch

dinkulpus
03-29-2013, 12:09 PM
Moving Newport before Wimbledon will be wrong decision, no one want to go to USA then to back to Europe, this are awful jet-lag + money for traveling

nole_no1
03-29-2013, 12:12 PM
Changing a tournament from clay to grass... they should do it more often

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 12:14 PM
Newport is special tournament and it must stay alone after Wimbledon

With Wimbledon moving a week back, it will cut right into the beginning of the U.S. hard court season. I am not too sure if any players would want to play this event after Wimbledon and right before resumption of the hard courts?

Didn't Hamburg say they were interested in changing to Grass? How is that idea going about? Having a Red Clay 500 right after a Grass Slam probably won't work well either. Also, what will happen to Bastad? This event is on Red Clay and is crushing right into the new Wimbledon schedule.

Another idea would be turn Grass into 6-week events:

Stuttgart / Nottingham
London Queens / Halle
Eastbourne / 's-Hertogenbosch
Wimbledon
Newport / Hamburg

Upgrade Nottingham that's in the same week, further downgrade the historic Hamburg event and grant the 500 status to Queens. Halle probably won't be affected much due to smaller draw and less tax. Most top players are there for the warm up anyways...

Yves.
03-29-2013, 12:14 PM
Anyway, whether Halle and the Queens are a Masters 1000, an ATP500 or ATP250 tournament, what's important for them imo is their position in the calendar, and probably they will be in the middle week between Roland-Garros and Wimbledon, which will guarantee the quality of their draw even more than it is now.

The second important question for them is be whether they will stay in competition in the same week or not.

Anyway, Stuttgart should be able to welcome a good draw as well, and it's also a good news for Halle, as players may like staying in Germany after Stuttgart.

Yes, fatigue after Roland Garros is no longer an issue!

born_on_clay
03-29-2013, 12:15 PM
great news :yeah:

Pratik
03-29-2013, 12:21 PM
Great news.
Half way there. Now make Halle into a Master's/500

Chase Visa
03-29-2013, 12:24 PM
Great news.

fabolous
03-29-2013, 12:25 PM
great to see the application come through. it will be interesting to see how they will transform the whole courts to grass.

apparently the grass courts will be permanent throughout the year, hopefully they will allow normal people to play on it.

http://www.mercedescup.de/cms/images/mc/rasen-button.png

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 12:25 PM
I think Hamburg had said that they had studied the project and given up, which is probably why Stuttgart was the one who made it.

I think Bastad and Hamburg will stay as they are.

If Newport isn't moving forward then we will have four events right after Wimbledon and one of them is a 500 event, don't think that will work though! ...or Bogota is going to February with the South American swing?

Newport (Grass) / Bastad (Clay) / Hamburg (Clay) / Bogota (Hard)

If ATP desires to make Halle and Queen's both 500 to maintain balance they can also strip Washington's 500 status (though I doubt either events want to be upgraded). I foresee that event being downgraded sooner or later with no new Americans mounting up in the Top 10. Plus it's at a really awkward position leading right before two back-to-back Masters.

dinkulpus
03-29-2013, 12:29 PM
If Newport isn't moving forward then we will have four events right after Wimbledon and one of them is a 500 event, don't think that will work though! ...or Bogota is going to February with the South American swing?

Newport (Grass) / Bastad (Clay) / Hamburg (Clay) / Bogota (Hard)

If ATP desires to make Halle and Queen's both 500 to maintain balance they can also strip Washington's 500 status (though I doubt either events want to be upgraded). I foresee that event being downgraded sooner or later with no new Americans mounting up in the Top 10. Plus it's at a really awkward position leading right before two back-to-back Masters.

They can make it three

July 3rd week : Newport/Bastad/Bogota
July 4rd week : Hamburg/Atlanta
August 1st week : Gstaad/Washington

STUHL
03-29-2013, 12:29 PM
Tommy Haas responds.

"Germany gets with the MercedesCup in Stuttgart another grass court tournament! That´s great news! It is my personal aim to play the MercedesCup on grass in 2 years! What do you think? 2 more years would be great, wouldn´t it?"

2 more years. Yes! :)

pierricbross
03-29-2013, 12:32 PM
Being the week after RG won't be that bad, considering all the guys who lose before the 4th round will have a week off before the start of the tournament, but it's still not as advantageous as being the week after and week before both slams. For this reason I doubt Halle or Queens will move.

Having Stuttgurt > Halle > Eastbourne is fantastic for guys who have to play qualifiers. They will be able to use trains rather than plane and it won't matter if they lose early as much because their hotel room can be used for all 3 tournaments.

Jverweij
03-29-2013, 12:33 PM
and so it begins.... :):wavey::wavey:

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 12:40 PM
Having Stuttgurt > Halle > Eastbourne is fantastic for guys who have to play qualifiers. They will be able to use trains rather than plane and it won't matter if they lose early as much because their hotel room can be used for all 3 tournaments.

Most of them can't play Eastbourne because they would be in qualifications at Wimbledon. It does relieve some heavy taxes the British charges since they won't have to play any Grass events outside of Wimbledon. Events a week before Wimbledon will be for those somewhat top average players to vulture some points, so I think the weakest of them all would still be the week right after Roland Garros since it will become three weeks worth of Grass before Wimbledon. The current situation is different with just two, so...

I do think that Bastad's and Hamburg's status are well protected as they are popular tournaments.

I wonder more about the American tournaments, esp. Newport, and with Bogota's competition. There may be even more changes among American tournaments than there have been in the recent years.

Doesn't ATP also limits the number of 500 events per year? If Hamburg's 500 status is well-protected, we will only be able to strip a 500 status off Washington, and that's not enough to grant both Halle and Queen's 500 status (that's if they want it).

They can make it three

July 3rd week : Newport/Bastad/Bogota
July 4rd week : Hamburg/Atlanta
August 1st week : Gstaad/Washington

There's also Umag and Kiztbuhel though... so three three-week events? Just like weak February :eek:

The draws will look dreadful :lol:

TigerTim
03-29-2013, 12:52 PM
Genuinely excellent news

dinkulpus
03-29-2013, 12:55 PM
There's also Umag and Kiztbuhel though... so three three-week events? Just like weak February :eek:

The draws will look dreadful :lol:

Some of them can be move during clay season, for example in week Estoril - Munich

VamosRafaNadal
03-29-2013, 01:03 PM
Tommy Haas responds.

"Germany gets with the MercedesCup in Stuttgart another grass court tournament! That´s great news! It is my personal aim to play the MercedesCup on grass in 2 years! What do you think? 2 more years would be great, wouldn´t it?"

2 more years. Yes! :)

Two good news today: Stuttgart as a grass court tournament and Haas aiming to play on it in 2015 :)

Henry Chinaski
03-29-2013, 01:05 PM
there's room for another grass event to take place in the extra week now. who will fill the gap?

you can't move Newport for simple geographic reasons.no one is going to fly to the USA after Roland Garros for one week just to play a MM tournament.

August
03-29-2013, 01:11 PM
Why would they need it actually ? They have all of the top-guys anyway (except Djokovic last year and probably this year but if there are 3 weeks between RG and Wimbledon, he will come) :shrug:

250 status is enough for e.g. Halle as players need warm-up for Wimbledon and even big names come to play, even for 250 points. So halle often has the field of a good 500 event. 500 status wouldn't make much of a difference, you still wouldn't get all the big names. But I think the Tour would need a Masters on grass. That would be important to give grass specialists another chance to get big points besides Wimbledon.

Hopefully Germany would get soon a great (grass) player so that they'd get a Masters back. Then have a M1000 at Halle or Hamburg on grass.

August
03-29-2013, 01:12 PM
there's room for another grass event to take place in the extra week now. who will fill the gap?

you can't move Newport for simple geographic reasons.no one is going to fly to the USA after Roland Garros for one week just to play a MM tournament.

Wasn't Gstaad interested in a switch to grass. High-altitude grass would be so :hearts:

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 01:29 PM
Hopefully Germany would get soon a great (grass) player so that they'd get a Masters back. Then have a M1000 at Halle or Hamburg on grass.

If they are sticking with 8 masters, I don't know how Germany can get one back. We thought Paris might get an axe but they have returned the one week break for WTF so it seems like it's going to stay.

Moving Gstaad along with Stuttgart might work :)

ProdigyEng
03-29-2013, 01:30 PM
Make Halle a 500, us Brits have the big one, the slam, so I'm fine with Germany having a 500 and Queens remaining a 250.

BroTree123
03-29-2013, 01:39 PM
Will it become a 1000?

August
03-29-2013, 01:42 PM
If they are sticking with 8 masters, I don't know how Germany can get one back. We thought Paris might get an axe but they have returned the one week break for WTF so it seems like it's going to stay.

Moving Gstaad along with Stuttgart might work :)

Once Nadal retires, Spain doesn't need a M1000. Then move MC to Madrid slot and give Madrid M1000 back to Germany, to be hold on grass.

Topspindoctor
03-29-2013, 01:59 PM
Once Nadal retires, Spain doesn't need a M1000. Then move MC to Madrid slot and give Madrid M1000 back to Germany, to be hold on grass.

How so? Nadal is usually a mug in Madrid and only won it once on clay.


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Newcomer
03-29-2013, 01:59 PM
hamburg is next.

CooCooCachoo
03-29-2013, 02:19 PM
Excellent choice :yeah: We can never have too much grass :)

TigerTim
03-29-2013, 03:10 PM
How so? Nadal is usually a mug in Madrid and only won it once on clay.


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because Nadal has raised tennis profile in Spain, because Nadal brings in crowds hoping to see him win, he also got to the final iirc in 09 and 11 so he hardly has a bad record.

Looner
03-29-2013, 03:20 PM
Awesome news!!!!

GSMnadal
03-29-2013, 03:22 PM
remember the 'What would please every tennis fan?' thread?

This comes pretty damn close.

Johnny Groove
03-29-2013, 03:23 PM
What great news.

Finally the ATP does something right.

The Prince
03-29-2013, 03:29 PM
Gstaad wanted to become a grass event, right?

Thunderfish8
03-29-2013, 03:42 PM
This is definitely a good sign. The ATP needs to start turning all those useless summer European clay tournaments into grass tournaments. Clay tournaments have no place after Wimbledon. Maybe in the not so distant future they could convert some of the following:
Bastad
Gstaad
Umag
Kitzbuhel
and maybe even Hamburg into grass tournaments and then push Wimbledon back another 3 weeks or so.

It really is pointless to have these staggered clay tournaments so long after clay season has ended.
Perfect opportunity to extend the grass season since these are all European tournaments so travelling wouldn't be an incredibly large hassle.

Johnny Groove
03-29-2013, 04:01 PM
This is definitely a good sign. The ATP needs to start turning all those useless summer European clay tournaments into grass tournaments. Clay tournaments have no place after Wimbledon. Maybe in the not so distant future they could convert some of the following:
Bastad
Gstaad
Umag
Kitzbuhel
and maybe even Hamburg into grass tournaments and then push Wimbledon back another 3 weeks or so.

It really is pointless to have these staggered clay tournaments so long after clay season has ended.
Perfect opportunity to extend the grass season since these are all European tournaments so travelling wouldn't be an incredibly large hassle.

If anything, they ought to move RG forward a few weeks for an extended grass season. Close IW and Miami to 1 week.

WinterIsComing
03-29-2013, 04:21 PM
If anything, they ought to move RG forward a few weeks for an extended grass season. Close IW and Miami to 1 week.

This.

I really don't like this 10-days format, in which the first 2 days look like some over-hyped qualifying event (not even broadcasted) and the last week-end is much too long.
They would still need to maintain a week between the 2 though, because of the huge distance and the jet lag. It would be an opportunity to put some mug east-coast green clay event in between (Atlanta, Charleston)... and to switch Miami to green clay as evoked in another thread. Of course this would mean removing one of the european clay M1000, French Open could be played in the first half of May and we would have a proper grass season... with a M1000 of course :bounce:

Only problem : european clay season would start end of march, which looks a bit risky weather-wise, these days :devil:

Dead Net Cord
03-29-2013, 04:47 PM
Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters
Just got the official word: Newport will continue to be played the week after Wimbledon in 2015, so won't be a Wimby warm-up

Official reasons Newport not being warmup: only week available right after RG, kids just out of school,early 4 play on Newports type of grass

Snowwy
03-29-2013, 04:49 PM
Thats great

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 04:57 PM
If anything, they ought to move RG forward a few weeks for an extended grass season. Close IW and Miami to 1 week.

I doubt they have the power to do so...

Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters
Just got the official word: Newport will continue to be played the week after Wimbledon in 2015, so won't be a Wimby warm-up

Official reasons Newport not being warmup: only week available right after RG, kids just out of school,early 4 play on Newports type of grass

That means they will fill in another tournament for Grass between Roland Garros and Wimbledon.

nolesfan2011
03-29-2013, 05:07 PM
good news, more grass is a good thing

fedalrock
03-29-2013, 05:09 PM
hey people...first post here
On topic...this is great news, grass really needs a few more tournaments considering this is where tennis began.

Lugburz
03-29-2013, 05:17 PM
Wonderful news!!!

Certinfy
03-29-2013, 05:18 PM
you can't move Newport for simple geographic reasons.no one is going to fly to the USA after Roland Garros for one week just to play a MM tournament.
Vultures of the highest order will.

Mr.Michael
03-29-2013, 05:49 PM
I don't think there will be more grass tournaments. But it's gonna be intresting to see who'll play in Stuttgart. Queens and Halle will obviously have the strongest fields.

After RG:
Stuttgart/S'Hertogenbosch
Queens/Halle
Eastbourne

The next step should be to bring back Forest Hills and Kooyong. Three grass Slams.

ciprianned
03-29-2013, 06:01 PM
nice ;)

Mr.Michael
03-29-2013, 06:19 PM
did you have any info about s'Hertogenbosch moving earlier ?

No, just a thought/hunch. Either that or it stays with Eastbourne and Stuttgart is the only one after RG. I'd be surprised to see Nottingham upgraded or something similar. Would love it, but don't think it will happen.

They would have had one more in Gstaad, but they wanted only one tournament on grass?

JurajCrane
03-29-2013, 06:52 PM
Stuttgart / Gstaad or something like Liverpool or any English tournament (so it can be GB streak)
Halle / Queens Club
Rosmalen / Eastbourne / Wimbledon Q
Wimbledon
Newport

I would love to see Halle being upgraded along with Queens Club, because it would make no sense to have 3 weeks of 250s back-to-back.

Lugburz
03-29-2013, 06:56 PM
Make Halle Masters and we're all good now \o/ and an extra grass week, ty.

Raiden
03-29-2013, 06:59 PM
Once Nadal retires, Spain doesn't need a M1000. Then move MC to Madrid slot and give Madrid M1000 back to Germany, to be hold on grass.Why wait for his retirement? I say do it now!

After all it should be clear in hindsight that Madrid Open will never be Nadal's favorite event despite the 99.9% crowd support now that we know how this "altitude masters" has turned out to be (a failure from the point of it being intended as an honorary "Nadal Open").

Therefore I say return the M1000 slot back to Germany. I'm sure Nadal will not object (publicly he'd give a pro Spain lip service, but privately he'd be ecstatic if Madrid is removed).

rocketassist
03-29-2013, 07:07 PM
Stuttgart / Gstaad or something like Liverpool or any English tournament (so it can be GB streak)
Halle / Queens Club
Rosmalen / Eastbourne / Wimbledon Q
Wimbledon
Newport

I would love to see Halle being upgraded along with Queens Club, because it would make no sense to have 3 weeks of 250s back-to-back.

YES!

Lugburz
03-29-2013, 07:07 PM
Not even a title like: 'Stuttgart to become grass court event in 2015; week following RG', can't go without Nadal Fed debate.
Pathetic.

ProdigyEng
03-29-2013, 07:35 PM
Stuttgart / Gstaad or something like Liverpool or any English tournament (so it can be GB streak)
Halle / Queens Club
Rosmalen / Eastbourne / Wimbledon Q
Wimbledon
Newport

I would love to see Halle being upgraded along with Queens Club, because it would make no sense to have 3 weeks of 250s back-to-back.
Manchester not Liverpool

coolfish1103
03-29-2013, 07:43 PM
They can make an UK Grass Series to cope with the enormous tax players dislike.

Manchester
Queens 500
Eastbourne
Wimbledon

Kyle_Johansen
03-29-2013, 08:05 PM
Good news.

jrm
03-29-2013, 10:51 PM
God helps us all, greasy Haas promised he would be there, what aged 36, 37???

Brick Top
03-29-2013, 10:53 PM
Stupid decision we already have to much grass tournaments.

Noleta
03-29-2013, 10:55 PM
Good,we need more grass tournaments.

StevoTG
03-29-2013, 11:28 PM
Fantastic news! A touch sad when I think of the good grass court players of recent years who never got to play a fair amount of tournaments on the surface. But, hey, better late than never. Onward and upwards toward a 500 and/or Masters event on the grass :)

rocketassist
03-30-2013, 06:41 AM
They can make an UK Grass Series to cope with the enormous tax players dislike.

Manchester
Queens 500
Eastbourne
Wimbledon

the mancs don't deserve it

dencod16
03-30-2013, 09:24 AM
I think there is no issue with moving Newport after French Open, since most players that plays there are American's and most of them lose early at RG.

coolboarder
03-31-2013, 06:58 AM
If it were up to me, I would extend the grass court schedule to 7 weeks, culminate with the 1000 Grass masters.

RG
First week of June Stuttgard/one new grass event ATP 250
Second week of June Halle/Queens ATP 500
third week of June Eastbourne/'s-Hertogenbosch ATP 250
last week of June Wimbledon Wk 1
first week of July Wimbledon Wk 2
second week of July Newport/one new grass event ATP 250
third week of July One new Grass masters ATP 1000

I am thinking of awarding one grass court ATP 1000 somewhere in the U.S. and eliminate the Paris Masters.

pierricbross
03-31-2013, 07:28 AM
Paris is a fantastic tournament and France deserves to have a masters series. Just make Madrid a grass tournament, it's the most expendable tournament.

America has 3 masters tournaments (Cincinatti, IW/Miami), that's a lot for one country.

ProdigyEng
03-31-2013, 08:35 AM
the mancs don't deserve it

They do more than the scousers :yeah:

coolfish1103
03-31-2013, 09:27 AM
If it were up to me, I would extend the grass court schedule to 7 weeks, culminate with the 1000 Grass masters.

RG
First week of June Stuttgard/one new grass event ATP 250
Second week of June Halle/Queens ATP 500
third week of June Eastbourne/'s-Hertogenbosch ATP 250
last week of June Wimbledon Wk 1
first week of July Wimbledon Wk 2
second week of July Newport/one new grass event ATP 250
third week of July One new Grass masters ATP 1000

I am thinking of awarding one grass court ATP 1000 somewhere in the U.S. and eliminate the Paris Masters.

They will have to cut IW or Miami into one week to have that fit in.

Also having a Master of the same surface two weeks after a Slam isn't gonna be fun.

Ben D.
03-31-2013, 10:25 AM
:yeah: great news! at last, a real grass season. I hope they will turn Queens into a MS 1000 or at least ATP 500.
what about (250)Stuttgart/Halle->*Queens*MS*->(250)Den Bosh/Eastbourne->Wimbly->(250)Newport

dinkulpus
03-31-2013, 10:34 AM
Quenns can't be a Masters :sad:

Tag
03-31-2013, 03:22 PM
lol, why would queens want to be a 500?

they get a decent draw and crowds as a 250

no real to upgrade, just more expense for them

however, this is good news

the more grass tournaments, the better

p.s: hopefully halle rejects the swiss' when he tries to buy the tournament/demand appearance fees